Head to Head Off-Road Test || Wrangler vs 4-Runner
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Today we bring you guys a head-to-head offroad battle between the Jeep Wrangler and the Toyota 4-Runner. We're breaking down what vehicle is better and what type of offroading is best for each one of these vehicles. Let us know which vehicle you would choose, and why in the comments! Want us to test another set of vehicles head to head? Let us know which ones you would like to see.
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The 4Runner should get a point for every 100 thousand miles it can go too. I’ve had my 4Runner since 2016 and it has 435,000 miles on it. My wife had a jeep, it broke down so many times she sold it and got an Acura. 4Runner wins all day long
Holy smokes that is wild! You have me thinking about scooping one now 👀
What year is your 4runner? 2016?
2016
Yeah you drive a lot!
It’s a beast though. I was lucky enough to get a 14 with less than 100k miles.
Now it definitely has more than 100k but I love it!!
@@TrailBuilt Buy one before the iconic 4.0L is gone. Great engine. 5 spd auto not bad either. Once the 4.0L is gone, so will reliability, 4runner coming out with 4 cyl turbo next. No reliability. I have been trying to buy a 2022 4runner TRD Pro for the past 5 months with no luck. Still working at it now. With a msrp dealer.
I went back and forth on Wrangler or 4Runner for months before purchasing. I went with the 4Runner for two main reasons: 1) As much as I like to think I spend a ton of time off-road, it accounts for maybe 1% of my driving miles. The 4Runner is just miles better than the Wrangler on pavement - especially if you have KDSS. 2) Reliability. No vehicle is perfect, but Toyota reliability is head, shoulders and torso above anything made by Fiat-Chrysler (or Stellantis as I think they are now called).
Do I sometimes wish I had a solid front axle? Absolutely. Do I wish I could fit 35" tires from the factory without having to drop a few grand in modifications to make it happen? You betcha. Do I regret going with the 4Runner instead of the Wrangler? Not a chance.
My conundrum. I bought a TRD Pro, I love it and couldn't be happier.
I totally see your point. I am a wrangler owner and have a question. Do you daily drive your Toyota? While i have a wrangler, it is not my daily driver. Just wondering if that was part of your reasoning. Thanks.
@@AZ-JKUR-HR my 4Runner is my daily. It is also the family road trip car. Almost 100k miles in the last 4 years.
@@Chad_H yep. Thought so. Great overall vehical! And i see your reasoning. Like i said. I wouldn't want to daily my wrangler. See you out there!
Yes you are like me unlike the runner because I drive tons on road and pro a once a year I go off-road because I dont have time and also I dont do any like extreme rock crawler trails where only super modified jeeps can go so for me the runner
I had this mental exercise for years. Owned 2 Jeep Wranglers and 2 4Runners. For me it came down to space and reliability when you are miles into the desert with no life in sight. I went with the TRDPro.
If you want something youre not scared if getting stranded in the desert get something pre computer my man. Or concert to no computer as a pure wheeling rig. The xj i have will walk all
Over both of these vehicles. Air lockers. Alternator relocation so i can do water crossing in a safer manner. Plus that 4.0 from 96-99 is indestructible i took out all the digital compass crap. Hooked up analogue guages got rid of all the digital crap in the dash. Run it off propane and you dont have to worry about electric fuel pump. And the one ton axles under it rolling 37s with only 4 inches of lift is just bananas on wet rock. Super grippy. Thinking about tubbing it out in the rear unibody and running rear steer but thats a lot of fab and hydraulic work that i have no clue how to do lol.
And before you mention the unibody being the weak link its riddled with frame rail stiffeners.
@@KarstRats Well aren't you special, so happy for you
@@TerraFirmaX at least my shit will last lol.
Let's not forget, when it comes to wheeling, it's the nut behind the wheel that matters most. A 4Runner can do a hell of a lot with the right person behind the wheel.
Agreed, before I learned how to use all the functions of my 2016 4Runner I got stuck in 16in of snow.
@@opinionatedviewer7730 sr5 or TRD?
@@opinionatedviewer7730 all one has to know is where the locker is and low range, the different modes are just a glorified brake actuated traction control.
My stock 90 4runner has really showed this to me. I've done some pretty tough obstacles with it. As long as you're willing to push it to the limit
I wish I could bring you all there's alot that can be done with a 4x4 with no diff lock at all here in the NewMexico sand dunes as long as I air down my ATs I just get around fine don't see alot of mud most days
For me the Jeep is great 30 days of the year where comfort is not an issue, but for the rest of the year I would much more enjoy riding in the 4 Runner, so, 4 Runner gets my vote.
For me , it's 4runner all the way! More comfortable, and stealth camping/overlanding! It's like a mini camper that can go just about anywhere!
I had both of these vehicles and both have positives. I would say the 4runner is a better on road drive but it is a pig on gas. I have a rubicon now and it is obviously more superior offroad out of the box and burns almost half the gas.
@@alexartemenko556 I have a Nissan X-trail for a budget overlander, and all it takes in modifications to make it a capable off-roader is a 2 inch strut mount and bigger tires, it is a light vehicle with a capable engine and great suspension with tons of space in the back for almost anything, and it still gets 9L/100km
Exactly! - I love my 4runner so much - built a sleeping platform in the back lol
Im an offroading enthusiast so that means im not delusional enough to think a bloated 4runner can go just about anywhere
2004 limited 4-Runner with 300k, doesn't burn a drop of oil and still have so much confidence in it I let my wife take the kids across the mountains with it. Jeep does have a lot of cool factor & capability but I'd bet there are very few if any (especially now that fiat jacked chrysler up even more) that have 300k on the factory drive train without a concern of their reliability!
It’s interesting to watch 4WD comparisons from both the UK & USA; in the USA they compare their local product with Toyotas, in the UK they compare their local products against Toyotas and nine times out of ten the local product wins - the one common theme is that both regional testing teams mostly put their products up against Toyota products which says a lot about how good Toyota 4WDs are.
So sick of toy vs. Jp. Fuck these opinion vids.
Do you have another renown brand other than toyota to compare with? If not there ia no other option. If japanese tries their offroad comparison they will definitely compare with jeep too. But it does not mean jeep is the most powerful vehicles. Here in asia we compare every off-road vehicles with jeep and we regard jeep as the king of offroading.
@@totoitekelcha7628 - while here in Australia you will see more VW 4WD in the outback than Jeeps
That’s because whenever England compares itself to another, England declares itself King.
Even top gear famously had to admit the Toyota is king…hope your Land Rover starts mate!
I have owned three 4 Runners over the past 19 years and all three have been modded the same for overlanding.The 4 Runner will go anywhere a Jeep will go,within reason,but with far better reliability.I have over a million miles in these trucks with absolutely no failures or problems.Ever.I used to have a Jeep back in college,and I was constantly fixing it.Never will I forget being out on the trails in Maine and the alternator failed.Reliability may not seem as important but it absolutely is.
A 4Runner will not go anywhere a Jeep will. That’s a ridiculous statement.
@@southbaygladiator7748 says a die hard Jeeper.I would expect nothing less than blind lemming like followers of your brand.In reality,Toyotas go everywhere Jeeps go and do it for years longer than you will without failed parts and breakdowns.
@@southbaygladiator7748 You clearly need glasses son because you will find 4runners right at the top of the world MOAB utah next to jeeps. Look up 4runner overlandimg if you even know how to manage to type it in on youtube. 😂
@@southbaygladiator7748 your jeep will not pass 200k it will break before then
@@southbaygladiator7748 any toyota vehicle is stronger and gets more miles than your road fiat
When I traded in my Jeep I traded it for a 4Runner. That being said, My Jeep wasn't a wrangler. I had Jeep's version of a Cadillac, The Grand Cherokee. I feel the Grand Cherokee would go nearly anywhere my 4Runner will go. Mods for a Grand Cherokee isn't as available or easy to find as a 4Runner or Wrangler. What made my deciding factor to trade the Jeep was, I couldn't keep it out of the shop. It was always breaking down. I realized as much time it spent in the shop was equivalent to a whole month out of a year. Or another way to see it is I made one payment and didn't have it. Time to go. Reliability was my reason.
I don’t know which GC you had but I had a 2016 with the hemi and off road package. Closest you could get to a trail hawk before it was released. It’s off road ability was a joke. Doesn’t matter how you feel. I traded for a 4runner TRD. The GC was so bad, it’s an embarrassment to the Jeep brand. I also lost track of the number of times it was in the shop. The 4Runner is much easier to keep track of because it’s 0.
I went from a 4Runner to a Grand Cherokee Trailhawk. The Trailhawk is very comparable to the 4Runner offroad. And for me, my 4Runner had quite a few problems while i owned it. One of the most annoying issues are failing front brake calipers. Pistons would seize every other year like clockwork, even if i purchased replacements directly from Toyota. But the biggest issue was frame rot. After a few years, my frame was very rusty way beyond surface rust. Eventually, it became a big issue, despite the fact that i powerwashed the entire undercarriage after every winter. On the other hand, my Jeep has had zero issues and no rust. I'll probably never go back to 4Runner again. The 5th gen is a joke, still using the ancient, inefficient 5-speed automatic transmission. The body is from 2009. Really Toyota?
@@charlescole7532 My Grand Cherokee was a 2001 model. It had the Quadratrac II system with a 4.7L V8. I feel it could about climb a tree. Or at least it feel it was on par with the 4R off road capabilities. Only thing I'd give to eh GC is it had a full axle front end. The 4R has independent front. I got rid of my old GC because it was in the shop as much as my drive way. So far, my 4R has been in the shop 0 times. I do miss the subtle gurgle sound of the V8 and the power. The 4R has power but you have to get into the gas peddle a bit more.
@@Japplesnap My Grand Cherokee was a 2001 model with quadratrac II and a 4.7L V8. I traded it for the 4R because the GC was in the shop as much as my driveway. So far, The 4R has had 0 repairs. I did take it to the dealer for a frame evaluation. It had surface rust only in the welds. Of course the dealer said there was nothing wrong. So, I treated it myself with POR15 products.
I feel my old GC could nearly climb a tree. I feel the same with the 4R. Only thing I'd give to the GC for off-road is a full front axle where 4R has independent front. BTW, I love the look of the 4R. You called it outdated. That also describes me so its perfect. LOL
I own a 2023 4Runner base model (SR5) and it is a great vehicle. Although the Jeep has good clearance, I haven’t had any issues with scraping or clearance with any trails here in Utah and I’m running it with stock tires and no lift kit.
Jeeps have the highest rate of roll over deaths. They are too TOP heavy.
@@dragonsyph2557really dummy? You cant think of any other reason as to why more die in jeeps rollovers?? Maybe it's cause theyre used for rock crawling more than any other brand? Maybe cause their roof can be removed exposing the occupants? Maybe jeeps are the primary offroad brand in the states? The statement that theyre more top heavy is ridiculous too since they have either fiberglass or cloth top and heavy frame underneath. You're Just spouting nonsense
As a former toyota service manager I can tell you that there are very few master techs who have had to go inside the 4 runners 4.0 that motor is a noisy dinosaur but it is as close to bullet proof as it gets
Thank you for comparing non rubicon and non TRD vehicles. Many people watching don’t have those. It’s nice to see what other trim or packages can do for once lol. If I had the money, yes, I would have gone for one of those. However, thanks for vids like this, I know what I have and what it can do. 😊
As an old man I liked Fords growing up. Got mocked due to "Found on the roadside dead. Fix and repair daily." Now I'm hearing "Just empty every pocket" for Jeeps. I've researched deeply what I wanted last year for overlanding, longevity, reliability, etc. and got a 4Runner Off Road premium before the chip shortage. I need a daily driver also. I've always loved the way Jeeps look, and still do, but need reliability over the years. This likely is my last vehicle. I modified it and love it. To each its own.
My Wranglers had few problems. All older pre-Fiat so I don’t have experience with the new ones. Most of the breakage was self inflicted due to off road mods and big tires. Our Grand Cherokee was a lemon.
wrangler rubicon 4xe for me. i drive hundreds of miles commuting for free. and when i need it, the gas motor is always there. love the 4xe rubi
Jeep, reliable? Let's not get carried away lol.
175k on my 08 with no issues
128K on my '15 JKU never any issues
I’ve had 5 since 1996 (2 TJ’s, 2 JK’s, and now a JLUR) and I’ve never had any problems other than the dumb stuff I’ve done to them myself…
@@Wrangzilla I think the point is the Toyota guys are still on their same vehicle from 1996
@@teddonley9594 That’s an exception, not the rule. 250k on a 4Runner is expected.
I have a 2018 4runner and wouldn't change a thing, 0 issues and excellent on and off road, it travels very well
Traded in a 2021 JLURD for a 2022 4R TRD Pro a few weeks ago and couldn’t be happier. I don’t rock crawl or do heavy off roading so decided to go with a 4 R due to its comfort, no regrets.
For many years, I've been wishing that Toyota would make the 4Runner into a full convertible! That would be absolutely awesome!!!
If you told me that both vehicles would last 300000 miles with the same repair costs, I go with the jeep. Since that isn't the case, I'd go with the 4runner.
Have 4runner currently. Had a 94 Suzuki Samurai years ago. That little Japanese jeep could go where the big 4x4s couldn't go. If only Suzuki brought back the Samurai back to the states!
my buddy had one two, it would go anywhere. He added a chain saw and it was an animal. no other truck could follow.
Owned a 2018 4Dr JKU Willys Wheeler Lifted 2.5" with 285/70R17 Geolandar M/T. It was a very capable rig took it to multiple trails even received a few Jeep Trail Badges. Now I own a 2022 4Runner TRD Off-Road. It was Cheaper Out the door than my JKU. Came with a Rear Locker and all the bells and whistles you need to Off-Road as well as has a ton more cargo space for the family than the Jeep did. I live in TX and I took the roof off once in 4 years of ownership just to take a picture because "Cool Factor". Same with the doors. It was too much of a PITA. Giving points for taking the roof off and doors was kinda funny when based off of overall "Overlanding" capabilities and not cosmetic "Cool Factor" items like roof and doors its 4Runner all day long in my Book! Now if the comparison was for "Rock Crawling" Jeep All Day!
The 4Runner should have gotten two points for the breathtakingly better reliability than the Jeep, making the comparison a tie. I went with a Wrangler over a 4Runner a few years ago, and the Wrangler is the least reliable vehicle I have ever owned, by a significant margin. I also own another Toyota that has never given me any trouble.
If u do any real offroading you'd know a solid axle is way more reliable than an IFS lmao
@@mealticketscrub2561 True, but a dead engine with a connecting rod through the bottom of the block is WAY worse than a broken suspension. #AskMeHowIKnow. #JeepQuality
@@mealticketscrub2561 reliable no, more capable yes.
@@MKAK47 have fun breaking those skinny tie rods
@@mealticketscrub2561 That's reserved for the jeeps I have to constantly help sleeve on the side of the trail. Nice try!
Love your videos and non biasness. The front lockers and larger tires and ground clearance on the jeep is a plus off road but other than that, TOYOTA all day everyday. Going off road a few times a year doesn't make up for the whole year of reliability in the Toyota. 👍👍
Why? Do Jeeps break down all the time.
Weird, I own 3 Wranglers and have only broken parts off roading and it was a cheap easy fix, one has over 200k.
As far as MODS there is no limit with Jeeps.
@@1969darr Jeeps are great vehicles. Some of the best looking as well.
Problem is Toyotas aren’t reliable off road. Daily driving yes, off road no. When crawling remote places, repairability is as, or more important than anything else. IFS can’t be fixed on the trail when you pop that cv axle, (unless you carry a spare axle around) and if you wheel it, you are going to break it. Ever loose your abs module in a 4 runner? Hard crawling tends to bash them into a fritz. And when they go, so does your four wheel drive, hi and low, with no way to get it back. It’s a bad time if your 13,000 feet up. There’s very little you can’t fix on a Jeep while in the dirt. And short of hitting the main computer with a hammer, nothing is going to kill your 4 wheel drive and leave you stranded on a mountain. 4 runner is a good daily driver for the pavement. But nothing stays in tact if you wheel remote places. I give Toyota the ON PAVEMENT reliably point. JEEP wins off road reliability all day.
@@1969darr not the modern ones...... Last real and reliable jeeps were the TJ Wrangler and xj Cherokee...........
@@turtledunkknucklebaby8089 I'm still running stock factory cv axle in my 1987 toyota 4 runner.. thats toyota reliable parts, Mopar parts can't compete with toyota parts for toughness and longevity.
I make 1400 mile round trips to south Fla a couple of times a year, so I went with a 4Runner TRD. The stock vehicle is a no brainer for the hwy and not bad for casual off road.
I’ve had both and love them both. But for a family, camping, and hunting rig 4 runner all day. Off road the jeep takes win.
I prefer the 4Runner for road comfort, better resale price, and trunk space.
Better resale?
@@kg0311 yes u know.....when u sell a car after owning it a while.....resale. And Toyota’s have the highest overall resale value. Wranglers do seem to hold value ish. Not because they are good cars....they aren’t. They are cool to the hipsters who enjoy fixing them all the time.
Depends where you live. Wranglers have the highest resale value of any car period up where i live.
@@jimmylarge1148 Wrangler has amazing resale value. Better than even the Tacoma and much better than a 4Runner.
@@Japplesnap not at all there’s a 2017 4runner off-road going for 51k rn and it’s 5 years old
The Wrangler is a specialty vehicle not only is an amazing Offroad it is also a convertible it’s one of the only cars that you can actually take the doors and the roof off it does a lot of things that make it completely unique the forerunner is a much more practical and probably more comfortable vehicle but if you’re looking for something a little bit more special you have to go with the wrangler. Especially now the JLU and the JL Drive and ride play ears better than previous models. I’ve owned many trucks and always thought Jeeps were pieces of shit I admit I was wrong it’s definitely the best performing vehicle off-road I have ever owned and I have owned many trucks.
Well, I've been a Toyota guy my entire life. From their small commuter cars all the way up to their full size trucks/SUVs. What did I buy when I got into off-roading? A 2021 Jeep Wrangler JLU. I'm not Jeep guy, I'm an off-road guy, and Jeep just does it better.
mmm.. what about a diesel land cruiser? no jeep will ever beat that
@@xcrazyghostx9566 unfortunately, we don't have those where I live.
you did the right thing TOYOTA are just boring to drive
I like the Toyota but I like keeping all 4 wheels on the ground better
Here's my take. If anyone would like to read, I grew up in a jeep household. Lifted jeeps rock crawling side by sides wheelers. Grew up out in the woods. My mom had a 07 jeep and it drove like shit stock took forever to heat up. Always had seal issues, transmission was replaced 2 times from the dealership when it went out. Had nothing but issues with suspension bolts loosening up after lift kit was installed. Had to do a bolt check every other day. Even took it to professionals to make sure nothing was wrong. Tires bumpers exc. Was built to wheel and it did so well when it wasn't being worked on. My first 1995 4runner was bought from a crackhead neighbor who needed money and I needed a vehicle. I absolutely did not want it but I needed a vehicle and it was cheap. Absolutely beat the piss out of it for about a year till some seals started going like oil cooler seals but I had 4 bald tires on it and I mean bald. A couple were showing wire they were that bald (I was 17 and broke) well I went smoking with some buddy's and we went to my buddy's property and it had no business climbing a hill as steep as it did with bald tires. Winding through trees in mirror to mirror fit while having to pin it to make it up a slick hill. From that day on I realized truly how capable a stock 4runner was even with bald tires. I now own 2 of them my daily driver is a 1995 Toyota 4runner 5 speed has the 3.0l 3vze motor and is built for overloading as I fish and travel to fish as the guy said in the video it is a mini rv. I have 8'6" musky rods that are 1 piece so it's extremely hard to travel and fish with them well the 4runner allows me to fit the rod on the ceiling while keeping ALL of my valuable gear inside my vehicle locked while I sleep on the rooftop tent. Having been around a jeep growing up my whole life being able to remove the top isn't that great. Honestly. I'm not against jeep but I know from winter driving conditions I'll drive. 4runner over a jeep in the winter all day long.
Just bought a 4runner and love the quality of the vehicle.. I'd think it has many advantages over a jeep
Rich man
Both rad rigs,.... i love my 5th gen runner, but would love it, with a oem front locker. Both rigs, are wicked capable, and wicked fun to get away/out with. Happy (and safe)
adventures out there all......
These new Jeeps “JL AND JT” are amazing! The on road comfort and off-road capabilities are unbelievable!
Made by fiat
@@Jon-uj2uw Yes Dune…Whoever makes it I agree the are incredible. 💪🏻
@@arizonadirt3622 Yes sir!
@@Jon-uj2uw Parent company doesnt make anything...dolt...same workers do over last 30 years...dolt
@@gnd111 jeeps are for yuppies and mid life crisis men who really know nothing about automobiles, like you perhaps, the wrangler frames are thin abd flimsy like your brain
Good to see the AMP Terrain Attack ATA in action! Sweet vid and nice comparison Trailbuilt!
Guys you’re really not comparing apples to apples. I’ve owned both. Comfort on the road is owned by the 4Runner. Off road capability is owned by the Ruby. My Rubicon is the most capable off road street legal vehicle I’ve ever owned ….. but has very few manners on the road. Wind blows it all over. It wanders like a blind nomad. Then there are the electrical “issues” that seem to haunt all Chrysler products of late. Poor radio perception that actually varies from vehicle to vehicle…. The way that Bluetooth disconnects randomly with no rhyme or reason. The 4Runner could never compete with my jeeps locking differentials. But the comfort and QUIET of the 4Runner compared to the Ruby has the 4Runner the winner by far on the road…..and off. Just two very different vehicles with very different functions. Love them both but for very different reasons.
That Bluetooth disconnecting would drive me wild! I definitely see what you mean though!
You do realize you can put aftermarket lockers in the 4runner and it will be the same performance or better right?
I have a 4Runner with falcon suspension going on this week! So best of both worlds!?! I think so. 🤙
Love both vehicles. For really serious off roading and aftermarket Jeep all the way. For everyday, road trips, and moderate off roading 4Runner.
We have a TRD Pro just that it suited us better.
Also think the Jeep has a more classic look
4Runner = reliability, space and comfort when going to Starbucks as well as light to medium offroading.
Wrangler = Cant beat a dual solid axle set up and tech for offroading. Don't even try to argue this when it comes to hard/extreme rock crawling. Convertible....
None of the offroading in this video is close to pushing either of these vehicles to their true potential. An outback or practically any vehicle could do this with decent ground clearance.
I once saw a Toyota in Moab. It was a Uber but still saw one
@@teddonley9594 best comment on TH-cam lmao
@@tonysanchez120 I prefer keeping all 4 wheels on the ground but thanks for the advice lol
@@tonysanchez120 You do realize the Toyota off road vehicles aren't ranked in the top of reliable vehicles for the last several years don't you ? They are even rated below the Ford Ranger according to consumer reports. BTW that's reported by the consumer, you know like people that own Tacos. That said I do like the Toyota Tacoma for light off roading but for my purposes the limitations of IFS don't make sense. Maybe you should consider a Bronco it is after all a better 4runner
@@tonysanchez120 anything is better than a garbage toyota keep crying 0oor Toiletota baby
Just completed some desert off-roading in a bone stock 2021 trd offroad and there wasn’t really anything on even some gnarled BLM lands in UT that it couldn’t handle. Plus my normie GF and her dog were perfectly comfortable. Plus 3,000 on the street for the road trip …. I’m 1000% happy with my choice to go 4Runner.
4runner is a great truck overall for anything you want to do. One thing will get 4runner close off roader to jeep is to having a front locker from the factory.
I love the open air atmosphere. Simply being able to take off my freedom tops and remove my doors does it for me. It’s a jeep thing! #JeepLife #JeepWave
#firstgen4runner
That's like saying a pool adds value to a home.
I went from a JKU to a 4Runner and don’t regret it. Don’t get me wrong, I loved my jeep, but my wife didn’t find it comfortable to ride in and with 2 kids we needed more cargo space when going on week long trips. The Wrangler (IMHO) will always be the most capable with the solid front axle, OEM front locker, and sway bar disconnect, but they’ll also always be second fiddle in on-road ride comfort. Go to jeep and Toyota events and compare the number of rigs that get towed there on trailers and you’ll see why more people that do longer trips prefer Toyotas.
For me personally, I love the look of the jeep, but I'm 6'4 I tried sitting in 1 and it was not comfy 😅
As for the 4runner I'm waiting for the next generation model to come out!! I can't wait to see what they do with it
Great review but Just once Id like to see a 4Runner with 35's & a 3 inch lift go up against all of these modified jeeps... Or... A Bone stock TRD PRO against a bone stock jeep... Tires, Lift & clearance are no small thing... You are rating someone's modifications more than the vehicle itself if apples aren't apples...
No freaking doubt….
Difference is you can reliable and for the cheap put 35”s on a wrangler. The same cannot be said for 4Runner.
@@logan594 You lost me at reliable... I've had five 4Runners Gens 3-5, Put over a million miles on on them and only replaced brake pads, wiper blades & light bulbs... Living in Detroit, almost everyone I know here has a friends & family or manufacturing discount & drives Jeeps on the Cheap... All of them take their Jeeps in for problems as often as an elderly person goes in for check ups... Not personal, just being candid from a unique perspective here in Dodge country... I also sold Carwash systems in 3 states for 10 years to Dealership Service departments, had many Service & Parts managers that I dealt with & they conveyed the same "reliability"... My daily driver is a 2005 4Runner sport with a 4.7 V8 with 190,000miles on it... My brother has a 2015 Rubicon & my sister in law drives a 2018 Grand Cherokee... They both have had their vehicles in the shop multiple times over the last 2 years & my 2005 has Never had to go into the shop for repair...A simple 2&1/2 inch spacer on a TRD PRO will allow 34's reliably without issue & that's all I'm saying... It can be done with simple spacers which takes 45 minutes... As far as reliability... No jeep guy wants to put that foot forward in comparison to 4Runners if he is really a jeep guy because it simply cant be made... I just like apple to apple comparisons... If someone is going to flaunt a vehicles capability, the Tires have to be apples to apples or its not even a proper comparison... People want content so badly for their site that they compare vehicles based on available vehicles their influence can get them to review, not what they should be comparing for a fair comparison... Thats all...
@@Liberty-Works1111 I am speaking of off-road reliability, you put 35’s on 4Runner you’re going to break steering components 100% of the time if you do any sort of some what hard rock crawling. I’ve had Tacoma in past and have already done all this. I can more safely run 37’s on my current wrangler than you can 35’s on your 4Runner. IFS is just simply too weak unless you’re running extremely expensive parts.
Exactly... Then, put 200,000 miles on both & go on an excursion into the mountains & grade reliability... I'm on my 5th 4Runner, gens 3, 4 & 5 v6's & v8's & have put over 1.7 million miles across them without A N Y mechanical failures whatsoever & sold them all to people who went on to put silly miles on them... My brother & sister-in-law's jeeps Rubicon & Grand Cherokee make into the service department for some failure about every 12-13 months on average & some pretty costly... But this said, I drool when I see a Rubicon 392... Nobody's perfect!🤤
Nice try attempting to give the Jeep the win, but the 4Runner still takes it. And I'll add that driving in the 4Runner with all 5 windows down is an underrated experience.
Honestly I had a 1990 4Runner years ago and that little thing got me everywhere I tried to go with ease so long as user error didn't get in the way. I've always liked the little 2dr Jeeps and figured I'd get one for tighter, nastier stuff, but my 4Runner never let me down and gave me enough room to throw a sleeping bag in the back for winter camping out in bfe.
My 2018 JLU Sport is terrific. Love driving it everyday and it will go anywhere. I’ve been pretty rough on her and no problem
I have a Tacoma so I might be biased but a 2 door rubicon is a great off-road rig. But I wouldn’t overland a jeep 4 door or not. I think jeeps are better for off-roading and Toyotas are better for overlanding and are still good at off-roading just not as extreme
Exactly. Reliability is a huge factor in overlanding and should be considered in the score for the jeep
I love em both, I had a Tacoma for 13 years and it was indestructible. I'm a jeep guy now because when I was 22 i test drove a YJ and fell in love with the "tractor like" feel of it. I hate tech, don't want creature comforts and want my driving experience, off road or on, to be raw. To me a jeep with the top off and doors off and a manual trans is Heaven. I will say, if you are not mechanically inclined buy a Toyota, if you like wrenching buy a jeep.
Two timing belt changes on my 3.4 Taco and the 2nd still snapped and killed engine
I am a huge 4-Runner fan. We had a jeep CJ-7 years ago that was a reliability nightmare. Finally the engine caught on fire and we scrapped it. Toyota hasn't changed the 4-Runner since 2011 because they haven't had to. Probably the best made vehicle in the world.
The 4runner is underpowered, has an archaic 5 speed transmission, out of date tech, an out of date interior, and horrible fuel economy. The 4 runner is in serious need of an update.
@@byronlarson5534 Underpowered for what? It's got plenty of power to pull uphill grades in the mountains while towing a small trailer or to merge into traffic on an interstate, and it's got plenty of torque for driving off road. I don't drag race so I'm not too concerned about 0 to 60.
@@Don-md6wn I don't disagree that it is fine for what you describe. However, when you compare it to the competition, it is not up to par.
We did the same...but at the end of our trail was a small creek bed that got 3 feet deep in the middle...
3 Jeep Wranglers, 2 4Runners, 1 Tacoma...all were stock except the 1 lifted jeep...
Everyone made it through the trail...but when it came to the creek...the 4 Runners and the Tacoma made it through...the one lifted jeep made it through...but the remaining 2 jeeps stalled out in the creek...
We had to wait 4 hours for a wrecker to come out into the woods and pull the jeeps out...then tow each into town
It was definitely stupid on our part, to go through the creek, and very costly for my jeep buddies...but many beers were consumed!!
Nice comparison! I like the Jeeps for their off road capability. I did get a 4Runner as it can go almost anywhere a Jeep can go and just works better on road and for Overlanding. Mine is a 2014 Trail (rear locker, crawl control) with 3" lift, winch and 33's so a bit more capable than the one in this test.
Almost… more like barely and not, the only time that they push them to their boundaries they always break a CV and usually delay Jeep groups and are truly stragglers because someone always needs to winch them out on trails that only Jeeps can truly handle, I personally wouldn’t want to be on an expedition that has a 4Runner in the group
I had both the 5 gen 4runner, and now the jeep rubicon with the turbo 2.0. I'll admit I miss the 4runner, the drive of it but man was it horrible on gas. I'm in canada, I would get about 16L/100 km on city and highway... No difference. I had no lift, I had ko2s but stock wheel size. Another thing that pissed me off was to make my 4runner offroad ready aka again steel bumpers, lift, sliders, skid plates... I would have to spend another 10-15 grand easily. My rubicon 2.0 does 8-9L/100km highway and 11 in the city. The rubicon jeep feels so much more solid, well ya there a lot more metal. the rubicon came stock with skid plates, sliders and front and rear lockers. I know its a dodge fiat or w.e but ya it feels solid. The resale value for both are amazing in canada. Both rate at the top of resale for vehicles. I would say the 4runner has the better on road drive feel, but burns way more gas. It is also less offroad ready stock.. something to keep in mind.
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I miss my 2door jk for jeep stuff, and love my TRD ORP for all the negative jeep stuff. No more leaks, (coolant and top/doors) no more clutch pedal (I drive an 18speed every day for work so I’m over a manual daily driver), no more working on it every week, and no more waving at 1,000 strangers each day. Oh, and the 4Runner has a huge sunroof, and the rear window rolls down, so it’s close enough to having a jeep again without all the frustrations of owning one lol. Both are awesome and equally capable for their purpose. My vote goes to whichever gets you out of the house more often
If you want to go offroad. Get a jeep. If you want to make it back get a 4runner (the guy who said take a jeep to both is insane). If you want to do both get a 4 runner.
People forget they spend 1% of their time offroad IF EVEN and won't make a difference which you get if you don't have the skills to wield either.
I’ve had both of these cars and will pick the Jeep for the cool factor and fun in the sun (no top) but then, the reliability of the 4Runner makes this choice a very hard to make. Cheers!
I understand you but let’s not forget Jeeps new JL platform is VERY reliable.
@@DUNEATV I just looked at a Forbes list of cars not to buy and there were 5 jeeps on the list.
@@mikecoughlin4128 I realize that and I really do like Toyotas. But I have real world experience with owning numerous jeeps including a brand new Jeep Rubicon. I’ve owned it two years with 25,000 miles and it is absolutely perfect. The quality of the materials used the build quality and the driving experience with probably the best eight speed transmission in all of the car business. Truly a fantastic vehicle.
@@DUNEATV good to know. I hope that’s what my friend just bought. All I heard is she bought a jeep and I was concerned. Nice to know they are addressing issues.
@@mikecoughlin4128 I can only talk about the jeep wranglers. I’m not sure about the other models they make.
I like when the 4Runner got stuck going up and around the big boulder at the end and the camera cut 😂…
That’s not what getting stuck is. Getting stuck requires a winch and/or extraction by another vehicle. Backing up and taking a different line is not even close.
@@charlescole7532 whew, whew, whew! It’s the semantics police everyone watch out!….. listen democrat Dan, being “stuck” doesn’t require extraction and due to the “editing” you have no clue whether he was extracted or not.
I saw it too. Suprising it had to back up and change line.
Haha wasn't sure if I was the only one who saw that. Clear proof of the benefit of the solid front axle and sway bar disconnect. Better articulation and better traction because that tire is planted.
@@medicmike7549 And you have no idea whether it got "stuck" or not.
hello.i have 2017,JKU Sahara, 4 doors and i want to put a 2,5" lift kit on it... it is my daily vehicule and planning to go soft off road week-end. and usually have a trailer at the back with snowmobile in or a boat trailer. i am planning to buy a roor top tente, change the front bumper with a 12000 pounds winch.
my question is; what is The good lift kit on a budget. i am planning to keep the original mag wheels (18" x 7.75) but oversize the tire to 35 inches by xxx
if it is possible. so what lift kit do you think i have to choose. coil spring, chocks, front track bar, bumb stop ...... need your help. thanks have a nice day
Camera work and editing was on point!!
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If your main concern is pavement related creature comforts get the 4Runner; all day long. If you want the most out of your off-road potential, then hands down the jeep.
I own both and haven’t figured it out yet. They are both amazing and are perfect at different tasks.
37s on a Jeep and long trips in the 4 Runner. The JKU goes long distance on the trailer. My Ram 2500 is a dream on the interstate. Better than the 4Runner. Maybe the Jeep does win.
Cummins for the long trips is the champ
We do wildlife filming - lots of it. Have tested both vehicles to their extremes over the years, and when it's just you and mountain lions and tigers and bears, oh my - and a few hundred thousand dollars of gear, you will choose a 4Runner for it's real-world capability and reliability every time. That said, Jeeps can be oh so much fun when that's all that is at stake!
Jeeps are toys for kids.
4runners are the gentleman’s 4x4.
Can go anywhere you would seriously want to go (but for rock crawling games) and do it without wrinkling the crease in my trousers.
Bullet proof do it all 4x4.
Nice comparison, but I'd like to see both vehicles put through a bit harder test. If I were doing serious rock crawling, my choice would be a built Jeep, but for my needs as a daily driver that occasionally sees rocky/muddy/snowy Forest Service roads, I'm happy with my 4Runner. That said, you guys keep referring to those easy dirt/mud roads as "off-roading". I guess off roading in your part of the country is different than what we have in various places in the West. I love my 5th gen T4R and loved my old Jeep Wrangler, but heck, my Lexus RX300 would have had no problem on your test trail (aside from a couple of spots where ground clearance might be an issue).
Correct! Not a whole lot for real "off-Roading" around the Northern Midwest. Mostly farms and forest service roads. 😎✌
Not all of us want to crawl rocks. A nice off road drive with a couple of obstacles and good view of the mountains beats crawling rocks in the desert imo
I didn't want to criticize the easy trail because they made a good video. Those guys need to come out west.
I'm not complaining I watch almost every video . But seriously the driveway to my old homeplace is rougher that that. Just saying Toyota
Yeah.. not a whole lot for real "off-roading" up here in Wisconsin. Farm land and forest service roads for the most part. And thank you for your support! 😎💯
own a 2019 2WD 4 runner stock and it PERFORMS! GREAT CAR feels very sturdy
2 door jeep for a weekend rock crawler/mud bagger, 4runner for everything else
I like both but I would go with 4 runner. It's overall more useful and reliable.
Reliability all the way for me.
On my 3rd 4runner in 30 yrs. Can't beat their reliability and resale period.
My 2019 still drives like the day I took delivery, not a rattle or squeak of any kind.
Watched the video and the 'test' is pretty indicative of the type of trails/offroad I go on. Not real animal. I do like independent suspension. However, the active track I'm not familiar with and at one point the right front tire of the 4Runner was spinning and the truck was transferring power to the other wheels. That's a concern - Anyone have a suggestion as to how to resolve? i also like the extra towing capacity. This would be a 2nd vehicle for off-road fun only. Gas mileage of either is too low for my driving.
I'll take my '05 TJ Rocky Mtn with the amazing AMC 4.0 I6, Bfg mud terrains and ARB Lockers over both of these any day. But I will say these two are very capable as well. I just prefer the TJ over anything. And if I were to go with a newer vehicle, it would be the 2 dr JL Rubicon with mud terrains. No need to do any mods with that animal except swapping out the KO2's for MT's.
That 4.0L is a great engine.
The turn radius on the 4 runner is lacking compared to the jeep. It's actually a little underwhelming if you ask me.
Where do you get the blacked out top of the doors on the Jeep? Is that just paint? It looks so good with the black top.
I have a Wrangler, but sometimes I kind of wish I went with a 4runner.
I have a 4Runner XP Gunner and a 2dr Rubicon. Two different animals. I take the Rubicon for real offroad adventures that the 4Runner would not do so well on. The 4Runner is an excellent overlander plus some, but not having lockers, sway bar disconnects, and a winch really limits the amount of sketchy stuff I would do with it. 4Runner vs Wrangler is really apples and oranges to me. Maybe a lifted TRD and a JLU may be a little closer, but add the Rubicon package and performance will favor the Rubicon. That being said, I’ve never been in a Wrangler of any sort that will beat the ride and comfort of the 4Runner. They’re both incredible, but just a little too far apart for me to compare.
Let's see some hard obstacles a mud puddle isn't much to go on I could take my car thru this stuff
I'd prefer the Jeep to the 4runner for off road fun. 4runner to the jeep for overlanding. Give me a Deuce and a half and I'd do both 🤷
I think that's called off road, but here there are bush trails, there is a reason why I see alot of Jeeps in the Yukon😁
I have almost 190,000 Yukon miles on my '14 Rubicon 😂 I've done preventative maintenance over the years. The main search and rescue vehicle I depend on besides my 96 SportSKS 144" to reach people in distress during the winter😁
Keeping my Jeep Running is like keeping a SkiDoo Tundra250 maintained.
Strait Axels, winches(front and rear) are simpler and required when your here in Ak
Having owned one! 4Runner all day
I’d pick again my Gladiator over both. Bc for me I need the bed. If the 4Runner gets a 10/10 for Overlanding, then the Gladiator goes to 11. And losses of the break over and departure angles it causes doesn’t affect the trails I run. Between just these two, again the Jeep. Main reason- modifiability. Sure you can on the 4Runner, but Jeep is easier and more that you can do to it. For me, being able to customize your rig for trails you run and what you carry is one of the most important aspects of any offroader. 4Runner still a great rig. Hope Toyota doesn’t ruin it with next gen- add a few more gears and a bit more oomph under the hood and leave the rest alone.
No one like the truck jeep thing
@@BigYellow1500 😂 if you owned one you’d know the truth.
@@dadventuretv2538 I had one sold it with 6,000 miles on it due to numerous issues
@@BigYellow1500 so if no one likes the Jeep truck thing why did you buy one? I mean your comment was to dis the Jeep truck thing, not about its reliability, and now you say you bought one? Man don’t argue with your wife. Lol. If true, that sucks, but I have 33K+ miles in 13 months, including about 12 blue and some mild black level trails a year, and no issues. Lots of others I know personally with no issues. You can find any veh that some people have had issues with. My dad has had a number of issues with his Toyota Venza. My last rig was a Land Rover, not known for reliability, and I had 5 years of no issues until it was in an accident. So 🤷♂️. Hope you find something that you like and is reliable. 🤙
I have Jeep Cherokee XJ and a new Tacoma TRD OR. To thrash about in the woods and trails: the Jeep. To take on a cross country trip with 4-wheeling included: the Tacoma. My second Tacoma, my third Jeep. Jeeps are better off road at the limit but reliability counts too and big time. Overall, it’s the Tacoma.
Really depends on your use case and personal likes... I love my Jeep, have no desire to trade it for anything (another Jeep could be an exception someday).... but honestly, it's a daily driver 95% of the time. But when I want to go someplace to get away, well, it's really hard to beat.
Jeep reliable? lolol
great video. I would like to see those two vehicles compared in there stock form.
You called the Wrangler reliable 0:09. That’s a good one.
The 4Runner is the better vehicle in every quantifiable metric.
i love both ..i have a 4runner , both very capable trucks....but ont hing that I love about the jeep is the face that u can take off the roof and doors...thats cool to me :) nice vid
I disagree with the come from behind 3 bonus points, as being able to take the roof / doors holds no allure for me. Let me first say that I'm well into my 70s and have been off roading for over 50 years. In that time, I've owned almost every kind of 4X4 that was readily available, in this country. That would include 7 Jeeps of varying sizes, styles, and models. 3 Toyotas, an original FJ 40 Cruiser, a mid 80s single cab pick up, and my current off roader, a 2018 4Runner TRD Off Road Premium. And a number of others such as Scouts, an original Blazer, an '81 Ramcharger and various pick ups, smaller and full size. I've enjoyed them all. Some were, somewhat, better in certain situations but some others were better in other situations. I can honestly say that my two previous Toyotas were great off roaders and had far fewer mechanical / dependability issues than the others. Those things certainly played a big part in my decision to buy my 4Runner. I've done some mild mods to it. A 3 inch lift, rock sliders, and a steel, winch capable front bumper. I can honestly say that my 4Runner is my over all favorite 4X4 that I've owned. Not trying to start a pissing contest with owners of other makes, just telling my own experience. Let's all get out on the trails and have fun.
I have both a 16 SR5 Premium and a TJ non-Dana - Both are super fun. The 2-door Jeep short wheel base definitely has it's perks, plus can pull the top off and wash and drain.
Couldn't agree more!
Love my 2020 4runner!!💪🏾
Considering most people are going to be driving on the road 90% of the time, the 4runner is a no brainer way more room inside and more comfortable and quieter its not even a comparison. Take the roof off? Yeah that gets old quick with the sun baking you. Thats only good in a close canopy trail like this, in cooler weather.
Great Video y'all love both these Vehicles I couldn't choose so I went and saved 48.000 bucks and got me a 4.0 Jeep grand cherokee WJ with solid axles front and back yeah might have to spend some money on some lockers but I still saved a bunch of cash and still have all the room and comfort I could ask for..
I have my second 5th gen 4Runner, and my fiance has had multiple Wranglers and just switched to a Galdiator, THANKFULLY! The Wrangler is the superior crawler! Nobody can doubt that! It will get you over that VERY technical trail, easier. The 4Runner is best for EVERYTHING else lol Better and more comfortable at higher speed trails because of IFS, better all around comfort causing less driver fatigue, and unmatched reliability that is always going to get you back home lol.
My only complaint about Wrangler is on road handling (that is just my preference though) and being tossed around lol. The added length to the Gladiator is a big improvement in offroad ride quality IMO.
Overall, I love then both, but for different reasons!
I’ve had both vehicles and my last 3 vehicles have been Jeep’s and i currently have the 2024 4xe Willy’s and it’s just a amazing vehicle. I’ve been into 4x4 since 1980 and have had countless 4x4 foreign and domestic. Some better then others and since I’m not on food stamps I can get what is best to me and trust me we put our vehicles through the test while stock and if they pass that then we do our modifications but once again Jeeps stock without any upgrades will eat them all if one knows how to drive . And if you’re going to compare off road then go off road this course you on isn’t off roading your windows didn’t even get dirty
To each his own, both are very, very capable vehicles. The Jeep has better off roading capabilities, but the 4runner is the jack of all trades. And I’d choose that any day of the week over the Jeep.
Enjoyed the video, do you do anything with the 2022 6.2 Trail Boss.
I'm new to the 4wd world and have one with a 4" lift w 35x12.5 20
I considered a Trail Boss myself but went for a Wrangler due to the fact the Wrangler had the convertible top, and also the size difference. The Wrangler is much easier to daily. I think you'll find that the size of the Silverado will be the biggest factor for you. It's got a lift, it's got a locker, nice aggressive tires, it's a beast, but it's tall, wide, and long. The jeep can go places the TB just won't fit. If you're going to take it out on trails, have it ceramic coated for protection. I didn't, and I have trail stripes I need to buff out on my Jeep (hurts to look at on a vehicle that's less than 6 months old and only 6k miles).
If the Jeep had a straight six motor, I'd take it any day.
When you add points for reliability and resale value, it's 4Runner 4 the win, no contest.
I have a ram ecodiesel with 35's for trips and hauling my toys. I also bought back my old 2 door '01 TJ Sport and I will never sell it again.