Yeah, he did a great job and explained very well what was going on in an entertaining way. I share your opinion (the last sentence). But why is your praise preceded by a wild claim for which you have no data (that absurd 90% random number)? Is that supposed to be some weird kind of reinforcing adjective? So I mean these unknown and probably fictitious other technicians and that you just generally prejudge these (unknown) people. Do you need such weird and disingenuous tricks to make an argument? Sorry, but that is weird behavior. Repair-Technician-Trauma or something? Also, reality doesn't work that way. How do you think northwestrepair improved his skills? Through training, feedback, practice and learning from mistakes. Your announcement just doesn't make any sense, because if a technician only delivers rubbish, then (to say it nice **g** ) he will eventually be able to look for a new job, or the company will be sued.
@@dieSpinnt bro this is a TH-cam comment section not a formal report for a repair technician association or something. Some hyperbole is to be expected. I’ve never had a technician do that much on a GPU before. So if you want an anecdotal number, he’s better than 100% of those I’ve experienced.
This is how testing should be performed in all hardware stores. It's not enough just to fix the obvious issue, but to perform a stress test and identify all other problems before calling it a fix. Job well done! Congratulations!
I agree! But on the flip side, the problem is that it likely increases the price of the service & also takes time for the tech to stop & make a phone call to the customer to inform them of what was found. If someone had a limited amount of money & was hoping for an easy quick fix, what are they supposed to do when to get their part back costs more than they have?
are we going to mention that he replaced the IC with one from an old ass 1070 unnecessarily and then when he found it wasn't the issue he kept it? no just me?
Just a side note: When using compressed air to clean a fan, don't let the fan spin up. It (may) act like a generator and push a high voltage into a controller. I've damaged equipment by not being careful enough.
oh god. that's what I always do. I have an 8psi dry compressor and I just blast it into my case spinning every fan. maybe I shouldn't do that anymore, lol
@@northwestrepairhow much to mess with a xts1500 Motorola radio? Believe it's a board issue but not knowledgeable enough to resolve. More and for giggles project of mine.
I can edit and record videos it seems pretty easy to do but can be a lot harder depending on the level of editing required. Meanwhile, fixing these graphics look 100 times harder. Like high school kids edit and record videos all the time, I don't know any who could fix a graphics card like this.
needs seriously dedicated people because it's so complicated, and newer tech changes so much in the course of only a few years. I wanted to do IT very badly but I am in a different profession now. Not because I gave up. Because it pays better.
@@HoodrichShinobi Yeah.. that's the thing.. the amount of labor and expertise required to do these repairs is insane! And therefore very expensive. Likely it costs more to do these repairs than it does to just buy a new graphics card. It's a catch-22.
maybe the compressed air rotated the fans so hard that fans produced voltage and sent it back to the card, blowing the fuse and damaging the other components?
@@ArchangelAuroraGPU/CPU fans are VERY bad at generating electricity. If they will be spinning so fast that the blades will be about to break, you'll get maybe 2.5-3 volts/200mA from them, that's without any load, while you need higher voltage and current to run those fans. So there's no way you can generate enough power to damage anything by making those fans to spin. You can use a cheap multimeter and any unneeded fan to do a simple experiment. Prepare to be disappointed.
@@shadowflash705 @shadowflash705 I've had fans spining at 20+ krpms from compressed air, while connected. Nothing ever happened. What WILL damage your fan outputs are high power fans that draw many amps of current. They need a secondary driver that can draw more current. Simple MOSFET should be enough.
I don't think what he does here will ever be common. It just is'int very practical and i get the feeling if it was common they would charge a lot for it. Like for a card like this you would probably be paying half the price of the card just to fix it.
@@zetsubou3704 It was a hypothetical my dude. I already stated its impractical so by nature it means you won't find many people willing to do it which would make it more expensive. I just meant if it was a thing it would not be cheap because all the work it requires. Also there are many things that are common and not cheap as an example a shipping freighter or airplanes.
That's why all tv repair shops are gone. I remember my friends relative growing up had a tv repair shop and it was busy. I even have fuzzy memories of the tv repair guy coming to my place to fix the family tv, pulling out modular boards, etc. These days, your tv is worth 1/3 the price you paid after 2 years, the new models are probably better, and everything is built into 1 or 2 pieces. they're not serviceable without complete diagnostics of individual components. meanwhile, a new 50" tv is $300.
Im a Bench Jeweler and i work with soldering tiny things into place. i have so much respect for electronic technicians, i find myself bitching when i cant get a stone to seat right on prongs. Then i watch videos like these on my break and i can only imagine the headaches you guys have to go through for checking the quality of your repairs.... you do what you think needs to be done, just to hook it up and run benchmarks for something to still be off, and then start over again. MUCH RESPECT AWESOME VIDEO!
The hard part is the diagnosis. The soldering in this case is something anyone with a bit of experience handling SMD parts, a hot air station and a soldering iron can do. The diagnosis is almost black magic compared to that, especially if you don't have actual schematics or repair manuals from the manufacturer, that requires a lot of experience and a good electronics knowledge base.
The PCB is made to repel solder. Just put on the right amount, have enough solder flux heat it up and everything flows into place. The diagnosis though... oh lord please save us 😂
@@CaptainC0RNBREAD unfortunately they didnt answer, i just ordered expensive electronics recently and NONE of them came with any more packing material than a goddamn PIECE OF BROWN PAPER
@@sacredeyes3508 Don't be surprised about Amazon's new "reduced waste" shipping, where they put fragile and sensitive items not in a box, but in a fking PLASTIC mailing envelope! Ive had a hard drive and processor shipped that way, but hey, if there's the slightest damage at all, I'm letting them pay the return shipping and reshipping a free replacement. As an author I've had Amazon's subsidiary Createspace ship my books in a box with ONE sheet of brown paper for "packing" well, books are not fragile/breakable, but shifting around inside a box loose they get "rubs" and corner dings, I can't mail a $39 book out to a client that looks like it came from a used book store! Amazone wound up replacing about HALF the books in almost every order, yet they continued shipping them as I described despite having to replace half the books due to "rubs" and cover/corner dings.
Honestly this type of repair knowledge and dedication is up there with Doctors and Teachers imo. Truly the backbone of a functioning society. I wish there was more of you
How does repairing a graphics card help society function. It's the trades that make society function. Do you know what separates 3rd world countries from first world countries... running water, sewage and electricity
@@jeremywilliamson1194 I think he means electronics repair in general. I'm thinking about how the entire world is run on circuit boards, not all of which can be so easily replaced.
This is a great showing of why repairs like this one are expensive, without the tools, the expertise, the fine motor skills to manually deal with SMDs and the tools (Like an expensive oscilloscope) It's impossible to fix modern GPUs. Even with all that it still takes both time and effort carefully dismantling and reassembling the card to do testing and diagnostics. Excellent job!
How much does a repair like this usually cost? I'm only asking because if its so expensive, I think it would make more sense just to spend an extra $100-200 (depending on how much the repair would cost) and just get a new card.
The truth is, even to fix a GPU made in the 90s, you'd still need a multimeter, oscilloscope, and dexterous fingers. That part hasn't really changed, much. The part that has changed is the sheer number of teeny tiny booger-sized SMDs on these newer, gigantic cards.
@Yukeena I dont repair GPUs but been doing electronics repair as a side hobby for a couple years. I'd wager that unless the GPU is worth more than $700 US dollars or finding a suitable replacement is not feasible Repairs like this don't make sense. For a sub $500 Card you easily exceed 50% of the value of the GPU brand new. (my personal threshold for recommending just buying a new one.) My reasoning is that even with a great quality repair like this one, there is no telling how the other components service life got affected by the faulty component before the fix so you end up with a card that can last you from years to a couple months at worst and these repairs are done after warranty is gone so the value proposition is not good for cheaper cards. Sadly this is part of the planned obsolescence baked into moder products and why the expertise keeps becoming more rare as time goes on.
yeah im an EE by education and a programer by trade. The vast majority of things it just doesnt make sense to pay someone to fix. Even an easy fix may take 2 hours to diagnose and affect. Thats gonna need to be at least 50 bucks for the time adn that is for a relatively simple issue. Like I have these wiz light bulbs I got on clearance for 9 dollars for 3. 2 are dead after 30 days. I suspect an electrolytic cap in the PSU went bad. Getting the boards out without destroying them would be a job. All to fix a 3 dollar light builb. Or I could just go buy another box in ten minutes. I do want to rip the ESP32s out of them if possible, but havent found a nondestructive way to get the board out.
I always assumed GPU repair was a crapshoot - more often then not a waste of time and money. This video has convinced me that there ARE great repair providers. What a great example of dedication to the goal. And hilarious too - "NO SHORTS".😁
Then you assumed correct, GPUs repairs are a crapshoot. It would normally cost you a lot even if that repair would be as simple as one on the video. Still might be worth it, but problem is that its hard to know repair costs until someone will attempt repairing it. And even that check will cost you money. So you can lose money without repairing it if it turns out its not worth it or you will waste money paying for repairs more than this GPU is worth. Overall its not as good as you think.
GPUs are priced in this weird spot where most any repair is more expensive than a new card until you get to the top of the line current Gen ones Now if you did your own repair it would be worth it and tbh it really isn't hard to get some basic repair knowledge that may save you from contributing to the ewaste issue
@@QuisUtDeus828 It really isn't enough to have the basic repair knowledge. Troubleshooting to determine what needs to be fixed is a bit beyond the basics.
I'm always amazed how people can do surface soldering of such small components. I make a mess just trying to do the simplest soldering on a PCB, but this is just art
I worked in electronics design for four decades and was a fair hand at soldering. What really impresses me is that he can salvage a chip from another card to replace one on the repair unit, and it worked.
Not to say it's nothing, but it's easier than you would expect. Most of the time you just place the component so it sits about right on the pads, apply hot air, and it'll seat itself into the proper position on its own. I don't consider myself a soldering wizard by any means, but the soldering work required to do this wouldn't be the tough part to me. The really hard part that I have a lot of respect for is diagnosing the issues properly without a schematic or repair manual. That requires a lot of experience. I'd be able to solder the components, and get replacements from a donor board, but I wouldn't know what to do, or what's worth trying!
I was about to say the same. When I’ve tried soldering on a breadboard before, the heat would start to remove adjacent components or burn the pads out. How does he not disturb the other components that are next to what he’s replacing?
@@makuru.42they had to do that to make software before the first compiler was written, nowadays we just get our computers to smash rocks for us programmatically
It is nice to see someone go the extra mile. Like alot of other comments say other repair persons may have stopped when it was "technically" working again. You went above and beyond. Keep up the good work.
I've been an electronics tech like you since the late 70s and even today I hate doing SMD. I can understand why manufacturers use them - because machines can place them on circuit boards - but they're not made for human hands to deal with!
@@sw6188 that's probably another reason why they like them, don't want people repairing their own stuff now! Companies crow about the environment publicly, but it's all for show, they don't mind filling the planet with e-waste one tiny little bit.
@@eye776 Yes I understand all of that, like I say I have been in electronics since the 70s so I have seen the transition from big bulky power-hungry units to things that will fit in your pocket and run for days on one charge. The point I was making above is that SMD technology was really not made with human hands in mind.
@@sw6188 That's the point. They don't want human hands to repair their tech so they place THESE little shits all over the electronics that require microscopic precision of a robot and the same amount of microscopic fine aimed soldering heat.
@@Lainyyyyy Are You asking "rjs1138" why he would investigate if his problem is due to an erroneous SOFTWARE-Setting, and instead suggesting a "hardware-mod" ?? If so, why, if not what are You replying to? Best regards.
@onlyeyeno he never tagged the dude you're talking about. If you have to assume who somebody is talking about don't bud in... trust me I've learned that way too. Lol
Seen so many cards need to be warrantied due to the fan/RGB MCU firmware updates going wrong. Definitely seems there would be a safer way of handling that, assumedly via the vbios.
@@northwestrepair Ditto! Do builds myself; but being able to dig deeper would be nice to add to my sodering skill. but that heat camera seemed like a eipc help, may I ask what that is? & hopefully things continue :)
Its just a thermal camera addon for your phone. The camera is cool and helps to isolate potential issues but I suspect it will take time and experience for you to actually tell the difference between something that is supposed to warm up vs something that is abnormally warming up too quickly. I suspect if you want to do this yourself, you would need to measure the normal operating temperature of all your components (perhaps using the app or an infra thermometer) as your rig is powering up, left running for a few minutes or longer so you have a set of baselines to compare against.
Definitely thorough in post repair troubleshooting, saving the cards and owners future expenses created by initial issue. Sure wish more repair Techs had your ethics and work principles.
It's awesome to watch a pro at work. It's also impressive that you treat the customer's card as if it were your own. No cutting corners, or rushing to "just get it done".
@@TemulonTrue but the point is that he didn't, and he should be commended for doing an amazing job that Ik a lot of people wouldn't have a clue how to do and at the end of the day, that means the gpu won't end up as waste for now but let's hope it stays that way for as long as it can
@@Temulonyep, if this were an actual card repair business it wouldn't really work. The charge out would have to be high enough to cover all the time & most people are just going to put that money towards a new card, just the reality of the world
This was recommended at random to me, but it is fascinating and I cannot overstate how impressed I am with your level of knowledge with this technology, and your attention to detail. It’s so cool to see! Kudos.
I pretty much never leave comments, but its people like you that are just absolute gods to me and deserve the best. Your knowlegde about graphics cards is insane to me and thanks for the work you do
I love watching your videos you can tell by how you repair a video card that you love what you do. I’ve seen you stay up till like two in the morning, working on something and not giving up. If I ever need something repaired, it’s going to you.
Great job sir! I think most repairman would stop digging for issues the moment that they successfully launched the card and passed the stress tests. You go the extra mile! If I ever need repair I know where to look for it. Thank you!
We can thank the lacking of additional education of technicians who get taught how to replace parts but nothing about fixing the parts itselves for that
Lol, I can tell you that at my previous job when I killed a computer with compressed air, I put than one in the closet and dragged out a new one for the employee.
I have learned from good advice when using AIR to clean Pc Components with FANS, i always tape down the fans to stop them spinning, Soldering, use the right temp for the job, and photo every part of dissasembly, and support heavy GPU's. Im a total novice, yet have learned the hard way. Interesting and informative content. Kudos
I'm new to all this and need to clean my pc as it has about 6yrs of dust caked in it. I was just gonna buy a can of dustet and go to town . What should I do?
@@Spocklee 1. Well take the pc outside if the weather permits. 2.Remove the front/back panels. 3.If you have a Hair Dryer with a cool setting use that as a blower. 4. Use a antistatic wrist band if you have one, otherwise earth yourself on a chrome tap. 5. If you know how, remove any/all case fans and brush clean, if you use the blower make sure to hold the fansto stop them spinning, as it can cause damage to the bearings. 6. Remove the GPU and use a combination of the: brush/blower to remove all the dust (hold any fan as you use the blower, and watch the fan blades with the blower, they are easily damages if clumsy. 7. Do the same inside the case, dont touch the memory unless its shrouded, and careful of static. 8. if you remove the heatsink from the cpu, 1st make sure you have some fresh thermal-paste. 9. Then just re-assemble.
Just outstanding. The amount of explanation and showing details and as to why passes your knowledge onto others outstanding! Hope to watch more of your videos soon!
Its the fans free spinning when you blow Canned air through the heat sink, Because an electric motor turns into an alternator generating current so when you blow air through the card it free spins the fan generating current back through the circuit, Most Case fans actually have protection However the problem with EVGAs(amung others) design is that it blows the fuse and can damage other parts of the circuit, because there is no overcurrent protection(typically older case fans could blow Fan headers this way). so I always tell people with Graphics cards when cleaning jam(or press on them slightly) the fans so they don't free spin, I had a 280 EVGA Classified die on me in this way which was fine the card really needed to be water cooled anyways.
@@kimberly4275 3 fans spinning faster than originally intended......If its fast enough to light LEDs in larger case fans WTF do you think, Also I accidentally killed a Dust Buster style EVGA 285 Classified card cleaning it in this way, and I have seen dead fan ports on Motherboards over the years it always is an issue of I cleaned my computer now my fan doesn't work. It depends on overcurrent protection of the circuit. It is not a Myth, either link the video or stop spreading bad information. Also I am 99% sure Gamers Nexus, Jay2Cents and Linus say don't blow and freely spin fans as they have killed ports. Also here is a dead card with a blown fuse after the person states I cleaned it with Compressed air. So what more do you honestly need? there is no myth to it. Also you can reverse the current.
One of the biggest issues with air dusting is that not many people realize if you spin the fans even if the card isn't plugged it, it can cause a short due to the turbines ramping up speed leading to a discharge of electricity. Mostly harmless but not worth damaging your parts. A big tip for air dusting) Either take the fan off the card itself or place your finger or something else in the way of the fan blades to stop them from spinning, if you do take apart the fan record yourself doing so, so it's easier to place back together and you may as well get used to using a soft bristle brush with 90% proof rubbing alcohol. Taking the pre-cautions won't lead to as many issues.
I worked in a PCBA repair area for a major electronics manufacturer, and later as a trainer and auditor. This is top notch work. The ESD hat guy within me cringed a bit at seeing the standard bubble wrap and no ESD packaging upon opening that box!
Impressed. Have suffered thru J std 9 times, over 21 years as E tech building OCXOs alone for a very expensive product, repaired multiple units. At the point you started replacing gull wings I would've just said screw it and bought another gpu. Granted you can't buy a decent 2080 anymore, still. Salute. You are the tech I should have been.
This is like watching a cardiac surgeon do a bypass on the heart. So much delicate, time taking and intricate work thoroughly done! Deserves a subscribe and like for the neat explanation as well.
“I’ll be switching out this man’s defective valve with a one that I dissected from a donor pig. I don’t know if it will work, but there’s only one way find out!”
Can't say I learnt about fixing 'cause this is way beyond my field of study, but I did learn that you sir, are an unsung hero. I'm pretty sure that even a year ago, when this vid was uploaded, a new 20X0 card was likely cheaper than the S&H + that state-of-the-art repair job + associated costs. If I lived in the US, I'd gladly play for you to repair my card instead of buying a new one though, even if it meant more $. Would feel safer. The above being said and feeling like I got to add something, I always clean my comp with a vacuum cleaner. Dusters spread the dust, vacuum removes it for good. Cheers!
Dang man, legitimate technical skills here. Well done! Love seeing tech saved from a landfill and back into the hands of an owner for years of use. 2080 still a beast.
I think what you do, and the skill with which you diagnose these issues is amazing. I got a second hand NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750 TI given to me from my nephew earlier this year. It was full of dust, the fans, the bents and the heatsink under the 'window'. before putting it in my PC I had to clean it so I took off all the covers and used a USB air blower to get rid of as much as I could and then I used a natural hair 1" paint brush to get rid of the harder crap between all the fins and vents, and cotton buds with IPA to clean off the gunky stuff from the fan blades. I was never stupid enough to remove the heatsink though, and I had an earthed wire bracelet so it worked beautifully once put back together and installed.
"I was never stupid enough to remove the heatsink though" Strange comment...if you're going to the trouble of cleaning an old card then it's stupid to not take the heatsink off and add new paste.
To say that you are "practically speaking, a wizard" is an understatement. It is refreshing to see that someone knows what they are doing in this regard!
@@HeroicDose I'm yet to see god's so called miracles, but I've seen plenty of normal humans preform them right in front of my own eyes. Doctors, Engineers, scientists and many more if you're struggling to think of examples..
This was fun for me to watch - I trained as an electronics technologist som 50 years back, and get a kick out the changes in circuit board assembly. You sur do know what you are doing and very nice video.
As with any aerosol can, whatever comes out is cooled down significantly and allows condensation to appear on the cold area. So even if there's no water in the can, there's water in the air around you condensing on whatever it colder than the rest of the room. As with anything electronic it's best to use low power electric air dusters, or carefully brush off dust manually. Make sure to always use grounding measures as brushing and or dusting in general will cause static electricity.
Not entirely true. If you are spraying without tilting the can or anything than the gas coming out is by definition the part that has taken heat in and warmed up. The bulk liquid in the tank is what gets cold.
@@WellyngtonDev Actual air compressors, or electronic dusters? As long as you're using an oil-less air compressor, you're sure you have purged the tank & air lines of any liquids....there shouldn't be any issues. Your first couple of times using an air compressor to clean your PC, start at the lowest air pressure possible for your machine, and begin dusting from a good distance away so as to not cause potential damage. Then just experiment with distances and pressures until you find the safest and most effective levels you're confident with. Also.... Be sure to secure any fans from being able to move while cleaning. That way you don't cause them spin-related damage nor unnecessary wear & tear from cleaning, that could have gone towards keeping your system cool...
Yeah I've just recently subbed after getting a TH-cam recommendation to this channel from a Northridgefix video I was watching. It wouldn't surprise me if this channel blows up once the TH-cam algorithm fully kicks into gear. Another RepairTuber I followed called AdamantIT blew up after years of slow growth to 16K then doubled to 33K in a couple of months then clicked past 100K in less than 6mths after that. So it can happen pretty quickly especially when you are producing high quality content like northwestrepair is.
glad to see the channel growing, I swear you were at 24k just the other day, I think people really like seeing cards kept in service at a time when manufactures are charging an arm and a leg for a new one with minimal improvements
Amen! I repair drones that the two major manufacturers (Autel and DJI) desire to be disposable or a new one purchased every two to three years. It is good to see electronics brought back to life and enjoyed, all while keeping them out of the landfill.
@@maxfmfdm My 2080ti ftw3 ultra something or another from Micro Center in August of 2018 was $1800 or so plus tax and the new 4080 is more than twice as fast and is quieter, and cost $550 less plus the inflation since 2018.
@@maxfmfdm no there isn't, for what I use it for it costs less and is twice as fast in the old games I play. Why' can't you grok $1800 in 2018 money is worth more than the numerical difference between that and $1278 in 2023 dollars? It runs my favorite game at the maximum 200 fps it can run at without mods and the fans don't even spin where the 2080ti floated between 90 and 125 fps.
I have to say...... this is O U T S T A N D I N G, not good, not great, not fantastic, not super.... this is this the SUPERLATIVE of OUTSTANDING. BRAVO. Subscribed.
the dedication!! god bless you man, been a dream of mine to be a hardware engineer working/repairing at nvidia but guess i just wasn't cut out for it - watching these makes me feel a little bit of regret thinking i should've pursued hardware engineering a bit harder than i had, keep up the great work - loving watching you and louis rossmann do repairs in such a dedicated way
It is never too late brother, if you have a passion you can do anything. Just remember to be patient with yourself as nothing worth doing is ever easy or instantly attainable.
I’d assume the damage was caused by letting the fans spin freely while blowing in the compressed air. This can damage components because of the back-EMF it causes. Just as power makes a fan spin, a fan spinning can create power and send it back where it would normally be coming from.
I work in the industry, servicing quarter million dollar machines, and I also tell my clients to be extremely careful using air cans, we have seen them fry powersupplies. Plus they dont clean, they just move dust, you need to make sure you move the dust out of the machine, not just deeper into it.
@@clownavenger0 That's probably a good idea I never heard of this potentially causing problems but I can say I've cleaned my PCs since the 80's with canned air and never had a single issue.
It's worth noting that air dusters can spray water as well as air so always allow time for it to evaporate before powering back up, ideally use a hairdryer on a low heat to dry it.
False. They contain neither air nor water. It’s just compressed refrigerant, if you tilt them to far (on most models) you release liquid refrigerant. The liquid refrigerant will quickly flash off components without any residue. Some brands like to put nasty bitter powder in their duster cans, avoid those.
@@kilroy987 I think the video is pointing out that the air duster on the fans causes them to rotate and hence feed power back into the circuit which could damage the electronics of the fan and that could in turn damage the video card, but I was just pointing out another possible cause for video card failure after using an air duster could be water on the circuitry.
@@Dirty_Bear22 I think you're getting confused with freeze spray, the can I have says compressed gas it doesn't say what gas but it's most likely some inert gas and pressurised, but whatever it is it cause freezing on the surface it's sprayed on so you could say it is a refrigerant, again either way freezing produces water from the air, how much and how quickly it dries depends on how much you spray and where it goes, if it gets inside or under components and it's not dry it could be a risk.
amazing, pure unbridled raw fucking talent. I just watch these clips every night its so relaxing seeing someone use their talent to give old devices new life.
What a Pro! I was trained as an electronics tech almost 35 years ago... Worked in the field for 5 years then changed carriers... I remember a lot, but only shadows of what's needed to do anything meaningful. Watching you was entertaining.
I remember in our computer room we had Honeywell techs who repaired cards on the mainframes, mid 1970s. I can't imagine repairs being done at that level today. You are fantastic. Wife has a laptop with a fan problem that I'll drive an ax through as there is NOT a repair person in my area with anything near your skills. Thank you for showing someone somewhere can work with great skill. Angers me spending 800 for a laptop then in 2 years throwing it out. You did very good repair and video.
Great comment! Sadly things today are made to be "recyclable" as they say. In other words more stuff goes in the trash as nothing is made to be easily serviced or to last. That's not saving the environment nor is it helping the pocketbook.
That's how things are right now. In this video, it was at least a 3 hr repair which it hard to justify 100-200/hr to chase a problem on something that getting increasingly outdated.
You are my absolute hero. I understand electronics and I can solder. But how in the world would I even start growing my apprentice-level skills to slowly work my way to hardware wizard. I have so much respect for you; thank you for your inspiration.
This channel should have way more viewers. One he does things way better than a lot of other repairs. I’m not primarily in the computer field, but I can tell you firsthand even as I worked on cars over the years and electronics in the cars. This man does a much more thorough job and actually cares.
I myself have never in over 25 years of blowing out a pc or a card ever damaged a thing. Not saying it's not possible but as for me, never an issue. If you really want to get the dust out of a very nasty system try a small electric leaf blower. You may laugh at this but man does it do a great job! Great video as always NWR.
I used to do a lot of laptop refurbs and I started using an electric "Air bed" pump thing.... it has different nozzles and works just as well. It only cost £5.99 as well lol
Pressurised aerosols have the problem that the air leaving the nozzle is at or below freezing and this can cause water vapour in air to condense onto things. The dude likely shorted out the two components on his GPU by either using an aerosol while the GPU was running or by putting the GPU straight back into his system immediately after spraying it. This is why I too use a compressor.
I use to work for the company that makes the INA3221. I told all my overpaid marketing folks to spend time in the lab to learn labs skills and to understand the nuances of how these widgets work together on a board. You sir are a masterclass. Thank you.
INA3221 if I remember it is made by Texas Instruments and should be a 3 channel current monitor on I2C bus. I used other INA chips for some boards. A few times they failed, get very hot and not detected on the I2C bus.
The level of expertise plus labor in this one video alone made my head explode. This is so much work I could've bought three brand new cards for the amount of effort and expertise I can only imagine went into the actual labor, not to mention all of the experience required to know this, and the equipment. This may be the best video I've ever seen. Not the most entertaining. Sorry not even close. But what a valuable service to TH-cam and to the credibility of people out there who are actually trying to help other people. Thank you for posting this
I just got an air duster and was going to clean my 4090 when I got around to it and I am so glad I saw this before I did it. I will have to be very careful with it
Don't blast sensitive components to hard, and - as others said: block the fans from spinning freely when blasting them with Air, regardless of how funny of a sound they make when doing so, i recommend Toothpicks. If you using canned air give it time to dry (i rather use a compressor). Pro tip: don't do it inside your Apartment and don't forget your power supply.
@@Jojob541 Yeah I was always going to do this too, as I don't want them spinning insanely fast in the wrong direction and damage the bearings. But I will also take it very easy with the circuitry too!
I don't know how you have the patience to do this or learn all of this. I'm grateful that men you like you exist in the world. Thank you for polishing your talent to excellence- it makes something that I would normally find tedious strangely enjoyable to watch. Take care man. You're saving people a lot of stress and grief.
it IS tedious lol. He opened that same gpu like 5 times, after completely resealing it lol. That gpu is massive, theres a lot of screws. Its not hard, but its most definitely tedious. Though, that feeling when at the end, everything works now....thats a feeling to chase, and makes all the tedious actions worth it.
I learned nothing. I only became more confident that it is extremely hard to find the real professional like you. Subscribed and pressed like to watch more videos from you. You are showing a beautiful magic.
I am a tech or 20 years, help desk to executive it, I still to this day am fascinated and jealous to be able to directly board repair, in business so much is literally just “replace” due to time ect. It’s crazy to me how much repairable items get tossed. Awesomely well done sir!
Just like the automotive industry. Why strip and rebuild an alternator when you can just change the whole thing out? You might pay a fitter $50 to remove and replace a $200 new alternator (that has a warranty), or alternatively a qualified auto elect $250 in labour to put $10 in parts to repair the old alternator, that has no or little warranty. Case 1 $250 and 12 months warranty, Case 2 $260 and 3 months (or zero) warranty. Case 1 wins, especially if you can sell your old one for scrap for $30-50. Everything comes down to a price point though.
@@mickanon5607 it’s like we know we have a resource crisis, but we just completely ignore it No qualification of importance. *shrug* I am horrified that as an average person I can see this, but and powerless to do anything about it :(
Today learned that someone so dedicated in the repair field exists. Awesome work with the card. Goes to show that so many cards and parts that users deem unfixable are indeed fixable. Most repairmen these days would give up on the first try. You made my day. Keep the good work up!
Old timer here, glad to see there are still people out there that are not just board swappers. You give me hope about the youth of tomorrow :) At my age my hands are too shakey to do this kind of work any more.
Likely scenario: User noticed card overheat, addressed the symptom with dusting, but fuse finally died at the next power-up because of the other issues draining too much power.
I've used an air compressor over 20 years without issues, I just tape the fans if I'm blowing several GPUs. If I'm just doing one I simply hold one fan at a time.
Great work! You're truly a skilled technician, I hope you were compensated fairly for your time. The thing with repairs like this is that the expertise required and time involved usually outweighs the cost of just replacing it with better, newer hardware. Unless this card has sentimental value to someone or you're doing the repair as a hobby or favor, this type of work just doesn't pay.
I don't know, with a lot of electronics it's true, but assuming you replace this with a similar card (I'm guessing rtx 3070) it's $400. If this takes him 2 hours and he charges $100/hour you're still coming out ahead by a good margin. And you know the card this guy returns to you is a better bet than a used direct replacement.
@@dudeinanofficechair7662 It would appear that you are right, according to his discord, a 20 series repair is only $150+parts. Personally I believe he's selling himself short, I would expect to pay at least $150/hr for this level of knowledge and expertise, more if he's repairing a machine that makes me money. He even mentions that he knows his repairs are very cheap but says he enjoys what he does so, who who am I to tell him to charge more. I do hope that he has some industrial customers who are happy to pay what he's worth because he's worth a lot more than what he charges.
yep. the work done on this card means it's good to go, better to fix than just replace. Cards are fucking expensive these days@@dudeinanofficechair7662
@@dudeinanofficechair7662the replacement of this card is likely in the 600$+ range (2080 Super) in current markets, I'd say this repair was likely economical compared to replacement even at the 3 hour+ mark
You went above and beyond. If I lived in your town I would not hesitate to send things in for repair or ask you to build me a gaming pc! Fantastic work.
As someone who works on cars, I can build my own pc but as far as my tech knowledge goes. This video is amazing! So cool to learn from you, it's crazy you easily you find issues. Would take me ages lol
I can't believe people are still killing their electronics by trying to clean them. Do not clean pc components unless absolutely necessary (thermal throttling, unbearable noise etc..). They can work with dust fine. If it ain't broke don't fix it.
@@brad8122 Very true, people love to overdo it. I open my case twice a year and use a little vacuum/blower I bought on amazon, it blows air slightly faster than you could do with your own breath and that's good enough. Removing the loose debris like that means that it's never an insane amount of buildup either so going crazy isn't needed. Also I'm sure a case with filters over the fans does restrict airflow, but I do like that my case has a "filter" you can remove and wipe down, that catches a lot of the dust and hair keeping the inside of the case pretty tidy.
Man. I diagnose this exact same stuff at work but i have actual schematics made by the design engineers and bins of parts. Bravo to you for doing this on cards you have no engineering support on.
I don't understand much of electronics and an in absolute awe that there are guys like our host here in this vid that can make out what's what in that field and are that amazingly good at it! I would give this guy and this video of his a thumb up even for the presentation he does in it, and for his so pleasant voice and carefully chosen words. Indeed, a guy that's a pleasure to listen to!
Tony's probably doing it correctly, but one thing is not obvious in the time lapse: don't press down on SMT components during soldering. Positioning the component with tweezers during heating is OK, but downward pressure is a defect per J-STD-001. Dimension (G) is the thickness of the solder between the pad and the component, and it is considered the most important characteristic for connection reliability. If you want to try this at home remember to let surface tension level and center the chip while the solder is liquefied.
Its fine for what he's doing, this is not a BGA package where that matters. QFN will often not fully seat when doing rework like this, partly due to different amounts of solder on each pad, hard to avoid without a stencil.
@@abs-nt1ue yes the component is in the correct xy position, but it can float too high if the amount of solder is excessive or the heat hasn't soaked through to the center thermal.
@@jaro6985 I teach soldering professionally and I just want to help everyone get better at it. Before I was a CIT I was a NASA 8739 and MIL-S-2000 QA inspector and hand solderer. I'll share this again, because I was already a certified trainer when I learned this, and it demonstrates how the industry best practices change over time as we learn more about soldering. "Too much solder" used to be a defect. Also, if you're having trouble with SMT parts not leveling during reflow, it's possible you've got cheap solder or contaminated surfaces on your board/chip (very common with repairs). I have the best luck using Kester solder and Chip-Quik paste flux. 1: IPC J-STD-001: 7.4 "Installation of SMT components" Surface mounted device leads or components *shall not* [D1D2D3] be pressed down against the PCB or mating surface during soldering. That D1D2D3 or "defect, all classes" tells you that it's a defect whether you're making a missile guidance system, a web server, or a Tickle-Me Elmo. The kind of defects that IPC considers "okay for what he's doing" would look like: N1A2D3 or A1A2D3, "acceptable for class 1" or "not established for class 1." But when you see D1D2D3 it means that *nobody in industry* has found it to be a reliable process. 2: IPC-A-610 8 "Surface Mount Assemblies": Dimension (G) is the solder fillet from the top of the land to the bottom of the termination. Dimension (G) is the prime parameter in the determination of solder connection reliability for leadless components. A thick (G) is desirable. Additional information related to reliability of surface mount connections is available in IPC-D-279, IPC-SM-785 and IPC-9701. According to industry studies, (G) is *the* most important aspect of the solder connection and if it's thin, there's a greater chance of failure. This information goes for all SMT components *except* BGAs. BGAs are a totally different subject. The type and mass of the solder ball must be chosen for the land size, component weight, and solder alloy; and using too much will always violate minimum electrical clearance.
I really REALLY dig this content. The musical montages when you're repairing and cleaning electronics is hypnotizing. I could watch just that alone all day long. I wish I knew how to get into this sort of thing; it's very interesting to me. Thank you so much for creating this content and sharing your humor, expertise, and knowledge with us all. Keep it up - I know it's not easy to put together videos on top of trying to keep your day to day routines intact. We appreciate it!
We all need to pitch in and help him get a Fluke, he would get so much more joy from the solid and instant readings they give. I'm not shilling for them, I've just used a dozen or more multimeters in the last 15 years and the truth is a Fluke really helps you not second guess yourself because of wavering readings. "The right tool for the job" as it were, helps keep the passion of your work alive.
If the guy wants a fluke multimeter he can buy one himself. They aren't that expensive, and he doesn't seem to be impaired by using whatever he's got. If you're so desperate to give your money away I'm sure there are plenty of local charities you can donate to.
other technicians would have stopped on the first fix. Very rare to see such dedication nowadays. Nice work
Fuses seldom blow for no reason and just because you replace the fuse and it doesn't instantly blow doesn't mean everything is working properly.
More like, a *poor* technician would have stopped at the first fix. As longjohn526 already pointed out, a fuse doesn't blow for no reason.
@@longjohn526 Yep, always look for the cause of the blown fuse, the fuse is the symptom not the problem.
Cause was the blowing fan created reverse voltage, isn't it?
He literally needs to make content. It's bad business to just stop. Content is finite
90% of techs wouldn’t have found all those issues. Seriously incredible job.
Best Buy would try to sell you a new GPU after telling you yours was too trashed to fix.
99%
Yeah, he did a great job and explained very well what was going on in an entertaining way.
I share your opinion (the last sentence). But why is your praise preceded by a wild claim for which you have no data (that absurd 90% random number)? Is that supposed to be some weird kind of reinforcing adjective? So I mean these unknown and probably fictitious other technicians and that you just generally prejudge these (unknown) people. Do you need such weird and disingenuous tricks to make an argument? Sorry, but that is weird behavior. Repair-Technician-Trauma or something?
Also, reality doesn't work that way. How do you think northwestrepair improved his skills? Through training, feedback, practice and learning from mistakes. Your announcement just doesn't make any sense, because if a technician only delivers rubbish, then (to say it nice **g** ) he will eventually be able to look for a new job, or the company will be sued.
those 90% is not named techs
@@dieSpinnt bro this is a TH-cam comment section not a formal report for a repair technician association or something. Some hyperbole is to be expected. I’ve never had a technician do that much on a GPU before. So if you want an anecdotal number, he’s better than 100% of those I’ve experienced.
This is how testing should be performed in all hardware stores. It's not enough just to fix the obvious issue, but to perform a stress test and identify all other problems before calling it a fix. Job well done! Congratulations!
I agree! But on the flip side, the problem is that it likely increases the price of the service & also takes time for the tech to stop & make a phone call to the customer to inform them of what was found. If someone had a limited amount of money & was hoping for an easy quick fix, what are they supposed to do when to get their part back costs more than they have?
@@Akeldama9Or when the service costs more than the item is worth
are we going to mention that he replaced the IC with one from an old ass 1070 unnecessarily and then when he found it wasn't the issue he kept it? no just me?
I thought he replaced it a second time with something else, when the first change didn't help.
@@Akeldama9I guess they have to face they cant afford fixing it then and have to wait🤷♂️
I always dreamed of having this level of electronics knowledge and repair skills.
I thought I had some level of knowledge, but after 1 minute I had same face as the cat had for the rest of the video
Chase your dream. Be patient. Knowledge this extensive takes time, but you might find a new rewarding career too.
Same lol, this the reason I'm doing electronics engineering
Same. I got a pc building game thinking it was gonna do the job
Shocked by the skills! Never see this anymore.
Just a side note: When using compressed air to clean a fan, don't let the fan spin up. It (may) act like a generator and push a high voltage into a controller. I've damaged equipment by not being careful enough.
oh god. that's what I always do. I have an 8psi dry compressor and I just blast it into my case spinning every fan. maybe I shouldn't do that anymore, lol
This is ancient knowledge that’s somehow been forgotten. Can’t believe folks don’t hold the fan while blowing air through.
perhaps im wrong here, but these are brushless fans, they wont generate squat if you spin them up...
So i can let them spin if I disconnect them?
@@StanleyKubick1 yea it basically acts as a generator when you do that
Don't forget this man not only did the repairs but also recorded and edited the video of the whole process! God bless you and your skills!
Yes, thank you
@@northwestrepairhow much to mess with a xts1500 Motorola radio? Believe it's a board issue but not knowledgeable enough to resolve. More and for giggles project of mine.
I can edit and record videos it seems pretty easy to do but can be a lot harder depending on the level of editing required. Meanwhile, fixing these graphics look 100 times harder. Like high school kids edit and record videos all the time, I don't know any who could fix a graphics card like this.
And i also believe he has another day job! My question is... coffee drinker? 🤭
Lol yup that’s how informative videos work
I love seeing electronics repaired rather than going to recycling / landfill. There needs to be more accessible repair shops out there.
needs seriously dedicated people because it's so complicated, and newer tech changes so much in the course of only a few years. I wanted to do IT very badly but I am in a different profession now. Not because I gave up. Because it pays better.
@@HoodrichShinobi Yeah.. that's the thing.. the amount of labor and expertise required to do these repairs is insane! And therefore very expensive. Likely it costs more to do these repairs than it does to just buy a new graphics card. It's a catch-22.
@@crp5591Absolutely true. In North America, anyways. In the Middle East, it's cheaper for labor than new parts.
@@crp5591It's sad that it's so backwards
There would be if people were willing to pay.
TL:DR the dust can had nothing to do with the broken GPU
Thank you sir.
maybe the compressed air rotated the fans so hard that fans produced voltage and sent it back to the card, blowing the fuse and damaging the other components?
@@ArchangelAurora
Isn't it more likely that it's just a coincidence?
@@ArchangelAuroraGPU/CPU fans are VERY bad at generating electricity. If they will be spinning so fast that the blades will be about to break, you'll get maybe 2.5-3 volts/200mA from them, that's without any load, while you need higher voltage and current to run those fans. So there's no way you can generate enough power to damage anything by making those fans to spin. You can use a cheap multimeter and any unneeded fan to do a simple experiment. Prepare to be disappointed.
@@shadowflash705 @shadowflash705 I've had fans spining at 20+ krpms from compressed air, while connected. Nothing ever happened. What WILL damage your fan outputs are high power fans that draw many amps of current. They need a secondary driver that can draw more current. Simple MOSFET should be enough.
Very impressive repair , wish there were more repair shops around with your skills and dedication.
I don't think what he does here will ever be common. It just is'int very practical and i get the feeling if it was common they would charge a lot for it. Like for a card like this you would probably be paying half the price of the card just to fix it.
@@billfred9411That doesn't make sense, if such repairs were common, they would be cheap, not the other way around.
@@zetsubou3704 It was a hypothetical my dude. I already stated its impractical so by nature it means you won't find many people willing to do it which would make it more expensive. I just meant if it was a thing it would not be cheap because all the work it requires. Also there are many things that are common and not cheap as an example a shipping freighter or airplanes.
That's why all tv repair shops are gone. I remember my friends relative growing up had a tv repair shop and it was busy. I even have fuzzy memories of the tv repair guy coming to my place to fix the family tv, pulling out modular boards, etc. These days, your tv is worth 1/3 the price you paid after 2 years, the new models are probably better, and everything is built into 1 or 2 pieces. they're not serviceable without complete diagnostics of individual components. meanwhile, a new 50" tv is $300.
Wish I could entrust my $2,000 RTX4090 card with someone so skillful God forbid anything ever happened to it
Very rare and critical skill set. So many gpus get thrown away once they breakdown and you repaired it like new.
why would someone get it repaired with you can buy new for the same price?
@@BobRooney290whoever can afford to care about sustainability
@@BobRooney290 How much does he charge for a fix like this?
@@BobRooney290 Doubt he charges 1000€ for a fix like this, but ok.
@@JaySilva88a 2080 in 2023 will not cost a thousand euros though.
Im a Bench Jeweler and i work with soldering tiny things into place. i have so much respect for electronic technicians, i find myself bitching when i cant get a stone to seat right on prongs. Then i watch videos like these on my break and i can only imagine the headaches you guys have to go through for checking the quality of your repairs.... you do what you think needs to be done, just to hook it up and run benchmarks for something to still be off, and then start over again. MUCH RESPECT AWESOME VIDEO!
The hard part is the diagnosis. The soldering in this case is something anyone with a bit of experience handling SMD parts, a hot air station and a soldering iron can do. The diagnosis is almost black magic compared to that, especially if you don't have actual schematics or repair manuals from the manufacturer, that requires a lot of experience and a good electronics knowledge base.
@@ska042True, as a apprentice I couldn’t imagine doing anything on a board I don’t know the schematics off.
The PCB is made to repel solder. Just put on the right amount, have enough solder flux heat it up and everything flows into place.
The diagnosis though... oh lord please save us 😂
WHYYYYY DO PEOPLE KEEP SHIPPING EXPENSIVE ELECTRONICS IN EMPTY BOXES TO GET TUMBLED AROUND IN
its only expensive when you have to pay for it yourself
Ask Amazon.
@@CaptainC0RNBREAD unfortunately they didnt answer, i just ordered expensive electronics recently and NONE of them came with any more packing material than a goddamn PIECE OF BROWN PAPER
@@sacredeyes3508 Don't be surprised about Amazon's new "reduced waste" shipping, where they put fragile and sensitive items not in a box, but in a fking PLASTIC mailing envelope!
Ive had a hard drive and processor shipped that way, but hey, if there's the slightest damage at all, I'm letting them pay the return shipping and reshipping a free replacement.
As an author I've had Amazon's subsidiary Createspace ship my books in a box with ONE sheet of brown paper for "packing" well, books are not fragile/breakable, but shifting around inside a box loose they get "rubs" and corner dings, I can't mail a $39 book out to a client that looks like it came from a used book store! Amazone wound up replacing about HALF the books in almost every order, yet they continued shipping them as I described despite having to replace half the books due to "rubs" and cover/corner dings.
Some people just don’t know any better and/or can’t be bothered. It’s a real shame, especially for CRT’s
Honestly this type of repair knowledge and dedication is up there with Doctors and Teachers imo. Truly the backbone of a functioning society. I wish there was more of you
How does repairing a graphics card help society function. It's the trades that make society function. Do you know what separates 3rd world countries from first world countries... running water, sewage and electricity
It was super cool. Impressive skills too
@@jeremywilliamson1194 I think he means electronics repair in general. I'm thinking about how the entire world is run on circuit boards, not all of which can be so easily replaced.
@@jeremywilliamson1194, when it comes to electronic engineering, how do you think modern water, sewage, and electricity runs efficiently?
You doing tricks on it
Seeing a true professional doing work like this is therapeutic. Incredible work Tony!
This is a great showing of why repairs like this one are expensive, without the tools, the expertise, the fine motor skills to manually deal with SMDs and the tools (Like an expensive oscilloscope) It's impossible to fix modern GPUs. Even with all that it still takes both time and effort carefully dismantling and reassembling the card to do testing and diagnostics. Excellent job!
How much does a repair like this usually cost? I'm only asking because if its so expensive, I think it would make more sense just to spend an extra $100-200 (depending on how much the repair would cost) and just get a new card.
The truth is, even to fix a GPU made in the 90s, you'd still need a multimeter, oscilloscope, and dexterous fingers. That part hasn't really changed, much. The part that has changed is the sheer number of teeny tiny booger-sized SMDs on these newer, gigantic cards.
@Yukeena I dont repair GPUs but been doing electronics repair as a side hobby for a couple years. I'd wager that unless the GPU is worth more than $700 US dollars or finding a suitable replacement is not feasible Repairs like this don't make sense. For a sub $500 Card you easily exceed 50% of the value of the GPU brand new. (my personal threshold for recommending just buying a new one.) My reasoning is that even with a great quality repair like this one, there is no telling how the other components service life got affected by the faulty component before the fix so you end up with a card that can last you from years to a couple months at worst and these repairs are done after warranty is gone so the value proposition is not good for cheaper cards. Sadly this is part of the planned obsolescence baked into moder products and why the expertise keeps becoming more rare as time goes on.
yeah im an EE by education and a programer by trade. The vast majority of things it just doesnt make sense to pay someone to fix.
Even an easy fix may take 2 hours to diagnose and affect. Thats gonna need to be at least 50 bucks for the time adn that is for a relatively simple issue.
Like I have these wiz light bulbs I got on clearance for 9 dollars for 3. 2 are dead after 30 days.
I suspect an electrolytic cap in the PSU went bad. Getting the boards out without destroying them would be a job.
All to fix a 3 dollar light builb.
Or I could just go buy another box in ten minutes.
I do want to rip the ESP32s out of them if possible, but havent found a nondestructive way to get the board out.
@@alexisrivera200xable this has zero to do with planned obsolescence
I always assumed GPU repair was a crapshoot - more often then not a waste of time and money. This video has convinced me that there ARE great repair providers. What a great example of dedication to the goal. And hilarious too - "NO SHORTS".😁
I short out all summer long.
Then you assumed correct, GPUs repairs are a crapshoot. It would normally cost you a lot even if that repair would be as simple as one on the video. Still might be worth it, but problem is that its hard to know repair costs until someone will attempt repairing it. And even that check will cost you money. So you can lose money without repairing it if it turns out its not worth it or you will waste money paying for repairs more than this GPU is worth. Overall its not as good as you think.
GPUs are priced in this weird spot where most any repair is more expensive than a new card until you get to the top of the line current Gen ones
Now if you did your own repair it would be worth it and tbh it really isn't hard to get some basic repair knowledge that may save you from contributing to the ewaste issue
@@QuisUtDeus828 That's a fantastic answer, and a cause I really believe in.
@@QuisUtDeus828 It really isn't enough to have the basic repair knowledge. Troubleshooting to determine what needs to be fixed is a bit beyond the basics.
I'm always amazed how people can do surface soldering of such small components. I make a mess just trying to do the simplest soldering on a PCB, but this is just art
I worked in electronics design for four decades and was a fair hand at soldering. What really impresses me is that he can salvage a chip from another card to replace one on the repair unit, and it worked.
@@daveh7720 is it salvaged from another card?
@@edwinbongasyeah he took it from a 1070 parts board
Not to say it's nothing, but it's easier than you would expect. Most of the time you just place the component so it sits about right on the pads, apply hot air, and it'll seat itself into the proper position on its own. I don't consider myself a soldering wizard by any means, but the soldering work required to do this wouldn't be the tough part to me. The really hard part that I have a lot of respect for is diagnosing the issues properly without a schematic or repair manual. That requires a lot of experience. I'd be able to solder the components, and get replacements from a donor board, but I wouldn't know what to do, or what's worth trying!
I was about to say the same. When I’ve tried soldering on a breadboard before, the heat would start to remove adjacent components or burn the pads out.
How does he not disturb the other components that are next to what he’s replacing?
This is how my family thinks I look like when I’m telling them I build PCs. 😂😂
I just let them think that way 😂
"putting together (parts)" is a more accurate term😊
I thought you throw rocks at each other till a computer forms.
@@makuru.42 thats how i have always done it too
@@makuru.42they had to do that to make software before the first compiler was written, nowadays we just get our computers to smash rocks for us programmatically
It is nice to see someone go the extra mile. Like alot of other comments say other repair persons may have stopped when it was "technically" working again. You went above and beyond. Keep up the good work.
8:30 - _Bless you sir, for restoring this classic EVGA. The Studebaker of Graphics Cards._
I worked as an electronics technician for over 15 years... computers, music and stereo equipment, etc. I hated doing SMT parts. Excellent job!
I've been an electronics tech like you since the late 70s and even today I hate doing SMD. I can understand why manufacturers use them - because machines can place them on circuit boards - but they're not made for human hands to deal with!
@@sw6188 that's probably another reason why they like them, don't want people repairing their own stuff now! Companies crow about the environment publicly, but it's all for show, they don't mind filling the planet with e-waste one tiny little bit.
@@eye776 Yes I understand all of that, like I say I have been in electronics since the 70s so I have seen the transition from big bulky power-hungry units to things that will fit in your pocket and run for days on one charge.
The point I was making above is that SMD technology was really not made with human hands in mind.
@@sw6188 That's the point. They don't want human hands to repair their tech so they place THESE little shits all over the electronics that require microscopic precision of a robot and the same amount of microscopic fine aimed soldering heat.
@@KRAFTWERK2K6 Did you even bother to read eye776's comment? A 3-foot long graphics card would not fit inside any case...
Man you like a detective and a medium at the same time - this type of gut feeling shows up after years in industry. Rezpect.
This was incredible! To have someone who takes apart cards and gives them new life is remarkable
Anime
This is the way!
Seriously. Wonderful job!
@@solomoncumquats776This can have so many meanings and I love every single one of them
It's a miracle the GPU survived being shipped like that
I thought the same. I do wonder how it ever got that broke.
As much as I loved EVGA, their fan controller idea was utterly brain dead.
yeah, this was an interesting watch...i have an EVGA 1080Ti with one fan running slow...so i'm gonna investigate the "tuning" settings now.
@@Lainyyyyy
Are You asking "rjs1138" why he would investigate if his problem is due to an erroneous SOFTWARE-Setting, and instead suggesting a "hardware-mod" ??
If so, why, if not what are You replying to?
Best regards.
@onlyeyeno he never tagged the dude you're talking about. If you have to assume who somebody is talking about don't bud in... trust me I've learned that way too. Lol
Seen so many cards need to be warrantied due to the fan/RGB MCU firmware updates going wrong. Definitely seems there would be a safer way of handling that, assumedly via the vbios.
@@sergioh2015 It's butt in, sir.
I don't have any expertise in GPU repair, but seeing him in action makes me curious to learn more about GPU repairs. You are awesome!
Cool, thanks!
@@northwestrepair Ditto! Do builds myself; but being able to dig deeper would be nice to add to my sodering skill. but that heat camera seemed like a eipc help, may I ask what that is? & hopefully things continue :)
Its just a thermal camera addon for your phone. The camera is cool and helps to isolate potential issues but I suspect it will take time and experience for you to actually tell the difference between something that is supposed to warm up vs something that is abnormally warming up too quickly. I suspect if you want to do this yourself, you would need to measure the normal operating temperature of all your components (perhaps using the app or an infra thermometer) as your rig is powering up, left running for a few minutes or longer so you have a set of baselines to compare against.
This is the most educational computer video I have ever seen. I thought I was pretty well-versed in PC building but I never knew most of these stuff.
I've read that gpus shouldn't get over 80 degrees Celsius.
Definitely thorough in post repair troubleshooting, saving the cards and owners future expenses created by initial issue. Sure wish more repair Techs had your ethics and work principles.
Thanks.
@@northwestrepair the thermal paste on gpu chip. Fuck men learn how properly put this on. Only idiot put X on processor.
Crikey, mate. I can't imagine how many GPUs I've thrown away while the fix was something extremely easy for the knowledgeable guys.
However this repair would have been very expensive.
you made it easy to understand for someone who knows a lot about computers but not a lot about hardware repair. fabulous work!
what a tricky one, kind of scary the low resistance after changing that one chip but good thing you keep checking the resistances so thoroughly
It's awesome to watch a pro at work. It's also impressive that you treat the customer's card as if it were your own. No cutting corners, or rushing to "just get it done".
Well, to be honest, he isn't going to do a rush job and cut corners on a card he's using in a video that showcases his dedication right?
Hahaha so dumb
@@TemulonTrue but the point is that he didn't, and he should be commended for doing an amazing job that Ik a lot of people wouldn't have a clue how to do and at the end of the day, that means the gpu won't end up as waste for now but let's hope it stays that way for as long as it can
@@Temulonyep, if this were an actual card repair business it wouldn't really work. The charge out would have to be high enough to cover all the time & most people are just going to put that money towards a new card, just the reality of the world
I wasn't expecting the elaborate "no shorts" pun, and I nearly choked on my food laughing. Well done!
This was recommended at random to me, but it is fascinating and I cannot overstate how impressed I am with your level of knowledge with this technology, and your attention to detail. It’s so cool to see! Kudos.
To think someone can pinpoint these issues with such accuracy and fix em up like it's nothing baffles me. Amazing work!
I pretty much never leave comments, but its people like you that are just absolute gods to me and deserve the best. Your knowlegde about graphics cards is insane to me and thanks for the work you do
I love watching your videos you can tell by how you repair a video card that you love what you do. I’ve seen you stay up till like two in the morning, working on something and not giving up. If I ever need something repaired, it’s going to you.
Agreed.
Great job sir! I think most repairman would stop digging for issues the moment that they successfully launched the card and passed the stress tests. You go the extra mile! If I ever need repair I know where to look for it. Thank you!
We can thank the lacking of additional education of technicians who get taught how to replace parts but nothing about fixing the parts itselves for that
Lol, I can tell you that at my previous job when I killed a computer with compressed air, I put than one in the closet and dragged out a new one for the employee.
@@nikso1496 repairing the parts are impossible and useless.
@@yeahnvmnvm1331Like this one?
I have learned from good advice when using AIR to clean Pc Components with FANS, i always tape down the fans to stop them spinning, Soldering, use the right temp for the job, and photo every part of dissasembly, and support heavy GPU's. Im a total novice, yet have learned the hard way. Interesting and informative content. Kudos
I've always just jammed my fingers in the fan to stop it spinning lol. Taping it might be better
@@dreadfulbadger Whatever works in my book
Compressed air can also have condensation and in some cases it might shoot some of the water out, so be careful with that too.
I'm new to all this and need to clean my pc as it has about 6yrs of dust caked in it. I was just gonna buy a can of dustet and go to town . What should I do?
@@Spocklee 1. Well take the pc outside if the weather permits.
2.Remove the front/back panels.
3.If you have a Hair Dryer with a cool setting use that as a blower.
4. Use a antistatic wrist band if you have one, otherwise earth yourself on a chrome tap.
5. If you know how, remove any/all case fans and brush clean, if you use the blower make sure to hold the fansto stop them spinning, as it can cause damage to the bearings.
6. Remove the GPU and use a combination of the: brush/blower to remove all the dust (hold any fan as you use the blower, and watch the fan blades with the blower, they are easily damages if clumsy.
7. Do the same inside the case, dont touch the memory unless its shrouded, and careful of static.
8. if you remove the heatsink from the cpu, 1st make sure you have some fresh thermal-paste.
9. Then just re-assemble.
Just outstanding. The amount of explanation and showing details and as to why passes your knowledge onto others outstanding! Hope to watch more of your videos soon!
You scared the heck out of me at 6:37 because I was in full screen lmao FANTASTIC repair, wonderful troubleshooting skills
This man really takes pride in his work. We dont see enough of that these days. Bravo sir.
Its the fans free spinning when you blow Canned air through the heat sink, Because an electric motor turns into an alternator generating current so when you blow air through the card it free spins the fan generating current back through the circuit, Most Case fans actually have protection However the problem with EVGAs(amung others) design is that it blows the fuse and can damage other parts of the circuit, because there is no overcurrent protection(typically older case fans could blow Fan headers this way). so I always tell people with Graphics cards when cleaning jam(or press on them slightly) the fans so they don't free spin, I had a 280 EVGA Classified die on me in this way which was fine the card really needed to be water cooled anyways.
Wasn't this myth busted by Linus and the power dude
@@kimberly4275 Uhm What, That is not a myth, Lol. its a fact go spin an LED fan..........
@@nocturnal101ravenous6 The myth is that it generates enough current to damage your pc. Not that it can generate any
@@kimberly4275 3 fans spinning faster than originally intended......If its fast enough to light LEDs in larger case fans WTF do you think, Also I accidentally killed a Dust Buster style EVGA 285 Classified card cleaning it in this way, and I have seen dead fan ports on Motherboards over the years it always is an issue of I cleaned my computer now my fan doesn't work.
It depends on overcurrent protection of the circuit.
It is not a Myth, either link the video or stop spreading bad information.
Also I am 99% sure Gamers Nexus, Jay2Cents and Linus say don't blow and freely spin fans as they have killed ports. Also here is a dead card with a blown fuse after the person states I cleaned it with Compressed air.
So what more do you honestly need? there is no myth to it. Also you can reverse the current.
@@nocturnal101ravenous6 Idk what to tell you. Look at their testing with electroboom.
One of the biggest issues with air dusting is that not many people realize if you spin the fans even if the card isn't plugged it, it can cause a short due to the turbines ramping up speed leading to a discharge of electricity. Mostly harmless but not worth damaging your parts. A big tip for air dusting) Either take the fan off the card itself or place your finger or something else in the way of the fan blades to stop them from spinning, if you do take apart the fan record yourself doing so, so it's easier to place back together and you may as well get used to using a soft bristle brush with 90% proof rubbing alcohol. Taking the pre-cautions won't lead to as many issues.
I don't know about on a graphics card but on case fans you can blow them out with a leaf blower and nothing bad happens.
lmao wow, whenever i clean stuff with fans i try to spin them up as high as possible.... oops 🥲🥲
Dont listen to that guy. He thinks the fans on a GPU have the same function as a alternator.
Myth
@@riddell26no it's true, but most good designs have flyback diodes
I worked in a PCBA repair area for a major electronics manufacturer, and later as a trainer and auditor. This is top notch work. The ESD hat guy within me cringed a bit at seeing the standard bubble wrap and no ESD packaging upon opening that box!
Huge respect for your skills and knowledge
Impressed. Have suffered thru J std 9 times, over 21 years as E tech building OCXOs alone for a very expensive product, repaired multiple units. At the point you started replacing gull wings I would've just said screw it and bought another gpu. Granted you can't buy a decent 2080 anymore, still. Salute. You are the tech I should have been.
This is like watching a cardiac surgeon do a bypass on the heart. So much delicate, time taking and intricate work thoroughly done!
Deserves a subscribe and like for the neat explanation as well.
“I’ll be switching out this man’s defective valve with a one that I dissected from a donor pig. I don’t know if it will work, but there’s only one way find out!”
Can't say I learnt about fixing 'cause this is way beyond my field of study, but I did learn that you sir, are an unsung hero. I'm pretty sure that even a year ago, when this vid was uploaded, a new 20X0 card was likely cheaper than the S&H + that state-of-the-art repair job + associated costs. If I lived in the US, I'd gladly play for you to repair my card instead of buying a new one though, even if it meant more $. Would feel safer.
The above being said and feeling like I got to add something, I always clean my comp with a vacuum cleaner. Dusters spread the dust, vacuum removes it for good. Cheers!
Dang man, legitimate technical skills here. Well done! Love seeing tech saved from a landfill and back into the hands of an owner for years of use. 2080 still a beast.
I think what you do, and the skill with which you diagnose these issues is amazing.
I got a second hand NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750 TI given to me from my nephew earlier this year. It was full of dust, the fans, the bents and the heatsink under the 'window'. before putting it in my PC I had to clean it so I took off all the covers and used a USB air blower to get rid of as much as I could and then I used a natural hair 1" paint brush to get rid of the harder crap between all the fins and vents, and cotton buds with IPA to clean off the gunky stuff from the fan blades. I was never stupid enough to remove the heatsink though, and I had an earthed wire bracelet so it worked beautifully once put back together and installed.
"I was never stupid enough to remove the heatsink though" Strange comment...if you're going to the trouble of cleaning an old card then it's stupid to not take the heatsink off and add new paste.
@@res1492 Its stupid to take off the heatsink for any reason unless you know exactly what you are doing.
I haven't seen this level of service in over a decade. Bravo sir. This is S-tier repairs
your humor is amazing im defo subscribing. that shorts joke got me good 💀
To say that you are "practically speaking, a wizard" is an understatement. It is refreshing to see that someone knows what they are doing in this regard!
I am very supprised that there's someone out there that actually repairs GFX cards !!.
Top job.
From the U.K.
people who can repair graphics cards are magicians to me, good job, mate!
How about guys that design them?
@@kingofdice66A doctor can perform many miracles that god cannot..
@vidurachamathka2317 you mixed God and doctor up pretty sad
@@HeroicDose I'm yet to see god's so called miracles, but I've seen plenty of normal humans preform them right in front of my own eyes. Doctors, Engineers, scientists and many more if you're struggling to think of examples..
@@vidurachamathka2317 colorblind people can't see red, I guess I should believe them that it doesn't exist lol
Fascinating watching you work through the issues. Thank you for giving a damn. I encounter a lot that just dont.
Have to say, I am not easily impressed, but the level and attention to detail you give your repairs is unparralelled! Really good work. A+
Agreed! And then you may get impressed really differently like watching one whole clip of Williams mobile clutch replacement!
You dont watch enough youtube then.
He cracked your ass, now you're impressed
This was fun for me to watch - I trained as an electronics technologist som 50 years back, and get a kick out the changes in circuit board assembly. You sur do know what you are doing and very nice video.
As with any aerosol can, whatever comes out is cooled down significantly and allows condensation to appear on the cold area. So even if there's no water in the can, there's water in the air around you condensing on whatever it colder than the rest of the room.
As with anything electronic it's best to use low power electric air dusters, or carefully brush off dust manually.
Make sure to always use grounding measures as brushing and or dusting in general will cause static electricity.
very well said. And what do you think about the air compresser machines?
Not entirely true. If you are spraying without tilting the can or anything than the gas coming out is by definition the part that has taken heat in and warmed up.
The bulk liquid in the tank is what gets cold.
@@WellyngtonDev
Actual air compressors, or electronic dusters?
As long as you're using an oil-less air compressor, you're sure you have purged the tank & air lines of any liquids....there shouldn't be any issues.
Your first couple of times using an air compressor to clean your PC, start at the lowest air pressure possible for your machine, and begin dusting from a good distance away so as to not cause potential damage.
Then just experiment with distances and pressures until you find the safest and most effective levels you're confident with.
Also.... Be sure to secure any fans from being able to move while cleaning. That way you don't cause them spin-related damage nor unnecessary wear & tear from cleaning, that could have gone towards keeping your system cool...
That or do it in a room with an active dehumidifier.
It's probably spinning up the fans generating some voltage more then the cold from the can that caused the damage.
Honestly if the guy couldn't even be bother to ship it properly..
You are an amazing technician though! Skills to pay the bills!
Your vidoes are very under rated! I hope you get the attention you rightfully deserve
Working on it!
Yeah I've just recently subbed after getting a TH-cam recommendation to this channel from a Northridgefix video I was watching. It wouldn't surprise me if this channel blows up once the TH-cam algorithm fully kicks into gear.
Another RepairTuber I followed called AdamantIT blew up after years of slow growth to 16K then doubled to 33K in a couple of months then clicked past 100K in less than 6mths after that. So it can happen pretty quickly especially when you are producing high quality content like northwestrepair is.
glad to see the channel growing, I swear you were at 24k just the other day, I think people really like seeing cards kept in service at a time when manufactures are charging an arm and a leg for a new one with minimal improvements
Yes these older cards are still great for gaming considering price to performance has not gone up enough on the new ones.
Amen!
I repair drones that the two major manufacturers (Autel and DJI) desire to be disposable or a new one purchased every two to three years.
It is good to see electronics brought back to life and enjoyed, all while keeping them out of the landfill.
@@maxfmfdm My 2080ti ftw3 ultra something or another from Micro Center in August of 2018 was $1800 or so plus tax and the new 4080 is more than twice as fast and is quieter, and cost $550 less plus the inflation since 2018.
@@hithere7382 you gotta be trolling bro there is so much wrong with what you just said
@@maxfmfdm no there isn't, for what I use it for it costs less and is twice as fast in the old games I play. Why' can't you grok $1800 in 2018 money is worth more than the numerical difference between that and $1278 in 2023 dollars?
It runs my favorite game at the maximum 200 fps it can run at without mods and the fans don't even spin where the 2080ti floated between 90 and 125 fps.
The level of dedication and experience this guy has. Love it.
I have to say...... this is O U T S T A N D I N G, not good, not great, not fantastic, not super.... this is this the SUPERLATIVE of OUTSTANDING.
BRAVO. Subscribed.
the dedication!! god bless you man, been a dream of mine to be a hardware engineer working/repairing at nvidia but guess i just wasn't cut out for it - watching these makes me feel a little bit of regret thinking i should've pursued hardware engineering a bit harder than i had, keep up the great work - loving watching you and louis rossmann do repairs in such a dedicated way
you can still start doing it
It is never too late brother, if you have a passion you can do anything. Just remember to be patient with yourself as nothing worth doing is ever easy or instantly attainable.
its never to late friend. I always wanted to fly small planes. Im 49 and just got my private pilots license. If you have the means - go for it!
yeah you failed once, but you can give it another shot! Go! Figure out why you failed last time, solve that, then try again!
I’d assume the damage was caused by letting the fans spin freely while blowing in the compressed air.
This can damage components because of the back-EMF it causes. Just as power makes a fan spin, a fan spinning can create power and send it back where it would normally be coming from.
I work in the industry, servicing quarter million dollar machines, and I also tell my clients to be extremely careful using air cans, we have seen them fry powersupplies. Plus they dont clean, they just move dust, you need to make sure you move the dust out of the machine, not just deeper into it.
Yeah i always make sure to put a finger on fans so the don't spin too much when cleaning.
@@clownavenger0 That's probably a good idea I never heard of this potentially causing problems but I can say I've cleaned my PCs since the 80's with canned air and never had a single issue.
@@ackillesbac yeah, I think people buys these cleaners because they dont want to open the GPU and blow the air with dust into the graphic card lol
I must have been lucky in the past when I used an air compressor to blow out my PCs.
It's worth noting that air dusters can spray water as well as air so always allow time for it to evaporate before powering back up, ideally use a hairdryer on a low heat to dry it.
False. They contain neither air nor water. It’s just compressed refrigerant, if you tilt them to far (on most models) you release liquid refrigerant. The liquid refrigerant will quickly flash off components without any residue. Some brands like to put nasty bitter powder in their duster cans, avoid those.
I was wondering why the card would stop working after being air dusted.
@@kilroy987 two options: the air press was to high and damaged the components, or gpu was already damaged before the cleaning proccess
@@kilroy987 I think the video is pointing out that the air duster on the fans causes them to rotate and hence feed power back into the circuit which could damage the electronics of the fan and that could in turn damage the video card, but I was just pointing out another possible cause for video card failure after using an air duster could be water on the circuitry.
@@Dirty_Bear22 I think you're getting confused with freeze spray, the can I have says compressed gas it doesn't say what gas but it's most likely some inert gas and pressurised, but whatever it is it cause freezing on the surface it's sprayed on so you could say it is a refrigerant, again either way freezing produces water from the air, how much and how quickly it dries depends on how much you spray and where it goes, if it gets inside or under components and it's not dry it could be a risk.
amazing, pure unbridled raw fucking talent. I just watch these clips every night its so relaxing seeing someone use their talent to give old devices new life.
What a Pro! I was trained as an electronics tech almost 35 years ago... Worked in the field for 5 years then changed carriers... I remember a lot, but only shadows of what's needed to do anything meaningful. Watching you was entertaining.
What career did u change to ?
I remember in our computer room we had Honeywell techs who repaired cards on the mainframes, mid 1970s. I can't imagine repairs being done at that level today. You are fantastic. Wife has a laptop with a fan problem that I'll drive an ax through as there is NOT a repair person in my area with anything near your skills. Thank you for showing someone somewhere can work with great skill. Angers me spending 800 for a laptop then in 2 years throwing it out. You did very good repair and video.
Great comment! Sadly things today are made to be "recyclable" as they say. In other words more stuff goes in the trash as nothing is made to be easily serviced or to last. That's not saving the environment nor is it helping the pocketbook.
That's how things are right now. In this video, it was at least a 3 hr repair which it hard to justify 100-200/hr to chase a problem on something that getting increasingly outdated.
@@cactusjackNV that is why climate change and going green is a huge $cam
if just a bad fan, may be repairable or replaceable
You are my absolute hero. I understand electronics and I can solder. But how in the world would I even start growing my apprentice-level skills to slowly work my way to hardware wizard. I have so much respect for you; thank you for your inspiration.
Understand basic electronics then the component functions on the gpu at a high level I guess?
This channel should have way more viewers. One he does things way better than a lot of other repairs. I’m not primarily in the computer field, but I can tell you firsthand even as I worked on cars over the years and electronics in the cars. This man does a much more thorough job and actually cares.
I myself have never in over 25 years of blowing out a pc or a card ever damaged a thing. Not saying it's not possible but as for me, never an issue. If you really want to get the dust out of a very nasty system try a small electric leaf blower. You may laugh at this but man does it do a great job! Great video as always NWR.
I've been using an air compressor regulated at 120psi for many years on my PCs and never a problem. They are pretty sturdy.
I used to do a lot of laptop refurbs and I started using an electric "Air bed" pump thing.... it has different nozzles and works just as well. It only cost £5.99 as well lol
Pressurised aerosols have the problem that the air leaving the nozzle is at or below freezing and this can cause water vapour in air to condense onto things. The dude likely shorted out the two components on his GPU by either using an aerosol while the GPU was running or by putting the GPU straight back into his system immediately after spraying it. This is why I too use a compressor.
Very, very impressive. As a software engineer, I know next to nothing about hardware so watching you work looks like bonafide magic to me ;-)
I use to work for the company that makes the INA3221. I told all my overpaid marketing folks to spend time in the lab to learn labs skills and to understand the nuances of how these widgets work together on a board. You sir are a masterclass. Thank you.
INA3221 if I remember it is made by Texas Instruments and should be a 3 channel current monitor on I2C bus. I used other INA chips for some boards. A few times they failed, get very hot and not detected on the I2C bus.
The level of expertise plus labor in this one video alone made my head explode. This is so much work I could've bought three brand new cards for the amount of effort and expertise I can only imagine went into the actual labor, not to mention all of the experience required to know this, and the equipment. This may be the best video I've ever seen. Not the most entertaining. Sorry not even close. But what a valuable service to TH-cam and to the credibility of people out there who are actually trying to help other people. Thank you for posting this
Love the amount of detail in all the diagnostic processes, making sure every aspect works perfectly before sending them back!
I just got an air duster and was going to clean my 4090 when I got around to it and I am so glad I saw this before I did it. I will have to be very careful with it
keep the fans from turning and you should probably be fine.
Don't blast sensitive components to hard, and - as others said: block the fans from spinning freely when blasting them with Air, regardless of how funny of a sound they make when doing so, i recommend Toothpicks.
If you using canned air give it time to dry (i rather use a compressor).
Pro tip: don't do it inside your Apartment and don't forget your power supply.
@@Jojob541 Yeah I was always going to do this too, as I don't want them spinning insanely fast in the wrong direction and damage the bearings.
But I will also take it very easy with the circuitry too!
I don't know how you have the patience to do this or learn all of this. I'm grateful that men you like you exist in the world. Thank you for polishing your talent to excellence- it makes something that I would normally find tedious strangely enjoyable to watch. Take care man. You're saving people a lot of stress and grief.
it IS tedious lol. He opened that same gpu like 5 times, after completely resealing it lol. That gpu is massive, theres a lot of screws. Its not hard, but its most definitely tedious. Though, that feeling when at the end, everything works now....thats a feeling to chase, and makes all the tedious actions worth it.
I learned nothing. I only became more confident that it is extremely hard to find the real professional like you.
Subscribed and pressed like to watch more videos from you. You are showing a beautiful magic.
I am a tech or 20 years, help desk to executive it, I still to this day am fascinated and jealous to be able to directly board repair, in business so much is literally just “replace” due to time ect. It’s crazy to me how much repairable items get tossed.
Awesomely well done sir!
Just like the automotive industry. Why strip and rebuild an alternator when you can just change the whole thing out? You might pay a fitter $50 to remove and replace a $200 new alternator (that has a warranty), or alternatively a qualified auto elect $250 in labour to put $10 in parts to repair the old alternator, that has no or little warranty. Case 1 $250 and 12 months warranty, Case 2 $260 and 3 months (or zero) warranty. Case 1 wins, especially if you can sell your old one for scrap for $30-50. Everything comes down to a price point though.
@@mickanon5607 it’s like we know we have a resource crisis, but we just completely ignore it No qualification of importance. *shrug* I am horrified that as an average person I can see this, but and powerless to do anything about it :(
this is the only guy i would trust with my electronics.. very thorough and attention to detail
Today learned that someone so dedicated in the repair field exists. Awesome work with the card. Goes to show that so many cards and parts that users deem unfixable are indeed fixable. Most repairmen these days would give up on the first try. You made my day. Keep the good work up!
Old timer here, glad to see there are still people out there that are not just board swappers. You give me hope about the youth of tomorrow :)
At my age my hands are too shakey to do this kind of work any more.
Where did a million views came from, anybody knows ?
Showed up on my home page. Good video.
Showed up on my suggestions after an LTT video. But I'm sub'ed... 😁 Great videos!
This showed up on my recommended videos after watching a JayzTwoCents video. Looks like you won todays TH-cam algorithm!
This was really interesting, you must have been blessed from the algorithm
Just randomly showed up on my youtube front page
Very strange that cleaning the card with compressed air would cause all these failures! Still a very impressive repair
Likely scenario: User noticed card overheat, addressed the symptom with dusting, but fuse finally died at the next power-up because of the other issues draining too much power.
I doubt that the cause was that. Air duster blower is different to compressed air the video needs to clarify that!
Compressed air actually generates a lot of ESD. It probably caused that IC to go bad and short out the 12V rail.
I've used an air compressor over 20 years without issues, I just tape the fans if I'm blowing several GPUs. If I'm just doing one I simply hold one fan at a time.
@@bensonak47 For me compressed air is the bottle not the machine with motor
Great work! You're truly a skilled technician, I hope you were compensated fairly for your time.
The thing with repairs like this is that the expertise required and time involved usually outweighs the cost of just replacing it with better, newer hardware. Unless this card has sentimental value to someone or you're doing the repair as a hobby or favor, this type of work just doesn't pay.
I don't know, with a lot of electronics it's true, but assuming you replace this with a similar card (I'm guessing rtx 3070) it's $400. If this takes him 2 hours and he charges $100/hour you're still coming out ahead by a good margin. And you know the card this guy returns to you is a better bet than a used direct replacement.
@@dudeinanofficechair7662 It would appear that you are right, according to his discord, a 20 series repair is only $150+parts. Personally I believe he's selling himself short, I would expect to pay at least $150/hr for this level of knowledge and expertise, more if he's repairing a machine that makes me money. He even mentions that he knows his repairs are very cheap but says he enjoys what he does so, who who am I to tell him to charge more.
I do hope that he has some industrial customers who are happy to pay what he's worth because he's worth a lot more than what he charges.
yep. the work done on this card means it's good to go, better to fix than just replace. Cards are fucking expensive these days@@dudeinanofficechair7662
@@dudeinanofficechair7662the replacement of this card is likely in the 600$+ range (2080 Super) in current markets, I'd say this repair was likely economical compared to replacement even at the 3 hour+ mark
You went above and beyond. If I lived in your town I would not hesitate to send things in for repair or ask you to build me a gaming pc! Fantastic work.
I really love all your videos, especially the time lapse fixes. Always interesting stuff
As someone who works on cars, I can build my own pc but as far as my tech knowledge goes. This video is amazing! So cool to learn from you, it's crazy you easily you find issues. Would take me ages lol
I can't believe how much dedication you put into this fix. You're truly amazing.
I can't believe people are still killing their electronics by trying to clean them.
Do not clean pc components unless absolutely necessary (thermal throttling, unbearable noise etc..). They can work with dust fine.
If it ain't broke don't fix it.
@@brad8122 Very true, people love to overdo it. I open my case twice a year and use a little vacuum/blower I bought on amazon, it blows air slightly faster than you could do with your own breath and that's good enough. Removing the loose debris like that means that it's never an insane amount of buildup either so going crazy isn't needed.
Also I'm sure a case with filters over the fans does restrict airflow, but I do like that my case has a "filter" you can remove and wipe down, that catches a lot of the dust and hair keeping the inside of the case pretty tidy.
@@brad8122 My CPU fan screams like a banshee every time it boots or wakes up. An air blaster fixed it... for a week. More air blasting maybe...
Why wouldent he? He makes no money if it isnt fixed and he has youtube as motivation. I couldent believe he would not do it.
Man. I diagnose this exact same stuff at work but i have actual schematics made by the design engineers and bins of parts. Bravo to you for doing this on cards you have no engineering support on.
Board-level repair is awesome. Good going!
I don't understand much of electronics and an in absolute awe that there are guys like our host here in this vid that can make out what's what in that field and are that amazingly good at it! I would give this guy and this video of his a thumb up even for the presentation he does in it, and for his so pleasant voice and carefully chosen words. Indeed, a guy that's a pleasure to listen to!
Amazing repair. Intuitive diagnostic based on experience and knowledge. I wish I had that expertise to repair my own stuff. Nice work!
Using a leaf blower, I cleaned my PC at least 100 times over the past 20 years. Never had a single problem.
Tony's probably doing it correctly, but one thing is not obvious in the time lapse: don't press down on SMT components during soldering. Positioning the component with tweezers during heating is OK, but downward pressure is a defect per J-STD-001. Dimension (G) is the thickness of the solder between the pad and the component, and it is considered the most important characteristic for connection reliability. If you want to try this at home remember to let surface tension level and center the chip while the solder is liquefied.
Its fine for what he's doing, this is not a BGA package where that matters. QFN will often not fully seat when doing rework like this, partly due to different amounts of solder on each pad, hard to avoid without a stencil.
@@jaro6985 The tension of the melted solder automatically guides the pins to the correct position on the pad.
@@abs-nt1ue yes the component is in the correct xy position, but it can float too high if the amount of solder is excessive or the heat hasn't soaked through to the center thermal.
@@jaro6985 I teach soldering professionally and I just want to help everyone get better at it. Before I was a CIT I was a NASA 8739 and MIL-S-2000 QA inspector and hand solderer. I'll share this again, because I was already a certified trainer when I learned this, and it demonstrates how the industry best practices change over time as we learn more about soldering. "Too much solder" used to be a defect.
Also, if you're having trouble with SMT parts not leveling during reflow, it's possible you've got cheap solder or contaminated surfaces on your board/chip (very common with repairs). I have the best luck using Kester solder and Chip-Quik paste flux.
1: IPC J-STD-001: 7.4 "Installation of SMT components" Surface mounted device leads or components *shall not* [D1D2D3] be pressed down against the PCB or mating surface during soldering.
That D1D2D3 or "defect, all classes" tells you that it's a defect whether you're making a missile guidance system, a web server, or a Tickle-Me Elmo.
The kind of defects that IPC considers "okay for what he's doing" would look like: N1A2D3 or A1A2D3, "acceptable for class 1" or "not established for class 1." But when you see D1D2D3 it means that *nobody in industry* has found it to be a reliable process.
2: IPC-A-610 8 "Surface Mount Assemblies": Dimension (G) is the solder fillet from the top of the land to the
bottom of the termination. Dimension (G) is the prime parameter in the determination of solder connection reliability for
leadless components. A thick (G) is desirable. Additional information related to reliability of surface mount connections is
available in IPC-D-279, IPC-SM-785 and IPC-9701.
According to industry studies, (G) is *the* most important aspect of the solder connection and if it's thin, there's a greater chance of failure.
This information goes for all SMT components *except* BGAs. BGAs are a totally different subject. The type and mass of the solder ball must be chosen for the land size, component weight, and solder alloy; and using too much will always violate minimum electrical clearance.
thanks for pointing out. I have a repair shop and i do soldering. Ignore the idiot who says "its fine".
I really REALLY dig this content. The musical montages when you're repairing and cleaning electronics is hypnotizing. I could watch just that alone all day long. I wish I knew how to get into this sort of thing; it's very interesting to me. Thank you so much for creating this content and sharing your humor, expertise, and knowledge with us all. Keep it up - I know it's not easy to put together videos on top of trying to keep your day to day routines intact. We appreciate it!
We all need to pitch in and help him get a Fluke, he would get so much more joy from the solid and instant readings they give.
I'm not shilling for them, I've just used a dozen or more multimeters in the last 15 years and the truth is a Fluke really helps you not second guess yourself because of wavering readings. "The right tool for the job" as it were, helps keep the passion of your work alive.
If the guy wants a fluke multimeter he can buy one himself. They aren't that expensive, and he doesn't seem to be impaired by using whatever he's got. If you're so desperate to give your money away I'm sure there are plenty of local charities you can donate to.
Big respect and adoration on your GPU repairing skill. 🔥
to be honest, in your newer videos I miss the shorts jokes, please i beg, bring them back !