I love it when Danny can give Kudos to a Design Engineer! Especially in the Layout of Crossovers! There can almost always be better Component Replacements when they are held to a Production Price Point!
I have seen some interviews with the designer of these speakers. He seems like a really good dude! Good job Monoprice! I’m sure the better quality crossover parts are going to make these fantastic! So refreshing to see Danny give props where props are due 🔈👍🏻
3-way crossovers with decent components can get HUGE! I suggest mounting the parts to a decorative piece of wood on the outside of the box and hanging them on the wall behind the speaker or mounting them to the side of the cabinet as a conversation piece. The atmos speakers are designed to reflect off a ceiling for "effects." I doubt the response matters much for that. In fact, I think a full-range driver with a lot of controlled directivity would probably be best for this purpose.
@@dannyrichie9743 no problem let’s do this something broken usually problem from the manufacturing process in its initial design. It’s not skewing any data I build my own speakers from scratch and cross overs and everything so I don’t have this problem that manufactures have I can spend all the money I want to and take all the time I want to But I do have a set of speakers that were a big box name production that were one of my sons, and we were into Electronics and modifying things, and we were going to modify the speakers . Unfortunately, my son passed away and I’m actually going to send one of the speakers to Danny. It’s a tower speaker very well known on the lower high volume end. All right, basically know exactly what Dan he’s going to do to my speaker that I will send them to him . I’m gonna ask him to do a modification to cut off the frequency at the bottom, and to get rid of some inherent problems with the speakers from the manufacture. Because they’re only gonna be used with ad on subwoofers somewhere else in the room I want those lower frequency removed from the woofers from the Tony cabinet that I have. In the crossover is gonna be so huge and big. It’s not physically possible for it to fit inside the cabinet. . So it will be mounted on the rear exterior . And then I will take my measurements with the components. Danny has chosen and compare them with my crossover that I manufacture for the same unit. . Basically, I’m paying Danny to teach me to get better by doing apples to apples comparison on the same device . Are mini brand new speakers have a lot of design defects that if you have a good systems, you can hear if you have good ears .
@@matthewtaylor7355 amir is a piece of work himself. He does not even follow the set up and design and test procedures of equipment that he’s testing often. One of the biggest joke tests that he ever published online, and in Stereo forms, was on the pass labs little amp camp Explicitly, in all the ads and in the instructions, and on the online stereo forms, this little amp was not intended for four ohm loads But what did Admir do? He tested it on a four ohm speaker 🤣 And the person who built the camp camp for him, use the wrong power supply. And then he published results that were quite negative of course. He’s a stubborn and intelligent as a log 🪵 He just know how to use test equipment and that’s what his life involves around . A mirror is to watch for a comical release. If you like the Three Stooges, or watching homer Simpson Aamir is a good representation of the same level of technical competency when it comes to running his test, yes to narrowly focused and totally ignores all the important stuff. . And then, when it doesn’t test correctly, he blames it on the equipment when he is the technical defect himself. Amir literally causes his own problems . And then post it on forms 🤦♂️.
Is it only Texans who give overwhelming praise in such an underwhelming manner? 'Not bad' means really GOOD! My deceased father-in-law was from West 'flat land' Texas. We witnessed a 'not bad' sighting of a UFO. I asked if he had ever seen anything like that?. 'Nope.' Then we sailed on home. No other comments were made. That level of rectitude is impossible for me to attain.
In Arthur C. Clarke's Space Odyssey series, Monoliths are machines in black cuboids whose sides extend in the precise ratio of 1: 4: 9 built by an unseen extraterrestrial species whom Clarke dubbed the Firstborn and who he suggests are the earliest highly intelligent species to evolve in the Milky Way.
Oh man. I was just talking with my friends the other day and spectral decay and stored energy in woofers came up. And now look. Heres your video. Small world...small world.
The thing you have to be very careful with about Monoprice (and other wholesale places like them) is that they will not give schematics even if requested and getting replacement parts will be difficult to impossible. They try to make up for this with a decent warranty period, but they want everything sent back to them for repair at your expense with no guarantee on time. When the warranty ends, so does parts availability.
Crossover space - and anyone looking to retain the Atmos driver can always mount Danny's entire new crossover in a separate box external to the speaker. I'll be doing that (in one system/setup) just to show-off the Crossover! But seriously, just buy the 2-way Monolith mini bookshelf speaker in this same line and get way better Atmos performance, plus be able to place the height speaker in a better firing location/angle.
I have enjoyed my Encore T6 and C6 for a while .. I would be delighted to update to the THX series for my front stage ..and keep the Encore for the rear and height =)
My Polk bookshelf speakers have a similar curved shape. I'm assuming that this is to avoid standing waves that could appear inside a rectangular box. Would be really interesting to see a test of how much difference it makes.
Monoprice holds the title of being the worst etailer customer service experience I've ever had. Very long story short, the product I received did not match the photos. It took them over a month to respond to me, they argued that I was wrong, then wanted me to pay return shipping! They have some good products, but I learned not to spend more with them than I'm willing to lose.
Instead of trying to split the crossover up jamming it into a tight space that may impact reflections, why not just make an external crossover box for it? What is taking the driver out the top going to do to the response curve, if you measured with it in there?
So nice to hear an engineer give solid props to another. With most of these videos, all you hear is crap on most models. Danny must have neen REALLY impressed to give this kind of respect. Of course Danny is here to sell parts and designs...theres nothing wrong with that. That's what hes in business for, but mad props to him for his honesty.
Upgrades are really about 5 to 10% of our business. We do it for fun and as a service to our customers. It also really helps bring new people into the DIY area of the market, and a lot of people have been real interested in watching the upgrade videos.
The way that parts of a cone respond is clearly not simple. In fact, it would take a partial differential equation. However, the way the whole cone responds is much simpler. f=ma and f= dl • i x B So if the cone weighs more a stronger magnetic field or more windings on the voice coil is needed to make sure that the motor and not spring is moving the cone. Hint set the right part of both equations equal to each other to eliminate f.
Man listen I have their THX subs and I was going to get the THX line from monoprice based on ErinAudiocorner Kliplel measurements but instead decided to go with the big boys NX-Tremes couldn’t be any more happy thank u Danny for creating an amazing speaker now only waiting for the matching center
You know Danny, as impressed as you are it would seem to me that you might consider sending them an Atta Boy and Politely tell them you had a chance to do some work on one of their speakers for a customer and let them know about the connections and the metal affecting their design. They might not realize this issue and correct their subsequent models.
Hey Danny how do we attain your services to upgrade our speakers? Do we send the speakers to you personally or buy kits from you and Do it ourselves…… I’m confused
Step one is to send in one of your speakers. We measure and test them to see what's going on and then give you the measurements, feedback, and recommendations. What we do after that is up to you.
I am a bit confused as to why the owner even bought this speaker in the first place. He doesn't want to use the height speakers and is basically just going to mod it. Why not just buy one of Danny's kits?
Why does he hate steel parts so much? Can someone exlain or provide some source of this information? It's a serious question, i would like to study the subject..
God video as always Danny, could you give a answer to my question, would non magnetic Nuts like stainless steel be ok , I have not been able to find brass or copper due to all the stores never have any due to people stealing.
@@dannyrichie9743 thank you Danny for your reply and expertise, I was raised in a audiophile home with some of the old guys as my fathers friends. It griped me that I could not find simple brass or copper nuts here in Los Angeles because because there stolen . On another note hopefully I get my boat sold and purchase your open baffle system ,can't keep my mind off of them 🥂
Is this a legit MTM design? If it is it has a typical midrange lobbing which, if done right, delivers superb midrange. Easiest way to tell is the vertical sweet spot is very narrow. Not too many classic MTM designs and they are badly missed.
Monolith has been around for a number of years now (I’m gonna guess around 7), but since they’re HT-centric, I can see why you might not have heard about them. Danny, question: your measurements don’t seem to take into account how speakers perform at loud volumes. Is there a reason for that? It’s not a dig at all. My guess is that this is largely a function of the drivers, so whether they do well loud or not is beyond the scope of what your upgrades are intended for.
High volume testing is not something we do and it is not done as any kind of industry standard. Speakers will typically retain a pretty linear response (the same response) as power increases right up to the point to where they are over driven.
Kudos where it’s due. Good for you, Danny and great job by the designer. But I do prefer the big fix videos, so awaiting the next Klipsch / B&W speaker !
@@dannyrichie9743 Well yes, by definition, ... ie., linear until being over-driven! Compression is huge. I'm particularly sensitive to the various penalties that accompany compression. How well a driver converts drive current to propagating energy is vital. It's lossy, ... a sliding scale of lossyness. Leveraging physical and electrical resonances, load angle, ... all to perform mutually well within a specific operating range (which is key). One example being a "pro" type driver for midbass. Most every strong performing subwoofer is easily bested by supplementing the system via mid bass modules. They're simply two different tasks. - Since the deep stuff is off loaded, it doesn't need a 20hz Fs. - higher Fs can employ a coincident impedance peak, thus dramatically lowering current pulled from the amplifier. - with lower VC current, typically less inductance, eliciting greater speed and bandwidth, plus lower mms, yielding higher sensitivity. The superb JBL 15"s in their two-way studio monitors, are killer at bass tone, texture, and speed. However, tasked with LFE bottom octaves, no bueno. Similarly, my quad Fi IB3-18" IB, is really compromised in its upper octave reproduction. Not sure how I got here ... Nice vid Much appreciated
The fact somebody sent it in for "Improvements" tells the true story, doesn't it? Other key deception words: THX in the model "number" and Danny says, these are good for theater. He didn't say music. Watch out is all I can say. It's also sus that the atmos speaker measured poorly, yet, you are paying for it and that was almost ignored.
Do I think Monoprice sucks? Not at all. I'm sitting here with two of the Monolith subs. One Monoprice 5 channel Amp and speakers in the way. I live the value you get along with the quality of their products.
Danny complains about poor quality parts... Which he conveniently will charge a huge mark up for to replace.. The parts cost cents to make in China... Like the speakers
Buyer BEWARE anything Monoprice. IF your item breaks after 30 days they 'guarantee a one year replacement'...... only if the item is in stock. If your item is discontinued or out of stock Monoprice will have the nerve to offer store credit. Just another cheap Chinese company.
Please look inside your Klipsch and try not to laugh when you see the crossover components or lack of compared to this well designed but value driven speaker. Then again, if you like horn speakers originally intended for PA use, then great crossover components won't matter much except resistors for that katana sharp tweeter 😂
Crossover can be modified, isn't GR doing same thing just for $300 each? So you can do it too if you know what are you doing but Klipsh woofers and enclosure are much higher level, just add your moded Crossover and you're done.
I love it when Danny can give Kudos to a Design Engineer! Especially in the Layout of Crossovers! There can almost always be better Component Replacements when they are held to a Production Price Point!
Monolith is very impressive for the price as they are designed by the same guy who did Arendal and now Perlisten. Top notch quality all around.
What's his name? He's a guy to watch.
I have seen some interviews with the designer of these speakers. He seems like a really good dude! Good job Monoprice! I’m sure the better quality crossover parts are going to make these fantastic! So refreshing to see Danny give props where props are due 🔈👍🏻
Who is the designer, and where can I see the interview?
@@stcredzero I’m sorry I don’t remember the TH-cam channel. It may have been Genes channel Audioholics. I’m pretty sure it was
With this video, Danny is responsible for at least 10000 units being sold in the next few weeks, let alone his own upgrade kits.
This knock test of yours was brining me back to the time I had a pair of Klipsch RF62. My knock tests back then produced a tone very much alike.
3-way crossovers with decent components can get HUGE! I suggest mounting the parts to a decorative piece of wood on the outside of the box and hanging them on the wall behind the speaker or mounting them to the side of the cabinet as a conversation piece.
The atmos speakers are designed to reflect off a ceiling for "effects." I doubt the response matters much for that. In fact, I think a full-range driver with a lot of controlled directivity would probably be best for this purpose.
Oh, if Danny gives a speaker engineer design, a A Grade on design of crossover MonoPrice should be giving that designer a raise.
Danny sells a single driver speaker that Amir at ASR said was CRAP...
Keep in mind that most of the stuff sent in has been sent in because there are problems. So it kind of skews things toward everything being bad.
@@matthewtaylor7355but that is Amir’s opinion.
@@dannyrichie9743 no problem let’s do this something broken usually problem from the manufacturing process in its initial design.
It’s not skewing any data
I build my own speakers from scratch and cross overs and everything so I don’t have this problem that manufactures have I can spend all the money I want to and take all the time I want to
But I do have a set of speakers that were a big box name production that were one of my sons, and we were into Electronics and modifying things, and we were going to modify the speakers .
Unfortunately, my son passed away and I’m actually going to send one of the speakers to Danny. It’s a tower speaker very well known on the lower high volume end.
All right, basically know exactly what Dan he’s going to do to my speaker that I will send them to him .
I’m gonna ask him to do a modification to cut off the frequency at the bottom, and to get rid of some inherent problems with the speakers from the manufacture. Because they’re only gonna be used with ad on subwoofers somewhere else in the room I want those lower frequency removed from the woofers from the Tony cabinet that I have.
In the crossover is gonna be so huge and big. It’s not physically possible for it to fit inside the cabinet. .
So it will be mounted on the rear exterior .
And then I will take my measurements with the components. Danny has chosen and compare them with my crossover that I manufacture for the same unit. .
Basically, I’m paying Danny to teach me to get better by doing apples to apples comparison on the same device .
Are mini brand new speakers have a lot of design defects that if you have a good systems, you can hear if you have good ears .
@@matthewtaylor7355 amir is a piece of work himself. He does not even follow the set up and design and test procedures of equipment that he’s testing often.
One of the biggest joke tests that he ever published online, and in Stereo forms, was on the pass labs little amp camp
Explicitly, in all the ads and in the instructions, and on the online stereo forms, this little amp was not intended for four ohm loads
But what did Admir do?
He tested it on a four ohm speaker 🤣
And the person who built the camp camp for him, use the wrong power supply.
And then he published results that were quite negative of course.
He’s a stubborn and intelligent as a log 🪵
He just know how to use test equipment and that’s what his life involves around .
A mirror is to watch for a comical release. If you like the Three Stooges, or watching homer Simpson Aamir is a good representation of the same level of technical competency when it comes to running his test, yes to narrowly focused and totally ignores all the important stuff. .
And then, when it doesn’t test correctly, he blames it on the equipment when he is the technical defect himself.
Amir literally causes his own problems .
And then post it on forms 🤦♂️.
Is it only Texans who give overwhelming praise in such an underwhelming manner? 'Not bad' means really GOOD!
My deceased father-in-law was from West 'flat land' Texas. We witnessed a 'not bad' sighting of a UFO. I asked if he had ever seen anything like that?. 'Nope.' Then we sailed on home. No other comments were made.
That level of rectitude is impossible for me to attain.
According to their website, the crossover from woof to mid is at 550hz, at 24db/oct. Mid to tweet is 1.9khz
Good to have a low cross. I designed one with 185 Hz from Audax midrange to 15 inch Eminence.
JoeNTell is going to be thrilled to see this!
In Arthur C. Clarke's Space Odyssey series, Monoliths are machines in black cuboids whose sides extend in the precise ratio of 1: 4: 9 built by an unseen extraterrestrial species whom Clarke dubbed the Firstborn and who he suggests are the earliest highly intelligent species to evolve in the Milky Way.
Glad to see Danny STILL HAS Golden Ears... Being Fan of CH3NO2 11,000 HP TOP FUEL CARS!!! 🙌
Great vid, Danny, my Pedest'ale 's are burning in the those sonicaps you sent me. Thanks
Oh man. I was just talking with my friends the other day and spectral decay and stored energy in woofers came up. And now look. Heres your video. Small world...small world.
The thing you have to be very careful with about Monoprice (and other wholesale places like them) is that they will not give schematics even if requested and getting replacement parts will be difficult to impossible. They try to make up for this with a decent warranty period, but they want everything sent back to them for repair at your expense with no guarantee on time. When the warranty ends, so does parts availability.
Crossover space - and anyone looking to retain the Atmos driver can always mount Danny's entire new crossover in a separate box external to the speaker. I'll be doing that (in one system/setup) just to show-off the Crossover! But seriously, just buy the 2-way Monolith mini bookshelf speaker in this same line and get way better Atmos performance, plus be able to place the height speaker in a better firing location/angle.
I have enjoyed my Encore T6 and C6 for a while .. I would be delighted to update to the THX series for my front stage ..and keep the Encore for the rear and height =)
Great as always! That curved box shape is called a parabola, I think.
I have monolith subs since years never regretted it never heard their speakers
Thanks for your valuable videos!
The tweeter/midrange looks like a Morel TM4055-8 28mm/54mm Tweeter-Midrange Combo, Neo Magnets, 8 ohm, 120W/200W
Sure looks/feels like the Andrew Jones Pioneer stuff, specially the curved box
My Polk bookshelf speakers have a similar curved shape. I'm assuming that this is to avoid standing waves that could appear inside a rectangular box. Would be really interesting to see a test of how much difference it makes.
good to see a positive verdict- now back to criticising the big names!
This owner should totally put some plexi or an insert w/ some steel mesh where that atmos speaker was & show off the fancy crossover.
Monoprice holds the title of being the worst etailer customer service experience I've ever had. Very long story short, the product I received did not match the photos. It took them over a month to respond to me, they argued that I was wrong, then wanted me to pay return shipping!
They have some good products, but I learned not to spend more with them than I'm willing to lose.
Instead of trying to split the crossover up jamming it into a tight space that may impact reflections, why not just make an external crossover box for it? What is taking the driver out the top going to do to the response curve, if you measured with it in there?
So nice to hear an engineer give solid props to another. With most of these videos, all you hear is crap on most models. Danny must have neen REALLY impressed to give this kind of respect. Of course Danny is here to sell parts and designs...theres nothing wrong with that. That's what hes in business for, but mad props to him for his honesty.
Dan has a business degree, not engineering.
@@paulb4661 his staff, then
Upgrades are really about 5 to 10% of our business. We do it for fun and as a service to our customers. It also really helps bring new people into the DIY area of the market, and a lot of people have been real interested in watching the upgrade videos.
Oh, and I am always honest about what I find, good or bad.
The way that parts of a cone respond is clearly not simple. In fact, it would take a partial differential equation. However, the way the whole cone responds is much simpler. f=ma and f= dl • i x B So if the cone weighs more a stronger magnetic field or more windings on the voice coil is needed to make sure that the motor and not spring is moving the cone. Hint set the right part of both equations equal to each other to eliminate f.
Man listen I have their THX subs and I was going to get the THX line from monoprice based on ErinAudiocorner Kliplel measurements but instead decided to go with the big boys NX-Tremes couldn’t be any more happy thank u Danny for creating an amazing speaker now only waiting for the matching center
Thanks, and we just got in the center channel test box. We just need to figure out how to make a stand to support it now.
Is 'ant the "X-Voce Center Kit" from GRR a matching center channel for the NX-Tremes?.
@@seanjoell the X-Voce doesn’t have a ribbon tweeter like the NX- Tremes
@@miguelmunoz1713 The X-Voce is the matching center to the X-Statik model.
What about adding some bracing?
Can i use these minus height speaker as rock speakers if i add subwoofer
You know Danny, as impressed as you are it would seem to me that you might consider sending them an Atta Boy and Politely tell them you had a chance to do some work on one of their speakers for a customer and let them know about the connections and the metal affecting their design. They might not realize this issue and correct their subsequent models.
Can a Denon X-2700H drive those 365 T's to reference volumes or do I need an external amp?
Monoprice? They sell lighting by chance?
I have Monolith THX sub I use with my B&Ws and it's fantastic and a great value.
sending love and peace to everyone...
Wow, a flat response 😮
Monolith is just Monoprices house brand... They private label speakers and amps from other companies
Hey Danny how do we attain your services to upgrade our speakers? Do we send the speakers to you personally or buy kits from you and Do it ourselves…… I’m confused
Step one is to send in one of your speakers. We measure and test them to see what's going on and then give you the measurements, feedback, and recommendations. What we do after that is up to you.
I am a bit confused as to why the owner even bought this speaker in the first place. He doesn't want to use the height speakers and is basically just going to mod it. Why not just buy one of Danny's kits?
Danny: a little off topic but previously you said you heard the Von Schweikert VR-4 second generation loudspeakers. What did you think of them?
Meh....
Why does he hate steel parts so much? Can someone exlain or provide some source of this information? It's a serious question, i would like to study the subject..
Any chance of using a gr research driver for the Atmos section?
No.
Would the upgraded parts be compatible with the in-wall versions of these speakers?
No.
The open back magnaplanar 1570 headphones ain’t bad either..
I second that. They may be an Audeze rip-off but a good one :)
God video as always Danny, could you give a answer to my question, would non magnetic Nuts like stainless steel be ok , I have not been able to find brass or copper due to all the stores never have any due to people stealing.
It would be better than standard Steel.
@@dannyrichie9743 thank you Danny for your reply and expertise, I was raised in a audiophile home with some of the old guys as my fathers friends. It griped me that I could not find simple brass or copper nuts here in Los Angeles because because there stolen . On another note hopefully I get my boat sold and purchase your open baffle system ,can't keep my mind off of them 🥂
Is this a legit MTM design? If it is it has a typical midrange lobbing which, if done right, delivers superb midrange. Easiest way to tell is the vertical sweet spot is very narrow. Not too many classic MTM designs and they are badly missed.
Can you review the Polk audio s60 and Polk audio tsi400
Danny doesn’t do reviews. Customers sends speakers to him, to fix sound problems and he gives a solution. Shoots a video to show the results.
@@rikardekvall3433 ohh okok thank you
Monolith has been around for a number of years now (I’m gonna guess around 7), but since they’re HT-centric, I can see why you might not have heard about them.
Danny, question: your measurements don’t seem to take into account how speakers perform at loud volumes. Is there a reason for that?
It’s not a dig at all. My guess is that this is largely a function of the drivers, so whether they do well loud or not is beyond the scope of what your upgrades are intended for.
High volume testing is not something we do and it is not done as any kind of industry standard. Speakers will typically retain a pretty linear response (the same response) as power increases right up to the point to where they are over driven.
Kudos where it’s due. Good for you, Danny and great job by the designer. But I do prefer the big fix videos, so awaiting the next Klipsch / B&W speaker !
@@dannyrichie9743
Well yes, by definition, ... ie., linear until being over-driven!
Compression is huge.
I'm particularly sensitive to the various penalties that accompany compression.
How well a driver converts drive current to propagating energy is vital. It's lossy, ... a sliding scale of lossyness.
Leveraging physical and electrical resonances, load angle, ... all to perform mutually well within a specific operating range (which is key).
One example being a "pro" type driver for midbass.
Most every strong performing subwoofer is easily bested by supplementing the system via mid bass modules.
They're simply two different tasks.
- Since the deep stuff is off loaded, it doesn't need a 20hz Fs.
- higher Fs can employ a coincident impedance peak, thus dramatically lowering current pulled from the amplifier.
- with lower VC current, typically less inductance, eliciting greater speed and bandwidth, plus lower mms, yielding higher sensitivity.
The superb JBL 15"s in their two-way studio monitors, are killer at bass tone, texture, and speed. However, tasked with LFE bottom octaves, no bueno.
Similarly, my quad Fi IB3-18" IB, is really compromised in its upper octave reproduction.
Not sure how I got here ...
Nice vid
Much appreciated
I thought this was about gems, not speakers.
The fact somebody sent it in for "Improvements" tells the true story, doesn't it?
Other key deception words: THX in the model "number" and Danny says, these are good for theater. He didn't say music. Watch out is all I can say. It's also sus that the atmos speaker measured poorly, yet, you are paying for it and that was almost ignored.
Good for home theatre doesn't necessarily mean it's going to be good for music. Where have you been for the last 20 years ???????
Monolith is a premium brand under MonoPrice. Not even close.
And yet there’s not a single Elac speaker I like. May measure well but the sound is meh.
Well, they were really built to a price point and loaded with budget level (really cheap) parts....
So….. how can we improve upon it???
Our upgrade kit will be a considerable improvement.
Hey you, out there in the cold
Getting lonely, getting old
Can you feel me?
What is no rez composed of.🤓
Is no rez a proprietary formula under license or is it made from natural materials.
Snips and snails and puppy dog tails.
@@dannyrichie9743 🙀😸🙀😸
Do I think Monoprice sucks? Not at all. I'm sitting here with two of the Monolith subs. One Monoprice 5 channel Amp and speakers in the way. I live the value you get along with the quality of their products.
Danny complains about poor quality parts... Which he conveniently will charge a huge mark up for to replace.. The parts cost cents to make in China... Like the speakers
Buyer BEWARE anything Monoprice. IF your item breaks after 30 days they 'guarantee a one year replacement'...... only if the item is in stock. If your item is discontinued or out of stock Monoprice will have the nerve to offer store credit. Just another cheap Chinese company.
Great job? Loock at the price too, $500 EACH for that MIDGET?
Thanks but i'll stick with KLIPSH.
I don't think Klipsch makes a speaker that would compete with these.
Please look inside your Klipsch and try not to laugh when you see the crossover components or lack of compared to this well designed but value driven speaker. Then again, if you like horn speakers originally intended for PA use, then great crossover components won't matter much except resistors for that katana sharp tweeter 😂
Crossover can be modified, isn't GR doing same thing just for $300 each?
So you can do it too if you know what are you doing but Klipsh woofers and enclosure are much higher level, just add your moded Crossover and you're done.
@@AQAVAR No, the Klipsch woofers are as bad as they get. The enclosures are nothing special either.