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if everything we got in updates was in the base game but we got no updates would that be better? try to be more realistic, mf just complained about every single weapon returning in the base game and wanted them in updates instead, in splatoon 2 everyone complained about old weapons returning in updates, make your fucking mind up
@@twoloavesofbreadthats forgivable for s1 cause it was the first and no one had a wiiu. It was forgivable for s2 cause this was most of the player bases first game. S3 has no excuse lacking content on an established, popular IP on an established popular console
I feel like s3 just had a lot of missed potential. Like it’s barely enough to be a proper sequel to s2 but it could’ve been infinitely more. It’s a game that frustrates me because of it’s missed potential.
I blame the maps. Nintendo hired beginner map designers for Splatoon back in 2022, they're not integrated into the surroundings, AND they barely utilize the new features that were introduced.
@@coldfanta4963 True that. But also some content was scrapped. Like new modes for regular battles and salmon. They're most likely saving it for S4. Which is kinda sad cause like the other comment said "S3 is barely enough to be a proper sequel to the second game" and they're right. S3 is just S2.9 (like an expansion of an expansion) with revamps of modes and BAD revamps of older maps. They couldn't even get the game to have 3rd kits even though S3 loves the number 3.
@@FreshFalcon splatoon 3 lacks identity. Very few features in splatoon 3 even the new ones (aside from s order) will be looked back on and seen as "yup this was created in splatoon 3"
@@theotherjared9824 It's an average game. You can still like it, but you can't deny that almost every positive thing about it has something holding it back from being an excellent game.
@@theotherjared9824 oh usually people put that as like a correction for typos and stuff so I took it as you saying like 'no, this game is great you're wrong' mbad
@@yayaya2321 ???? so you just didnt play the game, you cant tell me new and old mahi are comparable, or old and new omami, or old and new barnicle and dime
so what? maybe incomparable but, they're still just not good bc they're very highly cramped and only have one route. ramen is just a *maybe* better musselforge fitness, which isn't saying much LMAO
The GrandFest made me realize that I would DIE for Deep Cut. And for Off The Hook. And for the Squid Sisters. And for Acht. And for DJ Octavio. And for the Callie plush that drinks all your Pepsi and calls you a b*tch. Edit: and for Small Fry
I’m absolutely certain a big part of why Future got zero points is because they got shafted in their own game. Sidelined in their own game’s story mode to put more Squid Sisters was such a bad move. And since Squid Sisters just won the final fest, it’s safe to say I don’t see Deep Cut ever returning. The Squid Sisters will probably take up most of Splatoon 4’s story mode too, overshadowing whatever idols that game will have as well. A very very unfortunate fate for what could’ve been another great idol group Buff the Splattershot Nova
They may return. I mean they're team future and the future is S4. I get what you mean though. This game should've been atleast 3 years on dev work, made a wave 3 surrounding Deep cut, OR should've had more time with them during the story (have the squid sisters less time. Just switch amount of time is what I mean)
@@plasma263 I think they're saying that regardless of who won, Splatoon 4 is literally in the future. People keep assuming the final fest definitely means the next game takes place in the past, but... we don't know that? The final fest in Splatoon 1 only affected the story mode. Splatoon 2's final fest affected the setting of Splatoon 3 but not the main story mode, really... Maybe only the story mode of S4 takes place in the past. Maybe Past winning means the next game takes place in Inkopolis as its main setting. None of these suggest that Deep Cut won't ever return when they can still appear in the mainline story or dlc
@@sasukeissocoollikenintendo said this was the end of the main trilogy and splatoon 4 will be something new, so no, no more deep cut unless it's cameos and eastereggs :') And if the game doesn't actually take place in the past then maybe descendants
@@Honeybunny_bun Source? The most they said was that ROTM "was the end of this splat-tastic saga!" which for all we know could just be the end of the Inklings vs. Octarians plotline? Like, it's WAY too vague to make any actual concrete assumptions yet. Also, the Splatoon series time-wise progresses at the same rate as the real world (2 years passing for us is the same as 2 years passing for them in-universe), so I seriously doubt it's going to go back to the past, maybe doing that descendants thing like you mentioned.
ngl I feel bad for missing the entirety of spla3 active development, I bought the game in late 2022 on time to the first splatfest, playing for 10 hours and not touching it for 2 whole years, ngl I'm a bit sad
Same. I was on a break from Splatoon 2 and thought 3 would bring me back, but after a short while I just fell off again. Then suddenly 2 years passed and there is a final fest going on.
Don't feel bad lol I got the game on launch, maxed out the catalog for the first season and dropped it until final fest basically. Game disappointed the shit out of me. This is the conclusion to the main trilogy of splatoon games? Genuinely insulting imo, even if the main gameplay is splatoon at its best the things revolving AROUND said gameplay are the series at its worst.
Yall didn't miss much tbh 😅 the maps, the stages you most likely would've played on for the majority of the time in S3, are cramped and unbalanced (map designs favor long-range weapons such as in mincemeat and crableg), matchmaking is unbalanced (especially in Turf War), salmon run's reward system is egregious and way too grindy, side order's story is short and hollow with repetitive/redundant gameplay with lack of strong incentive.........yeah. I think you dodged a bullet. From personal experience, it's a very frustrating game to play because of its foundational issues, issues that have barely been properly addressed in its life cycle.
Great video Mr. Spaceman. A lot of the issues you talked about in this video really represent my reasons for falling off this game way quicker than I did with Splatoon 2, even though I liked this game way more than Splatoon 2, funny how that works. Also everyone describing the Grand Festival as the best thing ever makes me so sad because I missed it since I was busy that weekend. :((
big run having predetermined goals is absolutely a good change, the constant anxiety of being just one egg off was awful, so not knowing and it being arbitruary and still unknown would still be awdul still, they absoluterly made the right decision
Yeah. When horrorboros dropped, I was grinding out matches with a team until the very end, and we went through hell...only to find out we were 2 eggs away from the gold threshold when the results dropped :-/ Very much felt like getting smacked by a curve that Overfishers set until Splat3 started listing the thresholds outright.
Very true! I was extremely pissed when I missed the gold threshold by like 1-10 eggs in the first big run, so much that I kind of just dropped the game completely and never picked it up again until grand fest lol
@@gengarfluid overfishers don't affect the general curve, they're vastly VASTLY outnumbered by normal players... it's like saying top players determine the splatfest winners... they're mathematically insignificant. It's the slightly above average players that affect the curve the most
@@sasukeissocoollikeIt's not even that, the system in itself was flawed. The prize system required atleast half of the playerbase that participated in the event to do worse than you in order for you to receive a prize. It's the same reason why Splatfests are so toxic. Even with an even vote participation, 66.6% of the playerbase that participated will lose each time. When systems like these are created and unchecked, unintentionally or not, a disappointed or toxic community is to be expected.
Bought on launch as my first splatoon game, had great fun. First season came out, it was all good. Second season i played ranked, made it to S rank with aero spray, went insane, became toxic(I've never played a pvp shooter before), bit my switch in two due to the m a d n e s s, started liking pearl because i found out she said that "charger mains should use a real weapon"(which should say enough about how i feel about them), and stopped playing Ranked because I stopped having fun, but these aren't even the main reasons i quit. The maps... I got tired of every map being a tetris block. There really isn't anything i can say. Saw the trailer for one of the last seasons, saw a map shaped like a tetris Z, and closed the video.
After two years, it’s clear that EPD 5 should've supported Animal Crossing: New Horizons for longer & save Splatoon 3 for the Switch 2's first year (especially when the system was supposedly delayed to next year due to a lack of software). Not that I hate Splatoon 3, but it never truly lived up to its potential......nor did they buff the Nova Shot. The game clearly needed more time in the oven to think through certain aspects of the game, namely the level & kit design.
Failed entirely in the customization and kits aspect, though I don't care about kits because I'm a casual player I can understand why some people would want them. It feels forcefully competitive and it seems that's the only thing it has going for itself if you're a competitive player, everything else has seemingly gone the wind...
The customization is great wym? A lot of gear, you can make unique characters with all the skin tones, eye color and eyebrows, th addition of lockers and splash tags are great. The only thing I think we need is more hairstyles and pants options.
@@BigPro1123 Yes more legwear and hairstyles is what I'm truly waiting for. The customization is not that good imo because a lot of the shirts don't look good with the black training shorts/pants or even the sweat pants. It would look a lot better and natural with actual jeans skirts maybe even dresses ect
Yea most of the kits in this game have some dysfunctional, shitty/toxic, or just unfun gameplans, wish there was some real variety Edit: yeah also leg wear feels hyper not well rounded enough, it leans too far into sporty clothing
@@Aloratoolush there's a crap ton of formal wear but unfortunately no dressy slacks or socks to go with said formal wear, same sorta deal with the t shirts, a lot of them feel drab without maybaps some jeans, maybe belts and stuff, like idk maybe I want to wear a tshirt but make it stand out more by wearing more belts than sol badguy from guilty gear or something.....well you get the point lmfao. Here's to hoping sploon 4 will really lock in with the options Have a good day as well :)
@@mps64 Scorch Gorge is god awful on Tower Control, I almost always get spawn camped and the third checkpoint is way too close to the end goal. This map alone makes the mode unplayable on certain rotations.
The slow rollout of updates really ruined the maps for me it took way too long for them to add a roster of maps that weren't long hallways or for them to fix/adjust those long hallway maps. I had already spent most of my time with the game fighting uphill battles against chargers and splatlings by the time they fixed things. It just simply was not fun to play and I ended up dreading having to get on to grind my catalog and ranked. P.S I also was one of five novashot users I do wish they had buffed it at some point.
While I don't want tricolor to return, I think ultra signals should become a regular in splatfests alongside fizzbangs. It would really do a to make splatfests feel special alongside addressing the whole "losing in the last minute" problem which haunts turf war.
Despite not always being super popular, Deep Cut will always be my favorite idol group. Maybe it’s because they’re a trio or because of their unique personalities, but their music and vibes always made me smile. 🦑❤️😊
3 minutes WOOOOOO- but more seriously, I feel like we should think about what the team behind splatoon has been doing? the same team works on both animal crossing and splatoon, and while i want to say that there low upkeep of both splatoon 3 and animal crossing points towards an new animal crossing game on new hardware launch (judging by older game release)... it kinda feels the team has been doing so much "not upkeep" that it could be that either the team has been cut down significantly, or that they are dropping animal crossing and splat 4 both as hardware launch... maybe im overthinking it. tell me if i've done a stupid and missed something i really want to understand what going on man :(
It's less that EPD 5 is less of a team & more of a shared pool of talent that Splatoon & Animal Crossing draw from. That said, they do share 30-40% of their staff between any given project, which is larger percentage than games from different EPD divisions.
2:00 shoutout to when they spent 10 seconds showing this feature in the trailer instead of showing any of the locker or splashtag decorations 6:00 comp has a rule where you can opt out of screen at least
I made a whole ass video talking about all my grievances with the game (let alone all the things the game doesn't do well) and I can summarize it here because it's on a whole ass different language and I don't expect you to watch it anyway lmfao The biggest mistake in this game is the matchmaking. Without a doubt. Like you said: We can't expect anyone to make a perfect ranked system, but holy fucking shit, bro. How do they actually DOWNGRADE from what we had before? There was absolutely nothing wrong with S2's ranked system and matchmaking. If glicko2 was a thing AT ALL in S3, then it sure didn't make itself noticed, because in Open you can get literally anyone queueing up at the same time as you do from any rank, regardless of where anyone is, making for some of the most atrocious lobbies I've ever seen and Series is just so lenient with making people go up in rank that the majority of the playerbase is in A, S or S+ with S+ being way too big for no real reason and having the biggest skill gap between the worst player and best player. What was wrong with the system in S2? Nothing much... except it was hard to go up in rank, and that's not something you want for player retention, because people will feel like they're in ELO hell and drop the game. So they go and flip to the other extreme, where everyone goes up and now they're stuck somewhere they shouldn't be. Like, really? Removing deranks from losing? Who the fuck thought that was a good idea? Maps were trash, new movement mechanics were shafted because of the maps, kit balance was all over the place, game STILL is too special focused, some weapons feel like absolute garbage to play, splatfests suck and tricolor maps just weren't a nice draw compared to shifty stations, some subs feel like garbage and are left like garbage for NO real reason (toxic mist could easily be buffed and they just don't want to), most gear abilities are outright useless, too much cheesing, too little counterplay a lot of times... literally missed potential: The game. An iterative game like this has no excuses in undoing the good past iterations did for no real reason. Don't buff the nova. Just make a whole new weapon. That shit goes straight to the trash.
Seems like Captain was a bit hit or miss with that Nova Shot, makes sense to want to buff the Nova Shot. I am one of the odd folks who watched a lot from Splatoon 2-3, but only played 1. So this is a great video to see what this is like from a more experienced perspective. Also, just getting to hear Spaceman talk about stuff for a while is nice, you got a great speaking cadence and your jokes are 98% hit 2% miss. Well done on the video, and I always look forward to what you make next!
This game was doo doo horsewater and I don't expect 4 to be a better game unless they actually remember that map design is the most important aspect of a multiplayer game.
the worst part is that the maps looked super promising in the initial reveal trailer (only scorch but still) It was open and filled to the brim with alternate pathways and shit, something extremely reminiscent of Splatoon 1. They completely ruined it at launch. That map designer job position that opened shortly after the reveal was such a bad omen in retrospect
At least in the last few seasons they cooked up some fire maps with crableg, robo ramen, and marlin. And made umami, barnacle, undertow and mahi plus a few others a lot better.
no the most important part is movement, there is a reason for this game stayed fun even when the maps were garbage in the early seasons, its because the game feel and balancing is very good
Due to this video I learned that Zach Scott, the first TH-camr I was a fan of and basically raised me as a wholesome and family friendly let’s player is now posting some down horrendous tweets on SPLATOON CHARACTERS and ELEPHANT DAISY.
@@phoenixmorphix I would been like 6 or something at the time and I saw my sister watching his captain toad let’s play. Even though it wasn’t even that entertaining I just thought “I NEED to watch this” Zach Scott is probably a part of why I got into gaming in general.
Splatoon 3 had so much missed potential that everyone noticed it even little timmy. Big runs felt more special than splatfests since everything it came around something new was getting added to the mode while splatfests only added something truly new in the grand festival. Splatoon 2 has a gap on the other splatoons on splatfests.
The wait for Bamboozler to get one extra kit was so painful... us Bamboozler mains got shafted. Also I am in love with Frye. Also also, don't... make fun of the Recycled Brella. I love it.
Haven't finished watching but if I don't nitpick this immediately I'll go crazy. At 22:49 the FF in the Ferrari FF doesn't stand for 'Front Front' (although it's front-engined, it isn't front-wheel drive), it stands for 'Ferrari Four'. Love the video so far but unfortunately I have to unsubscribe now
21:38 "The coolest thing about Side Order was the concept art they put in the trailer." TRUEEE. Those early art pieces were so evocative, they really pulled you in and got you excited for what you hoped was a deeper story. Sadly, it really was just an epilogue to Octo Expansion. Don't get me wrong, it was certainly a good idea to try to give closure to all those Octolings who got sanitized in the past and help them heal - lovely concept. But other than that, very little actual story content.
To this day it still blows my mind that the chill season 2023 trailer showed off screen and not splashdown. Like genuinely, wtf were they thinking? Even ignoring all of screen's issues, why on earth did they show off this weird new special and not the incredibly hype returning one? Did they think it putting it in the trailer would get more people to like it? Cause obviously it didn't, lol. There's many things about splatoon that confuse me but that honesty might be the biggest one.
The things about splatoon 3 is that I feel the devs had a lot of ideas on how they wanted the game to be but it just feels like there was just a lot of missed potential. I feel like they wanted to do certain things in the game but then mysteriously dropped them for some reason (probably time constraints). I don’t dislike the game but I wish they did a lot more with what they had.
So funny when people still call Splatoon 2 Splatoon 1.5 when Salmon Run alone was more successful and impactful than every new Splatoon 3 feature combined. If Splatoon 2 is splat 1.5 then Splatoon 3 is splat 1.75
Both splatoon sequels have felt like a .5 edition of the previous game at launch, until enough updates come out for it to feel somewhat different. What sucks about 3 is that nearly every meaningful new addition was either limited time or came with it's own share of frustrations.
Buff the Nova Shot!!! Now that we got the obvious good idea out of the way, I'll be completely honest, I dropped this game back around March of this year for Foamstars. You know that bit at the end of the first part of this duology? That but unironically lmao. I can only speak for myself, but splatoon 3 is, hands down, the most miserable I've ever been playing a video game. Between my issues with the game itself, my personal horrible interactions I've had in the community, and the community itself being so casually.....crass (let's just leave it at that. And no, don't parasocially read into this too much, I'm a gay man, alright? Woke is a stupid ass term for stupid ass people, lmao. Just felt the need to clarify that because it IS the internet after all), I'm sat here wondering why I should even care about this series anymore after the shitshow known as splatoon 3 (and no commenters, "ignore the community" doesn't work with a genre of games that is inherently community based. If there are not enough players in a community, the MULTIPLAYER game cannot happen). Obviously, I care about this series, I wouldn't be typing this whole soliloquy out otherwise, but the best, I guess, thing I can do is only hope splatoon 4 is in the oven for more than what felt like a year of development time. Thanks for reading, and fuck splatoon 3, but maybe fuck yeah splatoon 4
> Fuck splatoon 3 (Give this man a TRUE!) One thing that cpt didn't really cover is how much of a downgrade the spl3 community was in comparison to 2. Got a high level friend who quit because he's tired of the frauds running the show, in general nearly everyone in this community is a dramatic pos who hangs onto every word and testicle hair of their favorite yter. These things don't resolve themselves naturally unfortunately and that sucks cause I met some great spl2 friends that I still talk with, and I think sploon is that much better (or tolerable in 3's case) with friends. Here's to hoping for the best both gameplay wise and community wise in the future, never forget what brought us to this point, good and bad
splatoon 3 is one of the most disappointing games I’ve ever played tbh over 1000 hours and yet the entire game feels undercooked, and yet people clammer for splatoon 4 like this won’t happen again. seriously considering not supporting the franchise anymore after this, really dissapointed
Fell off of Splatoon 3 pretty hard unfortunately. The main thing is that I am ABSOLUTELY TRASH at Splatoon and the general grind for leveling up, getting properly geared up took forever (is it a hot take to say I hate the gear system in Splatoon?) and getting drip-fed rewards from the catalogue all just made playing the game feel so much more like a chore compared to the first two games which already had that same issue before only. So I'd just get stomped repeatedly while making meager progress towards rewards. It seriously burned me out and eventually I really only booted the game up for Splatfests, I didn't even try Big Run when it was available lol. It's probably my own fault, my internet isn't ideal, I only really played turf war, and my scrubby attitude towards the game didn't help at all but I just really didn't enjoy myself much at all in the last couple sessions that I played (including the final Splatfest) so I might just be straight up done with Splatoon, at least for the foreseeable future. IDK maybe they could save it if they just buff the nova shot.
FYI: making this comment after watching roughly halfway through this video (right after the side order review but before the Fresh season review). I was a huge Splatoon 2 fan back when the game first launched on Switch. Before Smash Ultimate was released, it was my most played game on the console clocking in on almost 500 hours. When Splatoon 3 came around, I played it a lot before ultimately stopping altogether after the first 3 seasons with 100 hours. (This was mainly due to my interests in games changing at the time and playing super long JRPGs such as Xenoblade Chronicles 3, Persona 5, etc took a priority.) I came back for side order but didn't touch the multiplayer but I started to REALLY get back into the game recently after the amazing Grandfest performance. After not playing the game for over a year I had a lot of fun seeing all the new weapons, stages, and customization to the game. In regards to Captain Astronaut's main point of criticism regarding how Splatoon 3 doesn't have a completely new mode compared to its predecessors, I agree but I don't see that as a bad thing. I think the amount of stuff/QOL features that Splatoon 3 was able to improve upon with its predecessors did so much for my enjoyment of the game to the point where I wouldn't be able to go back to Splatoon 2. That to me would make for a. better sequel than if they did make a completly new mode for the game but didn't really improve upon the content of the previous games. But yeah great retrospective Astronaut
I agree with everything you say. The QOL is amazing. Squid rolling makes the movement feel super fluent. I’m fine with no new multiplayer mode as if it’s bad it might make you play the game less. Another game I love to play forced us to play their new modes and it resulted in the lowest player count they’ve seen.
I was so confused when people (and even some squad mates) gassed up splatoon 3 so much back at launch, when it didn't seem to have much distinct from splatoon 2. I wonder what they're thinking now. I'm also confused what people saw and expected back then.
While I'm upset that team Future lost, I do have a theory about team Past winning. The Splatoon team seems to care deeply about the world building, sometimes at the cost of gameplay or what other people want. Like how in a lobby there's holograms of people instead of actual people, even though we know the system could run it. I think when we go to the past, rules and regulations for turf war won't have been established yet, including kits. Kind of like the "wild west" of turf war. I think they may allow us to make our own kits, with the other balance parameters in play. I'm not too versed in kits, but let's say you Wanted a roller with burst bomb and kraken special. Each weapon would have a "points to special" value, which also coincides with the specials own "points to special" stat. So you had a good weapon, it'd take forever to charge a good special if you paired them together. Same would apply to Sub ink consumption and cooldowns. I don't mind having premade kits, but a problem with them is that they're pressured to come up with new ones and even when they do, there are plenty that just won't be fun for a lot of people. I played far more Splatoon 2 simply because it had kits I liked better. I used to be against custom kits, but if there's a good trade-off system that takes both weapon utility and special utility into consideration, it's rife with possibilities. I'd also like to see abilities tuned up too, I feel like a lot of them are far too situational and simply aren't worth equipping. Especially abilities that benefit from teammates dying. Those don't have any place in a semi-competitive shooter.
My hope for Splat 4 is to never see the Squid Sisters in the main story. Or ever again. As a Deep Cut fan not only do I feel underserved by Nintendo, I feel spurned by the rest of the fandom. 0 points for the Splatfest? It would be funny if it weren’t so sad. And it’s weird that all the story and development for Off The Hook are paywalled, right? And if you’re gonna do that in Splat 2, least you could do is give Deep Cut a role in the DLC of their own game!
I think you only spurn yourself more by just declaring the Squid Sisters stop existing, whom a large majority of people love (including myself!) like you're not making it easy on yourself man. I also like Deep Cut (Frye is such a goober I love her), but I still don't feel the absolute shafting other fans of them seem to think they've gotten. Maybe underutilized, but not just thrown aside. I may be wrong but I think they have more dialogue written for their news reports than any other group.
@@squiddu I was probably too hyperbolic in my emotional state. Not never again, but not in the main campaign again. All idols deserve their spot in the sun. Including Off The Hook being allowed to be characters in a main story outside of DLC.
The update cycle really makes me wonder if this was meant to be a sacrificial title in the series, like a way to temper expectations for the next game while making the wait for the next title more bearable. Makes sense if they’re trying hard to jump ship and make 4 far better than 3 ever could be.
I'm already not playing Splatoon 3 that much after the Grand festival. Splatoon 2 had me playing a lot more past its content cycle. It's really sad cus Splatoon 3 is the better game but how it was handled really rubbed me the wrong way. Also FUCK SPLATANA STAMPER!!! 🗣️ 📢📢📢
27:06 FOR REAL DUDE THE MATCHMAKING IS SO DOG, why is it every other game I'm going up against people with GOLD X BADGES?! I am a 1900-2000 XP player AT BEST, HELLO?!
"ain't nobody listening to Side Order music outside of the game" Oct0pticon tho Buff the Nova, Tri String, Swig, Pain, H3, L3, Curling Bomb, Sprinkler, Toxic Mist, Intensify Action, Thermal Ink, Gambit, Ability Doubler (make it Tripler), and the maps (we need more paths c'mon)
I'll be honest. I burned myself out on splatoon. I got so sick of grinding for Battle pass slop, sick of DCs and being punished for it, sick of hownlong everything took to obtain I just put the game down, never looked back
Everything Splatoon 3 did could EASILY have just been DLC for Splatoon 2. Squid Surge is so pointless outside of singleplayer since the multiplayer maps have ZERO verticality or every wall is uninkable to force you the long way around through a chokepoint. Honestly it would not shock me in the least if this game started off as Splatoon 2 DLC but ballooned into a separate game because money. Splatoon 3 is a fitting title because that's its overall ranking of the 3 games. 3rd place. For Splatoon 4 they NEED to abandon the seasonal catalog FOMO aspect and do what they did for Wellstring and Splatana, give us both kits right away (which was the biggest omen of third kits not happening), then add 3rd and even 4th kits as the game goes on.
I still love S3 the most out of all 3, but I recognize that it needed more time in the oven. The movement is super refined, but the maps suck. The gunplay is great, but too many are undertuned or had bad kits and never got their time in the sun. Tbh i never had a problem with the catalog, but casual players seemed to hate it! And I think that’s emblematic of the issue here, the devs saw people with maxed out money at the end of S2 and decided to make everything a competitive grind. Scale rewards, badges, even shell-out rewards take forever to get, and nearly every event is a competition between players (setting a goal like with the final big run was perfect). For me with over 1000 hours I don’t mind every map throwing me into a fight, but other options are basically impossible on maps without flanks. They should’ve waited to start development on the new system, where we could’ve had bigger maps and supported the game for longer. I don’t understand why so many people are clamoring to have S4 so soon. If that’s really being worked on now, it’ll end up rushed just like every other game in the series.
you are so right about side order just feeling like an s2 epilogue. i've talked to other people about this and they haven't seemed to agree, but i still feel like splatoon 3 is just splatoon 2 2. which is also ironic because people said splatoon 2 was splatoon 1.5???? idk. i wish side order had less reusage of splatoon 2 musical motifs and themes. i wish it had a more unique theme. it's just "order is bad." that's it. AND ALSO 50% OF THE PEOPLE IN SPLATOON 2 VOTED FOR ORDER, SO WHAT A SLAP IN THE FACE NINTENDO. THANKS
I think you got the wrong idea. The idea is ACTUALLY "order CAN be good, but you can't force everyone to do exactly what you want otherwise the world just becomes boring and bleak", not "order bad and smelly f*ck you team order"
I loved the hell out of Splatoon 1 and 2, but when I got 3, I was just so underwhelmed and frustrated with the boring map design, and piss poor match making. After losing way more matches than I was winning (as a B+ player usually) I just, never picked up the game again. There was a period where I wanted to get all of the cool stuff from the catalogues, but once I found out just how much time you need to sink into this game, I just never bothered.
I’ve had so much fun these past 2 years. Grand fest was literally so much fun and the music was amazing! Though I love deep cut they’re my favorite and seeing them get side lined so much in their own game really made me feel bad for them. (yes I know they’re fictional.) in my opinion deep cut should’ve had their own final fest then the team could be based off of Marie Pearl and the winner of the deep cut FF for grand fest. They wouldn’t even need to go as hard as they did for chaos Vs order. Then the fact that for the final video of the splatfest they didn’t even make the art deep cut where as sploon 1 got squid sisters and 2 got pearl and Marina.
53:22 holy crap you really are old who the hell still does the whole "meeehhh sonics stupid friends wheee" argument in 2024 Sonics friends are what make Sonic so great. The same goes for the idols for splatoon stories. Ya don't gotta force include everyone, but Sonic doesn't do that anyways, so this is an odd example
"Was Splatoon 3 saved?" It's ended so probably no. No more major updates and we're still missing half of the maps from the last 2 games along with weapon kits that should have been here by now. A lot of the "Fresh New updates" Where just releasing old content that should have been there from the start and when they did finally start adding In new content they ended the game. Tragic really. Good game but lacks way too much content for absolutely no reason.
good job on the vid, i can tell on how a lot of effort was spent for this one! i don't agree with a lot of your points, but i think you succeeded on making a video that promotes retrospective action however, i think you spent a lot of time focusing on the "missed potentials" of the game rather than what the game actually does provide one example would be the Side Order segment: you spent a lot of time talking about what the DLC "could" be, but not about what the DLC actually is (which is providing a new twist in the Splatoon formula, etc etc), so i felt like it was lacking overall though, your video is great! you should be proud of what you've done, regardless of my personal feelings with it
53:58 Tbh I don’t think Nintendo is too worried about getting new players bc splatoon is so big (in Japan) like they were already planning splat 2 before the annocment for final fest in splat1, tbh with how rushed splat3 feels I wouldn’t be surprised if they’ve started development on splat 4
Buff the nova shot! I think splatoon 3 is okay overall as a successor to 2, but as a comp player, the map design never really being fixed is disappointing. Too many maps funnel you through the middle of the map or through a chokepoint to get to the enemy's side. It leads to most maps feeling pretty samey and makes any weapon without a bomb or strong special like zooka or crab feel terrible to play, since you'll have to brute force with quick respawn or wait for a mistake from the other side to get anything done. That all wouldn't be too bad if splatoon had a built-in comm system like every other shooter lol. Fingers crossed map design give more ways to approach in 4
I 5-starred the vanilla undercover (surprisingly fun, I'm shocked too) and I'd sell my soul for viable buffs. Brellas are shotguns, let the whole class be lethal at point blank, like the tenta brella. And buff the nova shot!
Ive almost completely missed everything after the first couple seasons or so (the only catalog i completed was the first chill season) I agree as there is a ton of missed potential. About the part where you talked about how weapons should "feel good" Ive been thinking about how awesome it would be to add a ton of OP specials/subs to the game or at least to a specific mode and make the game infinitely more chaotic "since splatoon 3 was supposed to be "chaos" themed since pearl won the last final fest) I for sure wouldve played the game a LOT more if that was the case, I know team past won the grand fest (i was on team past myself lol) but just maybe splatoon 4 could incorporate something like that into the core gameplay?
The Nova shot does need to be buffed FR. I used to play A LOT of Splatoon, but as soon as Monster Hunter came out on Switch I ended up falling wayyyyy off.
Splatoon 3: the most underwhelming Splatoon game. Updates in the past splatoon games kept me excited and engaged while Splatoon 3's updates made me feel underwhelmed and not that excited, i only got back into the game by dropping off the game for awhile and coming back for the last season... Sigh Honestly the stages are like the worst part of the game for me, i wish there was more variety ....
Buff the NovaShot. Unironically one of my favorite weapons that embodies the supposed Chaotic theme of this game. Love being effectively a glorified recon bot
I feel like the Deep cut problem wasn't a problem with the news being skipable but the fact that both the story modes didn't focus on them at all and instead focused on characters that were already developed which gave them no time for players to see any sort of relationship between the three unless it was in the most inconvenient part of the game (the news I can skip since I'm gonna see the stages in rotation before the match anyways). I dont think side order needs to chage to incorporate them really but if I was to redo the story mode i would have them be helping the squid beak splatoon. Give them an opportunity to Interact with established characters and the player. Maybe for certain segments of the levels and bosses let you use there powers and give context to their origins since its where there powers come from and for the purpose of placing them more naturally into the story and world we already know.
i agree with most of your points but 8 person salmon run would have the switch blow up in your hand it can barely handle four people with the amount of salmon you fight 😭
Splatoon 3 was my first splatoon game so I never got the full context for just how much people might me "disappointed' in Splat 3. Though I guess for my own two cents... I feel like I kinda fell off of it purely because competitive shooters aren't my big thing, but I also LOVE Splatoon's world and the core gameplay itself.
Splatoon 3 is still solidly a splatoon game, most newcomers love this game, so don't worry too much! Most reviews will compare and contrast sequels to their predecessors, but as a first game I'd imagine it's great besides how fast you get thrown into the blender in multiplayer Hope you have a good day
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You forgot to talk about how they completely fumbled the new big run reward system when it was first implemented
“This should have been in the game at launch” is the ultimate motto of splatoon 3
if everything we got in updates was in the base game but we got no updates would that be better?
try to be more realistic, mf just complained about every single weapon returning in the base game and wanted them in updates instead, in splatoon 2 everyone complained about old weapons returning in updates, make your fucking mind up
tbf, this is kind of the ultimate motto of every Splatoon game
@@twoloavesofbreadthats forgivable for s1 cause it was the first and no one had a wiiu. It was forgivable for s2 cause this was most of the player bases first game. S3 has no excuse lacking content on an established, popular IP on an established popular console
@@spanishginger were choosing when its acceptable and when its not now huh
@@السراقالمجهولyeah, it's almost as if there are different contexts to the different scenarios, and not a black and white law
Really fun review to watch and your explanation for the main weapons definitely explains a lot of why Season 8 hit different.
hello youtuber man
@@Megastar54 hello megastar
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hello chara and i agree with your opinion on sizzle 24
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I feel like s3 just had a lot of missed potential. Like it’s barely enough to be a proper sequel to s2 but it could’ve been infinitely more. It’s a game that frustrates me because of it’s missed potential.
I blame the maps. Nintendo hired beginner map designers for Splatoon back in 2022, they're not integrated into the surroundings, AND they barely utilize the new features that were introduced.
@@coldfanta4963 True that. But also some content was scrapped. Like new modes for regular battles and salmon. They're most likely saving it for S4. Which is kinda sad cause like the other comment said "S3 is barely enough to be a proper sequel to the second game" and they're right. S3 is just S2.9 (like an expansion of an expansion) with revamps of modes and BAD revamps of older maps. They couldn't even get the game to have 3rd kits even though S3 loves the number 3.
@@FreshFalcon splatoon 3 lacks identity. Very few features in splatoon 3 even the new ones (aside from s order) will be looked back on and seen as "yup this was created in splatoon 3"
Tony, is that you!?!?
I think it serves as a good sequal, just having missed potential that could be felt
Splatoon 3: "Why does everything have a 'But' to it" Edition
Splatoon 3: A great game*
@@theotherjared9824 It's an average game. You can still like it, but you can't deny that almost every positive thing about it has something holding it back from being an excellent game.
@@MattisticStatistic that's why I put the asterisk in there.
@@theotherjared9824 oh
usually people put that as like a correction for typos and stuff so I took it as you saying like 'no, this game is great you're wrong'
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The best most disappointing good game ever fucking made in history
It doesn't even come close to Tears of the Kingdom in that regard.
@@LordSerperior1 with totk I also agree a lot it being a massive damn disappointment good game lol‼️
@@LordSerperior1fuck I’m not crazy! I’m not the only one who think TOTK is disappointing as hell
Biggest disappointment was the maps. They all feel the same. Even the returning Splatoon 1 maps have a lot of what made them unique taken out.
i mean they fixed them (mostly) in the last season
they didn't fix them at all, every map is still just as garbage as they were on release
@@yayaya2321 ???? so you just didnt play the game, you cant tell me new and old mahi are comparable, or old and new omami, or old and new barnicle and dime
@@yayaya2321 bro never heard of robo romen
so what? maybe incomparable but, they're still just not good bc they're very highly cramped and only have one route. ramen is just a *maybe* better musselforge fitness, which isn't saying much LMAO
The GrandFest made me realize that I would DIE for Deep Cut. And for Off The Hook. And for the Squid Sisters. And for Acht. And for DJ Octavio. And for the Callie plush that drinks all your Pepsi and calls you a b*tch.
Edit: and for Small Fry
You forget someone 💀
@@guillermocervisalmeron2209 oh right, sorry
I’m absolutely certain a big part of why Future got zero points is because they got shafted in their own game. Sidelined in their own game’s story mode to put more Squid Sisters was such a bad move.
And since Squid Sisters just won the final fest, it’s safe to say I don’t see Deep Cut ever returning. The Squid Sisters will probably take up most of Splatoon 4’s story mode too, overshadowing whatever idols that game will have as well. A very very unfortunate fate for what could’ve been another great idol group
Buff the Splattershot Nova
They may return. I mean they're team future and the future is S4. I get what you mean though. This game should've been atleast 3 years on dev work, made a wave 3 surrounding Deep cut, OR should've had more time with them during the story (have the squid sisters less time. Just switch amount of time is what I mean)
@@FreshFalcon What are you talking about?? team past won
@@plasma263 I think they're saying that regardless of who won, Splatoon 4 is literally in the future. People keep assuming the final fest definitely means the next game takes place in the past, but... we don't know that? The final fest in Splatoon 1 only affected the story mode. Splatoon 2's final fest affected the setting of Splatoon 3 but not the main story mode, really... Maybe only the story mode of S4 takes place in the past. Maybe Past winning means the next game takes place in Inkopolis as its main setting. None of these suggest that Deep Cut won't ever return when they can still appear in the mainline story or dlc
@@sasukeissocoollikenintendo said this was the end of the main trilogy and splatoon 4 will be something new, so no, no more deep cut unless it's cameos and eastereggs :')
And if the game doesn't actually take place in the past then maybe descendants
@@Honeybunny_bun Source? The most they said was that ROTM "was the end of this splat-tastic saga!" which for all we know could just be the end of the Inklings vs. Octarians plotline? Like, it's WAY too vague to make any actual concrete assumptions yet. Also, the Splatoon series time-wise progresses at the same rate as the real world (2 years passing for us is the same as 2 years passing for them in-universe), so I seriously doubt it's going to go back to the past, maybe doing that descendants thing like you mentioned.
ngl I feel bad for missing the entirety of spla3 active development, I bought the game in late 2022 on time to the first splatfest, playing for 10 hours and not touching it for 2 whole years, ngl I'm a bit sad
same, i never really *hated* the game, but could never really commit to it. I would play for a week and never get the motivation to play for months.
Same. I was on a break from Splatoon 2 and thought 3 would bring me back, but after a short while I just fell off again. Then suddenly 2 years passed and there is a final fest going on.
Don't feel bad lol
I got the game on launch, maxed out the catalog for the first season and dropped it until final fest basically. Game disappointed the shit out of me. This is the conclusion to the main trilogy of splatoon games? Genuinely insulting imo, even if the main gameplay is splatoon at its best the things revolving AROUND said gameplay are the series at its worst.
Yall didn't miss much tbh 😅 the maps, the stages you most likely would've played on for the majority of the time in S3, are cramped and unbalanced (map designs favor long-range weapons such as in mincemeat and crableg), matchmaking is unbalanced (especially in Turf War), salmon run's reward system is egregious and way too grindy, side order's story is short and hollow with repetitive/redundant gameplay with lack of strong incentive.........yeah. I think you dodged a bullet. From personal experience, it's a very frustrating game to play because of its foundational issues, issues that have barely been properly addressed in its life cycle.
Well you didn't really miss that much. Big big run was probably the most important ones you missed AND the Grand Festival
Great video Mr. Spaceman. A lot of the issues you talked about in this video really represent my reasons for falling off this game way quicker than I did with Splatoon 2, even though I liked this game way more than Splatoon 2, funny how that works.
Also everyone describing the Grand Festival as the best thing ever makes me so sad because I missed it since I was busy that weekend. :((
big run having predetermined goals is absolutely a good change, the constant anxiety of being just one egg off was awful, so not knowing and it being arbitruary and still unknown would still be awdul still, they absoluterly made the right decision
Yeah. When horrorboros dropped, I was grinding out matches with a team until the very end, and we went through hell...only to find out we were 2 eggs away from the gold threshold when the results dropped :-/
Very much felt like getting smacked by a curve that Overfishers set until Splat3 started listing the thresholds outright.
Very true! I was extremely pissed when I missed the gold threshold by like 1-10 eggs in the first big run, so much that I kind of just dropped the game completely and never picked it up again until grand fest lol
@@gengarfluid overfishers don't affect the general curve, they're vastly VASTLY outnumbered by normal players... it's like saying top players determine the splatfest winners... they're mathematically insignificant. It's the slightly above average players that affect the curve the most
@@sasukeissocoollikeIt's not even that, the system in itself was flawed.
The prize system required atleast half of the playerbase that participated in the event to do worse than you in order for you to receive a prize.
It's the same reason why Splatfests are so toxic. Even with an even vote participation, 66.6% of the playerbase that participated will lose each time.
When systems like these are created and unchecked, unintentionally or not, a disappointed or toxic community is to be expected.
Bought on launch as my first splatoon game, had great fun. First season came out, it was all good. Second season i played ranked, made it to S rank with aero spray, went insane, became toxic(I've never played a pvp shooter before), bit my switch in two due to the m a d n e s s, started liking pearl because i found out she said that "charger mains should use a real weapon"(which should say enough about how i feel about them), and stopped playing Ranked because I stopped having fun, but these aren't even the main reasons i quit.
The maps... I got tired of every map being a tetris block. There really isn't anything i can say. Saw the trailer for one of the last seasons, saw a map shaped like a tetris Z, and closed the video.
S rank aero spray is crazy. (you're my hero 🥹)
After two years, it’s clear that EPD 5 should've supported Animal Crossing: New Horizons for longer & save Splatoon 3 for the Switch 2's first year (especially when the system was supposedly delayed to next year due to a lack of software). Not that I hate Splatoon 3, but it never truly lived up to its potential......nor did they buff the Nova Shot. The game clearly needed more time in the oven to think through certain aspects of the game, namely the level & kit design.
Yeah...
Third kits are over people, pack it up and go home! 😔
YES ONE HOUR LETS GO I LOVE DISSING SPLATOON 3 AND AGREEING WITH PEOPLE
It sounds like this game isn't beating the splatoon 2.5 allegations
Failed entirely in the customization and kits aspect, though I don't care about kits because I'm a casual player I can understand why some people would want them. It feels forcefully competitive and it seems that's the only thing it has going for itself if you're a competitive player, everything else has seemingly gone the wind...
The customization is great wym? A lot of gear, you can make unique characters with all the skin tones, eye color and eyebrows, th addition of lockers and splash tags are great. The only thing I think we need is more hairstyles and pants options.
@@BigPro1123 Yes more legwear and hairstyles is what I'm truly waiting for. The customization is not that good imo because a lot of the shirts don't look good with the black training shorts/pants or even the sweat pants. It would look a lot better and natural with actual jeans skirts maybe even dresses ect
Yea most of the kits in this game have some dysfunctional, shitty/toxic, or just unfun gameplans, wish there was some real variety
Edit: yeah also leg wear feels hyper not well rounded enough, it leans too far into sporty clothing
@@jakett2216exactly what I mean, I don't think everyone is into that sort of fashion style it needs so much more variety in clothing aesthetics
@@Aloratoolush there's a crap ton of formal wear but unfortunately no dressy slacks or socks to go with said formal wear, same sorta deal with the t shirts, a lot of them feel drab without maybaps some jeans, maybe belts and stuff, like idk maybe I want to wear a tshirt but make it stand out more by wearing more belts than sol badguy from guilty gear or something.....well you get the point lmfao. Here's to hoping sploon 4 will really lock in with the options
Have a good day as well :)
I love that they made the map design significantly worse
its fun that later on this just doesn't apply mweheheheheheh
@@squidduyeah a lot of the maps have been made better and marlin airport is one of my new favorite stages
@@squidduyeah too bad they didn't really fix their mistakes with the old stages
Scorch Gorge is still trash 💔
@@squiddu yes it does?? the new maps are still extremely cramped and don't have any alternate routes to take
@@mps64 Scorch Gorge is god awful on Tower Control, I almost always get spawn camped and the third checkpoint is way too close to the end goal. This map alone makes the mode unplayable on certain rotations.
I’VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS!
The slow rollout of updates really ruined the maps for me it took way too long for them to add a roster of maps that weren't long hallways or for them to fix/adjust those long hallway maps. I had already spent most of my time with the game fighting uphill battles against chargers and splatlings by the time they fixed things. It just simply was not fun to play and I ended up dreading having to get on to grind my catalog and ranked. P.S I also was one of five novashot users I do wish they had buffed it at some point.
how many maps are long hallways? its just eeltail and hammerhead what are you talking about?
While I don't want tricolor to return, I think ultra signals should become a regular in splatfests alongside fizzbangs. It would really do a to make splatfests feel special alongside addressing the whole "losing in the last minute" problem which haunts turf war.
I miss Ark Polaris. Really thought we’d get it back.
Yeah but the King Salmonids wouldn’t work on it
Especially Joe, they’d have to extend him a LOT due to the height
Despite not always being super popular, Deep Cut will always be my favorite idol group. Maybe it’s because they’re a trio or because of their unique personalities, but their music and vibes always made me smile. 🦑❤️😊
Omg im not the only who felt like the matching has gone to shit
3 minutes WOOOOOO-
but more seriously, I feel like we should think about what the team behind splatoon has been doing?
the same team works on both animal crossing and splatoon, and while i want to say that there low upkeep of both splatoon 3 and animal crossing points towards an new animal crossing game on new hardware launch (judging by older game release)... it kinda feels the team has been doing so much "not upkeep" that it could be that either the team has been cut down significantly, or that they are dropping animal crossing and splat 4 both as hardware launch... maybe im overthinking it. tell me if i've done a stupid and missed something i really want to understand what going on man :(
It's less that EPD 5 is less of a team & more of a shared pool of talent that Splatoon & Animal Crossing draw from. That said, they do share 30-40% of their staff between any given project, which is larger percentage than games from different EPD divisions.
I love the astronaut man and his opinion on the squid game
Splattercolor Screen gives me sensory Overload. Not as bad anymore but exposure therapy isn't something that should be happening in Splatoon
shut up
2:00 shoutout to when they spent 10 seconds showing this feature in the trailer instead of showing any of the locker or splashtag decorations
6:00 comp has a rule where you can opt out of screen at least
I made a whole ass video talking about all my grievances with the game (let alone all the things the game doesn't do well) and I can summarize it here because it's on a whole ass different language and I don't expect you to watch it anyway lmfao
The biggest mistake in this game is the matchmaking. Without a doubt. Like you said: We can't expect anyone to make a perfect ranked system, but holy fucking shit, bro. How do they actually DOWNGRADE from what we had before? There was absolutely nothing wrong with S2's ranked system and matchmaking. If glicko2 was a thing AT ALL in S3, then it sure didn't make itself noticed, because in Open you can get literally anyone queueing up at the same time as you do from any rank, regardless of where anyone is, making for some of the most atrocious lobbies I've ever seen and Series is just so lenient with making people go up in rank that the majority of the playerbase is in A, S or S+ with S+ being way too big for no real reason and having the biggest skill gap between the worst player and best player.
What was wrong with the system in S2? Nothing much... except it was hard to go up in rank, and that's not something you want for player retention, because people will feel like they're in ELO hell and drop the game. So they go and flip to the other extreme, where everyone goes up and now they're stuck somewhere they shouldn't be. Like, really? Removing deranks from losing? Who the fuck thought that was a good idea?
Maps were trash, new movement mechanics were shafted because of the maps, kit balance was all over the place, game STILL is too special focused, some weapons feel like absolute garbage to play, splatfests suck and tricolor maps just weren't a nice draw compared to shifty stations, some subs feel like garbage and are left like garbage for NO real reason (toxic mist could easily be buffed and they just don't want to), most gear abilities are outright useless, too much cheesing, too little counterplay a lot of times... literally missed potential: The game. An iterative game like this has no excuses in undoing the good past iterations did for no real reason.
Don't buff the nova. Just make a whole new weapon. That shit goes straight to the trash.
also I miss when there were less weapon types so you had more choices of sub/special loadouts with the same main
THE HOMOPHOBIC DOG AT 22:11 I CANT 😭
wait do people not have side order music in their regular music playlist?? I already listen to music like sorder music so maybe its just me
Seems like Captain was a bit hit or miss with that Nova Shot, makes sense to want to buff the Nova Shot. I am one of the odd folks who watched a lot from Splatoon 2-3, but only played 1. So this is a great video to see what this is like from a more experienced perspective. Also, just getting to hear Spaceman talk about stuff for a while is nice, you got a great speaking cadence and your jokes are 98% hit 2% miss. Well done on the video, and I always look forward to what you make next!
This game was doo doo horsewater and I don't expect 4 to be a better game unless they actually remember that map design is the most important aspect of a multiplayer game.
the worst part is that the maps looked super promising in the initial reveal trailer (only scorch but still)
It was open and filled to the brim with alternate pathways and shit, something extremely reminiscent of Splatoon 1. They completely ruined it at launch.
That map designer job position that opened shortly after the reveal was such a bad omen in retrospect
At least in the last few seasons they cooked up some fire maps with crableg, robo ramen, and marlin. And made umami, barnacle, undertow and mahi plus a few others a lot better.
robo romen?
no the most important part is movement, there is a reason for this game stayed fun even when the maps were garbage in the early seasons, its because the game feel and balancing is very good
@@BigPro1123 those maps are not good, they still suffer from being way too cramped + only one route to take
Due to this video I learned that Zach Scott, the first TH-camr I was a fan of and basically raised me as a wholesome and family friendly let’s player is now posting some down horrendous tweets on SPLATOON CHARACTERS and ELEPHANT DAISY.
Right 😭 I used to watch his splatfest videos 😭
@@phoenixmorphix nah u don’t understand, Zach Scott was literally the reason I started watching TH-cam
@@Theonlypik fr???
@@phoenixmorphix I would been like 6 or something at the time and I saw my sister watching his captain toad let’s play. Even though it wasn’t even that entertaining I just thought “I NEED to watch this” Zach Scott is probably a part of why I got into gaming in general.
@@phoenixmorphix I can at least understand Splatoon characters but ELEPHANT DAISY???
Splatoon 3 had so much missed potential that everyone noticed it even little timmy. Big runs felt more special than splatfests since everything it came around something new was getting added to the mode while splatfests only added something truly new in the grand festival.
Splatoon 2 has a gap on the other splatoons on splatfests.
The wait for Bamboozler to get one extra kit was so painful... us Bamboozler mains got shafted. Also I am in love with Frye. Also also, don't... make fun of the Recycled Brella. I love it.
3:30 I am literally just now learning about this. And I’ve been playing Splatoon since 2015 😐🤦♀️
i assume most of the gear isn't still avaliable... i only ever got the grandfest gear from this because i never actually click on the news
@@niicespiiceall of it is still available
Haven't finished watching but if I don't nitpick this immediately I'll go crazy. At 22:49 the FF in the Ferrari FF doesn't stand for 'Front Front' (although it's front-engined, it isn't front-wheel drive), it stands for 'Ferrari Four'. Love the video so far but unfortunately I have to unsubscribe now
shame, althought you can't truly blame the *space* man for not understanding our grounded vehicles
21:38 "The coolest thing about Side Order was the concept art they put in the trailer." TRUEEE. Those early art pieces were so evocative, they really pulled you in and got you excited for what you hoped was a deeper story. Sadly, it really was just an epilogue to Octo Expansion. Don't get me wrong, it was certainly a good idea to try to give closure to all those Octolings who got sanitized in the past and help them heal - lovely concept. But other than that, very little actual story content.
"No more Splatfests!"
That's it. You're not cooking no more.
To this day it still blows my mind that the chill season 2023 trailer showed off screen and not splashdown. Like genuinely, wtf were they thinking? Even ignoring all of screen's issues, why on earth did they show off this weird new special and not the incredibly hype returning one? Did they think it putting it in the trailer would get more people to like it? Cause obviously it didn't, lol.
There's many things about splatoon that confuse me but that honesty might be the biggest one.
Big Swig CAN kill in 1 hit, but a vertical flick is required at point-blank range, if I remember right.
i LOVE splatoon 3 but i have much more fond memories of splatoon 2. really wish the update cycle and content added was more substantial
My favorite black guy in a helmet!!!
he's not black he's an astronaut
@@Qrangg gonna put my ethnicity as an astronaut on my next job application, thanks for the tip
@@gengarfluid np
The things about splatoon 3 is that I feel the devs had a lot of ideas on how they wanted the game to be but it just feels like there was just a lot of missed potential. I feel like they wanted to do certain things in the game but then mysteriously dropped them for some reason (probably time constraints). I don’t dislike the game but I wish they did a lot more with what they had.
I feel like Nintendo wants to kill the game that attracts openly queer people everywhere.
So funny when people still call Splatoon 2 Splatoon 1.5 when Salmon Run alone was more successful and impactful than every new Splatoon 3 feature combined. If Splatoon 2 is splat 1.5 then Splatoon 3 is splat 1.75
Both splatoon sequels have felt like a .5 edition of the previous game at launch, until enough updates come out for it to feel somewhat different.
What sucks about 3 is that nearly every meaningful new addition was either limited time or came with it's own share of frustrations.
Buff the Nova Shot!!!
Now that we got the obvious good idea out of the way, I'll be completely honest, I dropped this game back around March of this year for Foamstars. You know that bit at the end of the first part of this duology? That but unironically lmao.
I can only speak for myself, but splatoon 3 is, hands down, the most miserable I've ever been playing a video game. Between my issues with the game itself, my personal horrible interactions I've had in the community, and the community itself being so casually.....crass (let's just leave it at that. And no, don't parasocially read into this too much, I'm a gay man, alright? Woke is a stupid ass term for stupid ass people, lmao. Just felt the need to clarify that because it IS the internet after all), I'm sat here wondering why I should even care about this series anymore after the shitshow known as splatoon 3 (and no commenters, "ignore the community" doesn't work with a genre of games that is inherently community based. If there are not enough players in a community, the MULTIPLAYER game cannot happen).
Obviously, I care about this series, I wouldn't be typing this whole soliloquy out otherwise, but the best, I guess, thing I can do is only hope splatoon 4 is in the oven for more than what felt like a year of development time.
Thanks for reading, and fuck splatoon 3, but maybe fuck yeah splatoon 4
> Fuck splatoon 3
(Give this man a TRUE!)
One thing that cpt didn't really cover is how much of a downgrade the spl3 community was in comparison to 2. Got a high level friend who quit because he's tired of the frauds running the show, in general nearly everyone in this community is a dramatic pos who hangs onto every word and testicle hair of their favorite yter. These things don't resolve themselves naturally unfortunately and that sucks cause I met some great spl2 friends that I still talk with, and I think sploon is that much better (or tolerable in 3's case) with friends. Here's to hoping for the best both gameplay wise and community wise in the future, never forget what brought us to this point, good and bad
Catalogue = Battle Pass
Doesn't matter what a company calls it, it's Anti Consumer at it's core, and makes games a *chore* rather than an escape
splatoon 3 is one of the most disappointing games I’ve ever played tbh
over 1000 hours and yet the entire game feels undercooked, and yet people clammer for splatoon 4 like this won’t happen again.
seriously considering not supporting the franchise anymore after this, really dissapointed
real
they took away the SOVL
6:25 very funny how you throw a wavebreaker after mentioning it
Weapon feel is totally a thing in TPS/FPS as a genre. Gets discussed pretty often in different communities.
Fell off of Splatoon 3 pretty hard unfortunately. The main thing is that I am ABSOLUTELY TRASH at Splatoon and the general grind for leveling up, getting properly geared up took forever (is it a hot take to say I hate the gear system in Splatoon?) and getting drip-fed rewards from the catalogue all just made playing the game feel so much more like a chore compared to the first two games which already had that same issue before only. So I'd just get stomped repeatedly while making meager progress towards rewards. It seriously burned me out and eventually I really only booted the game up for Splatfests, I didn't even try Big Run when it was available lol.
It's probably my own fault, my internet isn't ideal, I only really played turf war, and my scrubby attitude towards the game didn't help at all but I just really didn't enjoy myself much at all in the last couple sessions that I played (including the final Splatfest) so I might just be straight up done with Splatoon, at least for the foreseeable future. IDK maybe they could save it if they just buff the nova shot.
This is the last place I would expect to see you lol
FYI: making this comment after watching roughly halfway through this video (right after the side order review but before the Fresh season review).
I was a huge Splatoon 2 fan back when the game first launched on Switch. Before Smash Ultimate was released, it was my most played game on the console clocking in on almost 500 hours. When Splatoon 3 came around, I played it a lot before ultimately stopping altogether after the first 3 seasons with 100 hours. (This was mainly due to my interests in games changing at the time and playing super long JRPGs such as Xenoblade Chronicles 3, Persona 5, etc took a priority.) I came back for side order but didn't touch the multiplayer but I started to REALLY get back into the game recently after the amazing Grandfest performance. After not playing the game for over a year I had a lot of fun seeing all the new weapons, stages, and customization to the game.
In regards to Captain Astronaut's main point of criticism regarding how Splatoon 3 doesn't have a completely new mode compared to its predecessors, I agree but I don't see that as a bad thing. I think the amount of stuff/QOL features that Splatoon 3 was able to improve upon with its predecessors did so much for my enjoyment of the game to the point where I wouldn't be able to go back to Splatoon 2. That to me would make for a. better sequel than if they did make a completly new mode for the game but didn't really improve upon the content of the previous games. But yeah great retrospective Astronaut
I agree with everything you say. The QOL is amazing. Squid rolling makes the movement feel super fluent. I’m fine with no new multiplayer mode as if it’s bad it might make you play the game less. Another game I love to play forced us to play their new modes and it resulted in the lowest player count they’ve seen.
@@BigPro1123what game was it by chance?
@@FreshFalconapex legends
Sheldon licences are goated and whoever had that idea gets a raise and a cookie
I was so confused when people (and even some squad mates) gassed up splatoon 3 so much back at launch, when it didn't seem to have much distinct from splatoon 2. I wonder what they're thinking now.
I'm also confused what people saw and expected back then.
While I'm upset that team Future lost, I do have a theory about team Past winning.
The Splatoon team seems to care deeply about the world building, sometimes at the cost of gameplay or what other people want.
Like how in a lobby there's holograms of people instead of actual people, even though we know the system could run it.
I think when we go to the past, rules and regulations for turf war won't have been established yet, including kits. Kind of like the "wild west" of turf war. I think they may allow us to make our own kits, with the other balance parameters in play.
I'm not too versed in kits, but let's say you Wanted a roller with burst bomb and kraken special. Each weapon would have a "points to special" value, which also coincides with the specials own "points to special" stat. So you had a good weapon, it'd take forever to charge a good special if you paired them together. Same would apply to Sub ink consumption and cooldowns.
I don't mind having premade kits, but a problem with them is that they're pressured to come up with new ones and even when they do, there are plenty that just won't be fun for a lot of people.
I played far more Splatoon 2 simply because it had kits I liked better.
I used to be against custom kits, but if there's a good trade-off system that takes both weapon utility and special utility into consideration, it's rife with possibilities.
I'd also like to see abilities tuned up too, I feel like a lot of them are far too situational and simply aren't worth equipping. Especially abilities that benefit from teammates dying. Those don't have any place in a semi-competitive shooter.
My hope for Splat 4 is to never see the Squid Sisters in the main story. Or ever again. As a Deep Cut fan not only do I feel underserved by Nintendo, I feel spurned by the rest of the fandom.
0 points for the Splatfest? It would be funny if it weren’t so sad. And it’s weird that all the story and development for Off The Hook are paywalled, right? And if you’re gonna do that in Splat 2, least you could do is give Deep Cut a role in the DLC of their own game!
I think you only spurn yourself more by just declaring the Squid Sisters stop existing, whom a large majority of people love (including myself!) like you're not making it easy on yourself man.
I also like Deep Cut (Frye is such a goober I love her), but I still don't feel the absolute shafting other fans of them seem to think they've gotten. Maybe underutilized, but not just thrown aside. I may be wrong but I think they have more dialogue written for their news reports than any other group.
@@squiddu I was probably too hyperbolic in my emotional state. Not never again, but not in the main campaign again. All idols deserve their spot in the sun. Including Off The Hook being allowed to be characters in a main story outside of DLC.
no squid sisters are goated and deep cut is just trash idk how anyone likes them
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Buff the nova shot
The update cycle really makes me wonder if this was meant to be a sacrificial title in the series, like a way to temper expectations for the next game while making the wait for the next title more bearable. Makes sense if they’re trying hard to jump ship and make 4 far better than 3 ever could be.
oh hey its the only Splatoon that i beat the Story Mode in
27:42 I learned to fight stamper by using the weapons myself and seeing what people did to counter me. I haven’t really had any problems with it since
That is actually genius and I will be doing that now
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I wish I wasn’t alive
27:40
Omg we graduated the same year BOOMER BESTIES
It’s yooouuu 🫵 hiiiiiiiiiii😊
You don't need to shake the controller for fizzy. Just jiggle the right stick and it will charge just as fast.
Man I miss the shifty stations - they were a chance for wacky stage ideas. I remember so many from Splatoon 2 fondly.
3:34 I literally learned about it last night lol
I'm already not playing Splatoon 3 that much after the Grand festival. Splatoon 2 had me playing a lot more past its content cycle. It's really sad cus Splatoon 3 is the better game but how it was handled really rubbed me the wrong way. Also FUCK SPLATANA STAMPER!!! 🗣️ 📢📢📢
27:06 FOR REAL DUDE THE MATCHMAKING IS SO DOG, why is it every other game I'm going up against people with GOLD X BADGES?! I am a 1900-2000 XP player AT BEST, HELLO?!
Fr that shit is so stupid how you're ALWAYS either shitting on them or they shit on you.
Almost never an equal fight.
BUFF THE NOVA SHOT
BUFF THE NOVA SHOT
Buff the Novashot
Buff novashot
"ain't nobody listening to Side Order music outside of the game"
Oct0pticon tho
Buff the Nova, Tri String, Swig, Pain, H3, L3, Curling Bomb, Sprinkler, Toxic Mist, Intensify Action, Thermal Ink, Gambit, Ability Doubler (make it Tripler), and the maps (we need more paths c'mon)
I'll be honest. I burned myself out on splatoon. I got so sick of grinding for Battle pass slop, sick of DCs and being punished for it, sick of hownlong everything took to obtain
I just put the game down, never looked back
nice, you didn't miss out much. even grandfest was pretty much like every other splatfest besides the concerts, which you can find on youtube.
Everything Splatoon 3 did could EASILY have just been DLC for Splatoon 2. Squid Surge is so pointless outside of singleplayer since the multiplayer maps have ZERO verticality or every wall is uninkable to force you the long way around through a chokepoint. Honestly it would not shock me in the least if this game started off as Splatoon 2 DLC but ballooned into a separate game because money. Splatoon 3 is a fitting title because that's its overall ranking of the 3 games. 3rd place. For Splatoon 4 they NEED to abandon the seasonal catalog FOMO aspect and do what they did for Wellstring and Splatana, give us both kits right away (which was the biggest omen of third kits not happening), then add 3rd and even 4th kits as the game goes on.
SPLATOON 3 MUSIC "SLANDER" (Don't worry I know it was specifically if you were "Losing) WILL NOT BE TOLERATED... Anyways awesome video
I still love S3 the most out of all 3, but I recognize that it needed more time in the oven. The movement is super refined, but the maps suck. The gunplay is great, but too many are undertuned or had bad kits and never got their time in the sun. Tbh i never had a problem with the catalog, but casual players seemed to hate it! And I think that’s emblematic of the issue here, the devs saw people with maxed out money at the end of S2 and decided to make everything a competitive grind. Scale rewards, badges, even shell-out rewards take forever to get, and nearly every event is a competition between players (setting a goal like with the final big run was perfect). For me with over 1000 hours I don’t mind every map throwing me into a fight, but other options are basically impossible on maps without flanks.
They should’ve waited to start development on the new system, where we could’ve had bigger maps and supported the game for longer. I don’t understand why so many people are clamoring to have S4 so soon. If that’s really being worked on now, it’ll end up rushed just like every other game in the series.
you are so right about side order just feeling like an s2 epilogue. i've talked to other people about this and they haven't seemed to agree, but i still feel like splatoon 3 is just splatoon 2 2. which is also ironic because people said splatoon 2 was splatoon 1.5???? idk. i wish side order had less reusage of splatoon 2 musical motifs and themes. i wish it had a more unique theme. it's just "order is bad." that's it. AND ALSO 50% OF THE PEOPLE IN SPLATOON 2 VOTED FOR ORDER, SO WHAT A SLAP IN THE FACE NINTENDO. THANKS
I think you got the wrong idea. The idea is ACTUALLY "order CAN be good, but you can't force everyone to do exactly what you want otherwise the world just becomes boring and bleak", not "order bad and smelly f*ck you team order"
@@niicespiice Media literacy is dead.
I loved the hell out of Splatoon 1 and 2, but when I got 3, I was just so underwhelmed and frustrated with the boring map design, and piss poor match making. After losing way more matches than I was winning (as a B+ player usually) I just, never picked up the game again. There was a period where I wanted to get all of the cool stuff from the catalogues, but once I found out just how much time you need to sink into this game, I just never bothered.
I’ve had so much fun these past 2 years. Grand fest was literally so much fun and the music was amazing! Though I love deep cut they’re my favorite and seeing them get side lined so much in their own game really made me feel bad for them. (yes I know they’re fictional.) in my opinion deep cut should’ve had their own final fest then the team could be based off of Marie Pearl and the winner of the deep cut FF for grand fest. They wouldn’t even need to go as hard as they did for chaos Vs order. Then the fact that for the final video of the splatfest they didn’t even make the art deep cut where as sploon 1 got squid sisters and 2 got pearl and Marina.
53:22 holy crap you really are old who the hell still does the whole "meeehhh sonics stupid friends wheee" argument in 2024
Sonics friends are what make Sonic so great. The same goes for the idols for splatoon stories. Ya don't gotta force include everyone, but Sonic doesn't do that anyways, so this is an odd example
Buff the Nova Shot Nintendo you can do ittt
"Was Splatoon 3 saved?" It's ended so probably no. No more major updates and we're still missing half of the maps from the last 2 games along with weapon kits that should have been here by now. A lot of the "Fresh New updates" Where just releasing old content that should have been there from the start and when they did finally start adding In new content they ended the game. Tragic really. Good game but lacks way too much content for absolutely no reason.
good job on the vid, i can tell on how a lot of effort was spent for this one! i don't agree with a lot of your points, but i think you succeeded on making a video that promotes retrospective action
however, i think you spent a lot of time focusing on the "missed potentials" of the game rather than what the game actually does provide
one example would be the Side Order segment: you spent a lot of time talking about what the DLC "could" be, but not about what the DLC actually is (which is providing a new twist in the Splatoon formula, etc etc), so i felt like it was lacking
overall though, your video is great! you should be proud of what you've done, regardless of my personal feelings with it
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Tbh I don’t think Nintendo is too worried about getting new players bc splatoon is so big (in Japan) like they were already planning splat 2 before the annocment for final fest in splat1, tbh with how rushed splat3 feels I wouldn’t be surprised if they’ve started development on splat 4
Buff the nova shot! I think splatoon 3 is okay overall as a successor to 2, but as a comp player, the map design never really being fixed is disappointing. Too many maps funnel you through the middle of the map or through a chokepoint to get to the enemy's side. It leads to most maps feeling pretty samey and makes any weapon without a bomb or strong special like zooka or crab feel terrible to play, since you'll have to brute force with quick respawn or wait for a mistake from the other side to get anything done. That all wouldn't be too bad if splatoon had a built-in comm system like every other shooter lol. Fingers crossed map design give more ways to approach in 4
I 5-starred the vanilla undercover (surprisingly fun, I'm shocked too) and I'd sell my soul for viable buffs. Brellas are shotguns, let the whole class be lethal at point blank, like the tenta brella. And buff the nova shot!
Ive almost completely missed everything after the first couple seasons or so (the only catalog i completed was the first chill season) I agree as there is a ton of missed potential. About the part where you talked about how weapons should "feel good" Ive been thinking about how awesome it would be to add a ton of OP specials/subs to the game or at least to a specific mode and make the game infinitely more chaotic "since splatoon 3 was supposed to be "chaos" themed since pearl won the last final fest) I for sure wouldve played the game a LOT more if that was the case, I know team past won the grand fest (i was on team past myself lol) but just maybe splatoon 4 could incorporate something like that into the core gameplay?
14:44 Zack what da hell homie😭😭🙏🙏
I didn't expect him to say something like that dude he was my childhood
@@bitabitesalty5164he didn’t have a filter when he played higher age rated games
@berryronin6882 Yeah, I didn't watch those videos it's still out of left field
The Nova shot does need to be buffed FR. I used to play A LOT of Splatoon, but as soon as Monster Hunter came out on Switch I ended up falling wayyyyy off.
Splatoon 3: the most underwhelming Splatoon game.
Updates in the past splatoon games kept me excited and engaged while Splatoon 3's updates made me feel underwhelmed and not that excited, i only got back into the game by dropping off the game for awhile and coming back for the last season... Sigh
Honestly the stages are like the worst part of the game for me, i wish there was more variety ....
2 likes and a whole missing sentence woohoo
Fr that shit's midville. And I'm sad that this game didn't hook me like the first two.
Buff the NovaShot. Unironically one of my favorite weapons that embodies the supposed Chaotic theme of this game.
Love being effectively a glorified recon bot
36:06 This tier list screams casual salmon run player
maybe cause hes old
Because the main game sucks.
I feel like the Deep cut problem wasn't a problem with the news being skipable but the fact that both the story modes didn't focus on them at all and instead focused on characters that were already developed which gave them no time for players to see any sort of relationship between the three unless it was in the most inconvenient part of the game (the news I can skip since I'm gonna see the stages in rotation before the match anyways). I dont think side order needs to chage to incorporate them really but if I was to redo the story mode i would have them be helping the squid beak splatoon. Give them an opportunity to Interact with established characters and the player. Maybe for certain segments of the levels and bosses let you use there powers and give context to their origins since its where there powers come from and for the purpose of placing them more naturally into the story and world we already know.
Also, captain, you can just wiggle the stick back and forth to charge a Fizzy Bomb. You don’t have to shake the controller
i agree with most of your points but 8 person salmon run would have the switch blow up in your hand it can barely handle four people with the amount of salmon you fight 😭
Splatoon 3 was my first splatoon game so I never got the full context for just how much people might me "disappointed' in Splat 3. Though I guess for my own two cents... I feel like I kinda fell off of it purely because competitive shooters aren't my big thing, but I also LOVE Splatoon's world and the core gameplay itself.
Though, the lack of weapons and kits disappoints me a LOt.
Splatoon 3 is still solidly a splatoon game, most newcomers love this game, so don't worry too much! Most reviews will compare and contrast sequels to their predecessors, but as a first game I'd imagine it's great besides how fast you get thrown into the blender in multiplayer
Hope you have a good day
@@aquamarinerose5405 Good game, mid game if you're a Splatoon veteran.
16:09 I can't play Kirby's Rogue Land. I'll die at Lola Bunny every time.
I NEED Agent 4 to show up in Splatoon 4
She deserves it after being neglected by Nintendo for so long
Buff the nova shot men
captain astro + splatoon + 1 hour = pure joy (even if they will never buff the Nova Shot)