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  • @doctora.snakeman1427
    @doctora.snakeman1427 3 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    The moment she said "Oh! Be your own boss! Yeah" to put it on the bingo card I got an ad that started with "Be your own boss" I-

    • @EmmaThorneVideos
      @EmmaThorneVideos  3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Be careful there might be an MLM ghost in your house

    • @doctora.snakeman1427
      @doctora.snakeman1427 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@EmmaThorneVideos Oh dear I had better call an exorcist

    • @Tiger89Lilly
      @Tiger89Lilly ปีที่แล้ว

      Omg me too 😂

    • @deku976
      @deku976 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@doctora.snakeman1427who you gonna call?

  • @katyr2382
    @katyr2382 3 ปีที่แล้ว +174

    'Get paid 5 times a month' is one I've heard quite a bit. Yes but they don't say it's £0.50 each time

    • @deltasaves
      @deltasaves 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      But they get paid more often than me 😂 *Checks paystub seeing 4 figures going into my account every other week 💅🏿 *

    • @andreavinson5169
      @andreavinson5169 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      lol

    • @hollyhayes9640
      @hollyhayes9640 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I get paid more on disability (about $900 per month in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada), and disability is only 1/3rd of minimum wage.

  • @callie17472
    @callie17472 3 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    I wish more corporations would focus as much energy on anti-racism as they do on office supply theft.

  • @alicine-sims8988
    @alicine-sims8988 3 ปีที่แล้ว +124

    "If you support the network marketing people, you're supporting families."
    Sooo, nobody else who has any other kind of job has a family? Everyone in the store are just store robots?

    • @lord.have.myrcene
      @lord.have.myrcene 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @fisharepeopletoo9653
      @fisharepeopletoo9653 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Not yet, give it ten more years

    • @ferociousfeind8538
      @ferociousfeind8538 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well, they have steady paychecks, you buying from them means their job is more secure, but the money doesn't directly go to them like it (uhh, still doesn't) directly goes to the MLM victims, who will otherwise make a heavy net loss. With your help, you can mildly soften the debt this one random MLM victim has!

    • @JaceDeanLove
      @JaceDeanLove ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, they power down in the break room overnight. Can confirm. Am a work robot

  • @KM-xx1qb
    @KM-xx1qb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +118

    Shes basically admitting she knows women with low self worth are easy prey. And then suggests taking advantage of them under the guise of community. As a stay at home mom, I’ve been messaged idk how many times by “girl bosses” and it’s infuriating.

    • @snooganslestat2030
      @snooganslestat2030 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      This is why i cant say ohhh poor little victim to everyone inc her. She knows what she is doing.

    • @AMcAFaves
      @AMcAFaves ปีที่แล้ว +3

      A bit like some churches do to vulnerable people.

    • @popechucky
      @popechucky ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@AMcAFaves ‘Christian Conversions’… exactly.. “get saved, so you can save others, and they can save others, and hopefully some of them will stay at your ‘home church’, and donate, and buy junk out of our ‘trinket store/ cart’… no, i mean ‘book store, cart’… so they can … (infinitas ‘wash, rinse, repeat)

    • @SonsOfLorgar
      @SonsOfLorgar ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@popechuckythe oldest crime syndicate recipie in human history...

  • @Asnorea
    @Asnorea 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I’ll always remember telling my friend she was in a pyramid scheme when she joined and mlm. She couldn’t even deny it, just said ‘yea but a pyramid scheme is a business model just like any other.’
    No honey buns, no.

    • @katrinam6795
      @katrinam6795 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A male friend is the same. He just sells insurance and ernst well - but estimating the time he puts in, woah

  • @carriechavanne
    @carriechavanne 3 ปีที่แล้ว +178

    Former MLM hun here, now an ardent member of the anti-mlm community. Thank you for your videos, you give fair critique while giving valuable information.

  • @taylortheeuwes
    @taylortheeuwes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +382

    “Dont be racist. Don’t steal pens” = new life motto. Always love your content. ❤️

    • @jameswilson5248
      @jameswilson5248 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Words to frigging live by😂

    • @thineubaut
      @thineubaut 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Are these pens not for everyone?

    • @isaac_owens9110
      @isaac_owens9110 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I legit almost commented that 🤣

    • @ClaudiiaBaby13
      @ClaudiiaBaby13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I know right 😂

    • @KrazyKain
      @KrazyKain 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'm not going to stop stealing pens

  • @BlessMyHart96
    @BlessMyHart96 3 ปีที่แล้ว +120

    I’m a part of a “trauma” book club reading Adult Children of Emotionally Immature Parents by Lindsay Gibson. Every two weeks we drink wine, eat spinach artichoke dip, and talk about how we related to the chapter we read.

    • @kirbotime
      @kirbotime 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      That sounds like a really good and useful idea :o

    • @BlessMyHart96
      @BlessMyHart96 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@kirbotime it’s especially great because the drunker you get, the more vulnerable you get. 😂

    • @quryil
      @quryil 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've heard about this book a few times recently definitely going to check it out soon.

    • @ClaudiiaBaby13
      @ClaudiiaBaby13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That might be my next audiobook. Thnx

    • @laurenwalker1048
      @laurenwalker1048 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That sounds like a wonderful way to make connections while working on your mental health. Self love is a necessity.

  • @jameswilson5248
    @jameswilson5248 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    I love the little feather-like lock at the back of your head. It's freeeee

    • @ModernEphemera
      @ModernEphemera 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It’s a little duck tail lol

    • @Motown994
      @Motown994 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      so weirdly charming lol

  • @09yulstube
    @09yulstube 3 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    This reminds me of the argument regarding police and "a few bad apples". Nah, my man, it's a rotten institution.

    • @Tina06019
      @Tina06019 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      There are a lot of good police officers, but they are in an institution which has fundamental problems, and generally doesn’t encourage the best behavior.

  • @hauntedshadowslegacy2826
    @hauntedshadowslegacy2826 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I'm not reading a book, but I am sewing a rather large skirt. It's a circle skirt, so I have several feet of hemming to do. Yes, my fingers are super sore.

    • @CatBarefield
      @CatBarefield 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I re-hemmed a circle skirt once. I’m not a seamstress, i didnt know what i was doing. It took me 12 hours

    • @LustStarrr
      @LustStarrr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I came across a seamstress TH-camr recently called Marcie Harriell who has an amazing circle skirt tutorial, among other things, & even as a very beginner level seamstress myself, I found her channel super inspiring!

  • @cfadeathfries
    @cfadeathfries 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I can't stop laughing at the "It's not targeted at them, it's just *in depth description of how it is totally targeted*"
    I'm reading A Darker Shade of Magic again for a bookculb with some friends

  • @capercaillieskye
    @capercaillieskye 3 ปีที่แล้ว +181

    What seems like the biggest red flag to me is that MLM videos like this one exist at all. I worked a part-time job at a store and they never once sat down all the new eployees to explain to them why this job really isn't a scam and how to "combat the haters." They didn't have to. It was obvious it wasn't a scam every time I got my regular paycheck, and there weren't enough "haters" to even be worth mentioning, if any existed at all. The very fact that MLM huns spend soooo much time explaining why MLM's are "not a scam" and "not a pyramid scheme" etc. is a very good indication that MLMs actually are scams and pyramid schemes. Legitimate businesses don't have to defend their legitimacy. No one's questioning their legitimacy in the first place.

    • @lacey892
      @lacey892 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Right if you have to preemptively warn me with a disclaimer about how the company or the product *definitely isn't a scam*.... I'm going to be skeptical lol

    • @capercaillieskye
      @capercaillieskye 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Hyperion 666 LOL exactly XD

    • @johnnyrepine937
      @johnnyrepine937 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @Hyperion 666 That makes me regret my meeting with an Amway rep at a Panera Bread. I missed the opportunity to fill out a Panera Bread job application in front of him while he gave his spiel. 🤣

  • @ifartmagic
    @ifartmagic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    "You're supporting someone who makes an actual living wage in a store"
    I agree, but "living wage" is kinda generous for what I make working a store 😂
    (Currently finishing up The Sun and Moon Beneath the Stars 🌟)

    • @SonsOfLorgar
      @SonsOfLorgar ปีที่แล้ว

      Imo, a company that can't pay a living wage to every employee should be stripped of their buisness licence and the owner charged with wage theft.

  • @SimplySundae
    @SimplySundae 3 ปีที่แล้ว +105

    I'm a stay at home mom with 3 kids doing remote learning and running my own business that isn't an MLM. I have tons of personal worth and feel empowered by myself. Also my family is supportive and proud of anything I do.
    I'm reading the Elantra Chronicles book 10

    • @brycehall8605
      @brycehall8605 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You’re a badass!

    • @Tiger89Lilly
      @Tiger89Lilly ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'm in my 30s, I'm a single mum and I have gone back to school to retrain and my personal worth has never been higher

  • @AquaPeet
    @AquaPeet 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    You could create an alter ego like character that loves MLM and call her Emma Lemm hahaha

  • @samanthawhitehead148
    @samanthawhitehead148 3 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    “All the things you hear don’t have to be the way you hear it.” Soooo...when I’m told I have to pay for my groceries I can translate that to that they are for free? Well this is news to me 🤔

    • @afrohamurai
      @afrohamurai 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I guess that means when I make music, if it sounds objectively bad, it’s good and I can upload it - nice!

    • @caitlinsmith7189
      @caitlinsmith7189 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yes! When they tell you the total, it doesn't have to actually be the way you hear it #classyboss

    • @annamariefella8315
      @annamariefella8315 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      🤣😂😆🤣😂😆

    • @joecummings1260
      @joecummings1260 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      So when I hear a MLM telling me that the MLM isn't a scam, I can hear MLM is a scam

  • @picklejuice2
    @picklejuice2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    I wish we were best friends so hard. The way you speak so kindly while also being logical and witty. It’s a magical combo that’s so hard to find🥺🤗 ah I love it

  • @peanutforever2191
    @peanutforever2191 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    It boggles my mind how they always talk about fear as if it were something illegitimate altogether. Fear is what keeps us from trying to hug a knife wielding madman high on meth or crossing the road as an eight wheeler is approaching at a high rate of speed. Fear is a very, very useful emotion for our survival. Sure, it's a problem when it causes excessive anxiety, for example, and it could be hard to distinguish between real and imagined fear sometimes. That is not for a complete stranger trying to get other strangers involved in their pyramid scheme for financial gains, to decide, though.
    ETA: it is also surreal how they keep claiming that the MLM structure "cuts out the middle man". What are you, then, dear? Also, not only does the company pay ONE middle man, it has to pay several others in their upline. How do they not see it?

    • @ferociousfeind8538
      @ferociousfeind8538 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What are they? The "hard worker" of course! There's no middleman, it's just a pyramid of "hard workers" and one owner who makes all the money.

    • @phillyphakename1255
      @phillyphakename1255 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      There is also middle men in MLMs. You aren't making the product and running a distribution center and transoceanic shipping company, you rely on middlemen to get the goods to your customer, you just get a commission from the sale.

    • @peanutforever2191
      @peanutforever2191 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@phillyphakename1255 Which is what I said. LOL

    • @phillyphakename1255
      @phillyphakename1255 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@peanutforever2191 I think I was trying to comment to ferocious feind, and I felt like I had something really insightful to say, but TBH I was really tired when I wrote it, so it seems like my. Comment wasn't really ANY of what I intended.
      *Sigh*

    • @peanutforever2191
      @peanutforever2191 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@phillyphakename1255 :) Oh, OK, I was just rereading my comment to see if it had made any sense. LOL

  • @Chelle8847
    @Chelle8847 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Join a bookclub, but NOT Usborne books! That's a new MLM. Can you believe it?! I got invited to a facebook group by someone looking to sell the Usborne books n stuff. Til she remembered my stance on MLM's and deleted me from the group thank god lol

  • @lubeeluonline
    @lubeeluonline 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I’m reading A Promised Land. A book by a president who has never created or endorsed an MLM 😂 I’m British but find the US political system fascinating.

  • @LisaMW
    @LisaMW 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    I am reading "The Body is Not an Apology" since you asked. And yeah, her heart is in the right place but it's seasoned with junky propaganda that colors all of it.

    • @BaronBytes
      @BaronBytes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The MLM companies is weaponising her heart as a propaganda machine

    • @SonsOfLorgar
      @SonsOfLorgar ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@BaronBytes*pyramid scheme companies...😉

  • @chargriff123
    @chargriff123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I'm really happy and fulfilled in my stay at home mom gig thanks. I don't need to sell crappy products to feel worthwhile. It's so condescending for her to talk like that, and it's sad that so many people try mlms to help their families for whatever they are going through, I know it's a privilege to have few worries not bringing in a second income.
    And I'm reading Arm of the Sphinx by Josiah Bancroft. So good!

  • @AmandaJo_
    @AmandaJo_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    You touched on this a few times but I want to go into more detail about the issue with this hun’s “you don’t take money from that PERSON” argument. Because with ANY company with an MLM or network marketing structure: yes, you absolutely do make money off that person.
    I work for an engineering firm, salaried. I get paid exactly the same every two weeks (unless I choose to take an unpaid day off). While we do have some consistent or contracted work, firms often have to bid on some projects to try to “win” the opportunity to work on it and get paid. But even if we win fewer bids one month, I still get paid exactly the same. Someone else’s work doesn’t affect my pay, so I don’t have to try to recruit others into the company to get more money. I do my job (admin) for a set number of hours each week, I get paid the amount I was promised for those hours. The work I do has its own value, and I get paid accordingly. My pay doesn’t fluctuate based on what others in my department do or don’t do. If my department has a rough week and can’t get as much done, I don’t get paid less and my boss doesn’t get paid less. We might have to work extra hard the next month to catch up, but we at least don’t have to worry about our pay fluctuating.
    (A quick side note to help make my point: With an MLM, it’s really hard to argue that recruiting isn’t necessary to make money, because whether you call it MLM or Network Marketing, the need to incorporate new people is inherent in the name. Multi-level can’t exist without people coming in under other people. A network can’t exist without multiple branches creating multiple new branches. And while you *could* argue that those branches are just new customers, the chances of that actually being the case are low when you heavily incentivize recruiting as a way to earn more money. Plus each person only knows so many people, and your friend’s aunt’s sister-in-law isn’t as likely to buy from you as she is to buy from your friend’s aunt, so of course you’d try to make her your downline so you can make money off her “network”.)
    In an MLM, your paycheck might be coming from corporate, but you still only get paid based on what you and your downline purchased/sold. So that money goes to the company first, they take their cut (for corporate employees, expenses, etc.), then redistribute it to everyone based on what they bought/sold, and/or what their downlines bought/sold. So if you have a downline AT ALL, you’re still getting paid by the work your downline does either way. Just because it’s not going directly from their pocket to you doesn’t mean it’s not coming from them at all. And if your downline DOESN’T do any work or make any sales, you don’t get paid. They make money, you make money. They don’t make money, you don’t make money. So of course you’re going to push your downline to recruit, because the more people that exist in your downline, the more chances you have to get paid. If you and your downline all have a crappy week, your paycheck is going to be a reflection of that. You’re going to make less money because of your downline’s struggles. And if you have a huge downline and don’t do any work but they work super hard and buy/sell a lot, you get to benefit from their hard work! Either way it’s completely exploitative and unfair.
    I hope at least some of that made sense and that my point is understood 😂 I could also go on about why traditional commission based sales jobs are more ethical but we’d be here all day lol.

    • @joaopaulodiasfranca472
      @joaopaulodiasfranca472 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I came searching for this comment because I tought the same. An in addition to your points I would like to add that whatever you make from your recruits in a MLM could be going to that person. It's built in the MLM commision system. You and the people your recruit could be each getting more if that percentage was going to the person who made the sale, and not going uphill in the pyramid.

    • @phillyphakename1255
      @phillyphakename1255 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Where I work at a traditional company, they have a 500 dollar hiring bonus to you for any position you recruit.
      Recruiting people is hard and expensive. If you can give a good lead and that person sticks around and does a good job, why not reward the person for the connection.
      But it is a one time payment. You aren't going to turn into a full time recruiter doing this, either, you would need to recruit 100ish people per year to replace just doing your job.

    • @SonsOfLorgar
      @SonsOfLorgar ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Aka, a pyramid scheme...

  • @meghanworkman6449
    @meghanworkman6449 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    It's not so much that as a SAHM I didn't feel I had any personal value in and of myself (well, at least once I married my second husband - my first husband made me feel like dirt but that's another story)...it's more that I didn't feel I had any personal IDENTITY to myself. Everything I did - literally everything - was to serve the needs of other people who depended on me. I had nothing of my own. And when you feel like that, it's SO easy to get sucked in by the slick marketing and the "sisterhood" bullshit that MLMs spout.

    • @hannahreed2451
      @hannahreed2451 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I can relate to this comment so much. I went from working 80+ hours a week and 3 jobs to a married stay at home mom. I was so excited because I actually was going to get to spend time with my kids. I still love it so much, but the ugly truth is you absolutely do lose your identity in a way. Especially if you’re like me and moved 5 states away from your closest family member or friend. I struggled for a while because I had no friends or family to see, I didn’t know the area, and with remote learning I couldn’t catch a break for myself, even if it was as simple as a shower. The first break I got in three years was when my husband planned a week long trip just for him and I. But we had to fly my mother across the country to watch our older kids and had to drive our youngest across state lines for a separate babysitter because keeping them together would be “too much” is how they worded it. It cost us almost 3k just for me to get a break. I love my kids with everything in me and I wouldn’t change my life for a second, but I would be lying if I said it wasn’t overwhelming or depressing knowing that the only time I get “me time” is when I go to bed. Breaks are super important during parenting and it’s not selfish to take some time for yourself.
      Thankfully my husband’s work schedule has finally become more stable and predictable, so I was able to start a new job yesterday. It’s part time and I’ll only be working a few hours a week BUT I’ll be getting paid to get some “me time”, meet new people, and play with animals (it’s a local pet store which is my dream job lol).
      It sucks to know that not every mom is as lucky as I am and can’t just go out and find a job. And it’s really upsetting knowing that MLM’s take advantage of women in this position knowing they’re vulnerable. I’ve watched it happen to so many of my old friends and it’s really cringy watching their entire online persona change into a hun bot page. I have this one friend who has tried to recruit me for years and she told me she’s “so secure financially” and “has made so many friends” etc etc etc, but she just posted her “first real paycheck” about a month ago. She’s been doing it for THREE YEARS lol. The check was almost $200, and she still had to pay for all her supplies to “sell”. So in three years she basically made a profit of $50 😳 it’s so sad watching people who I care about get sucked into the “dream” that MLMs sell. Your paycheck shouldn’t depend on others work ethic, you shouldn’t have to stress about getting a pay check FROM YOUR JOB, and your job shouldn’t be allowed to take said check every week leaving you with a fraction of what “you earned”. Personally I believe MLMs are criminal in multiple ways and they shouldn’t be legal in the US. They’ve truly ruined lives all because of money. And what makes it even worse is a lot of these MLMs claim their products have amazing health benefits but they are crazy dangerous. People have actually DIED from these products and they just say it’s the “haters” trying to slander them 😳 I honestly can’t wait for the law to catch up to these scams.

  • @melissahamby6619
    @melissahamby6619 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I’m reading “Stiff: The Curious Lives of Human Cadavers”! It’s very interesting and provides a lot of historical background as well as current cadaveric research.

    • @finnilyenough
      @finnilyenough 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I've read that! I loved it and thought it was witty

  • @liryns
    @liryns 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Technically she is taking money from her downlines' pockets because the downlines are the ones buying up the product. They have to keep up their PV somehow, and if they don't need PV then they say they need to keep a stock.

  • @sarahmalott2222
    @sarahmalott2222 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Hi! Stay at home mom here and I have to say I do value myself. My family also appreciates the work I do and tell all me the time. On top of that, taking care of things around the house, packing lunches, etc makes me feel good. It makes me feel good to set them up to have a good day and be able to focus on what they need to. I love cleaning and organizing (not much of a cook tho) Plus doing my job in pajama and no bra is wonderful.

    • @laranadesign4764
      @laranadesign4764 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's a collection of real jobs (daycare, housekeeping, chauffeur/taxi for minors, after school tutor, etc.) that would cost money to have someone else do.

  • @juliannaistyping
    @juliannaistyping 3 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    The whole "blame the individual" argument is the same defense for systemic issues. Like no girl, it's not one person in an MLM that did a bad thing once. The entire business model is flawed.
    edit: Being in a relationship w/your significant other should NOT feel like powering through a job you hate. Damn, now I feel bad for her asjdfjhd.

    • @emmerald
      @emmerald 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      just like "not all men" or "a few bad apples" 🙃

    • @lacey892
      @lacey892 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      100% the same with racism. As long as the individual can say, 'well I treat everyone eaually', they're off the hook and they don't have to address any systemic issues. These huns don't see the ripples of their actions and think that since they've never just straight ripped anyone off that it's not an inherently predatory business model.

    • @jamesiliffe5124
      @jamesiliffe5124 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Right? I felt so awkward for her partner possibly watching this and going, “Wait, what? I thought we were good together! Babe?🥺”

  • @FalkaRiannon
    @FalkaRiannon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "Moms need something to do at home to feel like part of the family" makes me really angry. Both my parents were working all their lifes. Acting like my mom did something wrong by not being part of a pyramid scheme is so fucked up. Also acting like my mom had the choice to just sit at home all day is such a middle class BS attitude. There are families who can not survive on a single income because companies don't pay enough for certain jobs.

  • @athousandlives7231
    @athousandlives7231 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Blood of Elves (Witcher series #3, Andrzej Sapkowski) as an audiobook for my gardening entertainment needs and The Tyrant‘s Tomb (Trials of Apollo #4, Rick Riordan) as a physical book for before bed.

  • @captainzoltan7737
    @captainzoltan7737 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "it doesn't target mums with low self esteem it's just those people are attracted to it" aka "hey we aren't trying to kill mice with the mouse traps. They just happen to draw in mice and kill them "

  • @MusicGeekery
    @MusicGeekery 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    The more they say the more my eyes narrow and my alarms blare. Especially the magnetism claims. Also the use of the word "icky" is really off-putting in this context. Icky is when you put your hand in a bucket of green goop. Not when someone commits a moral and legal offense that puts an individual or family through financial issues.
    Also I'm reading Marvel Knights: Defenders of the Streets

  • @Authentically_Aria
    @Authentically_Aria 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    You missed "Anyone can do it" and Guilt Tripping

    • @jessicacharlton7347
      @jessicacharlton7347 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      "It's so empowering" should've been on the bingo card. I'm kinda surprised it wasn't.

  • @RMaher-cz7gw
    @RMaher-cz7gw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Its quite sad I had a family member reach out to me and we hadn't spoken in a long time, I was really happy to talk with her, then she started trying to sell me Arborn (or however you spell it) products. And its happend a few times with old friends from school aswell. Definitely something they should stop doing it just comes off as money hungry and rude 😒

  • @lifelonglearner2498
    @lifelonglearner2498 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Love your content. I have never had anyone in my family who tried these sales gigs who actually made any money. They always end up with left over merchandise and empty pockets. I just finished reading the Shadow and Bone trilogy. It was an easy and fast read with likeable characters. A good choice for readers of fantasy. Now I am beginning Ray Bearer.

  • @michellebarnett2046
    @michellebarnett2046 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just finished Jemisen's The Broken Earth Trilogy and it was beyond words. Still in the grieving period before I start something new.

  • @sunsetblue06
    @sunsetblue06 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I'm reading American gods, and also listening to the first book in the series Shadow and bone.
    Apparantly I'm into fantasy these days.

  • @bruisedkneecap
    @bruisedkneecap 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    reading "Axiom's End" for my other queen , queen !

  • @PatryshaKorchinski
    @PatryshaKorchinski 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    “Crucial Conversations - Tools for talking when the stakes are high” is the book I’m reading.

  • @jennifershadforth3422
    @jennifershadforth3422 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'm listening rather than reading. To the complete collection of Sherlick Holmes, whilst walking to train for a charity Costa Rica coast to coast trek.

  • @AnonymousDragonWolf
    @AnonymousDragonWolf ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What I hate about MLMs the most is that they feed off of women being sick of andro-centricity and wanting to be in positions of power for once.

  • @lorielovesbooks7315
    @lorielovesbooks7315 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I am starting to read Mary Poppins A to Z the fifth book of Mary Poppins. I like MLM bingo better than drinking games.

  • @cookiesnbubbles
    @cookiesnbubbles 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I am a stay at home mother and I definitely feel cultural pressure (and economic pressure in my day to day) to have a career.
    Leftie here: I also know that the Capitalist hellscape can only keep the wheels on with all the unpaid labour provided by stay at home mothers, carers for elderly or sick relatives, volunteers, etc. If all the women/mothers stopped doing all the unpaid labour they do with the house and kids etc, the economy would grind to a halt as all the dads have to stay home (Finland or Denmark or somewhere Nordic had a women's strike decades ago and it was quite effective)

    • @gloriadell3416
      @gloriadell3416 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes! I was a stay at home mom, and to replace all you do with paid services would be outrageously expensive. Keep doing what you’re doing, fellow leftie! You are appreciated.

    • @angelamaryquitecontrary4609
      @angelamaryquitecontrary4609 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You are so right! (I think it was Iceland.)

  • @starophie
    @starophie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    maybe it's just me, but i feel like this person sounds constantly on the verge of tears. it's really upsetting, frankly! i can't imagine being so convinced that you're doing the right thing while it makes you physically upset.

  • @warriorcatskid003
    @warriorcatskid003 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What’s funny is that the “UK legalizing murder” hypothetical is pretty much how the US does gun control

  • @russelllahy8879
    @russelllahy8879 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I believe you got 12 on this one. Add "Any one can do it" when she says you can be anyone and join the community, the Vague financial claims for the no costs except the $125 if no sales or whatever, and "You have to put in the work/effort" for the gritty icky slog to get through (like relationships apparently). Also, currently re-reading Daughter of the Empire by Feist and Wurts. I too get sunburn. It helps me discover parts of my legs, back, neck and arms that I had forgotten existed.☀🔥

  • @Feamelwen
    @Feamelwen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    30:00 -> you should totally put any references to the "law of attraction" or any similar concept on the bingo card! That quackery is SO beloved in the MLM circles, because it's basically another excuse to say "well if you're not suceeding, it's because of your negative mindset! you attract negativity!"

  • @josieadkins6847
    @josieadkins6847 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I’m just finished reading The Girl On The Train!

  • @Jordan-bm8lp
    @Jordan-bm8lp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    If you need me, I’ll be in the corner L I V I N G for Emma’s hairstyle 💯

  • @miguelmackay4851
    @miguelmackay4851 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I´m gonna stay 10 feet away from any person that is part of the "Classy Boss Tribe"

  • @angelanichols6553
    @angelanichols6553 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    “...Massive gritty void of horror...” 😂😂😂 Maybe in her life, everything has come with horrible shitty phase so she doesn’t realize that it doesn’t have to be like that. Kind of sad.

  • @rhiwright
    @rhiwright 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Reading "How To Read a Graveyard" by Peter Stanford, and listening to "The Hollow Chocolate Bunnies of the Apocalypse" by Robert Rankin on Audible :)

  • @kestutisstugys1189
    @kestutisstugys1189 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think companies do not provide training on purpose. To save money, but also maintain plausible deniability.

  • @cpoco
    @cpoco 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I once went for a job with a marketing company... I spent a day walking around with one of their workers trying to sell raffle tickets for the special olympics. I wasn't super comfortable with it but then it got worse. Back at the office they explained how whenever you sell a ticket, you get a percentage of the sale, your supervisor gets a percentage... their supervisor gets a percentage etc etc. By the end of it all it sounded like for every $1 made, the charity only received maybe 10c because the marketing company had taken so many slices from the sale. Not sure if that counts as MLM.... but I was certainly reminded of it while watching this video.

  • @DraconiaDrawing
    @DraconiaDrawing 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I’m currently reading the His Dark Materials series

    • @neoscencez
      @neoscencez 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Love those books.

    • @JohnDoe-mk5zb
      @JohnDoe-mk5zb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I ended up surprised by how much I loved those books. Very enjoyable read.

  • @elena_1776
    @elena_1776 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love that you actually made the mlm bingo card!

  • @chelsikay13
    @chelsikay13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I loved The Three Body Problem! I'm in the middle of a few books: Blood of Elves, Redeemer by Jo Nesbo and Heartsong by TJ Klune!

  • @Ratciclefan
    @Ratciclefan ปีที่แล้ว +2

    She's basically saying "yes, these companies prey on women lacking confidence", but acting like that's a good thing

  • @tnicoal846
    @tnicoal846 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I am reading happy brain: where happiness comes from and why
    but my favorite recent book is In Defense of Food ♥️

  • @Amber-pt5oz
    @Amber-pt5oz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Currently reading "The name of the Wind", and "Save the cat" :)

  • @elise12345
    @elise12345 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm reading "The Cousins" by Karen McManus. I've been going through her whole catalogue. Very fun!

  • @PurplePinkRed
    @PurplePinkRed 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm brand new to your channel. 15 minutes in, I had to sub. You are very intelligent, kind and witty. I love it!

  • @MeteoBahamut
    @MeteoBahamut ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what's also always really noticable is the use of the terms 'team', 'family' and 'community' to describe the company. might also be something for the bingo though that is also like the tribe thing.

  • @Amelia7o9
    @Amelia7o9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I just finished The Last Emperox by John Scalzi, and it's the last in a trio called The Interdependency Series. I hope more books come out but the trio is fantastic.
    Also Circe by Madeline Miller is incredible and I highly recommend it to everyone :D

    • @hmneill
      @hmneill 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Love both of these books!

  • @laranadesign4764
    @laranadesign4764 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ok...being a full-time, stay-at-home parent is a collection of real jobs (daycare, housekeeping, chauffeur/taxi for minors, after school tutor, etc.) that would cost several salaries to have someone else do. If you do not feel respected, something is very wrong. Tell your partner and get it sorted or get out of that abusive relationship.

  • @daddy_bear7093
    @daddy_bear7093 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What MLMs, often, fail to mention is that by “recruiting only 5 ppl”, after 14 cycles we run out of ppl and we have to extend to other planets. 🤣😂

  • @phillyphakename1255
    @phillyphakename1255 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm reading Zen and The Art Of Motorcycle Maintenance. Good book. Talks about the difference between technically minded doers and people who think doing technical tasks is best left to specialists.
    I like to learn how stuff works, see if there are ways to optimize. My boss on the other hand was in the military and then did compliance testing where you must do everything exactly as the document specifies or the Sargent orders. This book helped me see the fundamentally different worldview between us.

  • @UpperDarbyDetailing
    @UpperDarbyDetailing ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One thing you missed, for every MLM there are PAGES of their products on eBay for half price, because of all of the people that weren't "gritty" enough are trying to dump the products and get back whatever they can. So why would you buy from a rep when you can get it half off one eBay?
    So, after a short time, you have to compete against eBay.

  • @evelynsanchez2347
    @evelynsanchez2347 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    THE THREE BODY PROBLEM IS LITERALLY ONE OF MY FAVORITE BOOKS !!!

  • @Aging_Casually_Late_Gamer
    @Aging_Casually_Late_Gamer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Her excuses fail when compared to the fact that over 90% of people who get into a MLM lose money.
    She cant turn that into a positive.

  • @julzbehr6696
    @julzbehr6696 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just finished skyward and am now starting the ladies guide to petticoats and piracy.

  • @MichelleJNorton
    @MichelleJNorton 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Notice how the MLM is an industry in itself. She's not the in the makeup industry, she's in the mlm industry.

  • @jsin3127
    @jsin3127 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I watched the video!!
    I'm reading 'Reading Ancient Slavery'. Doing research into Greek/Roman Slavery for a story I want to write and this book is a great collection of essays about the representation of Slavery in ancient classical texts. It's heavy, but if you enjoy literature evaluation then you'll love these essays.

  • @technicolorbarf6734
    @technicolorbarf6734 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Huns saying downplaying the responsibility of the company to properly train people to make sales angers me greatly, (I have tourettes) because my introduction to anti-mlm is strangers coming up to me/my family in the street trying to pitch me essential oils. On one hand, it was so weird and offensive, and on the other, it makes me genuinely sad that they were that desperate to make sales. And that also could only EVER happen with a mlm.

  • @cutecheerfreak1
    @cutecheerfreak1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just finished The Picture of Dorian Gray, just started Grapes of Wrath and I’m reading the short stories of Before the Coffee Cools. I’m catching up on a few classics I never read in lockdown and before the coffee cools is for a little touch of fantasy (my fave).

  • @grantcarpenter6685
    @grantcarpenter6685 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "It's a very modern capitalist idea that to have worth, to have personal worth, you have to be working."
    This point you made reminded me of Buckminster Fuller's philosophy vis-à-vis working - he believed that the majority of those working wouldn't need to work were it not for this very paradigm, and I agree with both him and you on this point.
    In fact, I'd wager that if Bucky were still alive, he'd be railing against MLM for the same reasons you're railing against it.
    Out of curiosity, Emma - have you read Fuller's "Operating Manual for Spaceship Earth"? I'm not currently reading it, but (assuming you haven't already read it) I think you'd agree with a lot of Fuller's analyses and statements.

    • @angelamaryquitecontrary4609
      @angelamaryquitecontrary4609 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He was truly amazing, wasn't he? And so far ahead of his time. I think Emma would enjoy his work, too.

  • @Soilfood365
    @Soilfood365 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can confirm - joined an MLM, my energy totally changed and I very much became magnetic. Not very profitable; my upline dropped me as I kept damaging computers by touching them, and now I have to eat all my food with a plastic spork as metal cutlery sticks to me.
    (Because it is the internet, I feel I should clarify that this is a joke).

  • @poireauetsespnjs5668
    @poireauetsespnjs5668 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Who Fears Death" Nnedi Okorafor is the book I'm reading for my bookclub.

  • @ParanormalEncyclopedia
    @ParanormalEncyclopedia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm up to my eyeballs in researching the Salem Witch Trials to write a book of my own. So right now I'm reading a big collection of trial transcripts myself, mostly while working an actual hourly job.

  • @leyrua
    @leyrua 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Under the manipulation chapter, I would argue that if a full-time stay-at-home parent thinks that they aren't contributing financially to the home, they ought to look up how much DAYCARE can cost. That's a net financial gain there.
    Heck, they could do what some of my friends do, and pool their time to help babysit one-another's kids so that some of them can run errands without paying the cost of a daycare.
    Don't fall for the whole "if you aren't working you aren't contributing (financially) to your household" scheme. Financial contributions don't always come in the form of a _paycheck._

  • @jcskyknight2222
    @jcskyknight2222 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Worth noting any money spent on a storefront, electricity, etc is ultimately still supporting families. The money does not vanish into the ether, it’s paying the wages of those who work for the company leasing the storefront, or who work at the power plant, or maintain the utility connections.
    It’s like people who complain about space missions and talk about money being “thrown into space”, it’s not, that’s not how economics work.
    Edit: I’m not really reading any books at the moment, unless you include re-reading books on orbital mechanics and NASA documentation…
    I need to start reading again.

  • @BooksandBuns
    @BooksandBuns 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Latest book I'm (gonna) read is a short story called The Bag, written by the son of my school councillor. She said it reminded her of me, so she gave it to me on my last day of college ;w;

  • @gloriadell3416
    @gloriadell3416 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Reading White Fragility. Still working through the book list I created last summer.

  • @deltasaves
    @deltasaves 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I so thought i was subbed... I am now though.
    Edit: I just finished Hair Story- untangling the roots of Black hair in America. Looking for some new books currently

  • @pfefferfilm
    @pfefferfilm ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just loaned "The Flowers in the Mirror" from the library and I'm excited to read it

  • @quinnwinter6361
    @quinnwinter6361 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    For the book club comment ... I’ve been reading Of Fire and Stars and it’s good! A cool fantasy wlw story

  • @pedrob7374
    @pedrob7374 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    MLMs are evil as hell.. BUT the gritty thing.. I get that.. I started my own business and.. ya unless you catch lighting in a bottle you end up working stupid, unhealthy, hours to get the ball rolling... you end up working longer hours then anyone who works for you.. hell.. I still do.

  • @jacindafreeman1898
    @jacindafreeman1898 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "The Greatest Hoax on Earth" the truth behind Frank Abignale and the "Catch Me if You Can" story

  • @jeffm9770
    @jeffm9770 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    She says you won't make thousands of dollars in 6 months but it's a business like any other business. No business that makes less than $2000 in six months stays in business. Then later she says most people make $500-$1000 a month

  • @emoooooly7350
    @emoooooly7350 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not a stay at home mom, but a stay at home wife. I find loads of fulfillment in running the house hold and taking care of my partner. It also gives me the opportunity to help my friends and family who do work full time and I find fulfillment in that as well. I directly impact my community behind the scenes, and I love it and I'm good at it. I make some money from a side gig that I spend about 5 hours a week on, but that's for extra spending money for hobbies.
    I know I'm lucky to be in the position where I don't need to work to survive, and that's a privilege, but just because I don't have a regular job doesn't mean that I'm worthless. I don't need a job or mlm to give me purpose in life. Not everyone does. I know for a fact that my lifestyle isn't for everyone, my best friend is the bread winner in her house hold, she loves it, she loves her job and she loves working.

  • @rayay248
    @rayay248 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I tend to read one nonfiction book and one novel in tandem, so I’m currently re-reading Brene Brown’s books as well as Brandon Sanderson’s Mistborn series for the first time.

  • @awpanda3459
    @awpanda3459 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It’s always a great day when there’s a new Emma video!!!

  • @ryleexiii1252
    @ryleexiii1252 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got an ad watching this video about how to automate MLM recruiting so you never even have to speak to the people who enroll; they can just start and do whatever.

  • @yogadork_namaste
    @yogadork_namaste 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm reading Rest in Pieces: The Curious Fates of Famous Corpses 📚

  • @HappyKat-wc4ld
    @HappyKat-wc4ld 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I've never been told not to steal pens 😂 thank goodness because I'm a master pen thief by accident. I just don't let go of them 😂

  • @t3hd0n
    @t3hd0n ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you know, i'm surprised some tech bro hasn't accidently remade an mlm by having an "uber for makeup" or something. "book a personal 1 on 1 appointment with a trained beauty technician, with same day delivery" and let the gig workers take out loans for inventory like how they're letting people rent cars for ubers now

  • @Hanndango
    @Hanndango 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just finished Layla by Colleen Hoover & holy cow. Quick read & the plot twists are goooooood.

  • @afgyhujkj4765
    @afgyhujkj4765 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm reading Anna Karinina and The Culture Map!