Jim Cornette on Turning Magnum T.A. Heel
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My favourite wrassler as a child. Loved his fire and intensity... He was like a white meat babyface version of Jake Roberts on the mic too!
facts....
“Dusty. I have been living in your shadow for way too long ,now, you no good dirty dawg. I am fed up following you around like a puppy dawg. I’m gonna get you Big Dust.. and when I get you, you’ll know after all the years I watched your back and all you wanted to do was steal my spotlight, your gonna know that Magnum T.A. is a stooge for no one. “ There is your heel turn.
If you want a logical heel turn, it's really easy. Give Magnum a run with the NWA title and then have him drop it back to Ric Flair. Then in 1988 Sting catches fire, culminating with him getting a title shot at 88 Clash. After the 45 minute draw, Sting gets attacked by the Horsemen so he enlists Dusty and Magnum to watch his back in a rematch with Flair on Saturday Night or the second Clash. Thats when Magnum blasts Dusty and Sting and helps Flair retain. Then Magnum reveals hes jealous of Sting getting the matches he thinks he deserves. Then you have Magnum vs Dusty and then Luger for a while while they groom Sting chasing Flair and have the Steamboat trilogy in tbe process. After the trilogy is over, Sting gets the belt and FINALLY Magnum gets his title shot.
That was well thought out.
KHayes666 great idea and angle for a Magnum T.A heel turn.
That would be fantastic
Damn!!! We need a time machine and make this happen. Can you imagine had this been able to happen. Wow. What if
That was the plan for Magnum to regain the title from Nikita at Starrcade '86 and drop the title in '87 to BuddyLandell, but he was on his drug binge, which took him out the best the could muster up was Jimmy Garvin. Flair was supposed to drop the title at some point during the Great American Bash. Flair needed the rest.
Watching Magnum TA bodyslam Abdullah the butcher was what got me hooked on wrestling in 1984 or 85 man I miss Mid Atlantic wrestling less bs talking and allot more wrestling
I saw that clip where he slammed abdullah and i was like DAMN!!!! burned the house down!! I remember when he had that wreck and everyone at school was like what the fuck happened!!!!!!!!
He could have been Stone Cold before Stone Cold
U took the words right out of my mouth. The original Stone Cold. I only would have turned Magnum heel once he started to bald.
In a way he was stone cold in turns of striking administration when magnum slapped Bob Geisel when he said “ Reprimand this “ (slap)
Or even Goldberg .
Bad News Brown was already Stone Cold before Stone Cold
Watching Magnum evolve from Southwest to Florida to MId-South and finally to Mid-Atlantic/Crockett was great to watch.
It was historic.
Young Magnum T.A & Jake Roberts look like they could be brothers.
Yes, they do
I don’t think so
@@davestuddaman8127
You must be blind
In an alternate universe, Vince McMahon brings in Magnum as Jake's cousin to feud with the Macho Man and Bret Hart...........we can all dream, can't we???
Oh man, if Magnum turned heel, especially on Dusty, the heat he got would have burned the building down! Think Hulk Hogan's NWO heel turn only turned up to 11.
Truck Shackley that would have ben epic
More than 11! Think about this....that was before kayfabe. People still 'believed' it was real (to some degree). People really felt like they were personally betrayed.
Yes! And if he joined the horsemen. You could have carried that feud for years.
THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN EPIC!
Truck Shackley Dusty turning heel on him would have made more sense... and the heat would have been molten.
Imagine Magnum in the Four Horsemen rather than Luger...
Peter Isnardi Nah, more so after Arn and Tully leave. Imagine Flair, Magnum and The Windham's? Yeah Kendall was nothing special but he and Barry could have been the muscle like Arn and Ole with Magnum in the Tully role.
No, he could have fit in as US Champions damn that would have been historic.
He wouldn't have fit like barry windham didnt
Tag Team Dream Match: Magnum T.A. & "Dr. Death" Steve Williams
Vs.
Barry Windham & "Mr. Wonderful" Paul Orndorff.
Sting had the career and spot that Magnum TA should've had.
laenav same with Lex Luger. So Sting + Lex Luger = Magnum TA.
and TA got windhams spot
No, after Magnum, Barry Windham was tapped by Dusty, but he was a no-show, Lex Lugar could never get over with the fans as heel or face,, so when JCP bought UWF, the developed Sting as a singles competitor.
Glad sting got it then
@@Mr.Majestic77 man bye with that bs
Magnum was excellent. He could done just about anything.
That's it. Steve Austin pulled it off. He was never a heel with his 3:16. He just never looked happy. Magnum never looked happy That's enough to turn heel. Austin did it well. Magnum could have pulled it off.
@southerncajuncharm Austin got insane heat as a heel. Watch the Canadian Stampede PPV, the man was almost about to start a riot. He was even able to get good heat during his 2001 run, even with the crowd still loving him.
@southerncajuncharm I agree with him that the heel run in 2001 was a business mistake, but he was getting good heat during it regardless. Plenty of boos and "Austin sucks" chants after the Invasion PPV and his feud with Benoit & Jericho before that.
Canadian Stampede heat was mainly due to his feud with the Hart Foundation, but he played the heel role well during that entire angle so it worked with the crowd. Same thing during the street fight with Bret, he was 100% heel during that entire segment. Survivor Series was a different situation because he came back from a devastating neck injury which made him the sympathetic babyface so he was gonna get cheered anyways.
disagree....Magnum TA was different from Stone cold Steve Austin.
@southerncajuncharm I never said Stone Cold was a heel, he was as a Hollywood Blonde with Pillman. He never looked happy going back to USWA, so he could be a heel. Stone Cold was a "Gray", like the Road Warriors taking on heels and babyfaces and on any given night they would cheeer or boo the Road Warriors. The main difference is they set a program with Vince to set-up the character, he wasn't a gimmick, he was a character
@@delbertprince5302 No, you are wrong.Magnum's character had a darkside he developed it back during the SWCW days and improved on it in Florida and perfected it with Wrestler #2 in Mid-South. Stone Cold developed in the last interview after intntionally losing to get rid of the Million Dollare Man. That's how stone Cold hit the stage. Magnum's interviews developed over the years to show an intensity that was believable that he had a darker side. Stone Cold was just " I am whipping ass on GP" he didn't need a reason, but T/A would need a reason to unleash the darker side like Tully Blanchard, or Ernie Ladd they could bring it out.
That Buzz Sawyer story about him ripping off folks is legendary. He ripped off the Undertaker & several other guys when they were getting ready to get started. From Taker himself,he said he went to Buzz's house to get his money back & Buzz was gone,so he took his 2 Rotweiler's on principle.
Craig Smith II and he still whines about it 30 years later
Greedy D
Taker let that go. He doesn't talk about it much now
Greedy D shhhhhh taker has never done anything wrong he's the leader of the locker room
A man who steals Rottweiler Dogs is nobody to jack with at all!🐶😂B.W.
@@greedyd5524 Buzz is in hell.Drug head pos
Magnum T.A. always my favorite wrestler
Mine too!
Both Magnum TA (Terry Allen) and the late Kerry Von Erich would have been great heels. Imagine both turing heel (a slow heel turn) in a tag team match against Ricky Steamboat & Dustin Rhodes in a early-mid 1990's WCW-WCCW inter promotional partnership.
Kerry was a heel in Florida with David. No his heel turn would have come a whole different way.It would be him getting fe up playing the face and taking attacks by all the other heels, so they would have him match dirt with dirt confusing the fans until Dusty would have tried to reel him in and that would have started the dark run. They would never have let him turn on any partner in the ring that's not his style especially after Mr. II did it to him back at Mid-South. No, it would be a lot more subtle because he was a complex character.
He was following in the Roadwarrior model . Serious ass kicker that never backs down . He wasn't a kissing babies type face .
Haha!! "So did you guys know Magnum was Dusty's pet project and there were all these plans?"
Jim: "Nah....Well, we knew he was from Florida."
Magnum wouldve been fucking scary if he turned heel. He's got that cold, severe look about him. Shame his career was cut short
THAT WAS THE DARK-SIDE CHARACTER HE DEVELOPED IN MID-SOUTH
What about a Kerry Von Erich heel turn on his brother Kevin, then Kerry teaming with a recently turned heel in Magnum TA (turning on Dusty Rhodes) along with an NWA/JCP/UWF, WCCW & AWA merger during the 1980s???
I truly believe that it was headed in that direction had it not been for the accident. Windham's heel turn would've been Magnum.
Now you see how good promoters think, Dusty and Ole, Gary, and Thunderbolt were good. Magnum would have had to turn Dusty wouldn't let anybody steal his thunder as American Dream, so to develop T/A further he would have turned him "Gray" like Flair.
He was Stone Cold years before Stone Cold was Stone Cold. The original face "mean guy".
Had he turned heel could have played a good 96 stone cold but stone cold already became stone cold now so stone cold is the one stone cold and no other stone colds Can be stone cold because stone cold is stone cold. Sucks Magnums career was cut short though
If he would went to the wwf in the 90's his name would of been,
Selleck Reynolds moustache salesman
ANDNO DOUBT WEARING HAWAIIAN-PRINT SHIRTS AND CABANA SHORTS NO LESS.
Amazes me after Magnum got hurt they never used Scott Hall in this role. They were dead ringers for each other in the 80s. Think of the tag team they would have made. Or the feud they could of had. Wow
That's a good point. Hall was working for Verne at that point, which one would think would be much worse than working for Crockett.
Perhaps but how many in the crowd would buy it? It might have had a reverse effect and pissed many off. Not that it's Hall's fault but you know what I mean- the crowd might be like "WE WANT OUR MAGNUM! NOT THIS IMPOSTER!". Crowds and audiences are tricky.
If they used Hall, they would probably have been better off shaving Hall's stache and building as different from Magnum as possible.
That interesting because I recall the AWA referring to Hall as Magnum Hall around 1986
@sean rankin. You are correct. When Scott Hall left the Central States area for the AWA he was billed as “Magnum” Scott Hall. That lasted briefly then he had his run with Curt Henning as AWA Tag Champs; which was underrated as they were an excellent team. But the AWA did use that Magnum gimmick. I think the difference between TA and Scott Hall was that TA was more polished and established. And TA was also a Southern boy so that worked well down in the southern promotions. Hall would’ve face too much flax if they brought him in and put that gimmick on him; regardless of trying to rep,ace TA (ala Ultimate Warrior-Renegade).
Bunkhouse hall was a Florida guy
I liked his theme music - the Freebirds used it. "Bad street, Magnum TA..."
Any idea of Magnum TA having had a long career is intriguing. Guy was young enough to have lasted until the Invasion angle. Could have been the WCW hero they desperately needed in the NWO era.
No lol
The NWO would have mid card him
@@sweetpetergeda I don't know how much thought you put into this response, but I want to elaborate a bit. Sting was the guy that they put in the Magnum TA spot. And while I wouldn't blame you for double checking, they're both the same age. In summary, in any alternate timeline where Magnum TA wrestles until he retires of old age, he basically replaces Sting in some capacity, if not entirely. Unless he did something weird like work for Vince and get buried with a lame gimmick, there's no reason to assume that he would have lost all of his popularity before 1996. That early Hogan WCW era might have been awkward, but it was anyways.
I love a story a podcaster shared about going to a Crockett house show in 85. It was Harley Race vs Magnum, when Magnum just came in to the territory. But he said that he created a sign that said, "Fagnum TA". And they had a spot fighting on the outside then they got over to where he was sitting ringside. Harley grabs Magnum in to a headlock and points to this guys' sign and yells "Read the sign, punk!" Then punches him right in the fucking nose, breaking it 😂😂😂
His belly to belly suplex was the best.
I agree with Cornette; I have always thought that Dutch Mantel's face turn in Memphis was the best I've ever seen.
The mustache-happy grin…he and Jake Roberts looked very similar!
it would've been a hundred times more heat than Barry Windham turning heel and joining the 4 horsemen
2:02: How to turn Magnum heel? Give him the Wahoo treatment. Have Magnum think (or have someone plant in his ear, like Tully to Wahoo) someone (Dusty) is holding him back.
Magnum Would have been a great heel, but he was right in the middle of a long face term. He was drawing huge numbers In the best of 7 series against Nikita.
Nikita turns face 2 or 3 years later than he did. Magnum doesn't trust him and gets pissed and feels betrayed when Dusty, Warriors accept Nikita into the fold. Print money.
Wow, one of life's wrestling questions I had never contemplated, good one! I think MTA would have been an EXCELLENT heel! As a matter of fact, he would have been an awesome Horseman down the road. The turn would have to stem from "trust" and "student-teacher" issues. Go back & look at Mr. Wrestling 2 turning on him, an element of that. There would have to have been a series of "misunderstandings" in which it seemed Dusty & 2-3 other top baby faces were "supposed to be there" for him but never were. After a major push for the world title, someone "not being there" for him at Starcade would not only cost him the world title but a major injury after an ambush. After months of being sidelined a return was built up and lead to a situation with Dusty needing a major save, out runs MTA for the save and of nowhere = a standing belly-to-belly suplex on Dusty. Historic turn. Imagine the smirks alone that mustache would have provided.
^ this would be the most logical way of turning Magnum imho
U could have had magnum turn on sting in 90 and join up with ric and arn and Barry. Then sting has to go through magnum to get to ric and the belt.
Imagine this angle:
Kerry Von Erich signs with Jim Crockett Promotions instead of the WWF. Kerry becomes the mystery third partner alongside Magnum TA and Dusty Rhodes as they battle Tully Blanchard, Arn Anderson & Ole Anderson. Then a heel turn comes out of nowhere as both Kerry & Magnum turn on Dusty Rhodes as they join the Horsemen.
Not bad at all. Especially Kerry. He would have had promotional rivalries with Crockett due to World Class leaving NWA. And practically no emotional capital invested there. So it'd be a case of biting the hand... As to Magnum the heartbreak of true treachery plus thinking himself second fiddle to Big Dust. Ingenious and throw in that Kerry himself actually was a heel for Ric Flair in Florida in 1982 (and the tormented history of Flair with The Von Erichs). Writes itself.B.W.
Berry Waller your right. It would have been the greatest heel turns in Pro Wrestling.
As an old school trucker I can listen to Jim cornette all day while on the road
I got his autograph a few years back and plan to frame it an put it down at my bar at my housewith an old match card poster from an event down in Florida in the late 80s or early 90s from a Territory or Indy promotionm down there. I think Bob Holly and Afa and Sika were on the card so I assume it had to be one with a decent amount of money.
Anyway when I got his autograph he didn't seem to be doing too well. He really struggled to write it. Maybe he has good days and bad days but it was sad to see.
Magnum Ole Arn & Tully instead of Flair in the 🐎 men
Wow, look at his forehead! Damn... I thought most cutting was small cuts, head wounds bleed well anyway, looks like he went from one end to the other.
this is exactly why I no longer watch wrestling but still listen to guys like Cornette...He is 100% right about a potential heel turn for TA...it would have taken a long, long build over months and needed to be valid...Wrestling back then would have taken the time...even the months...to do it. Now? It's instant gratification...they'd never take the time to do it and TELL the story....they'd give it a month then put it on a PPV, get the money off of it then just drop it.
Well, Undertaker as a face, never smilied, too. :)
Ad a huge fan of Magnum back in the day, if he would have turned heel it would have fell flat, kind of like the Road Warriors turned heel in 1988. the fans would have probably cheered him more imo.
Frank Noel: Depends on the angle. Just turning heel for the sake of it would fall flat. Now if he joined the Horsemen.....THAT might sell. Show Magnum ridin around with the women, the money, him and the Horsemen being all buddy/buddy....It'd be the whole "YOU SOLD OUT YOU SON OF B****" thing.
A more interesting question is: Who do they build as a new top face? Dusty will be getting well into retirement view then. Magnum didn't have his accident so there's a chance Sting and Luger wouldn't have gotten built up the way they did.
Same with Demolition.....they tried to make the crowds boo them....but no. Same for Hitman's 1997 heel turn....outside the us (though I cheered for him, and I'm in the US) he was cheered.
Trim the 'Stache & Give Him a Manager/Valet
Magnum vs Dusty would've been like Orndorff turn on Hogan or Barry Windham's heel turn joining the horsemen.
Magnum is from Chesapeake, VA. and it was his mom at every match at the Norfolk Scope. I sat beside her and she got me his autograph when I was 16.
Turn indicators are also the measure I use to determine one's standing in the world.
My idea: Week after week we get Magnum and Dusty getting jumped by the Horseman because Dusty has so much heat with them and Dusty's big mouth. Everytime the Horseman come out though it's 4 on 2 and Dusty's getting incapacitated pretty quick and being held by Arn while Tully's beating him but Magnum's really getting the shit beat out of him and every week it's worse. Maybe even the last time, the one that makes Magnum finally make up his mind, you got Sam Houston come out and walk beat up Dusty to the back, leaving Magnum to get a 4-1 beat down from the Horseman. Then the next week one final episode of Dusty getting the Horseman riled, he's with Magnum in the ring, they show clips from the previous weeks of beat downs, Dusty keeps cutting a promo, the Horseman come out. Magnum bails to leave Dusty alone to get the shit beat out of him. David Crocket on the mic starts calling Magnum a coward, of course. Sam Houston issues a challenge to Magnum for Saturday Night's TV show. That match happens and Sam gets a lot of offense but by the end of it it's a squash. Etc. Etc.
MAGNUM WOULD HAVE NEVER TURNE ON DUSTY. IT WOULD ONLY BE AFTER HE HAD TO DEFEND THE WORLD TITLE. THE CHAMPIONSHIP WOULD HAVE BEEN THE CATALYST FOR A HEEL OR GRAY TURN. NOTHING ELSE WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE TO US.
Imagine Magnum joining the Horsemen in 87 instead of Luger ……. Interesting
I would have still had Luger be a heel and have Nikita turn babyface, but lots of options there
3:24 i saw that same angle done in Puerto Rico done a couple of times the best one was the first time they did it i think it was when Savio Vega turn baby face i think it was Carlos Colon getting the shit kick out of him by the heels and everyone that came out of the baby faces locker room got beat up then Savio came out and started to beat the heels and ran them out after that they did the same angle a couple of times but it wasn't as good as the first time i think Dutch was the one that booked that angle in Puerto Rico
As a child growing up in Brooklyn,I remembered watching Magnum TA in the NWA. If Magnum TA did not get hurt,he would have dominated professional wrestling in the 1980s and possibly in the 1990s pending on his opportunities of leaving NWA.
Hogan was flash-in-a-pan, Vince banked on getting the kids hooked, so they could browbeat the parents into buying his tickets and crap. NWA was based on characters not gimmick Hogan was a gimmick and Flair and Martel (AWA) were characters. Vince wasn't making any money until the AWA started to fold in '87. If it had not been for JCP F'ing up WWF wouldn't be around today in it's position. Now they have to fend off the AEW doing the same to them.
@@terryg995 maybe…. You have to remember WWE became mainstream because of Hulk Hogan and other wrestlers.
@@terryg995 Vince did a great job in promoting the wrestling industry especially with kids because I was attracted to WWF because of wrestlers such as Hulk Hogan, Junk Yard Dog,Wrestlemania 1 and Wrestlemania 2.As long WWE exist,no promotion is knocking off WWE. Eric Bishoff tried to,but it did not happen.
@@delbertprince5302 That's what I said, it was a sham gimmick that appealed to kids who wore out parents for tickets and dolls. those same kids are parents today and want nothing to do with the WWE.
I can't get past how much him and Jake the snake resemble each other. It's uncanny. One of the great tragedies of wrestling.... The what ifs we'll always have. I'd love to see dark side of the ring cover magnum. If for nothing else to give people a look at his work that wouldn't have seen it in the territory dsys, and to show the aftermath for him from a career standpoint and the fallout. Magnum is a true hall of famer, from character to conduct he's a class act.
Didn’t he return following his accident as an angry and bitter heel who accused the fans of “abandoning” him? Or do I have him confused with someone else? Numerous people have gotten kayfabe and in some cases legitimately injured as faces and returned as bitter heels who blamed the fans for what happened to them and for not being there for them so it’s an easy to get two people mixed up with one another looking back on it years later.
he didnt come back heel
YOU ARE CONFUSED.
It might not be precisely true in a literal sense, but I like to think if Magnum's car accident never happened, Lex Lugar's career wouldn't have happened.
Piper A R or the career of Sting. So basically Lex Luger + Sting + Barry Windham = Magnum TA.
Mr. M A J E S T I C XIII . Blackstruggle77 sting was going to be over and no matter what and would have had a similar career. He was going to be good no matter what. Luger on the other hand I can see being stuck in mid card lol. I’d imagine there would have been some sting and magnum tag matches and even a few face vs face classic title matches.
Guys that look like Luger always get a chance or 100
NO, LUGAR WOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN MADE HAD IT NOT BEEN FOR WINDHAM'S NO-SHOW.THE FANS DIDN'T LIKE OR DISLIKE LUGAR ENOUGH FOR HIM TO BE A STAR OUTSIDE OF FLORIDA. HE WAS NOT A GOOD FACE AND HE NEVER DREW ENOUGH HEAT AS A HEEL
TA would have been a life long face. Like Steamboat. Unless he went to WWE, then who knows?
Greg Stephens WWF would have buried him. He wasnt an Arhold Musclehogger type nor was he 6'8"
Greg Stephens he'd be even less likely to turn heel in WWE. They aren't really good at doing heel turns. The face turns are their specialty
NO, THE CHAMPIONSHIP WOULD HAVE CHANGED THAT. THE NWA HAD NO LONG-LASTING BABYFACES AS CHAMPION. HE EITHER HAD TO BE A HEEL OR GRAY.
Magnum would have been much better as a heel with a mouthpiece manager.
Cornette's Wrestling commentary is beautiful, I wish one of the streaming services would do a film on 70's & early 80's Wrestling.
Hangman Adam Page is the new Magnum
Magnum would've had to go to WWF and debut as a heel..
I'M GLAD THIS NEVER HAPPENED. I WAS A BIG MAGNUM T.A. FAN AS A KID AND HAVING HIM TURN HEEL OR WORST YET JOIN THE FOUR HORSEMEN, I WOULD HAVE TOTALLY HATED THAT ANGLE. THAT MIGHT HAVE CAUSED ME TO STOP WATCHING WRESTLING ABOUT FIVE YEARS EARLIER THAN I DID. TOO BAD HE HAD HIS CAR ACCIDENT. IT WAS A REAL SHAME, BECAUSE HE WAS IN THE PRIME OF HIS CAREER AND THAT RIVALY HE HAD GOING WITH NIKITA KOLOFF WAS ONCE THE BEST RUNS THAT THE OLD N.W.A. HAD GOING AT THAT TIME .IT WAS BASICALLY THE COLD WAR BEING SETTLED IN A WRESTLING RING. AH THE 1980'S. THE GLORY DAYS OF WRESTLING. I MISS THOSE DAYS.
13 years from today. Wrestling will change. Think about that in terms of minutes
If Magnum had not gotten hurt, and after he had the belt put on him (and then dropped it to somebody like Steamboat creating bad guy Magnum) I could see Magnum in Ole's spot and we probably would not have seen Barry Windham in the Horsemen, Luger would have still got tossed out and Magnum would gotten tremendous heat as a Horseman feuding with Dusty, Sting, Windham, the Warriors, and Luger. Plus you could tell that Flair liked Magnum and he would have fit in well with Arn, Tully, and J.J.
That would have great
It really is a sad story. What happened with him it just makes me wonder had he not had the accident would Sting have been as big as he was would he have went to New York a lot earlier and replaced Hogan there? And got to work programs with Heart HBK and Taker
I could see TA turning heel in WWF during the Attitude era
Magnum TA fucking over like a M-Fer
Top 5 dream match Magnum vs Seth Rollins
Dusty was jealous of Flair, Luger, Sting, Rock N Roll Express and The Road Warriors we all know that but I guarantee he was of Magnum too
Magnum said in one shoot interview that if he had become too big a star, Dusty would have cut his legs from under him. This coming from Dusty's best friend, Cody's godfather. Pretty sad.
Look at magnums forehead in that pic going for some color LOl
He would have been an awesome heel. Magnum could have done anything they asked him to.
I started to watch wrestling in 1988 or 1989...! So i haven't seen any match of Magnum T.A.! I don't know why but i was always interested in him...! Maybe because i like the show "Magnum P.I." with Tom Selleck! And Magnum T.A. looked a ilttle bit like Selleck! But he seemed to be very popular back then...! Does anybody know what T.A. stands for...???
Thor Boysen , TA stands for Terry Allen, which was his real name. The “Magnum” part of his wrestling name was due to the strong resemblance to Tom Selleck, as you referenced.
Thank you!!! :)
they loved him too much did u see the cage match when he defeated Nikita Koloff
He wouldn't have fit during the Monday night war no way
No way he couldn't be a heel. He'd have been a great heel. It would have been a shock to fans.
Him as a heel wow,it would have to be him getting skipped for a title shot by dusty and go nuts and turn on dusty
Hmm.... Magnum as the Cooperate champion for Vince McMahon???? Magnum in the nWo? Had he got to stay around with us long enough, these could have been very possible. He could have been the original Triple H. Could he have pulled off being a heel? Of course. Joining the Horsemen turning against Dusty back in the 80's is all you had to do to become a super heel. That or beat up Ricky Morton. Had he went to WWE, just turn on Hogan, but I think Magnum would have went over huge on Hogan. He was a tough guy that women loved and the kids loved. He's actually a very nice guy and wish he never had that horrible accident. He is one of the few that I feel could have changed the course of wrestling had the accident never happened.
He would have made a good Horsemen
PROBABLY, BUT I BELIEVER DUSTY WOULD HAVE MADE HIM A LONER.
Best name ever .
Remember when he first started in San Antone.
magnum could have been a bigger star in wwf/wwe if it weren't for his car accident you know vince would have waved money in face and signed him up but it wasn't meant to be
they would have hated Magnum
I wish Tully blanchard turned face
Wish he won world championship
I didn’t think TA was that good granted he was young but David von Erich was ten times better
similiar skills. neither was great promo
I could not see him as a heel...no.
Reminds me of Scott Steiner. Bill Watts wanted "Big Poppa Pump" to turn heel in 1992 because he was such a prick, like TA, he was a "natural heel" and who knows how much bigger his career would have been if he turned heel then! But no--he wouldn't turn on his brother.
I really wish the Steiners had signed with All Japan at the time instead of the WWF.
@@meekrob they were NJPW
I'm surprised that Jim never became a Hollywood writer. He really understands the protagonist and antagonist. The best villains are the ones that think they are the heroes in their own minds
Jim Cornette has a great mind for the business BUT he's so far behind the times it's insane. I've seen other shoots of his where he still thinks of how it used to be and doesn't seem to know how to adapt to the current way of how things are done.
The current way of how things are done sucks donkey balls.
never understood why everyone is so high on Magnum. Not hating on him I'm just not a big fan
Well, he did have the fluffiest mullet ever. :)
meekrob that mullet is Ricky Mortonesque that's for sure LOL
Because he was damn good where it mattered... in the ring. Saw him live multiple times, always had some of the best matches no matter who he was up against.
I think he would of made a good heel and have him feud with Dusty lol