2021 Toyota 4Runner TRD Off-Road vs. Ford Bronco Badlands
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 พ.ค. 2024
- You asked for it: we pitted our 2021 Toyota 4Runner versus the new 2021 Ford Bronco Badlands with the Sasquatch package. The Ford is a beast of an off-roader... can the venerable 4Runner compete on an offroad challenge course?
#toyota #ford #offroad
CONTENTS
00:00 - Introduction
02:09 - Climb Test
05:53 - Ford Trail Control vs. Toyota Crawl Control
13:56 - Recovery Test Bronco vs 4Runner
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OK- what size tires were on the 4Runner? What is the difference of wheelbases?
Tires were stock size: 265/70/R17s. The Ford has a 100.4 inch wheelbase. The Toyota has 109.8 inch wheelbase. It’s interesting to note that the four-door version of the bronco is 116.4 inch wheelbase. So neither is really a match to the 4Runner.
@@drivingsports agree and the difference in tire size is significant--------do you have any insights on the buying process for 2022s? Will go anywhere in country to get one (maybe via Costco) once the new ones are announced (have you heard a date)-- really like your vids- keep them up
@HeavyWord G true, people want to see anything that confirms their biases. Looks like the old 4Runner stacks up well, as much I love the new Bronco. I may have to get one while I wait. I’m curious to see what the next generation 4Runner will be like too.
Regardless of results, 4runner is a better quality vehicle. Ford would rather release a vehicle knowing it has problems betting on sales to make up for the recalls.
@@dumuntai The new Toyota’s are not what they used to be sadly. Miss my old Tacoma compared to my 2020 I purchased new. To many issues lol
Lets see how the Bronco holds up after 5 years, 10 years or 21 years like my current 4runner with 385,000 original miles. Praying for the Bronco but sticking with Toyota. Just an edit to this, currently at 421k miles; starter was replaced…$120.00
Couldn't have said it any better 👏
Great comment. True true true true and true
exactly
Who'd want an old high milage 4 wheel drive as a daily runner? In 10 or whatever years I'll have a hell of a lot more fun with the Bronco. There's a lot more to owing vehicles than its longevity. It would be a boring place if we all drove Camrys.
@@Deatomizer oh definitely, the technology in the Bronco is light years ahead of my old 4Runner. I’m rooting for the Bronco to give Toy a run for the money.
Heard someone say the Landrover Defender was a very reliable 4x4. 😂
Cocaine is a Hell of a drug.
I once got in a huge argument with someone claiming they have an LR3 that he wheels hard and it never breaks. People will defend their garbage because they're invested in it.
@@jesseashmore8426 People don’t realize that capability and reliability aren’t the same. Land Rovers are very capable until they start breaking down. Most owners are probably afraid to even take them off the pavement for that reason.
Ha ha! At Eric. True.
I'm Rick James bitch!!
The new defender hasn't been out long enough to tell if it's a reliable vehicle but I haven't heard anything on it being unreliable other than LAND ROVER haters wackimg off at the jaw. But we all know that's just childish behavior.
I grew up in my family’s shop, and I have several years working in Auto Parts stores. I always see the same brands having issues. You never see Toyotas. All Toyota owners buy are oil/air filters, and air fresheners.
@@Somnospeed my girlfriend drove her first gen RAV4 until 340,000 miles without issues, and then she sold it to someone else who still beating the hell out of it. I met a guy from Michigan with a Toyota Corolla (79’) that had 1,250,000 miles. Toyota rules the world!
I work in a shop, Tacoma’s and specially tundras are more often damage brakes and suspension than Chevy and Ford trucks.
@@nmp244 they have their issues, but they keep running. Chevy, Ford and Chrysler products are meant to last only 5 to 8 years to keep American job security moving. Japanese vehicles are built to last because they have different laws in Japan. In Japan once your vehicle reaches 50-60k miles the price of insurance, registration and other taxes tend to rocket sky. That’s the way Japan found to keep their market moving and always selling new cars. Americans do the same by building disposable cars. Just like Apple does to the iPhones, once they release a newer model, the previous 2 models start running slow to the point that we have to buy the newest iPhone.
@@devil2jz500 Like I said, I’m talking about trucks, Tundras are no better than F150 or Silverado. Tacoma just to be a great truck but ever since they updated they changed transmission and suspension lot more fragile.
@@nmp244 suspension is a matter of how much you abuse it
I would like to see both these vehicles back for this test after putting 150 000 miles on them.
You're assuming the Bronco will still be functional after 150K miles.
Yeah,that Bronco will be in the graveyard.No comparison in regard to reliability.The 4Runner has a longer wheelbase,which should be worse on hillclimbs,but obviously it did very well.As compared to ability on and off road?Clearly the 4 Runner is better.The Bronco is nice and it does have front/rear lockers,which is required for any true wheeler,but the crawl control on the Runner is far superior to what’s delivered from Ford.
They’ll need a pinch hitter for that bronco.
No ones even had them long enough for you to say the reliability isn’t there lol. Theirs a reason they’ve been best selling since they started.
@@KarstRats you’ll see.They don’t build trucks to run that long in America-and I’m a veteran and I believe in buying American-I even owned three Broncos before they quit making them in 96-I had an 89,93(which I got clocked in)and then the 96 Eddie Bauer edition which I loved and kept 10 years, and I was constantly throwing money at it to keep it running.I couldn’t get to 100K before I had to put a transmission in it,all four window regulators,the rear window motor,and countless other repairs.I just soaked up those costs and chalked them up.When I bought my next vehicle-it was a 4Runner-because-wait for it-the sliding rear window hatch just like the Bronco-and the prerequisites-4WD,manual shift,locking hubs etc.
I was waiting for problems to happen after 30K,but nothing ever went wrong with that truck,or any of the other 3.Each one of these 4 Runners were modded with 3” of lift,33” all terrains,lockers front/rear,roof rack with tents,refrigerators and dual Optima batteries with solar panels for additional charging while camped.None of these trucks ever failed me,and after 20 years,I resigned myself to always buy 4 Runners.As I said,I am as red blooded as any American,and I fought and bled for this country,but I have never had an American truck run as reliably as these Yotas
Hands down, the 4Runner is a beast and my top choice. That old Toyota tech just works so much better than the trendy Bronco. Great video!
Going on my 4th 4runner.
@@sugargold4126 That is not exactly singing praises of the yota.
The TRD Off-Road is also available with KDSS which is like a mechanical, hydraulic front sway bar disconnect. It’s pretty amazing since it improves stability at highway speeds but allows for greater articulation when rock crawling.
I have KDSS on my 15’ trail. Gets decent flex for IFS
Can u lift still with kdss or it will ruin it
@@captaindiabetes4244 you can put a lift or even a brand new suspension if you want does not affect the system. Only reason why people opt out of the kdss is when they want to do a long travel set up, the kdss cant support that. You can give the 4runner up to 3 in lift. With kdss 2.5 in the front and 1.0 in the rear, some people do have issue with what they call kdss lean when the system trys to compensate pressure from one side to the other because it thinks its higher or lower, I have not had that issue so it may be because it was i stalled incorrectly. There is a way to bleed the pressure to reset the system if it does happen. Either way research and shop around for a shop that has done lifts for the kdss. 👍
@@robertsquires3519 I opted for KDSS. In stock form. It is superior to not having it that is for sure. For what you are talking about, I read some owners that did the lift and still use KDSS have opted for the ability to shut the system off when it is compromised. (not something I would do) There are videos out there on how to modify the system so you can flip it on and off at your convenience.
@@captaindiabetes4244 Works with 2.5" lift on my 2018 Off Road.
I will still and always be 4Runner forever
FJ Cruiser forever!!!
I thought bronco is at the same level with Toyota but nooo
@@Adrian-tw8un the older Broncos are bulletproof so maybe yeah they are
@@jeffreya8329 I wouldn't say bullet proof but nearly lmao Fords from the 60s to 90s were amazing
I only wanted a Land cruiser but it's nearly impossible these days but 4runner hasn't disappointed for what I need it to do it's not a race car so ya...
Great video! I can't help but think that the 4Runner pulling the Bronco was somewhat unequal. First, the holes dug by the Bronco, while filled in, were not as hard a surface as the Bronco had to drive on. Second, the stump blocking the front wheel made a huge difference in combination with the soft surface. I have no doubt the 4 Runner could have pulled the Bronco out with all the tools at it's disposal. Keep up the good work, I enjoy your videos!
The bronco dug the hole and the 4 runner had to go through it in the beginning.
Bronco looks fun but for me the 4Runner is much better overall. Ford trades reliability for high performance from a smaller engine. Plus I never spend as much time on the trails as I think I am going to so hi-way comfort is really nice to have.
I love the bronco and the 4Runner because they are real suvs
The Bronco looks cool and and has cool features but investment wise I’d still go for the Toyota quality, durability and reliability.
Investment wise, go with the bronco. They’re selling second hand 15-20k over sticker
@@babyboynoluv66 How is it investing to pay more than MSRP?
@derek flint why
The Bronco resale will hold up if the Turbo engines don’t blow. The Bronco looks make it a street must have, hence the MSRP inflation. True off-roaders should pass until the used ones are for sale, the Turbo on a lot of truck engines is really a wh..wh...Whaatt!!! It’ll need the new negative-10W-20 AMSOIL~LES~ @ $137.55 a quart. Limited Edition Steroidal. The manual states: change oil every 750 miles when moving one or more passengers on short trips.
@@johnr8820 most likely TRD resembles TURD
Imagine you put $10k worth of mods into the 4runner to match the Broncos price… kings or icon lift, regear, 35s and front air locker. Front winch bumper and winch. It would mop the floor with the bronco.
Like they say... you put lipstick on a pig, it's still a pig, even if it cost 10k.
@@TubeRLH how is a 4runner a pig? Great looking, especially with mods, super capable and super reliable. Toyota’s ATRAC is hands down the best off road traction control system out, especially coupled with crawl control. This video even showed that. All it needs off the lot is more clearance, bigger tires, and longer cycling suspension to totally destroy the bronco at everything
@@MountainMace, saying "you put lipstick on a pig" is just a metaphor. Really, if you put all of what you say on the Toyota you might as well haul it to where you are going to take it wheeling on a trailer. It would be like an Albatross, which I would probably like the way it looks but it takes the family car look out of it. This video didn't show hands down the Toyota is the best off-road traction control system out there; it compared two things that don't do the same thing. I'm not sure if they did that deceptively or they just didn't do their homework, but the Bronco Trail Control has nothing to do with traction... nothing!
Could just buy jeep and do more :)
Yea you could do all of that but then the Toyota wouldnt be as reliable would it?
Toyota hates tech because they know more tech equals more problems down the road
Barebones equals more reliability...thats the Toyota motto
The recovery wasn’t an apple to apple comparison. You used the front locker on the bronco for recovery. If you would’ve used Atrac on the 4runner it would’ve recovered up that hill. Also, you disengaged the swaybar. To give a better comparison, a 4runner with KDSS should’ve been used.
he used what tools each vehicle had, would be neat to see it it helped but since the bronco is a heavy fudger it would probably still struggle
He only used the front locker on the final challenge. For the first challenge he did not need it. The 4 Runner did not even make it that far.
@@stephenzerfas5307 huh?
These reviews need to read the book, that’s why you have terrain select, and the one button A-TRAC, it also works with the rear locker locked. I think A-TRAC would have worked for all hills the best.
Definitely not a fare test in my opinion either, the 4Runner is a great car, I doubt after 100,000 miles many of Broncos will be even running, without many major repairs.
Ford doesn't do so well on the Trail Control test: "I want to give the Ford a second chance."
Toyota gets hung up on a stump during the tow: "I didn't have a spotter, didn't see it, too bad."
Cant admit 4runners better 😂
@@Rehck117 no they aren't
@@trailboss7504 Prove it.
Give him a break he was fearing for his life at that point. Some Ford suit was staring at him with his arms crossed and steam coming out of his ears.
The screen in the Bronco is larger than my first TV.
Exactly. That seems to be the only advantage. Big screen, Big screen, Big screen. Who cares. 4Runner proven over and over again
...and about the same quality.
The 4Runner is better by far, the 4.0 and 5 speed transmission is bulletproof easy can run 500k miles
Do you know when they switched from 4.0 to 3.6 in fifth gen?
@@77magnuss 3.4 was on the 98-04 I believe
But doesn’t the latest 5th gen have a smaller engine, 3.6 I believe. I’ve heard the older 4.0 is better than the newer engine.
Ok, I think I’m wrong, looks like it still has the 4.0
@@77magnuss 4.0 engine is been around for long time, the newest Tacoma have 3.5
That Ford bronco looks great-however I’m keeping my Ford Ranger bc the tow rating is better. The Toyota is impressive.
The tow rating is better because it was designed for that… good luck doing any of this stuff in a ranger.
You're just now finding the 4Runner impressive. Been living under a rock for 20 years? LOL
crawl control is truly legendary at this point
Because Broncos crawl control works with Goat mode you can see in 2nd attempt it was just a piece of cake .
@@trailboss7504 with the diff locked…..
@@PhoRunner 4L is different from 4H crawl control or not.
@@trailboss7504 The bronco is a POS
@@trailboss7504 pos Ford junk
People who are complaining about the trail control/GOAT modes being used incorrectly in the Bronco, consider that a guy educated about the Bronco platform and reviewing it may have not know the best setting to put it in, while with the 4Runner he turned on crawl control with a single button and had no issue. Despite the trail getting torn up by the Bronco.
Just set it in mud and ruts or rock crawl and the features will turn on by itself. The idiot turn on mud and ruts at the end but go on and disable rear locker which automatically turns on on this mode. What a moron of a Toyota Fan boy
@@sebastienh78 got to admit all the modes are a gimmick and if Mud and rut was not smart enough to be aggressive with the traction control it kind of sucks. There is a saying KISS ( keep it simple stupid) for a reason.
@@sebastienh78 You DO know he switched off the rear locker on the Toyota also right? Trail control in the Ford is a joke, plain and simple.
It appears that the Ford's shorter wheelbase (normally an advantage) was a disadvantage on this particular obstacle. The Ford's right rear tire was in hole at the same time its front left tire was in a hole. By comparison, when the Toyota's front left tire fell into the hole, its right rear tire was still firmly planted -- allowing the rear tires to continue to propel the Toyota forward. By the time the Toyota's right rear tire fell into the hole, the front left tire was on solid ground -- allowing the front tires to pull the vehicle forward.
My point is NOT that the Ford is a better off-roader than the Toyota. It's simply this test favored one vehicle over the other. A different obstacle may have given a different result.
@@DKWalser I don't think it matters as the test was about the crawl/trail control, if even if two tires on the Ford weren't gripping there were two others that were, the trail control is supposed to stop the two with no traction and send the power to the ones WITH traction, even if three were off the ground one tire should have all the torque.
Great review. Like the looks ofthe Bronco, but I'd have to go with the 4RUNNER overall long term.
The bronco looks sharp, and I'm a sucker for the 4runner, but I'll stick with my GX470.
Maybe some slight scrubbing but your GX 470 with AT tires would do all of this. I’m confident my GX 460 with Toyo AT3 would.
Cool story.
GX470 is a underrated beast off-road
I would too…I love my runner, but damn those things are tanks.
GX is just a prado
4Runners have great resale value and hold up better over time. I'll take a 4Runner over a Wrangler or Bronco any day.
You would probably take a Camray over a Mustang or Camaro, lots of people like old folks' cars.
@@RSDX99 We are talking about SUVs not sports car brother.
@@RSDX99 Your comment is strange since you are assuming I would rather have a 4 door family car over a 2 door muscle car and I prefer quality over driving enjoyment. I actually love the GT350 and if I had the money, that's the car I would get right now.
How can you claim the 4Runner holds up better over time? Better than what? The bronco is brand new. There is no data on how well it will hold up.
Broncos resale is going to be just fine
I like that bronco, and I'm a 2door jeep Rubicon owner. The Toyota looks more on road vehicle but the dependability of Toyota is legendary. Let's be honest that off road area is not difficult. It just what you like. Have agreat day.
That was my thought. He used the word "gnarly"... I've seen more gnarly offroading on the dirt road to my parents house.
This review is so biased against the 4Runner it’s hilarious 😂
Nobody seems to believe it though.
I own a trd off road toyota 4 runner, best decision i made this year
Finally!!!! The competition I've been waiting for! Thanks Driving Sports TV! ❤. Love this channel 👍
my wife drives a four runner... in my opinion the Forerunner outperformed the Bronco... now that being said there's more to 4-wheeling than Electronics... I'm also looking for reliability.... and so for the Broncos not proven yet.
The 4runner should be winning these little tests like a piece of a cake considering they’re ancient af, the Bronco should come nowhere near it but I think they both performed great.
look up a 2.7 from the F-150. They have been out for a while. My son gas a 4rubber, me, 03' F-150. the short Bronco would be perfect, especially with all that tq range. It would take time to get used to for sure I think. But the vehicle has all that 'do-it-for U-tech', so I would feel less skilled. I'm a Ford guy, but I couldn't find a 4rubber that I could afford. Then, my son got one, but he won't take it off road.
If the 4Runner had 300k miles on it I’d still take it over the bronco
Average JUNKOTA Fangirl
Agree 4runner will always be better
@@coltondodson2866 Toyota’s are nice because of dependability but they are such boring vehicles and lack power
@@Cr5pt0Puzzl3B0x people that buy them are looking for reliability combined with functionality, not really power.
@@eddiem2211 yeah that’s exactly what I’m saying. That’s really the only reason you’d buy one
I’ll keep my 4R TRD Pro. Sure the tech on the Bronco Sasquatch are the latest (highly susceptible to recalls) but when your out in the boondocks, you need a reliable 4x4 truck with a proven drivetrain. ✌️
And FYI Bronco is based on 13 year old Ranger T6 platform which is proven extremely reliable and durable and those two engines are also well proven in F150 . Nonetheless Enjoy your underpowered Rattling and vibrating tractor pee runner with that boring looks , boring to drive ,Worst interior and plastic uncomfortable .Congrats on the number of Boring Years ahead 👍👍
@@hotrod7603 they just stopped production of the Bronco due to defective hardtop. Total junk
@@hotrod7603 the EB are proven... But not proven reliable. Ford racing raptor couldn't even hang with a tundra or a 10 year old Land cruiser in the Baja 1000.
@@hotrod7603 look at the engine bay of that Ford and tell me that's not a problem waiting to happen.
@@MrJcjet lol
I went from a bullet proof 2009 Tundra 5.7L to a 2017 F-150 with an Ecoboost 2.7 V6. This is the same engine that comes in the Bronco. What a mistake! At 14,000 miles there was a huge cloud of blue smoke at startup so the driver side turbo had to be replaced. At 25,000 miles the front differential was making a bad noise that Ford refused to repair unless it completely failed. Black puffs of smoke after startup for a few minutes each morning after the new turbo. Never mind a few crazy electrical gremlins affecting the HVAC and infotainment system that Ford refused to address.
Traded the Ford in for a 2019 4Runner TRD Off Road with KDSS and rear locker. 53,000 miles with no issues. We’ve done at least 3,000+ miles of off road driving and have the pinstripes and skid plate and rock slider dents to prove it.
No way I would choose the Bronco with the 2.7 Ecoboost (or any other Ford engine) over a 4Runner. Honestly, I hope Toyota continues to offer a non turbo 4Runner with the next generation.
you may got a lemon but that 2.7 ecoboost are well proven engine nonetheless I have seen many broken down pee runner on road if this was fb I would have sent you the pictures too !
Well proven but my overall Ford was a piece of crap. 30+ years of Toyota and Honda ownership and I spent more time in the Ford Service department than all of my other vehicles combined. I’ll keep my boring yet reliable and capable Toyota 4Runner.
@@octavioperez6996 as I said you may got a lemon and I have seen many pee runner broken down the road or getting towed , if this was the fb I would have sent all those 13 pictures to you
Pee Runner is this kindergarten?
Here’s the video of my wonderful proven ecoboost experience.
m.th-cam.com/video/RN352WZfhys/w-d-xo.html
You did not get a lemon at all these are common issues.
Toyota all the way I have the exact same one in this video and couldn't be happier, it even has plenty of room for my son's carseat and is even valued more now then when I first purchased in December.
Yeah they are great SUV’s only thing sucks is the value will decrease when the new 4Runner comes out
@@jeffreya8329 Not necessarily - there are rumors that it will be uni-body with a small (2.3?) turbo engine. I'm sure it's won't blow up (unlike ford) but it probably won't be a today's beast.
So you gave the Bronco a second chance on a challenge, but didn’t try different options for the 4Runner on the recovery challenge. I was loving your balance in this review right up until you totally gave up on the 4Runner so easy.
Bro this video is sponsored by Ford, on the down low.. hence doging of the 4runner
@@AB-yc1np Sponsored by Ford? The man bought the 4Runner, and at multiple steps said how he and others preferred the T4R. I own a T4R and while I'd still buy it again, the Sasquatch Bronco will be more capable offroad compared to one every time. Stock vs Stock.
Had to give the Bronco a win.
Bruh 4 runner wouldn’t have completed that last challenge regardless. Torque is too low.
"v6 just couldn't do it" yeah, because it had everything to do with the engine and nothing to do with traction...
I fall in love With the 4Runner
Awesome review. The “bucking bronco” thing made me legitimately laugh out loud. You really do a great job highlighting the features and keeping the bias out. Or at least being very honest about the bias when it happens :)
They didn't use the features of the Bronco.
@@TubeRLH Like what? because the point of that test was to see what the trail control and crawl control could do, neither vehicle was using any features except that.
@@adrianhosein7698, You should do your homework before you spout off about something you know nothing about. To compare 4runner Crawl control which applies the brake to a spinning wheel so the non-spinning wheel gets the torque compared to the Bronco Trail control which is only cruise control at slow speed also one pedal control (otherwise no traction control) is very deceptive. I know he knew it because I just watched a video he made before this video where he reviewed the Bronco and described exactly what Trail Control did. Also notice when he was driving the Bronco saying it was struggling but trying hard to climb then he touched the brake (brake lights flashed) and then he said there it goes it working... BS. Off-road 101, you touch the brake when a wheel is spinning to cause the other wheel to pull it up. Then he says the 4runner Crawl control is superior to the Bronco Trail Control, more BS. To be a fair comparison he should compare 4runner Crawl Control with Bronco Rock Crawl which at the end he did turn on Rock Control and said that was everything the Bronco has to climb the hill... and look, it climbed right up. Sorry to pop your bubble, being bias is one thing, cheating is another.
For the money, reliability and my use the TRD off-road with the toytec lift and 285 Nitto’s is just fine.
Man, this may be the first FMC vehicle I ever buy. Also, first time viewer and now subscribed.
Bronco looks great but I'll ever leave Toyota
Bronco is good looking for sure. But for me it ends there. Can’t trust Ford for build a quality product on the 1st try. I’m certainly not willing to risk $40+K on a “ Maybe “. Absolutely love my 2021 4R TRD Off Road premium., old school for sure. But bullet proof.. Can’t wait to see what Toyota does with the 6th Gen 4-Runner!
Exactly. Check out the video of all the thousands of Broncos sitting at factory in Wayne Michigan with issues already. Quality is number one and that equals Toyota
Exactly. Search "Bronco mechanical review" and you'll see they cheaped out on a lot of things under the hood.
@@StubProductions Are you high on your 💩 or what ? Bronco's are sitting at factory due to chip shortage and hard top delays Not due to issues keyboard warrior also don't talk about Quality of Junkota their interior are worst and full of rattles and vibrations , frames are so weak that they prone to fall within a year lol
@@hotrod7603 uh ok
I rather prefer to walk or buy an old bronco than this decade old outdated, Uncomfortable , boring , worst interiors , less capable and Røtten Egg looking Turd Pee Runner ,at the end its still a JUNKOTA tho😅
Excellent video guys!! Just a note, the 4Runner's tires were spinning so was not the fault of the V6 when towing, probably tire size related.
Great video although it would have been nice if you had a 4 door bronco with the longer wheelbase to be more of a equal comparison. At the end of the day I think I would go with the 4runner because I don't want to worry about my turbos after 100k.
I thought the exact same thing about the difference in wheelbase!!
This video was not comparing apples to apples. Shame on them for producing such a biased and inaccurate video comparison - and they get paid to do this?
Save 10k, proven reliability, capable. I’ll put my money on the 4Runner based on MY intended use, though the Bronco is certainly cool.
Bronco has the proven engines of f150 and an extremely reliable and durable 13 year old T6 Ranger platform so how can you say it isn't reliable ? It's away way better vehicle with way better looks , engaging to drive and Extremely capable can do Rubicon Trail stock from the factory itself !
@@hotrod7603 4runner can also run the Rubicon stock. Toyota literally did that in 2010. Then took the same vehicle and ran stock class in the Baja 1000 and finished second. When a bronco even finishes the Baja 1000 - get back to me. The raptor barely finished once in 10 years and the class 6 race truck bronco couldn't even finish.
@@hotrod7603 because it's a Ford versus a Toyota.
@@MrJcjet The Bronco finished 3rd in the NORRA Mexico 1000 🤷♂️
@@jkid4855 nope it is JUNKOTA vs Ford
Love the Merkur T-Shirt. My cousin's first car--was a blast!
I wish the bronco being tested was a 4 door so it’s more accurate against the 4 door runner
The 4 door bronco gets better weight distribution. It's like a 60/40 weight bias with the 2 door and a 54/46 on the 4 door.
I have a 2011 4runner with 50.000 miles and never had a single problem. I love it.
Love these 4Runner vids. We have a 2021 MGM 4Runner TRD Off Road as well.
It's the 4Runner for me. I can't wait for the next generation 4Runner!
Concept for the new 4 runner should debut in 2028.
@@trailboss7504 #butthurt
@@aaronbryan5095 Actually you can see so many #butthurt Toyjunk online kids in the comment section trying so hard to defame Bronco in order to prove their dad's car superior
@@trailboss7504 don't even try to make yourself sound like a reasonable person, I've already seen all your "I'm offended reeeeee" kind of replies to other people's comments, go get life suckbag or even better go to your local dealership and actually buy a new Bronco.
@@aaronbryan5095 Lol no matter how you cry you can't change the fact that ToyJunk has the most Røtten Minded fanbase who know nothing except Reliability
Im still staying with 4 runner forever
God I love your off-road vids/reviews. I am glad the home team is able to offer capable-enough alternatives, but I'm Team Toyota all the way. Another great review!
looks like even Subaru X-mode is better than Bronco's trail control.
Man I want Subaru to implement a trail/crawl control equivalent.
Lmao. Please do not comment until the meth is out of your system.
The only thing Subaru can do better than Ford is how many times it’ll have to go to a mechanic for repairs.
@@ZachMauch me too! They pretty much have it when going down hill.
@@takuyatanaka5587 so true. I had Subaru’s. Always in the shop.
I'll stay with the sure thing....4Runner.
Yep that 4runner SURE is ugly and blah
@@mr.whales3600 That's what I like about 4Runners. Plus, it will get you there AND back. It will also have a lifespan 5 times longer than the Bronco. But go ahead and getcha one of em....LOL.
@@hikingdoodle8298 Not sure where you have been the last 20 yrs. but the days of Toyota having far greater life spans over domestic auto makers ( Ford in particular) are long gone. Quality and dependability from Ford and other u.s. automakers have made leaps and bounds. While Toyotas quality has if anything suffered in it's desire to become the worlds largest automaker.
Outstanding comparison! Much appreciated. Job well done. Thank you.
Love this channel. Keep up the great work!
Your videos are better than anything on Netflix!..could binge watch them all day....great job!!
They didn't do a good comparison, what are you talking about?
I realize the 4runner is getting a bit long in the tooth but this is why I love my 2019 Trd off-road...I've had 5 and they never disappoint. Love my 21 Power Wagon as well...just saying 😆. Answer to your question…as exciting as the new Bronco is, 4Runner for me for daily life.
I have a 2016 SR5, 4runner. And love it. I think it looks better than the Bronco as well. But the Bronco is a very cool truck. Ford did a good job. I also wish Toyota would step up the power and add a few more gears in the automatic transmission. Overall I would still buy the 4runner over the Bronco. Can't wait to see what people do to the Bronco in the future. It's going to be a big hit.
@@jamey48 yes sir...also can't wait to see what Toyota will do with next 4runner, should be exciting.
@@jamey48 I hear you...but Toyota has always kept it safe, and this is why they will always be top for reliability. I just got a 21 Tacoma and the 6 speed tranny is super old, but there's a reason they don't change it...It just works. This is why the Tundra engine didnt change for almost 2 decades and was still the top reliable truck. I we have to wait and see the reliability in the Bronco, but I'm going to put money on it that it will stink like other Ford vehicles. The big three will never be in the same league as Toyota, and it all starts at the plant...one plant encourages it's workers to shut the line down when there's a problem, while the other doesn't care and keeps pushing them out even though there are issues (worked at one of the big three plants)
Hats off to two of my favorites brands for their great design.
At the end of the day, I'd go home with the 4Runner too. Way capable for midwestern dirt and gravel roads, and a more comfortable ride of the highway. And despite being an older design, the sales number on the 4Runner keeps going up.
A new 300 hp / 300 lb ft engine and a 8 speed auto would do wonders for the Toyota 4Runner !
The new 4runner next year will have 300+ lb-ft so stay tuned till next year
That's why I have the Trail Hawk with a Hemi. Can tow my 4500lbs camper easily and is just so comfortable.
Their gonna put a pos 4L in it. Lol. Long live the 5th gen
Toyotas longevity kills fords hands down
Nah, Super Duty outlasts every other truck on planet earth while doing more work. We shall see how the new Bronco lasts, FYI there are still ‘66 Broncos out rock crawling.
I see more vintage Broncos out then any 4runners
@@xfactoroutdoors165 seeing an old bronco is a rare sighting for me, while 3rd gen and below 4runners are everywhere I go
Ya man they’re thick in southern Illinois. I had a 76 and wish I never sold it.
@@xfactoroutdoors165 that gen of bronco is definitely my favorite
Ok….now which one will last longer.
Let’s say a simple 400k miles.
My gen3 4Runner has 342k and going strong on that original engine and transmission.
Love this one...thanks for making this! Love my 4runner too, always dependable.
I had to subscribe after watching this video. Awesome job comparing two bucket list SUV’s! 👍👍👍
I still would pick the 4Runner
oh please, just put the A-Track in the last test.
That’s what I’m talking about They need to do a redo hell I would do it I got the same truck same color same package TRD off-road
Keep it up!!! Love how this Is first video on bronco side by side w a 4runner love this channel
It was a terrible comparison.
Not even credible. 4runners and Tacoma’s are warlord true 4x4 look at The Middle East. How many old and current Toyota 4x4 you see running all terrain? Just a thought.
@@terrencehurley5511, Who gives a shit? Move to the Middle East and enjoy.
Great demonstration of both Bronco & Rnnr capabilities & humble o
Pie moments….As a proud owner of a resto / upgraded 1st gen (88) SR5 ; great to see the “ great grand kids” prowess!
I was impressed and envious of the benefits of a diff lock, a not inexpensive add on that I’m now sold on
Thanks very much for this display of each vehicles skills!
Driving Sports TV makes the videos that we want to watch. That’s why I like this channel so much
I just love my 2019 4Runner trd off road premium, this is my upgrade from a 2013 4Runner sr5 never had any problems, the bronco looks cool and aggressive, and nice features thanks for the video very informative and detailed excellent job.
Mad respect for the videos you are putting out. 👏
I will say the two door Bronco is a nice looking vehicle and I look forward to seeing them out on the trails. Would definately wait a few years to see how they are working out for people over time tho. I think it's great Ford decided to offer a 2 door.
looks like a wannabe wrangler.. the original bronco was so much better looking
This 4runner +$10k in upgrades would be interesting...
I love my 4Runner TRD ORP !
I haven’t have any chance to use craw control, or rear locker on the 4runner…. 4L takes care all the stuff I did, it’ is amazing to see how well it did, and how capable of this vehicle. Glad made the choice on the 4runner.
Are you still having a good experience with the 4runner?
@@neonsloth yes, I am, did some mods, even better lol
@@Faknm Yeah I think im gonna buy one of these soon. Probably a 2011.
Great video, love your channel. I'm recently got 2021 4Runner TRD offroad as well and wanting get new tires in stock size. I see you got Falkin which I'm considering or BF KO2. But Falkin only makes stock size in SL (4 ply) or E1 (10 ply). Which ones did you get? Don't know that I really need 10 ply tire (heavy tire and stiff). But would like little tougher tire as well. I know I can get KO2 in stock size C (6 ply). I live in Utah and they do have lot rocky trails.
You didn't use atrac during the recovery🤔
Responding to something said, "If you are considering a lower cost Bronco you should move up to a Black diamond or above to get the locker". Keep in mind that you can get lockers with the Sasquatch package, along with better suspension and larger tires, and you can put that package on the lowest base Trim, which is another way to go. Databyter
Excellent reviews !
Awsome vid, that was fun !
4 Runners are awesome!
This was literally a comment from 2 days ago. Great job getting the video out so fast! 👏
My bronco is very quiet on the highway. Mine is a 23 outer banks, i test drove both the 4runner and bronco off road prior to buying. The 4 runner was a trd pro and a salesman at Toyota had it as his vehicle. He did make it clear, they werent available and i could only buy the trd off road. I had to be recovered 3 times, the bronco was a 22 black diamond and it went through everything very easily. The toyota salesman actually left me at the trail because he knew he wasnt going to get a sale after that showing. The toyota was very dated, had bad tires and was under powered.
And thank you for this vid, very cool stuff!
Fair test but i do wish you would have steered around the rock/stump . I'll still take ol' reliable until the Ford ages enough to get the first model year bugs out. And that ol' crawl control really rocks it's superiority when it's in sand too as I've seen on some channels here. Just the same, the Bronco is a cool rig for sure. We just dont know the reliability yet it's so new.
Exactly. The T4R hopped right up the hill when you steered around that stump.
Also, he is testing a shorter wheel based 2 door vs the 4 door 4Runner. The 4Runners longer wheel base allowed the front to be past the ruts and the rear to push through and front then pull it up. I think a 4 door comparison would have been more apples to apples comparison
Not really it’s the same engine as the f150. Same transmission as the ranger. These have been around a while.
I’ve been wanting this video. Thanks. As always you do a great job with these off road reviews.
It would be great to see a comparison between kdss and non kdss equipped 4Runners on that same obstacle.
Hmmm 2,7 liters V6 with 330 hp... I can already see that engine last forever.
Now for comparison, my land cruiser 200 with V8 4,6 produces about 306 hp, and my diesel land cruiser Prado produces roughly 180 hp with 3.0 turbo diesel. There's a reason why Toyota deliberately decreases engine power... and that's why my lesser land cruiser (Prado) has 200k km on it at least, (In fact I'm not even sure what the real ODO reading is because I bought it with ODO reading decreased) and still runs like a charm. No hating on other cars, but where I live, I don't think I would own any other vehicle than Toyota, especially one with an outrageous price tag like Bronco :D
It's interesting you didn't even use the Atrack or crawl control during the tow. Of course it didn't work. I've owned Fords and Toyotas, and I know which I'd trust near the arctic circle. Let's see how the Ford stands up in five years.
Agreed-I’ve had my expedition prepared 4 Runner all the way up to the Arctic Circle from Yellowknife,with no issues and -40 almost every night.I’ve done this trip 7 times with 4 different 4 Runners,and zero problems.This is why I’m sticking with Toyota.
Crawl control does nothing when ascending a hill. It's a hill descent feature to control the speed of travel coming down a hill no more.
@@jeraldhogan actually,nothing could further from the truth-crawl control works uphill as well as downhill and also acts as cruise control off road.The system is smarter than you are and can control and detect slippage and spin.
@@irishdefense77 I just researched further and I stand corrected. Thanks.
@@irishdefense77 this is an old system that has been out awhile in the Land Cruiser
The Bronco is cool and all but that Sierra Cosworth shirt. Now that's something.
The Ford Bronco is waaaaaay better… looking.
But even though the high demand for the Bronco, the 4Runner will be stolen long before it has any chance to die.
Ford bronco mall crawler.🤣
@4:55 The TRD PRO wheels are 7" WIDE as opposed to the stock Off-Road wheels that are 7.5" WIDE. The WIDTH of the wheels has nothing to do with the clearance. Both wheels are 17" in diameter, the difference in clearance might come from the all-terrain tires with a higher profile (i.e. 285/70R17 vs 265/70R17).
Great test, thanks! Though it would have been even better with the 4-door version of the Bronco. A shorter wheelbase always has the advantage.
Oh wow, now this is the ultimate smackdown
2 days ago I buried my 4runner to the doors in a flash flood in the so California desert. Mud past the frame put on crawl control in reverse and within 2 minutes I was out(my first time using it).
Had a similar experience with our 2019 4Runner TRD Off Road on a super muddy mesa in Arizona after a winter rain. Nothing worked until I switched the crawl control on. It slowly managed to get us out and on our way.
Crawl control sounds like hell, but works wonders.
I will stick with my TRD OR with KDSS. BTW, had the A-Trac or CC been engaged during the tow comparison, the TRD would have walked right up that hill just like the Bronco did with its front lockers engaged. Neither could do it with out front wheels helping. So for all those forgetting that 1 fact, there you have it. Stump or no stump, the front wheel assistance would have towed that Bronco up just as easily. ;)
Superb testing. Really enjoyed watching how thorough they were. I love the look of the Bronco, especially on those huge tyres. Reminds me of a Tonka toy! 😎
What was the average MPG of the Bronco on your way to the mountain.
First thing first. I love your t-shirt, truly a legend!
Second, love your videos. If you ever come to Sweden I will lend you my Toyota Land Cruiser 150 Prado with off-road package if you want to test it out. It’s a 2,8 diesel with a six speed auto. Running Continental all terrains. Ready for you to test out!
Do you recommend installing the TRD pro shocks for better handiling on road? A firmer more responsive feel. I just delivery of my 2021 trd off road premium super white. I have one complain, and that's the nose dive and body roll under breaking or lane switching. When compared to my Limmited model. It's night and day.
My 2021 TRD Pro dives and rolls the same way. The fox shocks make for a super soft suspension. After driving my 06 Tacoma for 15 years, the Pro feels like driving a Lincoln.
How do you like the Falken tires? I don't do heavy off reading, but I want a more reliable tire for beach-going and when it snows. I do the majority of driving as a daily work car. I'm a realtor. Any advice and feedback would be helpful. I currently have the stock tires that came with the 2021 4 runner venture "Bridgestone Dueler H/T."
The stock Dueler's are horrible. The Falken Wildpeak AT3Ws are my favorite do-anything tire today. (Tomorrow that may change.)
i have a trd off road, the new bronco sasquatch was parked next to me i was shocked in the size difference, the 4runner is no small truck, but next to the bronco it looks small. the bronco def looks good. but i will stick to my 4runner
This is a great series of tests.
Great video! Love these offroad challenges! That Bronco has gotta be kidding tho.. designed from scratch for offroad and the best it can do is sit there and spin the loose wheels! Holy crap.. thanks Ford.