SHERCO vs KTM | Which is better for Enduro ?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 ก.ค. 2024
- Both bikes are very good and each has advantages and disadvantages. KTM has long been a well known brand and a leader in the enduro world and racing. But Sherco proved to be a good competitor in the racing, for us hobby riders he is a very good dirtbike and comes with a lot more equipment than KTM.
Want a better suspension? Cheaper parts? More Traction?
Buy Sherco SE300
Want a more aggressive engine? More parts stores? Easier to sell later?
Buy KTM EXC300 TPI
KTM TPI is a very good dirtbike and very easy to use. You have two tanks that matter, one for fuel and the other for two stroke oil. You don’t have a problem with mixing fuel like you have on sherco. You can also tip over the dirtbike and the fuel will not leak under, which is good if you often crash or ride very extreme enduro tracks. You can save a lot of fuel when compared to a carburetor. Ktm with wp suspension has a big advantage when compared to sherco and kayaba. In the middle of the forest, you can manually adjust the suspension to your liking, if you want harder or softer. While with the kyaba this is a problem and a tool is needed for it, and even with the tool it is difficult to adjust the compression on the front forks.
But Sherco also has advantages, you can adjust the carburetor and adjust the engine to your wishes and riding style and on ktm tpi you cant do that. It is easier to ride in difficult conditions in hard enduro, and gives much more traction on the ground what is really important. KYB suspension is much more stable than WP, and is suitable for competition. Parts are much cheaper than for KTM, for us hobby riders this is very significant. Because this has become a very expensive sport in short time.
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Good video, and I think you were very fair in your thoughts.
Love my Sherco 300 SE, the TPI bikes that I've ridden just seem dull.
One weak point (relative to KTM) of the Sherco is the stock clutch. This can be resolved with a Rekluse Core Manual rebuild. The Sherco motor is better for super technical riding, especially for low end power and holding pressure/traction. KYB suspension is also better out of the box on the Sherco. But keeping a carb jetted in varying conditions is a bit of work.
A Sherco 300 Factory, with Smart Carb and a Rekluse Core Manual Clutch is an awesome set up, but you are taking an already expensive bike, and then adding about $1500 more in aftermarket parts.
Very interesting! Thank you! I’ve got husky 300 carburator 2017. Very Very good and simple to ride in difficult condition
That's why I bought the last year of the carbed ktm 250xc 2019 and so glad I did .
I have over 400 hours on my Sherco and it runs better then new. Hope they keep the carb as long as possible.
I am a carburator fan on 2stroke bikes, you can feel diference when tunning the bike, i think the tpi system needs more fine tuning in the position the injector is, keep up the good work💪💪👍👍
Great point!
Fully agree. The snowmobiles in that world, and Yamaha's new shown engine of 2024 300cc 2 stroke with fuel and oil injection and electric start will have the fuel injector in front of the reed cage, not in the transfer ports like KTM (a dumb idea).
Perfect video ! Best regards from chile 🇨🇱
I have had 3 ktm tpi bikes thay we're all good bikes and you can adjust the power valves they also have 2 ignition maps .all new bikes have growing pains sherco bikes have issues to as far as the tractibility of the tpi it's outstanding .as far as I'm concerned it's better than the carb bikes I have owned .
Then why do all of the factory hard enduro riders run carbs instead of injection???
Great Info! if you have experience with husky, would be good to have a comparison “husky vs Sherco”
Good video. Totally agree with your carb vs tpi opinion!
Yes! Thank you!
Does the sherco have a wide ratio trans like the w or is it regular closed ratio
Would never change my Sherco for a Ktm
I like the carburator, and Sherco îs the best option on the market.
I love my sherco 👍👍
What about the 4 stroke models,, I am a normal intermediate rider,, ktm 350 exc or sherco 300 sef??
It seems like a ktm 500 but with better parts? And when i say better parts i mean not bling like the ktm 6days.
My question is, would a 500 EXC-F be worth leaving for a 500 SEF?
this is a good video. i'm riding a 2000 Honda CR250R as a hard enduro bike. Ive done some motor mods to make it more low end friendly and a bash plate and pipe guard, along with different gearing. i'd love a modern electric start enduro bike though like the Sherco though
Good video!! I need ur sister to change the oil & filter on my CRF250R!
Beta is also a good alternative. Got a 300 rr and love it in hard enduro
Most Beta riders I know got feed up the problems and got rid of them and got KTM, Yamaha,..
The Betas had to get new wiring harnesses as they caused problems because the wires were too thin and broke.
I know many 2 stroke Betas that the engines blew up around 50 hours.
@@human1513 Rode with tons of people with Betas. Never heard of this issue, it sounds like an isolated incident...Nobody would go from a Beta to a yamaha either, they're not even comparable.
@@StephenSutton94 I can only speak of the riders I know. I also know of other KTM's that KTM bought back from the customers.
Beta probelms are not isolated and well documented. Dealers tell me so. One dealer owner is a good friend of mine and he concures. Look them up on the internet. Unfortunately most people seem too scared to tell they had problems with any product which does not fully present reality.
@@StephenSutton94 KTM problems and what the new 2023 bikes are likely to have such as throttle body injection and back to premix again. Like Graham Jarvis and Bill Bolt are using now. th-cam.com/video/XxRNiFChUck/w-d-xo.html
Most beta owners i know have 2 problems, thay ride slow in fast sections, thay have to fix thair bikes all the time. I always had japan bikes and i only had to fix stuff i broke not stuff broke by itself, one guy i onow evem got a brand new Beta and it already had a broken cylinder🤷🤦 i mean... I have one old old Beta trial bike and that is the only Beta i will ever have
Hi sister! 👋 Looks like a pleasant and competent mechanic and person.
KTM has a 2 map system.
The connector to connect / disconnect is under the fuel tank on the left side of the frame. Full power is MAP 1 with the single wire white connector connected. MAP 2 is with the connector disconnected.
KTM sells a right side handlbar switch thumb operated to be installed that goes in series with the connector. MAP 1 is full power and MAP 2 retards the timing for a softer power delivery. No need to remove the fuel tank to access the connector if the switch is installed.
MY KTM 300 TPI blew the engine completely at 7 hours of trail riding.
What is the reason why it blew?
@@kordapyo612 No one knows. Not the dealer or KTM. They installed a new oil pump this time along with a new motor. I have yet to ride it.
@@human1513 That sucks. I remembered back home in the Philippines when Toyota first introduced the D4D engines in their several line up. Whenever we encounter major problems in the engine like no start, black smoke, low power, stalling and the likes. The very first we do (if it is determined that the problem is in the fuel system) as instructed by Toyota is we have to replace the high pressure fuel pump, common rail, high pressure pipes, fuel filter and injectors as they couldn't determine the root cause yet.
So, what are you getting next? I'm looking at Sherco or Rieju myself. I like that the Rieju still has the kick start. I've never ridden the Rieju (Gas Gas) but it seems like the Sherco has really good smooth torque for technical riding. Not sure about the GasJu power delivery and electric start reliability?
Look at a Tm En300es
2022 electric start is much better than older models. Power delivery on the rieju is a lot more in your face than the sherco also. Backup kicker is also a huge bonus. I’ve had to bump start my sherco in a race and wasn’t happy about it at all
Really like your clips mate
Am going back to carburetor, easier to maintain
Riding a Huski 150 i at the moment
Love the playful nature of it
I ride technical enduro but don’t do extreme stuff
Am light and like light bikes, think 300 will be too much
Beta or sherco 250 ?
Even beta 200 ?, you should do a clip on this bike if you get a chance
What you think ?
Maybe a Beta Xtrainer. 300 cc and light to. And not high.
Very usefull video. More videos like this
More to come!
Sherco for sure, but the ktm clutch is flawless
I agree
@@TheDirtbikeRider can't you modify the sherco clutch a bit to be better?
Depends on what you can afford and availability of parts where you live to maintain each one.
When the KTM TPI computer chips are in the junkpile, my carbed 2 strokes will still be out on the trail.
I don’t like tpi but if that helps meet emissions to keep 2 smokes on the trail I’m for it.
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It's more about the rider than the bike and what chassis feels better other than that a pro rider can make any bike look good!
you can use a smartcarb instead of carborator but they cost alot but no tuning except idle and fuel/air no jetting or piolet needle
hello, Beta RR 300 or Sherco se factory 300, which is more powerful, more aggressive, more brutal, more reliable, faster in the forest on difficult trails and difficult climbs thanks to the people who will answer me! 🤝🏻
I like your voice better than the robot sound. Cool accent.
Wow, thanks, i will start with my voice in future.
Tpi bikes may seem simpler without mixing gas jetting ect but they do require more maintenance with all the sensors oil pump ect
So its always a trade off !
‘This my sister, she is no. 4 best dirt bike mechanic in all Kazakhstan…jagshemash!’😁👊
Just wondering if you guys like Fox Shocks? I see a lot of the WP Shocks on y’alls bikes!
Have Fox shocks been available for dirt bikes since the 70s/80s? I think they are mountain bike shocks only now.
Fox shocks? Do they even make dirt bike suspension?!
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Μονο sherco φιλε μου
How tall are you …?
What’s with the electronically generated sounding voice?
Wat are those orange air filters called
Funnelweb filters 👍🏻
michael is correct !, Funnelweb is one of best filter what you can get
Спасибо за инфу
Lo único que entendí fue lo su bella hermana es juego buen video.
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Ktm larme absolument la meilleure pour moi 👍👌💪💪💪💪💪
Sherco with a SmartCarb2 is super owerpowered compared to KTM
Sherco boyZ 4 life... carb bikes till I die 🤙🤙🤙
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For my height 172 cm, I think that Sherco is better. But KTM also has lowering kit. Difficult to solve
Can i hire your mechanic?😂👌
Agreed…other than not putting any oil on the air filter!
@2:32 😂
Всё, что понял из ролика,что сестра симпатичная 😆😆
Llevo tiempo con motos y me gusta las 2t y ahora en esta comparación me quedaría con la sherco .
KTM a se a subido mucho a la nube
Lo bueno sale caro aunque hay muchas opciones más a buen precio 🙏
White power forks?
Thats what WP stands for and what the brand used to be called. WB is more PC.
Honda 2022 crf 450x
I've never liked WP suspension.
Carb all the way. Lectron - jetless 100%
How tall are you?
1m and 80 cm
Bad audio too low ..
maybe 2017 ktm is best when i want carb
that's for sure, 2017 with keihin is best !
sherco or beta ?
Ktm exc 300 or Beta RR 300
nice sister
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keren
There is a very little difference between dirt bikes.
I'm not a fan of WP or TPI. So I went with Sherco 300se. It was good bike, & looks really good too. My new bike is a Reiju 300mr works. Carbureted, SSS Kayaba suspension is by far better than other 2 bikes. I highly recommend it.
That's true..... Rieju has the best Moto tunning 💪🏻🔥
Can you say specifically what you like better on the Reju?
My Rieju MR 300 Factory is running with VHM Heat and it's a Special Edition 🔥
Stock vs stock 300se is gapping ktm 300
Fuck oil injection, get a lectron, call it a day
Ktm looks more beautiful than sherco
Anything the comes from KTM is slow in coming. Son needs a head for his Husqvarna FX 350. Back ordered from Nov to April. That is not acceptable by any means. Ducati learned their lesson by not having a warehouse of parts in the USA.
I love your sister! Where are you from? 😁
I would like your sister to fix my heart😪
hahaha nice one
Good video but...
1) you said that TPI has less low end throttle power delivery than carbs. I would agree that TPI is much "smoother" off throttle therefor feels less abrupt power wise off low end.
2) but you then said TPI is harder in hard enduro technical situations because its power delivery is too harsh. But this contradicts your first statement. TPI bikes are coined "goats" because they simply tractor up things with ease and smoothness of their power delivery. Carb bikes dont have those same smooth power characteristics.
3) You said there was nothing to indicate the oil pump was not functioning but I was to understand the ECU has an oil pump error code for signal too high and too low. Which was to tell the operator if the oil pump was functioning. I'll have to check into that...
tpi has lower torque in low rpm and than the hit in mid range is noticably more agressive than on carb... so he was exactly right... no tpi has same or better low rpm grunt than correctly jetted carb... you sound like somebody who has TPI and have not tried different bike
@@HarduroSK - Looks like you didn't listen to what he said and didn't read what I wrote.
@@Crazystuffyousee you misunderstood the video! Watch it again.
I'm not buying any bike with a carburetor period. Does anyone have a car with a carb? Any formula 1 guys? If it is a car from the 70's or 80's I understand but any cars made in the 90s forward with a card? I think there is a good reason for that.
llol de podium lol husqvarna for shure! oui oui et non sais pas un ktm..husqvarna a gardé toute ses droit! ktm les on juste acheté..
the power of bottom is perfect
No Yamaha - No Like
Yamaha or any Japanese manufacturers don't make a bike for hard enduro. Sure, you can put a big bore kit in it, but it will still get left behind in the hard technical sections!!
If Yamaha would build a 2 stroke hard Enduro bike i would own one already
Yamaha is trash.
@@bbarker5766Pol Tarres proved you wrong there m8… he runs a YZ250X with basically zero mods.
@chrispewkreme when has ge raced the yz250x? He made 1 video on it and then started racing the T700. The yz250x is good ive had 2 of them but it's like buying a brand new 2006 model bike. But the guy saying yamaha is trash is a dumbass yamaha makes the most dependable bike out there period... but they are way behind the ball
I agree KTM sucks
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Sherco the ktm killer the is what call it world champion GP A REAL MEN BIKE NOT TPI FOR WOMEN CANT MIX FUEL AND KTM BREACKS ALL TIME IN SHOP ALL TIMES LOL KTM DONT CARE FOR YOUR BIKE RIPPS YOU OFF THEY CALL COP GET OUT SHOP