Jeep Wrangler 4xe Rubicon vs Toyota 4Runner TRD Pro vs MUD! Which Off-Road SUV is Best? PT.2

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  • In the second part in our series comparing the Toyota 4Runner TRD Pro and Jeep Wrangler 4xe Rubicon we take the SUVs though our muddy trail, the Left Hook.
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  • @matthewputnam7486
    @matthewputnam7486 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I came to the comments to complain about the lack of vehicle knowledge by the otherwise excellent presenter--and then my heart was warmed to see the TH-cam community had already taken him to task in every way.
    Thank you TH-cam🤣

  • @nict5828
    @nict5828 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I own 3 4 runners, 1997, 2004, 2015. Still driving my 1997, it has 325K and counting.

    • @agaldona
      @agaldona ปีที่แล้ว +1

      4Runners and Jeeps are not the same, we all know he hates when someone "talks" bad about the jeep, he is a Jeep guy. He saw the Jeep crashing test and he flipped the F-out, deeply inside he hates 4Runners 🥴. I have a jeep and I have a TRD, I like both but I like to overland better with the 4Runner.

  • @customimprovement
    @customimprovement 2 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    4Runner off-road , springs, shocks and TKOs. That’s all you need. My last Jeep was in the shop more than it was on the road.

    • @jesseashmore8426
      @jesseashmore8426 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      It amazes me how many people switch from Jeep to Toyota because of reliability issues, but dudes with Wranglers will tell you it's never failed them. They refuse to admit they break constantly. Thank you for your honesty.

    • @user-rw2dr5my1s
      @user-rw2dr5my1s 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I’m about to switch from a Jeep to a Toyota. The Jeep had so many issues, I spent more time fixing the issues than actually driving it.

    • @jesseashmore8426
      @jesseashmore8426 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@user-rw2dr5my1s My dad had a Jeep and it blew a head gasket with just over 100k. He traded it in for a Tacoma. He finally listened to me!

    • @user-rw2dr5my1s
      @user-rw2dr5my1s 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jesseashmore8426 never again, everyone told me not to get a Jeep and I didn’t listen, hopefully I can sell my Jeep and get a Toyota soon.

    • @xxwagyllamabootyxx8554
      @xxwagyllamabootyxx8554 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@user-rw2dr5my1s no matter what even with trade in it should hold a decent value till depending on shape and year you could get 30%-40% in todays market

  • @drjasonwhittaker
    @drjasonwhittaker 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    You didn’t do your homework on the multi-traction terrain control and how to use them.

  • @KosmicHRTRacingTeam
    @KosmicHRTRacingTeam 3 ปีที่แล้ว +277

    This is a weird video. Kind of expect someone experienced enough to make videos like this to use 4 Lo and the appropriate rear lockers and off road mode. This video plays like a city slicker getting in a Toyota for the first time and trying to off road. Then let’s address the tires and tire pressures. This video says more about the operator than it does that ability of the vehicle.

    • @pro4xtrdpro376
      @pro4xtrdpro376 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Facts. Knows nothing of the MTS or atrac

    • @earnesttrent3119
      @earnesttrent3119 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      To not know you have to be in 4low to engage the rear locker in a Toyota is ridiculous. If your gonna do videos like this you need to know the vehicle.

    • @pro4xtrdpro376
      @pro4xtrdpro376 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@earnesttrent3119 true

    • @lukestoyz
      @lukestoyz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Did you notice he went straight for the 4low in the Jeep? Biased much

    • @IBtrollinyoufool
      @IBtrollinyoufool 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah I kept playing back the video and couldn’t figure out why he just didn’t go 4LO. 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @jneptune1540
    @jneptune1540 3 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    I ll take the 4 runner. That keep will be in the shop in 3 years for major repairs with problems at every or every other year.
    That Toyota will be good for 15 years/ 200k. With just oil changes.
    Had 2 Jeep’s. Never again

    • @ivands7249
      @ivands7249 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      That 4 runner will go more than 200k miles easily without any major issue

    • @Rockybalboa541
      @Rockybalboa541 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      200k is low for the 4runners. Good luck getting that out of a hybrid Jeep

    • @icyfrost101
      @icyfrost101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Okay scotty no but for real 4runner will last longer than a jeep any day

    • @jneptune1540
      @jneptune1540 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Last longer… I don’t know about that. Less maintenance, for sure. The jeep won’t rust out though.

    • @Rockybalboa541
      @Rockybalboa541 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@jneptune1540 you are in the bottom 1 percent if you think the jeep will last longer than a 4Runner

  • @andyham6094
    @andyham6094 3 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    The 4Runner isn’t saying trust me I got this, it’s saying put me in 4lo and lock my rear locker and then put the mts in mud mode. It would’ve went right through that little bit of mud even with the stock tires.

    • @seabiscuit726142
      @seabiscuit726142 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      4Low won't help much in slippery situations. More torque applied to the wheels will make them spin easier. That's good for very steep inclines and rock crawling.

    • @toddmayta7615
      @toddmayta7615 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      A-trac with rear locker is the bomb. It's almost like having front and rear lockers.

    • @offroadkings379
      @offroadkings379 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Can confirm. I have this year's TRD Pro, I can get through any of these obstacles with ease.

    • @vikkzx
      @vikkzx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@offroadkings379 I have a 2018 4runner and I can plus one you with the a Trac and locker. It's almost impossible to get stuck

    • @pro4xtrdpro376
      @pro4xtrdpro376 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@toddmayta7615 it’s OP. most reviewers don’t even talk about it. Which is annoying as hell

  • @crsantin
    @crsantin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +209

    You won’t beat a Jeep off road. I’d take the 4Runner though as a better all round vehicle. Better tires on the 4Runner should do the trick.

    • @timber543
      @timber543 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Plus the reliability

    • @blackgang1842
      @blackgang1842 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Jeep weak

    • @alecgrosk7188
      @alecgrosk7188 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      @@blackgang1842 yeah I don’t trust anything coming from a Chrysler factory

    • @joestewart5692
      @joestewart5692 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      carlo are you kidding me? take your jeep to moab utah.. every tacoma will be yanking that jeep up every thing.. no wheel base on a jeep.

    • @deejayimm
      @deejayimm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@joestewart5692 4 door wrangler has a truck like wheelbase, which in my neck of the woods is bad.

  • @james2042
    @james2042 3 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    Doing this in 4 high was a disservice to both, you're in mud, this is why they have 4 low, use it. The systems aren't needed in 4 high because 4 high is for high speed offroading where precision control and super low end torque isn't needed, like actual well defined dirt trails and snow if it's bad enough. I'd rather my vehicle have to be in second gear in 4 low than first in 4 high to get the speed I want

    • @michaelm9871
      @michaelm9871 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yeah... Them not switching into 4 low at any point didn't make a lot of sense. The biggest factor here was the driver.

    • @chrisguapo69
      @chrisguapo69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'd have to add that most Multi-terrain functions only work in 4Lo. I think only mud/sand features work in 4Hi. Also, ATRAC using brake pressure to control wheelspin and transfer power to the wheels with traction, MTS uses a combination of brake pressure and power regulation so that's why you had a slight loss in power. On an incline you should have just used ATRAC on 4Lo and if that doesn't work power-on the rear locker (which you can only do in 4Lo). MTS selection is best on relatively level ground when you're not in an incline and a dead stop.

    • @james2042
      @james2042 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@chrisguapo69 yeah exactly. But they're reviewers, you think they ever know what they're doing?

    • @chrisguapo69
      @chrisguapo69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@james2042 Yeah, it was hilariously rediculously, entertaining watching him commenting on how the truck "isn't doing what he want's it to do." LOL!!!

    • @james2042
      @james2042 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chrisguapo69 Like I just wish that in mud/deep snow modes it would auto enable 4 low, like force these reviewers to use the truck right lmao

  • @ericsly3469
    @ericsly3469 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Saw a 4xe in the wild for the first time yesterday, the guy driving it knew not much about it, but it was cool to see

    • @jeremy8715
      @jeremy8715 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Typical of most buyers, unfortunately.

  • @crisbeveridge
    @crisbeveridge 3 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    MTS is a terrain specific application of the A-TRAC system. Mud, Sand, Dirt is the only MTS mode available in high range; it allows more wheel spin than the other modes. You can’t lock the diff in high either. Why not put it in 4 low and take advantage of the vehicles off-road tools?

    • @andyham6094
      @andyham6094 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Cause he’s a jeep fanboy. Always tries to make toyotas look bad just like tfl used to do before everybody called them out on it in the comments and now they pretend like they love toyotas just for the views. Why not use the mts atrac rear locker and OF COURSE 4LO!!! Why even review a trd pro if you aren’t going to use its features. Might as well reviewed an sr5. So many reviewers don’t do vehicles justice by using its certain special features in off road comparisons and tests.

    • @PeakDecline
      @PeakDecline 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is a serious limitation of Toyota's setup. Needing to use 4 low to lock your rear? WHY? A-TRAC will never be a substitute for a real locker either no matter the situation. It's also a total joke what Toyota thinks is appropriate tires for their top off-road spec. I'm really, really hoping none of this nonsense translates to the new Tundra. That'll be a serious disappointment. But I still can't believe you can't even get a rear locker in a Tundra. Let alone a rear + front as every serious off-road vehicle should have as standard equipment.

    • @charlesgibbs1071
      @charlesgibbs1071 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@fabulousoffroaddesigns5080 manual transfer case shifter in Ted's

    • @charlesgibbs1071
      @charlesgibbs1071 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      TRD that is

    • @useryggfdcc
      @useryggfdcc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@andyham6094 I went off-road up in Mattawa doing the WMAT trails. When doing one of the black trails, 93 the rear end was scraping a big rock. Then when doing down another big one, I knew body damage will happen now. Luckily my 2021 Tacoma TRD 4X4 OFFROAD Premium was already in 4low. I decided to backup and try a different angle of the massive rock. Selected MTS "rock and dirt" and selected crawl control.
      The Taco crawled back beautifully.
      In big mud puddles it performed excellent too.
      Something the modes don't select the first time but playing with it, it performed flawless.
      Good tires is a MUST too.
      BFG KO2 265/75/16 on my Taco.

  • @jameskocks4734
    @jameskocks4734 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    as an owner of a 2005 4runner with the V8 i am proud to have one.

  • @DuaneCaldwell
    @DuaneCaldwell 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Really shows the difference in tires.

  • @boneskull4207
    @boneskull4207 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Both great vehicles for off road but you hit the nail on the head with the tires and driver. Nothing against your diving abilities just the point made makes the difference. Thanks for sharing and God bless yall

  • @philharris4504
    @philharris4504 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    The Nitto’s on the 4Runner are the main problem. If both vehicles had the same tires, it would’ve been a much closer result. Tires are a huge factor off road.

    • @IWH8023
      @IWH8023 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Agree!

    • @robertcarr4986
      @robertcarr4986 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Yes I totally agree. Testing offroad vehicles with different tires doesn't seem right.

    • @collectivevids5188
      @collectivevids5188 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That’s true. But they are testing the vehicles how they come, stock.

    • @RagingBad
      @RagingBad 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      How close of a result you want? They basically performed the same, the Toyota with better tires and a real driver would've raped the Jeep

    • @philharris4504
      @philharris4504 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RagingBad Exactly. That’s what I was trying to say.

  • @8bitboss929
    @8bitboss929 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I’ve always been a Jeep guy because my family owns a keep dealership. I have always have felt that they were the Kings off-road but I think that Toyotas are as close as you’re going to get to a jeep off-road but the reliability and how long they last without breaking down it’s just in a whole Nother level. If you want something that’s going to be dependable and fun get the Toyota if you have the money to fix your vehicle all day get the jeep. Just my opinion

    • @vincesmith764
      @vincesmith764 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That,s a fact. I been mechanicing all my life.jeeps are short and fun .like a harly..4runner can be used everyday...trouble free.

    • @srm6130
      @srm6130 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      As someone who works in automotive you stole this paragraph directly from my brain! Lol!
      I love the look of jeeps but couldn’t fathom signing my life away on one when I could sleep easy knowing a toyota will last forever

    • @RocknOverlanding
      @RocknOverlanding ปีที่แล้ว

      My ‘99 4Runner is getting close to 450000 on the odo - motor is still original, just routine maintenance- how many Jeeps can say that?? I rest my case….

    • @Michael-dj9zq
      @Michael-dj9zq 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Keep Dealership ?
      Try proofreading
      Unbelievable

    • @sillyboy32
      @sillyboy32 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Douche

  • @brucelmnop2043
    @brucelmnop2043 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I expected the Jeep to kick ass... but.... it’s a Fiat Chrysler ... say no more

  • @scottfast03
    @scottfast03 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Gotta learn how to use the Atrak system in 4Lo. It would have got you unstuck guaranteed. It’s low speed not flooring it to blast through it. It works amazing.

  • @jestervh1
    @jestervh1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    You CAN lock the rear diff in 4H in the Rubicon! Once in 4H you have to turn off traction control, then hold down traction control button again for 5 seconds so stabilitrac turns off as well. Then press off road + and it will let you lock rear.
    I have one so I have researched and tried it, it works!!! Love the videos!!!!!!

    • @willrector9716
      @willrector9716 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No way! You made my day! Thx

    • @joestewart5692
      @joestewart5692 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      if you turn off trc. cntrl. then hold trac. ctrl for 5 seconds then adjust the vehicles clock to am instead of pm. then... roll down passenger window and hold your breath 4 8 seconds...give or take 1 second.. then push break pedal down for 2 seconds then.. hold on phone

    • @rhinohorn99
      @rhinohorn99 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joestewart5692 🤣🤣🤣

    • @scottromero4004
      @scottromero4004 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@joestewart5692 still can't lock the 4runner in 4hi so...

    • @michaeljordan6090
      @michaeljordan6090 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I can lock my rear locker in my Gladiator Mohave with off road plus mode, up to 40 miles per hour.

  • @jordanfrangquist1474
    @jordanfrangquist1474 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bring back these two exact trucks in 10 years and ask which one you’d want

  • @johnmeeboer6044
    @johnmeeboer6044 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I love both trucks but The big difference between the jeep and the 4 runner is after five years the 4 runner will not of broken down.

    • @Michael_ryan91
      @Michael_ryan91 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In wisconsin the frame will be rusted in half tho. Iv seen my share of tacos break in half on lifts.

  • @coloradomallcrawlers
    @coloradomallcrawlers 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Jeep’s traction control is quite good. I get the idea of turning it off, but I think it would make that situation even easier in 4 high. I use to be impressed with it when I wheeled in the east. The 4XE is a sweet Jeep! Great video!

  • @Ramblin_Rob
    @Ramblin_Rob 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Good video. I will say it appeared the attempt at slow speed through the mud and uphill in the 4Runner was a lesson learned as it seemed you matted the Jeep through that section.

  • @flannelfred
    @flannelfred 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Jeep looks great congratulations on the win….I am still buying the Toyota. It just comes down to trust and knowing when I turn the key the Toyota is going to fire up and get me and my family home.

    • @kenstrickland6534
      @kenstrickland6534 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'm with you on that. Can't beat reliability. I picked up the 2020 4runner adventure. I was going to go with the pro. But I wanna put a small lift like a 3 or 4 inch and some more aggressive tires. Didn't see the point in paying for the pro and lifting it up. The difference between mine and the pro is suspension. I have been to the beach and in 2 wheel drive I got it stuck the put it in 4 wheel drive and got it down to the frame. Put it in crawl control and it got out on its own. It's a peace of mind that I know my wife can take it anywhere and not get stuck. And make it home. Toyota 4Runner was the best choice for us.

    • @RagingBad
      @RagingBad 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      There wasn't any "wins" the Runner did the trail as good as the Jeep, this guy just hate Toyotas

  • @nacho-man1063
    @nacho-man1063 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    4Runner & land cruiser are the world best suv. There is nothing out there that it will outlast these vehicles.
    Jeeps are fun to have and unique style makes them fun to drive. But sooooo unreliable.

  • @ragnarocking
    @ragnarocking 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This completely changed my mind about the 4XE.
    Great review.

  • @artemioarevalo4335
    @artemioarevalo4335 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like how u are giving us great details and amazing communication. Keep it up.

  • @rommelrivera1186
    @rommelrivera1186 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video! The Nitto Terra Grapplers suck. Agree with you totally at 7:09. Can't wait to replace mine with KO2's. I'll also take them one size up to 275. Thx!

  • @sarrum7696
    @sarrum7696 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Had to pause, your excitement is infectious! Love it! 😆 I feel like I’m there with you, because I’m getting excited. Lol 😆

    • @robertyoung8289
      @robertyoung8289 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      GAY!!

    • @TruckKing
      @TruckKing  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yay! Thank you!

    • @TruckKing
      @TruckKing  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Are you coming out to the Truck King audience Robert?

  • @Gemini_0815
    @Gemini_0815 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. I like the emotions he is showing. What an authentic chunk of a guy.

  • @platinumempire5709
    @platinumempire5709 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Why not use the mts atrac rear locker and OF COURSE 4LOW? is this a trd pro or sr5 you are reviewing

    • @pro4xtrdpro376
      @pro4xtrdpro376 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Sr5 still has atrac

    • @RagingBad
      @RagingBad 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Because he wanted the Jeep to look good

    • @IBtrollinyoufool
      @IBtrollinyoufool 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      4RUNNER owners know this video is suspect

  • @UtahNick71
    @UtahNick71 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Jeeps have priced themselves out of my range. They aren't reliable enough to spend $60K on.

    • @ColoradoStreetboarding
      @ColoradoStreetboarding 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well said. I’d say a 10k price difference isn’t much of a side by side comparison.

  • @KTMcaptain
    @KTMcaptain 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The gladiator has off-road modes. In 4hi the off road plus button gives sand/Baja mode and in 4lo it gives rock crawling mode. It’s weird and you have to read the manual to really know that. But I can lock my rear diff in 2hi/front diff in 4hi and unlock the sway bar whenever thanks to a simple plug in called a tazer JL mini.

  • @Wrangzilla
    @Wrangzilla 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ive had 5 Wranglers since 1997. Quite a few other vehicles during this time as week including a 4Runner. My current is a 2020 JLUR 3.6 sitting on 37’s. So that shows my bias. However, I love 4Runners as well and might be my next vehicle along side with my Rubi since it’s paid for. Now I have a 2door MINI to put around in and keep miles off my Rubi.

  • @c.rodriguez7976
    @c.rodriguez7976 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Should’ve used 4LO/Rear Locker on the TRD Pro.

    • @CarnutMM
      @CarnutMM 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Along with ATRAC

    • @bellasky83
      @bellasky83 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Then he could've locked front and rear on the Jeep. No contest as to how much better the Jeep is off road. He was basically thrashing the heck out of the yota to get through. Then barely made it up the hill. Jeep said what mud/hill.

    • @c.rodriguez7976
      @c.rodriguez7976 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@bellasky83 I've owned both brands. Quality of construction, reliability, and durability are superior on Toyota units. Their off road capabilities are proven globally every day as work vehicles. Wranglers break a lot and are oil leakers. What's up with Jeep's fluids seals?

  • @carsandchronos
    @carsandchronos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    4Runner is the easy choice. I have owned both, still own the 4Runner. It’s not only as capable off road as the Wrangler, but it is more dependable and far more comfortable as an everyday vehicle.
    Oh, and you can haul plenty of cargo in the 4 Runner

    • @nict5828
      @nict5828 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      True to dat

    • @Y100sport
      @Y100sport 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      best reliability.

  • @bobmathew3380
    @bobmathew3380 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is an excellent channel.
    Keep
    Up the work

  • @davidcarrico3385
    @davidcarrico3385 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What did you feel regarding the extra weight in the 4xe? It’s low (under rear bench) and actually helps get close to 50/50 weight distribution. I’ve heard it actually improves the Rubicon ride in some cases(I have a 4xe, but am not familiar enough with the gas only Rubicon to compare). Extra weight is generally a negative but wondering about what you noticed while driving/off-roading?

  • @89jmcfar
    @89jmcfar 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome footage! Looks like a great place to have a lot of fun.

  • @DefiantOffroad
    @DefiantOffroad 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This video proves that knowledge and ability on a given subject are not needed to be a TH-cam personality.

    • @TruckKing
      @TruckKing  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Speaking from experience eh?

  • @N8RTH
    @N8RTH 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    No doubt my 2020 4R Pro feels old. But I don’t worry about breaking down. Or waiting for it to do something weird. It’s just what it is. And I love it for that.

    • @gptint1
      @gptint1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That's what no Jeep person wants to talk about is long term durability, all around.

    • @SanctumOfDreams
      @SanctumOfDreams 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gptint1 My JL has seen heavy on and off road abuse. Scraping, slamming and rev limiter bouncing. I've had 0 issues. Not even a recall. My buddy bought a tacoma and it lasted half a year of on road commutes before it needed a new battery, new alternator and new transmission. Times have changed a lot in 15 years or so.

  • @KMBlaster
    @KMBlaster 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I bought a New FJ40 in 1983, Toyota put what I would consider street tires on there trucks and SUVs even back then. Same as my 2020 4Runner Venture. I wish Toyota would give you tire options. Would love to see a side by side comparison with the same tires on both vehicles

  • @shughes911
    @shughes911 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I’d like to see what the new off-road outback can do on these trails? Can you get one to try out? I personally don’t think it would do so well but would be fun to watch

  • @trevorhowell6575
    @trevorhowell6575 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Finally the Jeep electric review I was waiting for, I put it off till today. So happy you compared it to the 4 Runner. I think they are a direct competition, but to make things interesting it would be nice to see a Defender against these 2 in a side by side competition...

    • @yourlame9795
      @yourlame9795 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you trust that electric jeep you haven’t owned a Chrysler/fiat product in a long time lol

  • @mervinmanalaysay152
    @mervinmanalaysay152 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just traded in my 2019 4runner trd pro for rubicon 4xe. My 4runner felt under powered specially going up hills. Lovin my new rubicon 4xe.

  • @IssaqAl-Ahmed
    @IssaqAl-Ahmed 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Not going to lie, the second I heard the intro music I thought I mis-clicked a Matt's Off-road Recovery video lol. Great vid!

  • @denisbrisebois7658
    @denisbrisebois7658 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    You hit a good point Steve ... off-roading in a silent vehicle might just be better to see some wildlife as you drive those trails in the woods !!!
    Great video as always !!!

    • @ksavv196
      @ksavv196 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I still feel like wildlife will hear you with all that mud being ran through and water.

    • @LSX01Nation
      @LSX01Nation 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good point!

  • @johnstrand2247
    @johnstrand2247 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was some goo. Great video!

  • @Sintijacs
    @Sintijacs ปีที่แล้ว

    A true off-road channel, not many out there. Cheers from Latvia.

  • @roblowndes7829
    @roblowndes7829 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @Truck King, in the Jeep coming back down the hill & through the mud, you mentioned you might have gotten hung up on a log but I didn't see a log. Did you hear the thump or feel it or do you think the Select Speed in 4lo enabled the locked rear diff? If not, then that could be why the Jeep "paused" on you as only one rear tire was pushing. Also, if it was locked, then perhaps the higher speed or RPM of the locked rear diff coming down that hill cut out to protect itself thus pausing your progress. Either way, the Jeep made it look easier but that was most likely due to the difference in tires. Thanks for doing this awesome content!

  • @piskypositivo
    @piskypositivo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, this was really well done. Great video!!

    • @TruckKing
      @TruckKing  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you very much!

  • @kennethm6931
    @kennethm6931 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a Jeep fan boy.

  • @javierlugo259
    @javierlugo259 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent Video Brother, please keep up the good work.....

  • @chrisa7832
    @chrisa7832 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    For me because I live in michigan reliability is my priority so I would pick toyota, but I like the jeep more

  • @jeremy8715
    @jeremy8715 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    It’s the “off-road” tires on the 4Runner that sucks. 6:41

    • @tundraspecialops
      @tundraspecialops 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I was just about to comment, why are they running this test with different tires??

    • @mikefoehr235
      @mikefoehr235 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I like Duratracs

    • @markray8629
      @markray8629 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@tundraspecialops I believe they are just running w/e comes from factory on both vehicles.

    • @rocksjoshua
      @rocksjoshua 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      They’re literally all terrains, the Jeep having mud tires from the factory gives it a huge advantage in this test. I would like to see these 2 vehicles on the same tires, would make the test much more equal.

    • @tundraspecialops
      @tundraspecialops 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@rocksjoshua agreed

  • @entreptiles
    @entreptiles 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Something therapeutic about watching these ❤️

  • @mikewright2858
    @mikewright2858 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The KO2's are better IMO ... I have the Nittos on my 21 Pro but had KO2s on my 2016 ORP ... Ko2s FTW. All day, every day. The 4R with those tires is a tank.

    • @offroadkings379
      @offroadkings379 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed. I have KO2s on my 21 pro and the truck is unstoppable. I've been through four feet of snow acting as a plow for other Runners in our convoy.

  • @sentiencepsn2714
    @sentiencepsn2714 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As a Canadian expat: I miss a lot about Canada. I do not miss the black flies. Kudos to Dad.

  • @Jonatron503
    @Jonatron503 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’m loving my 4xe!! I’m actually happy that Ford is having so many delays. It forced me to cancel my Bronco Sport reservation and guided me towards the 4xe. I now don’t have to worry about gas for my daily drives (90% of what I’ll be doing) and then still have a badass off-roader for summer! 🥰🥰🥰

    • @tylergibson6418
      @tylergibson6418 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Bronco Sport wasn’t delayed whatsoever and is already mass produced. You’re probably talking about the full sized Bronco.

    • @Jonatron503
      @Jonatron503 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tylergibson6418 Bronco Sports have been delayed if they’re fully loaded (badlands and all options). This might be related to location as well. The only ones sold on the west coast are either first editions or lower trims with less features (ie. no moonroof). My preorder was only placed in early October, but is constantly being pushed back. Ford keeps dodging my refund request LoL. At least I know that I’ll never invest in a Ford in the future now. 😂

    • @tylergibson6418
      @tylergibson6418 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Jonatron503 That’s weird. My wife had no trouble getting a fully optioned badlands at all. Maybe it is location based.

    • @robloxcreator4376
      @robloxcreator4376 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      wait for reliability issues to pop up.

  • @madcratebuilder
    @madcratebuilder 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Tires, tires, tires.

  • @robsolf
    @robsolf 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Somehow you guys manage to get to every car wash just before I do. :) Thanks for the vid, guys!

  • @tobyhowell1868
    @tobyhowell1868 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Picking up my 2020 TRD Pro tomorrow! 😁

  • @brianflynn6421
    @brianflynn6421 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the show, ty

  • @Ww8.3
    @Ww8.3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Gunned it in the jeep and drove like a Nancy with the Toyota. That’s the difference

    • @chrisa7832
      @chrisa7832 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's why I won't subscribe there fan boys

    • @yourlame9795
      @yourlame9795 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah kinda unfortunate, I like both but he’s definitely a Jeep fan boy, it was a biased video.

  • @jesseashmore8426
    @jesseashmore8426 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Its simple, really. If all you do is off-road and you want the most capable stock vehicle for such activities, go Jeep. If you're buying a daily driver that occasionally goes off road, go Toyota. I would hands down go Toyota but no way I'd be caught dead in that color. Save the money and buy TRD Off-Road, put your own 2" lift and tires, and get a good color.

    • @RagingBad
      @RagingBad 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just don't buy a Jeep period if you want to come back from the trails

    • @yourlame9795
      @yourlame9795 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Keep smoking that good shit lol

    • @jesseashmore8426
      @jesseashmore8426 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@yourlame9795 ???

  • @samleeroy5638
    @samleeroy5638 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im pretty sure hybrid with a gas engine generator is the future for overland/off road. I think they also need to make plugging solar to the roof easy and they are gold.

  • @johnkaper1129
    @johnkaper1129 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, easy to see that you liked KO2s on the Jeep. Have you ever driven on the Falken Wildpeak AT3/W and if so how do you like them as compared to the KO2s? Tks

    • @TruckKing
      @TruckKing  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      We have - they are similar

  • @shughes911
    @shughes911 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review!

    • @TruckKing
      @TruckKing  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad you enjoyed it

  • @thomasnorton1998
    @thomasnorton1998 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Those NIttos are pretty much like highway slicks. K02s on both to truly compare the off-road capability

  • @davidgintz652
    @davidgintz652 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I’ll take the Jeep any day. I have a 2 door jeep rubicon 4x4 with 37 tsp supper swampers. There’s no stopping it. It’s a 2019.

    • @northerntoyota7584
      @northerntoyota7584 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Another 5 years and there’ll be lots stopping it 😂

    • @davidgintz652
      @davidgintz652 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@northerntoyota7584 LOL!!!! True😂😂😂😂

    • @gs98999
      @gs98999 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@northerntoyota7584 Simple solution, get a new one, leave 5 year old plus vehicles to poor people? 😬🤷‍♂️

    • @joskjj3625
      @joskjj3625 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@northerntoyota7584 I’m a huge Toyota fan but comments like yours is the reason why Toyota fans have a bad reputation, always acting superior with reliability, reliability and reliability

  • @eddiekowalczyk8151
    @eddiekowalczyk8151 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My wife&I had new 2015 jeeps..nothing but transmission & electrical problems that the dealership could never solve the problems with less than 30k on them, so we traded them in for 4runner off road..35k later..not one issue with either 4runner..never going back!! Been in 2 ft snow storm's, 1.5 feet of water in backwoods..never missed a beat.

  • @Big88Country
    @Big88Country 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    These tests are all about the tires! If the tires don't grab, you get stuck! Wheels spinning and holding the mud never works. Get some good mudders, and that 4runner will go wherever ya want it to! From this, I'm staying away from the Nittos! On the Rubi E, it's all good until a battery goes bad! Also, I'll stick with the old gas jeep with the open headers, love that music!! Enjoyed it though!

  • @photobuzz
    @photobuzz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    At around 2:35, you say the 4Runner is in 4 hi, in MTS (sand) mud and the rear diff locked. I have a 2018 4runner TRD Off Road Premium and the owner's manual states that you can only lock the rear diff in low range. Is this correct?

  • @joshmengle2950
    @joshmengle2950 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can lock the jeep in the rear in 4H. Traction control off until it beeps and push the button for rear locker

  • @robertd57i989
    @robertd57i989 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man this video looks like so much fun. I need to find some places near me that have trails

  • @ChrisParayno
    @ChrisParayno 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As you said, on paper jeep seems to win the off road race already but we already know, its different story when implemented in the long run. Will the hybrid last longer then a year? A weekend? What'll it cost if there is a "minor" complication?

  • @janhorak360
    @janhorak360 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am glad that I have old truck and old school tech, without all the electrical stuff.

  • @Estuardino71
    @Estuardino71 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    5:35 That's exactly what's going on, "you don't know "

  • @larryborn1082
    @larryborn1082 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I would ask for tests with the SAME tires. Trying to compare in the mud with tires so different is almost useless. Also, like nearly every test involving a Jeep, if you have to live with the vehicle day to day the Jeep loses all the time. As soon as the Bronco becomes widely available the Jeep becomes even less relevant.

    • @3RiverArmsAndAutos
      @3RiverArmsAndAutos 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would like to see that test also, but to it is also good to see the vehicles perform how they come from the factory.

  • @michaeltca3103
    @michaeltca3103 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Stephen, for cottage life and dirt/stone roads, AND long road trips to Florida, what would you take: F150 tremor or other pickup, Ford Expedition, or 4Runner etc?

    • @TruckKing
      @TruckKing  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      F-150 Tremor is a great choice. Seriously good off-road and still a smooth-riding quiet on-road truck.

    • @michaeltca3103
      @michaeltca3103 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TruckKing ...we were thinking that too. Excellent decision sir.

    • @michaeltca3103
      @michaeltca3103 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TruckKing One last question - if it were for you, would you go V8 Tremor with all that good old V8 simplicity, or Ecoboost with that torque but with complex turbos. This would possibly be a long term vehicle for us.

  • @teddonley9594
    @teddonley9594 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just curious as to why you don't use low range and lockers in these tests ?

  • @coryernewein
    @coryernewein 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good video guys!!!

    • @TruckKing
      @TruckKing  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you enjoyed it

  • @manlillab
    @manlillab 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    great video, great cars. but all i saw was a decade old (proven) design with 100 less hp, 200 less torque, shitty tires, all offroad tools shut off, in 4 wheel drive only, and no electric help pretty much went down and back the same trail as Jeep's latest toy - with a little bit more effort. or did everyone see something different?

    • @trenton.tchannel1810
      @trenton.tchannel1810 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m pretty sure a regular rubicon could do the same. Toyota needs to remodel and update the 4 runner. It’s reliable but they won’t sell good because it’s drivetrain it’s ancient compared to what’s new. With more electric trucks coming soon Jeep will already have some experience with a hybrid set up on the trails. Toyota will lose money if they don’t keep up

    • @ewan_mclean
      @ewan_mclean 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@trenton.tchannel1810 Toyota is a couple of years out from releasing the 6th gen. Chances are, they’ve been working on it for years. 4runners still sell because of their proven reliability, which in part comes from the fact that they’re ancient. With it still being a couple of years away we don’t know much about the drivetrain, but it might as well have a hybrid option.

    • @RagingBad
      @RagingBad 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@trenton.tchannel1810 wtf are you talking about dummy, 4Runners sale great

    • @RagingBad
      @RagingBad 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You saw an extremely biased video of a dude that hates anything Toyota

    • @yourlame9795
      @yourlame9795 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@trenton.tchannel1810 They sell good every year lol do you live on a different planet ?

  • @willrector9716
    @willrector9716 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey great video! I know I gave you some crap about the last mud video..... but hey this was 100% better great job! A little constructive criticism goes a long way! Oh yeah... I'm not Roman lol. .. I should change my profile to that haha

  • @88rushrocks
    @88rushrocks 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I own the 2024 Willy’s and we love it and off road totally awesome and a eye lookers lol

  • @BullionRookie
    @BullionRookie 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    In our family we have both. My 4Runner and my dad’s Rubi. Love them both BUT…. Yeah the Rubi has gone back to the dealership twice for repairs and well what can we say. Toyota reliable as ever.

  • @kingslinky1247
    @kingslinky1247 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Love this channel he really puts it to the test

    • @tundraspecialops
      @tundraspecialops 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      How when the vehicles are using completely different tires and tire types??

    • @kingslinky1247
      @kingslinky1247 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tundraspecialops bro send me a link to where a guy brings a brand new vehicle through these type of trails I’ll gladly watch yhem

  • @johnnymendoza383
    @johnnymendoza383 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dude said that the jeep got caught up with a log😂 nothing was there

  • @kevinblock2307
    @kevinblock2307 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That looked like fun! Except for poor dad with the bugs 😀

  • @R.Nelson
    @R.Nelson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Happy Victoria Day Truck King!!!😃 You guys taken day off?? I did...still had to mow my lawn thou..Warm in Ontario!!🌞This part anyway.. Enjoy the day

  • @Y100sport
    @Y100sport 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    really appreciate if u can test that hybrid mode of the rubicon on those mud. Thanks.

  • @weekendwarrior8179
    @weekendwarrior8179 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Should of used crawl control when you got stuck. That's what it's made for

  • @shadowswordairsofteast
    @shadowswordairsofteast 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Seems like most newer off road vehicles don't let you use the lockers unless you are in 4LO

  • @jcmata92
    @jcmata92 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Working at a jeep dealer 2 out of 7 4XE had the battery replace because of some faulty codes on the display.. after being fix I haven’t seen them back.. overall we still don’t know how realizable they will be.. I know everyone is looking for more gas efficiency but if I had the cash I would be the 6.4L Hemi.. at least for now until the get the electric side down! But the worst engine has to be the 3.0L Diesel engine.. if have one or plan on getting one make sure you get all the warranty possible to cover the powertrain! My personal opinion.. I’m sure not all case are the same.

    • @yourlame9795
      @yourlame9795 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bought the 4xe and had nothing but issues with it finally got it off my hands. I do love my Daytona 392, the chargers , challengers, Durango’s and the track hawks are all Chrysler/fiat have to offer.

  • @arnejahr3531
    @arnejahr3531 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Both are very capable off readers. Nice video

  • @milesb4231
    @milesb4231 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How did the Jeep get stuck on the way back? I think you missed saying you were in 4 Low in BOTH the 4Runner & Jeep on the way down.

  • @matthewmeaux3450
    @matthewmeaux3450 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Why don't you guys get product specialists give you a demonstration before you shoot these videos or better yet, look through the owner's manual!

  • @yellowhammer72
    @yellowhammer72 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    In the videos and comments everyone keeps talking about Nittos vs KO2s. But KO2 is a tire, Nitto is a brand. Which Nittos are you running in this video? Are those the Trail Grapplers or Ridge Grapplers?

  • @runemrick
    @runemrick 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a 2016 Runner and can lock my dif in two or four high. The problem with anything other than the 4Runner is walking out after they break.

  • @ScottyBennitone
    @ScottyBennitone 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I think where the jeep really shines is the 500-750 mile range before fill ups . Thats huge.

    • @davidcarrico3385
      @davidcarrico3385 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      True, but that is only if you can charge multiple times during that tank. For full tank single charge, it’s more like 360 to 400 (Jeep rates it at 400). Just stating that for those that might mis-interpret your post and think they could get 500-750 on a tank during an overlanding trip. They will not. For normal driving it’s great though, and I did get 520 miles on my last tank!