I know a couple of people who work with dealers, but do it because they love their vehicles anyway! The worst are the fan boys that think their vehicle is perfect in every way, since there's no such thing!
As a jeep guy I gotta say I didn’t disagree with anything in this video. Another point is cost. When I drive a $50k Toyota I’m not surprised it cost $50k. When I drive a $50k jeep I can’t believe it cost so much. Then I buy it anyway. Lol.
Couldn’t disagree more. The TRD off-road 4Runners I looked at the dealer felt so outdated and basic, I just picked up a 2021 rubicon and it’s feels so much nicer. I’m saying this as a diehard Toyota fan. They really need to put more effort in, the 4Runner is basically the same since like 2012 and it feels/looks like it.
Yeah, gotta disagree. I’ve owned a lot of Toyotas and Wranglers, and they couldn’t be more different in terms of creature comforts and amenities. Wranglers are far more comfortable, have better sound systems, ride comfortably, have better infotainment, etc. Currently in a 2024 Rubicon and it’s pretty incredible. For reference, I also have a 2023 Navigator and a 2023 Lexus RX500 in my garage.
@@grisa12345 seat comfort is super subjective, which is why I mostly skipped over it. Ride quality is definitely not better in a Wrangler, whether it's stock or with an expensive suspension upgrade. With the exception of my old 1997 Jeep Grand Cherokee, the Wranglers are the worst handling vehicle I've ever driven. I've driven multiple stock and modified Wranglers, including a stock 392. The amenities and infotainment have leapfrogged one another over time. The older 4Runner's systems were super basic, but the more recent 4Runner models were better than the Wrangler's up until the 2024 Wrangler's new system. I'll agree that the 4Runner's sound quality is awful, but the Wrangler's isn't great either... not that you can really tell over the road, engine, and wind noise!
@@realestatesolutionsdenvero2075 I feel like all of your complaints about the 4Runner are things I’ve addressed. I have several people saying I was too harsh on it, and now you’re saying I was too generous? I gave what was my best attempt at a balanced overview of the pros and cons, which takes more than just the sound system and wheel controls (which I personally HATE in the Jeep) into consideration. On a separate note, I wonder if your 4xe is so much quieter and responsive thanks to the electric setup. I’ve only ever driven the 3.6 and 392. They are both loud, although the 392 was loud in a good way! Unfortunately they all handle poorly, but that’s just a solid front axle and short wheelbase characteristic.
As a 4Runner owner myself, the 4runner is for the 80/20 onroad to off-road person and is much better for overlanding. The Jeep is better for the 20/80 driver and crawling/technical. Neither one is better, only better for your intended use. That’s my 2 cents when someone asks me which is “better”.
Yep, I wholeheartedly agree which is why my ideal garage would have both vehicles. That’s the exact reasoning I give people when they want to have the argument on one versus the other. It depends on what you want to do. Both are great vehicles.
My 5th Gen 4Runner is my daily driver, work "truck"(handyman type work), and off-road camping and exploration vehicle. Your assessment is spot on. The cruise control does drive me a little nuts. But, even with it's minimal flaws, I love what this 4Runner is capable of and the places it takes me, without worry.
Nice video! I just sold a 2017 JK Rubicon that i put 45,000 miles on. Never had a single issue. I just picked up my 2024 JL Rubicon X with stock 35” tires and 4.88 gearing. I drove it from the dealership in Kentucky to Southern California. The first day I drove it 55 mph for 300 miles. That’s the recommended break in from the manual. I got 21+ mpg. Then when I was going 70 to 75 mph I was getting 19+. But then I hit very strong headwinds in Oklahoma and the pan handle of texas. Knocked me down to 14 mph. But I love this vehicle and I bought it for technical trails and rock crawling. It handles a lot better than my JK and am very happy with the sound system.
@@matthewschiebout7384not according to the manual. Besides I never said I didn’t move it off of 55 mph. You’re supposed to gun it ever so often too. Lower speeds are fine you’re just not supposed to go 80 off the lot
Had a 2018 modded 4Runner TRD Offroad. Upgraded to the new Bronco and have no regrets. I’m a big guy and every time I’ve sit in a Wrangler/Gladiator, I felt cramped. I feel the Bronco is a good compromise between a Wrangler and 4Runner. Hoping Toyota really knocks it out of the park with the 6th gen. Hope we find out soon!
Currently shopping for a used off-road vehicle and have been a Jeep guy for years 54 Willy and 86 CJ . I like your truthful analysis of both and I’m leaning toward a 4Runner. Thanks for the advice
It's a good choice. Definitely drive a Lexus GX460 too - they are usually around the same price and get similar gas mileage. They're a little harder to modify and lose a couple of off road goodies, but the V8 power and comfort is so nice!
I drove my Jeep Rubicon from Phoenix, Arizona to Moab, Utah, and ran the Hells revenge Trail then drove back to Phoenix. I was absolutely blown away how comfortable the Jeep was and how the eight speed automatic transmission performed. I got 21 miles per gallon average on the trip. The Jeep in my opinion is the far superior vehicle over the 4 Runner.
I'm a new Jeep owner. I way overpaid for a new Wrangler and use it for a daily driver. First thing I noticed- it wanders all over the paved streets. The second thing- crap gas mileage. But when i mash that gas pedal and hear that 392 Hemi roar, all the faults seem to not matter. I love that Jeep!
I do not own a jeep, and my 2018 4Runner is the only SUV Il've owned so I don't have a lot of real world comparisons between different manufacturers. I appreciate your honesty and agree with what you've said about the 4Runner.
I test drove a jeep thinking this is it, I'm finally buying a jeep, but the "'Willys" version just rode poorly. The first time I test drove the 4runner ....that was it... Completely changed my mind, the ride was so smooth , quiet and while on the road I didn't want a splitting headache.
Good video. As a former jeep owner and now with a 2021 4runner ORP, I agree with you. We do about 75/25 daily drive/ off road. For off road we mostly travel "green" and "blue" trails. Examples: Medano Pass, Engineer Pass, Yankee Boy Basin. No rock crawling. We added better skid plates, rock sliders, tires, roof rack. Our 4runner is perfect for what we do. No repair issues. One of my alltime favorite vehicles.
I’ve had both the 4Runner and now a jeep gladiator. And even a Tacoma as well. I’m not entirely sure why yet. But the gladiator takes the cake for me. It’s simple, rugged and minimalist. Which is what I wanted.
Solid honest review. I have had my JK 2dr sport since 2007. It does all I need and I've dong long trips in it, but it is quirky, noisy and has a wandering nature
From owner of both GX460 & 5g 4Runner, the 6 spd xsmn in the Lexus solves a lot of those cruise control and shifting problems. It’s remarkably much better actually.
Never had an suv and never had a convertible. And 2 door jeep is an awesome weekend car. Not something I’d drive to work but it’s so fun to drive with a manual transmission.
Rig choice is deeply personal, go with what you love. Some people's love of a platform is not reduced by its maintenance issues or quality control, nor its premium cost or road manners. My family has had so many wonderful TJs and YJs and I hated each of them with a passion when they were not off road. Simply the worst platform to daily drive I could personally think of, but I know a lot of folks who do without any complaints. For me, my overland rig of choice will always be our 1998 Tacoma.
I recently purchased my neighbors 2013 Toyota 4Runner Limited for $10k and I love it! I wasn’t really planning on buying an SUV since I already have Toyota Tundra TRD Rock Warrior. but 10 grand for a 5th gen 4runner is actually pretty damn cheap. I plan on doing more outdoor stuff with it with my family. maybe post stuff about the 4runner and our adventures soon on my channel 😊
@@RevereOverlandoh man, I still can’t believe it that I “bought” it for that price. now I’m definitely gonna make a walk through video about it tomorrow 😆
As a jeep wrangler owner of a turboed 2016 JKU that ive owned since brand new and in 2019 the build started at 82k miles. Im currently at 150k miles and have had very little issues. So reliability its been awesome. And i have teraflex 3.3 piggyback adjustable shocks with teraflex adjustable steering dampener and i think the jeep drives perfect on the road and even better offroad. We just did a 3500 mile loop with two other toyotas and the tacoma owner refuses to do rim rocker trail again as he said he truck was so rough on that trail where my jeep just floated over everything 🤣
@revere overland just get you a 200 series and all the rest is out the window!!! Loved this video BTW don't know how I'm barely seeing this 3 months later lol non the less great video as always maybe one of the days will cross paths on one of these trails
I am currently working towards a gladitor. Currently gf and I both have Jeeps. She has a 02 grand cherokee and I have an 06 LJ. Grew up around toyotas and have an unlce who worked for them for almost his whole career. When I got my LJ it was amazing and it still is. However with dogs and gf it is to limited on space. (Mainly due to dogs than anything). What are your thoughts on the wrangler vs gladiator?
As a 4runner and Wrangler owner I would agree with your assessment. I would have said the jeep however has giving me less trouble but at 70k miles I now need a new engine :/ Granted I'm pretty rough on my stuff...but the 4runner is still kicking at 130k.
Lines up with my experience as well. One thing to highlight about reliability that somewhat bothers me in off road world. When you start bouncing around off road, our reliability expectations need to change. Yes Jeep is pretty good nowadays but has had spotted history. Toyota pretty much have solid history on reliability. But that history is established by mostly for on road drivers. I don't consider a sensor here and there a concern to anyone. But when it comes to like ball joints and axles, we should all expect those problems to exist no matter the reliability history of a vehicle. I say this because people expect a Toyota won't break down on a trail and those are just not safe expectations. You gotta be cognisant of trail reliability on a trail no matter the manufacturer.
That’s always been my point with wranglers. Jeep has a bad reputation but there is no other vehicle that is modded to quite an extreme. How you can compare reliability when people immediately mod it for off road usage? You’ve got to at least lift it.
Brutally honest? Yes. I would agree with most of what you said. I previously owned a Wrangler JKU for about 9 years, loved it...off-road. Well, I loved driving it all the time really, but I agree, it's terrible on the highway. Now I own a '22 4Runner TRD ORP and absolutely love it. Am I quite as confident with it off-road, not yet, but getting there. On the road, I'd disagree with you. For the type of vehicle it is, it's better than just 'okay'. Yes there's more plush riding vehicles out there, but for what it is and what it costs...I think it's a bit better than just okay. Lots of good points made though. Nice work.
If I was just considering highway ride, vibration and harshness damping, and tracking then I’d definitely say it’s good. Unfortunately it’s let down by braking, cornering, passing throttle response, poor cruise control, engine noise, and lack of gears. Because of those I just couldn’t bring myself to say it’s good! If you’re happy with it that’s what really matters though, since it’s just my subjective opinion based on only the vehicles I’ve driven!
@@RevereOverland With KDSS some of the road manners are tamed almost to point the body roll is not an issue. I am deciding between 4runner and gx460 but here in ca the 91 octane the gx requires may be the deal breaker. The 4runner is more ready to go out the door. Coming from current overland vehicle is a 05 yukon with conversion in the back and better lockers suspension and slight 2 inch lift. Which I will keep the damn yukon as I do love that truck.
@@erics3527 I went with the GX. So far we’ve run regular and premium and saw no difference in power or fuel economy, so it’s running on 87 from here on out.
It would be interesting to ask people why they chose a wrangler, or 4runner, or land cruiser, or any of the other popular "overland" vehicles. Based on the reactions I get for driving a T100, I doubt people pay much attention to the spec sheets.
That would be an interesting comparison. I know everyone has their own priorities, but I wonder how many people buy a certain vehicle just because that's what everyone else does.
@@RevereOverland That's what I'm thinking. I guess it's a lazy way of choosing a vehicle without doing research. And there is always the "cool factor". A built jeep definitely carries the off-road explorer image even if it isn't ever put to the test.
Ive also owned both last 3 years - 4runners transmission sucks bad. Also havent seen the MPG on my JLRU being worse on 35s its actually better by about 2mpg. Agree worst attribute of the Jeep is the awful wandering steering compared to the planted 4Runners.
I came from having Ford Chevy and GMC Trucks for the last 35 years and today I drive a 2022 4Runner TRD Pro and off road it is better than any truck I have had. The MPG is better than any of my trucks. This is my first foreign vehicle and while I did not like this being from Iowa it piss me off how fast my trucks rusted from salt on the roads. For me I am a Hunter & Fisherman and Hiker and I tow a fishing boat also. My 2 years with 4Runner all I have done is add Rocksliders buy a Hitch carrier to haul deer and have maintenance done, I have 20,000 miles and nothing has had to be repaired and still looks new. My advice is always buy New because the cost per mile for 10 years of ownership is nothing. Who knows I might keep my 4Runner for more than 10 years ! Jeep was never considered as not enough room to carry all the gear we load for a 7 day elk hunt.
Hey Revere Overland!, I would say the Jeep Wrangler has one up on the 4Runner, because of the Solid Front Axle! In my personal experience (Glamis, CA and Moab, UT), if you put a Solid Front Axle on the 4Runner, it would be a tie. Only serious question to ask yourself; what are you trying to accomplish/build?
I drive both a Jeep and a Tacoma. (Which I feel is very comparable to the 4Runner in terms of reliability) I can’t really disagree with anything in this video, but when I get my Jeep off-road, it’s by far the most capable 4WD I’ve ever owned. (I’ve owned six) I was sad to see on Instagram this morning that you sold the Jeep for a GX, but I’m looking forward to seeing what you do with it. I’ve always enjoyed your content and look forward to much more in the future.
Yeah Tacomas and 4Runner seem similar in drivability, although the Tacoma is a little more modern (minus the drum brakes lol) but has a little less power. I'd take a Jeep on a tough trail over the 4Runner any day, but the 4Runner is much better for easy to mild!
I like my ram 1500. It will basically do everything good. After you put 37s, long travel offroad suspension, high clearance bumper and wide fiberglass fenderflares.
I 100% agree with you. They realistically shouldn't be (and aren't) competitors, but people looking to get a vehicle for overlanding often come up with these two options for some reason!
Honesty!! Wow not a common thing these days.. I do love my Jeep for where it can take me, but that also being said 99% of the time a moderately capable SUV would work just fine. Each will have a sacrifice of options.. Jeep vs. Toyota.. it's like 9mm vs. .45 ACP... the debate will never end. Just have to fit the one that best suites your individual needs and wants.
Excellent review. Love your review videos. Very honest comparisons. Would love to see your thoughts on the 6th Gen 4Runner. Hoping that’s what you end up getting to replace the Jeep and would look forward to your honest review. 😁
I don’t disagree at all. However when it comes to the Jeeps ride quality I would speak to one thing. And this is controversial but in my experience my Jeep would get blown across lanes in the Utah and Wyoming wind. I installed a 4” longarm lift and paired it with Falcon 3.3 adjustable shocks and the adjustable Falcon steering stabilizer. Those two mods alone made the Jeep go down the road soooo much better. The Toyota is going to be immensely more comfortable to daily drive and the dependability is not to be overlooked. I love both brands and think they both need to get some things updated. Hopefully the Ford Bronco will make them up their game.
one bummer about the 4runners with the rear locker is it drops that payload by ~400 lbs. I have a 2021 trd orp and it's only 880 lbs. I read somewhere that's probably just to be safe if you had the locker engaged, but have not seen anything official on that.
Last year I was looking to go back to more of an overland capable rig, moving from car camping. I have owned Jeeps (old square body Cherokees and old Willy's) in the past and they are incredibly capable off road. I described my Cherokee as 'it will go through anything except a gas station. Biggest problem is; to get to anything, you have to drive a Jeep'...goes to what you said about the wandering etc. Oh, if you have never experienced death wobble in a Jeep, thank the good lord. I ended up going with a Colorado ZR2, it was just too good of a deal to pass up. Gas mileage is also awful.
Like others, I don't disagree. I own both as well, but I have to say you're comparing a Jeep Rubicon or Sahara to all Jeeps. I have the Sport, which is the 2.0, and I get 21 miles on the highway. I'm really heavy with a Gobi rack, an awning, a shower ensuite, steel bumpers, side steps, and other stuff. Since my Jeep is a daily driver, I feel like it's better than my 4Runner. I also have more storage room in my JL than my 4Runner. Overall, to me, they are both dependable vehicles that anyone should consider getting. #JeepLife #4RunnerLife #OffRoadAdventure
This guy is too practical with his reasoned view on things and direct experience with what he's talking about, jk. Whichever vehicle gets Rob to video more terrain gets my vote! I'm a fan of both company's 4x4s and have owned a mixture from both. I agree with your points and have experienced the same as well. Although that 5spd in the 5th gen 4runner needs to go, so abysmal shifting, even compared to my 4spd TJ. Needs a ZF 8spd, but who knows what the 6th gen is bringing next year.
I daily my Gladiator and it does fine. Saying it sucks on road is a little extreme. Is it great? No but it’s good enough. If your jeep wanders then something is off with it usually. The high wind definitely affect it a lot tho haha I’m 6’2 and I don’t have the seat all the way back and I am very comfortable in it during my daily 2 hour commutes and longer road trips and the back seat is bigger than almost any other midsized truck or suv out there. I got the gladiator btw but same idea. I’m also on 37s and have gotten over 20 mpg on multiple tanks during my daily work commute which is better than tacos on 33s, so I don’t think the 3.6 is horrible on gas compared to other 6 cylinder trucks or SUV’s. I’ll gladly trade some slight on road comfort for the near infinite off road capability. But that’s me. Toyota makes great vehicles too and if I didn’t want to do more technical off road trails I would consider a taco or 4 runner. I just want to limit the off road trails I can’t do the most I can
The Gladiator apparently handles better than the Wrangler, and the Wrangler does suck. I’ve driven several, including a stock 392. The 392 at least has tons of power and sounds amazing, but it still handles like garbage!
I have a JTR and love it! It drives amazing and WAY better that the JL. I have driven a ton of JL Jeeps and they are not my jam. Do they drive like garbage? I wouldn’t say that. That's kind of extreme. They just take more effort to drive and you need to set up the suspension properly and they will drive nice. Not as good as a JTR or Yota of course. I also own a 1998 Jeep TJ. You should drive my TJ for a day. The JL drives AMAZING compared to the TJ. Nobody going from a TJ to an JL ever complains about how the JL handles. Hahaha -Cheers!
I was mostly referring to the JLU, since that's what I've owned. The JLU's mpg seems to be massively influenced by wind - I averaged 8 across Wyoming, but when I drove from Salt Lake City to Boise with a tail wind it went back up to 18. Heading home again I had a cross wind that had me sitting at 10 the first day, then 15 the second day after the wind died. The 4Runner just seemed to sit at around 15 no matter what.
If you really need articulation and plan to do a lot of mods, Wrangler. If you’re not going as hard, don’t want to do a lot of mods, and plan on most of your offroading being lots of dirt roads and washboards, the Yota will be much nicer and all you need. All said, I’d still take my Gladiator as an overlander over either. And it’s my daily- always packed and ready to go.
I like the concept of a Jeep having owned several, however I do wish they were more reliable and the 3.6 L V6 is a dog especially if you are going to be pulling a trailer or modifying your Jeep.
@@RevereOverland I like the fact that you can almost take them apart in your garage and work/modify them with ease. They are very utilitarian and yes they drive like battle wagons but that’s the romance they have. I corrected the lack of power by installing a supercharger. Totally different animal now.
I’ve owned a lot of Toyota 4x4s and Wranglers, and they couldn’t be more different in terms of creature comforts and amenities. Wranglers are far more comfortable (IMO), have better sound systems, ride comfortably, have better infotainment, etc. Currently in a 2024 Rubicon and it’s pretty incredible. If you’re on fire roads, just air down and the jeep is smooth as glass. For reference, I also have a 2023 Navigator and a 2023 Lexus RX500 in my garage.
To be honest with you I don't think jeep has anything to do with Toyota I don't even put them in the same category. I would put a Jeep against Landrover, not Toyota.
That statement is true for us American folk. But overseas, things like the Toyota 70-series exist. And those would legitimately compete with the Wrangler.
Eh, I would say it’s very subjective which one is better. I had an opportunity to drive both (ended up getting a Rubicon) and honestly in my opinion, the ability to take the Jeep apart like a lego set and add a million of accessories is a win for me, unlike 4runner. I abslutely dislike the interior of a 4runner: the plastic trim and outdated entertainment system. Also to get as close to Rubicon, I would assume you will need to drop close to 65K for TRD PRO
I 100% agree that it's entirely subjective depending on your wants/needs, which I tried to get across as best I could in this video! Also, a base model JLU is still going to be a more a little more capable than a TRD Pro 4Runner. A Rubicon would destroy it!
You should have talked about crash safety as you transport your family a lot in your vehicles. The Bronco is darn out right a death trap! It’s a fairly new vehicle so personally I’d stay away from it!!!
Dead on video… you need to borrow my gladiator diesel. I’m curious on how the longer wheel base and the diesel mpg / power stacks up. Full size is still king!
Have both. I’ll take the jeep on a road trip before the 4runner everytime. The 5 speed is so bad it’s insane. The 8 speed in the JL feels better in every way. I live 3 hours from Moab and 4 hours from sand hollow, and the jeep is my choice everytime. Youre not doing golden spike or moab rim in a 4runner. Also, the jeep diesel 2.0 turbo is better than the 3.6. I have the 3.6 but like the 2.0 more.
That’s true. Taking them off isn’t particularly useful for overlanding, and as someone who never took the top or doors off, that feature was lost on me.
To be honest its exactly as it sounds the jeep is a scaled down buggy(that can be put back to buggy with funds) while the 4runner is a more gradual progression from an crossover. I've gone from a 2nd taco to a 3rd gen taco 6spd to a sport s diesel gladiator and will not go back. Which i would've laughed at myself 10 years ago me owning a jeep, but the toyota ownership has been the most disappointing brand to own. That being said jeep is more raw experience less electronics while the toyota has tons of electronics to help offroad and on...
That sounds accurate! I've never driven a Gladiator, but I've heard they're a lot better on the road. They're probably a good middle ground, since they're only just not quite as capable as a Wrangler, but far still better than a Tacoma, while also having decent road performance.
Jeep Wrangler Rubicon: Far more capable. Far more efficient (4xE). Far more powerful (4xE or 2.0 or 392). Much more advanced tech across the board. More powerful sound system with a subwoofer standard. Removable doors and roof. Easier to modify with larger tires. Higher resale value (it’s true, look it up). 4Runner: more reliable powertrain (but many jeeps go hundreds of thousands of miles). Better on road manners (subjective, many people like the way a wrangler drives better).
Have you checked resale recently? KBB says the Rubicon loses value faster. Jeep is struggling to sell them new, and all their discounts has really hurt used prices. It hurt when selling ours.
Finally, someone who’s actually honest about this question and probably doesn’t have some vendor in their back pocket. Thank you.
I know a couple of people who work with dealers, but do it because they love their vehicles anyway! The worst are the fan boys that think their vehicle is perfect in every way, since there's no such thing!
As a jeep guy I gotta say I didn’t disagree with anything in this video. Another point is cost. When I drive a $50k Toyota I’m not surprised it cost $50k. When I drive a $50k jeep I can’t believe it cost so much. Then I buy it anyway. Lol.
Lol! The Jeeps are 100% worth it if you want something capable though. You just can't beat them.
Couldn’t disagree more. The TRD off-road 4Runners I looked at the dealer felt so outdated and basic, I just picked up a 2021 rubicon and it’s feels so much nicer. I’m saying this as a diehard Toyota fan. They really need to put more effort in, the 4Runner is basically the same since like 2012 and it feels/looks like it.
Yeah, gotta disagree. I’ve owned a lot of Toyotas and Wranglers, and they couldn’t be more different in terms of creature comforts and amenities. Wranglers are far more comfortable, have better sound systems, ride comfortably, have better infotainment, etc. Currently in a 2024 Rubicon and it’s pretty incredible. For reference, I also have a 2023 Navigator and a 2023 Lexus RX500 in my garage.
@@grisa12345 seat comfort is super subjective, which is why I mostly skipped over it. Ride quality is definitely not better in a Wrangler, whether it's stock or with an expensive suspension upgrade. With the exception of my old 1997 Jeep Grand Cherokee, the Wranglers are the worst handling vehicle I've ever driven. I've driven multiple stock and modified Wranglers, including a stock 392.
The amenities and infotainment have leapfrogged one another over time. The older 4Runner's systems were super basic, but the more recent 4Runner models were better than the Wrangler's up until the 2024 Wrangler's new system. I'll agree that the 4Runner's sound quality is awful, but the Wrangler's isn't great either... not that you can really tell over the road, engine, and wind noise!
@@realestatesolutionsdenvero2075 I feel like all of your complaints about the 4Runner are things I’ve addressed. I have several people saying I was too harsh on it, and now you’re saying I was too generous? I gave what was my best attempt at a balanced overview of the pros and cons, which takes more than just the sound system and wheel controls (which I personally HATE in the Jeep) into consideration.
On a separate note, I wonder if your 4xe is so much quieter and responsive thanks to the electric setup. I’ve only ever driven the 3.6 and 392. They are both loud, although the 392 was loud in a good way! Unfortunately they all handle poorly, but that’s just a solid front axle and short wheelbase characteristic.
As a 4Runner owner myself, the 4runner is for the 80/20 onroad to off-road person and is much better for overlanding. The Jeep is better for the 20/80 driver and crawling/technical. Neither one is better, only better for your intended use. That’s my 2 cents when someone asks me which is “better”.
Exactly!
Yep, I wholeheartedly agree which is why my ideal garage would have both vehicles. That’s the exact reasoning I give people when they want to have the argument on one versus the other. It depends on what you want to do. Both are great vehicles.
4Runner owner here and I completely agree with his assessment. I’d love to own one of each. I still drool over built Wranglers on 40’s.
I do too. We bought ours after watching The Story Till Now make gnarly trails look easy!
My 5th Gen 4Runner is my daily driver, work "truck"(handyman type work), and off-road camping and exploration vehicle. Your assessment is spot on. The cruise control does drive me a little nuts. But, even with it's minimal flaws, I love what this 4Runner is capable of and the places it takes me, without worry.
I loved our 4Runner too
Nice video! I just sold a 2017 JK Rubicon that i put 45,000 miles on. Never had a single issue. I just picked up my 2024 JL Rubicon X with stock 35” tires and 4.88 gearing. I drove it from the dealership in Kentucky to Southern California. The first day I drove it 55 mph for 300 miles. That’s the recommended break in from the manual. I got 21+ mpg. Then when I was going 70 to 75 mph I was getting 19+. But then I hit very strong headwinds in Oklahoma and the pan handle of texas. Knocked me down to 14 mph. But I love this vehicle and I bought it for technical trails and rock crawling. It handles a lot better than my JK and am very happy with the sound system.
@@alfa8822 I’m totally blown away with my 2024 Rubicon XR it’s truly fantastic on and Off-Road!
proper break in specifically means not driving at the same speed for extended time, like "55 mph for 300 miles"
@@matthewschiebout7384not according to the manual. Besides I never said I didn’t move it off of 55 mph. You’re supposed to gun it ever so often too. Lower speeds are fine you’re just not supposed to go 80 off the lot
I think you hit the nail on the head and theres nothing wrong with being honest! Nice video mate!
Had a 2018 modded 4Runner TRD Offroad. Upgraded to the new Bronco and have no regrets. I’m a big guy and every time I’ve sit in a Wrangler/Gladiator, I felt cramped. I feel the Bronco is a good compromise between a Wrangler and 4Runner. Hoping Toyota really knocks it out of the park with the 6th gen. Hope we find out soon!
I think the Bronco is a good middle ground too. It seems to be a lot more suited to road use without sacrificing all of its off road ability.
I'd take either and make the most of it!!!
They'll both get you places
Currently shopping for a used off-road vehicle and have been a Jeep guy for years 54 Willy and 86 CJ . I like your truthful analysis of both and I’m leaning toward a 4Runner. Thanks for the advice
It's a good choice. Definitely drive a Lexus GX460 too - they are usually around the same price and get similar gas mileage. They're a little harder to modify and lose a couple of off road goodies, but the V8 power and comfort is so nice!
2nd trying a GX.
I drove my Jeep Rubicon from Phoenix, Arizona to Moab, Utah, and ran the Hells revenge Trail then drove back to Phoenix. I was absolutely blown away how comfortable the Jeep was and how the eight speed automatic transmission performed. I got 21 miles per gallon average on the trip. The Jeep in my opinion is the far superior vehicle over the 4 Runner.
I'm a new Jeep owner. I way overpaid for a new Wrangler and use it for a daily driver. First thing I noticed- it wanders all over the paved streets. The second thing- crap gas mileage. But when i mash that gas pedal and hear that 392 Hemi roar, all the faults seem to not matter.
I love that Jeep!
The 392s are so much fun to drive!
I do not own a jeep, and my 2018 4Runner is the only SUV Il've owned so I don't have a lot of real world comparisons between different manufacturers. I appreciate your honesty and agree with what you've said about the 4Runner.
That’s why I went with the Rubicon Gladiator. It tracks well down the road and insanely capable. Also more payload and space.
I've heard the Gladiator drives better, but as much as I've ridden in them, I've never driven one!
I test drove a jeep thinking this is it, I'm finally buying a jeep, but the "'Willys" version just rode poorly. The first time I test drove the 4runner ....that was it... Completely changed my mind, the ride was so smooth , quiet and while on the road I didn't want a splitting headache.
It's definitely a huge difference between the two!
Good video. As a former jeep owner and now with a 2021 4runner ORP, I agree with you. We do about 75/25 daily drive/ off road. For off road we mostly travel "green" and "blue" trails. Examples: Medano Pass, Engineer Pass, Yankee Boy Basin. No rock crawling. We added better skid plates, rock sliders, tires, roof rack. Our 4runner is perfect for what we do. No repair issues. One of my alltime favorite vehicles.
The 4Runner is perfect for trails like Medano and the Alpine Loop roads!
I’ve had both the 4Runner and now a jeep gladiator. And even a Tacoma as well. I’m not entirely sure why yet. But the gladiator takes the cake for me. It’s simple, rugged and minimalist. Which is what I wanted.
Solid honest review. I have had my JK 2dr sport since 2007. It does all I need and I've dong long trips in it, but it is quirky, noisy and has a wandering nature
From owner of both GX460 & 5g 4Runner, the 6 spd xsmn in the Lexus solves a lot of those cruise control and shifting problems. It’s remarkably much better actually.
Never had an suv and never had a convertible. And 2 door jeep is an awesome weekend car. Not something I’d drive to work but it’s so fun to drive with a manual transmission.
Yeah I think Jeeps make great weekend cars!
Rig choice is deeply personal, go with what you love. Some people's love of a platform is not reduced by its maintenance issues or quality control, nor its premium cost or road manners. My family has had so many wonderful TJs and YJs and I hated each of them with a passion when they were not off road. Simply the worst platform to daily drive I could personally think of, but I know a lot of folks who do without any complaints.
For me, my overland rig of choice will always be our 1998 Tacoma.
I recently purchased my neighbors 2013 Toyota 4Runner Limited for $10k and I love it! I wasn’t really planning on buying an SUV since I already have Toyota Tundra TRD Rock Warrior. but 10 grand for a 5th gen 4runner is actually pretty damn cheap. I plan on doing more outdoor stuff with it with my family. maybe post stuff about the 4runner and our adventures soon on my channel 😊
I think you mean you stole your neighbor's 4Runner for $10k! Lol. You got an amazing deal. The 2010-2013 4Runner is my favorite.
@@RevereOverlandoh man, I still can’t believe it that I “bought” it for that price. now I’m definitely gonna make a walk through video about it tomorrow 😆
As a jeep wrangler owner of a turboed 2016 JKU that ive owned since brand new and in 2019 the build started at 82k miles. Im currently at 150k miles and have had very little issues. So reliability its been awesome. And i have teraflex 3.3 piggyback adjustable shocks with teraflex adjustable steering dampener and i think the jeep drives perfect on the road and even better offroad. We just did a 3500 mile loop with two other toyotas and the tacoma owner refuses to do rim rocker trail again as he said he truck was so rough on that trail where my jeep just floated over everything 🤣
Solid axels versus IFS , they are completely different . Use what works best for you
That's definitely a big part of capability vs drivability, but there are a few other things to consider!
Side note. I thibk your video was very well done and I agree on almost every point you made.
@revere overland just get you a 200 series and all the rest is out the window!!! Loved this video BTW don't know how I'm barely seeing this 3 months later lol non the less great video as always maybe one of the days will cross paths on one of these trails
I am currently working towards a gladitor. Currently gf and I both have Jeeps. She has a 02 grand cherokee and I have an 06 LJ. Grew up around toyotas and have an unlce who worked for them for almost his whole career.
When I got my LJ it was amazing and it still is. However with dogs and gf it is to limited on space. (Mainly due to dogs than anything).
What are your thoughts on the wrangler vs gladiator?
Great perspective dude enjoyed they video...
As a 4runner and Wrangler owner I would agree with your assessment. I would have said the jeep however has giving me less trouble but at 70k miles I now need a new engine :/ Granted I'm pretty rough on my stuff...but the 4runner is still kicking at 130k.
Lines up with my experience as well.
One thing to highlight about reliability that somewhat bothers me in off road world. When you start bouncing around off road, our reliability expectations need to change.
Yes Jeep is pretty good nowadays but has had spotted history. Toyota pretty much have solid history on reliability. But that history is established by mostly for on road drivers.
I don't consider a sensor here and there a concern to anyone. But when it comes to like ball joints and axles, we should all expect those problems to exist no matter the reliability history of a vehicle. I say this because people expect a Toyota won't break down on a trail and those are just not safe expectations. You gotta be cognisant of trail reliability on a trail no matter the manufacturer.
That’s always been my point with wranglers. Jeep has a bad reputation but there is no other vehicle that is modded to quite an extreme. How you can compare reliability when people immediately mod it for off road usage? You’ve got to at least lift it.
Brutally honest? Yes. I would agree with most of what you said. I previously owned a Wrangler JKU for about 9 years, loved it...off-road. Well, I loved driving it all the time really, but I agree, it's terrible on the highway. Now I own a '22 4Runner TRD ORP and absolutely love it. Am I quite as confident with it off-road, not yet, but getting there. On the road, I'd disagree with you. For the type of vehicle it is, it's better than just 'okay'. Yes there's more plush riding vehicles out there, but for what it is and what it costs...I think it's a bit better than just okay. Lots of good points made though. Nice work.
If I was just considering highway ride, vibration and harshness damping, and tracking then I’d definitely say it’s good. Unfortunately it’s let down by braking, cornering, passing throttle response, poor cruise control, engine noise, and lack of gears. Because of those I just couldn’t bring myself to say it’s good! If you’re happy with it that’s what really matters though, since it’s just my subjective opinion based on only the vehicles I’ve driven!
@@RevereOverland With KDSS some of the road manners are tamed almost to point the body roll is not an issue. I am deciding between 4runner and gx460 but here in ca the 91 octane the gx requires may be the deal breaker. The 4runner is more ready to go out the door. Coming from current overland vehicle is a 05 yukon with conversion in the back and better lockers suspension and slight 2 inch lift. Which I will keep the damn yukon as I do love that truck.
@@erics3527 I went with the GX. So far we’ve run regular and premium and saw no difference in power or fuel economy, so it’s running on 87 from here on out.
It would be interesting to ask people why they chose a wrangler, or 4runner, or land cruiser, or any of the other popular "overland" vehicles. Based on the reactions I get for driving a T100, I doubt people pay much attention to the spec sheets.
That would be an interesting comparison. I know everyone has their own priorities, but I wonder how many people buy a certain vehicle just because that's what everyone else does.
@@RevereOverland That's what I'm thinking. I guess it's a lazy way of choosing a vehicle without doing research. And there is always the "cool factor". A built jeep definitely carries the off-road explorer image even if it isn't ever put to the test.
Love your content , we are in Arizona now. Would love to go on an adventure with you.
Ive also owned both last 3 years - 4runners transmission sucks bad. Also havent seen the MPG on my JLRU being worse on 35s its actually better by about 2mpg. Agree worst attribute of the Jeep is the awful wandering steering compared to the planted 4Runners.
Yeah that 5 speed is awful. Our mpg between the two has been very similar, but the Jeep's falls apart with the slightest head/cross wind.
I came from having Ford Chevy and GMC Trucks for the last 35 years and today I drive a 2022 4Runner TRD Pro and off road it is better than any truck I have had.
The MPG is better than any of my trucks.
This is my first foreign vehicle and while I did not like this being from Iowa it piss me off how fast my trucks rusted from salt on the roads.
For me I am a Hunter & Fisherman and Hiker and I tow a fishing boat also.
My 2 years with 4Runner all I have done is add Rocksliders buy a Hitch carrier to haul deer and have maintenance done, I have 20,000 miles and nothing has had to be repaired and still looks new.
My advice is always buy New because the cost per mile for 10 years of ownership is nothing. Who knows I might keep my 4Runner for more than 10 years !
Jeep was never considered as not enough room to carry all the gear we load for a 7 day elk hunt.
Those 4Runners are definitely made to last!
Dynamite breakdown. Well done.
Thanks! I tried to be as brutally realistic about the capabilities and purpose of them both!
Hey Revere Overland!, I would say the Jeep Wrangler has one up on the 4Runner, because of the Solid Front Axle! In my personal experience (Glamis, CA and Moab, UT), if you put a Solid Front Axle on the 4Runner, it would be a tie. Only serious question to ask yourself;
what are you trying to accomplish/build?
That's what makes the Jeep so much better on technical trails, but also what makes me hate it so much on the road and on mild trails!
@@RevereOverland So true!, damn if YOU do,, damn if YOU don't! 😂😂
Happy Easter!!
I drive both a Jeep and a Tacoma. (Which I feel is very comparable to the 4Runner in terms of reliability) I can’t really disagree with anything in this video, but when I get my Jeep off-road, it’s by far the most capable 4WD I’ve ever owned. (I’ve owned six) I was sad to see on Instagram this morning that you sold the Jeep for a GX, but I’m looking forward to seeing what you do with it. I’ve always enjoyed your content and look forward to much more in the future.
Yeah Tacomas and 4Runner seem similar in drivability, although the Tacoma is a little more modern (minus the drum brakes lol) but has a little less power. I'd take a Jeep on a tough trail over the 4Runner any day, but the 4Runner is much better for easy to mild!
I like my ram 1500. It will basically do everything good.
After you put 37s, long travel offroad suspension, high clearance bumper and wide fiberglass fenderflares.
Lol! The Jeep Wrangler is one of a few vehicles that don’t need all that work, so you’re not alone!
Thank you for this video. I've been thinking about getting a daily driver to save miles on my overlanding Tacoma. I'm taking wrangler out of the mix.
Good call!
I think this comparison is spot on. I was thinking of a Tacoma but Jeep wins in the capability category.
The Jeep will definitely be a lot more capable and a lot easier on technical trails!
As a jeep guy I didn't disagree with any of the good points that you mentioned. My only point though is thatyou kinda compared oranges with apples
I 100% agree with you. They realistically shouldn't be (and aren't) competitors, but people looking to get a vehicle for overlanding often come up with these two options for some reason!
Honesty!! Wow not a common thing these days.. I do love my Jeep for where it can take me, but that also being said 99% of the time a moderately capable SUV would work just fine. Each will have a sacrifice of options.. Jeep vs. Toyota.. it's like 9mm vs. .45 ACP... the debate will never end. Just have to fit the one that best suites your individual needs and wants.
Excellent review. Love your review videos. Very honest comparisons. Would love to see your thoughts on the 6th Gen 4Runner. Hoping that’s what you end up getting to replace the Jeep and would look forward to your honest review. 😁
I wish! Unfortunately it (and the LC/GX550) are probably going to be outside of my price range for a second vehicle.
I never liked the jeep for overlanding and towing. In my eyes its a comfortable buggy. Fantastic offroad, but its tiring in 3+ hours road trips.
I have found that Jeep owners will use a “Skottle”, whereas 4Runner owners usually have a Jetboil genesis. You all know it’s true!
I have a Jetboil Genesis, so you might be right
I don’t disagree at all. However when it comes to the Jeeps ride quality I would speak to one thing. And this is controversial but in my experience my Jeep would get blown across lanes in the Utah and Wyoming wind. I installed a 4” longarm lift and paired it with Falcon 3.3 adjustable shocks and the adjustable Falcon steering stabilizer. Those two mods alone made the Jeep go down the road soooo much better.
The Toyota is going to be immensely more comfortable to daily drive and the dependability is not to be overlooked. I love both brands and think they both need to get some things updated. Hopefully the Ford Bronco will make them up their game.
one bummer about the 4runners with the rear locker is it drops that payload by ~400 lbs. I have a 2021 trd orp and it's only 880 lbs. I read somewhere that's probably just to be safe if you had the locker engaged, but have not seen anything official on that.
Last year I was looking to go back to more of an overland capable rig, moving from car camping. I have owned Jeeps (old square body Cherokees and old Willy's) in the past and they are incredibly capable off road. I described my Cherokee as 'it will go through anything except a gas station. Biggest problem is; to get to anything, you have to drive a Jeep'...goes to what you said about the wandering etc. Oh, if you have never experienced death wobble in a Jeep, thank the good lord.
I ended up going with a Colorado ZR2, it was just too good of a deal to pass up. Gas mileage is also awful.
I’ve had a death wobble in my old 97 ZJ. It was pretty terrifying lol.
Like others, I don't disagree. I own both as well, but I have to say you're comparing a Jeep Rubicon or Sahara to all Jeeps. I have the Sport, which is the 2.0, and I get 21 miles on the highway. I'm really heavy with a Gobi rack, an awning, a shower ensuite, steel bumpers, side steps, and other stuff. Since my Jeep is a daily driver, I feel like it's better than my 4Runner. I also have more storage room in my JL than my 4Runner. Overall, to me, they are both dependable vehicles that anyone should consider getting. #JeepLife #4RunnerLife #OffRoadAdventure
This guy is too practical with his reasoned view on things and direct experience with what he's talking about, jk. Whichever vehicle gets Rob to video more terrain gets my vote!
I'm a fan of both company's 4x4s and have owned a mixture from both. I agree with your points and have experienced the same as well. Although that 5spd in the 5th gen 4runner needs to go, so abysmal shifting, even compared to my 4spd TJ. Needs a ZF 8spd, but who knows what the 6th gen is bringing next year.
I'm looking forward to seeing what they do with the 6th gen. I'm guessing 8 speed 4 cylinder turbo and maybe a hybrid in the Pro.
I daily my Gladiator and it does fine. Saying it sucks on road is a little extreme. Is it great? No but it’s good enough. If your jeep wanders then something is off with it usually. The high wind definitely affect it a lot tho haha I’m 6’2 and I don’t have the seat all the way back and I am very comfortable in it during my daily 2 hour commutes and longer road trips and the back seat is bigger than almost any other midsized truck or suv out there. I got the gladiator btw but same idea. I’m also on 37s and have gotten over 20 mpg on multiple tanks during my daily work commute which is better than tacos on 33s, so I don’t think the 3.6 is horrible on gas compared to other 6 cylinder trucks or SUV’s. I’ll gladly trade some slight on road comfort for the near infinite off road capability. But that’s me. Toyota makes great vehicles too and if I didn’t want to do more technical off road trails I would consider a taco or 4 runner. I just want to limit the off road trails I can’t do the most I can
The Gladiator apparently handles better than the Wrangler, and the Wrangler does suck. I’ve driven several, including a stock 392. The 392 at least has tons of power and sounds amazing, but it still handles like garbage!
@@RevereOverland fair. I’ve never driven the wrangler more than a few miles so it surprises me they are that different
I have a JTR and love it! It drives amazing and WAY better that the JL. I have driven a ton of JL Jeeps and they are not my jam. Do they drive like garbage? I wouldn’t say that. That's kind of extreme. They just take more effort to drive and you need to set up the suspension properly and they will drive nice. Not as good as a JTR or Yota of course. I also own a 1998 Jeep TJ. You should drive my TJ for a day. The JL drives AMAZING compared to the TJ. Nobody going from a TJ to an JL ever complains about how the JL handles. Hahaha -Cheers!
"regular maintenance" involves a ton more than oil and filter changes, way more actually, and much more expensive, whether its a 4Runner or Wrangler
Maybe Ineos Grenadier should be an option?
Maybe, but I've never driven one so can't comment on it.
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American resident*
I have a green card but not the passport. Lol.
Were you primarily talking about the Jeep JL or JK?
Because with my stock Sport JL, I actually get like 25 mpg on the highway. To be fair, it is stock
I was mostly referring to the JLU, since that's what I've owned. The JLU's mpg seems to be massively influenced by wind - I averaged 8 across Wyoming, but when I drove from Salt Lake City to Boise with a tail wind it went back up to 18. Heading home again I had a cross wind that had me sitting at 10 the first day, then 15 the second day after the wind died. The 4Runner just seemed to sit at around 15 no matter what.
If you really need articulation and plan to do a lot of mods, Wrangler. If you’re not going as hard, don’t want to do a lot of mods, and plan on most of your offroading being lots of dirt roads and washboards, the Yota will be much nicer and all you need.
All said, I’d still take my Gladiator as an overlander over either. And it’s my daily- always packed and ready to go.
Only problem with the Bronco is it's a Ford😂😂😂
You've got me there!
I also have both as well. Question... Does your ARB bumper on the 4runner loosen up and wobble often?
I have the 2010 4runner
Not at all. It has some flex in the crumple zone mounts, but never came loose.
I like the concept of a Jeep having owned several, however I do wish they were more reliable and the 3.6 L V6 is a dog especially if you are going to be pulling a trailer or modifying your Jeep.
They're amazing for technical off road trails, but that's about all!
@@RevereOverland I like the fact that you can almost take them apart in your garage and work/modify them with ease. They are very utilitarian and yes they drive like battle wagons but that’s the romance they have. I corrected the lack of power by installing a supercharger. Totally different animal now.
That's a good point that maybe I didn't address very well. It's super easy to pull panels and work on them!
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I’ve owned a lot of Toyota 4x4s and Wranglers, and they couldn’t be more different in terms of creature comforts and amenities. Wranglers are far more comfortable (IMO), have better sound systems, ride comfortably, have better infotainment, etc. Currently in a 2024 Rubicon and it’s pretty incredible. If you’re on fire roads, just air down and the jeep is smooth as glass. For reference, I also have a 2023 Navigator and a 2023 Lexus RX500 in my garage.
To be honest with you I don't think jeep has anything to do with Toyota I don't even put them in the same category.
I would put a Jeep against Landrover, not Toyota.
That statement is true for us American folk.
But overseas, things like the Toyota 70-series exist. And those would legitimately compete with the Wrangler.
They're not in the same class as one another, yet people ask which they should get between the two all the time. That's why I made this video!
@@RevereOverland yes, people do ask all the time.
I’m a Jeep guy, but I’ll guarantee you the resale will be better with the Toyota
The Jeep's resale has plummeted, especially with the big discounts that Jeep is putting on now.
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Eh, I would say it’s very subjective which one is better. I had an opportunity to drive both (ended up getting a Rubicon) and honestly in my opinion, the ability to take the Jeep apart like a lego set and add a million of accessories is a win for me, unlike 4runner. I abslutely dislike the interior of a 4runner: the plastic trim and outdated entertainment system. Also to get as close to Rubicon, I would assume you will need to drop close to 65K for TRD PRO
I 100% agree that it's entirely subjective depending on your wants/needs, which I tried to get across as best I could in this video! Also, a base model JLU is still going to be a more a little more capable than a TRD Pro 4Runner. A Rubicon would destroy it!
You should have talked about crash safety as you transport your family a lot in your vehicles. The Bronco is darn out right a death trap! It’s a fairly new vehicle so personally I’d stay away from it!!!
The Bronco has better NHTSA crash ratings than both the 4Runner and Wrangler, and is the only one with a 5 star passenger rating.
get the global champ, the land cruiser 200
Or the cheaper LX570 here in the US!
@@RevereOverland true but the lx lacks the KDSS which is why I went LC over the LX. See you out on the trails, I also live in the pnw eastern wa
Dead on video… you need to borrow my gladiator diesel. I’m curious on how the longer wheel base and the diesel mpg / power stacks up.
Full size is still king!
I've heard the Gladiator handles much better, and I'm sure the torquey fuel efficient diesel is far better than the 3.6!
TACOMA!!!
A solid choice, but also an easier choice. Buyers should ask themselves if they want a truck or not, and that'll answer the question!
Spun engine bearings are in your future with your Tundra. Get rid of it while u can.
Have both. I’ll take the jeep on a road trip before the 4runner everytime. The 5 speed is so bad it’s insane. The 8 speed in the JL feels better in every way. I live 3 hours from Moab and 4 hours from sand hollow, and the jeep is my choice everytime. Youre not doing golden spike or moab rim in a 4runner. Also, the jeep diesel 2.0 turbo is better than the 3.6. I have the 3.6 but like the 2.0 more.
Jeeps doorless and topless feature cannot be touched any any modern toyota, Bronco is the only real competition
That’s true. Taking them off isn’t particularly useful for overlanding, and as someone who never took the top or doors off, that feature was lost on me.
To be honest its exactly as it sounds the jeep is a scaled down buggy(that can be put back to buggy with funds) while the 4runner is a more gradual progression from an crossover. I've gone from a 2nd taco to a 3rd gen taco 6spd to a sport s diesel gladiator and will not go back. Which i would've laughed at myself 10 years ago me owning a jeep, but the toyota ownership has been the most disappointing brand to own. That being said jeep is more raw experience less electronics while the toyota has tons of electronics to help offroad and on...
That sounds accurate! I've never driven a Gladiator, but I've heard they're a lot better on the road. They're probably a good middle ground, since they're only just not quite as capable as a Wrangler, but far still better than a Tacoma, while also having decent road performance.
Neither, Bronco all day long baby!!
The Bronco got a mention at the end as a good middle ground!
Jeep Wrangler Rubicon: Far more capable. Far more efficient (4xE). Far more powerful (4xE or 2.0 or 392). Much more advanced tech across the board. More powerful sound system with a subwoofer standard. Removable doors and roof. Easier to modify with larger tires. Higher resale value (it’s true, look it up). 4Runner: more reliable powertrain (but many jeeps go hundreds of thousands of miles). Better on road manners (subjective, many people like the way a wrangler drives better).
Have you checked resale recently? KBB says the Rubicon loses value faster. Jeep is struggling to sell them new, and all their discounts has really hurt used prices. It hurt when selling ours.