Intel’s DDR5 problem resolved! DDR5 64GB Boot Loop failure Fix. Get the rated speeds of your RAM!
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- Intel has some issues to resolve with their memory compatibility when using 4 sticks of DDR5. Today we are looking at a possible solution until a BIOS update can permanently fix the problem. Take a look at this quick explanation and guide to getting the most from your new memory.
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This problem still exists with z790 boards today - literally been having bios loop for two hours and now it’s fixed thanks to the tips on this clip. Thanks heaps, mate!
Just ordered a z790 board. Which memory did you go with?
Got the z790 board really nice board but if you plan on running xmp it will boot loop. I went with Corsair vengeance 6000
I just build a Z790 Hero. And my DDR5 6000 36-36-36-96 did with a few clicks now 6600Mhz same timings.. at 1.42v ... no error and max performance! ;) Im running 2 sticks.. 2 x 16.. They run GREAT at 6600Mhz 36-36-36-96... I dont know how I can further improve BIOS settings. I have now 60.2ns latency and 102GB sec read and 90 sec write..
@lassekristensen385 just build hero z790 with 5200 mhz dom ram . It blue screened but bios update fixed it just cannot controll rgb .
@@harrysmith5353 I'm having similar issue. Z790-E with g.skill 7200. Bootloop after bootloop all day. I had the PC working for 2 days with random crashes... then something happened and I could't even reinstall windows due to crashing.
Currently changed setting as in video and managed to get installed again but bsods still happening. I am at wits end with this.
Does anyone know what the equivalent setting is for the Gigabyte Aorus Master motherboard?
My situation is different, with all 4 sticks in, and XMP enabled, mine does not boot loop, however, I'm getting continuous BSODs on Windows 11. I'm using Trident Z5s as well, 6000mhz. I'll continue watching to see what your manual timings and goodies are :D
EDIT: I ended up leaving the stock voltages at 1.35 but enabled the "per PMIC". Ran Heaven and Valley for about a half hour and played 2 rounds of 2042 with no issues so far. Where as before, 2042 crashed immediately when jumping into a round.
Did it pass a memtest86?
@@ChromeMagnum, yes, they all passed. It's been quite a while and I think there has been 2 BIOS revisions since. I believe one of them is improvement on DRAM but we will see :D
I’ve got four trident d5s 6000mhz and no cigar for me, went into the loop… with his settings at 1.30 and yours at 1.35 with it set to “per PCIm”
This worked for me also 1.35v per pmic for ddr5 5600mhz memory now stable. Spent a year of straight crashing in games over such a simple change 🙄
Thanks a lot- my Msi z790/i9-13900K - 64GB 5200MHz system was not stable enough to even benchmark it - this problem has been solved. I got the link to this video directly from Corsair support, btw.
For all the people on MSI boards, PER PMIC thing is right above the Voltage settings, it just says Memory Voltage LINKED, so set this to UNLINKED and enter desired voltage in all fields below both in VDD and VDDQ fields.
Kingston Fury RGB DDR5 5600 MHz on MSI Z690 Force WiFi board, latest bios (which has memory fine tuned update). and i9-12900K which is undervolted as well. Just loaded XMP settings, and 1.35V for the voltage. Stable in all the tests...
Before the BIOS update I had so many issues, even with this method here. I had to manually set desired speed, but this in return also messed up the sub timings, so it was not stable, as of the latest BIOS update, as I sad, just XMP and 1.35V UNLINKED voltage and it works.
Hi, any suggest for Kingston FURY KF552C40BBAK2-16 (x2, so total 32 GB), i have problem on settings 5200Mhz, 1.35V seems to high...
@@njuna900 Upgrade BIOS first, that's a start.. after that 1.35V must work, but unlinked, 1.35 for each slot... 5200 is easy to achieve, should work without problems... but for 32 gigs, you should have gotten 2x 16 sticks just to be safe... I get it for 64 as there less 2x 32 kits on the market
@@LevelUPGamingTech HI, thanks for your reply, thanks a lot! i have upgrade the bios with the last firmware, i have TUF GAMING Z690-PLUS with bios 1720.
I had to choise 4 instead of 2 because i preffer use quad channel and not dual
Anyway these RAMs at 1.35 V (unlinked voltage) i dont know where this exactly this setting but i guess it's the same on this video, and on OS have much problems, i guess 1.35 are anyway to HIGH for these rams. my rams profiles are those anyway : • Default (JEDEC): DDR5-4800 CL40-39-39 @1.1V
• XMP Profile #1: DDR5-5200 CL40-40-40 @1.25V
• XMP Profile #2: DDR5-4800 CL38-38-38 @1.1V
@@njuna900 In your cae it's as in the video By Per PMIC setting, I guess it's not stable in your csse... try 4800 but tighten main latencies to 38, should give you pretty much the same results as on 5200
@@LevelUPGamingTech Yes, im stable using XMP Profile #2: DDR5-4800 CL38-38-38 @1.1V with different Voltage, i did as video have explained.
Thank you anyway for your support, i have followed also you :)
I just hope in the futures a new bios update will solve this weird issue...
You legend!! I cant explain to you how many vids and posts steer you down the wrong direction! In saying that though it is so ridiculous we need to manually chamge settings like this to get it running with xmp.
You are the Man !!. Thank you so much. Now my build works flawless at max speed.
This absolutely worked for me. I am running the crosshair x670e hero with 4 sticks of ddr5-6400. I was searching for your solution. You friend, have the best solution to this problem in the internet!
@@jamiethompson2967 Hi man. What memories do you have and what capacity?
It didn't work... I think this is almost it though!
MSI z790 board doesn't have the "sync pmc" setting anywhere I can see (so I can't un-sync it). Closest setting is "link/ unlink" which gives options for voltage for each stick (and the single vdd vddq setting disappears)... tried setting every stick vdd vddq to 1.3... still doesn't work.
Ram is corsair vengeance 5600.
Also tried same with setting the msi "try it" setting to 5200/4800 and still doesn't work.
I can't believe DDR5 is causing this many issues for consumers. DDR5 was rushed and not plug in play as it should have been
Had to do the same thing on my DDR4 X470....
it was already garbage on z690 except for a few kits (corsair didnt work at all for me only g.skill) i hoped amd would be better nope its WORSE >
It's because it's new and 3600mhz is default. but companies are rushing into the unknown at 6000
DDR5 wasn't rushed, but it's implementation by Ram and Motherboard manifacturers was. DDR5 works 100% perfectly fine at THE CPU's designed frequencies. *XMP IS AN OVERCLOCK* , so there's no guarentee you will get it working at that speed as long as the CPU MC is still only rated for 4800MTs, which is currently the case with the latest line of consumer CPUs.
So many people are experiancing issues because of a mix between companies' race for the top with crazy memory and cpu OC clocks out of the box, that just aren't stable aross all bins of cpu, and the consumer's lack of knowlage of what XMP actually is.
Yes XMP normally works with 2 dimms, but the CPU's memory controller isn't designed to support them speeds, so it's hardly surprising issues are popping up everywhere, like when trying to OC not 2 but 4 dimms to >1.5x the CPU's maximum rated MC speed!! Even if the memory seller is rating it at that speed, as it's kind of miss-leading as no CPU manifacturer at the moment will guarantee anywhere near some of these speeds, even for 2 dimms, even if the ram can handle it fine (again DD5 wasn't rushed, it's highly advanced, and is in fact technologically AHEAD of the current CPUs limitations, which is exactly what you want from new tech).
DDR5 is amazing tech, people are just too greedy, and because they see someone with a golden chip and crazy binned dimms hitting like 8000MTs with dual sticks, they expect every set of ram to behave the same way with their CPU even when "doubling" the stress on the MC with a four stick set up. It just doesn't work like this. You have to manage your expectations through understanding some of the limitations with current CPU design when it comes to implementing DD5 ram into a build.
*ANYTHING OVER 4800MTs RUNNING ON DDR5 IS AN OVERCLOCK OF THE PROCESSOR'S MEMORY CHANNEL* The higher you go, and the more sticks you have per channel, the more stress you put the MC controller under, and on some of the less well binning CPU MCs even getting 4800MTs with 4 sticks of unmatched 4800 rated ram can be a challenge! Although tbf that is the worst combination for all variables, it puts things into perspective as far as the limitations of some CPUs memory controllers. It's all about managing expectations, and understanding the limitations of the current supporting technology.
@@DaftFaderMy Asrock board natively detects my DDR5-5200 as "DDR5-2000" from the SPD. Tell me again how all of this isn't a broken hack. Or in other words: How hard can it be to have something like an EEPROM to contain some numbers and have a BIOS read those out without getting utterly confused!?
I had 2x sticks of 32gb DDR5 5200 C40 on my Z790-E - could not use XMP without BSOD.
This recommendation absolutely fixed all my issues 👌👍 gold dust, thank you.
Great work. I have two 32 GB Corsair Vengeance DDR5 5200Mhz for a total of 64 GB (2 x 32). The ram defaulted them to 4000Mhz. When I tried to raise to 5200Mhz, it would not post. I just tried your solution and it worked perfectly.
For what? Wasted money
5200 is a dumb speed to get also because it's more expensive than 4800 but you are still getting micron chips, so you might aswell buy 4800, same performance but a little cheaper
@@heinzletzte.6385 You dont know how much they paid.
I have a i7 12700kf z690-F with 4x ram sticks: 2x adata xpg lancer 5200 mhz and x2 4800mhz Corsair Vengeance, i have mixed rams with different mhz because last year took me 4 months to build the pc, it was very hard to find gpu and other components, had to '' win queues '' to get ram, so after multiple attempts i ended up with 2 different rams. I couldn't find a solution for the DDR5 - XMP1 infinite boot so i did set auto and got default MHZ for 9 months. Today after watching your video and talked to friends last week, I decided to try it out,tthe volt change it didn't fix it but i found the solution: i did xmp-1 , AI OC up , frequency up to 4800mhz instead of 5200 or auto, it works perfectly. So basically the xmp1 setup was automatically set all rams at 5200 causing system being unstable, lowering the 5200 to 4800 and applying ai oc Now i have 4800 in my task manager instead of 3600-4000mhz, plus i can get 5000 aswell, it's a good solution. With XTU and AI OC I increased the CPU performance by an incredible amount . My GPU instead was already Overclocked with MSI afterburner with over 20k on time spy , it's a 3080 ti suprim x.
@Waldherz FeuerClan what do you mean "they"?
To this day this problem continues. Two weeks ago I built a z790-e rog strix and my first option was 16x4 7200mhz ddr sticks, there was no way for it to boot with XMP. It only started if I set them by default to 4800 MHz, I changed the 4 16x4 sticks to two 32x2 Corsair dominator titatinum 6600 MHz sticks and they work perfectly even making them reach 6800 MHz with the factory xmp profile, I advise you not to touch the voltages because if you ruin the ram for that reason, they will not refund your money, you will have to wait for a bios to come out that allows you to have 4 sticks
Can't thank you enough. I was about to give up on XMP when I came across this video. I couldn't believe it POSTed after making those settings. I had tried everything. However, at the default XMP profile, I was failing memtest. I ended up reducing frequency from 5600 to 5200 for it to pass memtest. Still need to stress test but I'm stoked. I'm now running 128GB DDR5 at XMP profile (sort of) haha. Can't thank you enough.
Asus ProArt Z690 wifi board
4 x 32gb g.skill Trident z5 ddr5-5600 30-36-36-36-89 timings (2 kits for a total of 128gb0
i9-13900K CPU
I am having same issue, please help
Intel i9 14900k Crashing / Gigabyte z790 UD AX
I see unexpected crashing issues when I install 4 G.skill Trident Z DDR5 RAM sticks (4000 MT/s) instead of 2 (4800 MT/s).
Some config I have setup:
Performance CPU Clock Ratio: 55
Efficiency CPU Clock Ratio: 42
Extreme Memory Profile: disabled
BIOS is up to date : [F11e]
5600 with 4 sticks has been working since alder lake release. The issue was anything higher than 5600 would fail. Today you can do 6400 with xmp
Your video fixed a problem I spent 3 hours trying to fix. You are a blessing.
Brilliant solution. I was struggling to get my 4 sticks of 7800 working on ASUS Maximus Z790 Hero!
What ram did you use? Bc I got t-force 7200ram and doesn’t help much:(
YOU LEGEND! Purchased 4x48gb Trident Z5 6400mhz cl32 and the xmp was failing. Upping the voltage from 1.35 to 1.4 fixed this and passed the stress test :) Was a bit concerned I needed to power it off twice after 5 minutes of nothing but third boot worked like a charm.
Did you get all the 4 sticks at 6400Mhz?
Never
Thank you. I was scared to go that high with the voltage
I got 2 sets of Gskill f5-6400j3239g32gx2-tz5rk 2x32 kit. After I raise the voltage to 1.435 and follow this video, I got one set of the kit running with XMP I. Going to see if 2 kits can work together with XMP I.
@@rikka0_059yo bud did you tried finally 4x sticks and working smoothly? I got 4x16 7800mhz tomorrow gonna try upper voltage thing. Wanna know ur situation
As many others have said this fix has solved the boot loop issue! I was banging my head the wall for a month trying to figure out what was going on. Just built a new pc, 13900k with ASUS Z790H motherboard. I thought I had doa components so I replaced just about everything but of course it was still in a loop. What messed me up was I pulled the cmos battery out to restore bios settings but it was still stuck in a loop. I guess with this board even after pulling battery it will not restore bios, this can only be done by holding the reset bios button on the IO. I wish I had found this video. Literary took 2 minutes to fix it, I could not get the rated 6400mhz out of my ram at 1.40 volts but I was able to get 6000mhz. I could bump my voltage up to 1.45 and it would probably be stable but ASUS says don’t go any higher than 1.40 for daily use. This is a known issues with these boards but ASUS will not give a bios update to fix the issue, very frustrating!
I'd love to know the setting name on an MSI motherboard.
Yeah dude me too :D
I found out what to do. In MSI BIOS, first click on Advanced Mode (hit F7). Then go to OC Settings, and scroll all the way down, until you find voltage settings. There, put DRAM Voltage and DRAM VDDQ to 1.3 Volts each. Then, there should be an option right below that says "link". That's where you put it to "unlink" and I don't remember the option name 100%, but i recall it being something with DRAM Voltage.
Once it is unlinked, you have to set the 1.3 Voltage to the new options that appear. That is just so you set 1.3 volts to 1 ram stick, and 1.3 volts to the second ram stick (if you're running 2 sticks)
Hope this helps anyone out there
@@VinciExspressen you helped me thank you sir
@@PeterMikeSolomon I'm happy it helped you!
Got four sticks to run, but xmp1 won't run.
I did this with a new pc 14900k and corsair dominator titanium ddr5 6600 and it would not boot up. Screen stays black until I remove the motherboard battery and reset everything. What’s the solution?
Excuse my ignorance but what I don't know if I'm changing the correct settings on my MSI motherboard, I can't seem to find anything that says PMIC Voltages. Is there another term for an MSI equivalent? Thanks in advance.
Can anyone confirm which setting I need on an MSI MPG z790 Edge Wi-Fi to match the "PMIC Voltages" equivalent on this Asus BIOS? I found a setting named "Special PMIC Unlock" and changed that from disabled to enabled did I change the right setting?
I tried two kits of 64 GB 5600 CL30 from G.Skill for a total of 128 GB. It booted at 5600 XMP with 4 sticks but insta errors in Memtest86. I tried lowering the frequency down to 4800 MHz and Memtest86 still errored but much less. Then I tried cranking the Memory Controller Voltage from the stock 1.24v to 1.31v and then it passed the 4 hr overnight test (128GB takes forever to test). However, Linpack tests would throw errors very quickly as its much harder on the memory controller. I had to lower it to 4400 MHz to be completely stable. But at that point, I just gave up exploring 4x 32 since going all the way down to 4400 was too much of a compromise and just resorted to sticking with 2x 32 and running the 5600 XMP profile - it was completely stable.
That said, I recently started tweaking the 2x 32 and managed to get it stable at 6000 MHz after a lot of fine tuning. I had to increase the following voltages to get there:
VDD/VDDQ: 1.25v -> 1.425v
IMC Voltage: 1.24v -> 1.425v
System Agent Voltage: 1.23v -> 1.28v
VCCIN: 1.8v -> 2.0v
Any of these missing results in instability. But with all of those, I am running 2x 32 @ 6000 MHz CL30 100% solid stable in all tests.
Learned to tune exactly these voltages and the "safe ranges" from watching Buildzoid's DDR5 Overclocking guide video.
Had I learned about this earlier, maybe I would have been able to get 4x 32 at a higher speed stable, but at the time I didn't have the luxury of time to learn all this stuff as I was within my return period for the other kit.
I also learned that the TRUE test for memory + IMC stability is Prime95 Large FFTs. Any sign of problems show up within 3 - 40 minutes. Most problems show up under 60 seconds.
what mobo are u using?
@@sleick20 Asus ROG strix z690-e
@@rayw8252 but u you didnt achieve those 128gb? I am looking get that but am not sure..
@@sleick20 not at satisfactory speeds no
You save My life bro
This is My config.
Intel i5 12600k
Asus Tuf B760 plus wifi
DDr5 Lexar 6400 CL 32
And i cant handle 6400 witouth bluescreen or frezing , with this i can go on 6400 and working 🎉
I'm using a asus maximus formula z690 board for any one having issues running at 6400mhz following this guide worked but it kept crashing i found that the place that built my pc put the ram in a1 and b1 this was the cause of my issue after removing ram and running a2 and b2 as the motherboards suggested with 2 sticks im now running at 6400mhz 1.35v with no issues make sure you check there in correct ports lads.
Same board with the trident z5 6400mhz currently can't get it to run higher than 5000mhz. 64gb.
@@zeke10148 if its 4 sticks of ram seen there can be issues with ddr5 hope you sort it out
I'm using 4 might go down to just 2 for 32 gb. I've read reviews others have got it to be stable at 6400mhz with two sticks. Doesn't look like trident supports it with 4, I was running ok with the default at 3800mhz. Saw somewhere else 4000-4400mhz is the best you are going to get with Trident on this board. Best I got to even boot so far was 5800MHZ on the stock timing with voltage at 1.45V. Occasional crashing running games, mem86 shows a lot of errors.
Model F5-6400J3239G16GX2-TZ5RS
It's not just failure to boot also bluescreen, and random crashes if u use 4 dimms at ddr5
Dear Bartman, I know this video covers only ddr5, but I have a DDR4 4x16 (4 sticks) xpg 3600 cl18 that would crash constantly on basic tasks on my 12700k with xmp profile1. I’m new to OC and I play games as well as edit videos on 4K. I’ve tried 3400mhz and system becomes stable, but I’ve noticed a 15fps drop different sometimes during gameplay compared to when I only had 2x16(2sticks). So I really want to run it at 3600mhz. But I’m too scared to touch the VCCSA or other voltages. Other than messing with the PMIC, am I safe to apply the voltage increases by 0.5 - 1 volt for it to run stable 3600mhz? I’m a new content creator boomer and watched most of your vids, I just don’t want my pc to die as that’ll be pretty inconvenient… Thanks a bunch!
I have the same exact issue with my new build and I’ve been trying to troubleshoot for almost a week. My motherboard detected it as a CPU issue but in reality it’s my DDR4 Ram (4x16) as well. I have also been using the xmp profile1 on my MSI Z690 Motherboard. Just wondering if you added extra volts and if your build ran safely or if there was any efficient change to stick with 64gb of ram because I would love to be able to edit in 4k but with this problem it is a huge issue. Thank you!
I really wish there was a walkthrough like this for an MSI board. This is so frustrating lol. Nice walkthrough though.
Nice vid here.. I actually went through this process a few months ago.. I couldn't figure out why my Adata 5200hz would not work with XMP 1 or 2... luckily I found a random forum advising to increase the voltage slightly to 1.35v... Haven't had any problem since.. so yes, can confirm this is good advice.. didn't know about Sync 'By Per PIMC' though... I've found that wasn't necessary but I'm not going to turn that on in case it helps with stability. Thanks!
This problem also exists with amd cpu’s but the sync per pmc option isn’t there so still don’t know what to do , it seems absurd
Omg you saved my a**... I literally been sitting on 4 sticks and only using two. I slapped the other two into the board and it worked... you definitely made this terrible day into a better one. Thank you!!!!
What 4 sticks do you have? Did you use the exact settings as in the video or a little higher?
@@sadiquldey9095 same question here
Knock knock! What kits you’re running buddy
I was running GSKILL F5-6400J3239F24GX2-TZ5NR. I recently switched over to the Corsair CMH64GX5M2B6400C32 64 GB 2x32GB Kit. I do have a Ryzen 7950x which is very selective with the ram being used. But this corsair kit seems to be doing just great. @@AlirAlbayrak
Man this video saved me. I didn’t have the bios loop but the oc kept freezing after 10’mins of running. This fixed that. Z690 formula.
Nice video, we're currently working on the same issues in Italy. Such an headache..
Here from Mexico.
Hey i just installeed 32 more gb ram into my rig with 4 sticks instead of 2
Had no issue with xmp on 32 gb but after getting new ram my pc restart alot. What Can i do?
It did indeed take a while but worked as you said it would after several training sessions! I also had to re-seat the ram to get it to work. Brilliant and informative video. That's an absolute sub from me, and I cannot thank you enough. You are the man! :)
Z790 maximus extream DDR5 7000 4×16GB same issues
At Auto will run at 4800 1.1 1.1 1.8 Voltage
Xmp1 not running 4 sticks
Trying to get it running on 2 sticks then on 4 sticks
@@DarkSoul-sm2wv I still get the odd crash but it is very rare! You have very high speed mem at 7000mhz and a higher spec mobo, so I am not sure about the issues you are still facing. Nut I think essentially we are still having to OC the ram to get the rated speeds. It seems DDR5 is still quite poorly optimized
@@DarkSoul-sm2wvyo bud what you’ve done? Today im having same shet with meg ace 790 4x16 trident z5 7800 MHz. Stock works on 4000 MHz and whenever i want to get it higher(didn’t voltage up yet only speeds) its crashing anyway so. Gonna try upper voltage tomorrow. Have you got any solution for 4 sticks? Best regards
Hey guys For "Gigabyte" Z690 AORUS Master BIOS Version FOR 5200mhz Corsair DominatorDDR5 : yes I was able to finally able to get 4800MHZ Default Speed FROM dual channel Corsair Dominator 32gb (16GBx2) AORUS Master z690 to 5200 MHz. I was able to either overclock manually by inputing the vdd/vdq to 1.3 with XMP enabled and even without it enabled. So you can either do it with xmp profile enabled or also disabled meaning by setting it straight from the frequency from 4800 to 5200mhz. If your Gigabyte Bios user and you are fairly new and it would not allow u to double click it to set it: Highlight over it and press "+" or "-" to increase or decrease it.
You can also enable xmp programs to file and create a new profile and manually create the profile first and then check mark the box and set it, after that then You can go back to reopening the xmp profile and then select that new one you made with the vdd/vddq 1.3 and select that one you made with XMP on.
In my opinion it really doesn't matter if youve got xmp on or not AS LONG AS you've custom created or manually input those VDD/VDQ To 1.3 and then set your determined Frequency)
I've tested both for the past month now and have had no issues and no instability for both solutions and also I'VE Had NO ERROR Codes as well for the motherboard Code as well because usually if there were then it'll show on your motherboard CODE ERROR display when you boot so make sure to check your motherboard error code if it gives you reserved or A Memory instability error code. I HOPE This all works well for you all, Also I suggest Undervolt your I9 as well if you are having heating or thermal throttling to "- 0.050mv".
If any issues just message me and I'll do my best to reply as soon as possible.
Thank you for making this vid! Saved me a ton of troubleshooting time... much appreciated!
Hey bro what should i do set for corsair vengeance ddr5 7200? so when i open xmp1 voltages comes 1.45 as defaut so do i need to set up this 1.50 or going lower like you 1.30? btw i have no issues for 16gbx2 xmp1. But when i add 2 more 16gig it is not booting.
that´s exactly my problem. Were you able to fix it?
Awesome advice thanks! Finally gave up trying to run 64GB of GSkill Z5 at 6500. Works with 2 not with 4. With 4 it won't go over the default speed even after changing the voltage. G SKILL doesn't show it as supported. But don't really need it so I took two out to run the faster clock speed.
Which Slots did you place the two sticks in 2nd and 4th? Or 1st and 3rd?
@@donvincenz7406 2nd and 4rth going away from the cpu. Per the Asus user manual.
Your comment over a year later helped me. I moved the stickers as you said to 2nd and 4th from 1st and 3rd and it worked. I did everything this guy said on TH-cam but it wouldn’t work. Thank you.
Thanks this worked for me.
I had Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000 MHz
My base voltage was 1.35 so I upped it to 1.4 but I had to change the speed to 5600 MHz in order to get it work
Thank you so much for letting us know! You really helped me and I saved a lot of time in terms of troubleshooting. Greetings from Germany!
Did you use this setup? What settings did you use?
I have two sticks of ddr5 xmp profile and stuck in boot loop. How do I fix this? Thx
This fixed it for me. RAM was running very sub-par for the speed I bought. Now running at full speed and no stability issues whatsoever. Thanks for the information!
Excellent video! But I am having some difficulty making this work with my setup. ASUS ROG Maximus Z790 Hero with i9 14900 CPU and 4 sticks of Corsair Dominator DDR5 32GB 6600Mhz.
After following all of your instructions except increasing the voltage (mine was set to 1.4 by default) I couldn't get the RAM to boot. It would try to "train" the RAM as you mentioned, but eventually hang up with a Q-Code of 55 (Missing RAM). My solution was to leave XMP I enabled with the appropriate RAM Settings (DDR5 6600 25 39 39 76 1.4v) but the to Reduce the DRAM Frequency. I am able to boot to Windows at 5800Mhz, but to be stable need to reduce it further to 5600Mhz. In doing so, have I basically defeated the purpose of XMP? Is what I have done the same as selecting MANUAL and assigning the Frequency, or am I receiving benefits from the correct timings?
Lastly since the Normal Voltage was 1.4v, should I have tried 1.45v? It was too far away from your suggestion for me to experiment on my own.
Thank you again for the great video, and I do hope you can find the time to answer this question.
Dude, you saved me a huge headache! Hope below steps will help you to get yours to work too. Here is how I got stable system. I have z690 Maximus Hero, 4x16gb 5600, i9-12900k. I got it to work with: NO XMP profile selected, 5200 picked manulaly, VDD and VDDQ voltage set to 1.35V, PMIC Voltages set to By Per PMIC, and the key to stable system was this setting PCI Express Native Power Management - DISABLED. Have fun!🤘
What mobo you running?
@@ianolivas9920 I've got Rog Maximus Z690 Hero
How is this still working for you?
@@skyman1883 I got mine working at 5600 on xmp1 without messing with the settings. I think the latest bios update was a fix
@Ms Moon Boo oh well mine works fine no issues, no crashes, no tweaks made to the xmp profile
mine has always booted but if i play any games, games crash immediately upon start up. Then i get a crash message (directx error) on MW2 and other newer call of dutys. i bought dominator platinum 4 16gb - 64gb 7000mhz cl34 ddr5 ram to use, but im only using the two sticks at mo until i find way to run all four with xmp enabled. (all 4 sticks are identical, all 7000mhz advertised speed and same CAS latency at CL34)
g.skill 7800 same story.
Just seen this. I've had so many discussions with asus..running z690 asus extreme with 64gb team group 6400mhz. Going to try when get home..let ya know 😃
did it work?? how about you temps are they okay,, i was gonna do that but im afraid it's gonna burn my cpu cuz high voltage means higher temps.
please let me know if you get the chance, thanks in advance
Did it work? I have the same board and would like to know
Following the steps taken in this video got me to the "stuck in learning phase" problem. Twas suggested in the video to try reducing the clock speed if that happens. So, I dropped the target speed from 6400 MHz to 6200 MHz and now it seems to be running beautifully. Thank you very much for this video as it is amazingly still relevant with the Z790 boards in December of 2022!
13900K
ROG Strix Z790-E
4x 16GB G.Skill Trident Z5 XMP- 6400 MHz
Also worth noting that I had originally and mistakenly built this PC with similar EXPO RAM and the system booted first try with no issues. I only noticed that the Micro Center guy had grabbed the wrong RAM for me after I noticed nearly a month later that my RAM was running at 4800 MHz. Anyway, I'm glad it's all solved now. Thanks again!
Excuse me, but bid you try to increase the voltage before this alternative way?
@@charlesjr9523 yes. System would not boot.
I actually ran into reliability issues after this post with specific video games. I have since changed to 2x 32GB DDR5 with 6000 MHz XMP. No issues whatsoever since this change.
Update March 2023, just built new pc, ASUS ROG Z790 4 sticks of 32gb dominator platinum 6000mhz, follow his settings but i changed my voltage to 1.35 and my ram clock speed down to 5600mhz booted just fine
I’ve got 4 sticks of Trident Z5 6400 CL32. When I turn on XMP I, the voltage is correctly set to 1.4v which is the stick was rated for. I’ve tried to set the voltage to 1.435 (without enabling high voltage mode) and set “by per pmic) but it won’t POST.
I’ve enabled high voltage mode and set it to 1.5 and still no dice. I think I’m going to try something below 6000mhz.
@@meochan913 dude dont pump too high, you will burn your cpu, be caerful!!
my advice is go back and reset you bios, turn xmp on, leave it at 1.4v and try lowering your ram frequency from 6400 to 6300 or 6200 or 6100 or 6000, just toggle those it might work.. but dont pump your voltage more than 1.4
if it didnt work let me know ill try something else
@@jam2031 did it work? I’m getting 4 sticks of 6400 and I need to know what to do
So I have the z790m-Plus board and was having a nightmare of situation with the unexpected DDR5 training sessions. Sometimes would finally boot then crash blue screen and then go through 5 cycles of restarts before getting back to the OS. I followed your steps and holy shit it all works and my PC is super stable now. Thank you so much for this video.
For memory I have 2x 32GB Trident Z5 DDR5 RAM 64GB 6400MT/s CL32-39-39-102 1.40V , I raised the voltages to 1.435V and now the RGB on all sticks is consistent as well as setting the PMIC Voltages to "BY per PMRC" works flawlessly.
Been having this issue for weeks now and everything I’ve tried didn’t work until now. I wish I found this video earlier. Much appreciated for getting straight to the point. With the fix
Darn.. I was hoping you had found a solution to DDR5 XMP profiles crashing certain games like CoD when running at the rated speeds. My computer runs just fine with the proper XMP profile of my 7600 DDR5 until I try to run some triple A games. Something about the XMP profiles causes DirectX errors and in order to play those games I have to downclock my ram by at least 400 mhz.
Hi. Your video is great and priceless! Used your suggestions for my newly purchased Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB 2x32GB (64GB) XMP3.0 6600MTs kit which was proving difficult to run at 6600. The change to the PMIC voltages form Sync All PMICs to By per PMIC made all the difference. Works rock solid at 6000 and 13900K at 5.8GHz. Thank you.
All the other XMP O/C videos are so complicated and do not work as well as yours.
I have a similar Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB 2x32 64GB ram kit as you and a 13700k. When PC is put into sleep mode, upon start up, the system will only click then light up briefly, no boot, no windows, only ram rgb would stay on. Did you have a similar experience before this fix? Thanks
No I did not. The whole XMP DDR5 thing is a deceptive, very difficult thing to achieve. I recently crashed my system and corrupted my Windows 11 OS drive trying to run it at XMPII at 6600 MTs. Took me days to fix the boot using a recovery drive and the CMD function. It was a nightmare. I have since left my BIOS memory settings on default at 4800 MTs for peace of mind. Decided to just enjoy my games and sims with my kit as it is. @@countdadcula4475
My ram is 6400, but the bios shows it at 4000. Followed the video, and still won’t go above that. Thinking I may have faulty ram and/or motherboard
It also seems like evga doesn’t allow you to change the pmic settings. At least not on the z690 classified.
I have 4x16gb, 6400 mhz, cl32, G.Skill Trident Z5 memory. With the method you showed, I was able to get 5800 Mhz. (1.40000v + 5800 mhz)
For an hour I tried to reach 6000-6200-6400 MHz with different voltages, but the BIOS never POSTed. (Actually I can't go above 1.43500v in BIOS. It automatically overwrote 1.45000 to 1.43500)
I look forward to the new video on 6000+ Mhz performance and many thanks for this solution!
If you are using Asus then there should be a “high DRAM voltage mode” (switch it to Enabled) that unlocks that 1.435 limit but use with caution!
@@BartmansBits I was still testing the settings yesterday but it was very unstable. specifically, my windows have crashed and since then I am over on a reinstall. Kahru memtest found an error in the first 50% after 5-6 mins... and I can't get through the 1st pass in memtest86. We have to wait for the bios update, but I'm not even sure it will work with 2 kit dual channel memory. It is no coincidence that they do not produce a quad channel ddr5 kit sadly :( and the 2 x 2x16 dual kit is pretty ghetto.
Aaand thanks for the reply. I am using asus rog maximus z690 extreme mobo
Yep I have the Asus Rog Strix Z690-E and it won't work either.
I will also be waiting for the update fix.
I have only 3600MHZ in windows of those same RAMS and and I have to take two of 4 out utherwise the Win sometimes crash with blue screen....so trying only 32Gbs rams on low mem frequency....terrible opt...
Thanks so much!!!!! I though my pc was broke untill I found your video. You made my day and now my pc is cruising with 64GB :)
Great Video but I want to highlight one thing for many people that still have problem with xmp profile on my own case:
I ordered Prebuild PC and had hard time configuring xmp profile for 6000mhz 2x16gb and I almost lost my mind.. turned out the person who was building my PC inserted RAMs in wrong ports, check your motherboard manual and be sure that you have inserted ram in correct ports, I switched mine, did steps from the video and it worked like charm!
The solution is weird as hell, but it's working for me with 4 x 32GB DDR5-5200. I have a MSI motherboard, I had to just had to turn on XMP, then scroll down in the BIOS until you see DRAM Voltage [Link]. Change it to unlink and fill in all the voltage fields for each stick with 1.3 (assuming your RAM is 1.25).
For people who still run into this issue.. not all the settings he provides work 100% of the time. I have 4x 16gb sticks. I managed to get 2 working. 4 is a straight up no go. I used XMP 2 on mine. I also used sync because per pmic would still make it loop for me. So i would suggest trying different combinations of the settings he provides. It can differ per build what works.
I had 4 working previously with these exact instructions and tested it pretty rigorously. Now after bios update its not posting with 4. Ugh back to square 1.
@@tooManyMidgets Same thing happened to me this week on the latest ASUS Strix x790 E BIOS. I had to lower my XMP memory speed from 5600 to 4800 to get it to boot.
Didnt worked for me. I still getting into the loop. I have 4 sticks corsair vengance ddr5 5600mhz
found a solution?
@@daedubedb yes, working with less MHz than the max. I make them work at 4900mhz max without crashes
I can get my Gigabyte Z790 Aero G to boot by changing these settings and windows is totally stable but as soon as I do a restart I get the boot failure detected message again but if I shut down instead of reboot then it always boots up fine. Gigabytes bios is super buggy.
Hi, I just ordered my z790 maximus hero and Kingston fury 128gb(4x32) ddr5-5600...can you please tell me if I would be able to run all 4 sticks with proper speed with the method explained in the video?
I was going for the same but the maximum formula z790 . White 14900k and wanted 4x32 Kingston fury renegade 6400 or if that delivery takes to long I found 6000 in stock thinking maybe go for the 6000 because they’re in stock . So also wanne know if it can run all 4 stable and the pc will work ? Let me know if you figured out already
Any fix for 4 stick DDR5 Trident Z5 6400mhz CL32 with MSI MEG Z690 ACE and i9-12900k?
Ive got my dominator 64gb 5600 4sticks to be stable on my msi mag Z790 MB by just running them without xmp for first boot then turning xmp back on but whenever i try to do a ramtest ie diagnose memory test or any of the other ram testers they dont seem to do anything my computer just sits there left it for 2 hours just in case but still the percentage counter hadn't moved tried it with 2 sticks and it worked fine I'm not having any stability problems with 4 sticks games and everything are running fine that's playing Cyberpunk
Im using 2 sticks of coarsair 16gb advertised speed of 5600mhz with no xmp after bios update it runs at 4800mhz same thing happens with xmp and without xmp i have tried to manually clock the ram without xmp still nothing stuck at 4800 c40 super frustrated.
Amazing ! Can you please do a similar training video for MSI Bios that is totally different. I cant find in MSI Bios where can I set PMIC Voltages / by per PMIC. I have a MSI MPG Z690 CARBON WIFI I9 13900K and 4 x 32 GB DDR5 corsair vengeance 5800 Mhz . unfortunately the memory is running at 4000 MHz. Thank you !
Hey i have problem with corsair ddr5 6200mhz i cant reach it and it stay at 4800mhz also this video didint help me :-:
Your mb?
@@robertnine asus rog maximus z690 extreme / i9-12900ks
Although this video got my system to boot even moving up to 1.5v on my ASUS Z790-Hero w/ 13900k it was unstable. My memory kit is the Gskill Trident Z5 RGB DDR5-6400 CL 32 @ 1.4V
This is the same kit I have, did you end up getting it to work?
@@XevilangleX eventually a bios update on the motherboard got it working
Hello!
Thanks for this tuto !
No matter how much I increase the voltage with my 4 RAM bars, my PC only reboots in a loop and returns to the BIOS.
If I put only 2 bars it works.
Thanks for your help
What solved it for me was making sure my ram was in slot 2 and 4 (not 1 and 3)! After moving the two sticks to 2 and 4, I set bios to use XMP 2 and then it finally booted normally using the 6000 MHz the RAM is supposed to be able to run at. Nothing fixed this while they were in 1 and 3 slots. So try that if you only have two sticks. As this video is now 2 years old, there have been BIOS updates to help with the DDR5 issues. So you most likely wont need to do the fix explained in the video. (Could be worth a try though)
still the problem persists, my bios is up to date. The values in this video are not suitable for my system, I will try to make it work by tinkering with it. GSKILL 128GB (4x32GB) TRIDENT Z5 + Asus Rog Strix Z790-a
I am having same issue, please help
Intel i9 14900k Crashing / Gigabyte z790 UD AX
I see unexpected crashing issues when I install 4 G.skill Trident Z DDR5 RAM sticks (4000 MT/s) instead of 2 (4800 MT/s).
Some config I have setup:
Performance CPU Clock Ratio: 55
Efficiency CPU Clock Ratio: 42
Extreme Memory Profile: disabled
BIOS is up to date : [F11e]
I have 2 16GB CL40 6000MHz G.Skill DDR5 RAM paired with a Z690 Hero and I couldn't get it to work on 6000MHz stable, (getting BSODs on games). So I settled for 5600MHz for a while. The "By per PMIC" setting really seemed like it fixed my issues. Thanks for the tip!
How is it going now? I too have 6000mhz G Skill Z ram and i was getting BSOD.
Did the setting fix the issue making 6000 possible or did you mean fix it so 5600 was stable? cheers for the reply
It did work for a while but I still got some BSODs after a few days so I decided to set it back to 5600. There's a new BIOS update for my board though, but I haven't updated yet
@@aaaarvil do you have a overclock on your CPU as well
@@edsayswhoa4365 nope, it's on stock clocks.
unfortunately don't work for me, i have lancer 5200, 1,25 xmp, i put until 1,36 and errors on MEMTEST86. 😔
Just got an ASRock z790 Steel Legend and 4x16GB corsair vengeance ddr5-6000 ram. Set the xmp profile and manually set to DDR5-6000. nope. Tried everything I could and it defaults to 3600 until I came across your video! I do have a core i9-12900k which says max 4800 so I set it to 4800 with your other settings, I put my voltages to 1.35 though. So far it's stable at 4800. I'll try going up later but I'm happy for now. Thank you!!!
I have the Asus Z790 Maximus Extreme with 2 dominator 5200Mhz 32gb sticks, tried this fix with no luck, although it did eventually bring me back where I could enter the bios again. Bios is up to date also.
Just have to keep looking for a fix!
Still having the issue trying to run 4x32Gb DDR5 6400 G.skill Trident on a ROG Maximus Formula z690. Annoying thing is each individual stick works on its own at 6400 with XMP I/II/Tweaked enabled and every stick works with every other stick in a pair (in all DIMM slot combos), so the memory is good to go.
found a solution?
how do i do this on a msi motherboard?
I'm running 64 gigs of DDR5 6000 36CL, and got it to run at 5,600 MHz without any problems.
I have 4 sticks of ddr5 5200 mhz. It seemed to have worked for a while, but then I started randomly getting blue screens with a "stop code memory management" message. I couldn't tell which activities were causing it, sometimes it happened during a heavy task, sometimes it happened during simple browsing. I figured xmp was probably the cause, so I just turned it off. Guess I'll just bite the bullet and live with the safe speed.
Hey i have the same problem with my amd motherboard i have a ryzen 7 7700 with 4x8gb 6000mhz speeds and when i only put two it works perfectly fine at 6000mhz but when i put all four the windows keeps crashing and bios freeze and alot more problems does anyone have a fix?
Tried with 4 rams of trident z 6400 and did not work :(
Same happen to me
I mean it still doesn’t work for me.. any suggestion? I have lancer ddr5 6000 4 sticks
I have a rog strix z790 e processor i9 12900k and ddr5 6400 32cl 32g and my problem is that with two strips everything is fine but with 4 strips I can no longer even access the bio in xmp 1 the voltage is already at 1.40 I might break it if I increase the tension too much
Hey guys, I will appreciate your help.
I have the z790 E WiFi 2.
Intel i9-14gen k
32*2 ddr5 6000h.
When I try to enable XMP and save and restart the motherboard will write error code 77 and will try the Q LED read light and will stay there until I will press the CMOs Key to restart
Anyone can please help ?? ❤
I’ve got 2 sticks of ddr5 ram and I get stuck in a boot loop whenever I enable xmp, sadly this method didn’t work for me 😢
Hello @Bartman’s Bits I hope that after so long you read this message...
In my case I had 2 sticks: G.Skill Tridentz F5-6400J3239G16GX2-TZ5RK, enabling the XMP profile, these worked perfectly at 6400 mhz.
Now I bought 2 more sticks of the same model, when installing the memories I have the problem of the blue screen loop. Following your video I was able to configure the memories (I have the same mother that you used in video ASUS ROG Strix Z690-F Gaming WIFI) but the stock voltage of the memories is 1.4, the maximum that it allows me to upload is 1.435 with that configuration I can boot in Windows but some games crash after a while. Do you have any idea what I can do? Thanks and greetings from Argentina!
Doing a bios update resolved my issue. When I click task manager and check my memory it now says 5600mhz.
You just got yourself another subscriber bud.👍
These settings helped for my situation. GsKill 8000mhz 48GB 2 Sticks. XMP would not boot. Changed these settings now it’s working! You the man. Intel 14900K, ASUS Z790 Dark Hero (Ram off the Memory Support list) Now i dont have to RMA.
Dude, what a legend! :)
I am running a 14700K with 4 sticks of 16GB 6400 MHZ Corsair Vengance RAM.
Turned on XMP 1 and clocked the RAM down to 5600 MHZ according to intel's 14700K CPU RAM support specs on their page.
I had quite some issues with crashing games and stuff, untill i changed the PMIC Voltages setting from "Sync All PMICs" to "By per PMIC".
The voltage settings have not been changed as i do not run 100% of the RAM clock capabilities and voltages are already set by the XMP profile to 1.4 V.
My RAM has been running stable since this change, and games haven't been crashing no more.
I haven't done alot of testing yet but i will keep you guys updated.
Thanks alot for sharing this information with the community! :)
didnt worked for me.
asus z690 wifi (latest bios) with 4x 16gb ddr5 gskillz 5600mhz. Tried XMP1 with 1,3v and 1,35v and the other setting suggested but it keeps crashing. Aint nobody got time for testing lower MHz :D
crap
I got mine working at 6000 mhz with same mainbord and same ram. 1.4v and the other setting the guy did in the video
Hey thanks for this. You noted that your 5600 ram has a stock voltage of 1.25v and that you set it .05v higher at 1.3v. I have 5200 Mhz ram rated at 1.2v. Should I use 1.3v or 1.25v?
This is an excellent video that seems to have helped a lot of people! I'm just about to upgrade to an MSI MPG z790 Edge Wi-Fi and a 12600k with a 4x16 kit that comes together.
Should this still be necessary with RAM kits sold as one unit 4x16 at 5600mhz? 🤔
Does anyone know how to do this in the BIOS for the Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Master? I can't find anything at all to set voltage or frequency.
Hi, It didn't work for me. Strix Z690-E + i9 13900K + TForce Delta DDR5 6800MHZ 4X16GB.
But if set to 6200MHZ then they work without problem.
Thank god my msi z690 unify x motherboard only has two dimm slots
This is not unique to DDR5. I have the same problem with my 4 sticks of DDR4 running at full 3600Mts . I had to bring it down to 3400Mts in order for it to boot. All sticks match so its not the problem. This MSI Pro Z690 A DDR4 motherboard is crap. I called MSI and they said they don't support XMP even though its on their motherboards? Makes no sense.
Yeah I've got the z690 with the trident Z5 32gb. And i can only run one stick. Im guessing this same method will work for only two sticks?
I take the coin out and reset the bios, then I get 4 sticks to train in 3 minutes; a shutdown and restart boots up quick, but one more shutdown and startup caused it to loop or take forever. AMd tomahawk and 128 (4 sticks) HELP!!!!
The same is happening to me, i fallow your video and it load normally but as soon i open a game or somithing i get blue screen(with 16x4 slot of gskill z5 6400mhz do you have any solution. ?
Same