Mark Hamill is one of the real-est actors ever, he's gonna say if he doesn't like something. He did it to TLJ and Disney told him to tone it down, so he came up with passive aggressive "It's the longest one" gag. Mark's a clever dude.
I wanna know why the hell Rey, someone who hasn’t even known Chewie very long, had to translate for Luke..... a very old friend of Chewie’s..... almost insulting
Anakin: literal child of the force, takes 10 years to learn to control his abilities (and then another 3 as a warrior) and still loses to characters like Count Dooku and Obi Wan. Luke: child of prophecy, barely beats Darth Vader in their second encounter after years of training. Rey: random chick who the force calls to because Kylo needed an opposite, wins against or stalemates Kylo in every encounter despite only having even known about the Jedi for less that a week and performs feats we never saw even Yoda do despite him being a prodigy with 900+ years of experience. And here I thought Anakin was Gary Stewish in episode I. Boy was I wrong by comparison.
@@xolotltolox7626 Well a part of the map was with R2-D2, which is actually Luke's droid and friend.. And R2 was with Luke right after his academy burned down, you can see Luke place his hand on R2 in the flash back. So it looks like Luke left at least a piece of the map with R2, like bread crumbs of a trail. So its actually possible that Luke left the map behind, or a piece of it.
It’s also worth noting that Luke didn’t treat his first space battle as him being skilled. He gets excited and shouts “I GOT ONE” implying that he didn’t expect to, and is immediately told to not get cocky by Han
SaturnTubes exactly, and he wasn't pot shoting them at the start of the battle, took a lot of aiming and misfire before lining up and timing perfectly his shot in a gun he clearly wasn't familiar with.
SaturnTubes - That's a really good point. And when has Rey shown even the slightest hint of being excited at some personal triumph? Mostly she just looks bored (with her mouth slightly open; now I can't unsee it). That is, when she's not all frowny-faced and angry while berating some male for not being as awesome as she. Kyros - Another good point. He's a good pilot, good enough to get the torpedo into the exhaust port, but he couldn't save Gold Leader. And he wasn't even good enough to survive on his own: both Wedge and Han have to step in and save him from certain death. Rey? Three TIE fighters in one shot, and that was just her warming up.
The DORUK the last jedi is too. Just not for you and some other people. The internet can’t be happy with what they have because they have to fuck up good stuff. The reason the og trilogy was good was because the story and how there was no internet to fuck it over.
Yoda: "Look beyond this material world, you must. Truth will you find." Feminists: "How dare you puppetsplain to us! We have vaginas!!" Yoda: "Empty, your philosophy is. Ruin franchise, it will."
Oh come on, they were only several football fields away from the rebel base directly in front of an enemy flank of ATATs. Is it really so difficult to believe he dragged her fatass body safely back to base in under a minute???
This. Sheer idealism will accomplish nothing. *Competent* idealism gets something done, if you're lucky. Hope isn't some miraculous substance that exists on its own, it works through people and *things* must be done by actual *people* to make that hope become reality.
Harrison Ford went to George Lucas during the filming of Episode VI and said how we thought it would be best if Han Solo died protecting Luke and Leia to show how far he’d come and how much he cared. George Lucas told him that dead characters don’t sell toys.
How is Mary Sue a sexist term? It's not used at all in a sexist matter, its not used to discriminate against women. It's used for annoyingly perfect female characters, like how Gary Stus are used for annoyingly perfect male characters.
Daisy: "I'm too stupid to know what a Mary-Sue is, and I'm going to call the huge number of fans that use the term a bunch of sexists, because I'm too also bad at marketing."
Kylo Racist Name Wat? There's no truth in anything Daisy has said. Rey is the most Mary-Sue character since the original Mary-Sue, at least in a mainstream film series. She's just too dumb to know what the term means and too lazy to look it up on her phone.
This is a double fuck up because in one scene she is shown clearly being fascinated be the sea and pouring rain. So the movie first acknowledges she is from desert planet... and then forgets about it.
@@Szrama1123 well of course they did how else are you supposed to be expected to forget about it too? Besides how else is Rey supposed to know how to swim?
mojo jojo In the OT, Chewbacca was a: Valuable mechanic that repaired C3-PO Great warrior, that hijacked an AT-ST and saved the battle at the shield generator on Endor A second to Han Solo, that assisted him everywhere from flying the ship to fighting in the halls of the Death Star But yes, a big Teddy Bear.
@Anonymous Cheese Based off the first trailers for TFA I thought that was the direction they were going. Was really disappointed when he didn't end up a jedi
Never before in a movie, tv show, novel, etc. has the lead character ever spoken this out loud. Let alone the sequel! Usually the LEAD CHARACTER is worked out by the start of the second act. This was the moment, right at the start of the movie, where I realized the movie would be woefully unsatisfying and use meta crap to avoid criticism.
@Anonymous Cheese tbh it sound really good, Finn already have that "i was the bad guy but now i am the good guy" story ready to go, and a black jedi would be really cool to see
@Xenovista This girl that I was trying to get at last month in University told me that only men are able to rape, and that women can't rape men or other women. I immediately lost interest in her and didn't ask her on a second date, not that she would say yes after my response to that lol.
the Chinese saying they didn't see TLJ because the cast were "aesthetically displeasing" (aka ugly) is one of the most brutally honest / funniest criticism I've ever heard
You fucking moron. Phasma was brought back because the fans were pissed she was just another Boba Fett and Disney wanted to try to fix that. Sure, it failed, and I'm not defending their handling of her, but get over your insecurities before commenting.
Anytime someone refers to internet trolls, I feel the need to remind people that a corporation with massive resources is far more capable of creating bots/hiring schills to give positive reviews than some random neckbeards are of spamming negative ones
But actually if said corporations want some kind of trend or idea to be buried because it defeats the narrative they want to shine for profit or power, they will also hire people to spam negative reviews.
Akhually... both are equally as powerful. Simply put stupid, angry, misinformed or edgelordy people are countless. And you can't pay that many people before it gets way too much in the open. Bots can be used by all, advantages cancel each other with disadvantages for both groups. In the end, they are usually equal in power only distributed differently. After all,if corpos are so god damn powerful, why do we see such low scores in users for their products? Why not trash those few neckbeards with their might bots? Because they can't. They can pay up reviewers who are generally few, they cannot stop thousands of people. They can't overwrite them with their paid shills. That's why we see 90% reviewer score and 30% user score You live in one of those e;r-mentioned reddit posts.
@@justamanwithsomesoup3352 yeah, she take it just like everything else during the trilogy without earning them, if Ren would've been redirected and they get married then at least she having the skywalker name made sense!
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@@speci4lforce yeah, this trilogy is a patchwork creature like Frankenstein and even more ugly!
I genuinely feel bad for mark hamill. Harrison ford wanted out, George Lucas sold the rights and Carrie fisher died but mark could have been in all the movies with Luke (or his children or relatives) being the center stage of the last trilogy. Mark had a vision and he seemed to be the only person left that had faith in the SW universe up until now. But now till his final breath, he's going to remember how a great story that began his career Destroyed because of politics and crappy writing.
@Marcos Recio Hollywood was never leftist to begin with, they are liberal capitalists that are using this whole Diversity nonsense as a distraction and a smoke screen to cover for their own incompetence and to protect their huge egos. Left and right don't mean anything in the present day. At least, the original definitions don't mean anything.Hollywood shills for coastal capitalists, who tend to be very 'progressive' on social issues. America's elites always had a sense of philanthropy for minorities as well. (Mostly since they make for really good lapdogs to use on mostly white workers.) Basically, cosmopolitanism and liberalism are part of the capitalist agenda. Even a bloated welfare state is part of it. (Have taxpayers absorb the costs of low wages.) It makes perfect sense that the same Hollywood that shills for immigrants and black people would somehow shill for drone-striking arabs and supporting capitalism.
Legit when women do it "you're supposed to like it" or "you KNOW you like it". I've had women even turn into stalkers before... even stalk my friends and social circles or places I've hung out, just appearing every fucking goddamn where... one that was a wiccan (witch religion) even built a shrine for me she said... Yet yknow as a guy its creepy and unnerving for you to just... exist
@@elgatochurro You are a Yandere magnet. Good luck with that, things could potentially get very complicated, & bloody messy (no pun intended) in your future. Best advice, tell the yandere if she really loves you she must prove her eternal love by offing only herself, & no one else.
>Purple Haired feminist takes command of Republic forces >Treats respected Captain (that's a guy) like a child and fails to communicate the plan to him despite the fact he has proven his worth in battle > Proves just because she's a woman doesn't mean she gets to be a Mary Sue hero like Rey >Incompetence as a general costs her most of the resistance but at least has the decency to die for her failure >Asian protagonist dies crashing her vehicle. Hotter sister was more liked despite having far less screen time. >Space Nazis make a comeback from having their base destroyed and achieve a tactical victory at the end of the movie >Two most important characters that have died so far were the White guys Han & Luke and because of their absence everything goes to shit real quick. How is Rian Johnson that big of a SJW when he makes them lose in the end because of their incompetence?
Before anyone tries to argue with Mark Hamil's point about Jedi not giving up by pointing out that Obi-Wan and Yoda hid for twenty years, there's a big difference. Obi-Wan and Yoda knew there was nothing they could do after Palpatine and Vader destroyed the Jedi Order, so they decided to wait until _a new hope_ presented itself. Notice how Obi-Wan was ready to fly to Alderaan the very instant he saw Leia's message and even asked Luke to come with him, and how Yoda started testing Luke the moment they first met to see if he had the patience to learn to be a Jedi.
sikid4000 Because they are honestly stupid... I mean seriously people, every time you try to defend this movie it only shows how much ignorant and desperate you are. Just say you like it in a personal level, then you will only be attacked by assholes.
Okay, so a character that in 3 other movies served as an optimistic protagonist, who in the last movie believing in a person that everyone else thinks is beyond hope and redemption puts himself in not merely mortal but potentially even worse peril for, is standing next to the bed of his nephew. The son of his dear sister and his best friend of many years. He glimpses a possible future with the Force. And this warm, kind, optimist that has been known to see the good in people you would think had none left, his first instict. IS TO KILL HIS NEPHEW! I'm fucking sorry, what! How was this character change established? What happened prior to this singular event that that was enough to push LUKE FUCKING SKYWALKER TO ALMOST KILL HIS NEPHEW?! "This is Jake Skywalker, this isn't my Luke Skywalker" - Mark Hammil There are numerous ways that they could have tried to explain why Luke is in hiding, and they went with an option that utterly betrays the fans, the character and the Actor that has a passion for Star Wars. I suppose that is an achievemnt indeed.
Oh if he went to hiding because of shame that would have been ideal, but that is not what happened now is it, he specifically said he went there to fucking DIE... Besides this is Luke fucking Skywalker, he would rather have a conversation with Ben rather than kill him, not to mention he did it in the most cowardly way possible: While the kid was asleep and Luke was literary going to staved him in the back! You honestly believe that a man like Luke who could see the good inside the most evil creature in the universe being Darth Vader, who was more of a Hitler than bitch Ren there Vader literary killed billions, flooding villages, killing people in hospitals and using the Death Star to wipe out Alderaan.And despite all of that Luke saw the good in him and went out of his way to save his father even if it mean giving up his own life...Not to mention that this is his nephew, his sister and best friend son... Luke cares more about family than anything else... Do honestly believe that he will betray that thing about his character. Besides you said it yourself you are desperate to like this movie... Look sorry but this movie is undefeandable from a professional storytelling point of view, from a Star Wars point of View, and from a movie point of view... You literally have not argument to defend this shitty movie than with your emotional opinions, just like the rest of people who defend this movie... Hey if you like in a personal level, that is fine to each their own taste... But do not come to defend it, you will only suffer and differ until you basically start attacking anyone and act like a cage animal. So....Fuck off will ya!
Apparently strength is using authority to only get your way and doing things that involve strength in the most literal sense as in picking up boulders and winning at swordfights.
Cause they get off seeing women can mess up and yet have everything handed down to them while easily fixing everything ( even while they didn't really do much) and no consequences for their dumb-ass decision making
Well, they like it cause she is strong, i can understand it, powerful woman are not common on movies, But, being strong because you are a fucking deus ex maquina is totally bullllssssshhiiiittt. Strong female that deserves her force -lol- by her on effort>>>>>>>>> Strong female with power outed from her Ass.
@Un-broken and victorious Yup, just it. But most feminists don't care about how something will make the woman stronger, they just want it being bad or not.
Its f**king painful seeing Mark Hamill talking about how he felt about the direction his iconic character went. You can see he wanted to scream in rage about it but instead he was being as polite as he could be.
I feel sorry for Mark Hamil, he puts a lot of heart into the things he does because he knows he can make a lot of people happy with it. And now he had to work on a project that does the exact opposite and he had to call that the "new generation".
If his twitter is anything to go by he's completely capitulated to this idea even if deep down he doesn't want to. I'm convinced his character was bastarized along with Han to make way for the new heroes which going by the main movies and Rogue One it's strong female protagonists
Honestly if the Emp- I mean, First Order, can conquer the galaxy on extremely limited resources, after just suffering a huge and humiliating defeat, all in the span of a few weeks, maybe they deserve to win.
I love how this trilogy has killed off Luke and Han, while their actors are still alive, and then they pulled the stupidest shit just to keep Leia alive, when her actress is dead It's almost like you don't have to pay a dead actor
No you just have to pay a bunch of team leads and comp artists, editors and storyboard artists to make it work. THINK BEFORE YOU SPEAK. GOD DAMN IT THINK BEFORE YOU SPEAK. That said... shit movie. hate the mary sue character and all the useless aimless characters floating about.
To be fair, it would be a disservice to Carrie Fisher to let her character have a meaningless death when she has A) died in real life, and B) Leia has always been an important revolutionary character in universe. Like, I am aware it could have been done better, but it's obvious that when making episode 8 Leia wasn't supposed to die, and that when Carrie did die it was already far too late to try to rework the story to incorporate her death while making it one she deserved. Letting her die off screen is obviously out of the equation, so all they had left was her unused scenes from the previous two movies. Which they absolutely have to include somehow, and then she absolutely has to die in a way that honours who she is, but when all they have left are scenes which were never supposed to lead to her death... Basically, the movies were bad. Leia dying as she did was never part of the plan (largely because there was never actually a plan, but if there had been then her untimely death would have been a major blow), but because she did they really had to just try their best to make her major with what they had. I can't fault them for that. Now, how they handled Luke, Han and Chewbacca (who I still believe was treated the worst of the three), that is something worth complaining about.
Chauncy Raymond It’s probably still cheaper than to higher a living actor.... since you know..... you can make them do what ever you please, plus no issues with arguing over contract terms etc.... so yeah it’s probably cheaper for Disney to still use a dead character
it's really sad to see that Mark Hammil genuinely cared about starwars, the concept of the jedi, and his character- and yet everything he said was pushed aside
It's an encapsulation of this movie: The actor who played and developed through a character for at least three years hates how his character is treated. The people who grew up with and loved that character hate it too. And they are both surrounded by garbage.
How would you react when someone takes the character that you played, cared for and were identified with and makes him a dumb bitch? Sequels should be known as The Tragedy of Mark Hamil.
Hans-Ulrich Rudel bruh, the first one came out in 77 and the last one came out in 83. Make that more like 7 years if you account for all of the production, but he’s pretty much been synonymous with the character Luke Skywalker ever since. It was his crowning achievement, his biggest role, it’s been a huge part of his life for over 40 years and Rian just ripped ass all over it. What sucks is Hamill is legitimately the nicest guy, it’s a shame anyone ever thought to do this to him or that people sat around and watched it happen
Mark Hamill: “Jedi don’t give up, Jedi don’t run away.” Morons: “Uh.... Yoda and Ohbee One?” Literally anyone with four or more brain cells: “Oh, you mean the masters who went into hiding to preserve their knowledge from the all-encompassing empire while they waited for their only two hopes to grow up and be ready to learn, at which point they both came out of hiding to fight again?”
@Heavy Metal Collector the first order is so fucking wierd and nonsensical its hard to understand how the people who wrote this shit could legitimately give less of a fuck about what they are writing lmao. Its goes from fringe rebel group trying to rebuild a long dead empire from the ashes, to dwarfing the now dominant republic so fast its imposible not to ask, how tf where they ever a fringe group if they dominated the entire republic for no good reason in a matter of seconds. Deadass even when they lost all their army, recources and their strongest weapons they still body the republic. Luke knew snoke was not only a sith lord, but actively trying to seduce his young hunky nephew; did he not care that there was a creepy old alien man trying to rebuild an empire by luring in his young aprentices with space candy?Wtf.
I think it's pretty odd that they picked a chick with a posh British accent to play a dirt-poor uneducated desert scavenger, when previously the British accent has been used mostly for Coroscanti or other sophisticated folks like Obi-Wan, Qui-Gon, and Tarkin. But hey, I'm sure Shnoz figured Jedi=Brit
51:31, Finn holds a blaster up to Captain Phasma's head to threaten her, but in The Last Jedi, we clearly see that her armor is blaster-proof. Finn used to work for her. Did he know her armor was blaster proof? Did _she_ know?
All stormtroopers armor is blaster proof to a degree. some of the trooper we seen get him was knock out, knock down, wind knocked out of them from the impact of the blast, others were killed cause the armor was over matched with the power of the blaster or hit in wear points. So even if Fin had it too her head the range of an inch may of over matched it or caused so mucg brain trama she would of died.
I disagree that Katniss is a mary sue because of her bowmanship. She is most definitely one due to having 2 guys swooning over her while having the personality of a cartboard
Very true; a bland or indiscernible personality is definitely one of the most common traits of a Mary Sue. However, Katniss also comes across as a Mary Sue due to her apparent lack of motivation for winning the Hunger Games, aside of course from saving her little sister's life. There's also the fact that she is almost instantly trusted and admired by everyone she meets. Not to mention how Katniss becomes this pure and incorruptible symbol of hope, love, and rebellion against the totalitarian government of her world after winning only one tournament and doing almost nothing to justify that kind of notoriety.
Honestly, the books portray her a tad better in this; in the books the author actually makes clear that Katniss is deeply manipulative, cold and oppertunistic. Her inner thoughts actually give her a lot of depth and make clear that she is entirely out for herself and actually thinks things through a lot, and often thinks on the repercussions her murders have. But that still doesn't change that her outward personality is, in both the books and the movies, fucking cardboard.
@@colers2366 I honestly hated her personality in the book. In the movie she's tolerable but in the book her cold attitude of not being able to make friends and her manipulating Gale to run away with him, lying to Peeta; it just comes off as a bitch to me.
ur meme savior is here that’s what made her interesting, I kind of liked that our hero was a manipulative bitch. So much more realistic. Def not a Mary Sue
Mark prefered George Lucas to make the movie with, than anyone else. This shows how George knows his own franchise better than anyone else (duh). Yet people hate George for the prequel, because these so-called fans think they know the Star Wars franchise better than the very man who created the Star Wars universe himself. They think they know how a Star Wars movie should be, suddenly become a Star Wars expert. I said go eat those di$ney sequel turd.
@@Therizinosaurus George Lucas is also the man who wanted the next films to be about the gang being shrunk down to go into Luke's body and fight some virus. He's also the man who greenlit the Clone Wars tv series, which was about 60% meaningless filler, 25% actual garbage, and 15% gold. He's also the man who caused several promising star wars game projects to be delayed with his executive meddling - yet was 100% behind Star Wars Kinect... I get that sucking off George Lucas is 'hip' with folks now that the mouse is parading the corpse of star wars around, but Ol' Daddy Georgie is full of equally stupid ideas for his franchise, as well as equally capable of snuffing out good ideas for it.
@@brosephnoonan223 Except that he does not make any of those shits you mentioned. George Lucas to Star Wars is like JK Rowling to Harry Potter. You cannot protest, its his creation. What makes you think you are the only qualified Star Wars expert who knows how to make a SW movie than the man who created the universe himself??????
Nicholas Leclerc ha! That was funny! Love Hamill in all his interviews. He tows the line but slips in jibes where appropriate. He knows we still love him
@Not, Not Sure Good, GOD ! I've never received so many likes in all my life ! 11 is not a lot for some, but for me, it is ! Edit : HOLY SHIT 641 LIKES !!!!! 2nd Edit : *_HOLY SHIT 768 LIKES !!!!!!_*
@joseph watson When he signed on for the movies, Lukas was still in charge, then he sold the Star Wars and Hamill along with it. He was under contract, only way out is to break it, and you DO NOT break contracts in the US of A or anywhere else, there is no higher crime in the eyes of the corporate LAW!
@joseph watson According to some leaks the whole GB 2016 thing was because Sony hijacked the project from Reitman's hands and gave it to Feig and because legal bullshit the original actors where obligated to be in it and kinda shill the movie. Pretty obvious if you see Ackroyd before and right after the film released
Maybe she swam in hydro-farms, like those that Luke's aunt and uncle had.... And then this is also on the spice planet from Dune with the giant underground aquifers. Hey maaaaan, that explains [starts spinning the screen] evvvvverythiiing.
Comparing fanfictions to the latest star wars movies is frankly insulting Fanfiction writers actually care about the source, and some of them actually have talent.
Fan-Fiction is cringe lol, it's written by desperate and lonely women wanting to self-insert themselves as the love interest of the main protagonist and/or a cope and justification for the awful writing of the movie, comic, game, etc. their fan-fiction is based off of. In reality, Rian 'Small Hat' Johnson giving a metaphorical middle finger to every single fan-fiction is HYSTERICAL and DESERVED. But still, Disney destroyed Star Wars beyond repair, I've been saying this since 2014 (a whole year before The Farce Engorges).
@@TheAnonymousIndividual Sounds like someone only read the worst of the worst FanFiction and thinks that applies to every single piece of FanFiction ever written
E:R not only did you watch this terrible movie so we didn't have to, you travelled all the way to a movie theatre in some Asian country to do it! You spoil us.
RIP Admiral Ackbar who was instantly substituted by some pink haired woman who couldn't come up with a plan, at least Ackbar knew it was a trap Edit: I didn't know i'd get over 500 likes, thanks guys!
Until a month ago I never knew that it was Admiral Ackbar in either of these two movies... No dialogue or even a good shot at a name tag on a uniform to reveal it, at least not that I noticed... I'll have to watch TFA again I guess. In TLJ he was just referred to as "Admiral" by Leia before they were spaced.
@@dasshaker2372 They do mention it for like 5 seconds, after Leia force flies her way into the ship, they say something like "The whole command including Admiral Ackbar were killed", if i remember correctly
Feshiylife Luke already flew a T-16, which was very similar in controls to an X Wing, and he already has experience flying and shooting small targets like the Death Star hole back in Tatooine. I'd give in to the notion that the Rebellion had no reason to employ him, but my guess was that they were short on pilots and needed every man they could get their hands on. Plus, he already had saved Princess Leia, so she porbably had a hand in allowing the Rebels to trust and take in Luke.
The prequels were never bad. Only low IQ fools that parrot the opinions of Mike Stoklasa hated the prequels, mostly because it was not the same as the OT. Those are the same people that praised TFA, so it is safe to discard their opinions.
I really respect Adam Driver for being a real actor and not letting this one character define his career. It's nice seeing him just being known as Adam Driver and not Kylo.
Luke was raised on a farm, possible home schooled. Rey was abandoned on a desert planet, supposedly. At what age did her keeper, started charger her for food. How did she learn to speak English, droid, and wookie. How was her health and appearance maintained. What's with those arm stocking. Why did her parents trade her for drinking money, if they OWN a spaceship, or possible worked on one. Luke wanted to become a pilot, than a Jedi. Rey was born a pilot and a Jedi, so her only purpose is to be center of attention, and get mothers to buy both boys and girls Star War products.
Plot convenience... I even hate when dnd players make a character without really thinking about how an upbringing might change them... You can really see the difference between people who were raised with a dark hateful upbringing vs those that were sheltered because the sheltered GLORIFY aspects of it... all that EDGE and none of the substance
I think you missed a point about Luke. Luke as a character went to the FUCKING DEATH STAR to rescue the MOST EVIL MAN ALIVE because he SENSED SOME LIGHT SIDE STILL IN HIM. This guy. This fucking character. Heavily considered MURDERING HIS NEPHEW IN HIS SLEEP because he felt the dark side in him. That is the greatest betrayal of the character in my eyes. And I think that is one the reasons why Mark Hamill 'fundamentally disagreed' with the character choices.
Ayy Lmao chopping someone hand off is not the same as killing someon especialy a family member indiana jones will never cry or beg for mercy in a fist fight elen ripley will never leave her love one to save herself and luke skywalker will never kill his family that is what make them being a characer and you better bridge the gap to change that
Well they are definitely not the good guys. Rather manipulative, power hungry cult strong arming the biggest coalition in galaxy. Still better than sith of course. And in many ways... right about stuff. In others blind as a bat or straight up counter-productive.
8:42 there was an important rule in the editing process for the first star wars films that helped them avoid this problem. every new element in a scene was introduced by something before it, so that the audience would always have a sense of familiarity and context while taking in new elements. the droids are introduced by the empire and princess leia scenes, then Luke is introduced after he runs into the droids, who we're already familiar with, and then we meet Obi-wan through Luke, etc. This editing tactic helped make the story easy to follow and made it feel grounded in reality. Everything was connected. The reason this non linear style of editing stands out so much is because it's in a star wars film, where we're unconsciously used to a very different form of storytelling
That's a really good point, modern shows/movies in general seem to have hapazard cuts in their editing which makes following the story very difficult and annoying. It's becoming less like a linear progression of events, each of which furthers the plot and more like a puzzle you need to piece together via multiple re-watches to fully enjoy.
I have been told that quite a few if not all shows and movies in Hollywood practice scrapbooking; they film several cuts and show each individual scene to an audience in a vacuum, and the best picks get Frankenstein’d together and sent to the silver screen. This, obviously, results in storylines that barely make sense, plot hooks being dropped or appearing out of the blue and things being segmented harder than a robot centipede.
I commented negatively online about The Last Jedi. Someone told me to “Shut up old man, you don’t understand this generation.” I’m 19. Odds are that the person calling me old was most likely older than me or at least my age. The Last Jedi sucked. Age has nothing to do with my opinion. The sequels have shit on the characters that I’m watched, read, and played with for years!
lex1247 lol nah, teens are already mostly pretty aware these movies are shit, but as for very later generations... like kids who are 10 now... well we can only hope they look back and realize how shitty these movies are after they grow up. Kinda like how I did. I watched prequels when I was a child, and I liked them. I thought *Anakin* was cool. *Anakin* Then I grew a little older and realized how bad it actually was. HOPEFULLY the same thing happens with these kids. Hopefully.
You're like the only person who even mentions that the resistance should be winning the war, rather than somehow being on the brink of extinction after Episode 7
I mean.. they did specify that the system they destroyed was where the New Republic's government was based... It'd be like nuking D.C. technically we'd still have a government but we'd be hurting hard. Not necessarily defending TLJ, but they kinda did cover this one.
@@themini_b The problem is that I have no idea how big the actual Republic was, they don't even give me any hints in the movies, and forget about anything concrete.
Yes, the original trilogy changed directors but remember those guys were working with each other the entire time, there were all familiar with one another. They even co-wrote the script. They weren't too totally different people like JJ and Rian.
41:10 is just one of the best moments in TH-cam history: the tone of the voice, echo, pacing, etc. are the pure perfection. I can’t resist myself to rewatch this at lest 10 times a week
Most actors will never say anything bad about anything in the movie industry, gotta love Mark for just calling bullshit when he sees it. Also, that is the best fucking description of the problem with mary sues ever.
Actually,many do,we just don't see it THAT often and when it happens...they get pretty...uhn,well,I guess there is no other word,"Opressed" into silence because of contracts,and bla bla bla,and these cases don't get AS famous(Mark's interviews about this only became really Viral once the movie came out and people with the opinion that it was bad did a little searching),these people who talk trash about the industry are forgotten in little to no time.
It’s very sad for him. He signed the contract probably in the hope of having one last special film with the character that made him and that he adores. Then Disney shafted him and forced him to perform the script he hated. Would have been ruined financially if he had refused. So he was held to ransom to bury his character. Soul destroying
To be honest, with all clips I saw about him talking about the new Star wars, it was clear as day that he absolutely despised them, so I'm wondering why he even signed on to be in the new ones. Well, actually, I guess just the paycheck could have been his sole motivation, I don't know how much he made off it, but if he was paid anything substantial in the first film for literally like 3 seconds of screen time then I guess that's still a deal for him
What was even more painful than seeing my childhood hero being character-murdered on the big screen like that, was the reaction of Mark Hamill. Of all the franchises they've burned down in the last decade or so, that broke my heart.
he is literally spouting /pol/ memes throughout the video, though. 32:34 is an infamous Hitler quote about Jews, for example. I don't mind because I don't really like people of the negro persuasion, but you might want to be aware of this.
A Mary Sue is a character without flaws: -They overcome every challenge perfectly on the first try without need for training -Everyone wants to either be their friend or make sweet love with them -Every character that doesn't like them is a one dimensional villain
Is Sheev a mary sue🤔🤔🤔 Btw i have read thousands of fanfics and the most forgotten characteristic of a mary sue is that whem theyre confronted with a supposed great burden they end up resolving it i under a single chapter or sometimes within the very same paragraph
@@nikkovalidor4890 Palpatine failed a lot of his plans (Like DSII's trap, or killing Obi-Wan & Yoda), is hated by pretty much everyone (Even back when he's chancellor) and I don't think Luke's one dimensional. So kinda the exact opposite lmao
I loved the example that you gave, like Iroh sneaking into his nephew's room and making his face symmetrical is one of the best jokes and comparison I've heard by far, nearly killed me and yet it makes so much sense
Well, Leia is a woman, and Han and Luke were men, so therefore to serve the Feminazi agenda, both of them had to die. Also, Leia is General Leia now, not Princess Leia, and was the sole head of the Rebellion, while Han and Luke were deadbeat losers who died alone and broken. It's ok, she did just fine without them anyway. She's a strong, independent woman who don't need no man!
Chronocide to be fair, Carrie Fisher died AFTER this movie was filmed. they had no way of knowing she would die. as far as they knew, she would have been there for episode IX.
The Sue is immunized against all dangers, one may call her too adored, too powerful, too unrealistic, too perfect, it all runs off her like fin running off with a jacket. But call her a sue and you will be astonished in how she recoils, how injured she is, how she suddenly shrinks back: "I've been found out!" - E;R Goebbels
@@legendarymarston9174 "The Jew is immunized against all dangers: one may call him a scoundrel, parasite, swindler, profiteer, it all runs of him like water off a raincoat. But call him a jew and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: 'I've been found out.'" -Joseph Goebbels Hope that answers your question
@@SpekalBoy2000 right, he shudders because now he's going off the the concentration camp where death or slaving their life away awaits You're probably not a Nazi though
Thank God, I accidentally stumbled upon this masterpiece. I haven't laughed so much already for a long time. I'm glad that, besides me, someone else noticed the purest propaganda in the disney trilogy. This was the main purpose of the company, and of course the money.
I love how Mark Hamil was basically doing everything that he could do to undercut the movie that wouldn't get him sued for breach of contract. You can tell that he thinks that it sucks ass.
It looks like he is enjoying make a game out of it. It's fun for him to see how much he can encode his disdain for the movie in a manner that doesn't get him blackballed from Hollywood or sued.
Link He signed on originally thinking he was going to be working with Lucas. When Disney bought Lucasfilm he was still contractually obligated to be in a new Star Wars film. Yeah he got a shit ton of money but clearly he hated the direction Disney, Kathleen Kennedy, and Rian Johnson took the character of Luke who meant more to him than money.
he had to retract himself once. You cant have an opinion like a normal human being once you are under a contract it seems. Disney will not let its money get reduced by truth.
I always imagined that him/Luke dies equates to Disney firing him, for constantly dissing their direction publicly. I mean did you see the face he makes on the press release when he just stared in shock to Rian? It's like his death wasn't even in the script he got.
34:00 - Rey is a white girl with perfect hair, all her shiny white teeth, well-hydrated skin and no scars, body marks, tattoos, or other signs of having grown up living on her own, in poverty, as a scavenger, essentially homeless & surrounded by low-lifes, who speaks in refined, received pronunciation English with a posh accent, because... she's _not_ a Mary Sue? Have you _met_ homeless people? Anyone who ever lived in the desert?
+トロール Isn't it the liberal youth that glorify the concept of voluntary homelessness and vagrancy, while still going to expensive coffee shops and getting expensive haircuts?
I suspect both actresses were considered for both parts and If that is the case, they made the wrong one. Jyn isn't a better character, shes got all the mary sue qualities and zero depth but Felicity Jones is better, as she can act and is likable.
I love how Mark Hamill can't get himself to praise the movie "Oh it's the longest one"
Gnasni
Well, he is an actor, not a pornstar. That's clearly the wrong priority.
He hated the movie the moment he read the script
Mark Hamill is one of the real-est actors ever, he's gonna say if he doesn't like something. He did it to TLJ and Disney told him to tone it down, so he came up with passive aggressive "It's the longest one" gag. Mark's a clever dude.
It is *long*
Longer than was neccessary...
I wanna know why the hell Rey, someone who hasn’t even known Chewie very long, had to translate for Luke..... a very old friend of Chewie’s..... almost insulting
How would she even know how to speak Wookie as well 🤷♂️
Can anyone say MaRey-Sue?
@@KGDanny02 nice
Typical sjws
IS insulting
Anakin: literal child of the force, takes 10 years to learn to control his abilities (and then another 3 as a warrior) and still loses to characters like Count Dooku and Obi Wan.
Luke: child of prophecy, barely beats Darth Vader in their second encounter after years of training.
Rey: random chick who the force calls to because Kylo needed an opposite, wins against or stalemates Kylo in every encounter despite only having even known about the Jedi for less that a week and performs feats we never saw even Yoda do despite him being a prodigy with 900+ years of experience.
And here I thought Anakin was Gary Stewish in episode I. Boy was I wrong by comparison.
not by comparison. You were wrong period.
@@Drawing4Justice Please. Explain.
@@Drawing4Justice yeah what are you talking about?
caffineandshiny Anakin is not a Mary sure. As simple as that.
@@Drawing4Justice yes, but he did say episode 1, and only a little bit
>Doesn’t wanna be found
>Leaves map that leads to him anyways
Luke’s acting like a teenage girl
>whines when he's finally found using his own map
He is not like other girls
Y'all sound very creepy
Luke didn't leave the map behind, it's never established where they got that map from, or how they even know it leads to luke
@@xolotltolox7626 Well a part of the map was with R2-D2, which is actually Luke's droid and friend.. And R2 was with Luke right after his academy burned down, you can see Luke place his hand on R2 in the flash back. So it looks like Luke left at least a piece of the map with R2, like bread crumbs of a trail. So its actually possible that Luke left the map behind, or a piece of it.
It’s also worth noting that Luke didn’t treat his first space battle as him being skilled. He gets excited and shouts “I GOT ONE” implying that he didn’t expect to, and is immediately told to not get cocky by Han
SaturnTubes exactly, and he wasn't pot shoting them at the start of the battle, took a lot of aiming and misfire before lining up and timing perfectly his shot in a gun he clearly wasn't familiar with.
SaturnTubes - That's a really good point. And when has Rey shown even the slightest hint of being excited at some personal triumph? Mostly she just looks bored (with her mouth slightly open; now I can't unsee it). That is, when she's not all frowny-faced and angry while berating some male for not being as awesome as she.
Kyros - Another good point. He's a good pilot, good enough to get the torpedo into the exhaust port, but he couldn't save Gold Leader. And he wasn't even good enough to survive on his own: both Wedge and Han have to step in and save him from certain death. Rey? Three TIE fighters in one shot, and that was just her warming up.
guys i just disassempled a jet and became an expert pilot
SaturnTubes yeah yknow... LIKE AN ACTUAL CHARACTER WOULD DO?
Let's not forget that pilots probably got told by Vader not to shoot down the falcon just give them a scare or something.
Mark Hamill embodies us all.
AlternateHistoryHub hi
Can you do a "what if the last jedi didn't suck"
AlternateHistoryHub the hell are you doing here of all places on the internet?
What're you doing here
Oh shit we got AHH here
The best thing about The Last Jedi was watching a 1 hour and 15 minute long critique video about how bad the last jedi is.
Laughing Octopus If you liked this, give MauLer's three-part review a go. And his rant before that :)
Laughing Octopus its gonna be better when Mr Plinkett reviews it.
Laughing Octopus true dat
Kelvin Reyes Nah, I'm tired of his try hard forced parodies. I actually prefer MauLer over Plinkett now
No jokes, I don't regret watching this pile of crap now thanks to this video. Thanks E;R
I like how kylo literally used a burning cross to cut down a black man
look up the satanic cross, ahem, it's Kylos' sabre.
@Noon @Veltiant1 I'm not sure if you people just pretending to not see, but I believe, the burning cross is "white robes society" reference. 😉
Finn died for their [Ryan & J.J.] sins.
@Noon St. Peter
Adam driver was in a movie about the kkk
I’m writing this at 4:27 in the morning
rip star trek
Fab what u doing here? Aint your discord good enut yet? (You shall never find me)
F A B
StarTrek is; at least; *endurable*
STD?
The DORUK Star Trek is communist propaganda.
The DORUK the last jedi is too. Just not for you and some other people. The internet can’t be happy with what they have because they have to fuck up good stuff. The reason the og trilogy was good was because the story and how there was no internet to fuck it over.
whenever i see those "the force is female" shirts i always think back to yoda saying "luminous beings are we, not this crude matter."
TaverensPull it shows u there mindset. It's why Rey is a Mary sue. If they were for equality those shirts would be "force is everyone"
Yoda: "Look beyond this material world, you must. Truth will you find."
Feminists: "How dare you puppetsplain to us! We have vaginas!!"
Yoda: "Empty, your philosophy is. Ruin franchise, it will."
I always think; "If that's the case why does Leia only use it once."
If they really wanted to grasp the message it would be "You are the force."
TaverensPull Wait, that's a thing that exists?
Can we also note the fact that Finn dragged an injured Rose across a salt field? He was, quite literally, rubbing salt in her wounds.
The Skeptical Christian THANK YOU AND GOOD NIGHT!
haha holy shit your right. How the fuck did he cover that distance anyways, he was over an hours walk away by that point?
Oh come on, they were only several football fields away from the rebel base directly in front of an enemy flank of ATATs. Is it really so difficult to believe he dragged her fatass body safely back to base in under a minute???
The Skeptical Christian ROFLMAO. xD
The Skeptical Christian I hope it hurt her then. She deserves nothing less.
There's a saying in the military I've heard a few times: "Hope is not a battle plan."
Imagine a star destroyer doing orbital bombardment and the resistance/or rebellion just shouting HOPE HOPE HOPE MUST NOT DIE!!!!!
@@chokoloteblack9328 yeah their hope will die with them
True. But a battle plan creates hope. If there is zero hope, that's a good indication that perhaps your boss has no battle plan either.
Its an okay medical plan.
This. Sheer idealism will accomplish nothing. *Competent* idealism gets something done, if you're lucky. Hope isn't some miraculous substance that exists on its own, it works through people and *things* must be done by actual *people* to make that hope become reality.
TLJ is racist. The only asian woman can't drive and violently crashes into someone by changing lanes too quickly. Johnson should be ashamed.
Jacob F 😂😂😂
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And then she tries to rape Finn. Everyone knows women can't rape, so therefore, TLJ is also sexist.
Hahahaha🤣🤣🤣😂😂🙏🏼
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And now...The Rise of Skywalker.
I'm more excited for the E;R review on it than the movie itself.
Oh man, he's gonna absolutely rape that movie after it comes out!
Don't forget Jedi Party 2: Episode 7: Annihilation
Ikr!
Same
@Heavy Metal Collector At this point, Shyamalan would be an improvement.
Harrison Ford's near desperate hysteria to get his character killed off makes a lot more sense now. He saw it coming.
He probably has the Force in real life. His career has been really stellar despite his lack of soft skills.
Actually, he hates Han Solo. He wanted him to die in Ep V
Harrison Ford went to George Lucas during the filming of Episode VI and said how we thought it would be best if Han Solo died protecting Luke and Leia to show how far he’d come and how much he cared. George Lucas told him that dead characters don’t sell toys.
Just like how he predicted that Greedo would shoot him if he didn't shoot first.
he has been playing the long con
Why I love Mark:" We're all assuming that I train Rey." He did not say "Luke trains Rey". He is so connected to the character.
And also “I was the most optimistic character”
Heart-warming.
And he deserves so much better
Like Bruce Wayne and Batman
I love how people, like Daisy, think that the argument of "I find the term Mary-sue sexist" is equivalent to 'checkmate.'
Dielan Island "I'm offended" "your racist" "your sexist" is the counterargument of people with no counterargument.
Daisy is as good as her acting. She got lucky to be in SW
How is Mary Sue a sexist term? It's not used at all in a sexist matter, its not used to discriminate against women. It's used for annoyingly perfect female characters, like how Gary Stus are used for annoyingly perfect male characters.
Daisy: "I'm too stupid to know what a Mary-Sue is, and I'm going to call the huge number of fans that use the term a bunch of sexists, because I'm too also bad at marketing."
Kylo Racist Name
Wat? There's no truth in anything Daisy has said. Rey is the most Mary-Sue character since the original Mary-Sue, at least in a mainstream film series. She's just too dumb to know what the term means and too lazy to look it up on her phone.
how can rey even swim (in the cave)? she spent her whole life on a DESERT planet
This is a double fuck up because in one scene she is shown clearly being fascinated be the sea and pouring rain. So the movie first acknowledges she is from desert planet... and then forgets about it.
@@Szrama1123 well of course they did how else are you supposed to be expected to forget about it too? Besides how else is Rey supposed to know how to swim?
May Ray Sue
one should have stopped wondering such things 30 mins into the last film
Mah-REY-SUE
So sad Chewie was reduced to an intergalactic Uber driver in TLJ
And pathetic comic relief. Who cares about his relationships with major characters? Let him play with porgs.
mojo jojo
In the OT, Chewbacca was a:
Valuable mechanic that repaired C3-PO
Great warrior, that hijacked an AT-ST and saved the battle at the shield generator on Endor
A second to Han Solo, that assisted him everywhere from flying the ship to fighting in the halls of the Death Star
But yes, a big Teddy Bear.
@@devynd6476 Big Roosey bOI
lol
Oh God. U made my day🤣🤣🤣
"I need someone to show me my place." -Rey
Couldn't agree more.
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Kinky
@Anonymous Cheese Based off the first trailers for TFA I thought that was the direction they were going. Was really disappointed when he didn't end up a jedi
Never before in a movie, tv show, novel, etc. has the lead character ever spoken this out loud. Let alone the sequel! Usually the LEAD CHARACTER is worked out by the start of the second act. This was the moment, right at the start of the movie, where I realized the movie would be woefully unsatisfying and use meta crap to avoid criticism.
@Anonymous Cheese tbh it sound really good, Finn already have that "i was the bad guy but now i am the good guy" story ready to go, and a black jedi would be really cool to see
Rose sexually assualted Finn
His look of horror when that fat, ugly, stupid bitch smooched him after getting all their friends killed.
@Xenovista
This girl that I was trying to get at last month in University told me that only men are able to rape, and that women can't rape men or other women. I immediately lost interest in her and didn't ask her on a second date, not that she would say yes after my response to that lol.
The Crystal Gems would be proud.
@@pnp072000Good for you. She's clearly either delusional, stupid, or both.
WorldWalker128 I just call it liberal.
the Chinese saying they didn't see TLJ because the cast were "aesthetically displeasing" (aka ugly) is one of the most brutally honest / funniest criticism I've ever heard
Steve S Daisy Ridley is hot af lmao but the Chinese are incredibly racist, so they prolly don’t like Poe and Finn
@@Basketballerphx The Chinese are indoctrinated in their school years and even before that; with undying loyalty to CHINA.
They're messed up for that. 😂
They are also extremely racist so
@Enclave Soldier Are you kidding me? I'm a straight girl, and even I know she's gorgeous. 💜
Phasma didn't get fired for turning off the shields on Starkiller Base because the First Order has a gender quota to fill.
You fucking moron. Phasma was brought back because the fans were pissed she was just another Boba Fett and Disney wanted to try to fix that. Sure, it failed, and I'm not defending their handling of her, but get over your insecurities before commenting.
Zalty It was a joke you dumbass.
Ah, I see. In that case, I retract my statement. It's just hard to tell around here when people are serious with their criticisms or not.
Zalty Emo much?
Allen Whitaker Emo? Nah, just fed up.
Anytime someone refers to internet trolls, I feel the need to remind people that a corporation with massive resources is far more capable of creating bots/hiring schills to give positive reviews than some random neckbeards are of spamming negative ones
This.
But actually if said corporations want some kind of trend or idea to be buried because it defeats the narrative they want to shine for profit or power, they will also hire people to spam negative reviews.
Also applies to the political arena
Protectect that honest edgelord all the cost!
Akhually... both are equally as powerful. Simply put stupid, angry, misinformed or edgelordy people are countless. And you can't pay that many people before it gets way too much in the open. Bots can be used by all, advantages cancel each other with disadvantages for both groups.
In the end, they are usually equal in power only distributed differently.
After all,if corpos are so god damn powerful, why do we see such low scores in users for their products? Why not trash those few neckbeards with their might bots?
Because they can't.
They can pay up reviewers who are generally few, they cannot stop thousands of people. They can't overwrite them with their paid shills.
That's why we see 90% reviewer score and 30% user score
You live in one of those e;r-mentioned reddit posts.
“For once, Rey isn’t related to anyone important”
Rise of Skywalker: You sure about that?
Guess. Fucking. What. SHE. AINT. A. SKYWALKER
I know. I was referring to Palpatine
@@justamanwithsomesoup3352 yeah, she take it just like everything else during the trilogy without earning them, if Ren would've been redirected and they get married then at least she having the skywalker name made sense!
@@speci4lforce yeah, this trilogy is a patchwork creature like Frankenstein and even more ugly!
@@justamanwithsomesoup3352 "Who are you?"
"I'm Rey...Rey Skywalker."
I genuinely feel bad for mark hamill. Harrison ford wanted out, George Lucas sold the rights and Carrie fisher died but mark could have been in all the movies with Luke (or his children or relatives) being the center stage of the last trilogy. Mark had a vision and he seemed to be the only person left that had faith in the SW universe up until now. But now till his final breath, he's going to remember how a great story that began his career Destroyed because of politics and crappy writing.
Jujubeans hes still a SJW dumbass. Even after Disney raped his character
how is he an sjw dumbass?
Malal he back tracked on everything he said, and supports the leftist shithole that is modern hollywood
@Marcos Recio
Hollywood was never leftist to begin with, they are liberal capitalists that are using this whole Diversity nonsense as a distraction and a smoke screen to cover for their own incompetence and to protect their huge egos.
Left and right don't mean anything in the present day. At least, the original definitions don't mean anything.Hollywood shills for coastal capitalists, who tend to be very 'progressive' on social issues. America's elites always had a sense of philanthropy for minorities as well. (Mostly since they make for really good lapdogs to use on mostly white workers.)
Basically, cosmopolitanism and liberalism are part of the capitalist agenda. Even a bloated welfare state is part of it. (Have taxpayers absorb the costs of low wages.) It makes perfect sense that the same Hollywood that shills for immigrants and black people would somehow shill for drone-striking arabs and supporting capitalism.
“So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause.”
why no one ever adress the fact that rose totaly sexualy assaulted finn? XD
Legit when women do it "you're supposed to like it" or "you KNOW you like it". I've had women even turn into stalkers before... even stalk my friends and social circles or places I've hung out, just appearing every fucking goddamn where... one that was a wiccan (witch religion) even built a shrine for me she said...
Yet yknow as a guy its creepy and unnerving for you to just... exist
cuz she lives in recruit difficulty
Nobody cares about men
Because of double standards and normalized misandry
@@elgatochurro You are a Yandere magnet. Good luck with that, things could potentially get very complicated, & bloody messy (no pun intended) in your future.
Best advice, tell the yandere if she really loves you she must prove her eternal love by offing only herself, & no one else.
"No, Poe you faggot it too risky" most outta pocket line I ever heard in Star Wars history
@Oggy Booga maa mannn
Not to mention Fin and Rose left child slaves behind, while they were patting themselves on the back for temporarily freeing the horse dogs.
I watched the movie on Blu-Ray. I laughed hard at the entire movie. I treated it like Sharknado and Rose was hilarious.
An accurate representation of liberals and veganism.
>Purple Haired feminist takes command of Republic forces
>Treats respected Captain (that's a guy) like a child and fails to communicate the plan to him despite the fact he has proven his worth in battle
> Proves just because she's a woman doesn't mean she gets to be a Mary Sue hero like Rey
>Incompetence as a general costs her most of the resistance but at least has the decency to die for her failure
>Asian protagonist dies crashing her vehicle. Hotter sister was more liked despite having far less screen time.
>Space Nazis make a comeback from having their base destroyed and achieve a tactical victory at the end of the movie
>Two most important characters that have died so far were the White guys Han & Luke and because of their absence everything goes to shit real quick.
How is Rian Johnson that big of a SJW when he makes them lose in the end because of their incompetence?
cookumms
For bonus points: Who do you think needs to clean up the mess the animals made?
Yep. That part still makes me mad.. seriously? Why not free both the kids and the animals?
Before anyone tries to argue with Mark Hamil's point about Jedi not giving up by pointing out that Obi-Wan and Yoda hid for twenty years, there's a big difference. Obi-Wan and Yoda knew there was nothing they could do after Palpatine and Vader destroyed the Jedi Order, so they decided to wait until _a new hope_ presented itself. Notice how Obi-Wan was ready to fly to Alderaan the very instant he saw Leia's message and even asked Luke to come with him, and how Yoda started testing Luke the moment they first met to see if he had the patience to learn to be a Jedi.
Dr Shaym Exactly. I don't understand why people even try to make that easily debunkable argument.
Back then, Jedi Masters had to survive to actually train people fully. Yoda couldn't train Luke if he got killed first.
sikid4000
Because they are honestly stupid... I mean seriously people, every time you try to defend this movie it only shows how much ignorant and desperate you are.
Just say you like it in a personal level, then you will only be attacked by assholes.
Okay, so a character that in 3 other movies served as an optimistic protagonist, who in the last movie believing in a person that everyone else thinks is beyond hope and redemption puts himself in not merely mortal but potentially even worse peril for, is standing next to the bed of his nephew. The son of his dear sister and his best friend of many years. He glimpses a possible future with the Force.
And this warm, kind, optimist that has been known to see the good in people you would think had none left, his first instict. IS TO KILL HIS NEPHEW!
I'm fucking sorry, what! How was this character change established? What happened prior to this singular event that that was enough to push LUKE FUCKING SKYWALKER TO ALMOST KILL HIS NEPHEW?!
"This is Jake Skywalker, this isn't my Luke Skywalker" - Mark Hammil
There are numerous ways that they could have tried to explain why Luke is in hiding, and they went with an option that utterly betrays the fans, the character and the Actor that has a passion for Star Wars. I suppose that is an achievemnt indeed.
Oh if he went to hiding because of shame that would have been ideal, but that is not what happened now is it, he specifically said he went there to fucking DIE... Besides this is Luke fucking Skywalker, he would rather have a conversation with Ben rather than kill him, not to mention he did it in the most cowardly way possible: While the kid was asleep and Luke was literary going to staved him in the back!
You honestly believe that a man like Luke who could see the good inside the most evil creature in the universe being Darth Vader, who was more of a Hitler than bitch Ren there Vader literary killed billions, flooding villages, killing people in hospitals and using the Death Star to wipe out Alderaan.And despite all of that Luke saw the good in him and went out of his way to save his father even if it mean giving up his own life...Not to mention that this is his nephew, his sister and best friend son... Luke cares more about family than anything else... Do honestly believe that he will betray that thing about his character.
Besides you said it yourself you are desperate to like this movie... Look sorry but this movie is undefeandable from a professional storytelling point of view, from a Star Wars point of View, and from a movie point of view... You literally have not argument to defend this shitty movie than with your emotional opinions, just like the rest of people who defend this movie... Hey if you like in a personal level, that is fine to each their own taste... But do not come to defend it, you will only suffer and differ until you basically start attacking anyone and act like a cage animal.
So....Fuck off will ya!
I love how feminists praise this movie for having strong female character, when all I see are bad decisions made by female characters.
Apparently strength is using authority to only get your way and doing things that involve strength in the most literal sense as in picking up boulders and winning at swordfights.
Cause they get off seeing women can mess up and yet have everything handed down to them while easily fixing everything ( even while they didn't really do much) and no consequences for their dumb-ass decision making
Well, they like it cause she is strong, i can understand it, powerful woman are not common on movies, But, being strong because you are a fucking deus ex maquina is totally bullllssssshhiiiittt.
Strong female that deserves her force -lol- by her on effort>>>>>>>>> Strong female with power outed from her Ass.
@Un-broken and victorious Yup, just it. But most feminists don't care about how something will make the woman stronger, they just want it being bad or not.
@Un-broken and victorious Say this to rebbeca sugar...
Its f**king painful seeing Mark Hamill talking about how he felt about the direction his iconic character went. You can see he wanted to scream in rage about it but instead he was being as polite as he could be.
As an actor, it churns my heart
That's some Jedi level restraint.
The OT crew doesn't get one fucking scene together in the whole sequel trilogy. What...the...fuck?!
He controlled his inner Joker trapped within him (if you know what I mean)
@@v2153 and now it could never happen again. They squandered their one chance in the universe to have all the OT characters back tofether
"where da white woman at?" im dying
David Rosas Ikr! :)
Damn, he thirsty!
Chewie: You're coming with us
Rey: He says you're coming with us
Chewie: b**CH HE HEARD ME
Gold XD
I feel sorry for Mark Hamil, he puts a lot of heart into the things he does because he knows he can make a lot of people happy with it. And now he had to work on a project that does the exact opposite and he had to call that the "new generation".
XFanmarX they had no plan. At least bearded fat boy thought about his trilogy arc on the toilet more than once.
If his twitter is anything to go by he's completely capitulated to this idea even if deep down he doesn't want to. I'm convinced his character was bastarized along with Han to make way for the new heroes which going by the main movies and Rogue One it's strong female protagonists
I'd feel sorry for him if he wasn't a cunt
Said new generation consists of manly women and soy boys.
If the series is going to implode, may as well get paid. It's dead now. The past is dead and the future is dead. The story is trapped.
Honestly if the Emp- I mean, First Order, can conquer the galaxy on extremely limited resources, after just suffering a huge and humiliating defeat, all in the span of a few weeks, maybe they deserve to win.
I love how this trilogy has killed off Luke and Han, while their actors are still alive, and then they pulled the stupidest shit just to keep Leia alive, when her actress is dead
It's almost like you don't have to pay a dead actor
I never thought about that. Disney doing some shady business
It all makes sense
No you just have to pay a bunch of team leads and comp artists, editors and storyboard artists to make it work. THINK BEFORE YOU SPEAK. GOD DAMN IT THINK BEFORE YOU SPEAK.
That said... shit movie. hate the mary sue character and all the useless aimless characters floating about.
To be fair, it would be a disservice to Carrie Fisher to let her character have a meaningless death when she has A) died in real life, and B) Leia has always been an important revolutionary character in universe.
Like, I am aware it could have been done better, but it's obvious that when making episode 8 Leia wasn't supposed to die, and that when Carrie did die it was already far too late to try to rework the story to incorporate her death while making it one she deserved.
Letting her die off screen is obviously out of the equation, so all they had left was her unused scenes from the previous two movies. Which they absolutely have to include somehow, and then she absolutely has to die in a way that honours who she is, but when all they have left are scenes which were never supposed to lead to her death...
Basically, the movies were bad. Leia dying as she did was never part of the plan (largely because there was never actually a plan, but if there had been then her untimely death would have been a major blow), but because she did they really had to just try their best to make her major with what they had. I can't fault them for that.
Now, how they handled Luke, Han and Chewbacca (who I still believe was treated the worst of the three), that is something worth complaining about.
Chauncy Raymond
It’s probably still cheaper than to higher a living actor.... since you know..... you can make them do what ever you please, plus no issues with arguing over contract terms etc.... so yeah it’s probably cheaper for Disney to still use a dead character
it's really sad to see that Mark Hammil genuinely cared about starwars, the concept of the jedi, and his character- and yet everything he said was pushed aside
It's an encapsulation of this movie: The actor who played and developed through a character for at least three years hates how his character is treated. The people who grew up with and loved that character hate it too.
And they are both surrounded by garbage.
@@hans-ulrickalbright4867 You could say the same thing for European culture
Brian II Don't let Dark Lizard Goddess Merkel catch you saying that.
How would you react when someone takes the character that you played, cared for and were identified with and makes him a dumb bitch?
Sequels should be known as The Tragedy of Mark Hamil.
Hans-Ulrich Rudel bruh, the first one came out in 77 and the last one came out in 83. Make that more like 7 years if you account for all of the production, but he’s pretty much been synonymous with the character Luke Skywalker ever since. It was his crowning achievement, his biggest role, it’s been a huge part of his life for over 40 years and Rian just ripped ass all over it. What sucks is Hamill is legitimately the nicest guy, it’s a shame anyone ever thought to do this to him or that people sat around and watched it happen
This is better than the actual movie.
Havne't watched it yet. I'll go get some popcorn.
I could nail my foreskin to a rusty sheet of iron and it would be better than the actual movie
@@rossholt9352 that.....that's the most beautiful review of this movie.
John Smith waaaaay better
And yogi is also smarter than the average bear.
45:16 I’m sorry, Poe should get an award just for this scene. I can actually feel his internal screaming while Holdo is yammering,
_"I need someone...to show me my place."_
STAR WARS: RETURN TO THE KITCHEN
I am rolling on the floor laughing
it's her natural place
Lmao same “THERE’S A GOOD GIRL”
In other words... ROFL
Chop chop lol
The Rebellion was doing much better until Princess Leia spend their whole budget on nose candy.
Mark Hamill shitting on those Disney abominations is the best.
Totally agree, Han and Alex are/were dicks. Mark has always been my favorite on and off screen. RIP Carrie Fisher, another gem.
He is one of the first true fans.
@@Deadly_NightkidYou're an idiot.
"The fight against the elite guards was fun."
*Shadiversity screaming intensifies*
Give him a break, not everyone knows about this stuff 😂 although the fight scene was insulting after the prequels gave us those treasures.
@@miguelmontenegro3520 ah yes spinning is a good trick
@@Mordoras1379 Did you want a boy to pilot like an airforce officer?
@@miguelmontenegro3520 I'm talking about the crappy over choreographed lightsaber fights
And anakin should be dead not destroy a whole lucrehulk
That was the worst fight I’ve seen in years. Perhaps it’s because I like actual Kung fu movies.
"She learned everything in an hour and a half" well when you have horrible choreography yeah its easy. Those wide uncontrollable swings
Mark Hamill: “Jedi don’t give up, Jedi don’t run away.”
Morons: “Uh.... Yoda and Ohbee One?”
Literally anyone with four or more brain cells: “Oh, you mean the masters who went into hiding to preserve their knowledge from the all-encompassing empire while they waited for their only two hopes to grow up and be ready to learn, at which point they both came out of hiding to fight again?”
Pretty much the Lore explain that surviving Jedi went exile because the Empire literally hunt them.
@Heavy Metal Collector the first order is so fucking wierd and nonsensical its hard to understand how the people who wrote this shit could legitimately give less of a fuck about what they are writing lmao. Its goes from fringe rebel group trying to rebuild a long dead empire from the ashes, to dwarfing the now dominant republic so fast its imposible not to ask, how tf where they ever a fringe group if they dominated the entire republic for no good reason in a matter of seconds. Deadass even when they lost all their army, recources and their strongest weapons they still body the republic.
Luke knew snoke was not only a sith lord, but actively trying to seduce his young hunky nephew; did he not care that there was a creepy old alien man trying to rebuild an empire by luring in his young aprentices with space candy?Wtf.
*Obi Wan
Francis Board Coppola
“Yes, I know.”
I was trying to make a point by purposefully misspelling.
@@GigaChadh976 Perceptive one are we? Lol. You see the words but fail to grasp the meaning. Context is important, always.
*"Bitch, he heard me."*
_- Chewbacca, former-war-hero-turned-glorified-Uber-driver_
It would've been nice if Luke said something like, "I know what he said." Back to Ray.
@@doolittlecraftsmann302 and how does Ray know how to speak Wookie in the first place?
@@butthz8850 How would I know?
You can literally see the hatred Mark has for this film in his eyes.
+NOT Charmander a bit of a odd thing I noticed but Mark Hamill's older appearance looks like slavoj zizek. ;_;
Or like E;R said, the guy is just tired.
I think it's pretty odd that they picked a chick with a posh British accent to play a dirt-poor uneducated desert scavenger, when previously the British accent has been used mostly for Coroscanti or other sophisticated folks like Obi-Wan, Qui-Gon, and Tarkin. But hey, I'm sure Shnoz figured Jedi=Brit
I read this whole thing, and all I can think about are Snozzberries, and if they taste like Snozzberries.
J
E wwwww
The lead in SW has always been an American. JJ's first crime.
@@phonepunk7888 Hayden is Canadian and Ewan is Scottish. What the hell are you talking about? Google is your friend.
@@footychat3992 Ewan was not the lead.
"If we let our enemies kill us, we win"
- Rice, 2017
“Rice” Lol 😂
*rose
Raven Whiteduck *rice
To steal a quote from someone else:
"It's good and original, but the good parts aren't original, and the original parts aren't good."
GO AWAY NOW!
Damn... That wordsmithing though. 👌
Delta 118 huh?
Good one!
I remember seeing that in a video which one was it
I found the name of Episode 9.
Episode 7: The Force Awakens
Episode 8: The Last Jedi
Episode 9: From His Nap
Episode 10: Stol
Episode 11: en
Episode 12: Joke
This whole thing had me dead lol
And it was all a dream
hahahahahahahaha xdddddddddddd original af
just as original as the force awakens
now we just wait for a real jedi
Luke also missed multiple times before he hit the ties, while Rey only tries once.
Also how did Rose even get there, she was somehow ahead of Finn, even though we saw everyone turn around in their speeders?
Pft. Who needs supplies, allies weapons, training, stable command structure, and morale when you have
*P L O T A R M O R*
51:31, Finn holds a blaster up to Captain Phasma's head to threaten her, but in The Last Jedi, we clearly see that her armor is blaster-proof. Finn used to work for her. Did he know her armor was blaster proof? Did _she_ know?
Dr Shaym - 37:38
The Phasma v Finn side plot (or lack there of) was the worst thing since my son.
He’s pointing at her eye/neck, where the helmet leaves a gap
All stormtroopers armor is blaster proof to a degree. some of the trooper we seen get him was knock out, knock down, wind knocked out of them from the impact of the blast, others were killed cause the armor was over matched with the power of the blaster or hit in wear points. So even if Fin had it too her head the range of an inch may of over matched it or caused so mucg brain trama she would of died.
Lord Renek Gamer that makes absolutely no sense, if so why not just wait to shoot her till she gets close when fin faught her in TLJ?
The Virgin twenty minute review vs The Chad hour & fifteen minute review
big papa top kek
Nice Twitter post
What do you call mauler's 5 hour review?
Follow me @BigSkoot trabuco9
Don’t forget the “offensive” jokes, this makes it a 100% Chad!
It's been 4 years and I still crack up every time he says "Goy Boy". This video has aged like wine.
Watching this video now is a completely different experience to when I first watched it
I disagree that Katniss is a mary sue because of her bowmanship. She is most definitely one due to having 2 guys swooning over her while having the personality of a cartboard
Very true; a bland or indiscernible personality is definitely one of the most common traits of a Mary Sue. However, Katniss also comes across as a Mary Sue due to her apparent lack of motivation for winning the Hunger Games, aside of course from saving her little sister's life. There's also the fact that she is almost instantly trusted and admired by everyone she meets. Not to mention how Katniss becomes this pure and incorruptible symbol of hope, love, and rebellion against the totalitarian government of her world after winning only one tournament and doing almost nothing to justify that kind of notoriety.
Honestly, the books portray her a tad better in this; in the books the author actually makes clear that Katniss is deeply manipulative, cold and oppertunistic. Her inner thoughts actually give her a lot of depth and make clear that she is entirely out for herself and actually thinks things through a lot, and often thinks on the repercussions her murders have. But that still doesn't change that her outward personality is, in both the books and the movies, fucking cardboard.
Yeah but she looks like Jennifer Lawrence. In a dingy post-apocalyptic hellhole, I'm surprised the entire district didn't want to date her.
@@colers2366 I honestly hated her personality in the book. In the movie she's tolerable but in the book her cold attitude of not being able to make friends and her manipulating Gale to run away with him, lying to Peeta; it just comes off as a bitch to me.
ur meme savior is here that’s what made her interesting, I kind of liked that our hero was a manipulative bitch. So much more realistic. Def not a Mary Sue
"You have no place in this story. You're nothing... But not to me"
*muh-rey-SPLOOSH*
+B T like... :puts on sunglasses:... 'Me And Michael'
When the actor understands his character better than the directer and writer. You know they are truly "one in 3,720."
Twinkle toes
Mark prefered George Lucas to make the movie with, than anyone else. This shows how George knows his own franchise better than anyone else (duh). Yet people hate George for the prequel, because these so-called fans think they know the Star Wars franchise better than the very man who created the Star Wars universe himself. They think they know how a Star Wars movie should be, suddenly become a Star Wars expert.
I said go eat those di$ney sequel turd.
@@Therizinosaurus
George Lucas is also the man who wanted the next films to be about the gang being shrunk down to go into Luke's body and fight some virus. He's also the man who greenlit the Clone Wars tv series, which was about 60% meaningless filler, 25% actual garbage, and 15% gold. He's also the man who caused several promising star wars game projects to be delayed with his executive meddling - yet was 100% behind Star Wars Kinect...
I get that sucking off George Lucas is 'hip' with folks now that the mouse is parading the corpse of star wars around, but Ol' Daddy Georgie is full of equally stupid ideas for his franchise, as well as equally capable of snuffing out good ideas for it.
@@brosephnoonan223 Except that he does not make any of those shits you mentioned. George Lucas to Star Wars is like JK Rowling to Harry Potter. You cannot protest, its his creation. What makes you think you are the only qualified Star Wars expert who knows how to make a SW movie than the man who created the universe himself??????
Fancy seeing you here my man yowlife
"I need someone... to show me my place..."
S T A R
RETURN TO THE KITCHEN
W A R S
LOL I'm dead!
They were basically asking for that joke
CHOP CHOP
@@travisadams6279 Theres a good girl
@@squarek123 More like begging on their hands and knees
I wouldn't mind a short about a Jedi chef.
2:47
Random asker: “How is this movie any different from the others ?”
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Mark Hamil (Luke): “It’s longer.”
😂🤣😂😂🤣👏👏😭😭👏🤣😂
Nicholas Leclerc ha! That was funny! Love Hamill in all his interviews. He tows the line but slips in jibes where appropriate. He knows we still love him
@Not, Not Sure
Good, GOD ! I've never received so many likes in all my life ! 11 is not a lot for some, but for me, it is !
Edit : HOLY SHIT 641 LIKES !!!!!
2nd Edit : *_HOLY SHIT 768 LIKES !!!!!!_*
@joseph watson When he signed on for the movies, Lukas was still in charge, then he sold the Star Wars and Hamill along with it. He was under contract, only way out is to break it, and you DO NOT break contracts in the US of A or anywhere else, there is no higher crime in the eyes of the corporate LAW!
Bet he wanted to say "it sucks"
@joseph watson According to some leaks the whole GB 2016 thing was because Sony hijacked the project from Reitman's hands and gave it to Feig and because legal bullshit the original actors where obligated to be in it and kinda shill the movie. Pretty obvious if you see Ackroyd before and right after the film released
How is it different? Its longer... Mark Hamil is a fucking legend!
i lost it when he said it for the second time.
It's something what Divine Rod would say :/
It’s longer ?
“ *No..... no, that’s im..POssible !!! Noooo !!!* * wincing in pain *”
He trolled Rian and Disney perfectly.
You left out this part; Mary Sue who grew up on a desert planet magically knows how to swim.
lukewarm17 Wow you're right lol
lukewarm17 You know that such a basic skill I didn’t even notice that
Maybe she swam in hydro-farms, like those that Luke's aunt and uncle had.... And then this is also on the spice planet from Dune with the giant underground aquifers. Hey maaaaan, that explains [starts spinning the screen] evvvvverythiiing.
FlashyHippie that sounds so much like an Adum gag
Do Oasis's exist on Tatooine and Jakku?
Comparing fanfictions to the latest star wars movies is frankly insulting
Fanfiction writers actually care about the source, and some of them actually have talent.
Ive read crack fics with better writing than this trilogy
@Anakin Skywalker CW
If you think the billions of fanfics made are all terrible then you aren’t very smart
Hard to imagine most fan fiction writers would allow Rey/Han to finish each other's sentences the way they do in TFA. That's hack writing.
Fan-Fiction is cringe lol, it's written by desperate and lonely women wanting to self-insert themselves as the love interest of the main protagonist and/or a cope and justification for the awful writing of the movie, comic, game, etc. their fan-fiction is based off of. In reality, Rian 'Small Hat' Johnson giving a metaphorical middle finger to every single fan-fiction is HYSTERICAL and DESERVED. But still, Disney destroyed Star Wars beyond repair, I've been saying this since 2014 (a whole year before The Farce Engorges).
@@TheAnonymousIndividual
Sounds like someone only read the worst of the worst FanFiction and thinks that applies to every single piece of FanFiction ever written
E:R not only did you watch this terrible movie so we didn't have to, you travelled all the way to a movie theatre in some Asian country to do it! You spoil us.
He is the TH-camr TH-cam deserves but not the one it need's right now.
I watched it with no expectations of the movie at all. I came out disappointed.
Hi Crow.
Poor guy, must have paid so much for the ticket :/
That's E;R, not E:R.
RIP Admiral Ackbar who was instantly substituted by some pink haired woman who couldn't come up with a plan, at least Ackbar knew it was a trap
Edit: I didn't know i'd get over 500 likes, thanks guys!
Until a month ago I never knew that it was Admiral Ackbar in either of these two movies... No dialogue or even a good shot at a name tag on a uniform to reveal it, at least not that I noticed... I'll have to watch TFA again I guess. In TLJ he was just referred to as "Admiral" by Leia before they were spaced.
@@dasshaker2372 They do mention it for like 5 seconds, after Leia force flies her way into the ship, they say something like "The whole command including Admiral Ackbar were killed", if i remember correctly
@@TheSenate6666 You're right. I had to check a minute ago, it's just before they introduce the incompetent Admiral. He deserved better.
Feshiylife Luke already flew a T-16, which was very similar in controls to an X Wing, and he already has experience flying and shooting small targets like the Death Star hole back in Tatooine. I'd give in to the notion that the Rebellion had no reason to employ him, but my guess was that they were short on pilots and needed every man they could get their hands on. Plus, he already had saved Princess Leia, so she porbably had a hand in allowing the Rebels to trust and take in Luke.
@Feshiylife "if people in movies acted logically they would be boring"
Are you rian Johnson?
The sequels made me fall in love with the prequels.
Exactly. Now we can realize they make sense.
The prequels were never bad. Only low IQ fools that parrot the opinions of Mike Stoklasa hated the prequels, mostly because it was not the same as the OT. Those are the same people that praised TFA, so it is safe to discard their opinions.
@@comicsans1689 they aren't great either tbh. Episode III is good.
@BleepingRelics I can agree with that. Personally, Episode III was my favorite Star Wars movie.
Luke Creed they make the prequels look like The Godfather
Ngl Adam Driver and Mark feel like the only actors that are trying
Cmon Andy Serkis is giving it his all
@@bRETTfAVREatgbnyjmni Andy Serkis is always great
@@yooooo8600 oh yeah I was so interested in his character. Then they killed him and ruined it
I really respect Adam Driver for being a real actor and not letting this one character define his career. It's nice seeing him just being known as Adam Driver and not Kylo.
Yeah Adam definitely got out the best from these films, and by that I mean he never refers to them ever lol
Luke was raised on a farm, possible home schooled. Rey was abandoned on a desert planet, supposedly. At what age did her keeper, started charger her for food. How did she learn to speak English, droid, and wookie. How was her health and appearance maintained. What's with those arm stocking. Why did her parents trade her for drinking money, if they OWN a spaceship, or possible worked on one. Luke wanted to become a pilot, than a Jedi. Rey was born a pilot and a Jedi, so her only purpose is to be center of attention, and get mothers to buy both boys and girls Star War products.
Plot convenience... I even hate when dnd players make a character without really thinking about how an upbringing might change them...
You can really see the difference between people who were raised with a dark hateful upbringing vs those that were sheltered because the sheltered GLORIFY aspects of it... all that EDGE and none of the substance
jmac2050 The arm stockings are for covering up Daisy's psoriasis. No joke, poor her and everyone with it, I don't wanna be an arse about it.
Luke destroyed the death start without pilot training or force training
@@guairefernandezamil4084 don't know what movie you saw
She has as much depth as a drop of water.
I think you missed a point about Luke.
Luke as a character went to the FUCKING DEATH STAR to rescue the MOST EVIL MAN ALIVE because he SENSED SOME LIGHT SIDE STILL IN HIM.
This guy. This fucking character.
Heavily considered MURDERING HIS NEPHEW IN HIS SLEEP because he felt the dark side in him.
That is the greatest betrayal of the character in my eyes. And I think that is one the reasons why Mark Hamill 'fundamentally disagreed' with the character choices.
Miralage And pretty hypocritical considering Luke almost killed his dad after he used the dark side to beat him.
Ayy Lmao chopping someone hand off is not the same as killing someon especialy a family member
indiana jones will never cry or beg for mercy in a fist fight
elen ripley will never leave her love one to save herself
and luke skywalker will never kill his family
that is what make them being a characer and you better bridge the gap to change that
momiji lily I’m not talking about chopping his dads hand off, Luke was tempted by the dark side in that duel.
The Ghost of Gotham The second half of your post could be cut off and nothing of value would be lost.
That pissed me off so much, there was no way in Hell Luke would do a 180 like that, especially with the flimsy ass reasons that they gave.
"Luke takes Rey aside and reads her a Reddit post about how the Jedi are actually the bad guys." Geniusly accurate description.
How do I find this reddit post? I love this shit, (good guys being the bad guys) and have to read it.
@@doolittlecraftsmann302 I mean there are plenty of videos and posts kind of going devil’s advocate for the sith and trashing the Jedi for a while.
@@doolittlecraftsmann302 Going on about how villains were right, they always are.
Well they are definitely not the good guys. Rather manipulative, power hungry cult strong arming the biggest coalition in galaxy. Still better than sith of course. And in many ways... right about stuff. In others blind as a bat or straight up counter-productive.
You love those ACKTUALLY morons who just want the fake internet points to feel validated and ‘intelligent’
8:42 there was an important rule in the editing process for the first star wars films that helped them avoid this problem. every new element in a scene was introduced by something before it, so that the audience would always have a sense of familiarity and context while taking in new elements. the droids are introduced by the empire and princess leia scenes, then Luke is introduced after he runs into the droids, who we're already familiar with, and then we meet Obi-wan through Luke, etc. This editing tactic helped make the story easy to follow and made it feel grounded in reality. Everything was connected. The reason this non linear style of editing stands out so much is because it's in a star wars film, where we're unconsciously used to a very different form of storytelling
That's a really good point, modern shows/movies in general seem to have hapazard cuts in their editing which makes following the story very difficult and annoying.
It's becoming less like a linear progression of events, each of which furthers the plot and more like a puzzle you need to piece together via multiple re-watches to fully enjoy.
I have been told that quite a few if not all shows and movies in Hollywood practice scrapbooking; they film several cuts and show each individual scene to an audience in a vacuum, and the best picks get Frankenstein’d together and sent to the silver screen. This, obviously, results in storylines that barely make sense, plot hooks being dropped or appearing out of the blue and things being segmented harder than a robot centipede.
I commented negatively online about The Last Jedi. Someone told me to “Shut up old man, you don’t understand this generation.” I’m 19. Odds are that the person calling me old was most likely older than me or at least my age. The Last Jedi sucked. Age has nothing to do with my opinion. The sequels have shit on the characters that I’m watched, read, and played with for years!
Shut up young man, you don't understand this generation.
Bob Woggle You’re right.
Dylan Lewis God, I know this feel. Nobody called me a sexist or old man for thinking Pokemon Black and White > Pokemon Sun and Moon!
I'm 38...but reading this post makes me think there is hope yet for young SW fan that haven't fallen into Disney's trap. Maybe just maybe...
lex1247 lol nah, teens are already mostly pretty aware these movies are shit, but as for very later generations... like kids who are 10 now... well we can only hope they look back and realize how shitty these movies are after they grow up. Kinda like how I did. I watched prequels when I was a child, and I liked them. I thought *Anakin* was cool. *Anakin*
Then I grew a little older and realized how bad it actually was. HOPEFULLY the same thing happens with these kids. Hopefully.
You're like the only person who even mentions that the resistance should be winning the war, rather than somehow being on the brink of extinction after Episode 7
I mean.. they did specify that the system they destroyed was where the New Republic's government was based... It'd be like nuking D.C. technically we'd still have a government but we'd be hurting hard. Not necessarily defending TLJ, but they kinda did cover this one.
@@themini_b The US consists of more than just Washington DC, you know that right? They really aren't going to collapse when their capital gets nuked.
@@themini_b The problem is that I have no idea how big the actual Republic was, they don't even give me any hints in the movies, and forget about anything concrete.
@@-JaggedGrace- Exactly. And there in lies a major problem in the world building, or lack thereof.
*Your hate has made you powerful*
ִ too powerful
Your profile made me think i had a hair on my phone lol
Dude your profile picture made me thing for a second that I had a hair on my screen XD
I originally read that as #ShitMasterrace XD
ִ I thought your profile was a hair on my screen
Yes, the original trilogy changed directors but remember those guys were working with each other the entire time, there were all familiar with one another. They even co-wrote the script. They weren't too totally different people like JJ and Rian.
"She is a genetic dead end, tho." I almost hit the floor.
53:49
>The Sue is immunized against all dangers
That one got me good
Zeem haha me too! Immediately liked the video after I heard that!
Zeem didn't you notice "Gradually, I began to hate them"
+robin brojber
Well, I'm not THAT well-versed in propaganda literature. Good catch, though.
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"Last Jedi" is a masterpiece. An ode to failure. Rian Johnson is a genius, of failure. Best failed movie of the last decade.
Dont you mean worst failed.
Zoltan Z but its so bad that its the best failed movie
41:10 is just one of the best moments in TH-cam history: the tone of the voice, echo, pacing, etc. are the pure perfection. I can’t resist myself to rewatch this at lest 10 times a week
Most actors will never say anything bad about anything in the movie industry, gotta love Mark for just calling bullshit when he sees it.
Also, that is the best fucking description of the problem with mary sues ever.
serioush what about Robert Pattinson?
Actually,many do,we just don't see it THAT often and when it happens...they get pretty...uhn,well,I guess there is no other word,"Opressed" into silence because of contracts,and bla bla bla,and these cases don't get AS famous(Mark's interviews about this only became really Viral once the movie came out and people with the opinion that it was bad did a little searching),these people who talk trash about the industry are forgotten in little to no time.
Mark was sooo salty about how they treated Luke...he was in a tough spot
For damn good reason too
24:51
He is so brutally honest, its hilarious: 'it's longer"
It’s very sad for him. He signed the contract probably in the hope of having one last special film with the character that made him and that he adores.
Then Disney shafted him and forced him to perform the script he hated. Would have been ruined financially if he had refused.
So he was held to ransom to bury his character. Soul destroying
To be honest, with all clips I saw about him talking about the new Star wars, it was clear as day that he absolutely despised them, so I'm wondering why he even signed on to be in the new ones.
Well, actually, I guess just the paycheck could have been his sole motivation, I don't know how much he made off it, but if he was paid anything substantial in the first film for literally like 3 seconds of screen time then I guess that's still a deal for him
"did you just assume we need a plan". Absolute mad man xD
Go mansplain somewhere else!
AHAHAHA absolut mad lad lol
Im the Admiral now and YOU GOTTA DEAL WITH IT
Good old "Admiral Genderstudies"!
Not only that he gets fucking shot afterwards. Lel
What was even more painful than seeing my childhood hero being character-murdered on the big screen like that, was the reaction of Mark Hamill. Of all the franchises they've burned down in the last decade or so, that broke my heart.
29:24 “I’m rooting for the space Nazis now.” Is that what the media was freaking out about?
😂
No it was probably the many shots at Jewish people.
@Sándor Tóth BOI Youre Hungarian
Nem hittem volna hogy találok E;R nézőt ily módon
he is literally spouting /pol/ memes throughout the video, though. 32:34 is an infamous Hitler quote about Jews, for example.
I don't mind because I don't really like people of the negro persuasion, but you might want to be aware of this.
@@migkillerphantom "I dont really like people of the negro persuasion" lmfao what the actual fuck.
A Mary Sue is a character without flaws:
-They overcome every challenge perfectly on the first try without need for training
-Everyone wants to either be their friend or make sweet love with them
-Every character that doesn't like them is a one dimensional villain
we already knew tom cruise was a Mary
Is Sheev a mary sue🤔🤔🤔
Btw i have read thousands of fanfics and the most forgotten characteristic of a mary sue is that whem theyre confronted with a supposed great burden they end up resolving it i under a single chapter or sometimes within the very same paragraph
Yes, Palpatine is an evil Mary Sue who got the death he deserved, and finally fell a long way down.
@@nikkovalidor4890 Palpatine failed a lot of his plans (Like DSII's trap, or killing Obi-Wan & Yoda), is hated by pretty much everyone (Even back when he's chancellor) and I don't think Luke's one dimensional. So kinda the exact opposite lmao
@@tragedyplustime8271 hes a anti sue
Dude, your video editing skills and humour are top notch.
He's the best ever at end!
I loved the example that you gave, like Iroh sneaking into his nephew's room and making his face symmetrical is one of the best jokes and comparison I've heard by far, nearly killed me and yet it makes so much sense
I like it how Finn imediatly closed his mouth before Rose had a chance to put her tongue inside
Not gonna lie, I think he looked appalled by the kiss
He racist
@@faselessnobuddy what
Id be down for a kiss from Rose, no homo.
@I tru fax. In many Asian countries, the women want half white babies, for social status.
47:51 "The choreography is fine, creative."
Shadiversity: Lemme stop ya right there.
Shadiversity just completely annihilated that choreography
Or every one with eyes
E;R did say on Twitter that he regrets saying that.
@@quplet even a black neonazi like e;r can change
Shadiversity: *laughter* you dumb bitch (meme, if I need to point that out)
Mark Hamill wasn't this screwed over in a movie since he was in the Guyver in 1991
DoctorZack no shit huh
That movie was awesome shut the fuck up!
nyo
Well, here he turned into a cockroach too, but this time figuratively.
I watched The Guyver on VHS back in 1993. I do not remember a single fucking second of it, and I assume that that's for the better.
Imagine hiring a "Martial Arts Master" to teach someone how to swing a lightsaber like a 10 year old with a baseball bat.
E;R, you forgot the best part of the throne room scene. Rey can make weapons disappear.
deathsdoor07
And if you take ten seconds to check the choreography, you realize none of them have any idea what they’re doing.
@@SchneeflockeMonsoon I never said they did.
deathsdoor07
I know. I was adding to your excellent comment.
@@SchneeflockeMonsoon the people doing the choreo had to find a way to fill in the beats Kylo and rey missed
SavageChewBaka plus I doubt those stuntmen could even fucking see through those stupid fucking visorless helmets
So, kill off a character who's actor is still alive while keeping a character whose actor has died......wtf?
Well, Leia is a woman, and Han and Luke were men, so therefore to serve the Feminazi agenda, both of them had to die. Also, Leia is General Leia now, not Princess Leia, and was the sole head of the Rebellion, while Han and Luke were deadbeat losers who died alone and broken. It's ok, she did just fine without them anyway. She's a strong, independent woman who don't need no man!
Carrie Fisher died after the movie product was finished. Unexpected.
Don't worry, CGI Carrie Fisher will never leave us.
Chronocide to be fair, Carrie Fisher died AFTER this movie was filmed. they had no way of knowing she would die. as far as they knew, she would have been there for episode IX.
Chronocide
Because Carie Fisher is a woman
The Sue is immunized against all dangers, one may call her too adored, too powerful, too unrealistic, too perfect, it all runs off her like fin running off with a jacket. But call her a sue and you will be astonished in how she recoils, how injured she is, how she suddenly shrinks back: "I've been found out!" - E;R Goebbels
What was the original quote from Goebbels about?
@@legendarymarston9174 "The Jew is immunized against all dangers:
one may call him a scoundrel, parasite, swindler, profiteer, it all runs of him like water off a raincoat. But call him a jew and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: 'I've been found out.'" -Joseph Goebbels
Hope that answers your question
@@SpekalBoy2000 right, he shudders because now he's going off the the concentration camp where death or slaving their life away awaits
You're probably not a Nazi though
Ayo red and basedpilled
@@satisfactioninajar7668 and these work camps were joyous places of sunshine and laughter weren't they?
Thank God, I accidentally stumbled upon this masterpiece.
I haven't laughed so much already for a long time. I'm glad that, besides me, someone else noticed the purest propaganda in the disney trilogy. This was the main purpose of the company, and of course the money.
I love how Mark Hamil was basically doing everything that he could do to undercut the movie that wouldn't get him sued for breach of contract. You can tell that he thinks that it sucks ass.
Haha, yet his lust for money overcame the hate.
It looks like he is enjoying make a game out of it. It's fun for him to see how much he can encode his disdain for the movie in a manner that doesn't get him blackballed from Hollywood or sued.
Link He signed on originally thinking he was going to be working with Lucas. When Disney bought Lucasfilm he was still contractually obligated to be in a new Star Wars film. Yeah he got a shit ton of money but clearly he hated the direction Disney, Kathleen Kennedy, and Rian Johnson took the character of Luke who meant more to him than money.
he had to retract himself once. You cant have an opinion like a normal human being once you are under a contract it seems. Disney will not let its money get reduced by truth.
I always imagined that him/Luke dies equates to Disney firing him, for constantly dissing their direction publicly. I mean did you see the face he makes on the press release when he just stared in shock to Rian? It's like his death wasn't even in the script he got.
34:00 - Rey is a white girl with perfect hair, all her shiny white teeth, well-hydrated skin and no scars, body marks, tattoos, or other signs of having grown up living on her own, in poverty, as a scavenger, essentially homeless & surrounded by low-lifes, who speaks in refined, received pronunciation English with a posh accent, because... she's _not_ a Mary Sue?
Have you _met_ homeless people? Anyone who ever lived in the desert?
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Isn't it the liberal youth that glorify the concept of voluntary homelessness and vagrancy, while still going to expensive coffee shops and getting expensive haircuts?
posh? she sounds like she comes from kent. middle class drama school that's what her accent is. not RP.
I almost wonder if her and Jyn Erso should've switched places
I suspect both actresses were considered for both parts and If that is the case, they made the wrong one. Jyn isn't a better character, shes got all the mary sue qualities and zero depth but Felicity Jones is better, as she can act and is likable.
Steve of Unknown Kadath I don't think that that factors into her being a Mary Sue, it's just lazy writing and acting. =|
27:43 "Why didn't they let Leia die, they got rid off Han and Luke"
Because... Leia is not a white cis male like Han and Luke.
Or they have a way to make double look and sound like an original, so... Welcome to the age of digital necromancy, I guess.
My guess is because both Harrison Ford and Mark Hamill are still alive and bounded by contract, so making a digital double would be more expensive.
But they had a Korean woman in the movie! That makes it perfect!
Seeing the pirated version used for clips is just pure art. Amazing video.