4 STICKs DDR5 + XMP = NO BOOT .... Why It's still an issue! [+ tips & Workarounds]

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  • 4 Stick DDR5 XMP is still an issue... We need to talk! And some tips how to fix it.
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    4:57 4 Stick XMP history
    5:25 Enabling XMP
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    11:16 6000MHz 4 Sticks XMP
    12:40 6000MT/s boot/post issues...
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    13:45 Concluding the 4 STICK XMP
    16:20 RAM Tips for Creators
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  • @theTechNotice
    @theTechNotice  ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Here's an update/explanation to this video: th-cam.com/video/wzVZgTP2204/w-d-xo.html

    • @wblebon
      @wblebon 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I have AMD build same problem with the Asus Tuf X670E motherboard first dual (kingstom ram 2×16) channel works on 6000mhz. But if use 4 dual channel it not boot up to windows. Strange things is you can see and hear fans spinning plus all ram have rbg light up but black screen. So issue is not the ram stick but need a firmware update ???

  • @appuswami6611
    @appuswami6611 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    OMG. I was WAITING for someone to mention this! Am so glad that you did.

  • @suroot
    @suroot ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was surprisingly entertaining to watch someone perform the little tedious details to make a machine function properly. Which is something I do often. Good information. Thank you.

  • @colinhoover5153
    @colinhoover5153 ปีที่แล้ว

    love the info on ram!b With so many brands out there it is so easy to over spend! All this info is helping me see how much I need, what speeds and what I don't need! Thank you!

  • @ryosaeba6486
    @ryosaeba6486 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This guy was really helpful for building a new pc, I had my Asus rog mobo, Corsair DDR5 ram (6000mhz) x 4 stick and intel i9 13900k, 13 gen, turn on XMP, and voila no boot. I even update the mobo BIOS and driver on Windows 11 with no luck.
    I haven’t tried to take out 2 rams yet, but I am pretty sure this will solve my issue. So anyone who wants to buy 4 sticks, do some research first since overclocking is still not stable with gen 12/13th mobo, unless you are confident with changing Voltages for CPU or memory. Good job mate.

  • @ChatGTA345
    @ChatGTA345 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    Thank you for being one of only a few TH-camrs to talk about this issue. If feel like creators have been left out by the manufacturers for this gen 😕

    • @Animatormohit
      @Animatormohit ปีที่แล้ว +4

      same with amd ... got 7900x and 16x4 ddr5 6000mhz ram sticks .... only able to run ram @3600 mhz with timings 40 40 76 properly ... 3600+ and pc starts crashing and boot slow downs takes upto 70+ seconds sometimes to boot to windows !! what a waste of money

    • @frizzlefry1921
      @frizzlefry1921 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The clock speed of the ram is memory controller/ motherboard dependant. 2 will always clock faster than 4 though. On a like for like comparison.

    • @moriyokiri3229
      @moriyokiri3229 ปีที่แล้ว

      i'm crying something please think of the "creators"

    • @ChatGTA345
      @ChatGTA345 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@moriyokiri3229 I saw Corsair made 48GB memory modules available recently, not sure if they're compatible with AM5 now but they enable 96GB or 192GB memory total, maybe something to look into!

  • @alpenfoxvideo7255
    @alpenfoxvideo7255 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm waiting for you to test this on 13 gen, very interested in upgrading next spring and thanks for your work!

    • @suthtokcraew1227
      @suthtokcraew1227 ปีที่แล้ว

      13th? same. xmp can't works with 4 sticks of ram

    • @alpenfoxvideo7255
      @alpenfoxvideo7255 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@suthtokcraew1227 AHOC youtube channel got 4 sticks of 16GB sticks running at 6000mhz

  • @GainesvilleKen
    @GainesvilleKen ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Wow, at least those of us who tried without knowing all the problems have the consolation of not being alone. Thank you. I tried everything to stabilize Windows 11 running 128GB without XMP on a z790 board. Ok for a few hours, then freeze, freeze, freeze at stock speeds. Latest BIOS. Wasn't a problem with CPU or paste or cooling, just this issue you were talking about four months ago! Cheers!

    • @theTechNotice
      @theTechNotice  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's the imc of the CPU, most likely :)

    • @GainesvilleKen
      @GainesvilleKen ปีที่แล้ว

      @@theTechNotice Just noticed Asus posted a new BIOS version for Maximus z790 Hero. Like a moth to a flame...

    • @theanglerfish
      @theanglerfish ปีที่แล้ว +1

      win 11 is a mess but one thing worked better and that was that damn DOCP😮‍💨but i leave it stock and using w10 whatever it´s not worth it💁‍♂

  • @outlet6989
    @outlet6989 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This finally answers the questions concerning "Plug and Play," which has often been called "Plug and Pray." I've been building PCs since the late 1980s; remember MS-DOS and early individual memory chips? None of this is new to me. Problems like this are just a part of building a PC. Sometimes you must learn to live with it or go crazy. Don't worry; just let someone else figure it all out. Hot running DRAM? You can purchase small fan DRAM coolers to solve that.

  • @MarkH163
    @MarkH163 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Your videos have been very helpful and informative! Yes, G. Skill DDR 5 5600 kept getting BSODs (I thought a DIMM slot was bad) running on ProArt Z690 Creator Wifi mobo with i9-12900K, new build Bios 2004 & GeForce RTX 3090..however, runs great on 2 sticks at 5600. I don't want to have to continually do tweaks to run 4 sticks. Thank you for your update!

  • @brendansmith945
    @brendansmith945 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you, you're the only one I've found answers the question 2 vs 4 DDR5 sticks

  • @johnvilseck6065
    @johnvilseck6065 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Your conclusion is on point. You want to build your PC then use it. Not tune the parts because of glitches from the manufacturer's end. GREAT POINT. This philosophy should be applied to CPUs and GPUs as well unless you're an enthusiast.

  • @EL_N0IR_2201
    @EL_N0IR_2201 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the info and tips boss🌟

  • @MichaelMortensen
    @MichaelMortensen ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks; just updated my 2x32GB Kingston Fury Beast RGB DDR5-5200 with an extra set on Asus Z690-Plus with i9-12900KF CPU; did not work with the advertised 5200 Mhz. Troubleshooting and found your channel. Already running latest and greatest BIOS. Will keep an eye out here - thank you for the detailed video.

  • @michaelcaballero8853
    @michaelcaballero8853 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks so much for this video. I had given up on enabling XMP with my 4x16gb 5200mhz DDR kingston fury ram. I have a msi z690-a pro with a 12700k cpu and updating the bios finally posted. I haven't run any benchmarks but it posts and does everyday tasks just fine.

    • @sadiquldey9095
      @sadiquldey9095 ปีที่แล้ว

      Have you tried testing with memtest86?

  • @13Cubed
    @13Cubed ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I built a 12900KS with the ProArt Z690 and 128GB of DDR5. As you highlighted in this video, I had continuous issues trying to get the sticks to operate at anything above base clock. The system would refuse to POST and usually required me to remove the other two sticks of RAM before it would even boot again. Every time a new BIOS version was released for that board. I immediately installed it, hoping it would correct the issues, but it never did, to include the very latest version with 13th Gen support. I dropped everything on eBay and built a Threadripper PRO 5975WX with 256GB of ECC DDR4. It will be years before I even attempt to mess with DDR5 again. Not impressed.

    • @Finsterwald_
      @Finsterwald_ ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Good decision. Especially with the ECC rams. You will have an amazingly stable workstation. The only thing I don’t like about Threadripper builds is the lack of nice mainboards. I found most of them not really looking good.

    • @Finsterwald_
      @Finsterwald_ ปีที่แล้ว

      @Ms Moon Boo done mate. I was a little too fast. sorry for that :-)

    • @Finsterwald_
      @Finsterwald_ ปีที่แล้ว

      @Ms Moon Boo I also deleted the other comment.

    • @stage666
      @stage666 ปีที่แล้ว

      why are you so rich?

    • @user-pz2gw1on4i
      @user-pz2gw1on4i 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i mean..... the reason is due to ddr5 using 4 seperate channels on 2 sticks.. 4 sticks = 8octo if single sided.

  • @siddhu14
    @siddhu14 ปีที่แล้ว

    So useful. Thanks for the explanation 🙏🏽
    What about 13th gen? Same issue prevails? The issue is only because of the motherboard??

  • @spirosalmpanis6694
    @spirosalmpanis6694 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you plan to test the crucial 128Gb, which have default speed @4800? It's also listed at the Pugets recommended system for Davinci resolve. Thank you for all the info, keep up the excellent work!

  • @johnpaulbacon8320
    @johnpaulbacon8320 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this well done video.

  • @aleksmihovable
    @aleksmihovable ปีที่แล้ว

    You really good at explaining thank you

  • @Talk2Giuseppe
    @Talk2Giuseppe ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! BTW: What keyboard is that in the video? Looks slick!

  • @aleksmihovable
    @aleksmihovable ปีที่แล้ว

    This helped a lot thank you

  • @stevegibson743
    @stevegibson743 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fantastic video, thank you. I am having the exact same issues with my new computer. Just bought the Corsair Vengeance i8100 that came with 2 sticks of 32Gb Dominator DDR5 ram clocked at 6,000MHz. Tried installing 2 more 32 Gb sticks of the exact same ram. Same speed, size same everything and the new computer would not go more than 3 min. without a crash and need to reboot. I even got 2 blue screens and total system lock up in the first hour. When I pulled the new ram back out, everything started working great. Also, when I removed the added RAM, it was very hot to the touch. About to watch your update video. Hope it has a solution to the problem.

  • @TroubleChute
    @TroubleChute ปีที่แล้ว +3

    XMP my Z790 AORA Master motherboard won't boot with 128G (4x32) G.Skill 6000 MHz and XMP enabled.
    I want to try 5200 with "manual xmp"... But yeah..
    Will changing timings manually help? I assume making the timings 'worse' even a small bit may improve compatability?

    • @n4ul17o
      @n4ul17o ปีที่แล้ว

      Hello. I have the same problem as you but on an Asus HERO Z690. After seeing a video of the ASUS ProArt Z790 where they put 4 sticks of RAM at 6000MT/s running without any problem, I have considered the option of buying that motherboard. However, seeing that you're having problems with a Z790, I'm not sure I do anymore. The video in question is titled "128GB DDR5-6000 Kingston FURY BEAST Intel XMP Certified"

    • @TroubleChute
      @TroubleChute ปีที่แล้ว

      @@n4ul17o If it's a kit of 128, it should work fine. Combining 2 kits probably wont though, like mine.

    • @Khungersumit
      @Khungersumit 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      having same problem, withn Z790, 3 G.skills DDR5 sticks 16,32 and 16GB (slots used 12,4) not able to enable XMP. currently running at speed of 4000MHZ

  • @Black_Onyx
    @Black_Onyx ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Like you said, ram, cpu and boards manufacturers really need to solve this with 4 sticks!!!

  • @joereneevangelistacruz198
    @joereneevangelistacruz198 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    @thetechnotice
    hi there, do you think it can run now the 5600mhz 4x16gb in XMP2 with the newer bios? its now 2024.. thank you!

  • @danieldegraaf
    @danieldegraaf ปีที่แล้ว

    Really interesting and helpful thank you for this I have lots of issues with 4 sticks and XMP. Doupt if I should go for 4x8gb non XMP or 2x8gb with XMP with Kingston.

  • @shreyasdharashivkar8027
    @shreyasdharashivkar8027 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video is Awesome man, interesting

  • @tronotrond
    @tronotrond ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the in-depth video. I got a Ryzen 7590x setup myself with 2 sets of 2x32GB kits. Even at the stock bios speeds it was very unstable, and I ended up returning my first motherboard because of it. Having the same issue on the next board, I ended up having to de-clock and up the voltage on the RAM manually to get it stable. So far I have 4200MHz at CL32 stable. Far from the advertised 5800MHz on the sticks. I do hope this is all fixable with future updates, and not hardware limitations.

    • @ChatGTA345
      @ChatGTA345 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not even at 4800 stable? I'd totally go for it they worked without XMP at that level, but 4200 CL32 is basically 2x worse than 3600 CL16 😕

    • @tronotrond
      @tronotrond ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ChatGTA345 with the latest bios update, I've been able to get 4800 cl 36 stable, but I had to increase the voltages and go up to 1.4v to the sticks. I haven't spent a whole lot of time fine tuning the timings, but higher MHz resulted in boot loops. Hopefully things keeps getting better with the updates.

    • @ChatGTA345
      @ChatGTA345 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tronotrond I see, what's your latency as measured by AIDA64?

    • @insertnamehere4419
      @insertnamehere4419 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've had zero issues with my 7700x and 6000mhz xmp. Is the memory you chose on your boards QVL?

    • @ChatGTA345
      @ChatGTA345 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@insertnamehere4419 I think the issue in this thread is to be able to run 128GB (4 x 32GB) configuration. It's not currently possible to run any kit available on the market above 4,800

  • @rmorenberg
    @rmorenberg ปีที่แล้ว

    good info thank you

  • @s.b.asokadissanayake4276
    @s.b.asokadissanayake4276 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent physics.
    Thank YOU.

  • @Waldherz
    @Waldherz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for your continued report on this issue.
    Lets hope that Gen13 resolves this. I prefer the look of 4 sticks over 2 ^^

    • @zaikki_tv
      @zaikki_tv ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nope still not fixed.

    • @suthtokcraew1227
      @suthtokcraew1227 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      13th gen. no. still can't enable the xmp with 4 sticks

    • @AbyssalSoda
      @AbyssalSoda ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nope

  • @Bad2dbonez
    @Bad2dbonez 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I watched all your videos on DDR5 issues as I came across an issue on my own system. I am running an Asus z690e wifi + I9 12900k + 4 sticks of 16GB T-force ram rated for 6400Mhz. I originally built my PC with 32GB but then amazon had a sale on the same ram, so I added another 2 sticks to make it 64gb all together. Upon adding the 2 new sticks, BSOD started happening. What worked for me was bumping up the voltage from 1.35 to 1.37 and changing ram power deliver system from " synced all 4 " to "per dimm" and reducing my clock speeds from 6400 to 6200 . So far I was able to get stable sessions from my pc and I hope it stays this way ....

  • @doombros9770
    @doombros9770 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brother, can you recommend some tests that can give me an idea or crash my pc if my rams are not stable? Or do I just have to wait until my pc automatically crashes/freezes to know my rams are not stable? I know i'll get bsod but sometimes pc turns on works fine and after some time it crashes and I don't want to spend 10 minutes figuring out if it's stable only to get disappointed 😞 so if there is a software to do some testing, please tell me.

  • @miguelj.cardenas4841
    @miguelj.cardenas4841 ปีที่แล้ว

    thnk you !!! I'm became crazy with my 64 kingston 4 dimm you are the first you tuber than speak about the problem DDR5 and XMP DON'T WORK 4DIMM

  • @PendelSteven
    @PendelSteven ปีที่แล้ว +13

    To be fair, on Intel Ark product specification:
    i9-12900K : Up to DDR5 4800 MT/s
    i9-13900K : Up to DDR5 5600 MT/s
    Which leads me to believe that if you have a 13th gen, you can could run 5200 MT/s or even 5600 MT/s. Chip is out thursday officially. On vas bien voir!

    • @rekenops8651
      @rekenops8651 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ur right, i just got an i9 13thgen , and my ram finally runs at 5600mhz 64gb without any problem

    • @PendelSteven
      @PendelSteven ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rekenops8651 Four sticks?

    • @Mehecanogeesir
      @Mehecanogeesir ปีที่แล้ว

      So how are people getting their systems to work with higher clocks?

    • @mattk6827
      @mattk6827 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Don't forget to read all the specs. 'Up to' 5600 mt/s on 13th gen. That's with 1 dimm per channel. I can't seem to find the damn chart unfortunately, however speeds decrease with increased ram. As in more sticks. Then you have the stress of single vs dual rank ram, dual rank puts more stress on the memory controller. Having all 4 dimms populated 2dpc, also adds more stress. And if you're talking ddr5, then a typical 32gb of ram in 2x16gb is just fine. It's 1dpc and single rank, there are no dual rank ddr5 at 16gb per stick. 32gb sticks and up are dual rank. Tech Notice here is using 4 sticks, 128gb so 32gb per stick. Worst case scenario, dual rank and 2dpc. The most stress on the memory controller.
      And of course intel's official speeds drop the more stress you add to the system. Hence the 'up to'. Then there's also the consideration that intel's officially supported speeds don't mean people 'can't' run faster ram, just that it's not guaranteed to run. You run a ddr5 1dpc setup of 2x16gb on 13th gen and you get ddr5 6000 it'll probably work. But if it doesn't, if for some strange reason someone got a low end lottery cpu and it will only function at 5600 mt/s, well that's all intel said it would run. They never promised more. There's no rma for that. I imagine if the chip was severely hosed and could only run 5200 mt/s within intel's specs, the cpu could likely be seen as 'faulty' and rma'd. Intel's already been confirming 13th gen working with ddr5 over 7000 mt/s so maybe they'll update their specs? But then they'd have to guarantee all 13th gen will handle it and that might be another story.

    • @mattk6827
      @mattk6827 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Mehecanogeesir Intel official specs aren't the 'max', just the confirmed spec. Many people enable xmp and get well over the 'max' on the intel specs but it's not guaranteed. Xmp is never guaranteed. The ram company can promise you 'ddr5 6400'. The motherboard can promise you 'max memory speeds of 7200+!'. But neither gets to dictate what you get. They can only speak for their component. That stick of ram 'can' run that fast, that motherboard 'can' run ram that fast. Ultimately it's up to the integrated memory controller in the cpu. In this case, intel. Some people could run ddr4 4000, others ddr4 3600. Some people put ddr4 3600 in their system and no boot with xmp enabled. It didn't like it. They had to drop to ddr4 3200 which was still technically more than intel promised for ddr4. But it wasn't what they were hoping for and what they were hoping for was a roll of the dice. Silicon lottery, like a good overclocker vs a poor one. The cpu's are all within manufacturing tolerance, a range of performance. Which is why you could have one cpu with a 'max' top end of 3.9ghz at 1.26v running 4.6 or 4.7ghz oc'd. And another with the same model cpu couldn't get 4.4ghz stable even pushing 1.3v core voltage. They had to settle for 4.2 or 4.3ghz. The reference to 'golden' chips meaning those in the same product line that were just the best tolerances and like a lucky lotto winner got a better version of the same thing out of the box.

  • @ahujvsraku
    @ahujvsraku ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m going to check this out in some time. Just made my first build with the z690 intel1700 ddr5. And I had already an issue with the Bios😄 It was the compatibility from 12 gen 13 gen. Gladly my friend had the 12 gen CPU and quickly fixed the issue. But I’m interested in the Ram. As a first build just decided to go with the new DDR5 and PCI 5.0 upgrade for future upgrades. And I see now still we have a lot of Bug’s to Fix. But thanks for your videos, they help really. Especially for as me from 13 years coming back in the PC world. I’m like a Stone Age guy😂

    • @photobeast
      @photobeast ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you get it working 💪? I just did two z590 builds with MSI. Now I have the Asus ROG E and Intel 13 i9...bought 4 sticks of DDR5 and just saw this....did I make a mistake?

  • @ChinchillaBONK
    @ChinchillaBONK ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Looks like it's not just an AMD problem for 4 sticks of RAM 128gb. Thanks for this

  • @imhoinmyhonestopinion9262
    @imhoinmyhonestopinion9262 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is this still an issue with the 13th Gen CPUs??
    I have a i9 13900 and I’m running 64 GB DDR5 ram but I would love to increase to 128

  • @James_m7
    @James_m7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My system won't boot with 64GB or 128GB of G.Skill TridentZ rams in XMP I or XMP II with the ASUS z590-e either, it's just a black screen...any ideas or suggestions?

  • @Matty-rn5gt
    @Matty-rn5gt ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I agree keeping the BIOS up to date is important. It can sometimes have a bad effect if a system is already stable but on new/cutting edge tech it often solves more issues than it causes. As a tip: I found a need on my ASUS boards to also do a clear CMOS and reset to default settings before reconfiguring all the settings again as this had a material impact on performance and stability. Reloading saved profiles or not loading back to defaults would sometimes see strange behaviour.

    • @DaSesh
      @DaSesh ปีที่แล้ว +2

      When you update the bios tbe saved profiles are removed and a cmos is done automatically for you.
      I learned the hard way and lost all my configs / oc undervolt but figured it back out 😂 and took screenshots of my uief settings

    • @Matty-rn5gt
      @Matty-rn5gt ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agree, it wipes the saved profiles when doing an update. I loaded my saved profile from a USB drive I had exported it to assuming it would be fine and found it wasn’t 100%. Reconfiguring the exact same settings after a Clear CMOS manually resulted in a much better stability and slightly more performance.

    • @DaSesh
      @DaSesh ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Matty-rn5gt yep this is exactly what happened with me so I just took screenshots of my settings

  • @MikeAnthonyPhoto
    @MikeAnthonyPhoto ปีที่แล้ว

    I have 15 fans in my Cougar Panzer Max. Is it ok to put them back to back (both sides of the grill) in the front and top? I have 4 in the front, 5 on top, 1 on the bottom, 1 rear, 1 in power supply, 2 in the GPU and 1 CPU fan.

  • @aviv32
    @aviv32 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i got a question, if i got 2x16 sticks of corsair vengeance ddr5 5600mhz cl36
    and another 2 same but 32x2,
    can i use 4 of them together?
    or in order to the pc dual chanel to work properly it has also to have same capacity ?
    and if can i use them together, can i use xmp for 4 of them together?

  • @maddoggt6145
    @maddoggt6145 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Depends on the bios. Some versions of bios wont allow it properly due to new updates for newer cpus for the MB. I found with mine, i had to manually set the ddr voktage up .2 volts when using XMP. Older bios, xmp will work without voltage change. Something to do with bios uogrades and cpu compatibilities.

  • @nenickvu8807
    @nenickvu8807 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    Thanks for answering why there's no 4 sticks available for DDR5 ram. Creators are going to drag their feet even more in adopting next gen with such a problematic hardware bottleneck.

    • @MistyKathrine
      @MistyKathrine ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yeah DDR5 is still bleeding edge, it's part of the reason why I got a DDR4 board for my build, it's much easier to get high capacity of RAM. I don't think DDR5 will really be worth adopting for about another year.

    • @shreyasdharashivkar8027
      @shreyasdharashivkar8027 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MistyKathrine Yup 64 GB ram

    • @JoeWayne84
      @JoeWayne84 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MistyKathrine maybe two years

    • @MistyKathrine
      @MistyKathrine ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JoeWayne84 Wouldn't surprise me.

    • @johnpaulbacon8320
      @johnpaulbacon8320 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MistyKathrine There's an easy fix; It's go AMD.

  • @kkkshen3953
    @kkkshen3953 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are you able to find any ddr5 motherboard could dump out the RMT results over COM port? Thanks

  • @upsidedownjim
    @upsidedownjim ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I chatted with Asus tech support and the rep said they are working on a BIOS update to address the XMP issue. I asked if I purchase 128 GB of RAM (x4 32GBs) from the QVL that a BIOS update (to come) would resolve the issue and he said it is in the works. He recommended 5600 or 5800 speeds.

  • @Elastico2
    @Elastico2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I would love to see you give this a second try with a 13900k instead of the 12900ks (keep the same MB). It would tell us if the problem is in the chipset or the CPU.
    I think people invested in Z690 will not want to buy a Z790 so you would be answering if a new CPU could allow faster RAM speeds.

    • @suthtokcraew1227
      @suthtokcraew1227 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      13th gen + z790 still can't enable the xmp with 4 sticks

    • @waifuism6720
      @waifuism6720 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I'm running a 13900k and a ROG Maximus z690 Formula. I tried running two kits of CORSAIR Vengeance 64GB (2 x 32GB) @ 5200. I can enable XMP but the system was entirely unstable with BSOD after 15-30 minutes of running, as well as the system taking minutes to POST occasionally. I haven't tried manually setting the profile to try and get both kits running together. I can't be bothered putting in that much effort for it. Just gonna hope some people smarter than me resolve it in an easy manner.

    • @sadiquldey9095
      @sadiquldey9095 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@waifuism6720 have you tried upping the voltages? VDD & VDDQ

    • @raman5329
      @raman5329 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@suthtokcraew1227 I get at least xmp2 with 5000 with 4x 5200 Corsairs running stable. 5066 runs with crashes, 5200 doesn't boot....

    • @skyman1883
      @skyman1883 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is this down to intel 12th and 13th gen only having duel channel support?

  • @RiceNoodlestw
    @RiceNoodlestw ปีที่แล้ว +2

    its still early adopter of ddr5, but the headaches and the pricing is why i went ddr4. i belive mr tech notice also mentioned for creation amount is greater than speed. i might be wrong.

  • @kwameryan
    @kwameryan ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I actually bought 4 sticks of that exact Kingston Fury DDR5 RAM up to 128 GB but haven’t built it into a system yet. Are you saying that without XMP (at base speed) it will be stable but it just can’t be overclocked? If so, that’s not the biggest deal for me since my workflow just requires the capacity to hold lots of music samples. I wasn’t planning to overclock. Are the sticks stable without XMP?

    • @suthtokcraew1227
      @suthtokcraew1227 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      yess sure, it just can't run the xmp. with the stock speed its just fine

  • @frankerebus
    @frankerebus ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi there, In an nzxt z790 n7 I couldn't get 4x16 gskill dimms working at 6000 Mhz (what is her top speedvalue), I could only make the system boot by putting them in xmp at 5600 Mhz and nothing else, any suggestions?

  • @you8sand
    @you8sand ปีที่แล้ว +1

    AMD 7950x here with 128GB (4x32) G.Skill Flare X5 on ASRock x670e, I can occasionally boot with AMD EXPO for my ram but have experienced memory corruption (confirmed with memtest) so I disabled it. The extra speed would be nice but the capacity is essential for me.

  • @moronish1004
    @moronish1004 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Currently running a z690 with 128 gigs at 6k mhz. I have a LOT of instability.
    Iv had days where I tune it and it runs great all day all 4 sticks but usually on restart or idle it crashes and goes into boot loops.
    Upping voltage helped, I’m going to try a few different things but this process is lengthy

  • @chik0240
    @chik0240 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    not using 4 sticks but when using 2 sticks of kingston Fury 5600, the XMP did go into windows, done benchmarks right, only once a while crash in MSFS, and don't pass FFT512+ prime 95 over 2 hours at XMP, perfectly fine with 4800MT, ended up the solution, was disabling the dynamic memory boost, now rock solid in prime 95 with XMP

  • @yooanto9465
    @yooanto9465 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Is there any fix to use 4 kits now on z790?

  • @frankderks1150
    @frankderks1150 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Advertised speeds are for the memory it doesn't guarantee that the mem mb and proc combo can reach that speed. Hint: look at the intel specs for its processor mem speed.

  • @LakerTriangle
    @LakerTriangle ปีที่แล้ว

    7700x w/ 4 x 16GB Corsair Vengeance 5600 running perfectly fine. Mobo is the Gigabyte x670 Aorus Elite AX on latest bios (December '22)

  • @shaunvickers9255
    @shaunvickers9255 ปีที่แล้ว

    Adding that I also ran into the same problem with my Asus ROG Strix 660 ITX board (2 slots total) with 2 sticks of 16GB. My Kingston fury was advertised at 6000 but it wouldn't boot with both sticks. I had to run it at 4800 to get it to boot with 2 sticks.

  • @andrespadeto
    @andrespadeto ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello. Do you think the DDR5 would make a big difference in comparison with DDR4 using i7 13th g. and Z790 motherboard for music and video production? Worth it?

    • @briangrant9942
      @briangrant9942 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      why not just use a z690 should do the job just fine with 13th gen

  • @m4nc1n1
    @m4nc1n1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    13:32 It would have booted anyway. I'm not sure if you tried because of editing and not live, but I just put 6000 in my 12700K rig, and it did that same thing down to the letter. But when it said it was reset and you pulled that channel of RAM, I did not. Instead, I went into BIOS and turned on XMP (6000), rebooted like normal, and it worked like a charm. Has been running solid ever since. Not sure what that corruption message was, but all it did was reset the BIOS back to the factory, and then I just turned on XMP, and that was it.

  • @niccolon8095
    @niccolon8095 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i got 4 DIMMs at EXPO to work, i run 4 Gskill Flare x5 5600 on a Asrock X670e Pro Rs , & i actually am using their first initial bios with the motherboard (1.03) & my OC is stable, when i update my bios to their recent versions (1.07) i cant get it to post, took me a day of testing to figure this out

  • @DarkIdrees
    @DarkIdrees ปีที่แล้ว

    Whats the pc case behind you?...i like the matte black finish

  • @jamesbagley7972
    @jamesbagley7972 ปีที่แล้ว

    So nice to find your channel ! I went all out waiting for Micro Center to open in line at 4am etc and this PC is a titan with a chain around its neck crashing with gaming and XMP or 4x 16 ddr5 76000 Gskill wont post but 2x 16 of the 4 . with 2x16 it crashed got it to play games with xmp turned off but blaaa. Micro Center doesnt have a clue they just put the parts in say I have to get it to work my self . Please help or direct me to help ???

  • @erufenrito66
    @erufenrito66 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm on a Gigabyte z790 Gaming, and currently run 2x16Gb DDR5. I want to run 64GB, and the cheapest option is to get another 2x16. What performance in terms of megatransfers can I expect to get? I have tried reading the documentation and using the gigabyte memory compatibility chart, but neither of them touch on 4x sticks.

  • @AAAAAAndreyAndreev
    @AAAAAAndreyAndreev ปีที่แล้ว +2

    why did you get this instead of the 7950x ?!?!?

  • @JackOAT_
    @JackOAT_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey! so ive got a 12900k, 64GB DDR5 6400Mhz, Z690 Aorus Master MB, 3080 ti aorus master and this crashes on their own xmp profile i cant even boot and i get a memory code on the motherboard all my games stutter when im streaming in 1080p and playing in 4k max on apex and this is kind of ridiculous because i bought almost the best everything and nothing is working right in either windows 10 or 11

  • @hendog323
    @hendog323 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just stumbling onto this video. On a 7950x with 64gb of g skill 6000 expo ram. I can set to auto run xmp settings but I noticed I was constantly crashing in games like MW2 and Cyberpunk. Once I set it back to normal settings I haven't had a crash. I'm on a Gigabyte mobo so hopefully with more bios revisions it might fix it?

  • @NomadSWE
    @NomadSWE ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have the same issues as you describe with my 4x16gb Corsair Dominator 5600mhz. They run at 4900mhz to be able to work without crashing.

  • @pdamasco
    @pdamasco ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So many people reported this type of issue on AM5 and 12/13th gen intel. I plan on buying 2x32GB kit for my next build with Zen 5 or 14th gen intel for now until the situation improves with both ram channels populated.
    Also if you're a scientist, engineer, or creator you really just need rock-solid stability. Even as an enthusiast I am leaning toward running my next rig at stock settings because AMD is pushing their chips to the limit out of the box. Less than 5% of performance uplift on them isn't worth the instability. With Intel, at least for now you still get gains overclocking but at the cost of a ton of power and cooling increases.

  • @shawnkaiju8667
    @shawnkaiju8667 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im currently running 4x16gb DDR5 5200mhz sticks of corsair dominator on the asus strix z690e on xmp3 without any issue (bios v2204 - december 2022) After install it booted straight to windows. No boot loops or crashes.

  • @thomasyantorno1734
    @thomasyantorno1734 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is it better just to get 2 32 sticks 2-32 GB sticks if you want to go that high. Mine will not boot even after updating the bias

  • @SubrosaRose
    @SubrosaRose ปีที่แล้ว

    witch one is better intel core i9 - 12900ks or intel core i9 13900k ?

  • @isM11959
    @isM11959 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have T-Force Delta RGB DDR5 Ram 32GB Kit 6000MHz whenever I Enable XMP it always take take 2 minutes to boot up always not first time yellow LED light in motherboard as well please help

  • @sennopatiallen
    @sennopatiallen 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What I love in the Windows ecosystem is a plenty option of customization and upgrades which is similar to car or motorcycle modification.

  • @viktordimitrov9353
    @viktordimitrov9353 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This video came at a good time for me, we're just looking at the 64GB RAM deals these days and I was wondering why there isn't a set of 4 sticks. I even still wonder if it makes much of a difference in performance if you get RAM faster than 5600MHz with Intel CPU, specifically the 13th gen.Thanks for the info 🙂🍺🍺🍺

  • @ivanrelota3169
    @ivanrelota3169 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just bought an Aorus X670 Elite AX mother and an AMD Ryzen 9 7900 processor and I want to buy a Kingston Fury Beast 4 stickd memory of 16Gb each. Will I have the same problem? I'm worried...

  • @abramuccio
    @abramuccio ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As far i remember from the 12th gen cpu reviews, tt's not a matter of ram or either motherboards. It's the cpu that doesn't support 4 stick of memory in xmp mode

  • @TheGuruStud
    @TheGuruStud ปีที่แล้ว

    B/c you can't read the documentation for 4 high capacity sticks?

  • @701Builder
    @701Builder ปีที่แล้ว

    12900k 4 sticks 64 gskill 6000 only works stable at 4000. Thanks for the terrific info.

  • @motocross5251
    @motocross5251 ปีที่แล้ว

    just built a system 13th gen asus proart z790 and unable to get four sticks at 6000 to work. Thanks for the info.

  • @Ztall0880
    @Ztall0880 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i did the mistake and ordered 4x16 with my 7950x, but it does work, only point is that goes to 5200 and not 6000.

  • @Stoveeski
    @Stoveeski ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks mate, i couldnt figure why my games always crash, even after 3 weeks of repair

  • @savaristovic1196
    @savaristovic1196 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello! I have ASUS z690, intel 12700 and 4 x16 gb Kingston Fury ddr 6000. When all four modules are with XMP enabled (6000), after booting, Windows freezes after a few minutes. All four work without problems when XMP is disabled (4700). With two modules it works without problems with XMP enabled (6000). What should I do? Should I use two modules on the 6000, four on the 4700 or sell them and buy two 2 x 32. What is the best option for video editing? Thanks everyone!

  • @AnnasAR16
    @AnnasAR16 ปีที่แล้ว

    How did you record while your pc is booting?

  • @weberik-lokomotiefheren1
    @weberik-lokomotiefheren1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks great i bought 2 sticks 6000 2*32 and working with 13th i9 13900 and z790 asus

  • @luisarturogonzalezdearagon311
    @luisarturogonzalezdearagon311 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would it work in an am5 platform with 4 sticks and 64gb?

  • @AyllonGameplays
    @AyllonGameplays ปีที่แล้ว +2

    excellent video now do the same but with AMD EXPO 🙌

  • @YamieX
    @YamieX ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow… I was just wondering about DDR5 coz I am running 64GB of DDR4 on my 12700K and was thinking about upgrading either to another 64GB of DDR4 or saving to try out DDR5 over the next few months if DDR5 is getting better.. coz the exact DDR4 ram I have now is US$265 while the DDR5 I am eying is getting cheaper US$300… of course I will have to get a DDR5 motherboard but I’m not sure if I should just go ahead with the DDR4 or wait and save up for DDR5.
    Nevertheless I just updated the bios on my Gigabytes Z690 Aero G…

  • @JTimbo007
    @JTimbo007 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can someone please help me? I have a ASUS ROG STRIX Z790-E GAMING WIFI motherboard with an G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB XMP 32GB DDR5-6800 CL34 kit but cant get the full 6.800 MHz.. Do I need to update my BIOS to fix this problem? My RAM reaches max 6666 MHz right now before crashing windows..

  • @simonlopresti
    @simonlopresti 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    when i put 2 ram sticks of the fury beast i have 4000mhz, but once i put 4 ram sticks my ram is 2000mhz how is that possible?

  • @wickfut8917
    @wickfut8917 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    13900 and ASRock z790 Live Mixer works with 128GB Corsair 5200 memory, even though their website says it won't work with 4 sticks

  • @ErnieSesameStreet
    @ErnieSesameStreet ปีที่แล้ว

    I'll like to have 64Gb. Do you recommend 4 x 16Gb DDR4

  • @vitalie96
    @vitalie96 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is this issue relevant for the new AMD motherboards?

  • @mark-ze4en
    @mark-ze4en ปีที่แล้ว

    I want to build an AUDIO production PC,,, i7-12700k with integrated graphics. Does the Pro art creator z690 with Core i7-12700k work smoothly with 2 sticks of 32 gb DDR5 ram?? I want the Thunderbolt and 10 gb ethernet in the Z690 pro Art but if it only runs on DDR5 ram?? wth do we do. What is the next comparable z690 with DDR4?

  • @TrihanoRecords
    @TrihanoRecords 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a Prime Z790 A wifi board running with i9 13900k. 4 sticks of fury (128GB). I still get BSOD whenever i enable xmp profiles. i have the latest bios version.

  • @lall9739
    @lall9739 ปีที่แล้ว

    hello, i got 4 stick of 16Gb of fury renegade 6000cl32 and it working pretty fine. i think with 32Gb sticks it will not work

  • @NGEvangeliman
    @NGEvangeliman ปีที่แล้ว

    Still having issues in 13th gen on z790 boards, even with a stick on list and only 2 stcks

  • @AiLife115
    @AiLife115 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    it been a year since your clip released, z790 + 4 stick + xmp still wont boot, sadlly, I really need 128gb + xmp.

  • @unheard5982
    @unheard5982 ปีที่แล้ว

    i saw similar issue earlier on other video called "Be Careful Before Buying Intel 12th Generation Memory(i might be wrong)" on a JayzTwoCents channel, he also tried to boot with 4 sticks at full speed and motherboard failed that. Also i read some "theory" in discussions about that, and it seems caused by low count of PCB layers/trackways. Actual/current boards only have about 8+ layers(i might be wrong), so there a required more "thicker" boards with more layers/trackways, and i hope that will become with 700-chipsets. That's why i decided to skip DDR5 on the 600-chipsets until 700 come out, and save some money by pairing 12700k with DDR4 board and RAM that i already have.

  • @ArielBrener
    @ArielBrener ปีที่แล้ว

    I wonder if the 13900k will finally fix the 128gb xmp problem. (as I think of purchasing it with 128GB)