Dolby Atmos Overhead Effects? You’re Not Missing Much
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- We put Dolby Atmos overhead effects to the test by listening to what the Atmos ceiling effects channel has to offer, to see if it’s worthwhile for you to install ceiling height speakers. FOMO watches four movies with Atmos: John Wick 2, Godzilla, Alita and Mad Max. Our findings will surprise you!
For more information about bad Atmos mixes, check out Audioholic’s recent interview on TH-cam with an Atmos cinema installer:
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wanna know a secret? 5.1 is all most of us need in an average room. for years, on dvd's (let alone blu rays) and long before atmos, Ive been hearing helicopters and planes fly over head from front to rear and rear to front, left to right, front corner to opposite rear corner etc.... rain all around me... enveloping explosions, breaking glass... and bullets whizzing all over the room.... to be honest, Ive heard some pretty damn convincing upmixed/processed virtual surround sound off of VHS too. Dolby Pro Logic II was amazing and really showcased what the old receivers could do with only two channels long before all of the studios were laying down official surround mixes. Dont get me wrong, I really like surround sound but for most situations, anything more than 5.1 speakers is fluff. You have to truly have the right size and shape of room , locations, a quality receiver and yes as you say in the video, a good content source. The likelihood of checking all of those boxes adequately diminishes significantly as the speaker count increases ...
Sonos Beam
I'm still rocking an old 5.1 Yamaha system that only seems to support Dolby Pro Logic II. I'm actually pretty impressed with it. But I've been wondering if I should get a new receiver and some dolby atmos upfiring speakers. My apartment is small so I don't know if I will see any big improvement...
@@kevjapan you probably don’t wanna be blasting upwards facing speakers if you live in an apartment
Well stated
I think you hit the nail right on the head.
I hope Hollywood pays attention to your videos.... it’s gonna completely change the way we perceive sound in our home theater.... great video !!!
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Very interesting. Thanks for this. Thanks for taking the time to do this.
Having speakers in the right position makes all the difference in the world, Dolby Atmos or not. Some people like surround sound even when listening to music, the overhead speakers make a huge difference. I'm addicted to hearing surround music! Great video!
Dude ! Thank you so much for speaking out honestly. I’ve been obsessed about missing out the height speakers. You save me from spending a lots of money to gain almost nothing. Btw, I have a 7.1 surrounding setup. My Denon X3700H actually has a pretty cool feature called Virtualization Atmos. It actually works pretty well. I could hear some sounds over my head without punching holes on my ceiling and having messy wires running all over my house… thank you ! Great work !
This is a wonderful, real world review. Thank you!
I'm pleased I happened upon this review. I do enjoy your other content. As a home theatre person we are often searching for better video, better audio, a better experience so we enjoy movies more, and its easy to convince yourself that you need the latest technologies and you aren't left behind.
Several years ago (when Atmos was new thing) I went to a HC retailer and listened to a few movies on a pretty high-level 7.4.6 system, top of the range projector, receivers, amplifiers, M&K300 speakers. All top of the range stuff. And the sound was great BUT I honestly couldn't hear much if anything coming out of the ceiling speakers at all. I put it down to me just not being able to distinguish the difference. Since then I've had similar experiences on 'lesser' systems.
I have now reached a stage where I need to upgrade my AVR processor and its a good opportunity to install and enjoy 4 atmos celing speakers. I visited a local retailer (very helpful people) who had just installed a new system (Anthem AVM70 | Emotiva Power-Amps | Monitor Audio in wall speakers in a 7.2.4 system). Initially I listened to the atmos demo disk where they selected key extracts from different films, and oh yes I could hear the effects coming from the ceilings. This is what I expected Atmos to be. It must have improved since my last auditions in the past. I was a happy bunny.
I then selected a few blu-rays at random and...oh no, where have the ceiling sound effects gone?
So in summary this would certainly seem to back up your views.
The technology works.
The theory is sound.
But its pot luck how well that technology is incorporated into the actuals movies you want to watch.
Unless you're happy only watching a demo disc or the 1 or 2 movies that do it well then unfortunately the experience delivered is not the experience we all desperately want it to be.
Good review, great idea only having the atmos track playing, tells you everything. I am still thinking about it but I am probably still going to do it, but thanks for the heads up on the speakers, I mean I won't be getting expensive atmos speakers.
Thanks for keeping it real for sound mixers. I am tired of sparse minimal effects personally.
Fantastic video. Any chance of reviewing newer movies to see if the atmos is improving?
I want ceiling speakers but you might have saved me alot of money. Think I will stick with my dali alteco C1's placed high on the walls for now....?
I know it is late to be adding a comment but I am so thankful after watching this because I have been on the fence considering Atmos. My logical brain tells me this is just another step in the audio video industry to sell more equipment but my emotion brain has FOMO. Thank you for your excellent analysis and courageous honesty!!
Larry Jin
Ready player one in atmos is just epic more movies should be like that atmos is so good.
One thing I think is a gimmick is virtual atmos sound it annoys me when atmos puts there stamp on it for approval when it’s not atmos I have used a Sony ht xf9000 it’s bad.
My Samsung q950t is outstanding really impressive.
Thanks TH-cam for dropping this video in my suggestions. And thanks to you for your very well explanation with good experiment and now it seems i won’t be going for atmos speakers. I was actually researching which atmos speakers bars to go for and you saved my money 👍👍👍
note that this video is uploaded in 2019.. thing have gotten better, especially if you go for auro 3d upmixing 5.1 or 7.1 content..
I was about to pull the trigger on a 11.2 denon receiver and install atmos speakers. Thanks to this review, I’m glad I get to save a ton of money and stick to my 7.2 current set up. Thank you!
GREAT decision. If you ever decide you wanted "ceiling effects", get an AVR capable of upmixing to add those effects such as Auro3D upmixer or similar.
Good video, glad you did the analysis. I run a simple 5.2.2 and there's really not much Atmos content available. When there is, I'd say it sounds clearer, richer, more detailed as a whole. Unfortunately however there's really not a lot of shows and movies with Atmos. The choices for streaming it are even worse, as only Netflix offers it in their streaming content. That being said, my two front up firing Atmos speakers are always making sound regardless of whether it's Atmos, or True Master HD to regular old 5.1, so my Sony receiver is doing some sort of up mixing with the non Atmos content. I'd like to see you do a video on the up mixing, since that's probably more of what consumers will hear coming from their Atmos speakers whether they're in the ceiling, up firing in front of whatever. So that leads me to wonder... What's the ideal setup for Atmos speakers for up mix content? I'd venture to say the up mix definitely adds a spaciousness to everything. However, where is it best utilized? One of the best setups I had done, was with my Energy CB-10 bookshelf speakers I'm using for Atmos channels, sitting on the TV stand on little 15 degree angled stands, toed in at 15 degree each. Basically just sort of shooting sound into the upper middle listening area. Anyway, love your videos, keep them coming!
I am looking into 4.1.2 (behind a pc) and a soundbar with 3.1.2 reflecting of the ceiling will not work for that, too close I guess. Sadly yes, too little Atmos, DTS:X and MPEG-H 3D for games.
I think the real problem is the licensing. Atmos asks money (in game case) from the dev, the device, everything and everyone in the toolchain form maximum dollar, MPEG-H has 2 large licensing pools and if you have 1 of the 2 you should be covered but may not be depending on what part of it you use and bla bla, really messy plus it really only is used for tv and even then primarily sat from what I can find, DTS is better but just not used a lot and the tools are not great from what I understand. Now a 4th standard might be introduced, all proprietary with yet more licensing pools.
I think it would help for a lot of content to just have an open standard, but then you got yet another standard.
Thanks for your opinion on this topic finally somebody talks about what consumers with intention of buying something "better" for home viewing can see/listen to opinion from somebody that can compare it by himself (TV/speakers) because it looks that some reviewers are not talking about these things or simply don't want to...keep up good work FoMo
Excellent review. Thanks for the heads up.
I took my ceiling speakers out and moved to the front height configuration /
A) I was sick of listening to see if anything was happening from the ceiling
B) I use bookshelfs for heights and in my set up sounds better with music (I always had to disable ceilings with music)
C) I've got maybe 6 (out of over 100) discs that use atmos /dtsx well (a quiet place being my favourite)
Awesome video BTW.
Think about it... when do you actually hear sound come from directly above? When you first hear something from above it's usually off in the distance frist and then rarely does it come directly overhead! So well done for figuring it out 👍
If you click on the red dragon you can see I've done more or less the same thing, except ive done mine with all for height speakers!
Haha you can ask my wife… she is the one who’s sick of seeing me walking around like an idiot listening to nothing coming out of the speakers … we’re suckers !!
You have validated my thoughts about atmos from the very beginning.
Thanks for the input. I hope you do a video where you compare a conventional 7.1 soundtrack to an Atmos 7.1 version to see if there is any benefits to the object oriented sound.
I'm glad you cleared that up for us, I have a Sonos Arc 5.1 system and I thought I wasn't hearing anything from the upward firing speakers on the Arc. Even if Hollywood did include more Atmos sound effects, after reflecting sound off the ceiling I question how effective it would be. I still enjoy my Sonos 5.1 with or without Atmos and one of my favorite soundtracks is from the first Jurassic Park and that movie came out in 1993! Thank you for the video I agree with your assessment.
You have two giant screens to the right of your screen boarding off half of your room acoustics. I found it takes a lot of trial an error to get an excellent Dolby Atmos configuration but its very worth it. People keep forgetting to add "in my home setup...I believe that. Feel like you are discouraging people that may be better at setting up rooms and getting great results
I have been enjoying 5.1 surround sound in my 13x13 ft. TV room for at least a dozen years. The two speakers hanging from the ceiling on either side of my sofa certainly add to the effect and ambience. I seriously doubt an upgrade to a 5.1.2 Atmos system would add to my enjoyment especially since I am not a gamer. All they would do is add more sound bouncing against the ceiling from the front. But I am getting enough sound from the ceiling now. Conceivably if I was listening in a larger room it might be worth it.
Wow, very insightful and eye-opening video. Thank you. I have been watching from the sidelines for years, still very happy with my 7.1 non-Atmos setup, enjoying many regular and 4K blu rays with my current AVR and speaker system entirely at ear level. I think I may be fine sticking with what I have but I’m curious, have you changed your mind at all in the years since you first posted this video? Your updated thoughts would make a great new video! Thanks again.
Wow. I've just stumbled across this video 4 years later. It's really enlightening. Have audio engineers improved Atmos mixing for home media yet?
I'm really glad someone agrees with me on this. I have a lovely 5.1.4 set up. I have no eyesight so you'll understand when I say I've tuned this thing for 1.5 years to get exactly the right balance. Heck I'm still tuning it :) My impression honestly, is that it may not be so much a question of budget, as to the laziness of the people mixing it because you're right, results vary wildly from film to film. I can't really turn off my other speakers as easily as you can, but it's clear not that much goes up there. Even though objects can move in 3d, they really sound like they're coming out of seperate speakers. I will say that since you did this video, things seem to have changed somewhat, but just because something has atmos, doesn't mean it'll be any good sadly.
Great interpretation, what's your thoughts on up firing speakers such as klipsh versus ceiling speakers
Good video, I’m hoping they get better with this, we need more people like you out there spreading the word so maybe they get wind of it and make more time and budget for better atmos. Because they are basically ripping us off , we buy atmos and it says atmos but we don’t hear atmos
Glad I found this! Upgrading my HT and was on the fence about adding 4 speaker in the ceiling. Maybe in the future, but not now
Sorry but this is the first time I will have to 100% disagree with him. If you have doubts any way due to cost for example, then no problem, just wait. But Atmos when set up properly is awesome.
Thank you so much for this content. I was just about to spend $$$$ for full atmos equipment. I will stay with 7.2 for now.
The most honest and best analyzed video I have seen on atmos. Now I know that the other reviewers are only listening to the loud sound effects and are assuming that it’s coming out of atmos speaker. Luckily I didn’t spend much money in setting up my home theater. I just just about $200 on a new atmos receiver. All other stuff was bought from eBay few years back.
I’m very glad I found this video, and I think for my upcoming home theater upgrade I’m going to pass on a crazy expensive Atmos setup and just go with a 5.2 setup (the room I have doesn’t lend itself to having side speakers). This means I can save a lot on the receiver too.
Unsure how you will save on the receiver? Nearly every receiver sold in the past few years is able to process Atmos.
@@ytj22 FWIW I went with the Marantz SR8015 and Klipsch RF-7 IIIs and equivalent center and subs. Somehow saving money went right out the window. 😀
@@asdf51501 Lol! Nice choices. (and I know the feeling!)
If I were Dolby, I would certify very few movies in Dolby Atmos to ensure quality over quantity. Otherwise their image is bound to degrade.
True thats why I find DTS X using the upmixing better than atmos
@@marklouieadame And no holes in the ceiling too :)
The problem Dolby as a whole are kinda sus. DTSX does it better and is more consistent
Sorry that you blame a hundred million dollar movie for poor Dolby ATMOS.
It should be called Dull b Almost.
lol
Absolutely fantastic video. I don't know much about this stuff and you answered my question. "What format is used by height speakers?" Like a previous comment, my Sony receiver is sending something to my ceiling speakers and I assumed it was the surround channel, still not sure but lots of sound. I'm subscribing. Thanks a ton!,
I'm so glad I found this video. I feel like I'm missing out or my setup is not correct. Mad Max specifically keeps getting reviewed (to this day) as one of the best Atmos tracks. I think these reviewers incorrectly think loud effects or LFE makes for a good Atmos track. My $1000 ceiling setup barely makes noise though.
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An honest review? A breath of fresh air. Thank you!
Just watched Pacific Rim with Atmos last night and wow! The sound design is Oscar worthy in my mind. Just bought 4 SVS Elevation and these are the best surrounds I've ever had. My wife used to complain how loud I played movies but no complaints anymore even at 75dB. I! had to crank it down a bit. The 'trick" for me after running Audyssey (and that's another story) was to manually increase the surround levels. I have my surrounds are the back and side walls. My problem is my couch is at the back wall. I'm considering placing the back surrounds on the ceiling but that's going to be tricky because I have to AC vents in the way. Fortunately I have a very forgiving wife who does not mind me going HT nuts some times.
I guess you are going to keep witching the same movie over and over.
@@click381 Indeed.
Spot on true review !!!! Thanks fomo.
Thanks for this video. It’s been almost two years, has anything changed?
Really great ...appreciate your research ..keep up
I really appreciate the 'stop the fomo' angle of view!
I just bought a entire new Dolby atmos system. I got a Samsung 65” au8000 tv and a Samsung sound bar the high end one for $1300 bucks with a sub and rear speakers and I have to say it’s amazing. The sound blows my mind.
I spent over $8000 on my other system in my movie theater and it does not sound as good as this sound bar and rear speakers that I got what I think is crazy cheap.
Tv $1599
Sound bar $1299
All Samsung and it’s the most amazing set up I am beyond happy with the quality.
But I agree with you I noticed in many movies lack of audio with atmos.
My thing is 99% of Bluray discs don't have Atmos at all. Most don't even have 7.1. Rather 5.1 is still the bread and butter for the VAST majority of content. It just doesn't seem worth it to spend a couple grand to get another audio processor and more speakers that will be inactive for the vast majority of movies. And, by the way, 5.1 doesn't suck. If money is an object, prioritize the fronts, the sub, then the sides, in that order. The law of diminishing returns hit hard after that.
U forgot the center
@@johnlira3316 The centre is a front speaker so is part of "fronts".
I have a 5.2.4 atmos set up and can agree that some movies miss the boat on what we are told atmos can accomplish, but some movies are great. As it is now more regularly being released with regular blu Ray's and not just 4k ones I'm hoping they will start becoming more immersive like gravity, john wick 2, fury etc...not all blockbusters are there yet...
I am so glad I seen your video before I upgraded to Atmos! Now I can use that money to upgrade other parts of my home theater..👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👍🏽✌🏽 Plus my ceilings are cement so I would have had a hard time doing it anyway.. I am so glad that I won't be missing out on anything because most movies are not equipped with the Atmos sound anyway?? The same with THX..
daaaaamn you just saved me $700!!!!!... almost picked some up yesterday. i would've been raging if i went through so much setup & heard silence! loved the brutally honest review!
Currently running 7.2 and my Denon X4500 has 2 more channels available. Would I be better off adding 2 height channels in the front vs. messing with installing speakers in the ceiling for Atmos?
Just watched 'Mission Impossible: Fallout'. Must say, this is pretty good Atmos mix, possibly one of the best I've heard in a movie. Give that a try, assuming you haven't already, and see what you think.
Just remember to only leave the Atmos channels on to really hear what's there.
Bring back 3D.
@@stratogustav , they're all Atmos channels, not just the ceiling speakers.
WHO just watched?
Stellar! Thank you for the transparency and the truth!
I understand, i think probably because its insanely a lot more work and time to synce every movement, especially when it is a full hour straight action!
Could you also play clips that only surround rears are playing. A lot of us are thinking if going from 5.1 to 7.1 is worth it? Same with 7.1 to 9.1.
Excellent explanation! thanks
went from 5.1 to 5.1.2 to 5.1.4. I have tried around 50 DTS-X and ATMOS titles. At most 2 out of 10 have any ceiling speaker output. Winners were MI Fallout, Expendables 3, 10 Cloverfield Lane. If you want the ultimate sonic effect on 20 per cent of hyped ATMOS content, do it.
I have those movies and they rock. Ready Player One, and Blade Runner 2049 was a great demo of Atmos.
Agree 100%. I'll stick with DTS, I did try Atmos and found that it was in my opinion not worth the change over.
And I thought I was the only that preferred DTS-HD
I can only add one more pair of speaker to my avr. Was debating between going. 5.2.2 or 7.2. You made this decision much easier.
My question is, would Kaleidescape make the difference? IDK...
You are spot on about Atmos sound! I have a 7.2 system and very disappointed with what comes out of the ceiling speakers. There is little to non-existent sound coming from above. We are still in the infancy of truly emersive sound.
Another good DVD to test your system is "Spiderman into the Spider-Verse". Excellent!
Loved your critique.
Really? What movies do you think have more atmos content?
I have been enjoying virtualized Atmos through my Denon AVR for three years now. Just going to be adding up firing speakers I got on sale. Sounds like that will be good enough to catch the atmospheric traits. Seems like expecting more than that at home is asking too much.
Thank you for a good video!👍👍
This probably explains why every time I payed more to a Dolby Atmos Ticket in Cinema I didn't hear anything different that the regual showing. So I am under the impression that Atmos is a gimmic or a joke.
oh sir you really blow me away with this video , you are absolute right
thank you you just saved me a bunch of money on upgrading, I have a anthem processor the avm70 but no height speakers I don't think ill get them now.
excellent content . .an eye opener
Do you recomend an av receiver for atmos? Or just a soundbar is ok
What make and size television do you have?
In some of those scenes though, what's happening is in front of the camera not out of frame (behind or above). So it wouldn't make sense to hear something above you if the camera is pointed at it, since then, it's coming twords you straight on.
Hi. Thanks, great analysis Fomo. I have used decent headphones to listen to movies often and they immediately signal the quality of the imaging on movie soundtracks. One that I remember being particularly great was pixar's 'The Incredibles 2' (which makes sense as they have always taken great care implementing every aspect of technology into their movies). The spatial sounds were just superb, but I'm not even sure that movie has an atmos track? Anyway, although there will always be some decent implementations of audio tech, the cost and effort was always far too high to warrant Atmos speakers and, just as you're piece has shown, there was no guarantee of a consistent experience for me.
If there are any serious movie freaks out there (including those that have found other AV freaks to hang out with), I recommend buying well regarded open-back headphones which are known to be able to image sound around your head well (ironically, the best route is often those headphones that are recommended for DIY gaming headsets) . If you have more than one of you, there are a few good options to split the Bluray plyr/TVs audio out - be it spidif, Bluetooth or analog. It won't piss off your neighbours either and will easily be cheaper than a high end Atmos setup.
Yes I use the original Bluedio Victory headphones with 12 speakers and hard to miss any sound wearing these. Now ordering another Bluetooth headset, Sony MDR- HW 700 with mixing decoder that plugs into your TV etc. 7.1 and said to be capable of producing Dolby Atmos also.
Thanks for doing what you do!
Have you tried any games?
I dont have a fancy theater system, but I do have fancy headphones. Turning on Atmos in Metro Exodus is a big difference and I'm curious how it would fair on your system?
Xbox one x
Thank you for the video, I’m watching this 4 years after you made this video, obviously I’m experiencing the same issue otherwise I wouldn’t be watching the video, I have just completed a new theatre build, upgrading from a Pioneer SC-LX83 receiver from around 2010 which I was always very impressed with, gone are the unsightly speakers everywhere and replaced with Focal 300 series in wall and in ceiling speakers all built into custom made boxes in the walls and ceiling etc, the blu ray player is an Oppo UDP-205 so all the equipment is good quality, and I’m left struggling to justify why I wanted Atmos, I feel I have gained nothing other than the room looking better with the in walls, which are excellent sounding speakers, I had wondered if I had not spent enough money on the 4 Atmos speakers and was considering if I needed to spend a lot more money on them, however I think you have convinced me the problem is nothing to do with the equipment I have selected or my install, it’s the disc manufacturers that are simply not making use of the height channels, having watched through around 50 movies with Atmos and 2 with DTSX I can say the 2 with DTSX made far better use of the height channels with better placed effects.
Again thank you for the video, you have convinced me not to spend any more money on the system!
It surprises me how now 3 years after this video there is still no good way to test the sound from above for stuff like for those soundbars that bounce sound to the ceiling. It took me a bit to figure out with the Samsung Q990B that tweaking the speaker placement was what I needed to get it. But a few demos specifically meant for testing Atmos and especially the sound from above effects rather than just surround would be nice.
I kind of agree with you, but I use to have a Yamaha 7.1 until switch to an Denon 7.2 atmos. The Denon put Yamaha to shame. But I do understand what you are saying that atmos is very weak in some movies. But in all I love my Denon atmos. Another thing I love about my system the music that is played on it is awesome. I am a jazz musician, so I know a good system when I hear it The separation is unbelievable. Key board and drums in different area of the room. Lead instrument or singer in the center speaker. So I think atmos is a big plus to the industry.
What kind of equipment are you using.... seperates or a reciever to do it all.
I have heard just the opposite from other reviewers of SOME of these same movies
Thank you for this video. I'm planning to do atmos. Now change my mind. Save money.
Q950a. No holes in the ceiling so no disappointment 😎. Works fine in a small to medium sized room with 9ft-ish ceiling. Some films are definitely better than others as far as Atmos tracks go.
For those of us who already have the overhead speakers, what are the best Atmos mixed movies? ...similar video with the just the overhead speakers?
I know this is old but thank you for making it and being honest about it. Hope things have improved but somehow I doubt it
I had the option to do 5.2.2.. or 7.2. I chose 7.2 cause I don't want to sacrifice 2 surrounds which I know there is always alot of action coming from for 2 height speakers which will almost never have any sound coming from.
Dude I love it… I was about to make the same mistake… now I learned from you not to do it !!
if you have good atmos setup/angles etc. it is a big step up!
Also had rear/Front height but with my on ceiling nubert ws14 angeled at MLP is perfect with 5.2.4 plus dirac bass control.
I agree with this guy 100% the problem is not Dolby Atmos it's the sound engineers they don't know how to do it. Let's give you an example..... The Dolby atmos intro he played in the beginning was amazing it pulled you in and sounded 3d all day. Then the movie starts and your lucky to get 10% of the effects. Thanks for this video people need to see and realize what's happening. Dolby Atmos could be totally amazing if the sound engineers could just put a little more work into the movies.
You have👌given the final result brother the problem s with sound engineers they r not using technology properly
Sound engineer here, with lots of atmos mixing experience, mostly music: The problem is that the variation in set-ups is too large. Music only works within certain tolerances of balance, when we try to exploit immersive movement in the mixes, it doesn’t translate. Music also needs identical speakers all over, and the sweetspot is too small.
Atmos is a dead end. Sorry.
Do you see this changing,atmos upgrading in the editing? Or is it a budgeting thing entrenched in the studios.i was considering upgrading my living room audio to atmos...seems like a waste of money if the source is crap.i,ll stick to dtsx for now.well done,thanks for saving me a bunch of money.
Thanks for making this video. I'll be sticking to 7.2 for the foreseeable future. Tons of 7.1 tracks since it was introduced as a format in 2010 with Toy Story 3 :)
Atmos is a nice bonus, but the effects are pretty scarce. It's going to take a while before a lot of movies make good use of it. Mostly you can count the instances of it being used on 1 or 2 hands and most of the standout stuff is... helicopters flying from above.
I only paid €900 for my Samsung Q990B though. Simply bought it because I wanted a good soundbar. Didn't expect to see a high-end one competing with the best for that cheap.
I have a vizio dobly atmos sound bar so it has front High speakers but I don't know what setting to set the height speakers on supposedly supposed to bounce off the wall and reflects back down is it the lower setting the higher the sound or the higher the setting the higher the sound? I'm not too familiar with what trouble is settings on my soundbar what should I set that as
Thank you SO MUCH for doing this. It's a shame Atmos/DTS:X doesn't have a LAV decoder in Windows. That way we could just plot amplitude graphs to see what's going on there and if it's worth watching it. I've already got all the speakers setup so would really like to know which movies are worth it or not .Kinda like fake 3D or not or fake HDR/4k or not.
I clearly fell for the marketing. All that work doing the ceiling speakers was mostly a waste. I do enjoy the upmixing though - but honestly if I saw your analysis in in 2015 when I started the ceiling stuff I'd have skipped it
@ RXP91, I was just saying on another YT channel that I have been VERY disappointed in my HT surround sound ever since I began over 20 years ago! Including "Dolby Atmos"! There are a few scenes here and there that have impressed me, but overall...DISAPPOINTMENT! There is NOT much decent source material out there it seems.
I got a Samsung Q950A. Any recommended movies/scenes on Netflix or Prime that is worth checking out?
totaly agree,,,i have an atmos reciever and i dont feel like puting the extra 2 chanels.....i use it as 5.1
Any immersive experience with 5.1?
I run my Atmos/DTS X capable receiver as a simple 5.1 set up. At one time, I did have it in the 5.1.2 configuration. The problem with Atmos and DTS X isn't the technology. It is the actual implimentation. Dolby True HD and DTS Master Audio are generally better implemented in an even handed fashion. Maybe someday, they will put the same effort in these object based formats as they have in master audio/true HD.
Any immersive feel (overhead effect) when you listen to any dolby atmos track in 5.1 setup?
I’m setting up a system now, my reviver does 7.1 or 5.1.2 and I’m actually thinking a 7.1 would be better, I know this is an older post and I’m not sure if the Dolby atmos at home has gotten any better?
Thank you!
Hello great video :)
I have two questions
1. How this situation looks now 3 years later ?
2. Now everyone recommends Auro 3d up mix to fix this poor Atmos movies but how this upmixer adding missing Chanel’s not exist in first please ? And are this is really king now ?
Regards
Marek
I have an 7.1.6 Auro setup and I can tell you that compared to allmost all atmos mixes Auro is superior. Only the old Bladerunner has a decent mix afaik. In Nobody for example is about 2 Minutes of hight content. That is ridiculous. Watch the interviews with van Bellen. He explains that thier upmixer useses over 50 cues to analyze the soundtracks. I think it is a real shame that the grip from Dolby is so strong that they pushed Auro out of the market. There are only few real Auro mixes like Spider-Man Homecoming. But these are by far the best mixes I ever heard.
This reminds me of the THX Intro on the old DVDs mastered in THX only the intro sounded fantastic.We the public at a huge cost make a tremendous effort to listen or watch something the media providers don’t bother to produce as it should sound or watch only the demos.
I really appreciate analysis like this and while I’m really happy to have invested in the Vizio m512a-h6 5.1.2 Atmos/DTS X soundbar surround sound system, I’ll admit my ocd has been on fire trying to pinpoint any Atmos sounds and seeing the studios not doing full justice to the Atmos mix really stings. That being said I’d rather have the tech to future proof and hopefully one day we see a lot more discs utilize the tech better
I bought a DVD player to future-proof. Welcome to the future!
Wow thanks for sharing.
Thanks so much :) I have had enough trying to make this atmos work. Turns out it's not my setup...
Any chance you plan an update to this video? So many streaming platforms offering Atmos now. Lots of people getting into building their HT for their first time. It'd be good to know if Atmos is worth thinking about now more than since you made this video.
I can tell you that nothing has changed. Dolby Atmos mixes continue to be quite sad and underutilized. It’s an issue with lack of resources being put into creating truly inspiring Dolby Atmos mixes. It takes time and cost money and productions simply aren’t investing the resources to make Atmos a consistently great experience.
The Answer for many is to buy a Receiver with Auro 3D upmixer. It is a clever upmixer that will make use of your height speakers extensively throughout an entire movie or show and not just a minute or two (cough…Atmos).
@@JonMoralesLA gracias hermano por lo comentado. Aunque la verdad sí quisiera gastar una pasta grande solo por blade runner 2049 en Atmos. Sabes si tiene buen mixing?
Are you saying the sound mix theaters get is different from the mix we get for home theater? How do you know this to be true?
idk how you set up Atmos but MMFR on my setup played awesome!
I thought it was me and my setup... Thank you for bringing this out. Some movies mare badass.. most are not
That jet li & jackie chan movie forbidden kingdom has pretty good ambient sound. Especially the cafe, bar scenes.
Has anything essentially change since this video was made?
Well I bought a Samsung sound bar 5.1.2. Added the wireless extra speakers for rear and up. So now I have 7.1.4 and I have to say its brilliant. 6 Underground was amazing as was The Adam project and Troll. All just streamed though Netflix on an Apple 4K TV box. I get it that budget restraints mean how much can be spent on a mix but Im very happy.
Do a follow up !! good stuff
Can you revisit this? Is it still the same?
Late to the channel, but can anyone answer me that for movies where the native top channel mixing was terrible, then would Auro upmixing be the best option available?
I and ALL people that I know do not have a single Bluray. We only rely on streaming from Netflix, HBO, Prime, etc. Does ATMOS make sense for us? I just bought a ToneWinner AT-300 processor. Would it upmix to ATMOS? Thank you!