The Symphony of Side Order - Why are the Jelletons named THAT in Splatoon?

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  • @fiveeyesstreams
    @fiveeyesstreams  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +195

    Thank you everyone for taking the time to watch and for all the comments and support! I absolutely LOVE seeing everyone's ideas and contributions so much! Splatoon fans are on another level for real. KEEP THOSE THEORIES COMING and THANKS FOR BEING AWESOME!
    Also the best way to support me is to follow my twitch! I play Splatoon with viewers every Wednesday! twitch.tv/fiveeyesstreams

    • @Splatoonspyro
      @Splatoonspyro 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I know nothing about music, but this was very interesting. Now I know why the names were, um, a bit hard to pronounce.

    • @pedromartins6810
      @pedromartins6810 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I want to tell you something about this game's details. Have you ever played salmon run, especifically the mothership event?

    • @birdybirdy3251
      @birdybirdy3251 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wow,thats interresting,in german they are called harmonie wich they mirror,unlike a harmonie they are rapid,chaotic and uncanny,wich is a cool idea

    • @kratangg-arang
      @kratangg-arang 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Super excited to see what you do next after such an amazing first video essay!

  • @ZizZap4
    @ZizZap4 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1457

    "Spectrum Obligato" sounds like an orderly twist on "Anarchy Rainbow" in terms of titling.

    • @hy2rochlor1c
      @hy2rochlor1c 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +91

      oh my god

    • @ImGonnaBeAStarr11
      @ImGonnaBeAStarr11 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +64

      @@hy2rochlor1cthis changes everything

    • @82licious
      @82licious 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +122

      Anarchy Rainbow when Spectrum Obligato walks in

    • @SquidPartyDude
      @SquidPartyDude 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      @@82licious*OH MY F[squidbag noises]KING GOD, ITS THE SPECTRUM OBLIGATO*

    • @doomlord0773
      @doomlord0773 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      Considering the feel of when that song is playing, spectrum obligato is probably roughly translating to "perfect randomness" or "needed chaos"

  • @bluekirby_64
    @bluekirby_64 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +423

    Something to add about the sprinkler enemy: "capriccioso" translates to "whiny", so the little guy could also be seen as crying all over the place like a kid, the exact opposite to its musical interpretation.
    -As well as perfectly representing how you'll feel after spending 2 hours on the same Splat Zone floor thanks to them-

    • @electro_music_box
      @electro_music_box 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      Cruel_Sisyphean_Eight_Shaped_Floor

    • @halcyon_exb
      @halcyon_exb 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@electro_music_boxnever speak again 😞

    • @electro_music_box
      @electro_music_box 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@halcyon_exb ??? All because i said the name of a splat zone floor?

    • @halcyon_exb
      @halcyon_exb 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@electro_music_box I’m just playing my b.

    • @cousinparty7266
      @cousinparty7266 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@electro_music_boxsorry, sir, we need to make room for Coverage Between Crosshairs

  • @DJ_Pyrodox
    @DJ_Pyrodox 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +330

    "He has a degree, he's tall, and he is deadly skilled with a rifle"
    Nobilmentes: Profreshionals have standards

  • @GoGoForIt
    @GoGoForIt 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +581

    An additional thought I'd like to add to the title "Spectrum Obligato" is to emphasize the word "Spectrum." You're trying to prevent the "grayscaling" of the world, and Splatoon is all about splashing vibrant colors everywhere. This title emphasizes that the full spectrum of colors and all the chaos that comes with it are *essential* and cannot be modified or taken away from the world.

    • @Aless08
      @Aless08 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      finally someone that doesn't talk about autism spectrum

    • @INANNAISHERE
      @INANNAISHERE 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

      Would that mean that "spectrum obligato" means "variety is mandatory" or "chaos is indispensable"? An answer to order's worldview?

    • @GoGoForIt
      @GoGoForIt 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      yup, that's the point I'm getting at

  • @narwhao
    @narwhao 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +221

    Fun note about the 3 bosses- they seem to represent deep-rooted Octarian fears, with the panopticon boss's prison motifs making you feel trapped underground (Octo Valley/Canyon), the urchin ball's boss having its body forcibly altered (sanitization/fuzzy goo) and pushed to attack, and the inkling boss being the obvious representation of the enemy army that won the Great Turf War. There could be some fun extra meanings in their names if the symbolism is intentional.
    I also think the music theming likely ties into Octarian society as a whole, since the music that plays in Octo Valley/Canyon levels can be used to control their soldiers. Overlorder being made from Octarian feelings means music would naturally be synonymous with a controlled, mindless army. And with the lore we got about inkfish having music etched into their DNA, and how their souls can be removed and their bodies reprogrammed, it's possible the musical style of each Jelleton is actually how Order programmed each one's AI behaviors.

    • @kratangg-arang
      @kratangg-arang 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      My first thought was that they also paralleled other bosses/concepts from the first game.
      Big sphere that rolls towards you, group of enemy soldiers, and rotating tower you need to take out layer by layer.
      Octostamp gets a lot of love, so maybe this is giving them some recognition?

    • @everest5718
      @everest5718 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      The urchin ball could also represent the Octo weapons in this reading of the bosses. Even Marina comments on it having “perfect defence and unrelenting offence” which would fit the other Octo weapons having only one weak spot and impenetrable everywhere else, as well as powerful attacks meant for warfare. They could be seen as both amazing and terrifying to octarians, since they’re powerful but they’re also scary because they were people made into weapons. I may just be reading into it too much tho lol

    • @Dergburger
      @Dergburger หลายเดือนก่อน

      I always thought it was supposed to loosely reflect the 8-ball missions. Or more generally, simply just what they were doing when trapped in the octo underground. But I def see these other meanings being presented as a bit more direct and correct sounding

  • @syro33
    @syro33 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +436

    one note: the "dj octavio" leitmotif is a little more broad than that. It shows up all over the series, but especially anywhere that involves octolings in general. It even made its way into the songs for Pinging Marciale and Asynchronous Rondo if you listen closely!

    • @TotherKoala
      @TotherKoala 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +64

      Typically it is referred to as the Onward motif as it appears by itself on the level clear screens alongside the phrase 'Onward!!'

    • @syro33
      @syro33 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      @@TotherKoala yeah! I like to think of it as an octarian theme, or even just one for the whole series, since it appears in so many songs across all three games.

    • @kraken3574
      @kraken3574 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Honestly I see it as the anti- calamari inkantation bc while that breaks octarians free of the life underground and makes them desire more, onward! is like a song to march to, a beat to stay in and to keep the orderly life in the army, so that particular leitmotif is always used by octoling artists to symbolise order and nothing ever changing (think first pass of ebb and flow for example, then marina meeting pearl changed her usual style of music by working as an idol duo)

    • @MrEel-dc4kh
      @MrEel-dc4kh 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      The Onwards motif doesn't appear in Parallel Canon's theme because they're not based off of a Great Octoweapon! Marciale --> Octowhirl, Rondo --> Octonozzle (oven?)

    • @syro33
      @syro33 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@MrEel-dc4kh hmm.. maybe! I'm not exactly sure why it doesnt appear there. I guess it does have more to do with the Inklings than the octolings, seeing as its based on Agent 4. Maybe that's why it doesn't show up as well?
      They also dont get to sing/off tunedly scream an off the hook song, sadly :(

  • @ninjacrafter2215
    @ninjacrafter2215 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +237

    I think a similar interpretation of “Parallel Canon” in the “canonical” sense is that both Agent 4 and Agent 8’s debut story modes happened parallel to one another both in the canon timeline as well as both occurring within the same game.

  • @IridesscentGal254
    @IridesscentGal254 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +179

    I want to mention that the little text above Parallel Canon's name is "Intensifying Harmony", which i believe is a very obvious nod to the fact that the canons come in waves! They intensify each wave due to each wave having more canon's than the last wave and the harmony part could tie into how they're working in unison to try and beat you! y'know like how a team would need harmony in order to win (which is something i hardly ever find in solo queue LOL)

    • @fiveeyesstreams
      @fiveeyesstreams  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

      Yes! I debated including a note about that, but I couldn't think of anything for the other boss titles, so I ended up leaving it out. I think you explained it here perfectly!

  • @grugspro
    @grugspro 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +57

    When you get the splashtag title for defeating 250 portals, the name its given is "Jelletonal Portal" which I think is a perfect full name for it, as it is both Jelleton-al (pertaining to Jelletons as it spawns them) and is Jelle-tonal (pertaining to tones, as tones are the basis of music); as soon as I got it I thought there could be no better name for it

    • @fiveeyesstreams
      @fiveeyesstreams  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      AH! Excellent detective work. I'd still want to use a different word for portal, but "Jelletonal" is a great first word for its name, I totally missed that it was already in the game!

  • @comet242
    @comet242 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +141

    In regards to asynchronous rondo, rondo may also refer to how there are 3 lit up layers that are required to destory to defeat the boss, separated by a few unlit layers that are optional. The lit up layers could reference the main melodic idea, while the unlit layers could represent the other melodies.

    • @joanaguadomedina3060
      @joanaguadomedina3060 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      That's a good observation too!

    • @fiveeyesstreams
      @fiveeyesstreams  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

      YES! I did consider talking about that, but the pattern doesn't EXACTLY fit into rondo form so I ended up leaving it out. Glad so many people are picking up on it anyways!

  • @dani8361
    @dani8361 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +57

    the pinging marciale's theme song is breakcore which is REALLY funny because that's exactly how you beat the boss

  • @ZizZap4
    @ZizZap4 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +212

    Regarding the controllers on Marina's visor: It's specifically a Virtual Boy controller, aka Nintendo's early form of not-a-headset VR headset.

    • @fiveeyesstreams
      @fiveeyesstreams  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +49

      Nice catch!! Now I've learned something!

    • @kratangg-arang
      @kratangg-arang 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      It’s such a fun detail

  • @atsukana1704
    @atsukana1704 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +202

    That ending did pull it all together. The three pillars of splatoon really are gameplay, theme, and music. And this expansion is like a love letter to the chaotic nature that has somehow organized itself into the music of splatoon.
    Throughout its entire history the entirety of the splatoon world has been influenced by music. And this expansion is no different

    • @fiveeyesstreams
      @fiveeyesstreams  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Thank you for such a thoughtful comment! Couldn't have said it better myself!

    • @pishagerudo
      @pishagerudo 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      right this is why i cant understand people who like splatoon and not its soundtrack... they are very rare but ive seen them around and its just like, can you even say you really like the game when you dont like one of the most important parts of it >_

    • @Sqwivig
      @Sqwivig 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@pishagerudoFOR REAL! How can you say you like Splatoon but not like the music!? The music of Splatoon is intrinsic to the gameplay and world building and lore. It's a core part of Splatoon's identity. I can understand not liking a handful of songs, but turning off the music entirely feels like blasphemy. I really wonder about those people. Why even play the game at all if you are going to mute the game or play your own music? Do they even LIKE Splatoon? Do they even appreciate it?

  • @mahimeghan
    @mahimeghan 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +214

    2:40 okay throwing a suction bomb during “and it stuck” is genius actually

    • @JrAnimates
      @JrAnimates 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Omg you’re right, that’s actually a good joke!

    • @joanaguadomedina3060
      @joanaguadomedina3060 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Damn! Did not notice that XD

    • @jaspbcat7903
      @jaspbcat7903 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I saw that and knew there would be someone saying this.

  • @beigejungle5712
    @beigejungle5712 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

    Amazing video, but wanted to add some extra lore for Marina and the "Onward!" Moteif
    "Onward" has appeared in every Splatoon game in one way or another, and is seen as a form of march for the Octatians. So assing that to side order not only continues having that moteif in every story game mode so far, but it also makes a lot of sense knowing Marina was one of the highest in terms of her ranking. Its so prevalent its even in her demo for Ebb and Flow, and againe here, showing that no matter what may come, despite her turning back on her past, she will move Onward

  • @DisableYT
    @DisableYT 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +59

    I think it's worth noting that the first words in the boss names seem to relate to computer science, Marina's other passion.
    In particular, I think the "Parallel" in Parallel Canon is in reference to parallel programming, a process in which a large problem is split up into smaller tasks that can be executed simultaneously. Just like how this boss is split up into smaller, individual enemies, a bunch of which will occupy the battlefield at the same time.

    • @Sqwivig
      @Sqwivig 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Woaaahh!! You kinda just blew my mind!

    • @joeydestructo
      @joeydestructo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Wow, I never noticed that! You're absolutely right. Asynchronous Rondo then would be referencing asynchronous execution, referring to how the layers rotate independently of each other, and Pinging Marciale would reference the ping command, alluding to how you push it away but it ends up bouncing back to you. That's awesome!

    • @TheRamsWay
      @TheRamsWay 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And with the computer science aspect, there's a fun little oxymoron with Parallel Canon's name as well: canon in music is a melody repeated with delay, so you could say it's in sequence, in a serial manner... and serial and parallel communication are kinda opposites of eachother!

    • @ethersplatzone
      @ethersplatzone 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yoo what a big brain answer! Yeah all three of them have weirdly specific computer related words!

  • @verycoolmanSynthos
    @verycoolmanSynthos 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +101

    21:17 fun fact! If you look at the sections, the curves look like arrows, which actually points to what direction it’s gonna spin to! So it’s kinda like “hey heads up! This sections gonna spin that way”

    • @Mad-Goose
      @Mad-Goose 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Another fun fact: Splatoon likes to make references to seafood in its character designs. Those same curves can be found in the conveyor belts you find at sushi restaurants which, I think, is a pretty cool detail.

    • @verycoolmanSynthos
      @verycoolmanSynthos 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Mad-Goose *proceeds to realize that*

    • @verycoolmanSynthos
      @verycoolmanSynthos 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@Mad-GooseI also noticed, the more layers destroyed, the more inked up the layers at the top get, so you can’t see what the “curves” are pointing to.

  • @milesorbet
    @milesorbet 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +55

    I think Pinging Marciale could also tie into the fact that it sends enemies into the battlefield that hunt the player down, like a how military marshal would send out soldiers. The pegs it runs into also causes it to let out an attack similar to the wave breaker, which I would consider a ping based on how it functions it turf and ranked. Whether or not the Jelletons literally ping Eight using echolocation I'm not sure about.
    Regardless, I've been wondering about a lot of these names but never got around to looking them up. Hopefully this reaches a few others who were wondering too.

    • @fiveeyesstreams
      @fiveeyesstreams  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      OOOH I like that idea! Gives a little flavor to the attacks it does.

    • @MrEel-dc4kh
      @MrEel-dc4kh 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Rondo and Canon also send out enemies, but not as much. Canon only sends out Languendos.

  • @verycoolmanSynthos
    @verycoolmanSynthos 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +49

    7:28 speaking of ascending, the homing arpeggio actually ascends in pitch as it gets closer to you

  • @joanaguadomedina3060
    @joanaguadomedina3060 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    The rondo is also danced in circle, so the Asynchronous Rondo going in circles makes so much sense.

  • @confused9026
    @confused9026 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +61

    I give so many props to people who understand music theory and can identify these things. I study medicine, so very stem, in highschool my friend tried to teach me music theory and i felt like my brain was going to explode. It’s so cool to learn about things that I cannot really identify by myself.

  • @Ellivers
    @Ellivers 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    One very interesting detail about Asynchronous Rondo is the name of its battle music, 0ct0ptic0n. The title references a panopticon, which is a prison built around the idea that the prisoners never know whether they are being watched or not, building a constant paranoia ("panoptes" meaning "all-seeing" in Greek). This is the main idea behind the boss, with its searchlight that you constantly have to look out for. You can also see prison cells in the background of the stage, with the lighthouse in the center watching over all of them with a huge rotating searchlight.

  • @TheEggoEffect
    @TheEggoEffect 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I’m really disappointed that the parallel canon boss music, echo onslaught, isn’t an actual canon. It was a perfect opportunity to have several different voices playing variations of the same melody, with individual voices coming in and out as new units spawn or are defeated. Huge missed potential.

  • @icyflame716
    @icyflame716 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Fun thing about asynchronous rondo. Even the tower itself is a rondo. The 9 layers have 3 lit up sections which you need to take down to defeat it. From bottom up it goes dark-dark-light, dark-dark-light, dark-dark-light. Which in itself could be considered a rondo.

  • @bwminich
    @bwminich 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    Over the years of playing these games, I've come to view the DJ Octavio motif as generally an Octoling Motif. After all, the band that performs it in the Splatoon single player does it, and Marina uses it for her Ebb and Flow demo, which was either just before or just after she left Octoling society. So I tend to think it represents identification with the way of life under Octavio - striving to further another's goals rather than your own - a kind of way to show that orders are being followed. We don't see Marina use it in any Off the Hook songs . . . but the fact that when she's controlled by Order and feeling her place is in a society fulfilling a role is when she uses it again in music is telling to me. I remember being like "WAIT THERE'S THE MOTIF" when first fighting Marina Agitando.
    Also, the recent Splatfest featured Big Man making a musical notation joke and I just was like "wait, what? "Every Good Battler Does Fine?" That's . . . That's the Treble Clef line note memory system every piano student learns, at least once you replace battler with "boy".

  • @redtomato4903
    @redtomato4903 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Spoilers for the bosses ahead ‼️
    Another fun fact about their naming is that their musical term appears in each boss’s own song! I’m actually not too sure about Asynchronous Rondos one, but parallel canon has a repeating motif of three notes all throughout its song. This one might be kind of a stretch but Pinging Marciale has a heavy focus on drums and breakcore, even featuring the amen break; and marches are similarly rhythmic and very beat focused. If anyone can find if a rondo is used in its bosses song, please let me know, I only just learned that from this video lol

    • @fiveeyesstreams
      @fiveeyesstreams  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      OMG I can't believe I didn't even think to listen to the bosses themes! I will definitely be taking a look now.
      Rondo is a little tricky because it has to follow a specific form - ABACABA or ABACA - with each letter representing a section of the music with a different recurring musical theme or "episode." After a quick listen, I think there is some potential for it to fit. It definitely deserves some additional analysis.
      I actually wanted to talk about the boss's lighted sections forming a pattern of unlit, unlit, lit, but that didn't quite fit the strictness of rondo, but maybe it was just rondo-inspired.

  • @benthic_bones
    @benthic_bones 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    this is the type of video essay that you eat bagel bites to

  • @creativeusernamehere6854
    @creativeusernamehere6854 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Idk if this has already been commented, but it’s still a cool fact
    The inklings that appear in the Parallel Canon were confirmed in an interview to be copies of Agent 4. It’s unknown where they are now, but it’s still super interesting and opens up more for the names.
    The Parallel part refers to how it’s literally a parallel of 4, though I’m not sure how or if the Canon part changes at all in this context.

  • @shyacross9746
    @shyacross9746 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    beautiful battering lento clip at 5:07

  • @TeamAguaChris
    @TeamAguaChris 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Parallel Canon also seems to be a reference to the Octoling battles you have to fight in the Octo Valley missions. It’s a literal role reversal, with Eight being the one having to fight an Army of Inklings instead of the other way around.

  • @oofinator8005
    @oofinator8005 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    As a band student I clocked onto the music names as soon as I saw one of the enemies being named andante

  • @ayskaripepperooni2770
    @ayskaripepperooni2770 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Parallel canon is also referred to as intensifying harmony. If you think of the different inklings as notes, the harmony does intensify between phases.

  • @jnate6095
    @jnate6095 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Fun fact
    The asynchronous rondo and the name of its theme are based off the prison system, the panopticon.
    The prison center is where the guard will stay, with no light to look at the cells which are surrounding it, to give the prisoners a feeling that they’re being watched at all times even when they aren’t

  • @randomsquiddy
    @randomsquiddy 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    11:47 “They drizzle ink aimlessly and impulsively all over your splatzone”

  • @HeartAce59
    @HeartAce59 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    One thing of note (hah) that you didn't talk about: the Pearl Drone. It may have a double meaning too!
    As I was doing some research about musical terms myself, I came across the term "drone".
    From Wikipedia : In music, a drone is a harmonic of monophonic effect or accompainment where a note or chord is continuously sounded throughout most or all of a piece.
    And the Pearl Drone does exactly that, she accompanies and supports the player, and never leaves our side ❤

  • @cryolitegem
    @cryolitegem 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Could you imagine playing side order shortly after playing Splatoon 2, not knowing anything about it, and recognizing your Agent 4 in Parallel Canon? That would be so haunting.

  • @pishagerudo
    @pishagerudo 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    i noticed the name of the arpeggio but never actually noticed the sound it was making WAS an arpeggio omg all the observations in this video are so cool and it's awesomely edited too... LOVE IT

  • @glitchingeclipse9850
    @glitchingeclipse9850 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Another thing to mention about the asynchronous rhondo just as a side note is that it’s also based off of a panopticon, a greek style prison system where the prison cells surround a large watch tower in the middle, which can be seen in the boss with the background being full of prison cells surrounding the middle of the stage.

  • @everest5718
    @everest5718 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Parallel Canon also has a third meaning, where it can be read more literally as “similar weapon”. The inkling enemies of this boss will have similar buffs depending on your palette - for example if you have increased range, the parallel canon inklings will have increased range on their weapons too. Which is really really cool!!
    And more recently, a developer interview confirmed that the main inkling is a copy of agent 4 and the others are copies of that copy, so this boss is “parallel” to agent 4.
    Splatoon has so much thought out into its lore it’s insane.

  • @sample_text9276
    @sample_text9276 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    13:14
    Something to note about this; Battering Lentos cannot create their own ink trails, while Marching Andantes usually struggle in your ink for a moment before creating their own ink trail. Swarming Languendos, however, easily ink the ground directly below them, even when they're in your ink, allowing other enemies (Especially Lentos-- They even seem to follow the same path finding) to easily travel when behind at least one Languendo.

  • @kaisiacor6553
    @kaisiacor6553 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Interesting video! I have one more idea for the reason behind the name of Pinging Marciale. In the unique boss music for marciale (the song title: c0ld st0rage), there is a very prominent use of the "Onward" motif from the hero modes and octo expansion in splatoon 1, 2, and 3. The Onward motif is used in Octarian military music. It's said that this motif is used to motivate members of the Octarian army to continue onward, and in other words, to continue marching forward. Maybe the Onward marching motif in the music is another reason for why the boss is called Pinging Marciale!

  • @amuis5409
    @amuis5409 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The Japanese name for Parallel Canon is "イカイノカノン" [ikai no canon], which means "canon of another world" if it is transcribed with Kanji as "異界のカノン", analogous to its Chinese translation "異界卡農 (Yijie Kanong)". This "another world" "イカイ" = "異界" contains "イカ", which means "squid" or "cuttlefish" in Japanese.
    Another layer of wordplay before the translation, which was not reflected in the English version nor any other non-Japanese versions.

  • @InfiniteThePhantomJackal
    @InfiniteThePhantomJackal 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    We know via interviews IIRC that Marina created Asynchronous Rondo as a hospitality robot of some kind that Order then corrupted and turned into a boss. So I propose a slightly alternate theory.
    It's torn and conflicted and confused not between Marina's desires and the other Octoling engineers' desires for the Memverse, but between its original function and its new and aggressive directive as a boss.

  • @THE_FACEツ
    @THE_FACEツ 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Another name suggestion for the portal: coda
    A coda is a sign that makes the musician skip to the second coda while playing on the second loop of a song. It is quite litteraly a musical portal!

  • @ultra824
    @ultra824 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I did recognize the musical theming of the jelleton's names when I was playing through the expansion and i remember wondering what they all meant, so I really appreciated this video
    Of course, all of this is secondary to the _main_ message of Side Order, which is that Pearl and Marina are gay for each other and are incapable of resisting the urge to blatantly flirt in any circumstance

  • @NeshGallyway
    @NeshGallyway 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    22:52 “this boss is B A L L”

  • @Splatoonspyro
    @Splatoonspyro 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Splatoon is the king of world building and cleverly hidden puns. Other game communitys look at us as strange, but were to busy loving the design philosophy and the lived in world to care.

  • @fionali4502
    @fionali4502 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    And here I thought I was the only one who wanted to take the subject of music within the Splatoon series (but in terms of the future of the Splatoon series in regards to music festivals) much further. I already covered the radio and the radio industry within the Pokemon world in my Pokemon Crystal retrospective article for issue 19 of the Pixel Addict magazine, which is now available in digital and in print.
    I’m not gonna lie, the recent performances of “We’re So Back” and “Colour Pulse 2024” from Off The Hook makes me miss the vibes I tend to get from experiencing real-life music festivals. I’ve already attended Birmingham Pride twice, Brighton + Hove Pride - Fabulosa Pride In The Park and Manchester Pride as a spectator and as press.
    I’m not just a journalist, I’m also a radio presenter.

  • @wtrfrt
    @wtrfrt 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    This is so genius omg. I LOVE how you presented all the details here!! Was mindblown throughout the whole video..
    Something to add to Parallel Canon:
    The story of Agent 4 (Splatoon 2 Hero Mode) and Agent 8 (Octo Expansion) take place at the exact same time. They're parallel stories.!

  • @farbencut
    @farbencut 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    25:10 The Design actually references the Virtual Boy, a failed Nintendo Console. The controller specifically, if it wasn’t split in half, would match the Virtual Boy’s perfectly. Since the Virtual Boy resembles a VR headset to some degree, I don’t think it’s unlikely that it’s just a coincidence

  • @fourkz
    @fourkz 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    25:10 not only is the headset parts of a controller, it's specifically the Virtual Boy controller, which continues the theme of a lot of technology in Splatoon referencing Nintendo's hardware, though there could be some deeper meaning. The Virtual Boy displayed in monochrome, though monochrome red and black rather than the typical grayscale, so it could be showing how it's a virtual world that's plain and colorless. The buttons on both sides are gray, while on the real controller one half has red buttons, possibly being a nod to the grayscaling that Order plans to do. Finally, the Virtual Boy is infamous for giving players headaches when playing for too long, which could be referenced in how the headset is mind controlling Marina, and how Order plans to mess with the minds of the outside world.
    It's also important to note that the visor isn't a Virtual Boy, I think it might be another VR peripheral Nintendo made but I'm not really sure. This is probably because the only color the Virtual Boy was made in was red, which doesn't really fit the color scheme of Side Order.

  • @austindavis4708
    @austindavis4708 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Something I noticed about the onward leitmotif is that is has the exact same rhythm and contour and when band members would say “5678” at the beginning of a song to set tempo. It was just an interesting observation, but idk if it’s true.

  • @considerthetubes2864
    @considerthetubes2864 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Something I’m surprised you didn’t mention is that all of the boss themes actually display their particular musical term!
    You can hear the main theme of asynchronous rondo repeat again and again throughout the song, and parallel canon has a few canons snuck in there. Pinging marciale is debatable, but I think the amen break is marchy enough.

    • @fiveeyesstreams
      @fiveeyesstreams  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I've been taking a closer listen to the boss themes and I don't think that they fit exactly into their namesakes, but I do think the songs may have been heavily inspired by those terms. I hope to address this in a follow-up video eventually.

  • @sagedeen4180
    @sagedeen4180 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    This is such a high quality video, presenting info in a really fun way on a topic that I didn't think much on before. Springing Spiccato probably has my favorite reasoning behind it's name, bouncy fellas.

    • @fiveeyesstreams
      @fiveeyesstreams  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      THANK YOU so much aaaaa I've been working on it since Side Order dropped. Glad you enjoyed! The Springing Spiccato is definitely one of my top favs. It really embodies spiccato well!

  • @MagicalGirlFia
    @MagicalGirlFia 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    28:51 About this- something most people would never know for obvious reasons is that even though you can’t see it’s eyes in game the “main” inkling does have eyes- and in fact, if you have save data for Splatoon 2 it copies the eye color of your Agent 4 as well.

    • @fiveeyesstreams
      @fiveeyesstreams  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How did you manage to verify this? I'd love to see some footage of their hidden eyes!

  • @nyuh
    @nyuh 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    oh wow not even a minute in this is already a cool vid
    ive never seen anyone make vids with animating the player model with lip syncing like that

  • @kratangg-arang
    @kratangg-arang 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Splatoon’s connection to music has always been so distinct. This filled in the gaps and answered pretty much every question I could’ve had! Rad video!

  • @randomghost6266
    @randomghost6266 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    In the Jelleton field guide, Acht said the languendo “ink the ground to ease way for the big guys”. I think it’s really clever that the swarming languendos are paired with itself (stronger together but weak on their own), and commonly the battering lentos, letting them follow at a faster pace behind them!
    Small spoiler for the jelleton field guide for marina’s dialogue:
    Marina says that they also get faster if you leave them alone, but I haven’t really noticed since I always splat them pretty fast. I wonder if there’s also a meaning to that?

    • @fiveeyesstreams
      @fiveeyesstreams  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If you let them stick around, they will pause, act a bit crazed by swinging their heads around, and a visual effect will manifest around them. It definitely speeds them up and I think it may also increase their damage or at least make them act more aggressive. Since multiple jelletons exhibit this behavior, I think it is a gameplay feature to increase difficulty. It's a cool thing to note for sure.

  • @Demospenguin
    @Demospenguin 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Parallel Canon refers to your agent 4 in splatoon 2 it quite literally takes your player data to show the same hairstyle on it

  • @koveltskiis8391
    @koveltskiis8391 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    For the portals I was ruminating on “Coda” or “Dal Segno” as they both relate to the concept of moving backwards or repeating in sheet music, often times to save space and paper! Perhaps the first adjective could be “Assembling” or “Jelletonal”.

    • @fiveeyesstreams
      @fiveeyesstreams  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I especially like "Jelletonal" because it contains "tonal" as in music being tonal vs atonal (based on a key or not) or an instrument having a certain tone!

  • @binarycat1237
    @binarycat1237 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    "the last of your precious lives"
    meanwhile i've been on the no-hacks grind for so long i forgot you can have more than one

  • @OChunks
    @OChunks 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love that the whole musical theme of the enemies fits really well with Side Order's them of, well... order. After all, If you see a band playing music they are perfectly playing the notes in front of them that are telling them how and what to play. Each of the enemy types does exactly what they are supposed to do with no deviation. (Except for battering lentos playing with the 8 ball) I'm really curious to what the DLC would have been like if order won the final-fest, but I'm mainly just excited for what the Splatoon team has in store for us in the future!.

  • @some_guy925
    @some_guy925 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    i did not know just how much the dlc took music into consideration. i thought they just had a fire sound track. imma be listening for all this in my next run. Thanks for this(the editing was amazing btw)

  • @Octoo88
    @Octoo88 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Btw the thing that marina is wearing is a Nintendo virtual boy with the controller stuck to the sides. For anyone who doesn’t know (because the virtual boy was pretty much a failure) it was a really old Nintendo console after the game boy that was basically the first VR console.

  • @borderlineschiz0480
    @borderlineschiz0480 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Another thing with the new “we’re so back” song that off the hook sings sounds like the boss clear music in side order

  • @wiredwe1rdexe985
    @wiredwe1rdexe985 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    TY FOR CAPTIONS!!! immediate approval of your channel!

  • @stormsquid1842
    @stormsquid1842 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I had no idea that they had musical meanings, this was really cool

  • @ventixiaa
    @ventixiaa 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    deserved every single one of those views, i’m in band and i just now noticed how all enemies are music related and not just a few of them😭

  • @eeveemaster243
    @eeveemaster243 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fun fact; the arpeggios are reskins on the missile enemies most prominent in the DJ Octavio boss fights of the first two games, and makes a sound very similar to the sound they would make.

  • @shorty-nb5cp
    @shorty-nb5cp 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I really like how the jelletons names fit the music terms bcuz it fits the jelletons & what they do.
    Also, on 13:45 I played that song before in an orchestra.

  • @Angel..L
    @Angel..L 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This was a great video. I was very confused by the names of the enemies when I started playing side order for the first time. I knew what Asynchronous and Rondo meant but I couldn’t figure out the meaning behind why the names were what they were.
    I actually thought someone forgot to translate the names at first. It seems so simple but whoever came up with the naming convention to relate it to the theme of Order is so smart.

  • @beeIovely
    @beeIovely 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    another thing i didn't see mentioned - during the battle against marina as well as the final boss, if you have lucky bombs activated, they will pointedly explode to the beat of the music. never off-beat. it's such a cool way to weave the music into the stage. just like the pulsing lights in the lobby before you enter the elevator, and the abstract shapes popping and floating through the air outside the building.

    • @fiveeyesstreams
      @fiveeyesstreams  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm going to look further into this! Thank you!

    • @beeIovely
      @beeIovely 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@fiveeyesstreams please do! it's really neat (and of course easier to see it) if you get a big string of them going. excited to see your next video if you end up making one :>

  • @emmet042
    @emmet042 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I personally like to think that "pinging" in Pining Marciale is also a reference to network PING, a method to testing network stability and connectivity by sending information from the user to the network and noting the time it taking to receive that information back. Seeing as Side Order takes place in a digital realm, I think the reference sticks!
    Fun fact: Apparently "ping" in terms of networking is an acronym! (Packet Inter-Network Groper)

  • @BreloomsGarden
    @BreloomsGarden 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is such a cool video essay! Yknow, I was upset at how short side order was. We waited quite a while for it, so it felt underwhelming. I didn't realize how much research and detail was packed into the whole overarching theme. After listening this essay I fully understand why side order is what it is. I'm just sad most casual fans won't understand.

  • @MersuneLiku
    @MersuneLiku 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    also the level clear songs for the tutorial spire and the bosses are nods to other songs too. in the initial spire the level clear song sounds just like marinas solo in color pulse. the song that plays after defeating a boss was actually a foreshadowing of the main melody to the new oth song we're so back that is performed after the half time announcement for splatfest. when i first heard the level complete songs i though both the normal and boss versions would tie into the final battle music similair to octo expansion but only the normal level complete song was in the final battle. the literal second i heard we're so back i recognized the melody and soon realized where i heard it

  • @hyakin7818
    @hyakin7818 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    15:19
    It's the controller of the virtual boy
    She's not only controlled but kept unconscious

  • @lapsterblaster
    @lapsterblaster 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    with the pinging marciale marinas dialogue (during the battle not in the log) also mentions its "perfect attack and defense" which i believe could also call back to it being "military-like" !!

  • @めっちゃお腹が空く人
    @めっちゃお腹が空く人 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    11:42 you’re so real for that

  • @keynanmartinez
    @keynanmartinez 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Marina Ida naming these enemies is pretty smart yet sad but I love it.

  • @cupofapricotjam
    @cupofapricotjam 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    yoko and the gold bazookas art when mentioning splatbands lets gooo, they're my favorite splatband of all time. amazing video, i love splatoon and music and i enjoy seeing people smarter than me talk about it

  • @mmmmmmph3443
    @mmmmmmph3443 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As a violist spiccato is an extremely fun technique however if you didn’t know we use that technique when we are trying to play fast notes or in general eighth notes (agent 8 reference??) staccato which just means to make our notes short and crisp and have the next one attack it’s much easier to do that instead of stopping and starting our bows really fast. Also loved the video!

    • @fiveeyesstreams
      @fiveeyesstreams  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ahh that makes sense! I can see how that would be useful for rhythms like that. Thanks for the insight!

  • @luckfolly1183
    @luckfolly1183 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm so glad I'm not the only one who both noticed and LOVED this detail with the enemies!

  • @Mariescrustydustyleftposaylip
    @Mariescrustydustyleftposaylip 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    26:55 A little late for this, but parallel canon will actually imitate or copy your color pallet. Interestingly, this makes the boss more difficult on floor 20 than it is on floor 10. Just thought that was cool and made their name more fitting..

  • @motis6885
    @motis6885 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you for this video ! It was really cool to learn about all the details, I noticed the italian naming convention on my first run but never really figured out what it meant (i thought they were coffee names or something at first).
    Also, you mentioned how the Spectrum Obligato leitmotif is used in the level clear theme, but I also love that the boss clear theme was a teaser for We're so Back, the new Splatfest song for Inkopolis Square on day 2 of splatfests. It's cool that they left a hint of what it sounded like before we could hear it (also the name of that song is peak).

  • @ssoliee
    @ssoliee 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    TEACH ME MUSIC BUT MAKE IT SPLATOON. As someone who isn't a musician in any way, but loves to listen to music, this video was such a fun watch! it was fun learning the names and what they mean as far as music goes. Thank you so much for your hard work on this video!

  • @neko7046
    @neko7046 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    as a band student, seeing the names of the jelletons made me so happy bc it was like i knew everything abt the way they work

  • @REDACTED_ALIAS
    @REDACTED_ALIAS 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    For the "Asynchronous Rondo" onymoron, maybe it's mesnt to be a description of how the boss works. On one hand, it's chaotic. It's segments spin incongtuently, it hurls out droves of splat bombs and Homing Arpeggio, and it sounds like if I surgically implanted a cheese grater into an octioling's vocal chords. But on the other, it's very easy to read. It's main attack only happens when you enter it's spotlight, and while said main attack differs depending on the layer of the Rondo, the screen next to the spotlight outright says what it throws at you if you get caught. It's predictable, yet chaotic. Uniform, yet incongruent. Rondo's entire fight is an oxymoron, so why shouldn't it's name also be one?

  • @Lemonade-Tree
    @Lemonade-Tree 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    26:32 I also think that a small part of Parralelle Canon might be named because, PARRALELLE to the CANON octoling rivals, you face off against inklings

  • @Nezumiin
    @Nezumiin 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you for making this video essay! I dont know much about musical terms, but Splatoon is my favourite game. so it was fun and insightful to learn about something new in combination with something I love ♥ I've enjoyed every climb of the spire so far, now I can enjoy it with even more appreciation for the development team!

  • @inkspencil2
    @inkspencil2 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    THIS IS SO WELL PUT TOGETHER, I CSNT WAIT TO SEE MORE

  • @KayFiOS
    @KayFiOS 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You said that this was your first video essay, but you really could have fooled me, because this was very well made. It was informative, but also entertaining. Nicely done!

  • @jennxiaoo
    @jennxiaoo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    the musical integration is one of my favorite things about side order/splatoon in general- it makes my music nerd self super happy lmao

  • @BoomingStudios1
    @BoomingStudios1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I love this in depth review and watched the entire thing. I always think it’s so cool when people who have talents like music creation, pick out cool details in games I love! Great video 👍

  • @morp4212
    @morp4212 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    27:50 there is also a much more obvious indicator that they are inlklings, when you splat one the kill marker shows an inkling lol

  • @cheebins
    @cheebins 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I was hoping someone would make a video on this!! really well done analysis

  • @this_guy1010
    @this_guy1010 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    my favorite part of being a band student is knowing all this and agreeing with everything youre saying

  • @FryedCalamari
    @FryedCalamari 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Another thing about the Pinging Marciale is that it makes a distinctive ping sound whenever it charges

    • @alexgrunde6682
      @alexgrunde6682 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Pinging is also a sound design technique used to get musical sounds out of filters.

  • @GooberLP
    @GooberLP 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It's probably worth a quick "spoiler" thing here for people that stumble across this and haven't seen/played side order. I am talking about the bosses (including the final one) and points brought up in the video.
    Asynchronous Rondo I think is the first enemy in general that really clicked in my head as a musician as "Oh riiiiight, rondo style" and it made me like the boss more than I already did.
    Parallel Canon I recognized the musical term canon pretty quickly and how it applied, but as that was already far and away my favorite boss it didn't change a whole lot.
    Marina Agitando is an interesting one to me. I have always interpreted agitando as more agitated. Given that Marina is, I'll say possessed, by order, I think it also fits. Order is annoyed that its plan is being annoyed. It (presumably) trapped Marina in the Memverse to facilitate/expidite its plan and you are coming along to stop it. Granted, I feel like this is kinda a devil's advocate moment on this point in particular for me (as I also think you are correct about how it is effecting Marina), it is clear there is agitation happening too.
    That being said, Pinging Marciale will forever be "very rude ball". While I was not familiar with marciale as a term before, with the new knowledge I got from this vid (Very good one btw) my feeling is that the name is less about the boss itself, and more about you as a player. While pinging absolutely is more about the boss bouncing around like a pinball, I feel that marciale is more about you, always needing to approach the boss. Marching towards it, one could say.
    As far as the enemies go, I am usually too busy being stressed to think about their names (sprinkler fella can go away forever as far as I care), but I did recognize them as musical terms. And given splatoon's history of music, I figured they would have some sort of actual meaning. Heck, the attacks of the final boss go along with the music. Which, funilly enough, made it easier for me to actually figure out how to dodge them consistently haha

  • @DekuGamer
    @DekuGamer 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is such a fascinating video! You did such a great job explaining these things and putting it all together. I've always found the witty names in Splatoon so interesting and knowing that the jelletons have meaning attached to their actions makes me appreciate the production of Side Order in a whole other level. Great work!