Mumen Rider is the heart and soul of one punch man, also I feel like he is sort of a metaphorical unsung hero for all those average joe's that go out into society and put themselves in danger or just help people. you know firemen, Rescue Workers, Volunteers, Police or just some random that puts their own life at risk to save someone else.
Yup, its kinda saying that the real heroes are those who work to save others despite being as frail as everyone else. Pretty cool how the author chose to spotlight a normal guy.
I was honestly thinking he was gonna end up being like one punch man. Think about it, average dude with not much special about him. But he's a true hero who doesn't look for fame. He just wants to help people. Just like Saitama, he just kept going despite getting his ass kicked. They're oddly very similar.
"Dead pool will only be remembered for being Rated R" Yup, yup, yup, on point. Much as I loved when the guy hit the highway sign and turned into a meatball, or the other guy gets shot and he brain fall out, the only real credit to this film I can give is that its success could mean the disintegration of the stigma that R ratings make no money.
That’s a really good point. The R-rating is usually one of the first things people praise about Deadpool, even though it says nothing about the quality of the film itself.
Hydra weren't Nazis. They used and were planning to betray the Nazis. The Nazis in the movie also mentioned how little Hydra had provided towards the war effort. It'd be like calling the Japanese or Italians Nazis.
Michael Lampa You just know some NPC thinks the Italians and Imperial Japanese were literally Hitler. There’s even a TV tropes page called a Nazi by another name.
@@Sorakeyblademaster37 Both the Italians and Japanese were fascistic groups. Hell, the Italians invented fascism (or, well, took a modernist view of Roman Imperialism). Nazi's had the Aryan race, Mussolini had the Romans, and the Japanese had... well the Japanese. All believed that a strong nationalist government was best, where the undesirables (Jews, Romas, Blacks, Chinese, the French) were repressed and forced to work for their betters. All three had similar purges, albeit the scale was different. Most of the Italian purges were handled by the Blackshirts against other Italians (that I'm aware of), Hitler had the Jews and gays, Japan was viciously brutal with the Koreans and the Chinese. All three were adamant in recreating their "ideal" historic Empires and uniting their people. Italy had Imperial Rome, Germany had the Holy Roman Empire, Japan did what it does every night and try to take over the World (expand throughout Asia)! So all the nations espoused a similar rhetoric, believed in an Imperial power, and held their own race as being superior to others while committing atrocities against their lesser races. Nazis and Hitler are a culture touchstone, but that's all they are. I'm not advocating for Japan or Italy as being "literally Hitler," rather stating that Nazi Germany wasn't all that special. Hell, one of the worst offenses Japan is known for (Rape of Nanking) was perpetrated by most the main Western powers in Peking (Boxer Rebellion) less than 40 years prior. I remember reading in correspondence the raping done by Western armies appalled a Japanese general who found it deplorable. How much of that is true I don't know; every side declared the rest as being the primary offenders during occupation.
@@storm___ In all seriousness, I'm glad they didn't win. As much as we are under attack right now, we aren't seeing people gassed or lined up and shot, yet. Democratism, Republicanism, Capitalism, whatever-ism-you-want-to-call-today is pretty damn good and worth saving if we can. There's problems and they need to be solved, but I think it'd be better than working for some glorious leader whom talking against would lead to jail time or death. I mean, that's literally what the SJWs want right now and if their communism fails, well we'll be having an Islamic based/redpilled government soon enough.
You sold me when you said you liked hero academia. "You like what I like so now I like you. but if you ever not like what I like then I will hate you and your opinion will be wrong." That's how fandom's work right? What you say is the word of god until I disagree with you. Keep up the good work man.
Too bad hero academia is a pretty bare-bones Shonen anime with a cookie cutter protagonist who wants to be the next best ninja president, pokemon master. In a world filled with people gunning for the top position. Only unlike hunter x hunter and one piece. Hero academia's world is shallow and bland.
+Letters & Numbers Shonen...it's not Seinen. Lower your expectations. Just look at the pretty pictures and remember what Miyazaki said, "[The fans] ruined anime." That's you & me, buddy. Aside: Never trust anyone who squints more than you do.
A lot of adaptations forget that Bruce Wayne is literally insane. He does try and help Gotham through his philanthropy, but he's obsessed with just beating the shit out of the criminals that inhabit the city as a means to live out his revenge fantasies against Joe Chill, the guy who murdered his parents. I mean way worse stuff has happened to other heroes than Bruce Wayne, honestly, but he deals with it far worse (or better, depending on your perspective).
Which is why Joker and batman are iconic. Joker is constantly trying to get batman to kill him, which would throw him over the edge in batmans mind of him being seperate from the "criminals" that killed his parents, despite batman doing exactly same things. Beating the shit out of people to fix some internal insecurity about the death of his parents. He is absolutely insane and reckless.
Still, I can least can get behind his motives, when compared to government and commissioner Gordon, who can't help a fucking vigilante whose doing everything in his power to help you people but they can't even help him by reducing his freaks of enemies at least.
I love one punch man so much. The final reveal at the end that Saitama wasn’t even trying when fighting Boros was brilliant and basically brought the story full circle.
Billy La Bufanda That doesn't matter, any man would realistically do 10x better and hit far harder then he did, I've seen multiple Rekt thread webms with random fucking betas like that dude beat the shit out of someone, they intentionally made him be a complete shitty, sluggish, and overall retarded beta when it comes to how to *_hit someone_* just to show how much "grl power :DDD" Black Widow has. It's fucking stupid. I mean Jesus she doesn't even look while one of the enemy guys just STANDS THERE as she pepper sprays him, it's one thing if she's being badass just because she's badass, but the fact they made sure to show how bad the "Stupid booy" is and 'how good da womyns can do things that men do' is annoying, I (and probably E;R) would have no issue with her kicking some ass if it weren't for the fact they not only took some scenes AFTER the fight to show off how "powarful" of a woman she is like that pepper spray bs and also to show off how 'le stupid chubby boy' is doing something a strong WOMAN did 10x better. It's like how no one complains if Iron man blasts some shit, but literally every time Black Widow kicks some ass they have to shove it down our throats that "See da womyns can do cool tinges too! And waaaay better den the mens can!" every time she takes down anything or does something important ironically makes people (or atleast me) hate her more for her primary trait being "female" even though they're trying to show how gud tha females is
in fairness to bruce wayne, his father spend all his time and money trying to lift up gotham but for all his efforts he and his wife still got gunned down. to bruce wayne the only way to fix gotham was to get rid of the crime first.
Also, in most best batman stories, he's actually treated like an insane sociopath He use fear and terror to keep small time criminals in check, he even fucking dress like a godamn bat It's not for no-reasons that joker give him the old "you and I aren't that different" shtick, it's because they're both fucking insane sociopaths who put on a fucking costume to terrorize peoples
@@Rise65487 the difference between Joker and Batman is that while it's true that Batman terrorizes criminals he (in better adaptations, forget about Snyder) also gives hope to the average gothamite of a better way of life (The Dark Knight Returns explores this, but overall by showing them a moral standard to look up to he changes Gotham's apathy to a desire of improving their conditions, which is one of the main reasons he refuses to kill and why he covered up the Two Face ordeal in Nolan's TDK, just compare the Gotham in Batman Begins to the Gotham in TDR) while Joker truly only does it to satisfy his own sadistic tendencies, somethig that Bruce used to do in his earlier year but has since moved from it and set his sights of becoming not just a symbol of fear but of hope of a better way that Gotham so desperatly needs
@@vanillabatcave5677 yes, i agree, but it still dosn't change that by social-standards, he's batshit (pun-intended) insane. having clever, well-intended, and rational justifications to back-up something irrational dosn't make it sane. he's still very-much a man that dress-up as a bat, to beat-up criminals at night. also Joker dosn't only commit atrocities to satisfy his sadistic-tendencies, he also does it to prove a point. in most of his best material, he's usually pulling shit to force Batman to either make a really bad compromise, or straight-up throw away his own codes and values. Joker's entire game relationship with Batman, is forcing him to admit to himself and the rest of the world that he's insane as anyone-else. anyway, you've mentioned a lot the "Dark-Knight" movie-saga from Christopher Nolan, which is fine, they're pretty good movies and good re-adaptations of Batman stories. But i heavily recommend you to read the comics if you want to have more knowledge about Batman and it's characters.
@@Rise65487 well can't deny that gotta be *nuts* (heh) to dress up as a bat and beat people up, his methods as however are not limited to Batman as we both agree, but I would say that Joker does commit atrocities to satisfy himself, by messing with Batman usually as you said, the point is that the dude gets off on the dynamic and that's why he does the things that he does, which already puts him far from being the same as Batman. And yeah while I do like Nolan's Batman I have also read the comics (when I say The Dark Knight Returns I refer to Miller's comic if that wasn't clear) and overall I'd say that I have a decent picture of who he is, what he does, and how he affects Gotham
Deadpool's comic origins are much, much better. The cancer is the same, but he doesn't get depressed and shit. He just enters into the Weapon X program, ends up composed entirely of cancer cells(hence the ugly), ends up in an insane asylum where he meets his girlfriend, who eventually dies and comes back as a superhero herself, and eventually deadpool dies and falls in love with the personification of death, resulting in Thanos, who also loves Death, cursing him with life.
@@GreatSmithanon No; the 90s were not "good old days"; just ask any comic book fan. They were the age of terrible comic books and 90s Anti-Heroes. The only reason Deadpool survived that era is that, after Rob Liefeld stopped writing him and he ended up in the hands of other writers, he got rewritten as the wisecracking fourth-wall-breaking parody of 90s Anti-Heroes that we know him to be today. Here's what Stan Lee had to say to two writers (including Rob Liefeld: the guy famous for being unable to draw feet) at Marvel Comics in the 90s after seeing first-hand just how bad their comic books were: "You guys have ruined us. We're giving up on comics and switching to showbiz." He meant that last part as a joke, but he accurately predicted the future of Marvel.
Damn dude, have you ever considered making videos on the fundamentals of storytelling, character development, and world building? Cause it sounds like you know a fairly good amount about what makes a story interesting, and I'd watch the hell out of that kind of content, especially with your sense of humor.
@Nicholas Leclerc E;R is referencing the classic tsundere "baka" response to someone saying they love him, except this is technically not the tsundere "baka" but a dandere attempting a tsundere "baka", but that's not important.
I will always love how much Mumen Rider is hyped up by the crowd only to get absolutely rekt. And the best part is that same scene basically plays out again against the Deep Sea King but instead of being played for laughs it is instead a super somber scene that underscores how much of a true hero he (and Saitama) is.
Deadpool's worst sin would be that DP isn't a unique character in the film, like he somewhat is in the comics. Of course I'm not talking about his powers, but personality. In the film, almost _everybody_ is as quirky, snarky and sarcastic as him. Ironically, this made Colossus - a supporting character - the only exceptional one.
This is a really common problem in Marvel movies in general though. There's SO MUCH FUCKING SNARK! Even characters who are SUPPOSED to be really snarky (like Tony Stark) don't stick out because nearly every other character is doing the same thing.
It's funny how spider man basically started the origin story thing. Then made a sequel that didn't need to rely on an origin story and actually (in my opinion) did a better job. Guess marvel forgot that with their sequels.
Honestly Spider-Man in comics lets the death of uncle ben, gwen and George Stacy and he takes on too much responsibility (Aldo other charcaters like ned and harry,)
Well, I mean, for the first part of Spider-Man 1, Uncle Ben's death actually serves a purpose to the plot: It makes Parker go after his murderer, and after killing him, decides to become an actual super-hero... Then it never gets brought back again and then Spider-Man 3 un-does the entire shit... That's why Spider-Man 2 is the best one.
@@vintheguy Lets the death? What are you trying to say here? That he lets them die? Because that's not true. That he lets their deaths weigh on him too much and takes on responsibility when he shouldn't? True. But also a very human reaction, he knew he could've helped but wasn't good enough and blames himself, a very human response to the situation. Please let me know which one you mean. Because I think you mean the second one, but I can't be sure because of the phrasing and sentence structure. Which in your statement conflict and present two different points. You also missed a part of the sentence if you mean the second one, which circles back around to lack of proper sentence structure. Please answer my question! (I know this may seem a little harsh, but things like this really get on my nerves. So, I apologise if this comes of as rude, not going to aplologise for the nitpicking though, I will nitpick to my heart's content.)
I Find myself agreeing whole-heartedly with your perspective on basically everything. I would love to chat with you about Marvel though, Specifically Civil War because mayybbbee I disagree with you there. Your method of analysis is something I really want to try and work on myself. Honestly impressed. Let me know if you have any spare time, I have Skype, Discord, Teamspeak etc. honestly find your videos very entertaining :) Instant sub.
I agree with you for the most part but 7:57 many iterations of Batman, Batman does use his wealth to help Gotham. Especially in the Arkham games. Maybe it's different in the movies and that's what you're referring to, otherwise, Wayne Corp often aids in Gotham's infrastructure, power and other stuff to support the city.
There is a difference between subversion and inversion. Specifically talking about sexuality. Subversion such as one punch is an anomaly within the greater universe, greater genre and physical reality. But the public is 'in' on it as an anomaly. Inversion seen in most Western movies is can be a anomaly or a commonality within the greater universe, it is typically common within the greater genre but an anomaly within the physical world. Most of the public wants this escapism and don't _Feel_ it is an as anomaly Strong women are an inversion, they are a trope that goes so far back (1945 and beyond) that the public has come to expect them as necessarily to reinforce their illusion. Imagine if there wasn't a strong female in a super hero movie? amygdala snap, TRIGGERED.
It's amazing how much the amygdala determines human behaviors, I highly recommend reading the series of articles "touching the raw amygdala" on AnonymousConservative, it's the most informative thing I've ever read despite being so short (only a couple of blog posts). Take a look at the wikipedia page for "amygdala hijack" to get you interested
Mendel 8 months late, but fun fact. You know what is the first definite and surviving book about strong women? It's "The Book of the City of Ladies" by Christine de Pizan, a noblewomen and a part of the royal court of Burgundian throne, written in 1405. That book is a several hundred pages long assortment of biographies of famous women from history, which means that there was plenty of those by the time. More than a half of European languages had not been written down by that time, but we already had books about strong women.
@Miau_Frito Yeah great article. Really recommend it. @@dragonballfan8 1 year late here (yeah I watched this again and saw my comment) That is pretty cool. I have the feeling at the strong women trope is a device most typically used to poke men into being more dominate. Like a Shit Test. That famous French Revolution painting is an example. If some women can fight bare breasted with courage then surely you can too. This mainly seems to be a European thing, other ethnic groups seem to have different outlooks. The current Hollywood 'strong women' trope seems to behave to humiliate men, which seemingly is done in bad faith rather then to make men take dominance. In the example you gave it seems to be about women taking pride in their sex. Which sounds great.
@@mendel7575 Mendel 5 month's late but i don't think humiliation of men in those movies is in bad faith, at least not entirely. It has more to do with the fact that its very hard to portray women as strong when they're surrounded by competent men. Simply by the fact that competent men will steal the spotlight and look stronger due to the fact that our specie is sexually dimorphic, with men having all the strength, physical or otherwise. So in order to make a female character look strong you have to either isolate her from the male competition or make the competition incompetent, be that due to stupidity, evilness or plot. You can try writing her as a man, but it will always look weird and incongruent. This is what happens in real life as well. We isolate female athletes for this reason precisely, female athletes cease to exist if they put into competition with men. Quality strong female characters are those who're in fact "strong FOR a woman" and not just "strong woman" period. By opting out of competing with men you can sidestep the need to humiliate men to portray a strong woman.
As far as I know Bruce does in fact use his fortune to help Gotham, but since it's not enough he dresses up as a Bat vigilante to instill fear into the criminals and work out some major issues as far as I can tell
Star Wars, at least in the first 6 films, handled superhero characters and setting right. The Jedi are the heroes of the story, capable of telepathy, mind control, strength, exceptional piloting skills, and wielding weapons that can kill almost anything. Does that mean that the rest of the galaxy just sits on their ass and does nothing until the Jedi arrive? Nope. They make their own armies, make large fleets of warships, and have their own ideas on how to take down the Jedi. Not to mention the many Bounty Hunters and trained killers who specialize in Jedi-hunting. The Confederacy creates General Grievous and his Magnaguards, training Grievous in Jedi saber combat and arming Magnaguards with electric staffs that can block lightsabers. They managed to kill enough Jedi that Grievous became the big threat after Count Dooku died. The Republic trains Clones to be able to handle Jedi and to keep up with them, and they even have an emergency kill switch that can be used to take down the Jedi with the Clones, which they do in Order 66 after the Jedi tried to sack the Chancellor. The Empire was so successful in killing Jedi that by the time of the Original Movies, there were barely any Jedi left. Heck, even Episode VII got in on the action and created riot sticks that could counter lightsabers.
Phreaker1997 Bitch, they consider Batman a superhero. When some dude with money and ninja gadgets can be considered a superhero, practically everyone can be one.
There was this brilliant fan made Deadpool short made awhile back. It should still be on TH-cam. The humour was spot on there. They even had Deadpool talking to the two voices in his head that show up as cardboard cut outs. A merc jumps out to attack him and Deadpool grabs one of the cut outs to use as a shield. It was a shame that the Deadpool movie failed to utilise the fourth wall in such a manner.
The concept of gods dressing up like clowns and mostly punching random criminals and/or civilians while sticking to some gimmick is so asinine that most authors don't even attempt to do actual world building. And, judging by the backlash to the new shitty-gritty superhero movies, many fans seem to detest the idea. I doubt it very much that Deadpool authors really tried to deconstruct superhero genre the way One Punch Man authors did. It's standard comic pulp by design, just with nature-identical flavorings of subversion and reflection.
With the movie, I suppose that's true. In the comics the comic creators of Deadpool were about to get cancelled and.. Out birthed a 'LOL idc' character thingie yeah
21:56 here's the translation :"specialy when they are Swedish" It's Arabic but it's written in reverse and it's not that grammaticaly right so I corrected it....
I disagree with the "origin stories are cancer" for Deadpool for the same reason it works in Iron-man. The movie-makers just made the mistake of not having Wade make a huge change to become the turned up to eleven-Deadpool.
Gonna be the "Actually guy" so you can leave the thumbs down now. Bruce Wayne came back after training and pretty much exterminated the mob and corruption to a reasonable level within 2 years, that's why outside of the early span of his career (in comics) it's the rogues gallery he fights. Beyond that, Wayne enterprises effectively employs 60% of the city on its own, not to mention the various work programs he set up, educational programs he sponsors, and he wrestled control of the banks out of the hands of the Juden and Wayne Financial is pretty much the tits. All this while making himself and his investors a fucking fortune (Estimated in the hundreds of billions for his own personal wealth), plowing super models as well as whores in capes/leather that call themselves heroes and villains, and punching his way through the kind of freaks that other superheroes wished they could pump out. Fuck ya, Batman. Also, on the freak in a cape topic, the best Batman stories are the ones where the entire population are deathly afraid of the fucking Bat-demon ninja thing that may or may not be a vampire and lives in the shadows, and Batman's stance on that is 'Fucking good, be afraid, you twats. Maybe you'll start doing shit right on your own.'
Completely agree, but remember he said he doesn't read the comics so he's probably basing this assumption on the movies which never do a good job of portraying half the cool shit you mention. After all, they're too busy fellating his origin story. As much as BvS was a very flawed film, and even if you don't agree with Batman killing people, at the end of the day that incarnation of Batman was the best film version in terms of how the public 'should' treat a good Batman.
How well does any of that work, though? Because if he really did all that, there is no way it would still be such a dirty, crime-ridden shithole, and if they do still make it like that, it's just to serve the story and allow Batman to keep being Batman. Is there a storyline where he quits because he's not needed anymore?
@@someguywhocanfly In a lot of iterations there's something called perspective. Batman isn't hanging around in the nice parts of Gotham he cleaned up. He's in the slums that need his attention. The better Batman stories show the better halves of Gotham through Bruce and the worst half through Batman. And even the focus is mostly on the rogue's gallery because they're the bigger threat. There's always going to be crime and bad parts of cities and that's why Batman never stopped being Batman. It's also why some of the best Batman stories tend to toy around with the idea of whether Batman has done enough for Gotham and has become part of the problem. Or whether Bruce should leave Batman behind because he's already done everything he could as Batman and anything further is to his own personal detriment and sacrifice. Thats my biggest complaint with shitty Batman stories is because a lot of them portray Batman as dark and gritty but forget it's just as important to portray the positive aspects. The best Batman stories out there are the ones that balance both the good work Bruce has done and the darker complex sides of being a superhero. It's why Batman has endured so long, there's so many stories and possibilities to tell because his origins aside from dead parents are largely ambiguous. Some versions have him training with various masters of different martial arts and crafts, the Nolan trilogy made him a League of Shadows member, some have him self taught, and some simply don't ever explore it at all.
This made me realize why I liked Ghost in the Shell (the series) so much: world building! Here too, you can see the characters living their life in the IN their world.
But in the dark knight trilogy we know he did stuff to improve Gotham. For example, he heavily funded and constructed orphanages, and not to mention his attempt to provide the city with cheaper, more efficient power
While I'm not necessarily in agreement on all your points, I find great pleasure in watching your videos because of the thought-out argumentation, humorous presentation, and sardonic attitude. Keep up the good work!
I always felt something was wrong with Deadpool, it was good, but far less than I hoped it would be - but I was never able to pinpoint why that is. You actually put into words what I felt, subscribed because of that.
Jeez man. I don't agree with every single thing you say, but these video's are incredibly entertaining and I love how you don't seem to "filter" yourself for any sort of audience. Just saying exactly what you want to say, even if it might piss off some folk, even the ones that would normally agree with you on other points. No taking sides, just your own thang, Keep up the cool work. I'll be watchin' you from now on.
@@littlemoth4956 I am not in the mood to get into an argument, but here we go,the plotline is to repetetive, same with the jokes, the characters don't develop too much and sometimes the manga and webcomic Focus on boring characters that no one really cares about. Some arcs are just a chore to get through, example; the Speed of sound and flashy step flashback arc, was a chore to get thought.
Except he does filter what he says, it just so happens to be the filter that makes him say what he thinks will upset people the most. Making your content upset a certain kind of person is still allowing that person to control what you're saying.
"spider man is boring without uncle ben dying" You need to watch the animated. Ben is a throw-away line in a 2-3 episodes in the middle of the first season and barelly ever come back.
Yes you are correct my friend and I like e,r but of what he says about Spiderman is so wrong and I don't get it it makes sound like he doesn't understand the character
@User Alright I'll spell it, it's "SpiderMan the animated series". The one that isn't within the "most of them" and as far as I'm concerned, the only good one too.
This is why I like the Daredevil Netflix Show, Daredevil especially in S1 is looking out for the little guy and dealing with mostly street level crime.
Not done watching the video but I had to pause and laugh. After you started describing Tigger and Bunny I was laughing my ass off because that sounds amazing and now I’m gonna go watch that shit. It sounds like one of the best things ever.
E;R Sweet. Okay, so, I'm probably forgetting a few, but whatever: 1. Is there any Western capestuff you actually like? I know you mentioned liking OPM and Tiger & Bunny and shit, but those are both animes, so- 2. Do you actually think prostitutes ("HOORS") might as well be just as bad as psychopaths? 3. Is it possible to have an instance of a girl character beating up or otherwise getting the better of a boy character without it being fakey girl powery stuff? 4. What are the parameters for having a female character on any kind of team without them being "Token Ass", instead being "Justifiably There"? 5. What do you wish you saw more of in capestuff? I'm probably forgetting shit, but, whatever.
1. Iron Man 1. Nolan’s The Dark Knight. Steelheart, novel by Brandon Sanderson, was alright. Dr. Strange surpassed expectations (escaped many superhero trappings with its sorcery, though). I’m having a helluva time coming up with more here. I’d be hard-pressed for Eastern superhero-esque stuff, too, as I named the big three already. 2. Pfft. No. Psychopaths can be productive. ;] 3. Tatsumaki, the esper chick I showed in this video, is a good example. She has an actual ability that supersedes her physical limitations, so her throwing Genos into rubble is funny and makes sense. 4. Thing is, we unconsciously understand men dominate physical and intellectual fields by an _absurd_ margin. You can consciously disagree, but this is just the reality of consensus. So, to put a female character in a position _requiring_ ridiculous physical or intellectual prowess, but with as little cognitive dissonance as possible… you’ll need to do it very cleverly. Black Widow-type characters don’t care for clever. They turn our instincts on their head and go as big, dumb, and loud as they can, and all in a skintight suit for guys to gawk at. Now, I like eye-candy-a lot-but when it’s effortlessly breaking a dozen trained male fighters, my boner is kill, too. To justify a girl on a superhero team, she’s going to have to be more than just human. I can’t see a better way. Negasonic Teen Warhead in DP was alright, but Angel and DP’s gf’s ball-crunchers were weak because they’d never, ever get a knee to the cunt. Cheap shots all around. 5. I like how The Dark Knight handled it. You’ve got this city, Gotham, embroiled in crime and corruption, and this weirdo dressed like a bat’s almost making it all worse, so you’ve got the district attorney, Harvey Dent, doing clean-up. He’s such a cool guy, he even steals Bruce’s girlfriend. Then a maniacal mastermind shows up, not for city-wide domination, but just to fuck with Bats personally, which drives a huge wedge between Gotham and Batman. It’s like the city’s more than just a set-piece with more people than just Bruce living in it. That’s what I want. Cause and effect. Because if superheroes showed up tomorrow, you can bet your bottom dollar the media would have cameras so far up their asses, we’d know what they’d had for breakfast. I’m not saying create a bureaucratic red-tape drama-fest like BvS, but some push-and-pull is good. Spiderman-particularly Raimi’s films-incorporate this with Peter’s photo-op job, illustrating a public demand for Spiderman. It’s stuff like that that impresses me a lot. I’d also like for the citizenry to not be paralyzed every time a monster/supervillain shows up. This has happened too many times not to have at least one or two precautionary measures in place. But at the end of the day, a commenter did mention-superheroes were originally for kids, and yes, many superhero stories tend toward childlike sensibilities. Is it really worth reforming superheroes enough to make them more enjoyable for _me?_ Maybe not. Long comment is long. But them’s my thoughts.
You'll probably never see this, but Worm by Wildbow sounds like exactly the hero/villain story you need to satisfy both your subversion desire, and your opposition to overpowered costumed twats only using their god abilities to beat up purse snatchers. No idea if anyone else mentioned this, but it's pretty dank.
I would also add that Halo did this right as well. The Spartans are the superhero types, carrying out missions nobody can do, wearing power armor that costs as much as a battlecruiser, doing crazy stunts that blow up entire warships and ring-worlds and decimate enemy forces. The reaction to a Covenant tank group for a UNSC marine would be to run the fuck away and find some heavy weapons. Spartans? They take a pea-shooter, shoot the gunner in the tank, then either punch the tank to death or kill the driver and hijack it. But does it mean that the Covenant are just sitting on their ass doing little to counter this threat? Fuck no. As the Spartans progress, the Covenant send tougher and tougher enemies until the enemies the Spartans fight outclass them in everything: strength, armor, and firepower, and the Spartans in question have to use their heads to get out of this mess. But the Covenant actually do pick up the slack in Spartan-killing to the point where they got the Spartans down to a few left by the time the first Halo game pops by. Master Chief, the player character, is one of the few Spartans left.
The lore, not necessarily the games, goes out of its way to explain the consequence/downside of being a badass SPARTAN II. They are kidnapped by the government at young ages and trained Navy Seal-style for the rest of their lives while as partaking in fatal experiments that make them superhuman. In the end they are impossibly strong, fast, and intelligent; however, they emotionally mute and psychologically damaged. All they know is KILL. This makes less powerful soldiers like the ODSTs, who DID work and train to become badasses, despise the SPARTAN program. It also makes the new SPARTAN IVs look like pussies because although they went though intense training and super serums, they VLOUNTEERED to become soldiers; they weren't indoctrinated. Even though they "earned" their super-human abilities, they did not go through the cruel and inhuman trials that the older SPARTANS did.
Scotty Peres That, and the fact that Spartan-IVs don't perform the kind of crazy stunts that Spartan-IIs do, nor are they as much an icon as the Spartan IIs. I was quite surprised Del Rio didn't get a firing squad from the military for abandoning Master Chief. The military in the games practically worshiped the ground the Master Chief walked on. Even in the first game he seemed like a god amongst men.
Even in parody, I fucking cried at the post-Sea King scene. That scene kills me everytime. The only sacrifice that Saitama can ever make is a social sacrifice. He let's the people keep believing in the system that (generally does but this time) doesn't work, because he wants people to have a meaning. Something he now craves. It's sad in the same since that the sacrifice of Jesus Christ is sad, the perfect and powerful person, who in reality has never done anything wrong, taking the fall for no other reason than to lift others up.
To those who liked the Jesus statement, I am no longer Christian and rescind the statement on him being anything more than a jew who pissed off the romans and other jews. EDIT: eh, this was a cringe thing to say. I'm still an atheist, but the mythology of the Christ figure does inspire many people, even if it no longer holds any weight for me personally.
@@fabulous_finn7810 Don't confuse mythology and history; I'm an atheist, and I read your statement as being about the mythology of it, not the reality that he was probably just another of the same mold as Bernie Sanders.
To be fair, Happy Hogan is not a "Male s.h.i.e.l.d agent", he's Tony's normal ass bodyguard. Widow was experimented on (at least in the comic) the and trained to be a near perfect killer. The double fight scene was supposed to be a joke.
You're right on almost all of your points except for the ones regarding the superhero genre. As far as the Marvel capeshit, you're definitely on-point but the issue is that it's Marvel capeshit so it's nowhere near representative of the genre as far as the original source material goes. Why? Because Marvel's currently pozzed to fuck and back and their Hollywood studio isn't actually trying to make good superheroe movies. Their goal is to make a product that hit all the points that the Big Bang Theory did but was a little bit better so it could skirt by in the general mass of the 'nerd' audience so as to not spark schisms in the communities. The closest they ever got to actually good superhero 'stuff' is, as you said, Iron Man 1, or maybe the first two Captain Americas, at least for the movies. The best they've done is the Daredevil Netflix series, which is actually fucking excellent IMO as a comicbook-reader. Many of the problems you have with Deadpool aren't present in the comics, though they do have their own issues. The game is actually a much better representation of the character. The character is actually quite tragic but is always used for slapstick or pitch-black comedy. He's a much different character in the comics then he is in the movie, where it's just his most ephemeral elements cut to fit with 'that prick from Van Wilder' and normie (read: garbage) sensibilities. All that said, I think you're a bit too harsh on the rest of the movie, contextually. Deadpool himself is bad, I agree, but the movie around them is very much a product of the realities of Hollywood. The thing was filmed on a shoestring budget, relatively, and that basically accounts for why so much of the movie takes place in the same shitty city with a bunch of g-list actors. It's kind of awesome that they even managed to have an authentic Colossus and the X-Men cannon even in the movie. And that's one more thing as well - it's not the MCU cannon, it's the X-Men cannon, where the X-Men and the Brotherhood of Mutants are the only real cape-organizations in the world and they're all feared and hated. Why? Bunches of reasons, but I can't go into them as this is already Trump's Wall of Text as is. Lastly, and this point kinda ties back into my first quibble, the superheroes in the actual comics that these movies are based on are quite different. I've read below why you liked The Dark Knight and I feel I should point out that Batman's comic setting is an excellent example because good Batman stories or runs are like The Dark Knight but turned up to 11 in the hands of a competent writer. Gotham is more than just a setting, it itself is a character in many of the good Batman comics because it's so much different than other places in the continuity: the majority of cops that are corrupt are totally unaware of other corrupt cops because there's so many crimelords that no one knows who's on who's payroll, the average citizen takes even children's toys and potted plants as potential muggers after all the shit the likes of Poison Ivy and The Toyman, at least two different international terrorists will show up and start operations in the city with the express purpose of fucking with the Batman at any given time every few years, Wayne Enterprises is one of the only forces holding the city together because it privately funds half the homeless shelters and donates to the municipal agencies, the list goes on. Now, there's obviously the caveat of 'competent writers' but it's still comics - multiplicity and time are luxuries they can afford. A bad run of Superman or The Flash aren't particularly damaging to the continuity on the whole because another writer can always come along and re-write the story years later or just retcon it the run after. In that regard, it reinforces, to me at least, the idea of just how much cancer Marvel Studios is, because comics are a modern-day mythology now and of all the stories to pick from and all the writers to get on the projects, these shitbags decided on Civil War and Joss Whedon.
Yeah, the teamup comics are often either epic (Infinity Crisis, World War Hulk, the better Ultron stories, etc.) or a dumpster fire (the other Ultron stories, X-Men vs Avengers, Civil War, etc.). I think you may be misusing the term 'Worf Effect' as it's not a good thing but I get what you're going for. Thor and Hulk are hilariously underpowered in the MCU compared to even their lighter comic book adaptations, but my point still remains - good or bad, it's all part of the mythology and it can always be re-interpreted or made light of later. With the movies, they have to make everything a homerun or it'll always be a sore point that sours the rest of the universe and Marvel has been fucking the goat on that one (Iron Man 3, Civil War, Luke Cage, and Iron Fist all spring to mind.)
8:08 that's one thing about batman adaptations that really piss me off. They never (or rarely) touch on the contributions Bruce Wayne has made on fixing Gotham's infrastructure and funding of emergency services. A lot of the cells used to contain batman's super powered rogues were bought designed and paid for by Bruce Wayne's company. Traditionally he does a helluva lot to make Gotham a better place.
Well, the Batman persona is used exactly because Bruce Wayne can't do everything through the power of law exactly because of the corruption of it so he hides his identity and go hunt the villains that the government won't do anything about . Ironman is way stupider cause he's not after the people who corruption is hiding, he's just beating random villains, therefore *he* should just use his money and influence to fight crime from behind the scenes
This is one of the best videos you've made. Thoroughly enjoyed It, excellent points. You've summarised a lot of the problems I have with superhero live actions in one 30 minute video. Good job, dude.
You truly are a master video editor, an inspiration to us all. Yes, I only noticed the Hillary Clinton thing at the 'Get out of jail free' remark now. It's still genius and deserves praise. All hail!
24:14 >Male SHIED agent vs. one security guard More like, >Male Bodyguard vs One Security Guard I may not had liked Iron Man 2, but I remembered that guy. I also remembered he's a joke; since he's guarding a guy that can build mechsuits and fly around in them. His entire existence is a joke. Other than that, fuckin spot-on.
I know you don't know a lot of the comics (and probably dont care) but it is stated in the comics and shown multiple times that Bruce Wayne does use his fortune to help lower communities, its not as prevalently shown in the Nolan films but its mentioned in passing.
Batman does use his wealth and influence to help the city, most stories establish this at some point, to say otherwise is to be ignorant to probably the best superhero
7:57 Well, I think Gotham needs Bruce Wayne and Batman. A lot Batman media shows Bruce Wayne helping Gotham by donating money, but that doesn’t always work (fixing poverty won’t fix crime IRL, but especially in Gotham where most villains are wealthy). But I do agree that Bruce Wayne rarely fixes the corruption in most Batman media (though in Earth-2 he does reform some of his villains; and then fucking dies). A big problem here is that people take Batman too seriously. They aren’t able to treat him like other superheroes because he’s the “realistic” one (due to those good, but misguided Nolan movies), but he’s never supposed to be that (been fighting vampires since his third comic issue). I think we should just treat Gotham like any other fictional setting and follow the rules the writers gives us; if they tell us Gotham needs Batman, Gotham needs Batman.
I want a show where heroes are struggling to remain useful, because people have been building up effective militias with souped up tech(developed from early baddies that are aliens or whatever). Could have people over time start to blame the heroes for showing up and effectively challenging the bad guys. No idea where it would go, but could be cool I guess.
I like movies about great historical battles like the 300, Zulu, and Gettysburg. It's so refreshing to see what Western culture is supposed to be like. A lot of the historical battle relevant enough to be made into movies also usually involve triumphing against all odds, which gives me hope in these dark days.
Southland Tales. Greatest, most Phillip K Dick movie ever made. Check out the prequel comics after for the full story. They're pretty great although they kinda abandon a lot of the satire of the movie and are more like straight sci-fi stories.
Your first part of this comparison inspired me to watch One Punch Man. Thank you for introducing me to my new obsession. I'm glad I watched it before I finished your videos because holy crap it was amazing. Brilliant work as always, I love your channel as a whole.
When I first watched Deadpool I had my hopes high for that movie since everyone I knew liked it, but... I did not. It feeled to me like a very cliche superhero movie spiced up with some crude jokes, I'm glad that I'm not alone.
HONESTLY Good Subversion would have been if in the middle of Deadpool , because of his worsening mental state + brain cells being replaced , Deadpool forgot about his girlfriend and simply hunted down the bad guys because he had their photos and names all over his home .
In Avengers one nuke solved all the problems and destroyed the whole alien ship. In Endgame they summoned wakandans with spears instead of the US army that would have kicked Thanos ass in a minute.
9:10 they did invest in preventative measures, and it backfired horribly. In age of Ultron, Iron Man unleashes the Ultron system which was SUPPOSED to ensure world peace, and it ended up destroying a country instead
All Thanos had to do was ask Dr. Strange what the universe looked like 100 years into the future to see if it did good to wipe them out. If it's good, walk away, if it's bad, *fight*
To be fair, Thanos is "The Mad Titan" for a reason. He thinks he's just trying to save the universe, but what he's really doing is just trying to prove that he was right; that culling half of his species' population would have saved them, because his mind cannot handle the idea that he may have just been a madman whose plan was stupid and who couldn't save his people. He has to believe that killing half the population will save the universe from overpopulation, and he's out to prove it. Thanos isn't my favourite MCU villain (that would be Zemo from Civil War), but he was solidly written... in Infinity War at least.
Batman '66 and the Brave and the Bold cartoon play Batman's character with a hilariously campy angle to make fun of him, which is why those are the only adaptations of Batman I actually like.
I respect your use of the One Punch Man OST in a video that props it up on an unmountable pedestal and hits anything similar with a serious series serious punch.
Good and entertaining analysis. I think the main problem with the Deadpool movie is that Deadpool acts like that guy who thinks he's really funny, but he just recycles old Dad jokes and thinks talking like a zany cartoon character is the pinnacle of hilarity. It's the kind of humor that only 12 year olds would think is clever, and it's a huge irony that it occurs in an allegedly "adult" movie brimming with sex and profanity.
I just had one comment I wanted to make: Happy isn’t a SHIELD agent, he’s a security guard for Tony Stark who’s clearly not the best at his job but Tony keeps him around because they’re good friends. Which is why he can barely fight one guard while Black Widow takes out like 10
Mumen Rider.
The C class hero with the S class heart.
Naw. The S class heart is a villain that murders the right people for the right price.
@@Spazzycat14 edgy
@@lucasnadamas9317 Truth though.
Justice: 10
Mumen Rider is the heart and soul of one punch man, also I feel like he is sort of a metaphorical unsung hero for all those average joe's that go out into society and put themselves in danger or just help people. you know firemen, Rescue Workers, Volunteers, Police or just some random that puts their own life at risk to save someone else.
Yup, its kinda saying that the real heroes are those who work to save others despite being as frail as everyone else. Pretty cool how the author chose to spotlight a normal guy.
@@SomaSpice
Thing is, Saitama basically started out as a less-idealistic and more suicidal Mumen Rider until he got into crossfit.
I was honestly thinking he was gonna end up being like one punch man. Think about it, average dude with not much special about him. But he's a true hero who doesn't look for fame. He just wants to help people. Just like Saitama, he just kept going despite getting his ass kicked. They're oddly very similar.
Mumen Rider is the best superhero.
Scratch out the police bastards and i agree
Mumen rider is fantastic. I agree.
He is the greatest character ever
Mumen rider is the greatest example of heroism in media. Ever.
Look back at ancient texts and you’ll never come close to the beauty of mumens heroism.
The cyclist of justice will smite the darkness and give us the light we need to make it through the day!!!
"Dead pool will only be remembered for being Rated R"
Yup, yup, yup, on point. Much as I loved when the guy hit the highway sign and turned into a meatball, or the other guy gets shot and he brain fall out, the only real credit to this film I can give is that its success could mean the disintegration of the stigma that R ratings make no money.
That’s a really good point. The R-rating is usually one of the first things people praise about Deadpool, even though it says nothing about the quality of the film itself.
It's Reddit man-child the movie. What did you expect?
Deadpool's girlfriend looks like the villain from Incredibles 2.
I don't remember either of their names.
That means that they probably are bad characters
Didn't know Dr Shaym was a Nazi too
Hello doctor daddy
I remember the Incredibles' villain name, Evelyn Devor. It's a shitty plot-spoiling pun name, which kinda messes with an okay movie.
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"You're trying to tell me this Jew... is a Nazi?
Marrrvell,,, waddya doin'?"
Brilliant.
Hydra weren't Nazis. They used and were planning to betray the Nazis. The Nazis in the movie also mentioned how little Hydra had provided towards the war effort. It'd be like calling the Japanese or Italians Nazis.
Michael Lampa You just know some NPC thinks the Italians and Imperial Japanese were literally Hitler. There’s even a TV tropes page called a Nazi by another name.
@@Sorakeyblademaster37 Both the Italians and Japanese were fascistic groups. Hell, the Italians invented fascism (or, well, took a modernist view of Roman Imperialism). Nazi's had the Aryan race, Mussolini had the Romans, and the Japanese had... well the Japanese. All believed that a strong nationalist government was best, where the undesirables (Jews, Romas, Blacks, Chinese, the French) were repressed and forced to work for their betters. All three had similar purges, albeit the scale was different. Most of the Italian purges were handled by the Blackshirts against other Italians (that I'm aware of), Hitler had the Jews and gays, Japan was viciously brutal with the Koreans and the Chinese. All three were adamant in recreating their "ideal" historic Empires and uniting their people. Italy had Imperial Rome, Germany had the Holy Roman Empire, Japan did what it does every night and try to take over the World (expand throughout Asia)!
So all the nations espoused a similar rhetoric, believed in an Imperial power, and held their own race as being superior to others while committing atrocities against their lesser races. Nazis and Hitler are a culture touchstone, but that's all they are. I'm not advocating for Japan or Italy as being "literally Hitler," rather stating that Nazi Germany wasn't all that special. Hell, one of the worst offenses Japan is known for (Rape of Nanking) was perpetrated by most the main Western powers in Peking (Boxer Rebellion) less than 40 years prior. I remember reading in correspondence the raping done by Western armies appalled a Japanese general who found it deplorable. How much of that is true I don't know; every side declared the rest as being the primary offenders during occupation.
@@TheInsomniaddictAnd they all were based and redpilled. Who doesnt wish they had won
@@storm___ In all seriousness, I'm glad they didn't win. As much as we are under attack right now, we aren't seeing people gassed or lined up and shot, yet. Democratism, Republicanism, Capitalism, whatever-ism-you-want-to-call-today is pretty damn good and worth saving if we can. There's problems and they need to be solved, but I think it'd be better than working for some glorious leader whom talking against would lead to jail time or death. I mean, that's literally what the SJWs want right now and if their communism fails, well we'll be having an Islamic based/redpilled government soon enough.
You sold me when you said you liked hero academia.
"You like what I like so now I like you. but if you ever not like what I like then I will hate you and your opinion will be wrong."
That's how fandom's work right? What you say is the word of god until I disagree with you. Keep up the good work man.
SXR123 i dont
@SXR123
Legitimate statement that's hard to protest.
Too bad hero academia is a pretty bare-bones Shonen anime with a cookie cutter protagonist who wants to be the next best ninja president, pokemon master. In a world filled with people gunning for the top position. Only unlike hunter x hunter and one piece. Hero academia's world is shallow and bland.
+Letters & Numbers
Shonen...it's not Seinen. Lower your expectations. Just look at the pretty pictures and remember what Miyazaki said, "[The fans] ruined anime." That's you & me, buddy.
Aside: Never trust anyone who squints more than you do.
How much lower do you want me expectations to be? Hero academia is basically bleach.
A lot of adaptations forget that Bruce Wayne is literally insane. He does try and help Gotham through his philanthropy, but he's obsessed with just beating the shit out of the criminals that inhabit the city as a means to live out his revenge fantasies against Joe Chill, the guy who murdered his parents.
I mean way worse stuff has happened to other heroes than Bruce Wayne, honestly, but he deals with it far worse (or better, depending on your perspective).
Dick Grayson said it best. Batman is a psycho
Which is why Joker and batman are iconic. Joker is constantly trying to get batman to kill him, which would throw him over the edge in batmans mind of him being seperate from the "criminals" that killed his parents, despite batman doing exactly same things. Beating the shit out of people to fix some internal insecurity about the death of his parents. He is absolutely insane and reckless.
Still, I can least can get behind his motives, when compared to government and commissioner Gordon, who can't help a fucking vigilante whose doing everything in his power to help you people but they can't even help him by reducing his freaks of enemies at least.
There isn't just one Batman though, so the adaptations have their own versions of the character, that even in the comics varies by era.
Beating the shit out of the unemployed is the based, idk wtf you taking about
i liked one punch man before watching this video but you made me appreciate it even more.
I love one punch man so much. The final reveal at the end that Saitama wasn’t even trying when fighting Boros was brilliant and basically brought the story full circle.
You made me stay up 32 minutes longer then I wanted, how dare you create amazing content >: (
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E;R When will you make the video on Subjectivity?
Billy La Bufanda That doesn't matter, any man would realistically do 10x better and hit far harder then he did, I've seen multiple Rekt thread webms with random fucking betas like that dude beat the shit out of someone, they intentionally made him be a complete shitty, sluggish, and overall retarded beta when it comes to how to *_hit someone_* just to show how much "grl power :DDD" Black Widow has. It's fucking stupid. I mean Jesus she doesn't even look while one of the enemy guys just STANDS THERE as she pepper sprays him, it's one thing if she's being badass just because she's badass, but the fact they made sure to show how bad the "Stupid booy" is and 'how good da womyns can do things that men do' is annoying, I (and probably E;R) would have no issue with her kicking some ass if it weren't for the fact they not only took some scenes AFTER the fight to show off how "powarful" of a woman she is like that pepper spray bs and also to show off how 'le stupid chubby boy' is doing something a strong WOMAN did 10x better. It's like how no one complains if Iron man blasts some shit, but literally every time Black Widow kicks some ass they have to shove it down our throats that "See da womyns can do cool tinges too! And waaaay better den the mens can!" every time she takes down anything or does something important ironically makes people (or atleast me) hate her more for her primary trait being "female" even though they're trying to show how gud tha females is
That's racist
Riko Wolfin When I found his channel I stayed up till 3 watching everything
Oh vey! I love this channel! Thanks Fuhrer Felix.
Seriously. This channel is awesome, so glad it was pointed out.
in fairness to bruce wayne, his father spend all his time and money trying to lift up gotham but for all his efforts he and his wife still got gunned down. to bruce wayne the only way to fix gotham was to get rid of the crime first.
Also, in most best batman stories, he's actually treated like an insane sociopath
He use fear and terror to keep small time criminals in check, he even fucking dress like a godamn bat
It's not for no-reasons that joker give him the old "you and I aren't that different" shtick, it's because they're both fucking insane sociopaths who put on a fucking costume to terrorize peoples
And even then he still tries to improve Gotham with his wealth
@@Rise65487 the difference between Joker and Batman is that while it's true that Batman terrorizes criminals he (in better adaptations, forget about Snyder) also gives hope to the average gothamite of a better way of life (The Dark Knight Returns explores this, but overall by showing them a moral standard to look up to he changes Gotham's apathy to a desire of improving their conditions, which is one of the main reasons he refuses to kill and why he covered up the Two Face ordeal in Nolan's TDK, just compare the Gotham in Batman Begins to the Gotham in TDR) while Joker truly only does it to satisfy his own sadistic tendencies, somethig that Bruce used to do in his earlier year but has since moved from it and set his sights of becoming not just a symbol of fear but of hope of a better way that Gotham so desperatly needs
@@vanillabatcave5677 yes, i agree, but it still dosn't change that by social-standards, he's batshit (pun-intended) insane.
having clever, well-intended, and rational justifications to back-up something irrational dosn't make it sane.
he's still very-much a man that dress-up as a bat, to beat-up criminals at night.
also Joker dosn't only commit atrocities to satisfy his sadistic-tendencies,
he also does it to prove a point.
in most of his best material, he's usually pulling shit to force Batman to either make a really bad compromise, or straight-up throw away his own codes and values.
Joker's entire game relationship with Batman, is forcing him to admit to himself and the rest of the world that he's insane as anyone-else.
anyway, you've mentioned a lot the "Dark-Knight" movie-saga from Christopher Nolan,
which is fine, they're pretty good movies and good re-adaptations of Batman stories.
But i heavily recommend you to read the comics if you want to have more knowledge about Batman and it's characters.
@@Rise65487 well can't deny that gotta be *nuts* (heh) to dress up as a bat and beat people up, his methods as however are not limited to Batman as we both agree, but I would say that Joker does commit atrocities to satisfy himself, by messing with Batman usually as you said, the point is that the dude gets off on the dynamic and that's why he does the things that he does, which already puts him far from being the same as Batman. And yeah while I do like Nolan's Batman I have also read the comics (when I say The Dark Knight Returns I refer to Miller's comic if that wasn't clear) and overall I'd say that I have a decent picture of who he is, what he does, and how he affects Gotham
“It’s better to be simple and deep, than complex and shallow.” -Fred Rogers
Deadpool's comic origins are much, much better. The cancer is the same, but he doesn't get depressed and shit. He just enters into the Weapon X program, ends up composed entirely of cancer cells(hence the ugly), ends up in an insane asylum where he meets his girlfriend, who eventually dies and comes back as a superhero herself, and eventually deadpool dies and falls in love with the personification of death, resulting in Thanos, who also loves Death, cursing him with life.
damn that sounds awesome
That's because it's from the good ol days when marvel staff weren't up their own ass with social justice bullshit.
So you're telling me Deadpool is Thanos' dad
Doing that in a movie would be nigh impossible
@@GreatSmithanon No; the 90s were not "good old days"; just ask any comic book fan. They were the age of terrible comic books and 90s Anti-Heroes. The only reason Deadpool survived that era is that, after Rob Liefeld stopped writing him and he ended up in the hands of other writers, he got rewritten as the wisecracking fourth-wall-breaking parody of 90s Anti-Heroes that we know him to be today.
Here's what Stan Lee had to say to two writers (including Rob Liefeld: the guy famous for being unable to draw feet) at Marvel Comics in the 90s after seeing first-hand just how bad their comic books were: "You guys have ruined us. We're giving up on comics and switching to showbiz." He meant that last part as a joke, but he accurately predicted the future of Marvel.
Damn dude, have you ever considered making videos on the fundamentals of storytelling, character development, and world building? Cause it sounds like you know a fairly good amount about what makes a story interesting, and I'd watch the hell out of that kind of content, especially with your sense of humor.
Take notes, cuz i think this is how some people teach.
He sucks at them.
He's kind of bad at them.
That’d be great
Kye Dysarthria Wait, has he done them before?
Hey E;R
I love you.
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E;R
Was that dark humour or an edgy insult you don’t mean but can do ?
Or is it a reference in the anime featured in the clip ?
Ay don't out a brotha like dat u wigah xD
@Nicholas Leclerc
E;R is referencing the classic tsundere "baka" response to someone saying they love him, except this is technically not the tsundere "baka" but a dandere attempting a tsundere "baka", but that's not important.
@@seanshin1615 i still don’t get it lol
I will always love how much Mumen Rider is hyped up by the crowd only to get absolutely rekt. And the best part is that same scene basically plays out again against the Deep Sea King but instead of being played for laughs it is instead a super somber scene that underscores how much of a true hero he (and Saitama) is.
Deadpool's worst sin would be that DP isn't a unique character in the film, like he somewhat is in the comics. Of course I'm not talking about his powers, but personality. In the film, almost _everybody_ is as quirky, snarky and sarcastic as him. Ironically, this made Colossus - a supporting character - the only exceptional one.
What the fuck why are you just repeating what E'R said in the video?
Cringey and incorrect.
@ImnotBareToilet Dad, what's a sped?
This is a really common problem in Marvel movies in general though. There's SO MUCH FUCKING SNARK! Even characters who are SUPPOSED to be really snarky (like Tony Stark) don't stick out because nearly every other character is doing the same thing.
Bro he JUST said that in the video
It's funny how spider man basically started the origin story thing.
Then made a sequel that didn't need to rely on an origin story and actually (in my opinion) did a better job.
Guess marvel forgot that with their sequels.
Trashcoming wasn't better than Spider-Man one.
He means Raimi's Spiderman
Honestly Spider-Man in comics lets the death of uncle ben, gwen and George Stacy and he takes on too much responsibility
(Aldo other charcaters like ned and harry,)
Well, I mean, for the first part of Spider-Man 1, Uncle Ben's death actually serves a purpose to the plot: It makes Parker go after his murderer, and after killing him, decides to become an actual super-hero... Then it never gets brought back again and then Spider-Man 3 un-does the entire shit...
That's why Spider-Man 2 is the best one.
@@vintheguy Lets the death?
What are you trying to say here?
That he lets them die? Because that's not true.
That he lets their deaths weigh on him too much and takes on responsibility when he shouldn't? True. But also a very human reaction, he knew he could've helped but wasn't good enough and blames himself, a very human response to the situation.
Please let me know which one you mean.
Because I think you mean the second one, but I can't be sure because of the phrasing and sentence structure. Which in your statement conflict and present two different points.
You also missed a part of the sentence if you mean the second one, which circles back around to lack of proper sentence structure.
Please answer my question!
(I know this may seem a little harsh, but things like this really get on my nerves. So, I apologise if this comes of as rude, not going to aplologise for the nitpicking though, I will nitpick to my heart's content.)
I Find myself agreeing whole-heartedly with your perspective on basically everything. I would love to chat with you about Marvel though, Specifically Civil War because mayybbbee I disagree with you there. Your method of analysis is something I really want to try and work on myself. Honestly impressed. Let me know if you have any spare time, I have Skype, Discord, Teamspeak etc. honestly find your videos very entertaining :) Instant sub.
OH MY GOD IT’S A BABY MAULER BEFORE HE BLEW UP AND ACTED LIKE HE DIDN’T KNOW NOBODY! 😆😂
Nah Marvel sucks shit, all of it.
Ah, is this MauLers birthplace?
Holy shit, it's long man before the long.
Love your stuff, Mauler :D
I agree with you for the most part but 7:57 many iterations of Batman, Batman does use his wealth to help Gotham. Especially in the Arkham games. Maybe it's different in the movies and that's what you're referring to, otherwise, Wayne Corp often aids in Gotham's infrastructure, power and other stuff to support the city.
There is a difference between subversion and inversion. Specifically talking about sexuality.
Subversion such as one punch is an anomaly within the greater universe, greater genre and physical reality. But the public is 'in' on it as an anomaly.
Inversion seen in most Western movies is can be a anomaly or a commonality within the greater universe, it is typically common within the greater genre but an anomaly within the physical world. Most of the public wants this escapism and don't _Feel_ it is an as anomaly
Strong women are an inversion, they are a trope that goes so far back (1945 and beyond) that the public has come to expect them as necessarily to reinforce their illusion.
Imagine if there wasn't a strong female in a super hero movie? amygdala snap, TRIGGERED.
Interesting. I agree.
It's amazing how much the amygdala determines human behaviors, I highly recommend reading the series of articles "touching the raw amygdala" on AnonymousConservative, it's the most informative thing I've ever read despite being so short (only a couple of blog posts). Take a look at the wikipedia page for "amygdala hijack" to get you interested
Mendel 8 months late, but fun fact. You know what is the first definite and surviving book about strong women? It's "The Book of the City of Ladies" by Christine de Pizan, a noblewomen and a part of the royal court of Burgundian throne, written in 1405. That book is a several hundred pages long assortment of biographies of famous women from history, which means that there was plenty of those by the time. More than a half of European languages had not been written down by that time, but we already had books about strong women.
@Miau_Frito
Yeah great article. Really recommend it.
@@dragonballfan8 1 year late here (yeah I watched this again and saw my comment)
That is pretty cool.
I have the feeling at the strong women trope is a device most typically used to poke men into being more dominate. Like a Shit Test.
That famous French Revolution painting is an example. If some women can fight bare breasted with courage then surely you can too.
This mainly seems to be a European thing, other ethnic groups seem to have different outlooks. The current Hollywood 'strong women' trope seems to behave to humiliate men, which seemingly is done in bad faith rather then to make men take dominance.
In the example you gave it seems to be about women taking pride in their sex. Which sounds great.
@@mendel7575 Mendel 5 month's late but i don't think humiliation of men in those movies is in bad faith, at least not entirely. It has more to do with the fact that its very hard to portray women as strong when they're surrounded by competent men. Simply by the fact that competent men will steal the spotlight and look stronger due to the fact that our specie is sexually dimorphic, with men having all the strength, physical or otherwise. So in order to make a female character look strong you have to either isolate her from the male competition or make the competition incompetent, be that due to stupidity, evilness or plot. You can try writing her as a man, but it will always look weird and incongruent.
This is what happens in real life as well. We isolate female athletes for this reason precisely, female athletes cease to exist if they put into competition with men.
Quality strong female characters are those who're in fact "strong FOR a woman" and not just "strong woman" period. By opting out of competing with men you can sidestep the need to humiliate men to portray a strong woman.
As far as I know Bruce does in fact use his fortune to help Gotham, but since it's not enough he dresses up as a Bat vigilante to instill fear into the criminals and work out some major issues as far as I can tell
Star Wars, at least in the first 6 films, handled superhero characters and setting right. The Jedi are the heroes of the story, capable of telepathy, mind control, strength, exceptional piloting skills, and wielding weapons that can kill almost anything. Does that mean that the rest of the galaxy just sits on their ass and does nothing until the Jedi arrive? Nope. They make their own armies, make large fleets of warships, and have their own ideas on how to take down the Jedi. Not to mention the many Bounty Hunters and trained killers who specialize in Jedi-hunting.
The Confederacy creates General Grievous and his Magnaguards, training Grievous in Jedi saber combat and arming Magnaguards with electric staffs that can block lightsabers. They managed to kill enough Jedi that Grievous became the big threat after Count Dooku died. The Republic trains Clones to be able to handle Jedi and to keep up with them, and they even have an emergency kill switch that can be used to take down the Jedi with the Clones, which they do in Order 66 after the Jedi tried to sack the Chancellor. The Empire was so successful in killing Jedi that by the time of the Original Movies, there were barely any Jedi left. Heck, even Episode VII got in on the action and created riot sticks that could counter lightsabers.
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Jedi, you idiot. Force-users were practically the superheroes of the SW universe. Haven't you seen Force Unleashed?
Phreaker1997
Bitch, they consider Batman a superhero. When some dude with money and ninja gadgets can be considered a superhero, practically everyone can be one.
Whatever.......
HolyknightVader999 Star Wars is gay
Gary Johnson
It's Spartan sausage.
There was this brilliant fan made Deadpool short made awhile back. It should still be on TH-cam. The humour was spot on there. They even had Deadpool talking to the two voices in his head that show up as cardboard cut outs. A merc jumps out to attack him and Deadpool grabs one of the cut outs to use as a shield. It was a shame that the Deadpool movie failed to utilise the fourth wall in such a manner.
The concept of gods dressing up like clowns and mostly punching random criminals and/or civilians while sticking to some gimmick is so asinine that most authors don't even attempt to do actual world building. And, judging by the backlash to the new shitty-gritty superhero movies, many fans seem to detest the idea.
I doubt it very much that Deadpool authors really tried to deconstruct superhero genre the way One Punch Man authors did. It's standard comic pulp by design, just with nature-identical flavorings of subversion and reflection.
With the movie, I suppose that's true. In the comics the comic creators of Deadpool were about to get cancelled and.. Out birthed a 'LOL idc' character thingie yeah
You just inspired me to the perfect subversion. CLOWNS... dressed up like GODS! No wait, that's stupid.
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>One Punch Man authors
There is only ONE.
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+ZenoDovahkiin theee are tei autores tho
21:56 here's the translation :"specialy when they are Swedish"
It's Arabic but it's written in reverse and it's not that grammaticaly right so I corrected it....
@Char Aznable your welcome
He probably translated it with google
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>hear steam bloop
>check to see if my one friend messaged me
>Nothing
E;R Why
I disagree with the "origin stories are cancer" for Deadpool for the same reason it works in Iron-man. The movie-makers just made the mistake of not having Wade make a huge change to become the turned up to eleven-Deadpool.
You sound like the human embodiment of /tv/
I don't know if that's a compliment or an insult
But he's not a fat pedophile.
4u
Jamal Johnson you don't know that
Autism is Uncontrollable
* Spatial, “meaning of life pondering” style of theme plays... *
Autism is Uncontrollable : E;R is skinny, you can tell from his voice.
The ending bit with Saitama's speech was beautiful
Gonna be the "Actually guy" so you can leave the thumbs down now.
Bruce Wayne came back after training and pretty much exterminated the mob and corruption to a reasonable level within 2 years, that's why outside of the early span of his career (in comics) it's the rogues gallery he fights. Beyond that, Wayne enterprises effectively employs 60% of the city on its own, not to mention the various work programs he set up, educational programs he sponsors, and he wrestled control of the banks out of the hands of the Juden and Wayne Financial is pretty much the tits. All this while making himself and his investors a fucking fortune (Estimated in the hundreds of billions for his own personal wealth), plowing super models as well as whores in capes/leather that call themselves heroes and villains, and punching his way through the kind of freaks that other superheroes wished they could pump out.
Fuck ya, Batman.
Also, on the freak in a cape topic, the best Batman stories are the ones where the entire population are deathly afraid of the fucking Bat-demon ninja thing that may or may not be a vampire and lives in the shadows, and Batman's stance on that is 'Fucking good, be afraid, you twats. Maybe you'll start doing shit right on your own.'
And Gothan City still a hell-hole and complete shit
Completely agree, but remember he said he doesn't read the comics so he's probably basing this assumption on the movies which never do a good job of portraying half the cool shit you mention. After all, they're too busy fellating his origin story. As much as BvS was a very flawed film, and even if you don't agree with Batman killing people, at the end of the day that incarnation of Batman was the best film version in terms of how the public 'should' treat a good Batman.
How well does any of that work, though? Because if he really did all that, there is no way it would still be such a dirty, crime-ridden shithole, and if they do still make it like that, it's just to serve the story and allow Batman to keep being Batman. Is there a storyline where he quits because he's not needed anymore?
+someguywhocanfly Come on, it's capitalism, which writer in his/her right mind wants such storyline?
@@someguywhocanfly In a lot of iterations there's something called perspective. Batman isn't hanging around in the nice parts of Gotham he cleaned up. He's in the slums that need his attention. The better Batman stories show the better halves of Gotham through Bruce and the worst half through Batman. And even the focus is mostly on the rogue's gallery because they're the bigger threat. There's always going to be crime and bad parts of cities and that's why Batman never stopped being Batman.
It's also why some of the best Batman stories tend to toy around with the idea of whether Batman has done enough for Gotham and has become part of the problem. Or whether Bruce should leave Batman behind because he's already done everything he could as Batman and anything further is to his own personal detriment and sacrifice. Thats my biggest complaint with shitty Batman stories is because a lot of them portray Batman as dark and gritty but forget it's just as important to portray the positive aspects. The best Batman stories out there are the ones that balance both the good work Bruce has done and the darker complex sides of being a superhero. It's why Batman has endured so long, there's so many stories and possibilities to tell because his origins aside from dead parents are largely ambiguous. Some versions have him training with various masters of different martial arts and crafts, the Nolan trilogy made him a League of Shadows member, some have him self taught, and some simply don't ever explore it at all.
This made me realize why I liked Ghost in the Shell (the series) so much: world building! Here too, you can see the characters living their life in the IN their world.
Can you do a review on Mob Psycho 100?
But in the dark knight trilogy we know he did stuff to improve Gotham. For example, he heavily funded and constructed orphanages, and not to mention his attempt to provide the city with cheaper, more efficient power
God you are so under rated but this was a smart video. better than any rotten tomatoes review I have ever seen. please, more of this quality of work!
After watching deadpool 3, everything you have said still holds up
While I'm not necessarily in agreement on all your points, I find great pleasure in watching your videos because of the thought-out argumentation, humorous presentation, and sardonic attitude. Keep up the good work!
Thanks, man. Will try.
@@esemicolonr Nice 6 year streak.
I always felt something was wrong with Deadpool, it was good, but far less than I hoped it would be - but I was never able to pinpoint why that is. You actually put into words what I felt, subscribed because of that.
Jeez man. I don't agree with every single thing you say, but these video's are incredibly entertaining and I love how you don't seem to "filter" yourself for any sort of audience. Just saying exactly what you want to say, even if it might piss off some folk, even the ones that would normally agree with you on other points. No taking sides, just your own thang,
Keep up the cool work. I'll be watchin' you from now on.
I agree I think that one punch is just as flawed as Deadpool but It sound entertaining to watch his videos.
@@Mike-xh2vm In what way?
@@littlemoth4956 I am not in the mood to get into an argument, but here we go,the plotline is to repetetive, same with the jokes, the characters don't develop too much and sometimes the manga and webcomic Focus on boring characters that no one really cares about. Some arcs are just a chore to get through, example; the Speed of sound and flashy step flashback arc, was a chore to get thought.
@@Mike-xh2vm To say its equally flawed is amusing. Were you awake watching them?
Except he does filter what he says, it just so happens to be the filter that makes him say what he thinks will upset people the most. Making your content upset a certain kind of person is still allowing that person to control what you're saying.
"spider man is boring without uncle ben dying"
You need to watch the animated. Ben is a throw-away line in a 2-3 episodes in the middle of the first season and barelly ever come back.
Yes you are correct my friend and I like e,r but of what he says about Spiderman is so wrong and I don't get it it makes sound like he doesn't understand the character
@User Don't play dumb. You know the one I'm talking about. And I did give it's name.
@User Alright I'll spell it, it's "SpiderMan the animated series". The one that isn't within the "most of them" and as far as I'm concerned, the only good one too.
I'm still waiting on the beautiful destruction of Adventure Time
BlackCommie I...I thought I was the only one.
Its not that bad honestly
Its junk, but in a good kind
What Japan has that hollywood doesn't: lack of gems.
This is why I like the Daredevil Netflix Show, Daredevil especially in S1 is looking out for the little guy and dealing with mostly street level crime.
Not done watching the video but I had to pause and laugh. After you started describing Tigger and Bunny I was laughing my ass off because that sounds amazing and now I’m gonna go watch that shit. It sounds like one of the best things ever.
"Uh-ridge-in""Out-leer"eeeeeegggghhh
You forgot "ah-cah-dah-mia."
+E;R Holy shit, bruh, did you just reply to me? Do you mind if I ask you a few questions?
Go right on ahead.
E;R
Sweet.
Okay, so, I'm probably forgetting a few, but whatever:
1. Is there any Western capestuff you actually like? I know you mentioned liking OPM and Tiger & Bunny and shit, but those are both animes, so-
2. Do you actually think prostitutes ("HOORS") might as well be just as bad as psychopaths?
3. Is it possible to have an instance of a girl character beating up or otherwise getting the better of a boy character without it being fakey girl powery stuff?
4. What are the parameters for having a female character on any kind of team without them being "Token Ass", instead being "Justifiably There"?
5. What do you wish you saw more of in capestuff?
I'm probably forgetting shit, but, whatever.
1. Iron Man 1. Nolan’s The Dark Knight. Steelheart, novel by Brandon Sanderson, was alright. Dr. Strange surpassed expectations (escaped many superhero trappings with its sorcery, though). I’m having a helluva time coming up with more here. I’d be hard-pressed for Eastern superhero-esque stuff, too, as I named the big three already.
2. Pfft. No. Psychopaths can be productive. ;]
3. Tatsumaki, the esper chick I showed in this video, is a good example. She has an actual ability that supersedes her physical limitations, so her throwing Genos into rubble is funny and makes sense.
4. Thing is, we unconsciously understand men dominate physical and intellectual fields by an _absurd_ margin. You can consciously disagree, but this is just the reality of consensus. So, to put a female character in a position _requiring_ ridiculous physical or intellectual prowess, but with as little cognitive dissonance as possible… you’ll need to do it very cleverly. Black Widow-type characters don’t care for clever. They turn our instincts on their head and go as big, dumb, and loud as they can, and all in a skintight suit for guys to gawk at. Now, I like eye-candy-a lot-but when it’s effortlessly breaking a dozen trained male fighters, my boner is kill, too.
To justify a girl on a superhero team, she’s going to have to be more than just human. I can’t see a better way. Negasonic Teen Warhead in DP was alright, but Angel and DP’s gf’s ball-crunchers were weak because they’d never, ever get a knee to the cunt. Cheap shots all around.
5. I like how The Dark Knight handled it. You’ve got this city, Gotham, embroiled in crime and corruption, and this weirdo dressed like a bat’s almost making it all worse, so you’ve got the district attorney, Harvey Dent, doing clean-up. He’s such a cool guy, he even steals Bruce’s girlfriend. Then a maniacal mastermind shows up, not for city-wide domination, but just to fuck with Bats personally, which drives a huge wedge between Gotham and Batman. It’s like the city’s more than just a set-piece with more people than just Bruce living in it.
That’s what I want. Cause and effect. Because if superheroes showed up tomorrow, you can bet your bottom dollar the media would have cameras so far up their asses, we’d know what they’d had for breakfast. I’m not saying create a bureaucratic red-tape drama-fest like BvS, but some push-and-pull is good. Spiderman-particularly Raimi’s films-incorporate this with Peter’s photo-op job, illustrating a public demand for Spiderman. It’s stuff like that that impresses me a lot.
I’d also like for the citizenry to not be paralyzed every time a monster/supervillain shows up. This has happened too many times not to have at least one or two precautionary measures in place.
But at the end of the day, a commenter did mention-superheroes were originally for kids, and yes, many superhero stories tend toward childlike sensibilities. Is it really worth reforming superheroes enough to make them more enjoyable for _me?_ Maybe not.
Long comment is long. But them’s my thoughts.
This made me watch One Punch Man again, what an awesome show
You'll probably never see this, but Worm by Wildbow sounds like exactly the hero/villain story you need to satisfy both your subversion desire, and your opposition to overpowered costumed twats only using their god abilities to beat up purse snatchers. No idea if anyone else mentioned this, but it's pretty dank.
I would also add that Halo did this right as well. The Spartans are the superhero types, carrying out missions nobody can do, wearing power armor that costs as much as a battlecruiser, doing crazy stunts that blow up entire warships and ring-worlds and decimate enemy forces. The reaction to a Covenant tank group for a UNSC marine would be to run the fuck away and find some heavy weapons. Spartans? They take a pea-shooter, shoot the gunner in the tank, then either punch the tank to death or kill the driver and hijack it.
But does it mean that the Covenant are just sitting on their ass doing little to counter this threat? Fuck no. As the Spartans progress, the Covenant send tougher and tougher enemies until the enemies the Spartans fight outclass them in everything: strength, armor, and firepower, and the Spartans in question have to use their heads to get out of this mess. But the Covenant actually do pick up the slack in Spartan-killing to the point where they got the Spartans down to a few left by the time the first Halo game pops by. Master Chief, the player character, is one of the few Spartans left.
Romano Coombs
Well, that's because you can get poetic in the novels while the cutscenes are just show and tell.
This sounds the Star Wars plotline, kinda. 'Punch the tank to death' good shit boi
That's how it actually goes.
The lore, not necessarily the games, goes out of its way to explain the consequence/downside of being a badass SPARTAN II. They are kidnapped by the government at young ages and trained Navy Seal-style for the rest of their lives while as partaking in fatal experiments that make them superhuman. In the end they are impossibly strong, fast, and intelligent; however, they emotionally mute and psychologically damaged. All they know is KILL. This makes less powerful soldiers like the ODSTs, who DID work and train to become badasses, despise the SPARTAN program. It also makes the new SPARTAN IVs look like pussies because although they went though intense training and super serums, they VLOUNTEERED to become soldiers; they weren't indoctrinated. Even though they "earned" their super-human abilities, they did not go through the cruel and inhuman trials that the older SPARTANS did.
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That, and the fact that Spartan-IVs don't perform the kind of crazy stunts that Spartan-IIs do, nor are they as much an icon as the Spartan IIs. I was quite surprised Del Rio didn't get a firing squad from the military for abandoning Master Chief. The military in the games practically worshiped the ground the Master Chief walked on. Even in the first game he seemed like a god amongst men.
Even in parody, I fucking cried at the post-Sea King scene. That scene kills me everytime. The only sacrifice that Saitama can ever make is a social sacrifice. He let's the people keep believing in the system that (generally does but this time) doesn't work, because he wants people to have a meaning. Something he now craves. It's sad in the same since that the sacrifice of Jesus Christ is sad, the perfect and powerful person, who in reality has never done anything wrong, taking the fall for no other reason than to lift others up.
Luv me christ, literally a real life superhero
To those who liked the Jesus statement, I am no longer Christian and rescind the statement on him being anything more than a jew who pissed off the romans and other jews.
EDIT: eh, this was a cringe thing to say. I'm still an atheist, but the mythology of the Christ figure does inspire many people, even if it no longer holds any weight for me personally.
@@fabulous_finn7810 U have become gay, im sorry for the loss of ur foreskin
@@fabulous_finn7810 lol
@@fabulous_finn7810 Don't confuse mythology and history; I'm an atheist, and I read your statement as being about the mythology of it, not the reality that he was probably just another of the same mold as Bernie Sanders.
if you are expecting to have you expectations subverted then dead pool will subvert your expectations
To be fair, Happy Hogan is not a "Male s.h.i.e.l.d agent", he's Tony's normal ass bodyguard. Widow was experimented on (at least in the comic) the and trained to be a near perfect killer. The double fight scene was supposed to be a joke.
This piece should be a part of English Literature Studies. Excellent thesis my dude
"It was decent"
Laughed out loud. It lasted 7.6 seconds and was a clean, goodhearted belly rumble-to throat laugh. High Quality.
10:56 E;R even liked *The Boys* b4 it got popular
This video made me realise how great the world building is in OPM
You're right on almost all of your points except for the ones regarding the superhero genre.
As far as the Marvel capeshit, you're definitely on-point but the issue is that it's Marvel capeshit so it's nowhere near representative of the genre as far as the original source material goes. Why? Because Marvel's currently pozzed to fuck and back and their Hollywood studio isn't actually trying to make good superheroe movies. Their goal is to make a product that hit all the points that the Big Bang Theory did but was a little bit better so it could skirt by in the general mass of the 'nerd' audience so as to not spark schisms in the communities.
The closest they ever got to actually good superhero 'stuff' is, as you said, Iron Man 1, or maybe the first two Captain Americas, at least for the movies. The best they've done is the Daredevil Netflix series, which is actually fucking excellent IMO as a comicbook-reader.
Many of the problems you have with Deadpool aren't present in the comics, though they do have their own issues. The game is actually a much better representation of the character. The character is actually quite tragic but is always used for slapstick or pitch-black comedy. He's a much different character in the comics then he is in the movie, where it's just his most ephemeral elements cut to fit with 'that prick from Van Wilder' and normie (read: garbage) sensibilities.
All that said, I think you're a bit too harsh on the rest of the movie, contextually. Deadpool himself is bad, I agree, but the movie around them is very much a product of the realities of Hollywood. The thing was filmed on a shoestring budget, relatively, and that basically accounts for why so much of the movie takes place in the same shitty city with a bunch of g-list actors. It's kind of awesome that they even managed to have an authentic Colossus and the X-Men cannon even in the movie. And that's one more thing as well - it's not the MCU cannon, it's the X-Men cannon, where the X-Men and the Brotherhood of Mutants are the only real cape-organizations in the world and they're all feared and hated. Why? Bunches of reasons, but I can't go into them as this is already Trump's Wall of Text as is.
Lastly, and this point kinda ties back into my first quibble, the superheroes in the actual comics that these movies are based on are quite different. I've read below why you liked The Dark Knight and I feel I should point out that Batman's comic setting is an excellent example because good Batman stories or runs are like The Dark Knight but turned up to 11 in the hands of a competent writer. Gotham is more than just a setting, it itself is a character in many of the good Batman comics because it's so much different than other places in the continuity: the majority of cops that are corrupt are totally unaware of other corrupt cops because there's so many crimelords that no one knows who's on who's payroll, the average citizen takes even children's toys and potted plants as potential muggers after all the shit the likes of Poison Ivy and The Toyman, at least two different international terrorists will show up and start operations in the city with the express purpose of fucking with the Batman at any given time every few years, Wayne Enterprises is one of the only forces holding the city together because it privately funds half the homeless shelters and donates to the municipal agencies, the list goes on. Now, there's obviously the caveat of 'competent writers' but it's still comics - multiplicity and time are luxuries they can afford. A bad run of Superman or The Flash aren't particularly damaging to the continuity on the whole because another writer can always come along and re-write the story years later or just retcon it the run after. In that regard, it reinforces, to me at least, the idea of just how much cancer Marvel Studios is, because comics are a modern-day mythology now and of all the stories to pick from and all the writers to get on the projects, these shitbags decided on Civil War and Joss Whedon.
Yeah, the teamup comics are often either epic (Infinity Crisis, World War Hulk, the better Ultron stories, etc.) or a dumpster fire (the other Ultron stories, X-Men vs Avengers, Civil War, etc.).
I think you may be misusing the term 'Worf Effect' as it's not a good thing but I get what you're going for. Thor and Hulk are hilariously underpowered in the MCU compared to even their lighter comic book adaptations, but my point still remains - good or bad, it's all part of the mythology and it can always be re-interpreted or made light of later. With the movies, they have to make everything a homerun or it'll always be a sore point that sours the rest of the universe and Marvel has been fucking the goat on that one (Iron Man 3, Civil War, Luke Cage, and Iron Fist all spring to mind.)
Tatsumaki is, indeed, best ass. That statement alone validates this entire video series.
8:08 that's one thing about batman adaptations that really piss me off. They never (or rarely) touch on the contributions Bruce Wayne has made on fixing Gotham's infrastructure and funding of emergency services. A lot of the cells used to contain batman's super powered rogues were bought designed and paid for by Bruce Wayne's company. Traditionally he does a helluva lot to make Gotham a better place.
Well, the Batman persona is used exactly because Bruce Wayne can't do everything through the power of law exactly because of the corruption of it so he hides his identity and go hunt the villains that the government won't do anything about . Ironman is way stupider cause he's not after the people who corruption is hiding, he's just beating random villains, therefore *he* should just use his money and influence to fight crime from behind the scenes
This is one of the best videos you've made. Thoroughly enjoyed It, excellent points. You've summarised a lot of the problems I have with superhero live actions in one 30 minute video. Good job, dude.
You truly are a master video editor, an inspiration to us all.
Yes, I only noticed the Hillary Clinton thing at the 'Get out of jail free' remark now. It's still genius and deserves praise. All hail!
I'm really amazed by how much i I feel like I've learned more as a writer and story creator.
i love you ER . great content
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>Male SHIED agent vs. one security guard
More like,
>Male Bodyguard vs One Security Guard
I may not had liked Iron Man 2, but I remembered that guy. I also remembered he's a joke; since he's guarding a guy that can build mechsuits and fly around in them.
His entire existence is a joke.
Other than that, fuckin spot-on.
I know you don't know a lot of the comics (and probably dont care) but it is stated in the comics and shown multiple times that Bruce Wayne does use his fortune to help lower communities, its not as prevalently shown in the Nolan films but its mentioned in passing.
Batman does use his wealth and influence to help the city, most stories establish this at some point, to say otherwise is to be ignorant to probably the best superhero
7:57 Well, I think Gotham needs Bruce Wayne and Batman. A lot Batman media shows Bruce Wayne helping Gotham by donating money, but that doesn’t always work (fixing poverty won’t fix crime IRL, but especially in Gotham where most villains are wealthy). But I do agree that Bruce Wayne rarely fixes the corruption in most Batman media (though in Earth-2 he does reform some of his villains; and then fucking dies). A big problem here is that people take Batman too seriously. They aren’t able to treat him like other superheroes because he’s the “realistic” one (due to those good, but misguided Nolan movies), but he’s never supposed to be that (been fighting vampires since his third comic issue). I think we should just treat Gotham like any other fictional setting and follow the rules the writers gives us; if they tell us Gotham needs Batman, Gotham needs Batman.
You sir, are a HERO!!!!!!!!!
Damn it E;R! The video was touching and I agree with you 100%!
Came because of the drama, got badass commentary instead...while played sir, while played.
This video made me want to watch One Punch Man.
I want a show where heroes are struggling to remain useful, because people have been building up effective militias with souped up tech(developed from early baddies that are aliens or whatever).
Could have people over time start to blame the heroes for showing up and effectively challenging the bad guys.
No idea where it would go, but could be cool I guess.
Deadpool has Manic Depression.
Saitama just has Depression.
Dude who does Russian subtitles. I really appreciate your work.
18:07 "his younger daughter"
Yeah, I'd expect any of his daughters to be younger than him.
Some times you have to clarify
With anime that is
@@HeckPoliceman Because anime is a degeneracy.
Recommend us shit to watch. I'm getting tired of watching "Triumph of the Will" and "The Greatest Story Never Told" on repeat.
Patlabor 1&2?
Art of the Deal: The Movie
I like movies about great historical battles like the 300, Zulu, and Gettysburg. It's so refreshing to see what Western culture is supposed to be like. A lot of the historical battle relevant enough to be made into movies also usually involve triumphing against all odds, which gives me hope in these dark days.
Lord Acclaim Master and commander
Southland Tales. Greatest, most Phillip K Dick movie ever made. Check out the prequel comics after for the full story. They're pretty great although they kinda abandon a lot of the satire of the movie and are more like straight sci-fi stories.
Deadpool is a one time watch...I couldn't bring myself to re-watch it
Sounds like 99% of what gets passed off as entertainment in our day and age.
Genos is indeed best waifu
Your first part of this comparison inspired me to watch One Punch Man. Thank you for introducing me to my new obsession. I'm glad I watched it before I finished your videos because holy crap it was amazing. Brilliant work as always, I love your channel as a whole.
When I first watched Deadpool I had my hopes high for that movie since everyone I knew liked it, but... I did not. It feeled to me like a very cliche superhero movie spiced up with some crude jokes, I'm glad that I'm not alone.
“Robin is too childish! He destroys the gritty realism of a man dressed up as a bat!”
23:54 lol, that zoom in on the hair though.
HONESTLY
Good Subversion would have been if in the middle of Deadpool , because of his worsening mental state + brain cells being replaced , Deadpool forgot about his girlfriend and simply hunted down the bad guys because he had their photos and names all over his home .
Thank you, The Verge.
In Avengers one nuke solved all the problems and destroyed the whole alien ship. In Endgame they summoned wakandans with spears instead of the US army that would have kicked Thanos ass in a minute.
oddly enough
In the first FMA animation, Ed used some black widow moves on greed. do I mean that leg wrap spin thing? yes. yes I do
First FMA is best FMA.
KID D One of the coolest fights in FMA 03!
9:10 they did invest in preventative measures, and it backfired horribly. In age of Ultron, Iron Man unleashes the Ultron system which was SUPPOSED to ensure world peace, and it ended up destroying a country instead
Man you knew marvel sucked before everyone else.
I decided to watch this show just to enjoy this video, and it was a blast! Thank you!
All Thanos had to do was ask Dr. Strange what the universe looked like 100 years into the future to see if it did good to wipe them out. If it's good, walk away, if it's bad, *fight*
To be fair, Thanos is "The Mad Titan" for a reason. He thinks he's just trying to save the universe, but what he's really doing is just trying to prove that he was right; that culling half of his species' population would have saved them, because his mind cannot handle the idea that he may have just been a madman whose plan was stupid and who couldn't save his people. He has to believe that killing half the population will save the universe from overpopulation, and he's out to prove it.
Thanos isn't my favourite MCU villain (that would be Zemo from Civil War), but he was solidly written... in Infinity War at least.
Batman '66 and the Brave and the Bold cartoon play Batman's character with a hilariously campy angle to make fun of him, which is why those are the only adaptations of Batman I actually like.
He predicted Deadpool 2 100 %
I respect your use of the One Punch Man OST in a video that props it up on an unmountable pedestal and hits anything similar with a serious series serious punch.
Good and entertaining analysis. I think the main problem with the Deadpool movie is that Deadpool acts like that guy who thinks he's really funny, but he just recycles old Dad jokes and thinks talking like a zany cartoon character is the pinnacle of hilarity. It's the kind of humor that only 12 year olds would think is clever, and it's a huge irony that it occurs in an allegedly "adult" movie brimming with sex and profanity.
I'm getting why ER is such respected as a critical voice. I am really enjoying your video's, thank you.
This actually finally got me to watch One punch and I'm loving it so far, dead pool really didnt do it for me either
I just had one comment I wanted to make: Happy isn’t a SHIELD agent, he’s a security guard for Tony Stark who’s clearly not the best at his job but Tony keeps him around because they’re good friends. Which is why he can barely fight one guard while Black Widow takes out like 10
Wow. Hollywood types really like subverting stuff, don't they? Plotlines, society.....