I love when men say that women don't actually want a man whose funny, as if Dylan, Kurtis, Drew, Danny, Jarvis, and other hugely successful male comic commentator channels don't predominantly have female audiences.
FR like Dylan has thousands of female audience members with his Milo Thatch lookin ass and does so well for himself that even after migrating channels he's still doing well.
The "women don't work hard because construction work is male dominated" argument has always seemed so ridiculous to me because it only works if you completely ignore all of the dirty, difficult and physically demanding work that's female dominated. Most personal support workers, nurses and elder care professionals are women. That involves working long 12 hour shifts, sometimes at night, dealing with blood and piss and other bodily fluids. They often have to lift patients, and deal with confused and aggressive people with dementia. By the original logic you could just as easily claim that men don't want to work hard otherwise we'd see more of them in these positions.
Right but "being a nurse requiers more empathy and emotional labour so it's feminine and therefore weak, but we men just strong and lift things so we better (plus cave man noises probably)"
Men like this simply don't view being a nurse as hard work; I definitely remember when I was in high school a few years back "male nurses" were a frequent topic of ridicule among the boys. If there ever was a nurse mentioned in a book/assignment or whatever and they turned out to be a man, every single time there was an immediate barrage of jokes and comments about his masculinity, whether he wasn't good enough to be a doctor, if he took the job in order to have only women as his colleagues and just all that bs. Like basically any primarily female occupied area, that profession is heavily belittled by these people.
also like homemakers/housewives. they do tons of physically and emotionally taxing stuff like cleaning, cooking, and raising kids, all work that men come home from work and see and CHOOSE not to do.
@@Naahi95 I think he has worn that before, but I wouldn't be surprised if he were to point out that he has washed some clothes finally and is wearing something different from the usual
of course attractiveness is something women look for in relationships, isn’t that the same for everyone else? traits like honesty and being funny are what make you *stay* in the relationship
Also, physical attractiveness is entirely subjective. From person to person, it just isn’t all the same. Just because someone doesn’t look like Timothee Chalamet (which, surprise, no one does), doesn’t mean they’re not gonna find someone. And if you choose to believe that, you are becoming part of the reason why you can’t find someone, by holding yourself back from going out and meeting more people, and increasing the possibility of finding your tribe or finding someone who might be really attracted to. Because side note, just because someone is stereotypically and physically attractive, doesn’t mean they can’t have common interests with you, or be similar in their beliefs or whatever. Be real, be courageous, and build up your confidence, and you will do fine. And have an open mind
Plus standards for women are so high and for men they’re so low like honestly a man who’s funny w a great personality and healthy amount of confidence can def pull all he wants even if he isn’t super attractive. I would know since I’m friends w a very quiet and reserved dude who’s conventionally very attractive and who never pulled in his LIFE. But then I see less attractive funny guys literally be surrounded by women. How is THAT vampire dude saying personality/humor is not what women look for, like how would YOU know? Are you a woman or do women want you? None of those? That’s what I thought.
Women absolutely want someone funny, men want someone funny. Nobody wants to only talk seriously all the time, imagine being together for 4 years and running out of stories and opinions to talk about and now there's nothing to talk about because you're above comedy
My literal benchmark for guys is they have to be funny to be able to hold a conversation with me. We have to be able to talk about everything and anything, if not I will be MISERABLE.
i'm a lesbian so i can't speak for straight women, but humor is literally one of the most important things in my attraction. if someone has a good sense of humor i'm infinitely more likely to be attracted to them and i don't think i could be in a relationship with someone i can't laugh with. his take on that was completely bizarre to me
This guy definitely had a go to joke that he thought was hilarious, but no girl ever laughed at it. So now he tells everyone that no girl wants a funny guy because his jokes don’t make people laugh
@@naaat3278definitely not, I know for a fact me and all of my friends would rather date someone that’s into DnD, horror or science fiction etc then a sexist women hater lmfao
sometimes i wonder do straight men even LIKE women? do they even understand that we're not only our bodies and that we have a humour and a soul? goddamn. Dylan thank you for talking about this topic
@@daisykisses8803 I'm gonna be straight-up with you, I've known my friends since I was like 7, so I probably do love them more than I would my gf. Not romantically though ofc
I’m Australian and we do not claim him. What kind of Aussie bloke hates humour? All we do down here is banter. I can’t remember the last time I had a serious conversation
A great aussie vtuber is Luca Kaneshiro and he's pretty funny and not misogynistic with a pretty large female audience but I believe as well a decent size male audience cause he just loves to mess with people.
@@mariposa99 Luca’s entire existence is messing with people it’s great. Such a contrast to this vampire bozo I don’t even wanna put them in the same sentence
@@Denturess I know what you mean but we need to show that they are some great male vtubers out there especially for the people who are unaware of this type of streamers/content.
As a woman, this whole red pill thing is very disturbing and scary but having people like Dylan adress it and show the holes in their discourse makes me feel safer and hopeful.
It's very scary bc a lot of this rhetoric leads to the alt right pipeline and radicalized young men/boys to uphold patriarchy which is a staple in white supremacy ideology. Everyone should be disturbed by ppl like these red pill alpha male Podcaster types.
Every movement is bound to have extremist it wasn’t too long ago and maybe even currently that people have expressed this exact sentiment in reference to feminism.
It’s genuinely terrifying seeing men like this vampire guy, and others, who have platforms and communities just to try and spread hatred towards women. So I’m extremely grateful when I see other men, like you, and other people, who support women and call out this toxic/sexist behaviour. So thank you! It’s impossible to see how these women hating men think they deserve respect from anyone when they have demeaning and disrespectful opinions. We all need to support one another. But anyways, thank you again Dylan for your logical arguments, humour and support!
seriously... and its not like he is doing that into the void. its usually SO hard to gain any starting audience on youtube. you need to really put in the work. people buy expensive equipment, pay editors, think and workshop video ideas for months... and here he just talks about hating women. terrible audio, no camera, not much thought behind his video concepts, no editing, literally no humor cause he doesn't get it... and he managed to swoop in an audience of 50k per video. because he HATES WOMEN. that's insane to me. men want this type of content so badly its this easy to succeed with it. Im really losing hope here
this vampire dude and andrew Tate is growing as a community and it is GENUINELY concerning.. this alpha male influencer thing is really taking us back bc it’s teaching young boys that women aren’t meant to be respected and are objects. and the fact that it works so well like… none of these boys who follow these types of influencers think to themselves “this is wrong”…. it’s like they weren’t already raised to treat women like people so now they have adults reinforcing that women don’t deserve respect. that’s the part that absolutely baffles me
You probably have already heard, but good news Greta Thunberg got Andrew Tate arrested or at least assisted by making him angry and he got arrested in Romania
As a woman I think splitting the price is perfect for a first date and for future dates, the whole "the man is to pay" just makes me feel uncomfortable, so having someone pay for my food is just a no no for me personally
In terms of paying to a date I feel like there are two fair options: 1.The person who ask the other one on the date should pay 2. They should split the check evenly
The problem with splitting evenly is when one person is buying expensive food, and the other person gets something cheap. Better to split the bill by each paying for what they got, rather than 50/50.
yep. I'm a girl and I was getting ready to agree w the vampire's answer to the first tiktok (I think its unfair that the guy is required to pay for the date), but as soon as he started talking I was like nvm 🥸
I think it can also depend on the place suggested. If one person really can’t afford what the other person is suggesting, the if the suggester insists they should pay
It's things like this that make me glad for my dating experiences. I've always thought if they say want to treat you, let them pay. If you want to treat them, say so! And if neither of you say anything about treating the other? Bring your wallet and pay for what you ordered. It wasn't until the Internet that I realised this isn't how everyone does this
No. 2 is definitely way more fair. I don't like number 1 bc it's a relationship and that is comprised of 2 people. I do hate this red pill crap, I think these guys are just bitter defects.
As a woman it's terrifying knowing so many men are out there with this ideology and hatred, it's stamped all over my social media. Walking the streets is so scary, and it shouldn't be. These attitudes against women should not still be a thing. Thank you for bringing a logical argument to this
As one of the 7 men in Dylan's fanbase I'll say it's just a loud minority (Wait! Im African I can say that!) of men at large. The rest of us are just as confused and amused...Conmused? As Dylan here.
@@s.m2895 😂, I guess I'm one of the 7. I just challenge the people close to me when I hear them say something weird. Arguing on the internet is pointless.
As a petite woman(I’m 4’8 and 19 years old) it’s extremely scary to know that there are men that just hate us. I live in constant cautious fear. I love that Dylan calls this stuff out because it needs to be addressed!
I mean fear is sensible, the world is a dangerous place, you should be cautious. Luckily these people aren't generally good at hiding it so you can realise just by talking. The actually dangerous people are the ones you don't suspect, the Ted Bundy types who appear normal and can keep it all hidden until they are alone with you...
That vampire guy’s brain is broken, you will never make sense of it. He has picked one narrative and only seeks out examples to support it. He is fully committed to keeping on blinders to anything else.
Yep, it's called confirmation bias I think, where you perceive all new information in such a way that it confirms your pre-existing beliefs. Because you're subconsciously seeking to confirm those beliefs, you interpret the same information differently. Hence, even if there's a video of a woman agreeing with his ideas, because he already has a bias against women (for whatever reason) he will take it as that woman lying or trying to manipulate men etc as if she's some undercover spy lol and won't believe her or agree with what she says
First time commenting, long-time viewer: thank GOD for men like Dylan. Whenever I see folks on twitter shitting on him it's always over the most inane things, and I'm always thinking how they have no idea what's actually bad. Same thing when he's "controversial" when he's just pointing out ideas and viewpoints no one notices or no one wants to say out loud, which I appreciate it. I've seen these red pill idiots and as a woman, it's annoying at best and disturbing at worst. Dylan's perspective and decency is _really_ gratifying, and it's a relief to subscribe to someone that has a good head on his shoulders. Not to mention, he's hilarious! So that answers the question of "do you want someone funny?" YES. I'm a serious person and I'd bang my head into a wall if I found my date not funny. And on who should pay for the first date: I'm a lesbian, so it depends on whether my girlfriend wants to or me or we split. lol
can I say it's SO funny that this guy chose a VAMPIRE avatar, whilst spreading his toxic masculine discourse, knowing GOD DAMN WELL that lot of girl grew up with watpad-type vampire fantasy. very pick me vibe in its own twisted particular way.
It's honestly so reassuring to see a man NOT hate women. It seems like that's all there is on social media right now, which obviously doesn't reflect true reality, but still is incredibly ridiculous to have to deal with. People like Tate and this vampire are too dumb to have these platforms, yet their ego stroking garners an audience - well, an echo chamber. Looking forward to your "red pill" analysis video 👍
honestly. TH-cam has become a cesspool for these type of obnoxious dudes who keep popping up ever so often like a recurring trend. They follow new conservative influencers because the old ones like milo yiannopoulos got taken down for pedophilia comments and other scandals. And these new rage influencers soon will be taken down because their business model of raging at women or minorities is gonna slip up, say unacceptable things and get them in trouble one day. Then another rage influencer will take their place and the cycle repeats.
I mean u right but its the literally the same with women its literally been the norm to hate men for years. like ever girl i talk to even my own friends say things like "men are trash" "i hate men" there are songs about how much they hate men and ever girl is like YASS or QUEEN its even in kids movies the iconic "ugh men. 🙄😒" now look im not tryna defend a side just stating a point that people hating and stereotyping both men and women and it needs to stop.
@@jejeamaris8186 I agree that generalising the genders is bad. However the world we live in today, they aren't the same. the difference is that if a woman says she hates men it's just usually her being annoying and no one takes her seriously cos people see it as light banter. Meanwhile if a guy opening goes around saying "I hate women" we have no way of knowing whether it's just a guy suffering from a normal heartbreak or an incel mass murderer like Elliot Rodgers or Jake Davison. There's clearly something more concerning with the women hating crowd than those who go "Yaaasss Queen" (I think the "I hate men" phase is long over already) and that's why it's so concerning with the rise of these influencers who blatantly tell their male audiences these warped views.
@@jejeamaris8186 women and even really young girls are by and large the predominant victims of sexual crimes perpetrated by straight men. It's a statistical FACT. You cannot argue this at all, no matter how it irks you. Is it unfortunate for the men who are actually decent human beings? Of course it is. I've had interactions with both good men AND absolute trash, and I have to say there is not one single woman I've met that hasn't gone through some kind of sexual harassment from men. Including me. Doesn't mean I'm gonna overlook the good guys. It's not women who are at fault here. It's THOSE HORRID MEN who give good guys a bad rep. Go deal with them.
I really don't get why all these men whined over something they never had. They obviously had no girlfriends, no wife, and no huge income to be taken advantage of. All these drama, pls go marry your dudes instead
The best part of this video is when Dylan takes the moments where he's mocking the incel dude by saying what he would probably think and puts "Clip This!". Like he knows haters will take it out of context so he provides them the timestamps like a petty bitch. I'm obsessed
In my culture, if you invite someone to go somewhere, it's kind of expected that you intend to pay for the outing, whether it's date, a friend, or a family member. It's not as hard and fast a rule as it used to be, but it's still considered the polite thing to do.
This just shows how sexism and just general toxic gender standards are far from being abolished in this day and age. By the way, that hammer, spatula joke absolutely killed me, am I the only one?
to be fair, i know more man-hating women than women-hating men. though that might be because i'm a woman and those guys would be too scared to interact with me lol
Hey Dylan, thank you for being a great person and taking time and effort to call this stuff out. As a woman, it’s actually incredibly terrifying that these communities exist and such hatred is out there for us. We live our lives with the constant undercurrent of the possibility of violence against us. But it makes me feel genuinely heartened to hear how strong an ally you are, calling bullshit on this stuff and trying to make the world better. Thank you!
Exactly! We’ve been living in a world we’re we are seen as objects, things that can be used and disposes off (not saying that it’s everyone experiencing or that there aren’t people who value us as humans and respect us as such). When we don’t play their parts or even if we do they harass us, beat us, and violate us. Then we are blamed and punish for it. We are sexually exploited and unvalued. I’m sure this is not everyone’s experience but for some it is. We are shackled by family/society expectations, religion and sometimes cultures. I thought women rights was making things more equal or giving us a foot in, but as the years progress I’m finding our rights being diminished and now we have channels and communities bringing more hate toward us and it makes me terrified, not just for me but for my girls. It’s a relief that we see People like Dylan who is supporting us in this way, using his platform to educate. Which says a lot because I came for the laughs and to escape. But I’m glad he created this channel to talk about some topics and even though some are serious, I like that he brings humor to the table and still get his message across
It's all based on the understanding of the transactional nature of life. If women bring looks and men bring money, then women eventually lose value over time and if women get jobs men lose value to women. Ultimately they chose to see it as something kind of struggle, men vs women.
Absolutely love Dylan's ability to laugh. The source he talks about in this video is absolutely ludicrous and if I were forced to take it seriously I would find it depressing and offensive. However, Dylan's humor makes it an ejoyable video that can still address the problems within this community. I've seen a lot of commentary channels that only focus on negativity and nothing is better than the way Dylan can both make his viewers laugh and genuinely think. Great video, Dylan. Can't wait for your big thesis.
as a bi women i alway think the person who asked the other out should pay for it. so yeah if you ask a girl out to dinner you should pay and if you ask a guy out to dinner you should pay. splitting the bill also always works tho!
Only on the first dates but I agree with the suggestion idea but after that I think splitting the bills the best idea by far because it takes two people to work the relationship and both people agree to go on a date so therefore it only logically make sense to split the bill
As a woman, I don't expect a man to pay for the date unless he's specifically told me he would like to. I'll happily pay half every time. I kind of roll with the rule of thumb being whoever chooses the venue should be prepared to pay, but the other person should always offer to pay half out of basic courtesy. Also, love the content. Always fun & entertaining!
“A guy being funny is basically non-existent”. Well, folks, you heard it here. I guess my being told I was super funny by girls when I was a kid was just a big lie, cause it’s scientifically proven, thanks to Taylor the Fiend over here, that men cannot be funny
Every time Dylan says "the vampire is going to explain xyz" I cackle because of how ridiculous that shit is. A 2D or 3D vampire ranting about how much he hates women...we truly are in the end times
Just yesterday I was wondering “when will Dylan be back?” because I have basically binge-watched your old videos for the last 2 weeks, and boom, new Ooga Booga video, God bless. Your content brings me so much joy, I swear I never get enough of it. Love you!
Bro sense of humor is so important in any relationship platonic or not... having the same sense of humor as someone gives you something in common that is so easy to bond over because jokes can be made about anything and everything.
well, that guy just wants his non-existing future wife to cook, clean and have babys, so they won't have time to laugh. he must be such a sad person, i almost feel bad for him. The literal best part about my relationship with my boyfrien is that we have so much fun and inside jokes
@@gisela_oliveira yep. I wonder what his childhood was like... did he ever laugh as a kid and just stopped one day or did he always find fun pointless and a waste of time?
I think I read somewhere once that laughter is literally good for you and can even extend your life. this vampire dude is looking at a few more lonely and sad years if he never finds joy in laughter
Wow he could not be MORE wrong about women not liking funny guys 😂 almost every single woman I know has stated at least once that if a man can *genuinely* make her laugh, he instantly becomes 10X more attractive in her eyes (myself included). It's 100% true for most women lmfao
Personally I think splitting the bill on any date is fair if you’re two grown adults and not babies but I also saw someone make the point that in along term relationship how much each person pays on dates should depend on what they earn ie can afford to pay, if one partner makes two times more then the other then splitting everything 50/50 isn’t a fair split which I agree with. My mind still boggles that these red pill types are actually real people that exist and don’t get how brainwashed they are by the standardised toxic masculinity in society, like guys toxic masculinity is bad for you too
@@milannoelle1576 a lot of guys do because it is what they have been told they have to do for decades and if they want to it’s fine as long as the thought behind it is something like I like this girl , it’s a nice time I want to pay for it and not if I pay for this date then she owes me or I have now bought her body or some shit
It's an individual thing. You're setting up the dynamic for your relationship in a lot of ways when you choose to pay for the other person. There's a *slight* bit of dominance going on, which sounds off-putting, but that's how all relationships are. Friendly _or_ romantic. It isn't always a bad thing. But for people who don't give a shit about gender roles, especially when gender itself is non-traditional (homosexual relationships), it's pretty meaningless. Just work it out with the person you're on a date with. I mean hell, the whole notion of going out to eat for a first date is stupid to me. Hang out with them. Watch a movie at your place or something. Going out "properly" is so old-fashioned. If you really want it, I mean go for it, but that also sets the tone for the whole relationship as much as paying for the the other person's meal does. It's just not as simple as "men should always pay" or "men should never pay". It always depends on the person you're with and who you are as a person.
If you ask me out and you pay that's cool also just take me somewhere affordable why are you spending a bunch of money on a first date where you don't know what the outcome will be?
MY GOD. That clip where he's berating Loris for suggesting that whoever initiated the date should pay is insufferable. Comparing her statement to eating out with friends. It's specifically about dating dude, stick to the subject. He goes on these dumbass tangents to try and make a point while straying away from the point lmao. Also yes, women will put attractive over funniness, initially, since being attracted to someone is the first frigging step in dating someone and being with someone. That isn't exclusive to just women, everyone does it. But once you've gotten to know that person, being funny is a stand out trait that will make majority of us like you more and want to be with you longer. If you're boring and serious all the time we don't want you. Who wants to be in a boring, laughless relationship where everyone is serious all the time? Probably why the vampire guy is single lmao.
mr vampire is is 1000% single. he legit needs to seek therapy cause I cannot imagine being so insufferable and then blame all women for the reason no one wants to date you.
@@cynthia.c 100% that man needs therapy. Having that toxic mindset is not good for anyone. I have seen too many killers with his mindset. But he probably thinks therapy is for the weak, and a strong and an Immortal being like him don’t need it.
There was a guy in my communications class that was like this guy. It’s honestly a bit terrifying because these are the kind of guys that will assault a woman and think they have the right to.
Bringing up how our society atm generally NEEDS a two-person income stream is a perfect talking point for the whole "first date" debate. It's a red flag if either side wants the other to pay in full. In this economy?? 😂
My mom always told me that however invites the person on a date, pays for the meal. No matter the gender. I think she has a point but I always just pay for my things :)
Good policy. Even when it comes to hanging out with friends. Like, yesterday, I invited my friend to see Nope with me, so I paid for our tickets and concessions
Same. Whenever I hang out with friends, I always split the bill. If I buy something more expensive than others, I pay for my extra shit. It's also a good idea if you have a system of paying alternatively each time you hang out
Honestly, all these incels having a platform where they can reach thousands of young people is extremely scary. Sadly, it seems like being a decent human being is something extraordinary for a lot of these men and not just the bare minimum. Thanks, Dylan, it is very heartwarming to know there are still decent men like you out there.
to me, it's fairer to split the bill on most dates and if the relationship develops I actually think it's nice to just treat them to dinner or something every now and then, or them doing the same for me cause I don't think it has anything to do with gender, it's just a nice little gesture to show appreciation. also, there actually are a lot of male vtubers who are genuinely funny and super chill so please don't lump them in together with this guy!
While I agree for the 1st date or first cpl dates splitting the bill makes sense. Bt in a relationship constantly splitting everything is tiring and can make the relationship feel more like a friendship. In a relationship whoever wants to cover the date should cover the date. Esp if you live together and you're building a life together financially.
@@seroquelz yeah! I agree, if you're at the point of living together then sure you can come to an agreement on financial matters but, if it's just a casual relationship or it's still the beginning I think splitting is fine or even taking turns or something.
I also think it's quite ridiculous that these incel type guys just seem to forget that gay people exist and that there is no issue at all with paying for dates and stuff. For them hetero is the default and anything beyond that is just not comprehensible at all
wow as a woman I learnt so much about myself thanks to this vampire : I don't bring anything to the table, I hate funny guys, I don't want to do manual labor and obviously I don't care about good values 🙃🙃
what luck there are good salt of the earth guys like him out there to let us little women know what we want and need. alas, how else will we ever know?
God, I don't think I will be able to finish this video. Not because of Dylan, of course, he is good. It's just the things that Vampire is saying is making my blood boil. But I'll maybe sit through it for Dylan. He worked hard on this video, deserves the views.
I can’t even get pass the vampire voice, yet alone pay enough attention to what he’s saying. It sounds nasaly, stuffed, and sick even if what he was saying was reasonable- I mean it’s not but even on the very small silver lining it was, even if he said something as plain and simple as “the sky is blue”, the voice just makes me want to stab my ear drums.
For the first date, whoever asked pays, although I personally would make a move to pay for my food, after it becomes a regular thing, or you're a couple you should be confident enough to switch it up, "damn I didn't get paid this week Babe can you cover and I get the next?", you can split sometimes, or take turns.
I'm old-fashioned and think men should pay for dates, but Loris's comment is good. If a man asks a woman on a date, it's not crazy to think he'd pay. The thing about friends is a total false equivalency. In some cultures it's normal to pay for friends, but in America it's very common for friends to each pay for themselves. That's completely different from a date.
It’s fair but considering 9 times out of 10 it’s men asking for dates because women don’t need to or want to is kinda a good counter point to that point😂
@@austinlarrimore6542 It's a symptom of the same gender role expectation to be fair. Men are expected to be more assertive and chivalrous by asking, women are expected to be demure and "sought after" and therefore wait to be asked. It doesn't help that assertiveness in women can also be looked down on too.
Here I am trying to laugh but instead literally getting chills down my spine realising the fact that such dedicated communities exist. Thank you Dylan for everything you do. All things aside, you are an absolutely amazing human being (maybe humor has something to do with it Idk 😝).
Not only does laughter build bonds between people but it also releases endorphins similar to when you workout or have sex. Those endorphins not only make you more relaxed but have been shown to reduce physical pain and increase your immune system. Who wouldn’t find that attractive and desire it in a partner?
Thank god I'm not the only one 😭😭😭, I was really scared and was checking on everywhere to just know If he is Fine.. I was so happy to see that he posted 💜💜
Note to Taylor: if you’re so frustrated with dating, just don’t do it (if you ever have). Focus on bettering yourself, maybe seek therapy. Sort through why you resent women so much and make a plan to change that and act on it. And don’t focus on finding someone, just focus on your life and career goals, and be open to just making new friends and trying new things. See what happens. However it happens, meeting someone special always happens when it’s least expected, whether that’s thru friends, as friends, or you meet someone out and about and just start dating from there, or on a dating app. Just don’t be misogynistic, too. That’s like ninety nine percent of the battle when it comes to making it remotely possible to get a girlfriend, or least get a date with a woman
My personal rule for first dates is I always split, I pay for what I ordered. Unless they offer to pay, then I'll gladly accept. When I'm in a relationship I generally split as well, but I will try to keep it fairly equal and pay for their meals, some random gifts, just to show I respect my partner as an equal. It also can depend on who is making more money, and I'm honest about when I have some money I can spend and when I'm stressed about it and would rather do an activity that doesn't require money.
I'm straight but the whole binary concept of giving men and women certain rules and roles for dates is so much of an ick for me. It makes dating seem like a challenge or conquest that takes away from the fact you're supposed to be meeting people you think you'd enjoy, it creates so much pressure for something that DOES NOT have to be this complicated with communication and self awareness. If we're talking about the bill conversation, I think you should always at least be prepared to pay for yourself. The rest, once again, comes with communication.
As a woman, I like splitting the bill or paying for everything myself because then I know it won't get used as some kind of emotional blackmail leverage to try to get me to do things I don't want to. If I could actually genuinely trust the other person, then if they invite me out and want to treat me, it's like, "Okay cool that's nice." But honestly that would be something I'd be more comfortable with if we already knew we wanted to date a bit, that way I could treat them on the next date and pay them back. So yeah idk I guess I don't like having someone pay for me
I agree my husband payed for all meals when we were dating, as we were together for longer we kid of just naturally split bills. Now he pays for the four walls and I pay for the rest ( ie vacations, dance class for our kids, dr bills)!
the fact that HE DOESN'T LIKE HUMOR is the funniest thing
Right 🤣
Yet his whole channel is sort of one huge joke in of itself....
Ironic
He's not even giving dating advice. He's giving ANTI-dating advice, so that people end up as miserable as him.
True
i swear to god he should just google what aromanticism/asexuality is and save the world the misogyny-
Typical vampire behaviour 😤
Spot-ON, my guy
*mic drop
I love when men say that women don't actually want a man whose funny, as if Dylan, Kurtis, Drew, Danny, Jarvis, and other hugely successful male comic commentator channels don't predominantly have female audiences.
FR like Dylan has thousands of female audience members with his Milo Thatch lookin ass and does so well for himself that even after migrating channels he's still doing well.
@@Lyexsah LMAO
Right. And successful long term relationships/marriages
That’s cause the men who say that aren’t actually funny they just think they are and Danny drew kurtis Jarvis and Dylan are actually funny
You took the words right out of my mouth. This is exactly what I was thinking. Those exact TH-camrs too 😂❤
The "women don't work hard because construction work is male dominated" argument has always seemed so ridiculous to me because it only works if you completely ignore all of the dirty, difficult and physically demanding work that's female dominated.
Most personal support workers, nurses and elder care professionals are women. That involves working long 12 hour shifts, sometimes at night, dealing with blood and piss and other bodily fluids. They often have to lift patients, and deal with confused and aggressive people with dementia. By the original logic you could just as easily claim that men don't want to work hard otherwise we'd see more of them in these positions.
Right but "being a nurse requiers more empathy and emotional labour so it's feminine and therefore weak, but we men just strong and lift things so we better (plus cave man noises probably)"
Men like this simply don't view being a nurse as hard work; I definitely remember when I was in high school a few years back "male nurses" were a frequent topic of ridicule among the boys. If there ever was a nurse mentioned in a book/assignment or whatever and they turned out to be a man, every single time there was an immediate barrage of jokes and comments about his masculinity, whether he wasn't good enough to be a doctor, if he took the job in order to have only women as his colleagues and just all that bs. Like basically any primarily female occupied area, that profession is heavily belittled by these people.
Chad chad honestly crushed that argument. She's awesome and you should check her out!!
also like homemakers/housewives. they do tons of physically and emotionally taxing stuff like cleaning, cooking, and raising kids, all work that men come home from work and see and CHOOSE not to do.
meanwhile i actually know some females that work in construction and they work very very hard
the ONE TIME Dylan actually wears something new he doesn’t go out of his way to point it out 😂
Lol. I didn’t even notice
I swear I've seen this shirt before
He's a humble king, also idk why but I read it as " the one Dylan time" as if you call his vids as Dylan time.
@@Naahi95 I think he has worn that before, but I wouldn't be surprised if he were to point out that he has washed some clothes finally and is wearing something different from the usual
I was gonna say that
This was the weirdest sounding ooga entrance Dylan’s ever made
Yes and i was wearing earphones, volume on max😃
@@trisha4551 Same
It becomes more obscure every video! Im here for it😂
@@trisha4551 💀💀
OOGA ENTRANCE😭
Imagine getting your dating advice from someone who’s so alpha he can’t show his face and has to hide behind a cartoon vampire.
of course attractiveness is something women look for in relationships, isn’t that the same for everyone else?
traits like honesty and being funny are what make you *stay* in the relationship
Also, physical attractiveness is entirely subjective. From person to person, it just isn’t all the same. Just because someone doesn’t look like Timothee Chalamet (which, surprise, no one does), doesn’t mean they’re not gonna find someone. And if you choose to believe that, you are becoming part of the reason why you can’t find someone, by holding yourself back from going out and meeting more people, and increasing the possibility of finding your tribe or finding someone who might be really attracted to. Because side note, just because someone is stereotypically and physically attractive, doesn’t mean they can’t have common interests with you, or be similar in their beliefs or whatever. Be real, be courageous, and build up your confidence, and you will do fine. And have an open mind
Plus standards for women are so high and for men they’re so low like honestly a man who’s funny w a great personality and healthy amount of confidence can def pull all he wants even if he isn’t super attractive. I would know since I’m friends w a very quiet and reserved dude who’s conventionally very attractive and who never pulled in his LIFE. But then I see less attractive funny guys literally be surrounded by women. How is THAT vampire dude saying personality/humor is not what women look for, like how would YOU know? Are you a woman or do women want you? None of those? That’s what I thought.
@@Overseer2579Timothee chalamet reading this questioning his entire identity
Women absolutely want someone funny, men want someone funny. Nobody wants to only talk seriously all the time, imagine being together for 4 years and running out of stories and opinions to talk about and now there's nothing to talk about because you're above comedy
legit iyou'd emotionally burn out w someone who takes everything seriously
My literal benchmark for guys is they have to be funny to be able to hold a conversation with me. We have to be able to talk about everything and anything, if not I will be MISERABLE.
Not true everyone wants something different there is no generalization when it comes to what people want in a relationship
the sexiest quality is humour and banter. every relationship i’ve been in has been due to chats and laughs!
i'm a lesbian so i can't speak for straight women, but humor is literally one of the most important things in my attraction. if someone has a good sense of humor i'm infinitely more likely to be attracted to them and i don't think i could be in a relationship with someone i can't laugh with. his take on that was completely bizarre to me
This guy definitely had a go to joke that he thought was hilarious, but no girl ever laughed at it. So now he tells everyone that no girl wants a funny guy because his jokes don’t make people laugh
He repeats old Vines in totally irrelevant contexts and when nobody laughs he says, "What, are you guys uncultured?!"
@@iamsnail732 not to assume but I’m going to assume he doesn’t have a girlfriend. But that’s mainly because of the whole vampire persona thing🤠
@@naaat3278definitely not, I know for a fact me and all of my friends would rather date someone that’s into DnD, horror or science fiction etc then a sexist women hater lmfao
sometimes i wonder do straight men even LIKE women? do they even understand that we're not only our bodies and that we have a humour and a soul? goddamn. Dylan thank you for talking about this topic
This vampire for sure does not like women. Not sure why he's giving dating advice if he hates women so much
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@@omegasage777 A lot of these men seem like they love their friends more than women. Lol.
@@daisykisses8803 I'm gonna be straight-up with you, I've known my friends since I was like 7, so I probably do love them more than I would my gf. Not romantically though ofc
I promise most straight men aren't like this. These are "nice guys" and we don't claim them
I’m Australian and we do not claim him. What kind of Aussie bloke hates humour? All we do down here is banter. I can’t remember the last time I had a serious conversation
Ahh! I thought he sounded Australian but I was hoping I was wrong. We don't want him. Send him to Transylvania.
OMG is he supposed to be Aussie??? what the heck! I have literally never met a fellow Aussie who doesn't like to laugh and make other people laugh.
A great aussie vtuber is Luca Kaneshiro and he's pretty funny and not misogynistic with a pretty large female audience but I believe as well a decent size male audience cause he just loves to mess with people.
@@mariposa99 Luca’s entire existence is messing with people it’s great. Such a contrast to this vampire bozo I don’t even wanna put them in the same sentence
@@Denturess I know what you mean but we need to show that they are some great male vtubers out there especially for the people who are unaware of this type of streamers/content.
As a woman, this whole red pill thing is very disturbing and scary but having people like Dylan adress it and show the holes in their discourse makes me feel safer and hopeful.
It's very scary bc a lot of this rhetoric leads to the alt right pipeline and radicalized young men/boys to uphold patriarchy which is a staple in white supremacy ideology. Everyone should be disturbed by ppl like these red pill alpha male Podcaster types.
I love Kurtis Conner as well for the good vibes 😊
@@laurajaynenolan2149 yesss, he's great
Every movement is bound to have extremist it wasn’t too long ago and maybe even currently that people have expressed this exact sentiment in reference to feminism.
safer? lmao
the way he kept comparing dates to hanging out with friends, its obvious he's never had a real relationship💀💀
I bet he had to pay for a lot of imaginary women😔😔😔
Not even sure he has friends, my friends and I shout each other food all the time
It’s genuinely terrifying seeing men like this vampire guy, and others, who have platforms and communities just to try and spread hatred towards women. So I’m extremely grateful when I see other men, like you, and other people, who support women and call out this toxic/sexist behaviour. So thank you! It’s impossible to see how these women hating men think they deserve respect from anyone when they have demeaning and disrespectful opinions. We all need to support one another. But anyways, thank you again Dylan for your logical arguments, humour and support!
seriously... and its not like he is doing that into the void. its usually SO hard to gain any starting audience on youtube. you need to really put in the work. people buy expensive equipment, pay editors, think and workshop video ideas for months... and here he just talks about hating women. terrible audio, no camera, not much thought behind his video concepts, no editing, literally no humor cause he doesn't get it... and he managed to swoop in an audience of 50k per video. because he HATES WOMEN. that's insane to me. men want this type of content so badly its this easy to succeed with it. Im really losing hope here
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this vampire dude and andrew Tate is growing as a community and it is GENUINELY concerning.. this alpha male influencer thing is really taking us back bc it’s teaching young boys that women aren’t meant to be respected and are objects. and the fact that it works so well like… none of these boys who follow these types of influencers think to themselves “this is wrong”…. it’s like they weren’t already raised to treat women like people so now they have adults reinforcing that women don’t deserve respect. that’s the part that absolutely baffles me
You probably have already heard, but good news Greta Thunberg got Andrew Tate arrested or at least assisted by making him angry and he got arrested in Romania
No joke now,my 9 year old got called fatherless by a kid in her class,he's preaching tate rhetoric at her school.....the kid is 9
@@missvoorhees7964 Holy s**t that's disturbing. Can the school do something about that since the parents clearly aren't?
He DOESNT laugh y’all… he just talks about the economic and emotional state of the world with his friends that he wants to kiss so badly
As a woman I think splitting the price is perfect for a first date and for future dates, the whole "the man is to pay" just makes me feel uncomfortable, so having someone pay for my food is just a no no for me personally
Exactly, I don’t wanna feel bad if I wanna get something on the more expensive side. Or if your dating paying every other date is fair
right?? I always split the bill because I never want to feel like I owe them something
i'm glad i'm not only one who splits the bill
Exactly man splitt the bill or i will pay the bill which what I have chose to ate it's the best and neither feel being used
Right! I mean why not pay for what you ordered lol
He's the embodyment of a man who cheats and gets all frustrated that you wanna leave his ass
In terms of paying to a date I feel like there are two fair options:
1.The person who ask the other one on the date should pay
2. They should split the check evenly
The problem with splitting evenly is when one person is buying expensive food, and the other person gets something cheap. Better to split the bill by each paying for what they got, rather than 50/50.
yep. I'm a girl and I was getting ready to agree w the vampire's answer to the first tiktok (I think its unfair that the guy is required to pay for the date), but as soon as he started talking I was like nvm 🥸
I think it can also depend on the place suggested. If one person really can’t afford what the other person is suggesting, the if the suggester insists they should pay
It's things like this that make me glad for my dating experiences. I've always thought if they say want to treat you, let them pay. If you want to treat them, say so! And if neither of you say anything about treating the other? Bring your wallet and pay for what you ordered. It wasn't until the Internet that I realised this isn't how everyone does this
No. 2 is definitely way more fair. I don't like number 1 bc it's a relationship and that is comprised of 2 people. I do hate this red pill crap, I think these guys are just bitter defects.
a great rule of thumb is that if a man has to hide behind an animated anime vampire, he’s probably wrong about whatever he’s speaking on
I was looking for this comment. At least the other hate mongers have the guts to show their faces so people can choose to avoid them irl.
unless if showing his face will ruin his life, because of "misogyny"
adding this to my “golden rules” list 😂❤️
@@mistercoder1583 huh wonder why it would “ruin” his life 🧐
@@mistercoder1583 The worst punishment that he can have is people who he would not want to talk to avoid him
As a woman it's terrifying knowing so many men are out there with this ideology and hatred, it's stamped all over my social media. Walking the streets is so scary, and it shouldn't be. These attitudes against women should not still be a thing. Thank you for bringing a logical argument to this
It further feeds into what Margaret Atwood said "Men are afraid that women will laugh at them. Women are afraid that men will kill them."
They literally hate women
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As one of the 7 men in Dylan's fanbase I'll say it's just a loud minority (Wait! Im African I can say that!) of men at large. The rest of us are just as confused and amused...Conmused? As Dylan here.
@@s.m2895 😂, I guess I'm one of the 7. I just challenge the people close to me when I hear them say something weird. Arguing on the internet is pointless.
I’m with Loris, whichever person asked the other out should pay
As a petite woman(I’m 4’8 and 19 years old) it’s extremely scary to know that there are men that just hate us. I live in constant cautious fear. I love that Dylan calls this stuff out because it needs to be addressed!
I mean fear is sensible, the world is a dangerous place, you should be cautious. Luckily these people aren't generally good at hiding it so you can realise just by talking.
The actually dangerous people are the ones you don't suspect, the Ted Bundy types who appear normal and can keep it all hidden until they are alone with you...
Also invest in some self defense classes and be very serious about it.
@@HadassaMoon144 I really need to! Because I’m so small
I feel this
@@Hannahsreadingcorner aye 😂I'm 5'1 and 19 😂
Dylan is absolutely passable as a cartoon vampire
That vampire guy’s brain is broken, you will never make sense of it. He has picked one narrative and only seeks out examples to support it. He is fully committed to keeping on blinders to anything else.
its sad truly, I dont know that there is any reformation that can happen when people are that deep and brain broken
Yep, it's called confirmation bias I think, where you perceive all new information in such a way that it confirms your pre-existing beliefs. Because you're subconsciously seeking to confirm those beliefs, you interpret the same information differently. Hence, even if there's a video of a woman agreeing with his ideas, because he already has a bias against women (for whatever reason) he will take it as that woman lying or trying to manipulate men etc as if she's some undercover spy lol and won't believe her or agree with what she says
First time commenting, long-time viewer: thank GOD for men like Dylan. Whenever I see folks on twitter shitting on him it's always over the most inane things, and I'm always thinking how they have no idea what's actually bad. Same thing when he's "controversial" when he's just pointing out ideas and viewpoints no one notices or no one wants to say out loud, which I appreciate it. I've seen these red pill idiots and as a woman, it's annoying at best and disturbing at worst. Dylan's perspective and decency is _really_ gratifying, and it's a relief to subscribe to someone that has a good head on his shoulders. Not to mention, he's hilarious! So that answers the question of "do you want someone funny?" YES. I'm a serious person and I'd bang my head into a wall if I found my date not funny. And on who should pay for the first date: I'm a lesbian, so it depends on whether my girlfriend wants to or me or we split. lol
can I say it's SO funny that this guy chose a VAMPIRE avatar, whilst spreading his toxic masculine discourse, knowing GOD DAMN WELL that lot of girl grew up with watpad-type vampire fantasy. very pick me vibe in its own twisted particular way.
NO cause it’s killing me how this piece of shit is using such an attractive avatar😭
It's honestly so reassuring to see a man NOT hate women. It seems like that's all there is on social media right now, which obviously doesn't reflect true reality, but still is incredibly ridiculous to have to deal with. People like Tate and this vampire are too dumb to have these platforms, yet their ego stroking garners an audience - well, an echo chamber. Looking forward to your "red pill" analysis video 👍
honestly. TH-cam has become a cesspool for these type of obnoxious dudes who keep popping up ever so often like a recurring trend. They follow new conservative influencers because the old ones like milo yiannopoulos got taken down for pedophilia comments and other scandals. And these new rage influencers soon will be taken down because their business model of raging at women or minorities is gonna slip up, say unacceptable things and get them in trouble one day. Then another rage influencer will take their place and the cycle repeats.
I mean u right but its the literally the same with women its literally been the norm to hate men for years. like ever girl i talk to even my own friends say things like "men are trash" "i hate men" there are songs about how much they hate men and ever girl is like YASS or QUEEN its even in kids movies the iconic "ugh men. 🙄😒" now look im not tryna defend a side just stating a point that people hating and stereotyping both men and women and it needs to stop.
@@jejeamaris8186 I agree that generalising the genders is bad. However the world we live in today, they aren't the same. the difference is that if a woman says she hates men it's just usually her being annoying and no one takes her seriously cos people see it as light banter. Meanwhile if a guy opening goes around saying "I hate women" we have no way of knowing whether it's just a guy suffering from a normal heartbreak or an incel mass murderer like Elliot Rodgers or Jake Davison. There's clearly something more concerning with the women hating crowd than those who go "Yaaasss Queen" (I think the "I hate men" phase is long over already) and that's why it's so concerning with the rise of these influencers who blatantly tell their male audiences these warped views.
@@jejeamaris8186 women and even really young girls are by and large the predominant victims of sexual crimes perpetrated by straight men. It's a statistical FACT. You cannot argue this at all, no matter how it irks you. Is it unfortunate for the men who are actually decent human beings? Of course it is. I've had interactions with both good men AND absolute trash, and I have to say there is not one single woman I've met that hasn't gone through some kind of sexual harassment from men. Including me. Doesn't mean I'm gonna overlook the good guys. It's not women who are at fault here. It's THOSE HORRID MEN who give good guys a bad rep. Go deal with them.
I really don't get why all these men whined over something they never had. They obviously had no girlfriends, no wife, and no huge income to be taken advantage of. All these drama, pls go marry your dudes instead
Dylan is so funny. He should write a book
He definitely should. I think he would really excel in YA fiction. Just a guess though
He should definitely take the rest of his life to write it though to make sure it's really good, just a thought
@@rachelheck2084 and also promote it for the rest of his life
That's a sensitive theme here
That clip of Dylan with the robot body took me out
The best part of this video is when Dylan takes the moments where he's mocking the incel dude by saying what he would probably think and puts "Clip This!". Like he knows haters will take it out of context so he provides them the timestamps like a petty bitch. I'm obsessed
In my culture, if you invite someone to go somewhere, it's kind of expected that you intend to pay for the outing, whether it's date, a friend, or a family member. It's not as hard and fast a rule as it used to be, but it's still considered the polite thing to do.
This just shows how sexism and just general toxic gender standards are far from being abolished in this day and age. By the way, that hammer, spatula joke absolutely killed me, am I the only one?
Lol I'm sick rn(not covid thankfully) and i started coughing so loudly because of that
to be fair, i know more man-hating women than women-hating men. though that might be because i'm a woman and those guys would be too scared to interact with me lol
Hey Dylan, thank you for being a great person and taking time and effort to call this stuff out. As a woman, it’s actually incredibly terrifying that these communities exist and such hatred is out there for us. We live our lives with the constant undercurrent of the possibility of violence against us. But it makes me feel genuinely heartened to hear how strong an ally you are, calling bullshit on this stuff and trying to make the world better. Thank you!
But millions of women can say I hate all men😂
Totally agreed🙏🏼
Exactly! We’ve been living in a world we’re we are seen as objects, things that can be used and disposes off (not saying that it’s everyone experiencing or that there aren’t people who value us as humans and respect us as such). When we don’t play their parts or even if we do they harass us, beat us, and violate us. Then we are blamed and punish for it. We are sexually exploited and unvalued. I’m sure this is not everyone’s experience but for some it is. We are shackled by family/society expectations, religion and sometimes cultures. I thought women rights was making things more equal or giving us a foot in, but as the years progress I’m finding our rights being diminished and now we have channels and communities bringing more hate toward us and it makes me terrified, not just for me but for my girls. It’s a relief that we see People like Dylan who is supporting us in this way, using his platform to educate. Which says a lot because I came for the laughs and to escape. But I’m glad he created this channel to talk about some topics and even though some are serious, I like that he brings humor to the table and still get his message across
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It's all based on the understanding of the transactional nature of life.
If women bring looks and men bring money, then women eventually lose value over time and if women get jobs men lose value to women.
Ultimately they chose to see it as something kind of struggle, men vs women.
“i don’t see the appeal in jokes” is probably the strangest sentence i’ve ever heard
Absolutely love Dylan's ability to laugh. The source he talks about in this video is absolutely ludicrous and if I were forced to take it seriously I would find it depressing and offensive. However, Dylan's humor makes it an ejoyable video that can still address the problems within this community. I've seen a lot of commentary channels that only focus on negativity and nothing is better than the way Dylan can both make his viewers laugh and genuinely think. Great video, Dylan. Can't wait for your big thesis.
The sheer irony that he's shitting on a comment posted by women even though she's paraphrasing something a man originally said 😂
My 5’2” husband hooked me solely based on the fact that he makes me laugh more than anyone I’ve ever met without even trying.
Same here! My fiance is 5'4" too.
We love short, funny kings!
We love short, funny kings!
We love short, funny kings!
11:13 "THEY MIGHT NOT HAVE HUMOR IN TRANSYLVANIA" DYLAN YOU'RE KILLING ME
as a bi women i alway think the person who asked the other out should pay for it. so yeah if you ask a girl out to dinner you should pay and if you ask a guy out to dinner you should pay. splitting the bill also always works tho!
Only on the first dates but I agree with the suggestion idea but after that I think splitting the bills the best idea by far because it takes two people to work the relationship and both people agree to go on a date so therefore it only logically make sense to split the bill
As an Australian, I'm very embarrassed that this appears to be an Australian cartoon vampire. I deeply apologise on behalf of my country.
Is a new South African?
@@hopesy12u4 What??
Yeah I was dying too. I wish it was like Survivor where we could vote people off the island.
As a woman, I don't expect a man to pay for the date unless he's specifically told me he would like to. I'll happily pay half every time.
I kind of roll with the rule of thumb being whoever chooses the venue should be prepared to pay, but the other person should always offer to pay half out of basic courtesy.
Also, love the content. Always fun & entertaining!
“A guy being funny is basically non-existent”. Well, folks, you heard it here. I guess my being told I was super funny by girls when I was a kid was just a big lie, cause it’s scientifically proven, thanks to Taylor the Fiend over here, that men cannot be funny
Every time Dylan says "the vampire is going to explain xyz" I cackle because of how ridiculous that shit is. A 2D or 3D vampire ranting about how much he hates women...we truly are in the end times
Just yesterday I was wondering “when will Dylan be back?” because I have basically binge-watched your old videos for the last 2 weeks, and boom, new Ooga Booga video, God bless. Your content brings me so much joy, I swear I never get enough of it. Love you!
Same
Same I watched all the disney reactions again
Same I’ve just binged watched love island game series😭🙌🏻
same 😭 earlier this morning i was wondering “when will dylan make another video?” and boom another video
yeah me too i really need a another movie commentary
Bro sense of humor is so important in any relationship platonic or not... having the same sense of humor as someone gives you something in common that is so easy to bond over because jokes can be made about anything and everything.
Totally
well, that guy just wants his non-existing future wife to cook, clean and have babys, so they won't have time to laugh. he must be such a sad person, i almost feel bad for him. The literal best part about my relationship with my boyfrien is that we have so much fun and inside jokes
@@gisela_oliveira yep. I wonder what his childhood was like... did he ever laugh as a kid and just stopped one day or did he always find fun pointless and a waste of time?
I think I read somewhere once that laughter is literally good for you and can even extend your life. this vampire dude is looking at a few more lonely and sad years if he never finds joy in laughter
@@cynthia.c Agreed
If he hates jokes oooooh he's gonna love your video 🤣🤣🤣
Wow he could not be MORE wrong about women not liking funny guys 😂 almost every single woman I know has stated at least once that if a man can *genuinely* make her laugh, he instantly becomes 10X more attractive in her eyes (myself included). It's 100% true for most women lmfao
Right, I always find it hilarious when a man makes bold claims on what women want. Like okay my guy. 🙄
Personally I think splitting the bill on any date is fair if you’re two grown adults and not babies but I also saw someone make the point that in along term relationship how much each person pays on dates should depend on what they earn ie can afford to pay, if one partner makes two times more then the other then splitting everything 50/50 isn’t a fair split which I agree with.
My mind still boggles that these red pill types are actually real people that exist and don’t get how brainwashed they are by the standardised toxic masculinity in society, like guys toxic masculinity is bad for you too
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yup, the only date I've been on i was pro-split the bill but he wanted to pay. most of the time, guys insist on paying for everything anyway.
@@milannoelle1576 a lot of guys do because it is what they have been told they have to do for decades and if they want to it’s fine as long as the thought behind it is something like I like this girl , it’s a nice time I want to pay for it and not if I pay for this date then she owes me or I have now bought her body or some shit
It's an individual thing. You're setting up the dynamic for your relationship in a lot of ways when you choose to pay for the other person.
There's a *slight* bit of dominance going on, which sounds off-putting, but that's how all relationships are. Friendly _or_ romantic. It isn't always a bad thing.
But for people who don't give a shit about gender roles, especially when gender itself is non-traditional (homosexual relationships), it's pretty meaningless. Just work it out with the person you're on a date with.
I mean hell, the whole notion of going out to eat for a first date is stupid to me. Hang out with them. Watch a movie at your place or something. Going out "properly" is so old-fashioned. If you really want it, I mean go for it, but that also sets the tone for the whole relationship as much as paying for the the other person's meal does.
It's just not as simple as "men should always pay" or "men should never pay". It always depends on the person you're with and who you are as a person.
If you ask me out and you pay that's cool also just take me somewhere affordable why are you spending a bunch of money on a first date where you don't know what the outcome will be?
MY GOD. That clip where he's berating Loris for suggesting that whoever initiated the date should pay is insufferable. Comparing her statement to eating out with friends. It's specifically about dating dude, stick to the subject. He goes on these dumbass tangents to try and make a point while straying away from the point lmao.
Also yes, women will put attractive over funniness, initially, since being attracted to someone is the first frigging step in dating someone and being with someone. That isn't exclusive to just women, everyone does it. But once you've gotten to know that person, being funny is a stand out trait that will make majority of us like you more and want to be with you longer. If you're boring and serious all the time we don't want you. Who wants to be in a boring, laughless relationship where everyone is serious all the time?
Probably why the vampire guy is single lmao.
mr vampire is is 1000% single. he legit needs to seek therapy cause I cannot imagine being so insufferable and then blame all women for the reason no one wants to date you.
@@cynthia.c 100% that man needs therapy. Having that toxic mindset is not good for anyone. I have seen too many killers with his mindset. But he probably thinks therapy is for the weak, and a strong and an Immortal being like him don’t need it.
Honestly, I often find men attractive that would otherwise not be my type JUST because they are funny and/or charismatic.
Also, I searched him up and Loris is a man
@@cynthia.c Would you say the same thing about women crying about men being bad when they picked the bad one's
There was a guy in my communications class that was like this guy. It’s honestly a bit terrifying because these are the kind of guys that will assault a woman and think they have the right to.
I cracked up with that ha ha ha part. I don't know why it got me but like seriously, how do you explain laughter
Dylan's videos popping up never fails to bring a smile to my face. You've helped me through some shit, thank you Dylan, sincerely.
i know he wasnt on hiatus but it feels like he was, glad he's back anyway.
true 😭
I would bet money that he definitely tells people that he's a "nice guy" 😂😂😂
Bringing up how our society atm generally NEEDS a two-person income stream is a perfect talking point for the whole "first date" debate. It's a red flag if either side wants the other to pay in full. In this economy?? 😂
My mom always told me that however invites the person on a date, pays for the meal. No matter the gender. I think she has a point but I always just pay for my things :)
Good policy. Even when it comes to hanging out with friends. Like, yesterday, I invited my friend to see Nope with me, so I paid for our tickets and concessions
^whoever
Same. Whenever I hang out with friends, I always split the bill. If I buy something more expensive than others, I pay for my extra shit. It's also a good idea if you have a system of paying alternatively each time you hang out
this! and if it's a repeating occurrence, i'll bring up alternating the pay!
Definitely works well if you're attracted to the same gender or are bi.
I love a handsome man shutting down misogyny. We appreciate you ❤
the way I screamed when this fuckin man didn’t understand that that one tiktok was a joke 😭
Dylan: "They may not have humor in Transylvania."
I'm dead 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The fact that he's using an avatar instead of showing his face tells me all I need to know about this joker.
Honestly, all these incels having a platform where they can reach thousands of young people is extremely scary. Sadly, it seems like being a decent human being is something extraordinary for a lot of these men and not just the bare minimum. Thanks, Dylan, it is very heartwarming to know there are still decent men like you out there.
It's definitely alarming 😩
"Honestly, all these people having a platform where they can reach thousands of people is extremely scary." fixed it for you.
@@MrHale Don't worry. I'm pretty sure I used the right term. Thanks anyway.
@@MrHale nope she definitely meant to say incels..
@@cynthia.c No I'm 100% sure it is people who is ruining the world. Not only incels.
"I don't see the appeal in jokes" funny because you are one Mr Vampire
I've been with my husband for 20 years and he constantly makes me laugh, from the very first moment we met 💚💙
to me, it's fairer to split the bill on most dates and if the relationship develops I actually think it's nice to just treat them to dinner or something every now and then, or them doing the same for me cause I don't think it has anything to do with gender, it's just a nice little gesture to show appreciation.
also, there actually are a lot of male vtubers who are genuinely funny and super chill so please don't lump them in together with this guy!
While I agree for the 1st date or first cpl dates splitting the bill makes sense. Bt in a relationship constantly splitting everything is tiring and can make the relationship feel more like a friendship. In a relationship whoever wants to cover the date should cover the date. Esp if you live together and you're building a life together financially.
@@seroquelz yeah! I agree, if you're at the point of living together then sure you can come to an agreement on financial matters but, if it's just a casual relationship or it's still the beginning I think splitting is fine or even taking turns or something.
@@Athenaisaweirdo yup, exactly! It rly shouldn't be that hard or this heated debate ppl are turning it into.
I also think it's quite ridiculous that these incel type guys just seem to forget that gay people exist and that there is no issue at all with paying for dates and stuff. For them hetero is the default and anything beyond that is just not comprehensible at all
I agree with you btw i just makes sense splitting the bill especially if you don't know the other person that well
i've never hated a vampire this much before 😭 ((also thank u dylan for always coming through with the content, love u x))
7:19 it's the fact that loris was quoting a 50 cent, who is male. And was talking to a male interviewer who agreed with him.
A sense of humor is a sign of intellect
Woman: gives her *opinion* on how she feels *her* relationship balance would be.
Vamp: "YeAh so this is nOt tRuE"
wow as a woman I learnt so much about myself thanks to this vampire : I don't bring anything to the table, I hate funny guys, I don't want to do manual labor and obviously I don't care about good values 🙃🙃
what luck there are good salt of the earth guys like him out there to let us little women know what we want and need. alas, how else will we ever know?
"They might not have humor in Transylvania..." As a Transylvanian, we don't claim him.
hearing Dylan say “uwu” has completed my life in a way I didn’t know I needed
God, I don't think I will be able to finish this video. Not because of Dylan, of course, he is good. It's just the things that Vampire is saying is making my blood boil. But I'll maybe sit through it for Dylan. He worked hard on this video, deserves the views.
I can’t even get pass the vampire voice, yet alone pay enough attention to what he’s saying. It sounds nasaly, stuffed, and sick even if what he was saying was reasonable- I mean it’s not but even on the very small silver lining it was, even if he said something as plain and simple as “the sky is blue”, the voice just makes me want to stab my ear drums.
For the first date, whoever asked pays, although I personally would make a move to pay for my food, after it becomes a regular thing, or you're a couple you should be confident enough to switch it up, "damn I didn't get paid this week Babe can you cover and I get the next?", you can split sometimes, or take turns.
That makes perfect sense
I forget how much I love Dylan’s videos until he posts a new one because it’s always good content!
That vampire dude is talking a lot about his friends while I'm just sitting here surprised that he has any...
I'm old-fashioned and think men should pay for dates, but Loris's comment is good. If a man asks a woman on a date, it's not crazy to think he'd pay. The thing about friends is a total false equivalency. In some cultures it's normal to pay for friends, but in America it's very common for friends to each pay for themselves. That's completely different from a date.
true
It’s fair but considering 9 times out of 10 it’s men asking for dates because women don’t need to or want to is kinda a good counter point to that point😂
especially in the south east, paying for friends is pretty common and each one takes the bill a diff time
@@austinlarrimore6542 It's a symptom of the same gender role expectation to be fair. Men are expected to be more assertive and chivalrous by asking, women are expected to be demure and "sought after" and therefore wait to be asked. It doesn't help that assertiveness in women can also be looked down on too.
@@austinlarrimore6542 how is it a good counter if it’s over-generalized, groundless statistics?
Here I am trying to laugh but instead literally getting chills down my spine realising the fact that such dedicated communities exist. Thank you Dylan for everything you do. All things aside, you are an absolutely amazing human being (maybe humor has something to do with it Idk 😝).
What is the community name ?
@@salliejones6002 Incels lmao
Yep him and people like Tate are helping breed the next generation of women hating incels.
Thank you for continuing to be there for us Dylan! These men are honestly so scary
Dylan, you're a gem. Thank you for this. These sorts of videos are so mind numbing. Thank you thank you thank you!
I WAS LITERALLY JUST THINKING WHERE DYLAN IS I HAVE MISSED HIM
he's in our heads. posts right on time when we miss him
The way he was hyper analyzing a comedy video💀💀
"They might not have humor in Transylvania" 😂
The fact that he has to use his friends as an example for everything, just shows how he’s got 0 bitches
Not only does laughter build bonds between people but it also releases endorphins similar to when you workout or have sex. Those endorphins not only make you more relaxed but have been shown to reduce physical pain and increase your immune system. Who wouldn’t find that attractive and desire it in a partner?
I thought this man died I'm so happy he's still alive 😭
Thank god I'm not the only one 😭😭😭, I was really scared and was checking on everywhere to just know If he is Fine.. I was so happy to see that he posted 💜💜
Note to Taylor: if you’re so frustrated with dating, just don’t do it (if you ever have). Focus on bettering yourself, maybe seek therapy. Sort through why you resent women so much and make a plan to change that and act on it. And don’t focus on finding someone, just focus on your life and career goals, and be open to just making new friends and trying new things. See what happens. However it happens, meeting someone special always happens when it’s least expected, whether that’s thru friends, as friends, or you meet someone out and about and just start dating from there, or on a dating app. Just don’t be misogynistic, too. That’s like ninety nine percent of the battle when it comes to making it remotely possible to get a girlfriend, or least get a date with a woman
This video made me laugh so much Dylan thank you so much for brightening up my day
Dylan was so invested in this that he didn’t even have time to “forget” to put on his nose ring
The way i cant remember you wearing that outfit before?? GUESS DYLAN FINALLY DID SOME SHOPPING
My personal rule for first dates is I always split, I pay for what I ordered. Unless they offer to pay, then I'll gladly accept. When I'm in a relationship I generally split as well, but I will try to keep it fairly equal and pay for their meals, some random gifts, just to show I respect my partner as an equal. It also can depend on who is making more money, and I'm honest about when I have some money I can spend and when I'm stressed about it and would rather do an activity that doesn't require money.
I'm straight but the whole binary concept of giving men and women certain rules and roles for dates is so much of an ick for me. It makes dating seem like a challenge or conquest that takes away from the fact you're supposed to be meeting people you think you'd enjoy, it creates so much pressure for something that DOES NOT have to be this complicated with communication and self awareness. If we're talking about the bill conversation, I think you should always at least be prepared to pay for yourself. The rest, once again, comes with communication.
A NEW SHIRT?!! guys dylan’s improving
Paying for dates are somehow an act of kindness. You don't have to do that but it's nice and considerate to do so, no matter what your gender is...
Exactly. No matter what u identify as, if you offer to pay, that shows me you care.
Dylans lil rant about what woman bring to the table made me so happy 😭 thank u
As a woman, I like splitting the bill or paying for everything myself because then I know it won't get used as some kind of emotional blackmail leverage to try to get me to do things I don't want to. If I could actually genuinely trust the other person, then if they invite me out and want to treat me, it's like, "Okay cool that's nice." But honestly that would be something I'd be more comfortable with if we already knew we wanted to date a bit, that way I could treat them on the next date and pay them back. So yeah idk I guess I don't like having someone pay for me
I think if he’s pursuing you, he pays. But once a relationship is established, whoever wants to pay pays. Lois was right tho 😭
I agree my husband payed for all meals when we were dating, as we were together for longer we kid of just naturally split bills. Now he pays for the four walls and I pay for the rest ( ie vacations, dance class for our kids, dr bills)!
"My brain is going to melt out of my ears." 😂😂
they act like this then wonder why they are single lol
Good job Dylan!
I didn’t forget your nose ring.