Mercedes-AMG E63 S v Tesla Model S P100D v HSV GTSR | Wheels Australia
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- ON FIRST inspection, the Tesla Model S, Mercedes-AMG E-Class and HSV GTS might seem as similar as chalk, cheese and chicken pox, but a head-to-head battle between the most potent versions of each marque's line-up makes more sense than you may think. Read our full comparison piece here: www.wheelsmag....
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Tesla have Launch Control and you don't realize.......
Gerard Aliaga Navarro car wasn’t in ludicrous mode.
Also the reviewer isn’t very smart, he’s just paid to review as many cars as he can.
dislike because you did not sho the tesla acceleration on drag race
fucking tesla fanboy
asking to see a car compared fairly to others does not make one a fanboy. You fucking idiot.
Drag times are the most irrelevant factor when buying a car.
Shobin Drogan
Actually, the more information you can have on a car before you buy it, the better.
I will not buy a car if I don’t have sufficient information on the car.
You don’t buy perfume without smelling it first.
Charlie Yes because 0-60 times are sooooo difficult to comeby online, rarely do car companies ever release them when they make a car. Amirite?
tesla P100D will do 2.4 second from 0 - 60mph.
And so?
@@Yddp3307 It makes the mercedes look like standing still. Only old people with weak bodies who can not handle G-forces drive mercedes nowadays. They tried to up their game with LED light interior but that only distracts the driver and looks cheap.
for the record:
Tesla P100D 0-60mph 2.28
1/4 mile et 10.5
they are doing under 10.4 now with the most recent update... madness!
you should have put it into ludicrous+ mode
Benjamin Cherian still a heavy vacuum cleaner
You know nothing Clous von
Clous von.
Yes really it sounds like vaccum cleaner..
I like turbo props than a whinning jet engine..
With all the instability of a turbo props, it's fun to fly..
I could turn around and say that the other two cars are just souped-up lawnmowers :P Comparing a car to a domestic appliance is truly witless. I was just making a comparison on your level to show you how stupid it sounds.
Are you aware that there isn't much difference right? I have driven both
2,7 seconds?.... Mate......... its 2,4 or 2,5 seconds. How can I possibly take your review serious when you dont even check the facts
Lol bullshit and im 5 minutes in. Why no 0-60 time and quarter mile time for the tesla, but you did for merc and hsv???
Mercedes E63S plus ♡
By the way there is a launch control on the Tesla.
Ill take the E63
AMG any day...........
You don't buy a performance sedan for it to be silent and boring regardless of power.
You absolutely correct
The hsv and e63 would be way more fun
Agree with others, there are things you have to do in order to launch P100D. 1 Enable Ludacris mode it will heat up the batteries. 2. Press the break pedal and "Go" pedal 2x. 3. Keep it pressed 2nd time and let go of the break, it will say it's in a launch mode. Enjoy 0-60 2.28 - 2.5 depending on the road. When it comes to handling Tesla is pretty good, still can't compete with GTRs and similar. I will still take the Tesla bc of savings (Planet and the gas money) :) E63 is great nevertheless.
Marcin Gornik I think that in a few years when Tesla focuses more on making true performance vehicles, they will be pumping out some monsters. I'm not exactly sure when the model S replacement will be on the market, I don't think we will see that until 2019 or 2020. But, if the model 3 and Model do bring in the income that Tesla needs we may see some truly special vehicles from them.
And of course, we have the next roadster. And if they do have a dual gearbox set up anything like the EP9 or concept one then that thing will be a missile. I really, really hope they try to make a performance monster with that. I hope they study a lot of what is on the market. True torque vectoring, rear wheel steering, lightweighting, active aerodynamics, and so on. I want to see Tesla build something amazing. If they do build a performance machine, I would rather them go for it and make a super car. If Rimac and NIO can do it, Tesla can too.
But failing that, I think a high-performance GT would suffice as a halo car for them. They don't necessarily have to put something out there to go up against cars like the 911, R8 and AMG GT if they don't feel they are ready.
Marcin Gornik
How do you mean it still "can't compete with GTRs and similar"? A GTR and a Tesla isn't in the same classification of cars. However, the Tesla P100D will still toast ANY stock GTR in a 1/4 mile drag race.
tmat04 Will not smoke GTR Nismo stock. Same price range. But you are absolutely correct not the same class. I can actually pack entire weekend trip and a dog in a Model S. :)
+BigBlackNerd There is so much more to do with supercars than 0-60 times. /SMH Your electric car is meant to be as efficient as possible, with the least drag. Put it on a track, and it won't even do 1 lap before turning into limp mode, let alone all the electronics holding the car to a terminal understeer stance. Son, you'll have a LOT more fun in a $25k Mazda Mx5 than that "200k electric supercar"
Honfy Lam Without driving an EP9 or Concept One, how exactly can you, or I, or anyone else make that argument?
I think it's worth mentioning we've had well over 100 years of consistent ICE development, leading to modern day performance monsters. And early ICE race cars were objectively terrible. Electric cars have come in fits and starts. This is the first time I'm aware of for an industry wide push, coupled with increasing regulatory pressure from governments to force the switch. Why don't we wait and see what EV's are capable of when they're more mature before we jump to conclusion? It wasn't that long ago that the G-wiz was the only electric car you could buy. Now we have the Model S, Concept One, EP9, and cars on the way from Audi, Porsche, Jaguar & Mercedes. Just give it some time.
why didn't you applied ludicrous+ mode?
Call me crazy but I'll take the HSV without hesitating
As much as we like the Merc the Tesla is just on another level
Lord of the Jungle it's not lol it can do a quick quarter mile and that's it
Clous von
Only a quick quarter mile?
No shit, Mercedes and all luxury cars placed everything they got in their hood for that matter..
And now they lose..
They now change the scope?
"On another level" Lmao tesla is nothing but an over subsidized, plastic smartphone with a steering wheel. The mercedes spells class and character the tesla can't even dream of.
plastic? It's made of metal though? Admittedly the Merc is more luxurious but I'd rather own the Tesla.
it's a rig review from the start smh
Why did you not show the Et of the Tesla???
sasman1964
It'll shame the other two
because it's twice as fast as the Australian car (0-100 kmh)
Yeah, bs review. Reviewers in cahoots with dinosaur fossil fuel car makers agree not to show them up. Tesla is being systematically reduced in stature in many channels and publications. Often they aren't even mentioned even when talking about EV's!
@@swedishsolar9504 unfortunately you've got no idea what your talking about. You put someone who has any idea how to handle a powerful v8 behind the wheel of the austrlian hsv and it will eat the tesla on the steeet. I also garuntee you the owner of the hsv will kick the sh1t out of the tesla soy boy 🎉
What was time and speed to tesla 1/4 mile?
They did show other cars but not tesla.
Tesla just a milk float with a big engine. It’s useless past 100 mph on, both hsv and the merc would leave it for dead, no thanks, il take the gtsr.
Actually the Tesla would have reached 100 way quicker of you had set launch mode on...launch mode makes the car push..while your not moving so as soon as you take your foot of the brake...max batter power is applied...which will give you 0-100 In 2.6 seconds...don’t believe me look it up
oml this dude didn't even put it in ludicrous plus
Also the P100D accelerstion is faster than falling. (0-60)
sorry to be offtopic but does someone know of a way to log back into an Instagram account??
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@Clayton Spencer Instablaster =)
You can only compare the AMG with other German high performance divisions, not with a low quality built Holden. Telsla is an electric car, so driving it like you are marrying a girl without soul.
the P100DL will do 0-60mph in 2.3seconds but tesla won't admit that
elon musk already confirmed this and he represent tesla/is an owner, so i'd say yes, tesla will admit that
There's a ~cubic performance curve in relation to state of charge. ~90-95% is more like 2.4s. ~75-90% about 2.5s, ~50% = 2.7s, ~25% = 2.9s, ~10% = 3.9s.
Muskar shut the fk up you little klugscheisser
What's "smart ass" about my statement? It isn't exactly well-known stats, so I figured I'd share.
I’ll take the hsv any dam day of the week it’s a Aussie classic it’s meant to be raced I hate the Tesla and amg they look ugly all you need to here is that lion roar down the track to change your mind
This review is the most appalling iv'e ever seen but hey it's wheels Australia
Why no 0 to 100 kph or 1/4 times for the Tesla weren't Tesla paying you enough
Because it minced the other 2 lol
Great vid Wheels, But can we see cars like these race track tested.
Straight line times are ok but handling and braking is the focus of HSV and AMG.
He said the hsv was 435kw and I know that's the power of the maloo but I thought the w1 was 474 kw
Its not the w1 thats why.. w1 has different motor ls9 not lsa
Gtsr w1 is powered by the American c6 corvette zr1 engine
I like to have Tesla and mercedes .
U have not answered which car is faster. Something like lap times would actually be useful
Dude , where is the result for the Tesla and why you didn't do drag race 🏁?
Cause it destroyed them
E 63 the best
My car if I win Lotto , a 4 door luxury sedan as fast as a 458 Italia . Brilliant ! $ 250 k , bargain , I'll have mine in black , thanks .
Go to hell
@@ChrisM-kf4rp Would rather have a 4 door sedan faster than any production car in the world so no thanks.
it's not TEZZZLAAA... it's TESLA
So the slower but louder cars are better.
How so?
All show no substance, presenter should have been a politician.
Love the E63 S.
What a bloody waste of time
Excellent cinematography guys. Well done! Deserving of more subscribers, that is for sure.
I would take e63s any time! Tesla is killing me with silence… Hsv nowadays is heavily overpriced for what it is…
I love driving the tesla, been a petrol head all me life, I'm a changed person now.
Driving a Tesla dosent make you a petrol head, your pretty much driving a oversized rc car 🤦🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
Pootis i test drove one... my god it’s fast! i love loud big motors but the tesla is mental in a straight , absolutely crazy fast!
@@TasimanaOG Who cares. it's boring af without a proper engine
AMG and Tesla are both all wheel drive... why compare to a HSV? Not fanboying I’m just confused as to why you would compare these cars and claim victory?
When you finally grow up, you will, without a doubt, realize the Tesla is By FAR the best vehicle! The motor noises were fun when I was a teen. But once you actually mature, that unneeded noise, smell and vibration is just stupid.
Actually, it really depends on where you live and in what conditions you use your car in. If you live in Germany and you drive 200kph daily for half an hour with your car, electric vehicles are more than just unsuited for that driving styl, they even overheated in a car test where they drove 250 kph (155mph) for 10 minutes and the Tesla started to reduce the speed to 180 kph and then to 120 kph although still giving it *full throttle* . So maybe in 10 year, when these issues of high speeds and a quickly discharging battery in different conditions are fixed, you might be right
Makes you feel a live and not some kind of passenger oe crash dumy like the tesla mate
"But once you mature", just go back to living your "matured" boring life and leave us car enthusiasts alone. We don't give two flying duck shits about your cancerous matured life, we'd rather rip through the canyons rev-matching our manual skylines thanks. Oh never heard of a skyline? It's this weird car with limitless mods that can make it run a quarter in almost half the time of your toaster. And that manual transmission thing, don't worry about it.
Btw I've driven a tesla, they're good dailies but absolute horseshit to drive.
Imeth Don lmao datsun
You are not a motoring enthusiast.
Tesla 0-100 in 2.7... More like 2.3 no ??
Well he didn't switch on any of the launch features, because he didn't know it had any.
David Jean 0-100kph is 62mph not 60 so it probably is 2.7 seconds.Also Australian magazines don't count roll-out and all of the other fluff calculations that Americans do when using timing equipment instead of a drag strip that's why our ETs always seem slower aswell.
This is a propaganda for the Australian car that is as crap as Pontiac firebird of late 80s that is how that car is for you to compare it to a Tesela are m6 are any Amg it's crazy for the Australian to think that car is so good 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
What a bad review. Not putting them head to head. Rediculous. 'Because it is sold'? Then get another one !!! This is stupid!
U guys have no idea how to do do proper test. U could have done a drag race and also a rolling start race and then a track race with time. This what most of the people wanna see. Hit like if anyone agrees.
click bite on tesla, dislike
Sport mode, you needed Ludicrous.
Can't drive the hsv for shit 12.8 is what times u get from a tuned ls1 with only 300kw
The HSV only did a 12.8? That's horrible. With all that power it should be low 12s atleast.
Shit tyres I guess?
HEKTIC458 Driver.
rwd manual? do you know how drag times work?
@@chrisdryden1400100 percent lol
TESLA
This would have been OK if you hadn't lost time to review the shitty HSV
One of each please.
Des Thureson exactly
Hsv commodore any day 😍🤤
Eh, I'll have the Tesla
Ever heard of this channel before, but this is excellent!
Gotta heat Tesla, has no sound, no manual transmission no nothing. HSV is amazing
So if Tesla would have added the noise for you guys, it would win?
All great cars, love the gts, be great to see them battle out on a circuit!
Mercedes and hsv needs to have unlimited gas then people will lease it.
Why would they even compare the HSV with the other two? 😏
Tesla and Mercedes is over priced crap, the commodore is way better and cheaper as well, australia has the most underrated cars in the world, i bet you a tuned ford falcon f6 would flog most cars
commodore is a piece of shit car for bogans and no life fucks
TH-cam Account your an idiot who knows nothing about cars.
Nah better build quality is faster too both of then are better than holden? By the way how's holden doing? Oh wait they don't exist anymore. Shame. Nah not really
Really good review and presenter. Well done wheels
now comes the electric car fanboys and say the tesla is better
Tesla p100d has modes champ, Ludicrous mode and then a further performance mode which I am unsure of the name but it asks you this awesome question basically 'Do you want to release more power' and you are required to choose "No, I want my mommy" or "Yes, Bring it on!" ... Also, why didn't you list Teslas 0-100 time of 2.5secs and the HSV is quicker than 4.8seconds are you kidding, as is the e63s! Leave the car reviews to the brits. They do it better than us Aussies.
lmao at all the tesla soyboys crying in the comments.
Thay are all fun and all money pits unfortunately.
E 63 all day babe
Maybe I am REALLY strange but I love the Tesla AND the HSV in different ways but the Mercedes Benz doesn't get me excited. Doesn't matter anyway as I can't afford them and HSVs were never sold in the country I live in.
Feeling a bit butt hurt after that whipping so you didn't put up the times for us to see LOL. After having driven the P100D myself a few times I would still choose it over the HSV. And that is coming from a HSV owner. And you missed all the fun without trying Ludicrous mode and showing all the tech built into the Tesla. Poor car review in my opinion.
Lol I have a P100D and I know for sure that the car will easily do 0-100kph (0-62mph) in the 2.7 you mentioned. That being said, you have to use launch control in Ludicrous plus and must be at least 80% charged. The difference between using launch control and not is big. With it on, my best was a 2.54 and my best without using launch control was a 2.88. I have a draggy
GTSR all the way
Wow, that HSV is significantly slower over the 1/4 than my mildly tuned 8 year old Falcon. Fucking awful.
It's about driving experience included performance (not just as fast as it can), handling, luxurious, etc. Tesla is good but I still heard many negative news about its quality especially when you pay so much amount of money. May be it will be better later.
Turbo props feels the same as with jet engine.. Lacking the proping sound, and fun to fly as jet engines were as stable as an electric motor with the same whining sound as an electric motor..
WTF?! Of course the Tesla has Launch Control which you first have to activate. And you have to activate Ludicrous Mode and warm the battery up!
if u drag race them they will be smoke by d E63s
Are you on crack? Everyone and their dog these days knows the Tesla acceleration smokes the shit out of the E63. If you are still too ignorant to believe me there's enough damn videos on the internet proving it. You been living under a rock? Get with the times, bro.
I hate petrol cars so ill take the tesla
What time is the tesla model s Dislike
congratulations Wheels Australia for not fully testing the Tesla and respecting that the car has been sold - well done!
farmed sheep
Yeah, I stopped watching after he said that.
same..
Looks like Tesla paid him for the video
Tesla has Ugly cheap interior
For me, Tesla over the dino cars!
And that Tesla did not have the Ludicrous upgrade (P100DL).
the tezla nooooooooooooo
it's tesla
Tesla the front is awful....
E63s all the way 🔥🔥🥵🥵🥵
E63 for me. Not even close
if you raced that tesla against the other cars in telsa's ludicrouis mode the mecrades and the other car would be screwed
Its gonna be a while for tesla to get up to the standards of what car enthusiasts like and actually be fun to drive. No new car maker can provide a fun car after a few years of experience, its gonna take a decade or two to refine a good driving experience.
Imeth Don new roadster performs like a Bugatti for 200k
I continue to be bemused that the GTSR is slower than my stock 2005 AMG E55. Both over 0 to 100 and 400m. Is the Auto much quicker? Because on paper the GTSR should be a lot quicker, same weight more Power and Torque. But then Holdens/HSV have always seemed to have high drive train losses in the real world.
You would be better off buying a regular SS commodore and spending half of the money you saved modifying it for 1000bhp and improving other parts of the car beyond what HSV did with the suspension and AP racing brakes.
Funny thing is an LSA crate engine cost 13k and a set of 6 piston AP racing brakes is 5.5k, that makes building your own GTSR cost lets say 65kAUD (40k for car, 25k for mods)
why be disappointed in a production car when people reliably get more for less money all the time?
Shit you could take another 25k and spend it on the LSA you just put in and it would still cost over 50k less than buying a GTSR.
Did you even test these cars on the Racetrack? The Tesla will have no chance in the corners. The E 63 , the new model, handles better than a C 63. It feels so light and agile. Thr E 63 is zhe one to pick.
Luxury ? 10/10
Power? 10/10
Sporty? 10/10
You could take your family for a 1000km ride to a Racetrack, and after that park the Car in fron of a ***** Hotel.
thats mercedes for you
ICEMANZIDANE The model S was literally not designed to be a true performance car. It doesn't have the cooling it needs, there wasn't really a focus on making it as light as possible, and they didn't design it for high top end speed. However, that is because of their gearing set up not because electric cars lack an ability to attain high top speeds. Lucid for example was able to hit well over 200 mph with the air, and of course you have cars like the concept one and EP9. In any case, I think people forget just how young Tesla really is.
I love Tesla, they are one of my favorite companies. But they haven't put a real focus on making high-performance vehicles yet, at least not in the conventional sense. And that is almost entirely because they are still a very young company, and the model S was literally their first mass production car. Give it time, and I have absolutely no doubt that they will be mixing it up with Mercedes, BMW, and the others. And there are some new comers that already have their sights on the Germans.
Personally, I am most excited for the Lucid Air to be honest. And I really want to see what Tesla does with the model S replacement in a few years. Especially since they bought on the guy who designed the interior of the Porsche mission E, as well as the man responsible for Volvos current interiors.
ICEMANZIDANE Merc can't take the stress off long roadtrips like Tesla Autopilot, no Bioweapon defense mode for pollen and out door smells, less cargo space than the Tesla.
Also the merc can't summon itself out of a puddle.
Mercedes' Distronic+ takes a lot of stress from long roadtrips (although it isn't as smooth as the Autopilot).
No Bioweapon defense is a point for Tesla (but who else has this feature?!).
But less cargo space?? Just take the E63s wagon and you have a LOT of cargo space.
And why shouldn't the merc summon itself out of a puddle??
SgtSuperGollum I have driven distronic plus with a bottle wedged in the steering wheel to stop it bugging me and it is at least somewhat useful but totally lame compared to Tesla Autopilot. The 2017 Mercedes feels like a 1978 Fairlane compared to my Tesla. Mercedes should have embraced this Technology while they had a partnership with Tesla. Now they are 5 years behind and their vehicles make weird noises and constant vibration which only ceases when the engine annoyingly turns off and on at the traffic lights
thumb down because you didn't show tesla times and didn't explain why...
I will take the E63 AMG any day... The tesla worthy? if you drive sporty after 200km you can push the car because the battery is dead...
Model S P100D has 3 motors not 2. One in front and 2 in back.
That's one hell of a slow HSV.....:/
Must have shit tyres is all I can think - my Falcon is producing 50kw less than this and it'll do the quarter in 12.5 on Pilot Sport 4's without any drama.
nhfalcon Driver.
Matthew Sharpe ETs mean nothing, the real indicator is trap speed.
HSV AND E63 🤤
How can use not love the hsv now that’s real power
Do watch sometimes your own videos?...Tesla 0-60...?
Tesla 50 roll will get smoked by those 2
Its a ls9 in the gtsr not ls3
It’s not an ls9,that’s in the w1, it’s an lsa.
why bother..