I just got an '03 Tahoe. I'm used to working on older trucks. My previously ''newest'' rig is a '71 GMC Jimmy. My instinct would be to disconnect the Battery before switching out any dash components. I'm wondering why you leave it live?
Sure, it's never a bad idea to pop a cable before doing work. The dash is signals from the pcm and bcm. Both are giving off no signals when the trucks off. And it's plugs so the probability of anything touching is very slim. But your right being safe is never sorry.
For now I just documented the miles on the cluster vs what I actually have. You can change the miles in the cluster but you have to have access to the software, cable etc. There are companies you can send it off to for a fee to correct it. I may do it in the future, but I have no plans on the truck going anywhere anytime soon. Thanks for checking out the channel!
This one was out of an 03 I believe. 99-02 have a different plug than the 03 and up. I also learned the 06/07 have a different read out of PRNDL so it is not showing up on my 07 classic but it doesn't bother me much. I believe this is also why the battery light suddenly turned on. But all the gauges work great including the trans temp. Thanks for checking out the channel!
The milage can be corrected with the proper software, GM Tech II or a high end obd scanner. It has a hefty price tag, and for a novice like myself, I can not justify purchasing it. There are services on eBay that will do it for you for a fee or possibly a mechanic near you. I noted the milage difference just so I would know what the difference is.
My gas gage does not work. My oil pressure is always pegged even when the truck is shut off. Sometimes my speedo stays at 60 when the truck is shut off so when I am doing about 40 it says I am doing 120. 2005 GMC Sierra.
May be a combination of sensors and cluster. Oil pegged at 80 usually means bad sensor. Pegged at 0 is usually a bad cluster. The gas gauge could be could be the sender in the tank or the gauge in the cluster. The speedo would more than likely be the cluster or the VSS signal from the transmission. An OBD scan tool that can register the oil and speed would help you determine those. The fuel gauge I would either try another cluster or see the OHM reading coming from the sending unit. If it's stuck wide open it will be stuck at 250, I believe. Hope this made sense
I put an 03 Escalade cluster in my 04 Silverado 1500 and the only lights that worked were my engine light and blinkers. Literally nothing else worked. Any suggestions? Thank you
So, the cluster will work across 99-06, but there are differences. They are broken down by 99-02, 03-04, 05-06(07 classic). In my case, I put an 03 cluster in my 07 classic. All gauges work, and it functions as it should, but I have no PRNDL and a constant battery light due to different charging systems and displays. It doesn't bother me, but to be 100% functional, get a cluster in your same model year group.
Mahalo nui!!! What is approx price of a rebuilt gauge cluster? If anyone can throw a guess. Where I am at we do not have many or any boneyards anymore. And what is needed to get the trans gauge working if my 03 did not come with one?
There are several rebuilders online and on eBay. I would read reviews and pick one with a lot of good reviews. The trans temp provisions are already in the wiring. Mine reads the trans temp, and my original gauge cluster did not have it.
The two I would look at are the gauge cluster and the sending unit in the fuel tank. If it's moving around crazy I'd gamble the gauge. If it's pegging to one side no matter how much fuel is in it, I'd say sending unit. To confirm the sending unit, you would need to get under the truck and find the wires going to the tank. Probe the sending unit wire and see the OHM resistance it's putting out.
They are grouped 99-02, 03-04, 05-07. They will work across the groups, but some things will be weird. Like the PRNDL indicator, battery light (like mine), etc.
Yes. Try and get a 99-01 cluster so you don't get any weird warning lights. My battery light is always on since they are in different styles. But they are all interchangeable to an extent
Yes, the cluster I used was from an 03, and my truck is an 07. They used different alternators so I have a battery light on. It works, but just have the dummy light. The years are grouped 99-02, 03-04, 05-07 classic
Nope, the trans temp wiring is already there as well. Just make sure you get one that matches up. 99-02 I believe we're different than the 03-06. You can have them programmed with the correct milage, but I plan to drive mine until the frame breaks, so it doesn't bother me.
Yes. The cluster needs to come out of a 99-02 though. The cluster would work for other years, but some functions may be weird. My battery light is stuck on since my swap cluster was out an 03, and my truck is a 07 classic. They used two different types of alternators, so the cluster isn't reading my alternator correctly. But all the gauges work fine.
Run a scan tool on the obd port to see if it actually has a service air bag warning, usually a sensor on the front bumper, or if the cluster is just acting up. My charging system is working fine, but my battery light is stuck on. I think it's a short in the cluster or since my truck is an 07 and the cluster was from an 03/04 it may not be happy with me.
Yep, have another video where I tried to track down the cause. The gear indicator is also not functional, I'm thinking it's got a short in the board somewhere. Good eye 👍
@@macsboneyardbuilds gear indicators not working is not because you have a short. It's because your original cluster was from an 06-07 and those clusters don't have a digital gear shift indicator they have a printed gear indicator. If you're going to put a gauge cluster that has a digital gear indicator, those are only compatible with 03-05 trucks
@@macsboneyardbuilds also the gauge cluster that you have is an 03-07 cluster and 99-02 clusters don't use stepper motors, they use air core motor. So the title of this video should be 03-06
The factory wiring already has the provisions for trans temp. If you get an HD cluster or Escalade cluster, it reads the trans temp with no modification necessary 👍
I've gotta do a cluster swap in the coming weeks so when I pull my dash I'll come back and let you know!
It's not hard at all. Thanks for checking out the channel!
How’d the swap go?
Thank you for your videos. I have been in the automotive field for years yet I am still learning.
Thank you. I'm just a guy who enjoys wrenching, figuring out solutions, and sharing anything I figure out along the way.
2:48 took note of my mileage and was able to have a guy put the original miles on my Escalade cluster
That’s what I’m looking for
How much did he charge you ?
Wow, that was super simple. Nice video, new sub.
Thank you. I appreciate you checking out the channel and subscribing!
I just got an '03 Tahoe. I'm used to working on older trucks. My previously ''newest'' rig is a '71 GMC Jimmy. My instinct would be to disconnect the Battery before switching out any dash components. I'm wondering why you leave it live?
Sure, it's never a bad idea to pop a cable before doing work. The dash is signals from the pcm and bcm. Both are giving off no signals when the trucks off. And it's plugs so the probability of anything touching is very slim. But your right being safe is never sorry.
My question though, did the transmission gauge start reading since you didn't have one before with just hooking it up?
Yes, the trans temp will work for all models. Even if yours originally did not have the gauge.
I pulled the dash off of my 03 and the name was Peggy
4/06/04 Peggy
There are many like it but this is mine!
Mine too 10/12/05 ottowa onterio
Good video bud! That's what's I appreciates about you's!
Question for you... What about the odometer matching miles for miles? Thanks
For now I just documented the miles on the cluster vs what I actually have. You can change the miles in the cluster but you have to have access to the software, cable etc. There are companies you can send it off to for a fee to correct it. I may do it in the future, but I have no plans on the truck going anywhere anytime soon. Thanks for checking out the channel!
Yo that for the vid man. What year Escalade was the cluster from?
This one was out of an 03 I believe. 99-02 have a different plug than the 03 and up. I also learned the 06/07 have a different read out of PRNDL so it is not showing up on my 07 classic but it doesn't bother me much. I believe this is also why the battery light suddenly turned on. But all the gauges work great including the trans temp. Thanks for checking out the channel!
You have a 03-05 cluster now in your 06/07c
Now you will have a permanent battery light and no prnd indicator
You're correct. Learned of the difference after the fact. All the gauges are working, so the light doesn't bother me.
What was the purpose of noting the milage? I was under the impression that you were going to change it to match your old one.
The milage can be corrected with the proper software, GM Tech II or a high end obd scanner. It has a hefty price tag, and for a novice like myself, I can not justify purchasing it. There are services on eBay that will do it for you for a fee or possibly a mechanic near you. I noted the milage difference just so I would know what the difference is.
@@macsboneyardbuilds thank you.
My gas gage does not work. My oil pressure is always pegged even when the truck is shut off. Sometimes my speedo stays at 60 when the truck is shut off so when I am doing about 40 it says I am doing 120. 2005 GMC Sierra.
May be a combination of sensors and cluster. Oil pegged at 80 usually means bad sensor. Pegged at 0 is usually a bad cluster. The gas gauge could be could be the sender in the tank or the gauge in the cluster. The speedo would more than likely be the cluster or the VSS signal from the transmission. An OBD scan tool that can register the oil and speed would help you determine those. The fuel gauge I would either try another cluster or see the OHM reading coming from the sending unit. If it's stuck wide open it will be stuck at 250, I believe. Hope this made sense
It's all stepper motor and cold solder joints in the board. I can repair your cluster for $300 and even add led lights
I put an 03 Escalade cluster in my 04 Silverado 1500 and the only lights that worked were my engine light and blinkers. Literally nothing else worked. Any suggestions? Thank you
Yeah, that's weird. Your high beam, tow/haul, etc should all be cross compatible. Did you get to see the cluster working in the escalade?
I'm wanting to do this swap in my 02.....What range years do I need for my swap...I'm assuming 99-06?
So, the cluster will work across 99-06, but there are differences. They are broken down by 99-02, 03-04, 05-06(07 classic). In my case, I put an 03 cluster in my 07 classic. All gauges work, and it functions as it should, but I have no PRNDL and a constant battery light due to different charging systems and displays. It doesn't bother me, but to be 100% functional, get a cluster in your same model year group.
I got a 2002 suburban,what year Escalade cluster will fit my suburban?
Should be 00-02. Others would work, but some lights may stay on, like my batt light. And the PRNDL indicators are different.
Mahalo nui!!! What is approx price of a rebuilt gauge cluster? If anyone can throw a guess. Where I am at we do not have many or any boneyards anymore.
And what is needed to get the trans gauge working if my 03 did not come with one?
There are several rebuilders online and on eBay. I would read reviews and pick one with a lot of good reviews. The trans temp provisions are already in the wiring. Mine reads the trans temp, and my original gauge cluster did not have it.
What year did the cluster come out of
Believe it was an 04'
Would this fix my 02 silverados fuel gauge issue,it goes from F to E even though it’s never on a empty tank and the low fuel message comes up as well
The two I would look at are the gauge cluster and the sending unit in the fuel tank. If it's moving around crazy I'd gamble the gauge. If it's pegging to one side no matter how much fuel is in it, I'd say sending unit. To confirm the sending unit, you would need to get under the truck and find the wires going to the tank. Probe the sending unit wire and see the OHM resistance it's putting out.
You need a 99-02 cluster they are different plugs and computers.
Does it have a to be specific year cluster? Or just relatively same years?
They are grouped 99-02, 03-04, 05-07. They will work across the groups, but some things will be weird. Like the PRNDL indicator, battery light (like mine), etc.
Where did you get the cluster from?
It was out of an 03 Escalade I believe. Picked it up from a local junkyard, but I see them on marketplace and ebay all the time.
@ thanks man! And the cluster will fit in a 01 sierra?
Yes. Try and get a 99-01 cluster so you don't get any weird warning lights. My battery light is always on since they are in different styles. But they are all interchangeable to an extent
I did an Escalade swap many years ago. My gauge pod has stainless rings around every individual gauge. It looks much better than yours.
Your style is the best one, I agree. They had several different style escalade gauges throughout the years.
Do it matter what year Escalade you pull it from ???
Yes, the cluster I used was from an 03, and my truck is an 07. They used different alternators so I have a battery light on. It works, but just have the dummy light. The years are grouped 99-02, 03-04, 05-07 classic
@@macsboneyardbuilds thanks man much needed
No problem
So if you have a 99-02 what cluster year would work perfectly
@@lamarevans66 99-02
What year caddy cluster??
I believe it was out of an 03 or 04
So no programming required?
Nope, the trans temp wiring is already there as well. Just make sure you get one that matches up. 99-02 I believe we're different than the 03-06. You can have them programmed with the correct milage, but I plan to drive mine until the frame breaks, so it doesn't bother me.
Battery light is on
Yep, wrong year cluster. Difference in alternators; it's charging though so not bugging me too bad.
Dose the trans temp gauge work?
Yes. The wiring for trans temp is already in the factory wiring harness.
Will this work on a 2000 yukon xl?
Yes. The cluster needs to come out of a 99-02 though. The cluster would work for other years, but some functions may be weird. My battery light is stuck on since my swap cluster was out an 03, and my truck is a 07 classic. They used two different types of alternators, so the cluster isn't reading my alternator correctly. But all the gauges work fine.
Can’t get airbag light off mine
Is a scan showing service airbag from pcm?
@@macsboneyardbuilds I have a 2000 mine don’t have the 03-07 dash
Run a scan tool on the obd port to see if it actually has a service air bag warning, usually a sensor on the front bumper, or if the cluster is just acting up. My charging system is working fine, but my battery light is stuck on. I think it's a short in the cluster or since my truck is an 07 and the cluster was from an 03/04 it may not be happy with me.
Well I hope I didn’t misgender my 02 Suburban since now I know they have names. I just call him Beast.
Mine is Aldolfo 😂🤦♂️🇺🇸
Battery light stayed on 😢
Yep, have another video where I tried to track down the cause. The gear indicator is also not functional, I'm thinking it's got a short in the board somewhere. Good eye 👍
@@macsboneyardbuilds what year escalade is that cluster from?
@@macsboneyardbuilds gear indicators not working is not because you have a short. It's because your original cluster was from an 06-07 and those clusters don't have a digital gear shift indicator they have a printed gear indicator. If you're going to put a gauge cluster that has a digital gear indicator, those are only compatible with 03-05 trucks
You're right, thanks for the heads up.
@@macsboneyardbuilds also the gauge cluster that you have is an 03-07 cluster and 99-02 clusters don't use stepper motors, they use air core motor. So the title of this video should be 03-06
Can you add a trans temp sensor and hook it to that cluster ?
The factory wiring already has the provisions for trans temp. If you get an HD cluster or Escalade cluster, it reads the trans temp with no modification necessary 👍
I can add transmission temp to your cluster, it's as easy as wiring in a stepper motor changing the overlay and adding a needle.
Nancy lol