i adore agent 8, and im pretty sure there’s an in universe reason to them being silent, inklings and octolings speak different languages, so agent 8 likely didn’t speak inkling
When agent 8 came to the surface, they just started learning inklish(?)! Their splatoon 2 amiibo spoke broken inklish like starfire from teen titans go. However, in splatoon 3, their amiibo speaks fluent inklish
@rolandodr98 she's been in inkpolis for a longer time than when they met Eight, Marina probably adapted to the language way before she and pearl met Eight.
Scary thought came into my mind. Tartar had enough energy to destroy Inkopolis, not the world but he had enough charge to do that. Pearl managed to outpower Tartar ... *Pearl has canonicaly enough power to wipe out Inkopolis*
Other scary thought: The material for the sanitized ink only lobotomizes octolings. If an Inkling is Sanitized, they lose all touch with reality, very hostile and territorial. Sanitized cephalopods do not respawn So if tarter successfully sanitized the entire earth, two things would happen 1: inklings would end up making themselves extinct, Octolings go into hiding from primal instinct 2: Inklings drive ALL cephalopods extinct Secret third option: The sanitized ooze fucks up the salmonids and THEY kill the cephalopods (Which makes sense since the sanitized ooze basically waters u down to primal instinct, which for Inklings is fighting for territory, octolings is order and obedience, salmonoid is “bang this small child over the head with a frying pan”)
@@Redder_CreepsIt wasn't just something. If I remember correctly, it was a wooden bridge that was associated with one of the stages. She broke a WOODEN BRIDGE by screaming.
One of my favorite pieces of characterization for Agent 8 is in the credits for Octo Expansion. The clouds clear, and they see the sun for the first time in a long time. Everyone else is still looking at the credits but you can tell 8 is in complete awe with their mannerisms alone. It’s beautiful symbolism for how far they went to escape the metro and the bright days to come in their future.
@@niicespiice Well one thing is that Agent 4 wasn't very cultured and aware of the Squid Sisters and stuff because she's very serious about academics and studying, such that she'd actually skip Turf Wars to study instead, and thus wasn't very in the loop on popular stuff.
Tartar being dead has to be the funniest part of the lore. Conceptually having an ai. who’s purpose is to spread information to the next intelligent life form so the don’t wipe themselves out like the humans. Just for Tartar to say “Na fuck it, lemmie go insane.”is hilarious 💀
The whole irony is that the reason he cites for the current lifeforms not being worthy is that they fight in pathetic squabbles over turf, but the implication is that, that is exactly why the humans (which tartar views as supreme) got wiped out in the first place.
At the final fight with Marina and Acht if you hear closely a reference to the final fest. While yes they speak gibberish. You can faintly hear Chaos and Order
One lil nitpick, but the octarians/octolings aren’t really brainwashed. At least not in a literal sense. The octarian soldiers all have free will. The Inkantation simply allowed those who hear it to be deeply invigorated and willing to break free from the structure of octarian society.
Dude, I started tearing up watching your retelling of Octo Expansion. Part of it was nostalgia, another is realizing how different Eight's life changed from living underground their whole life. I never realized the first screen you see after beating OE was Eight's first introduction to inkling society and their whole awestruck innocence is just so heartwarming
@@lusaminehqits still ebb and flow. fly octo fly is only the first part of the song before you go to shoot the hyperbombs on the head. in the demo, ebb and flow is the only motif here. not fly octo fly.
The way that the Inkantation works that I like the best is more that the Octolings were fed all of their anti-inkling propaganda so much that they could not fathom that Inklings could be as good, talented, smart, or creative as they were and that they deserved everything that the Inklings "stole" from them. However, when the Inkantation is played by the Squid Sisters, it breaks this brainwashing and makes the Octolings consider that the Inklings are not all that bad like Octavio is saying. This is probably why DJ Octavio is commonly said to not be that bad by Octolings who've served under him because DJ Octavio genuinely wants his people to survive. Still, the way he goes about doing it is to create a culture so monolithic yet apparently progressive that as it progresses forward, it continues to progress against the Inklings, meaning that whether Octavio likes it or not, the second he loses the Inklings, his society will crumble. Octavio is building his entire society on nothing more than a house of cards to keep them all above the water, but the second his house crumbles, he will have no choice but to surrender his entire society all over again to the Inklings and start fighting against them over and over and over again, for all of eternity. If he kills the Inklings, however, A) He will have to kill a lot of Octolings in the process, B) That will take a lot of resources and Octarians to fight a full-on war against the Inklings, and C) What will happen after he wins is that he won't have another society to fall back on in case his stagnates. DJ Octavio would tactically be a fool to continue his charade, but culturally and politically? I can see why he has to keep up his tough-guy attitude, he's gone way too far into what he's been doing and now cannot go back. However, I can see how Mr. Grizz could be the perfect excuse for Octavio to be like "My fellow people, the Inklings were once bad, but I have seen an even worse threat and have heard news that there could be more threats like them. I would like to hereby declare that a special team be formed to find these other threats, and cooperate with the Squid Agents or manipulate should the need and opportunity arise. That is all." Or maybe he'll genuinely surrender or he'll double down, personally, I hope that DJ Octavio finally buries the hatchet. Cap'n Cuttlefish is already retired and really old, maybe it is time DJ Octavio also retires. Maybe we could have a prequel spin-off for DJ Octavio and Cuttlefish, but for now, that'll just remain a hope.
*Splatoon In a nutshell* Any idol/cuttlefish: So what why should we pick you Agent’s 3, 4 & 8: *breathe and can understand Inkling language* The idols & cuttlefish: *captain America Material*
38:54 It makes since that he wouldn't recognize Eight since the character you play as in all the player hubs is the new Agent 3 (Neo Agent 3 dubbed by the community). Great video, this was awesome. I think it's really cool how Eight is a silent protag but far from a blank slate. She's definitely the most developed out of all the player characters in Splatoon. Agent 4 from the Splatoon 2 base story has a little bit of background and small bits of personality as well. Though it's mostly found outside of the game. For example she doesn't really watch TV or use the internet much judging by the fact she didn't know who the Squid Sisters were despite their insane fame. She spends a lot of her time participating in extracurricular activities. She's also depicted smiling in a lot of artwork. There's a lot more than that, you can find out more here if you want too: splatoonwiki.org/wiki/Agent_4 .
@crinklyonion1410 Considering that each of the Agents (3, 4, 8, Neo 3) is a character you play as in the trilogy, I honestly understand and support this. Yes, 3 and 8 have gotten a lot of screen time and have more established canon personalities, I think the gates are still wide open for players to have their own unique interpretations of 4 and Neo 3. For me, personally, I kinda enjoyed crafting 2 unique Splatoon 3 characters- The Inkling girl becomes Neo 3 and is the story mode Hero, while the Octoling Girl I normally play as is the Inkling's partner/roommate and spends most of her time helping out in Grizzco shifts.
I wouldn't be surprised if "4 not knowing Marie" also had a meta angle to it. Like... few people had a Wii U and played the 1st game (even less played the Story Mode, I imagine), so most people playing Splatoon 2 wouldn't know the Squid Sisters either.
One neat thing i noticed while playing side order is that Acht is consistently and always referred to with they/them pronouns in-game, implying that they're nonbinary! Pearl and Marina are also heavily implied to be in a relationship. The extra details in the splatoon world are so cool. Awesome video!!
Here's the thing and I'm not into the pronoun game (or the gender game for that matter) so just take my thought as just making a theory: Acht in Splatoon 2 was referred as a girl and was using the her/she pronoun in that ganr. I am assume getting sanitized got rid of what made her a female and made her non binary, thus the used of the they pronoun in Splatoon 3. Either that or the dev took advantage that it was referred as a she in the last game promotional material only.
@@Linkaro2 rlly pointless to say you're "not into the pronoun game" and speculating that post-sanitazation acht lost "what made them female" because..... nothing makes someone "female" besides how certain parts look or develop. and that's not how being genderqueer works, nothing "takes away the female" from someone. there is likely a lot we don't learn about acht, and maybe after getting to somewhat recover from being sanatized, they simply realized they don't like the idea of being seen as a man or woman. also shows a lot by constantly misgendering acht, acht was barely mentioned in splatoon 2 itself afaik, only in promo material, and there's huge chance the localized stuff used a more "conventional" pronoun since japanese can be wonky with pronouns, overall, you've got a really stupid take that is based on not understanding the very basics of genderqueer people.
I loved this video, being a long time splatoon fan (first days of the first game) and eight lover. I always thought that OE did a much better job on the story out of the DLCs, but side order just made me love the characters, the music, the game itself, even more.
honestly I think the whole "eight can somehow resist grayscaling" thing is tied to how the story interacts with their mind, like getting amnesia twice + the memcakes and chips + probably something else I forgot this is probably a really bad comparison but I've been playing ff5 recently and I think it's sort of similar to the scene with galuf and siren, being able to resist not only because there's not much mind left to corrupt in the first place but also because what there IS is so purely convicted and focused that not even the end of everything will stop them from fighting for it
The reason iso padre doesn’t wave to the player is because it is impossible to play as 8 outside of side order in splat3. Because in side order 8 is 19 I believe and around the same height as marina. You play as neo 3 everywhere else
I think it’s important to note that in Splatoon 3 outside of Side Order, you’re always playing as the main campaign’s protagonist, a whole different character that can be either Inkling or Octoling that’s using the title of Agent 3 after the old one was promoted to Captain following the events of Octo Expansion. So Iso Padre (and also Pearl and Marina) don’t recognise you because you’re literally a different person, not just figuratively like with Eight. Aside from that and some other errors like mispronounced names, wrong pronouns and it being the New Squidbeak Splatoon instead of the New Squidbeak Brigade, this is a good video and a nice refreshing insight into Eight’s story after it being so long since my playthroughs of Octo Expansion and Side Order. Keep at it man!
Ok, quick note. Acht/Dedf1sh goes by They/Them since splatoon 3. they are never referenced by her in 3. even when referencing octo expansion in 3. I know it’s a minor thing but it’s kinda important to their character
This video made me laugh, cry, and reminisce on my life. Octo Expansion came out almost 7 years ago, when I was 12. I was neck deep into Splatoon 2, as I had gotten it as a Christmas present a little more than 5 months after the games initial release. Eventually my Switch (and S2 inside of it) got pawned by my drug addict father in mid 2019, and I never got to play Splatoon 2 again. I never got to play OE, or experiences Eight’s story, or get to play as an Octoling, until September of 2022 when Splatoon 3 released. I held almost the same exact love I had for S2 for S3,, but it was different. And then. Side Order was announced, and I pre ordered it immediately. Experiencing it was so nice but, I felt lost. Never experiencing or knowing Eight’s initial introduction left me longing for understanding of why everyone praised SO so much, until this video. And now I understand it, and now I cry. I love Eight’s story so much. Thank you for making this video
I really love the characters Agent 8 and Marina. Their backstories connect to me on a really personal level. Both come from an oppressed society. And they both left it behind to have a better life. After being inspired by outside influence. I want to be like them.
Great video! Only nitpick is that octarians were NOT brainwashed, Octavio's music simply motivated them to march to the beat and stay in line, literally and metaphorically. The calamari inkantation simply motivated them to break from the chains of octarian society and go search for the surface.
There is a note, Acht willingly being sanitized was a translation error. The error was "willing to he partially sanitized," when the correct translation is "partially willing to be sanitized" She didn't choose to be sanitized, but a part of her did think it was a good thing. It's an important note to her character that a lot of the fandom doesn't know because the translator didn't get the fix out before the incorrect spread like wildfire
I really liked this! The humor breaks and the explanation of the octo expansions was really nice :D im a pretty big fan of splatoon but i cant get the octo expansion so this was really nice to learn the lore with. I definitly see you getting crazy popular soon
I'm not exactly sure what the majority of other people think, but I was pretty disappointed by Side Order. Octo Expansion, I felt, did everything right. The buildup for the climb to escape and boss battles were done so well. The Deep Sea Metro levels had just the right amount of difficulty, but still provided options to continue if you couldn't complete a level. And all the levels felt unique, but still kept to an overarching bubble that kept everything relevant, so there wasn't this twinge of repetitiveness like I felt while playing Side Order. It had the right amount of lore that was unlocked at perfectly strategic times throughout gameplay. And the whole fight to escape - The segment before acquiring a weapon was so unique and exhilarating to play. The whole Inkjet portion of the DLC was really interesting and made for some unprecedented gameplay. I could go on. Just overall an extremely well-made DLC. So when side order came out and I had to play 30 levels of somewhat indistinguishable challenges, then, essentially re-play the same Marina boss battle from the start as the main Boss Battle, I was disappointed. Don't get me wrong - I still loved Side Order and 100%'ed it. But for a DLC that is MEANT to be played multiple times to uncover lore and secrets of the game, it was pretty underwhelming. I understand that Nintendo obviously can't add new content each time the Spire is re-played and completed, but I think a little more would've done it a world of good. Yes, the new hacks and different weapons you could choose each time you entered the Spire were nice, but it just wasn't enough IMO. I'm not saying I was expecting Side Order to follow the exact same gameplay and concepts as Octo Expansion, they're different DLC's with different themes. But the jump from a very creative, content heavy DLC, to a DLC that just did not have that effect.
From the moment they added her the population of Inklings went down but a metric fụckton and octoling population skyrocketed, and nintendo has gotta give 4 some attention bruh she did not do alldat just to get overshadowed by a DLC 🙏😭, great video tho!
I wouldn’t really call neither the inkling good guy and the Octoling bad guy As it pretty apparent that both species are just fighting to survive with the Octarien having to take Drastic major causing major conflict plus agent 8 was already kind of an Octoling that was devious To here Society…
I named my Agent 8 Crimson and she moved to Splatsville with me in Splatoon 3. I had jump hoops to make the story of the series make sense alongside my personal story for agent 8.
Great summarization of Splatoon's DLCs. I'm glad you liked it. One thing I noticed was that you said that the Octarians are hypnotized which isn't true. I don't blame you for thinking that though. It's a common misconception, one I used to believe also. Octarians have free will. They just live in wht we can assume to be a militaristic society. Also the Deep Sea Metro is runned by Kamabo Co. which is runned by Commander Tar Tar. 🤓
Ooooooh, I thought Kamabo was Octavian. My And I always thought they made the whole Octavian Influence/Calimari Inkantaion magic to avoid using the example of propaganda in a kid's game and to poke at Japans surrounding countries without getting too much flak. At the end of the day, it definitely isn't like sci-fi brain washing, you're right.
Just got done playing prince of Persia lost crown $5 dlc it was so good especially considering how badly that game bombed. Some truly great dlc out there. Little nightmares and bioshock Minerva’s den and splatoon side order are some of my favorite video game experiences ever
man i will always encourage newer players or players who played splatoon 2 but never got the octo expansion to play it. it was truly a life changing experience for me and i got emotional once into the light kicked in in your video 😭 side order didn’t make me as emotional as the octo expansion but the credits scene still tugged in the heart and it was super fun. i enjoyed learning more lore about the group, as well as the e sanitization. i was especially hype to see acht as i love the octo expansion music so much and they’ve always been a cool character to me.
I feel like they knew they wanted to add a rougelike, but it's difficult to add story to something like that. Still gave me similar goosebumps to 2's end cutscenes. Can't complain too much.
God watching this just brings me back, I got Octo expansion the next day it dropped as a gift and finished it immediately in less than 24 hours tbh, I totally forgot how so so good it was It’s so worth the money and you got a cute gift from finishing them, as well with the golden toothpick was a “flex” as the time :,)
I really love the editing style here. Its always great to see this series get love Also something that caught my attention was calling the octarian soldiers brainwashed. Since octarian society seems more militaristic, I think the propaganda just has a strong grip on most of them that weren’t swayed by the inkantation. Though i suppose propaganda can be considered a type of brainwashing to some. I also think its implied that callie was the only one being brainwashed and her hypnoshades were rather based on what the elite octoling soldiers wear rather than being mass produced seeing as she’s always putting the same pair on. Edit: i see others have pointed a similar sentiment out. Hope it doesn’t feel too repetitive to come across
The fun stuff about splatoon's paywall is that, Its basicly just for customization. Yes there are stuff like armor that can boost you but theres diffrent armor to do the same exact stuff its just that its different. Lets say the Order weapons/Octo Shot yes they are not the same weapon but they are the same as the origenal weapon, like the order brush has the same moveset and stats as the octo brush ( tho i would like that the order weapons have the moveset that they have in the order sector) but yeah the olny thing is the octo shot where it ist just an order weapon tho im not sure if its any diffrent than the weapon its based of the (the model of splatoon 1 if your wondering) In splatoon 2 having the dlc was tbh more special cuz you could play a whole new race but i guess the order weapon veriants are fine :)
As someone that likes the other parts of the game, it's a huge buzz kill for me to run around the Splatoon 3 hub world and NO ONE will interact with me because I can't really justify buying online for one game every once in awhile.
I personally think that Eight is shy and doesn’t speak much but does think a lot about the world around her. Btw Acht has only specifically used they/them in English!!
Guy says getting on the train needing a ticket is paywalled... By that logic video games itself are paywalled. As is food, clothes, water, the list goes on.
I think the reason Isopadre doesn't wave to us is actually because he's blind. We meet him in the deep sea metro and many deep sea isopodes are fully blind. Or possibly he doesn't see well in the bright light of the surface.
AMAZING video. When talking about dlc, you of course must have destiny 2. Even with the paywalls, its still one of my favorite shooters along side halo. (Also the golden toothpick was so worth it. Loved the destiny 2 references)
I eventually used the term "Submissive Octavian State" but I also don't like using the term Submissive online. Had a dude want to discuss r34 posts of Nicki Minage with me one another video smh 😦
@@lessthoughtof for me i thought of it moreso of mentally trapped instead of being in a submissive state due to the constant propaganda and others since in eight's zapfish memcake it does show that they had empathy for the zapfish but they couldn't really do anything about it when eight and marina heard the inkantation alongside other octolings though, they would gain the willpower to finally leave octarian society although the other term that you used does in a way make sense, it does just sound a bit wrong also WHAT
Man I adored Splatoon 1 but Splatoon 2 just did it's story mode and dlc so well. Splatoon 3s story mode was a good change of pace and the dlc is a good challenge. I don't know if anything will ever top octo expansion.
Sry if i come off as "hmm achually 🤓 ☝️" but the octolings were never brainwashed, thats just a fan theory that gaind a LOT of traction. Listening to the inkantation simple gave them a new perspective on their society
No, I totally get it. That's what I thought it was, but there's been a lot of people in comments filling me in on things I missed, which is super cool.
@lessthoughtof Yeah, when someone who doesn't usually talk about splatoon all of a sudden does, we tend to loose our minds. But at then end of the day, we're all just really passionate about this funny litte squid game
I've been hoping they do the "alright, you guys can have the combo pack with dlc" at some point for Splatoon but I don't think we'd see that for a few years.
You know what I hated about Nintendo doing DLC initially. When you are forced to progress through the game before you can even start purchasing the DLC.
@@lessthoughtof Pretty much all the 3DS games like the fire Emblem 3DS titles, you have to reach a certain point in the story before you can start puchasing DLC content for the game. Made it really annoying to purchase and download DLC before the eShop shutdown. Nintendo made it difficult for you to give them money.
i got splatoon i dont remember when but i do re member a few days later after getting octo expansion and coming back from a caravan holiday and then having to pay for my own internet access man i hate having to pay to use your own internet
I don't believe they lost memories from brainwashing, but the phone dude apparently is the one stealing memories. The octopus guy is apparently pretty chill to his subordinates, and besides propaganda, he doesn't use any mind control or memory manipulation. Also, order was apparently created by the doubt in the hearts of the octopus people game devs making the game.
Correction: So I just found out today that Agent 3 from Splatoon 1 and 2 isn't the same Agent 3 in Splatoon 3 Agent 3 from Splatoon 1 and 2 got promoted and became the character Captain in Splatoon 3 And the Agent 3 of Splatoon 3 is just a new character entirely that happends to have the codename Agent 3 - ☝️🤓
okay, if you want a really cool silent protagonist, you should take a look at the indie action-rpg crosscode!! the MC is mute besides very, very few exceptions through the game, uses sign language sometimes, and honestly the game is just sick too. fun combat, tough puzzles.. and it's dirt cheap in the steam sale, so if you can, i'd recommend it! i think they make one of if not the most compelling silent protag i can think of. it doesn't harm her ability to be a strong character in the slightest.
Agent 3 when is not controlled by the Player is also known as the Inkling with the Biggest skill issue ever. Imagine having unlimited Specials and losing to a Random girl with serious Memory Loss that doesnt even know where she is standing
octo exp casually challenged what it means to be seen as human and the meaning of life with an octo girl fighting a telephone in heels
Yea and it was fire
i adore agent 8, and im pretty sure there’s an in universe reason to them being silent, inklings and octolings speak different languages, so agent 8 likely didn’t speak inkling
When agent 8 came to the surface, they just started learning inklish(?)! Their splatoon 2 amiibo spoke broken inklish like starfire from teen titans go. However, in splatoon 3, their amiibo speaks fluent inklish
Isn't Marina an Octoling? She talks to Pearl just fine.
@@Jinx3515I don’t think it’s exactly fluent in 3, just less broken
Yeah! There's something about that with one of the amiibos too.
@rolandodr98 she's been in inkpolis for a longer time than when they met Eight, Marina probably adapted to the language way before she and pearl met Eight.
Shout out to Agent 8.
Gotta be one of my favorite genders.
Lol
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Scary thought came into my mind.
Tartar had enough energy to destroy Inkopolis, not the world but he had enough charge to do that.
Pearl managed to outpower Tartar
...
*Pearl has canonicaly enough power to wipe out Inkopolis*
😦
That power can only be balanced by making herself dualie roll off the map in Turf Wars every time
And all of that just because she can scream.
Really loudly.
And it broke something once because she was just that loud
Other scary thought:
The material for the sanitized ink only lobotomizes octolings. If an Inkling is Sanitized, they lose all touch with reality, very hostile and territorial.
Sanitized cephalopods do not respawn
So if tarter successfully sanitized the entire earth, two things would happen
1: inklings would end up making themselves extinct, Octolings go into hiding from primal instinct
2: Inklings drive ALL cephalopods extinct
Secret third option:
The sanitized ooze fucks up the salmonids and THEY kill the cephalopods
(Which makes sense since the sanitized ooze basically waters u down to primal instinct, which for Inklings is fighting for territory, octolings is order and obedience, salmonoid is “bang this small child over the head with a frying pan”)
@@Redder_CreepsIt wasn't just something. If I remember correctly, it was a wooden bridge that was associated with one of the stages. She broke a WOODEN BRIDGE by screaming.
One of my favorite pieces of characterization for Agent 8 is in the credits for Octo Expansion. The clouds clear, and they see the sun for the first time in a long time. Everyone else is still looking at the credits but you can tell 8 is in complete awe with their mannerisms alone. It’s beautiful symbolism for how far they went to escape the metro and the bright days to come in their future.
cuttlefish actually gives them a nudge and points at the sky before the clouds clear so they could see the sun, i think its a sweet little interaction
As an agent 4 fan, I would rather be paywalled than not existing lmao
Facts haha
does agent 4 have much canon personality to be a fan of? i'd genuinely like to know. do they have some secret cool details
@@niicespiice Well one thing is that Agent 4 wasn't very cultured and aware of the Squid Sisters and stuff because she's very serious about academics and studying, such that she'd actually skip Turf Wars to study instead, and thus wasn't very in the loop on popular stuff.
@@legoboy7107Omg just like me frfr
Fun fact: Each mem cake poem line consists of 8 syllables each! (found out cause I tried to see if it was a haiku)
My favorite number
Always referred to them an "Octo Haikus" bc of that
If I'm not completely mistaken, they are haikus in german
Tartar being dead has to be the funniest part of the lore. Conceptually having an ai. who’s purpose is to spread information to the next intelligent life form so the don’t wipe themselves out like the humans. Just for Tartar to say “Na fuck it, lemmie go insane.”is hilarious 💀
The whole irony is that the reason he cites for the current lifeforms not being worthy is that they fight in pathetic squabbles over turf, but the implication is that, that is exactly why the humans (which tartar views as supreme) got wiped out in the first place.
@@jamesattack7420 He's just mad he isn't fashionable. Maybe if he had some drip he'd be sane.
@@commander.tartarmaybe if he got rid of that yee-yee ass haircut he got
At the final fight with Marina and Acht if you hear closely a reference to the final fest. While yes they speak gibberish. You can faintly hear Chaos and Order
That's pretty cool, I didn't notice that!
One lil nitpick, but the octarians/octolings aren’t really brainwashed. At least not in a literal sense. The octarian soldiers all have free will. The Inkantation simply allowed those who hear it to be deeply invigorated and willing to break free from the structure of octarian society.
One thing that is known is that the sunken NILS statue can be found on the splatoon 3 version of hammerhead bridge
Love the attention to detail.
yessssss i see that every time i play that map
Dude, I started tearing up watching your retelling of Octo Expansion. Part of it was nostalgia, another is realizing how different Eight's life changed from living underground their whole life. I never realized the first screen you see after beating OE was Eight's first introduction to inkling society and their whole awestruck innocence is just so heartwarming
i'M GLAD i WAS ABLE TO CAPTURE THAT MOMENT AND SHARE IT WITH PEOPLE!
ENDING IT OFF WITH THE DEMO OF FLY OCTO FLY
MAGNIFICENT
My favorite song, plus the iso padre appreciation. It's honestly my favorite part of the video.
u mean ebb and flow
@@pishagerudo nope I mean fly octo fly, the variant of ebb and flow played in the boss battle
@@lusaminehqits still ebb and flow. fly octo fly is only the first part of the song before you go to shoot the hyperbombs on the head.
in the demo, ebb and flow is the only motif here. not fly octo fly.
The way that the Inkantation works that I like the best is more that the Octolings were fed all of their anti-inkling propaganda so much that they could not fathom that Inklings could be as good, talented, smart, or creative as they were and that they deserved everything that the Inklings "stole" from them. However, when the Inkantation is played by the Squid Sisters, it breaks this brainwashing and makes the Octolings consider that the Inklings are not all that bad like Octavio is saying.
This is probably why DJ Octavio is commonly said to not be that bad by Octolings who've served under him because DJ Octavio genuinely wants his people to survive. Still, the way he goes about doing it is to create a culture so monolithic yet apparently progressive that as it progresses forward, it continues to progress against the Inklings, meaning that whether Octavio likes it or not, the second he loses the Inklings, his society will crumble. Octavio is building his entire society on nothing more than a house of cards to keep them all above the water, but the second his house crumbles, he will have no choice but to surrender his entire society all over again to the Inklings and start fighting against them over and over and over again, for all of eternity. If he kills the Inklings, however, A) He will have to kill a lot of Octolings in the process, B) That will take a lot of resources and Octarians to fight a full-on war against the Inklings, and C) What will happen after he wins is that he won't have another society to fall back on in case his stagnates. DJ Octavio would tactically be a fool to continue his charade, but culturally and politically? I can see why he has to keep up his tough-guy attitude, he's gone way too far into what he's been doing and now cannot go back. However, I can see how Mr. Grizz could be the perfect excuse for Octavio to be like "My fellow people, the Inklings were once bad, but I have seen an even worse threat and have heard news that there could be more threats like them. I would like to hereby declare that a special team be formed to find these other threats, and cooperate with the Squid Agents or manipulate should the need and opportunity arise. That is all."
Or maybe he'll genuinely surrender or he'll double down, personally, I hope that DJ Octavio finally buries the hatchet. Cap'n Cuttlefish is already retired and really old, maybe it is time DJ Octavio also retires. Maybe we could have a prequel spin-off for DJ Octavio and Cuttlefish, but for now, that'll just remain a hope.
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*Splatoon In a nutshell*
Any idol/cuttlefish: So what why should we pick you
Agent’s 3, 4 & 8: *breathe and can understand Inkling language*
The idols & cuttlefish: *captain America Material*
38:54 It makes since that he wouldn't recognize Eight since the character you play as in all the player hubs is the new Agent 3 (Neo Agent 3 dubbed by the community). Great video, this was awesome. I think it's really cool how Eight is a silent protag but far from a blank slate. She's definitely the most developed out of all the player characters in Splatoon. Agent 4 from the Splatoon 2 base story has a little bit of background and small bits of personality as well. Though it's mostly found outside of the game. For example she doesn't really watch TV or use the internet much judging by the fact she didn't know who the Squid Sisters were despite their insane fame. She spends a lot of her time participating in extracurricular activities. She's also depicted smiling in a lot of artwork. There's a lot more than that, you can find out more here if you want too: splatoonwiki.org/wiki/Agent_4 .
I love the "Agent 4 not knowing Marie" bit. We need more agent 4 asap.
@@lessthoughtofwe will sadly most likely never get more agent 4 content since this is the last game that will feature the squid beak splatoon 😔
I don’t care what Nintendo says about any of the characters. I’m making my own lore about them.
@crinklyonion1410 Considering that each of the Agents (3, 4, 8, Neo 3) is a character you play as in the trilogy, I honestly understand and support this. Yes, 3 and 8 have gotten a lot of screen time and have more established canon personalities, I think the gates are still wide open for players to have their own unique interpretations of 4 and Neo 3.
For me, personally, I kinda enjoyed crafting 2 unique Splatoon 3 characters- The Inkling girl becomes Neo 3 and is the story mode Hero, while the Octoling Girl I normally play as is the Inkling's partner/roommate and spends most of her time helping out in Grizzco shifts.
I wouldn't be surprised if "4 not knowing Marie" also had a meta angle to it.
Like... few people had a Wii U and played the 1st game (even less played the Story Mode, I imagine),
so most people playing Splatoon 2 wouldn't know the Squid Sisters either.
This Channel needs alot more attention. The effort and research behind this vids is insane
Glad you like it! I appreciate the massive amount support I've been getting!
One neat thing i noticed while playing side order is that Acht is consistently and always referred to with they/them pronouns in-game, implying that they're nonbinary! Pearl and Marina are also heavily implied to be in a relationship. The extra details in the splatoon world are so cool. Awesome video!!
Youre correct!! 💓 i pointed that out too 😅
Here's the thing and I'm not into the pronoun game (or the gender game for that matter) so just take my thought as just making a theory: Acht in Splatoon 2 was referred as a girl and was using the her/she pronoun in that ganr. I am assume getting sanitized got rid of what made her a female and made her non binary, thus the used of the they pronoun in Splatoon 3.
Either that or the dev took advantage that it was referred as a she in the last game promotional material only.
@@Linkaro2 rlly pointless to say you're "not into the pronoun game" and speculating that post-sanitazation acht lost "what made them female" because..... nothing makes someone "female" besides how certain parts look or develop. and that's not how being genderqueer works, nothing "takes away the female" from someone.
there is likely a lot we don't learn about acht, and maybe after getting to somewhat recover from being sanatized, they simply realized they don't like the idea of being seen as a man or woman.
also shows a lot by constantly misgendering acht,
acht was barely mentioned in splatoon 2 itself afaik, only in promo material, and there's huge chance the localized stuff used a more "conventional" pronoun since japanese can be wonky with pronouns,
overall, you've got a really stupid take that is based on not understanding the very basics of genderqueer people.
this isn’t a good thing
@@realbroboyes it is, I love them!
I loved this video, being a long time splatoon fan (first days of the first game) and eight lover.
I always thought that OE did a much better job on the story out of the DLCs, but side order just made me love the characters, the music, the game itself, even more.
For sure. Side Order did a great job at adding the good stuff to a simple roguelike.
Glad you liked the video!!
Yeah, Octo Expansion was amazing. Too bad Side Order sucked ass in every way possible, but that's just a Splatoon 3 moment
@@Freelancer837 and this is a bad take moment
honestly I think the whole "eight can somehow resist grayscaling" thing is tied to how the story interacts with their mind, like getting amnesia twice + the memcakes and chips + probably something else I forgot
this is probably a really bad comparison but I've been playing ff5 recently and I think it's sort of similar to the scene with galuf and siren, being able to resist not only because there's not much mind left to corrupt in the first place but also because what there IS is so purely convicted and focused that not even the end of everything will stop them from fighting for it
The reason iso padre doesn’t wave to the player is because it is impossible to play as 8 outside of side order in splat3. Because in side order 8 is 19 I believe and around the same height as marina. You play as neo 3 everywhere else
neo 3... I like that 😂
But yes, very true. Didn't think about that until like this morning.
I think it’s important to note that in Splatoon 3 outside of Side Order, you’re always playing as the main campaign’s protagonist, a whole different character that can be either Inkling or Octoling that’s using the title of Agent 3 after the old one was promoted to Captain following the events of Octo Expansion. So Iso Padre (and also Pearl and Marina) don’t recognise you because you’re literally a different person, not just figuratively like with Eight.
Aside from that and some other errors like mispronounced names, wrong pronouns and it being the New Squidbeak Splatoon instead of the New Squidbeak Brigade, this is a good video and a nice refreshing insight into Eight’s story after it being so long since my playthroughs of Octo Expansion and Side Order. Keep at it man!
Ok, quick note. Acht/Dedf1sh goes by They/Them since splatoon 3. they are never referenced by her in 3. even when referencing octo expansion in 3. I know it’s a minor thing but it’s kinda important to their character
Technically all Splatoon characters are paywalled because you have to pay for Splatoon games
I have to spend MONEY!?!!!?
This video made me laugh, cry, and reminisce on my life. Octo Expansion came out almost 7 years ago, when I was 12. I was neck deep into Splatoon 2, as I had gotten it as a Christmas present a little more than 5 months after the games initial release. Eventually my Switch (and S2 inside of it) got pawned by my drug addict father in mid 2019, and I never got to play Splatoon 2 again. I never got to play OE, or experiences Eight’s story, or get to play as an Octoling, until September of 2022 when Splatoon 3 released. I held almost the same exact love I had for S2 for S3,, but it was different. And then. Side Order was announced, and I pre ordered it immediately. Experiencing it was so nice but, I felt lost. Never experiencing or knowing Eight’s initial introduction left me longing for understanding of why everyone praised SO so much, until this video. And now I understand it, and now I cry. I love Eight’s story so much. Thank you for making this video
❤️❤️that's what it's all about
I really love the characters Agent 8 and Marina. Their backstories connect to me on a really personal level. Both come from an oppressed society. And they both left it behind to have a better life. After being inspired by outside influence. I want to be like them.
That's really sweet to see.
29:32 That joke was HILARIOUS - especially after the (relatively) standard way you summarized the Octo Expansion!
Great video! Only nitpick is that octarians were NOT brainwashed, Octavio's music simply motivated them to march to the beat and stay in line, literally and metaphorically. The calamari inkantation simply motivated them to break from the chains of octarian society and go search for the surface.
There is a note, Acht willingly being sanitized was a translation error. The error was "willing to he partially sanitized," when the correct translation is "partially willing to be sanitized"
She didn't choose to be sanitized, but a part of her did think it was a good thing. It's an important note to her character that a lot of the fandom doesn't know because the translator didn't get the fix out before the incorrect spread like wildfire
I really liked this! The humor breaks and the explanation of the octo expansions was really nice :D im a pretty big fan of splatoon but i cant get the octo expansion so this was really nice to learn the lore with. I definitly see you getting crazy popular soon
Thankyou!!! Glad you like the bits.
I'm not exactly sure what the majority of other people think, but I was pretty disappointed by Side Order. Octo Expansion, I felt, did everything right. The buildup for the climb to escape and boss battles were done so well. The Deep Sea Metro levels had just the right amount of difficulty, but still provided options to continue if you couldn't complete a level. And all the levels felt unique, but still kept to an overarching bubble that kept everything relevant, so there wasn't this twinge of repetitiveness like I felt while playing Side Order. It had the right amount of lore that was unlocked at perfectly strategic times throughout gameplay. And the whole fight to escape - The segment before acquiring a weapon was so unique and exhilarating to play. The whole Inkjet portion of the DLC was really interesting and made for some unprecedented gameplay. I could go on. Just overall an extremely well-made DLC.
So when side order came out and I had to play 30 levels of somewhat indistinguishable challenges, then, essentially re-play the same Marina boss battle from the start as the main Boss Battle, I was disappointed. Don't get me wrong - I still loved Side Order and 100%'ed it. But for a DLC that is MEANT to be played multiple times to uncover lore and secrets of the game, it was pretty underwhelming. I understand that Nintendo obviously can't add new content each time the Spire is re-played and completed, but I think a little more would've done it a world of good. Yes, the new hacks and different weapons you could choose each time you entered the Spire were nice, but it just wasn't enough IMO.
I'm not saying I was expecting Side Order to follow the exact same gameplay and concepts as Octo Expansion, they're different DLC's with different themes. But the jump from a very creative, content heavy DLC, to a DLC that just did not have that effect.
29:01 you can actually revisit this boss fight later after you clear the tower for the first time! Same with the final fight with Order also
From the moment they added her the population of Inklings went down but a metric fụckton and octoling population skyrocketed, and nintendo has gotta give 4 some attention bruh she did not do alldat just to get overshadowed by a DLC 🙏😭, great video tho!
Keep up the grind bro. The algorithm will eventually pick it up 👏🏽. Your content is🔥
Thankyou!! I hope so!
I wouldn’t really call neither the inkling good guy and the Octoling bad guy
As it pretty apparent that both species are just fighting to survive with the Octarien having to take
Drastic major causing major conflict plus agent 8 was already kind of an Octoling that was devious
To here Society…
A bit too goofy for the regime 😎
Just wanted to say, act is nonbinanry and goes by they/them 🎀 cool video!
The metal gear solid reference when eight dies is so cool
So true. Not that I'm bad at the game or anything but most character will God "eight? EIGHT!?!" it's cute.
Lol yeah
WHY DID I JUST REALISE EIGHT IS LOCKED BY A PAYWALL-
Because you pre-ordered the dlcs?
@@TheDumbTwin nahh
Gosh, Octo Expansion end makes me so excited
I named my Agent 8 Crimson and she moved to Splatsville with me in Splatoon 3. I had jump hoops to make the story of the series make sense alongside my personal story for agent 8.
If Nintendo decides to continue the splatoon story. I hope they do more with Eight’s story. I really do like their storyline in the splatoon series.
Yeah, it's a great character! I would like to see more agent 4 though.
@@lessthoughtof I still find it funny that they were supposed to be security for the memverse, but all we get was their pallet.
@@chinook3.0Clearly Agent 4 still doesn't know how to use a computer, so we're stuck with Parallel Canon...
I love splatoon, I remember only playing story mode for a while since we didn’t have online, and beaten the game before i even played online
Great summarization of Splatoon's DLCs. I'm glad you liked it. One thing I noticed was that you said that the Octarians are hypnotized which isn't true. I don't blame you for thinking that though. It's a common misconception, one I used to believe also. Octarians have free will. They just live in wht we can assume to be a militaristic society.
Also the Deep Sea Metro is runned by Kamabo Co. which is runned by Commander Tar Tar. 🤓
Ooooooh, I thought Kamabo was Octavian. My
And I always thought they made the whole Octavian Influence/Calimari Inkantaion magic to avoid using the example of propaganda in a kid's game and to poke at Japans surrounding countries without getting too much flak. At the end of the day, it definitely isn't like sci-fi brain washing, you're right.
Just got done playing prince of Persia lost crown $5 dlc it was so good especially considering how badly that game bombed. Some truly great dlc out there. Little nightmares and bioshock Minerva’s den and splatoon side order are some of my favorite video game experiences ever
4:34 "I'm talking about..." *awesome music followed by the sloppiest burps*
It's straight from the single-player trailer lol.
What a good video about Splatoon lore, not many bring this level of attention to this topic, thanks
Glad you liked it!!
Octo expansion still makes me so nastolgic, I almost cried watching the ending again. I dont think ill ever *not* cry over the ending.
I tear up a bit too rewatching it 🥲
re-watching the ending of octo expansion in this video had me so emotional again 6 years later :’)
It always gets me too 🥲
This guy’s humor, commentary, and editing style are great😭
Love the ending segment to this video, you are truly talented
19:21 "Payload mechanics" (Fight songs starts playing)
man i will always encourage newer players or players who played splatoon 2 but never got the octo expansion to play it. it was truly a life changing experience for me and i got emotional once into the light kicked in in your video 😭 side order didn’t make me as emotional as the octo expansion but the credits scene still tugged in the heart and it was super fun. i enjoyed learning more lore about the group, as well as the e sanitization. i was especially hype to see acht as i love the octo expansion music so much and they’ve always been a cool character to me.
the content of the dlc for 2 was a whole new-ass game for me, the expansion dlc for 3 i felt ripped off
I feel like they knew they wanted to add a rougelike, but it's difficult to add story to something like that. Still gave me similar goosebumps to 2's end cutscenes. Can't complain too much.
This video feels super professional! So when I saw that the channel was small I was shocked. You make 100k subscriber quality content‼️
Thanks! Glad it's blowing up!
God watching this just brings me back, I got Octo expansion the next day it dropped as a gift and finished it immediately in less than 24 hours tbh, I totally forgot how so so good it was It’s so worth the money and you got a cute gift from finishing them, as well with the golden toothpick was a “flex” as the time :,)
Ikr
06:44 might've been the greatest dlc to ever bless a videogame
All splatoon characters are technically paywalled since you have to spend money to buy the game
I really love the editing style here. Its always great to see this series get love
Also something that caught my attention was calling the octarian soldiers brainwashed. Since octarian society seems more militaristic, I think the propaganda just has a strong grip on most of them that weren’t swayed by the inkantation. Though i suppose propaganda can be considered a type of brainwashing to some. I also think its implied that callie was the only one being brainwashed and her hypnoshades were rather based on what the elite octoling soldiers wear rather than being mass produced seeing as she’s always putting the same pair on.
Edit: i see others have pointed a similar sentiment out. Hope it doesn’t feel too repetitive to come across
Yeah, I did figure out it's just propaganda but they do a decent job at making it mysterious.
Another phenomenal video, been loving your content
Thankyou!! glad you like it
I really like this style of content from you. Your edits are so funny and cultured 🔥
I really appreciate that! Honestly, I don't think I want to make content if it wouldn't make me laugh. That's kinda my baseline. Thx!!
The fun stuff about splatoon's paywall is that, Its basicly just for customization. Yes there are stuff like armor that can boost you but theres diffrent armor to do the same exact stuff its just that its different. Lets say the Order weapons/Octo Shot yes they are not the same weapon but they are the same as the origenal weapon, like the order brush has the same moveset and stats as the octo brush ( tho i would like that the order weapons have the moveset that they have in the order sector) but yeah the olny thing is the octo shot where it ist just an order weapon tho im not sure if its any diffrent than the weapon its based of the (the model of splatoon 1 if your wondering) In splatoon 2 having the dlc was tbh more special cuz you could play a whole new race but i guess the order weapon veriants are fine :)
“And quietly sends you on your way.”
this video is so charming and perfectly paced - well done!
Glad you liked it!!
This is a feature I just hope they remove entirely online shouldn’t be behind a paywall😭
By entirely i mean the paywall not online itself
As someone that likes the other parts of the game, it's a huge buzz kill for me to run around the Splatoon 3 hub world and NO ONE will interact with me because I can't really justify buying online for one game every once in awhile.
I personally think that Eight is shy and doesn’t speak much but does think a lot about the world around her. Btw Acht has only specifically used they/them in English!!
This was amazing! I hope this gets the attention it deserves 🐙
i just realized that cuddlefish uses the bamboozler as a caine
The bamboozler is my fav
21:20 It's not sunset, it's sunrise
Fair, I didn't notice that.
Splatoon is a paid game therefore technically ALL characters are behind paywalls?
🤯
Guy says getting on the train needing a ticket is paywalled...
By that logic video games itself are paywalled.
As is food, clothes, water, the list goes on.
@@optimize0 yes thats kind of what i just said
I’m probably a little biased cause I love destiny but these videos are amazing. Keep going ‼️‼️‼️
I'm glad you like them! If it's something that'll make me laugh, I assume someone else will too.
Good writing, good visuals, good audio. Superb video!!
Thankyou thankyou
The trailer for octo expansion dropped the day I beat vice city, from one 80s aesthetic game to another lmao
Love that lol
I listen to this music in my free time, way too much
The pic of commemoration and the root reference caught me off guard 😂
the splatoon intro gave me creepy 3am adult swim vibes
I think the reason Isopadre doesn't wave to us is actually because he's blind. We meet him in the deep sea metro and many deep sea isopodes are fully blind. Or possibly he doesn't see well in the bright light of the surface.
AMAZING video. When talking about dlc, you of course must have destiny 2. Even with the paywalls, its still one of my favorite shooters along side halo. (Also the golden toothpick was so worth it. Loved the destiny 2 references)
I tried going for the toothpick after uploading ☠️☠️☠️
hearing someone call eight brainwashed is like a flashbang
they are NOT brainwashed, same thing with marina
I eventually used the term "Submissive Octavian State" but I also don't like using the term Submissive online. Had a dude want to discuss r34 posts of Nicki Minage with me one another video smh 😦
@@lessthoughtofI get it but brainwashed is like the biggest stretch of the work submissive
@@lessthoughtof for me i thought of it moreso of mentally trapped instead of being in a submissive state due to the constant propaganda and others since in eight's zapfish memcake it does show that they had empathy for the zapfish but they couldn't really do anything about it
when eight and marina heard the inkantation alongside other octolings though, they would gain the willpower to finally leave octarian society
although the other term that you used does in a way make sense, it does just sound a bit wrong
also WHAT
Call of duty
Man I adored Splatoon 1 but Splatoon 2 just did it's story mode and dlc so well. Splatoon 3s story mode was a good change of pace and the dlc is a good challenge. I don't know if anything will ever top octo expansion.
Sry if i come off as "hmm achually 🤓 ☝️" but the octolings were never brainwashed, thats just a fan theory that gaind a LOT of traction. Listening to the inkantation simple gave them a new perspective on their society
No, I totally get it. That's what I thought it was, but there's been a lot of people in comments filling me in on things I missed, which is super cool.
@lessthoughtof Yeah, when someone who doesn't usually talk about splatoon all of a sudden does, we tend to loose our minds. But at then end of the day, we're all just really passionate about this funny litte squid game
Pikmin 3 got the pay wall fixed in the deluxe version so thats cool :)
I've been hoping they do the "alright, you guys can have the combo pack with dlc" at some point for Splatoon but I don't think we'd see that for a few years.
You know what I hated about Nintendo doing DLC initially. When you are forced to progress through the game before you can even start purchasing the DLC.
What game was that?
@@lessthoughtof Pretty much all the 3DS games like the fire Emblem 3DS titles, you have to reach a certain point in the story before you can start puchasing DLC content for the game. Made it really annoying to purchase and download DLC before the eShop shutdown. Nintendo made it difficult for you to give them money.
As someone who's two main games are destiny 2 and splatoon, I loved some of these jokes. I didn't think anyone else like me existed lol.
I'm glad some people did I was worried the jokes would be too niche 😅
i got splatoon i dont remember when but i do re member a few days later after getting octo expansion and coming back from a caravan holiday and then having to pay for my own internet access
man i hate having to pay to use your own internet
I don't believe they lost memories from brainwashing, but the phone dude apparently is the one stealing memories. The octopus guy is apparently pretty chill to his subordinates, and besides propaganda, he doesn't use any mind control or memory manipulation.
Also, order was apparently created by the doubt in the hearts of the octopus people game devs making the game.
Correction:
So I just found out today that Agent 3 from Splatoon 1 and 2 isn't the same Agent 3 in Splatoon 3
Agent 3 from Splatoon 1 and 2 got promoted and became the character Captain in Splatoon 3
And the Agent 3 of Splatoon 3 is just a new character entirely that happends to have the codename Agent 3
- ☝️🤓
It would have cooler if Agent 3 suddenly woke up, and went along side Agent 8 to take down the NILS statue together.
Ok also acht didn't willingly sanitize themselves. They weren't completely opposed to the idea of being sanitized.
I am reading more abt it now, I never knew that.
I love these destiny 2 references, the "no salvation?" One sent me cackling
Big destiny 2 guy.
@@lessthoughtof they call me 'Add clear Anderson'
by this logic every single nintendo character is paywalled
dont stop making these fire videos bro!! you gon be big one day i can feel it 🤩
You already know haha!
It's a lot of extra content. I love the dlc and hope they keep doing it.
It is nice, I don't see myself not buying it for the Splatoon series going forward.
I almost forgot this was a splatoon video at first LMAO
Laughed at the sniper 2008 car bit, goo job
I don't even play TF2, and I love the game.
@@lessthoughtof that's insane. TF2 brain rot can reach so far
okay, if you want a really cool silent protagonist, you should take a look at the indie action-rpg crosscode!! the MC is mute besides very, very few exceptions through the game, uses sign language sometimes, and honestly the game is just sick too. fun combat, tough puzzles.. and it's dirt cheap in the steam sale, so if you can, i'd recommend it! i think they make one of if not the most compelling silent protag i can think of. it doesn't harm her ability to be a strong character in the slightest.
As a sims player this is unfortonatly normal to me
Agent 3 when is not controlled by the Player is also known as the Inkling with the Biggest skill issue ever.
Imagine having unlimited Specials and losing to a Random girl with serious Memory Loss that doesnt even know where she is standing
Agent 8 is relatable. so relatable to -e. I love the-
I know this is random, but fighting overlorder was probably harder than fighting thunderblight from botw 😭 well for me at least
I get that. It all really comes down to your pallette.
Splatoon 3: Side Order 🤝 Honkai: Star Rail Penacony Arc
Beating order with music
I got it and I still stick with inklings oh so I was the first one to get octalings