Ye .. But how does it handle a headset like hd58x? 🤔🤷♂️ It raised more questions then it did answering the ones I had to start with .. But I guess no one can actually be bothered to review this product 🙄
Schiit is a fantastic company. I have the Magni and Modi and the quality is absolutely great. No matter what product you are getting, you are purchasing quality.
So basically instead of directly plugging your headset into the computer you plug it into these audio interfaces to enhance your mic and overall game sound quality?
Hey Dimitri. Thanks for making these videos. I didn't go with the Fulla 3 instead I choose to go for the Sound Blaster 3x because of the surround sound features. Your reviews are extremely helpful though. The nuance you bring to the conversation through your easy to follow comparisons really make me sure I am choosing the right product for me.
@@Hectorscarclub13 I did look I to those. The one downside I see is the mic is not detachable, where I like to use the headset outside of playin games with the bro's.
I'm 6 months in with my Schiit Stack (Modi 3 & Magni 3) hooked up to my Sennheiser HD600 and it is a dream. For best surround sound I just use Dolby Atmos Headphones software and it's insane. I've never experienced better audio not just for gaming but music and movies and everything.
Considering what I am using for my audio set up at this time anything that'll help with audio quality is a plus. Good showcase of this tech sir. I was very entertained. (:
I got a Fulla 3 and Hifiman HE4XX about four months ago and I love them both. I don't have an external microphone yet but I chose the Fulla over many other options because of its small footprint, low price, and headphone + mic ports. It has more than enough power to make the HE4XX's as loud as I could ever want, but if you have higher impedance cans (>250 Ohms or so) I'd look into if you need the Hel or something with a bit more oomph. One of my favorite features of the Fulla is the rear audio output that automatically turns off when you plug something into the front output. Originally, I kept my speakers plugged into the back so I could use them or plug in headphones if I wanted, but I moved my speakers across the room so lately I've been keeping my HE4XX's plugged into the back so I can switch between them and my Tin T2 IEMs for playing games and working on music, respectively. Let me tell you - the T2s paired with the Fulla 3 sounds SO clear and detailed, it's absolutely incredible. Overall, if your budget is around $100 and you want a DAC/amp that'll run any entry- or mid-level headphones, put these on your list to consider - especially if you have or plan on using a microphone. Side note- if you see the HE4XX's for less than $150 and you can afford it, get them. Get them right away. They're very tight in the low end and detailed, with good separation. Plus they're very comfortable, even with chunky glasses over many hours. For the price, they're too good not to have in your collection. (Same for the T2s, for that matter).
I've been on Reddit looking at stuff like this for the last couple hours and was recommended a video you made back in 2016, then see you posted and boom you answered my questions thank you
@@1117Jrod hey man. I actually went with the PC37X w/ no amp/dac. Reason being is that this what I could afford at the time and I don't think I needed anything more than that. In terms of Tarkov though, it's great. Not sure if if I can compare since I gave away my old Cloud Core before playing Tarkov.
@@ThatAnonymousGuy234 that’s awesome man Congrats. Decided to go 38x with a amp/dac. But only cuz I had more in my budget and figured I could benefit later down the road if need be. Thanks bud! See you in Tarkov!
I'm glad to see you finally getting your Schitt together. 😂😂😂 But seriously. I love Schitt's products. I have the Magni 3 and Modi 3 driving my Sennheiser Game One headset. My mic is going straight into the motherboard. Fantastic sound quality. Once I got my Schitt setup I re-listened to a significant portion of my music library just to hear the difference. And it was glorious.
Honestly, using the Sennheiser PC37X mic is not the best representation of what the Schiit Fulla 3 or Schiit Hel offers when it comes to mic quality. Seems like this was more biased for selling purposes. I love the PC37X but V-Moda Boom Pro mic and the ModMic 5 probably have way better mic quality compared to the PC37X mic. Look up other reviews where they utilize these mics and they sound so much better. Also, I am not sure but Dimitri probably didn't check the bit rate settings for the mic input in windows audio settings. I have read that sometimes some hardware won't default to the best bit rate it can handle and might be set to a lower bit rate, thus not giving you the best quality you can get. I'm surprised he hasn't reviewed the Mayflower Ark Mk2 yet since its a competitor to the Schiit Hel.
Arctis 7 with the Asus DGX with the uni xonar drivers and PEACE equalizer are what I've been using for years now. Dolby Headphone via Dolby Digital Live is just hands down hard to beat, even compared to Atmos. The surround sound and audio positioning is just stellar.
I am using Schiit fulla 3 with sennheiser GSP 600 and I can confirm in Valorant I can hear footstep audio incredibly precisely, much moreso than with my astro a40's. Also the mic quality is insane
The timing of this video is amazing. I was just looking at old forum posts about the Schiit Fulla 2 and searched for reviews and saw there was a Fulla 3 and this popped up
This! I've been using the Magni 3 with my DT990 since a while now, coming from onboard audio it was somewhat of a revelation... although their delivery times here in the EU suck :D
Thank you for the really good overview and review. I agree with your conclusions. For gaming, it's Sennheiser HPs and their microphones FTW. Amp-wise the Schiit Hel is bomb, they've nailed it with a very nice solution that will work great for many, many users. Love the no-hassle, no-drivers-required approach, and the external mic volume control is fantastic for in-game adjustment on the fly. The sound quality and value of the 37x and Hel combo is nearly unbeatable for the $$ right now!
0:10 you and many techtubers have covered creative without talking about their horrendous aftercare and planned obsolescence. Many soundblaster z owners like have completely lost encoders options for like a year and many issues we had with the sbz have carried over to newer product lines like audio skipping and jumbled 5.1 speaker sound(center coming out of random speakers etc). They deleted their forums because of all the issues and their subreddit is beyond a joke. When the issue happened they created a diagnostic tool to gather info they got like 50 from the subreddit and then ignored the reports and came out with a new tool like 6+ months later and of course people moved on to newer solutions and had to ditch their sgz.
I can confirm that, got a broken Soundblaster Z as well which changed the 5.1 speaker outputs randomly and the software just didn't work at all most of the time. No product from Creative for me any time soon.
This has happened for most of Creatives existence, they made good sounding products for glowing reviews but then never get the software right, never release driver updates when windows moved between major versions and designed products to die very quickly. I got some 4.1 speakers from them on which the bass unit (master of the others) died after a month, after a year of trying to get them repaired and sent back and several hundred pounds of phone calls (i could have bought multiple new sets) i got them returned, a second set arrived a week later. And then they both died after a month of use.
Sadly this is true. I use to own an SB Z a couple years ago and loved it, especially the ability to use optical out to my Schiit Modi and still be able to use their 5.1 virtual surround sound. but after they started releasing more new audio hardware, they neglected a lot of their other products, especially in the software side of things. My SB Z for some reason was giving me problems, from random pops to random audio settings changing, while Windows 10 was doing updates and Creative Labs not staying up to date with customer feedback, my SB Z was becoming useless every day. Creative Labs needs to get their Schiit together or else they are going to disappear against these other companies that seem to be doing much better.
I've got SHP9500 + V-Moda Boom Pro after you showed it and now I've got Sennheiser Game One because you showed it. Well done man, well done :-D Good that I'm still happy with SoundBlaster G3 and GSX1000 is a bit on an expensive side.
I'm trying not to fall down the rabbit hole of DACs and Amps. I've settled on the GSX myself just because I'm down with side tone and chat mix. Paired with the PC37x of course.
yeah, it's a dangerous, expensive road. This schiit stuff has good design with decent audio quality, so it'll act as a gateway drug once folks figure out that there are MUCH better dacs out there. Between Z-Reviews & the AudioScienceReview site, you can find yourself on a never-ending quest for something better. The trick is to find something that YOU think sounds good & be happy! (sigh.. says the guy on some HD660s' & an RME dac)
The Schiit stack setup seems to be more than capable for gaming, and its step up from the GSX1000, but I stopped using the GSX1000 after I started experimenting with higher bit and sample rate stereo, compared to the 7.1 function. The spacial sound from the 7.1 is impressive, but it takes a massive nosedive with the midrange becoming so muted its kinda shocking at first. Stereo at higher quality samplerate and bitrate sounds better to me, at the slight expense of the 7.1. I'm probably gonna sell the GSX1000 now, and retire my Sennheister GSP600's, coz I got the Hifiman Sundura's to go with the Schiit stack, and I'm not planning on upgrading again.
I'm rocking a Creative SoundBlaster G6 dac/amp and a pair of AKG K712 Pro and i absolutely love them for gaming. The 5.1 virtual surround on the G6 works amazingly on these stereo headphones (i can finally hear footsteps in Battlefield V). There's also a Direct Mode for music listening. Also the K712 are very very comfortable and light (230 grams) and together with the wide sound stage makes them one of the, if not the best headphones for gaming at only 180£. I'm playing Battlefield V for 6-7 hours straight and these heaphones never becomes uncomfortable.
LOL I got the Schiit Hell a week ago and its a beast XD and i'm very happy with it - specially with the fact its powerful in case i'll buy ( and i sure will) more decent headphone like DT 1990 Pro
Great timing for this video, i've been looking to upgrade my sound. Originally wanted to buy new head phones, but my Sennheiser Game Zero Gaming Headsets still work just fine and im happy with the sound. Getting a good dac/amp is probably more important at this stage.
I watched your pc37x review a couple weeks ago and decided to buy them going off of it. They still haven’t come in, but I’m glad to know you’re still choosing them today.
@@It7xc ive kept my fulla 2. the only other thing I bought since then was an Audioquest dragon fly red just so I can use these headphones with a laptop more easily. the great thing about hd58x is that it doesn't require too much to get good sound stage which is nice
Got a Fulla 3 a few months back. Mic port died almost immediately. Exchanged it for another. Mic port worked for about 1 minute before dying. The first Fulla I was sent had a clean volume dial when changing volume. The second Fulla I was sent has a scratchy volume knob. Disappointed, but the amp is stellar. I now use it with a Scarlett Solo. So, your mileage may vary.
I literally upgraded my setup to some of the stuff in this video a month ago. A Fulla Schiit 3 and Beyerdynamics MX 300 v2 headphones with sheepskin leather Detoni ear pads. Such a great working from home investment.
I bought my partner a Fulla 3, but I myself have had a Schiit Magni + Modi MultiBit stack in the past but have since switched back to my Grace Design M9XX. I prefer the M9XX because it's powerful enough to get decent volume even on inefficient planars like my Argon Mk3s, but has such a low noise floor that even the most sensitive IEMs are completely silent. I also like that there are 200 separate volume levels so you can get that perfect volume control as well as has crossfeed which is a nice bonus for those over-exaggerated stereo recordings like some old Beatles' track for example.
Do you use a mic at all? If so, what was your solution for that? I'm looking at getting either a Magni/Modi or a Hel, but I'm pretty much always on Discord, even in single player games.
@@kevinobrien1026 I just use a blue snowball (usb mic) that cost me about $30 on Amazon and a cheap mic stand that was about $10 to keep it mounted right in front of my mouth, then I just run the usb cable along the stand and plug it into the usb hub built into my monitor, but something like a modmic uni would work well too if you can find a way to run the cable to the back of your computer
You can get surround sound, the same kind utilized by the GSX 1000, or any other surround sound device for that matter if you install Equalizer APO to ANY sound device, and install HeSuVi. I am currently running HeSuVi on a Khadas Tone Board in a mode that replicates the sound I got from my old Dolby Headphone adapter. So you can even add simulated surround sound to a Fulla 3.
I have a simple Steel Series Arctic 5 usb headset and the sound quality and mic are superb for gaming and even use it for my business calls and meetings.
My current gaming setup: Headphones: Sennheiser HD660s DAC/Amp iFi Nano BL If I ever need a mic, I just plug in my headphones through my Scarlett 2i2 and use my Electrovoice RE20. The mic setup is overkill so I'll check out something like the Schiit Hel and probably a smaller mic.
I got GSX 1000 and just paired it with a pretty simple yet powerful SMSL sAp II Pro amplifier and now I still have that amazing 7.1 whenever I want, but volume/power problems are gone :) I am using HD 58X as well
Hey, I hope someone sees this .. I been trying to find the perfect headphone for gaming but I have no idea about audio. So what do you guys recommend me, this Schiit Amp and PC37x or the logitech g935 ? Which one am I going to get better surround sound and cleaner audio to spot enemies in corners and that kind of stuff. Thanks a lot
I would recommend the PC37x. I have the game one but the 37x is just a rebrand so its the same thing. Very comfortable and really good sound quality. I love everything about it. The only minor downside that I haven't really seen many people talk about is the fact that sometimes since the headset is open back the audio coming from the headphones can leak into the mic. But besides that I wholeheartedly recommend it.
Stereo audio gives better positioning in games than any virtual surround technology. Surround is nice in some single player games or movies though. Go with the PC37x or similar quality stereo headset(CM MH751/2 maybe?) and if you find the audio lacking, you can then get into dacs/amps.
I am in a similar boat, I am wanting to go for the sennheiser HD6xx and a mod-mic wireless, after my research I think that's a good combo I will be going for in the near future, coming off the hyper x cloud.
Thank you sooo much for your help guys, i will go with Schiit and PC37x. I hope the money is well spent. Again thanks a lot and yall have a great day and stay safe from covid
Wow, I have very similar setups! I have a magni 3 connected the gsx1000 to driver headphones and preamp the speakers. Fantastic results as the virtual surround even work with my speakers. This is great for anything really. But I use my Audeze Mobius/hyperx Orbit S more often as it can be quickly disconnected to turn into the Bluetooth mode for convenience, which can’t be said about almost every other gaming headphones. And finally I have fulla-like fav/amp, the iDSD nano bl for music on my laptop. What I learned is that if you want an all in one solution, get an Audeze Mobius/HyperX orbit S and you are done! Great sound, insane versatility, amazing techs, and convenience. Nothing comes closein terms of tech packages it offers.
Headphones first. Unless you have clear problems with current audio source going for new/discrete AMP and/or DAC isn't worth it/going to change anything. If you're not happy with sound invest into new headphones.
if you end up with some powerhungry headphones you are fine, if you get let's say AKG K702 which are hard to power get also FiiO A5, but keep Omni 5.1, microphone quality is best you can get basically because it have 2 additional microphones built-in to leave the noise out, especially if you have loud mechanical keyboard
The Schitt Fulla 3 is really loud but that's probably a good thing considering many headsets mics don't have a high output. It's a little treble heavy but Equalizer APO + a VST plugin would fix that easily.
"I've always tried to stay clear of bad audio products" *makes videos on Logitech and Razer speakers* Those don't go together. Logitechs are known as being the worst speakers out there, and Razers aren't any better.
@@TalesOfWar If the manufacturer of your speakers or headphones also sells keyboards, don't be surprised if you get an earache! There are enough alternative: Teufel Concept C or even Kanto YU4
As a current owner of the PC37x paired with a NZXT z370 mobo, I gotta say they just sound like there missing some details in sound as the highs aren't really there and the lows sound muddy to me possibly due to the fact there open back. My previous main headphones were the Bose Soundtrue around ear and to me they sound slightly better when it comes to all around sound. I do have all the listed drivers installed for the mobo from the mobo manufactures website. My mobo does have a 32 bit dac and I do have the 32 bit selected in windows sound settings. I can tell the mobo does produce a nice sound but another issue that I have came across is many people saying my mic is too quiet. My mic does appear to be at more of a normal level in discord though. I have my mic boosted as well but still appears to be quiet in many games. Other than all that I would recommend the PC37x's as they are very comfortable and do sound decent or possibly even better with some audio tweaking and research. Anyways thanks for whoever read this and have a good one.
For anyone that doesn't know anything about audio, what is the best headset+dac/amp combos I can get for the best sound experience . I will mainly be using for gaming
It depends on how much money you want to spend, do you want your headphones to be open or closed backs? what kind of sound profile do you like? And it goes on and on and on, you could easily own a 300 usd headset and not like the sound just because it doesn't have enough bass for you, or enough trebble, or you don't quite like the soundstage, or you feel like the imaging isn't quite as good as your other 200 usd pair of headphones
The best gaming headphones are the Beyerdynamic tygr 300 r or the mmx 300. Amp/dac depends on the features you want and budget. Schiit hel is a great choice for the money.
Can’t afford gaming DAC, so I used HeSuVi thru Equalizer APO to get better surround for my PC37X from my motherboard sound card. Games such as Modern Warfare can really use it because the default settings for headphone leaves a lot to be desired for audio positioning.
My Main setup uses a Schiit Jotunheim for my studio monitors and all my headphones, but I also have a Fulla 2 and love it. Since my laptop has a trash dac with a ton of noise in it, the balanced Dac and Amp circuits are great, that and the fact it supports full hi-res audio is a nice bonus. (Capable of 192Khz/32bit) Edit: forgot to mention my main headphones are Hifiman HE-4XX's and Sennheiser HD558's (got the Sennheiser's for 100$ off at frys randomly.)
I went with the Schitt Hel to go with my Audio-Technica M50x headphones and I'm very happy with the combo. Good clean audio without spending a fortune.
great video, I will get the HD 58X and pair them with an X3, I understand your point but that hardware gives me the exact broad characteristics I use as an eclectic music lover and gaming, I searched for combination of X3 with the mentioned Sennheiser in this video and every single person just love the mix
Been using the fulla2 with Sennheiser pc360s for a while now. Fulla3 is the same just with the mic input. I'd recommend it for most basic headphones. Schiit has basically every need covered at every price point.
Man I own the same thing. The dolby is great. The 7.1 sounds muffled though. Been using it since 2011 but I only owned a Hyper X CLoud v1 headphone so far. So I'm told by audiophiles that I'm wrong, and that they'd never believe me when I said the DGX with Dolby sounds better than the Fiio E10K.
@@zerotactix5739 Use HeSuvi for 7.1 instead (if you're using it for headphones). I've had this card for like 8 years and it's still the best sounding card for the price in my opinion. I've also tried various dacs and other audio equipment and heard nothing from them that warrants spending all that money in comparison to this card. It's just simply awesome.
So originally I set out to get a proper dac and I went through quite a few options at Best Buy as well as Amazon.... I ended up settling for something I was not expecting... The Corsair void elite pros wired headset... 7.1 surround sound is honestly quite impressive and any competitive game I've ever played I've always felt like I've had the edge on other players. The sound stage that it gives to all audio is impressive and I even like it so much that I tend to listen to my music in the 3D sound mode. I even find movies to be much more entertaining with this on. Shocked the hell out of me but they were quite cheap they sounded really good and I could pinpoint people's location by their footsteps better than I could with any other headset that I tried... Win-win for me
Great setup there. So far I'm using my Schiit Modi + Schiit Valhalla 2 for all purposes including gaming. Not using the microphone at all since I don't usually play online. And I think the mic with Hel sounded the best.
just bought the hd58x and the fulla 3. I haven't really tried a good pair of open back headphones or a dac/amp for that matter and im excited to see or rather hear how it sounds.
Schiit products are amazing, esp. price/performance. My Modi 3 & Magni 3+ combo is just amazing and I just recently overspent and got myself Denon AH-D7200, because I'm sucker for walnut wood grain (and they sound amazing as they should for the price as well of course).
This and the Mayflower Electronics ARC MK2 are the best of what's available for gamers looking for a perfect compliment to their HiFi headphones for gaming.
I use a surround sound system half the time, partially for media (movies/YT or music) and some games like RPGs and stuff, while i use headphones for FPS and atmospheric games. So something that can be used with a 5.1 setup or something multichannel at least is nice. Cant wait to upgrade my peripherals once i have a new monitor lol.
*Watches someone else play with their custom sound on my headphones processed through a TH-cam video*
Me: Wow he's right this thing slaps
To be faire that's the quality you'll hear if he was streaming on TH-cam or Twitch
This is the tesla of audio
More like this schiit slaps!
@@sarmadferoz1937 ayyyyyy
@@sarmadferoz1937 kekwah shigga fulliga
Dimitri: this amplifier and DAC is so perfect for my needs
Also Dimitri: this is fulla schiit
Holy Schiit the Fulla has come a long way from the first one...
It's TWO more than the original!
@@terbo2000 lmao
@@terbo2000 two?! That's almost as many as 3
Super impressed with the mic quality on the Fulla 3.
Ye .. But how does it handle a headset like hd58x? 🤔🤷♂️
It raised more questions then it did answering the ones I had to start with .. But I guess no one can actually be bothered to review this product 🙄
Schiit is a fantastic company. I have the Magni and Modi and the quality is absolutely great. No matter what product you are getting, you are purchasing quality.
What microphone do you use with ut Fulla 3?
Which do you prefer if you used the PC38X headset and play BR like Warzone or Warzone 2.0?
Squad asking me why my audio sounds so good
Me: DUDE I HAVE SCHIIT AUDIO
@Eemz 911 not until you schitt on them in game
you are wrong, SOO WRONG!
Dude, I have THE SHIIT audio. Just listen!
all of yall puns are SCHIIT xD
So basically instead of directly plugging your headset into the computer you plug it into these audio interfaces to enhance your mic and overall game sound quality?
@@ChicaneMedia yes exactly!
Hey Dimitri. Thanks for making these videos. I didn't go with the Fulla 3 instead I choose to go for the Sound Blaster 3x because of the surround sound features. Your reviews are extremely helpful though. The nuance you bring to the conversation through your easy to follow comparisons really make me sure I am choosing the right product for me.
Schiit Hel Mod Mic 4.0 Sennheiser HD6xx : amazing audio
I literally have that set up on order right now! I opped for the wireless mod mic. Can't wait for it to get here!
Then you should try the mmx 300 by bayerdynamics second gen and I’ll bet you my pc that you will never touch that hd6xx ever again!
Never touching modmic. Such a useless product.
Damn I have the Hd6xx and I’m thinking of getting the Schiit Hel.
@@Hectorscarclub13 I did look I to those. The one downside I see is the mic is not detachable, where I like to use the headset outside of playin games with the bro's.
Magni 3 and Modi 3. Been loving this combo and extremely hard to beat at their price points.
Thank you for showing me the Sound Blaster X3!
It's perfect for what I need it for and it completely flu under my reader.
6:27 What a gorgeous shot, loving the parallax with the Hel being slightly raised!!
The audio boost with the dial turn.... 🙌🙌🙌🙌👏👏👏👏👏 Love the little things Dimitri 🙌
I'm 6 months in with my Schiit Stack (Modi 3 & Magni 3) hooked up to my Sennheiser HD600 and it is a dream. For best surround sound I just use Dolby Atmos Headphones software and it's insane. I've never experienced better audio not just for gaming but music and movies and everything.
Considering what I am using for my audio set up at this time anything that'll help with audio quality is a plus. Good showcase of this tech sir. I was very entertained. (:
I got a Fulla 3 and Hifiman HE4XX about four months ago and I love them both. I don't have an external microphone yet but I chose the Fulla over many other options because of its small footprint, low price, and headphone + mic ports. It has more than enough power to make the HE4XX's as loud as I could ever want, but if you have higher impedance cans (>250 Ohms or so) I'd look into if you need the Hel or something with a bit more oomph. One of my favorite features of the Fulla is the rear audio output that automatically turns off when you plug something into the front output. Originally, I kept my speakers plugged into the back so I could use them or plug in headphones if I wanted, but I moved my speakers across the room so lately I've been keeping my HE4XX's plugged into the back so I can switch between them and my Tin T2 IEMs for playing games and working on music, respectively. Let me tell you - the T2s paired with the Fulla 3 sounds SO clear and detailed, it's absolutely incredible. Overall, if your budget is around $100 and you want a DAC/amp that'll run any entry- or mid-level headphones, put these on your list to consider - especially if you have or plan on using a microphone. Side note- if you see the HE4XX's for less than $150 and you can afford it, get them. Get them right away. They're very tight in the low end and detailed, with good separation. Plus they're very comfortable, even with chunky glasses over many hours. For the price, they're too good not to have in your collection. (Same for the T2s, for that matter).
I legit have 0 USB type C items, that aren't my phone charger.. So I quite appreciate that you were disappointed with no type C for this device.
I have 5 products that use usb C. Only two ports on my motherboard.
I've been on Reddit looking at stuff like this for the last couple hours and was recommended a video you made back in 2016, then see you posted and boom you answered my questions thank you
I see Tarkov I like.
Thanks for the review, man :) Pretty much narrowed my audio setup to the HD58x with either a Fulla 3 or Hel.
Did you decide to go with this setup and how do you like it with tarkov?
@@1117Jrod hey man. I actually went with the PC37X w/ no amp/dac. Reason being is that this what I could afford at the time and I don't think I needed anything more than that.
In terms of Tarkov though, it's great. Not sure if if I can compare since I gave away my old Cloud Core before playing Tarkov.
@@ThatAnonymousGuy234 that’s awesome man Congrats. Decided to go 38x with a amp/dac. But only cuz I had more in my budget and figured I could benefit later down the road if need be. Thanks bud! See you in Tarkov!
I'm glad to see you finally getting your Schitt together. 😂😂😂
But seriously. I love Schitt's products. I have the Magni 3 and Modi 3 driving my Sennheiser Game One headset. My mic is going straight into the motherboard. Fantastic sound quality. Once I got my Schitt setup I re-listened to a significant portion of my music library just to hear the difference. And it was glorious.
Honestly, using the Sennheiser PC37X mic is not the best representation of what the Schiit Fulla 3 or Schiit Hel offers when it comes to mic quality. Seems like this was more biased for selling purposes. I love the PC37X but V-Moda Boom Pro mic and the ModMic 5 probably have way better mic quality compared to the PC37X mic. Look up other reviews where they utilize these mics and they sound so much better. Also, I am not sure but Dimitri probably didn't check the bit rate settings for the mic input in windows audio settings. I have read that sometimes some hardware won't default to the best bit rate it can handle and might be set to a lower bit rate, thus not giving you the best quality you can get. I'm surprised he hasn't reviewed the Mayflower Ark Mk2 yet since its a competitor to the Schiit Hel.
I have the gsx 1k right now and competitive audio is really hurting right now. So I'm happy you made that the first example.
Damn the Hel mic sounds way better, IMO
I agree completely
2x as good for 2x the price. Checks out.
I like the aggressiveness of the Fulla but the Hel is much cleaner.
@@adaml.5355 I'm sorry but no. I love creative but the x3 isn't that great.
even onboard audio sounded better than the fulla imo. Fulla came accros as really harsh to my ears
Arctis 7 with the Asus DGX with the uni xonar drivers and PEACE equalizer are what I've been using for years now. Dolby Headphone via Dolby Digital Live is just hands down hard to beat, even compared to Atmos. The surround sound and audio positioning is just stellar.
This is definitely one of your best videos, the editing was SO good!
I am using Schiit fulla 3 with sennheiser GSP 600 and I can confirm in Valorant I can hear footstep audio incredibly precisely, much moreso than with my astro a40's. Also the mic quality is insane
What if you use the Fulla 3 alone?
2:58 "Speakers (I'm Fulla Schiit)" on the bottom right corner.
Classic memes. 😁😁😁
The timing of this video is amazing. I was just looking at old forum posts about the Schiit Fulla 2 and searched for reviews and saw there was a Fulla 3 and this popped up
This! I've been using the Magni 3 with my DT990 since a while now, coming from onboard audio it was somewhat of a revelation... although their delivery times here in the EU suck :D
I've been thinking of getting one but worried because of the AC adapter. What are you using to use it with an EU outlet at 240V
I have the Magni 2Uber, but i want the Hel to maybe bring up the volume a bit more. I think the onboard audio doesn't put out like it should.
Thank you for the really good overview and review. I agree with your conclusions.
For gaming, it's Sennheiser HPs and their microphones FTW.
Amp-wise the Schiit Hel is bomb, they've nailed it with a very nice solution that will work great for many, many users. Love the no-hassle, no-drivers-required approach, and the external mic volume control is fantastic for in-game adjustment on the fly.
The sound quality and value of the 37x and Hel combo is nearly unbeatable for the $$ right now!
0:10 you and many techtubers have covered creative without talking about their horrendous aftercare and planned obsolescence. Many soundblaster z owners like have completely lost encoders options for like a year and many issues we had with the sbz have carried over to newer product lines like audio skipping and jumbled 5.1 speaker sound(center coming out of random speakers etc). They deleted their forums because of all the issues and their subreddit is beyond a joke. When the issue happened they created a diagnostic tool to gather info they got like 50 from the subreddit and then ignored the reports and came out with a new tool like 6+ months later and of course people moved on to newer solutions and had to ditch their sgz.
I can confirm that, got a broken Soundblaster Z as well which changed the 5.1 speaker outputs randomly and the software just didn't work at all most of the time. No product from Creative for me any time soon.
This has happened for most of Creatives existence, they made good sounding products for glowing reviews but then never get the software right, never release driver updates when windows moved between major versions and designed products to die very quickly. I got some 4.1 speakers from them on which the bass unit (master of the others) died after a month, after a year of trying to get them repaired and sent back and several hundred pounds of phone calls (i could have bought multiple new sets) i got them returned, a second set arrived a week later. And then they both died after a month of use.
Hey thanks for this information, I was considering their products, but I think I might stick with things that do not require driver updates.
@@SuperSeigerman I'm using onboard on my x370 crosshair 6 but think I may move to the sennheisser gsx1000 if it goes for 80 quid or so.
Sadly this is true. I use to own an SB Z a couple years ago and loved it, especially the ability to use optical out to my Schiit Modi and still be able to use their 5.1 virtual surround sound. but after they started releasing more new audio hardware, they neglected a lot of their other products, especially in the software side of things. My SB Z for some reason was giving me problems, from random pops to random audio settings changing, while Windows 10 was doing updates and Creative Labs not staying up to date with customer feedback, my SB Z was becoming useless every day.
Creative Labs needs to get their Schiit together or else they are going to disappear against these other companies that seem to be doing much better.
I've got SHP9500 + V-Moda Boom Pro after you showed it and now I've got Sennheiser Game One because you showed it. Well done man, well done :-D
Good that I'm still happy with SoundBlaster G3 and GSX1000 is a bit on an expensive side.
I'm trying not to fall down the rabbit hole of DACs and Amps. I've settled on the GSX myself just because I'm down with side tone and chat mix. Paired with the PC37x of course.
yeah, it's a dangerous, expensive road. This schiit stuff has good design with decent audio quality, so it'll act as a gateway drug once folks figure out that there are MUCH better dacs out there. Between Z-Reviews & the AudioScienceReview site, you can find yourself on a never-ending quest for something better. The trick is to find something that YOU think sounds good & be happy!
(sigh.. says the guy on some HD660s' & an RME dac)
I havent bought anything and im already down the rabbit hole
The Schiit stack setup seems to be more than capable for gaming, and its step up from the GSX1000, but I stopped using the GSX1000 after I started experimenting with higher bit and sample rate stereo, compared to the 7.1 function. The spacial sound from the 7.1 is impressive, but it takes a massive nosedive with the midrange becoming so muted its kinda shocking at first.
Stereo at higher quality samplerate and bitrate sounds better to me, at the slight expense of the 7.1. I'm probably gonna sell the GSX1000 now, and retire my Sennheister GSP600's, coz I got the Hifiman Sundura's to go with the Schiit stack, and I'm not planning on upgrading again.
I'm rocking a Creative SoundBlaster G6 dac/amp and a pair of AKG K712 Pro and i absolutely love them for gaming. The 5.1 virtual surround on the G6 works amazingly on these stereo headphones (i can finally hear footsteps in Battlefield V). There's also a Direct Mode for music listening. Also the K712 are very very comfortable and light (230 grams) and together with the wide sound stage makes them one of the, if not the best headphones for gaming at only 180£. I'm playing Battlefield V for 6-7 hours straight and these heaphones never becomes uncomfortable.
LOL
I got the Schiit Hell a week ago and its a beast XD
and i'm very happy with it - specially with the fact its powerful in case i'll buy ( and i sure will) more decent headphone like DT 1990 Pro
i have had a schiit headphone (all tube) preamp for a LONG time. They are very nice audiophile quailty gear, highly regarded in this world.
I would have liked to hear the microphone input on the Sennheiser GSX1000
Fully seconding this one :)
I'm using the GSX as well and would be nice to know whether there's any significant advantage to upgrading or not.
Great timing for this video, i've been looking to upgrade my sound. Originally wanted to buy new head phones, but my Sennheiser Game Zero Gaming Headsets still work just fine and im happy with the sound. Getting a good dac/amp is probably more important at this stage.
The perfect audio setup is one that I cannot afford right now 😂
I have this, its AWESOME. The mic input is also glorious and very clear
That's is some rEaLlY gOoD ScHiIt
hel yeah brother
I watched your pc37x review a couple weeks ago and decided to buy them going off of it. They still haven’t come in, but I’m glad to know you’re still choosing them today.
I preferred you using the Hel for the mic, it wasn't hearting my ears when listening to it using my HD58X on my Fulla 2
Did you change your fulla 2 ? I’m looking to get HD58x with Fulla 4 ist good or should i go with Hel
@@It7xc ive kept my fulla 2. the only other thing I bought since then was an Audioquest dragon fly red just so I can use these headphones with a laptop more easily. the great thing about hd58x is that it doesn't require too much to get good sound stage which is nice
Got a Fulla 3 a few months back. Mic port died almost immediately. Exchanged it for another. Mic port worked for about 1 minute before dying. The first Fulla I was sent had a clean volume dial when changing volume. The second Fulla I was sent has a scratchy volume knob. Disappointed, but the amp is stellar. I now use it with a Scarlett Solo. So, your mileage may vary.
Will this give me 360° sound immersion while I'm watching hentai?
lets you feel dem spanks yo
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH STOOOOOOPID
Asking the real questions.
You will feel the loads spray around you.
finally a man of culture
I literally upgraded my setup to some of the stuff in this video a month ago. A Fulla Schiit 3 and Beyerdynamics MX 300 v2 headphones with sheepskin leather Detoni ear pads. Such a great working from home investment.
This is some good schiit
I'll walk myself out now
Oh wait
damn it I thought 1 was bad enough.
Bring dat ass ear boi
NO SCHIIT
I bought my partner a Fulla 3, but I myself have had a Schiit Magni + Modi MultiBit stack in the past but have since switched back to my Grace Design M9XX. I prefer the M9XX because it's powerful enough to get decent volume even on inefficient planars like my Argon Mk3s, but has such a low noise floor that even the most sensitive IEMs are completely silent. I also like that there are 200 separate volume levels so you can get that perfect volume control as well as has crossfeed which is a nice bonus for those over-exaggerated stereo recordings like some old Beatles' track for example.
Clay Davis' favorite brand.
currently pre-amping some HD650s via a Magni Heresy into the GSX 1000. Best of both worlds!
I have a magni3+/modi 3 stack powering my HD6XX's and i love them, highly recommend them to anyone looking to improve their audio
Do you use a mic at all? If so, what was your solution for that? I'm looking at getting either a Magni/Modi or a Hel, but I'm pretty much always on Discord, even in single player games.
@@kevinobrien1026 I just use a blue snowball (usb mic) that cost me about $30 on Amazon and a cheap mic stand that was about $10 to keep it mounted right in front of my mouth, then I just run the usb cable along the stand and plug it into the usb hub built into my monitor, but something like a modmic uni would work well too if you can find a way to run the cable to the back of your computer
@@nova.celi_ Thanks, that helps a lot.
You can get surround sound, the same kind utilized by the GSX 1000, or any other surround sound device for that matter if you install Equalizer APO to ANY sound device, and install HeSuVi. I am currently running HeSuVi on a Khadas Tone Board in a mode that replicates the sound I got from my old Dolby Headphone adapter. So you can even add simulated surround sound to a Fulla 3.
Sound Blaster X3 should get a proper review, i got mine and i love the SXFI feature, I can actually hear sound coming from my back with my HD 6XX.
for $120 (or anything audio-related above $100) I would rather use recording audio interface anyway.
Just bought a Schiit Asgard 3 with USB DAC module, and I have been very happy with it. I didn't realize how clean audio out of my PC could be.
Dimitri, what about the New MH630 by Cooler Master though?
I have a simple Steel Series Arctic 5 usb headset and the sound quality and mic are superb for gaming and even use it for my business calls and meetings.
The best hardware won't do shit when the game itself is broken
*cough* warzone
*cough* steps coming from the left, dude appearing on the right
u probably wearing ur headphones backwards lol.
@@goofyboogie1891 nah warzone audio is trash
you coughing to much in this corona virus pandemic
I think warzone audio is pretty damn good with a good setup
@@lawrencealleyne1427 It has improved a lot to be fair. It was way more inconsistent 4 months ago
My current gaming setup:
Headphones:
Sennheiser HD660s
DAC/Amp
iFi Nano BL
If I ever need a mic, I just plug in my headphones through my Scarlett 2i2 and use my Electrovoice RE20. The mic setup is overkill so I'll check out something like the Schiit Hel and probably a smaller mic.
"entered the CHAD"
I got GSX 1000 and just paired it with a pretty simple yet powerful SMSL sAp II Pro amplifier and now I still have that amazing 7.1 whenever I want, but volume/power problems are gone :) I am using HD 58X as well
Hey, I hope someone sees this ..
I been trying to find the perfect headphone for gaming but I have no idea about audio. So what do you guys recommend me, this Schiit Amp and PC37x or the logitech g935 ?
Which one am I going to get better surround sound and cleaner audio to spot enemies in corners and that kind of stuff. Thanks a lot
I would recommend the PC37x. I have the game one but the 37x is just a rebrand so its the same thing. Very comfortable and really good sound quality. I love everything about it. The only minor downside that I haven't really seen many people talk about is the fact that sometimes since the headset is open back the audio coming from the headphones can leak into the mic. But besides that I wholeheartedly recommend it.
Always go for proper audio headphones+amp. Surround sound is a gimmick and so are "gaming" headphones. All you need is decent treble for footsteps.
Stereo audio gives better positioning in games than any virtual surround technology. Surround is nice in some single player games or movies though. Go with the PC37x or similar quality stereo headset(CM MH751/2 maybe?) and if you find the audio lacking, you can then get into dacs/amps.
I am in a similar boat, I am wanting to go for the sennheiser HD6xx and a mod-mic wireless, after my research I think that's a good combo I will be going for in the near future, coming off the hyper x cloud.
Thank you sooo much for your help guys, i will go with Schiit and PC37x. I hope the money is well spent. Again thanks a lot and yall have a great day and stay safe from covid
Wow, I have very similar setups!
I have a magni 3 connected the gsx1000 to driver headphones and preamp the speakers. Fantastic results as the virtual surround even work with my speakers. This is great for anything really.
But I use my Audeze Mobius/hyperx Orbit S more often as it can be quickly disconnected to turn into the Bluetooth mode for convenience, which can’t be said about almost every other gaming headphones.
And finally I have fulla-like fav/amp, the iDSD nano bl for music on my laptop.
What I learned is that if you want an all in one solution, get an Audeze Mobius/HyperX orbit S and you are done! Great sound, insane versatility, amazing techs, and convenience. Nothing comes closein terms of tech packages it offers.
What should I be looking for if I have a mounted streaming mic and a pear of audio headphones
Check out the modi magni3 stack from Schiit. BadSeedTech did a review a few days ago.
Depends on what color that pear is
Depends on what kind of mic, what kind of headphones and what u want to do.
This is crazy. I have that EXACT same audio setup. PC37X with the Schiit Fulla 3. Great combo.
I can't tell if this is a late april fools day joke or if its really Fulla Schiit
Been using the PC37X paired with a Fiio E10K amp DAC for the past couple years and still loving it.
Q: If i have a Soundblaster Omni 5.1 right now, do i need to change for a DAC or i am just fine?
I would think that your just fine. I wouldn't upgrade unless it's absolutely necessary.
watch BadSeed Tech latest video. he links his part 1 audio video in there and than you will find out if you want one or not.
Headphones first.
Unless you have clear problems with current audio source going for new/discrete AMP and/or DAC isn't worth it/going to change anything. If you're not happy with sound invest into new headphones.
if you end up with some powerhungry headphones you are fine, if you get let's say AKG K702 which are hard to power get also FiiO A5, but keep Omni 5.1, microphone quality is best you can get basically because it have 2 additional microphones built-in to leave the noise out, especially if you have loud mechanical keyboard
I had the Omni 5.1 and it's good enough, you won't hear any noticeable improvements unless you buy something much more expensive.
The Schitt Fulla 3 is really loud but that's probably a good thing considering many headsets mics don't have a high output. It's a little treble heavy but Equalizer APO + a VST plugin would fix that easily.
can’t afford these but Im still watching
If you're looking for a no thrills "gaming" dac/amp try the Syba Sonic, nowhere near the same sound quality but it'll do the job well enough.
I've been using a Fiio K3, ATH-AD500X, UMC22 audio interface and AT2020 mic. I have been very pleased with this setup.
Best microphone: The one you are using on the camera to record the video
Sennheiser HD6XX with Schiit Hel 2 - great combo.
Schiiiiiit!
I have the Fulla 2 on my desk. It lacks the front mic input of the 3, but it does have an 1/8th headphone jack. They make really nice hardware.
"I've always tried to stay clear of bad audio products"
*makes videos on Logitech and Razer speakers*
Those don't go together. Logitechs are known as being the worst speakers out there, and Razers aren't any better.
Sadly the PC audio world is quite crappy, at least when it comes to speakers.
Poly Reviews exactly
@@TalesOfWar If the manufacturer of your speakers or headphones also sells keyboards, don't be surprised if you get an earache! There are enough alternative: Teufel Concept C or even Kanto YU4
Using a PC37X as well (hooked up to a Sound Blaster AE-7) and they are amazing for gaming, videos and music for the price!
_"Gaming"_ audio.
This is satire, right?
It's a product designed for people who play games and use a mic. So yes, "gaming audio."
Games have audio don't you know.
As a current owner of the PC37x paired with a NZXT z370 mobo, I gotta say they just sound like there missing some details in sound as the highs aren't really there and the lows sound muddy to me possibly due to the fact there open back. My previous main headphones were the Bose Soundtrue around ear and to me they sound slightly better when it comes to all around sound. I do have all the listed drivers installed for the mobo from the mobo manufactures website. My mobo does have a 32 bit dac and I do have the 32 bit selected in windows sound settings. I can tell the mobo does produce a nice sound but another issue that I have came across is many people saying my mic is too quiet. My mic does appear to be at more of a normal level in discord though. I have my mic boosted as well but still appears to be quiet in many games. Other than all that I would recommend the PC37x's as they are very comfortable and do sound decent or possibly even better with some audio tweaking and research. Anyways thanks for whoever read this and have a good one.
You don't get demonetized for saying "shit." You get demonetized for having a political belief that Google disagrees with and seeks to suppress.
Nice! I was just looking to buy the Schiit Fulla 3, so the timing of the video couldn't have been better.
I personally use the Soundblaster G6 with Beyerdynamic dt770 pro and i wouldnt even think of switching😍
Have had my HEL for half a year now, still love it.
So good.
That Schiit is the mad note!
Would love to see how this compares to the Soundblaster G3. That little guy with the bluetooth to your phone to adjust mix and volume is awseome!
For anyone that doesn't know anything about audio, what is the best headset+dac/amp combos I can get for the best sound experience . I will mainly be using for gaming
It depends on how much money you want to spend, do you want your headphones to be open or closed backs? what kind of sound profile do you like? And it goes on and on and on, you could easily own a 300 usd headset and not like the sound just because it doesn't have enough bass for you, or enough trebble, or you don't quite like the soundstage, or you feel like the imaging isn't quite as good as your other 200 usd pair of headphones
The best gaming headphones are the Beyerdynamic tygr 300 r or the mmx 300.
Amp/dac depends on the features you want and budget. Schiit hel is a great choice for the money.
Can’t afford gaming DAC, so I used HeSuVi thru Equalizer APO to get better surround for my PC37X from my motherboard sound card. Games such as Modern Warfare can really use it because the default settings for headphone leaves a lot to be desired for audio positioning.
My Main setup uses a Schiit Jotunheim for my studio monitors and all my headphones, but I also have a Fulla 2 and love it. Since my laptop has a trash dac with a ton of noise in it, the balanced Dac and Amp circuits are great, that and the fact it supports full hi-res audio is a nice bonus. (Capable of 192Khz/32bit)
Edit: forgot to mention my main headphones are Hifiman HE-4XX's and Sennheiser HD558's (got the Sennheiser's for 100$ off at frys randomly.)
I went with the Schitt Hel to go with my Audio-Technica M50x headphones and I'm very happy with the combo. Good clean audio without spending a fortune.
great video, I will get the HD 58X and pair them with an X3, I understand your point but that hardware gives me the exact broad characteristics I use as an eclectic music lover and gaming, I searched for combination of X3 with the mentioned Sennheiser in this video and every single person just love the mix
I’m running my drop Sennheiser HD6xx through the Mayflower ARC MK2. It’s plug and play audio greatness to my ears.
Been using the fulla2 with Sennheiser pc360s for a while now. Fulla3 is the same just with the mic input. I'd recommend it for most basic headphones. Schiit has basically every need covered at every price point.
PC37X + Mayflower ARC FTW! It's cheap but I love the sound!
Still happy with my Fulla2 for 3 years already paired with Sennheiser HD 569 and Edifier R2730DB
Asus Xonar DGX. Headphone Amp in it. Sounds great and powers my HD6XX to levels far beyond comfort. And it's like, 1/3 the price.
Man I own the same thing. The dolby is great. The 7.1 sounds muffled though. Been using it since 2011 but I only owned a Hyper X CLoud v1 headphone so far. So I'm told by audiophiles that I'm wrong, and that they'd never believe me when I said the DGX with Dolby sounds better than the Fiio E10K.
@@zerotactix5739 Use HeSuvi for 7.1 instead (if you're using it for headphones). I've had this card for like 8 years and it's still the best sounding card for the price in my opinion. I've also tried various dacs and other audio equipment and heard nothing from them that warrants spending all that money in comparison to this card. It's just simply awesome.
So originally I set out to get a proper dac and I went through quite a few options at Best Buy as well as Amazon.... I ended up settling for something I was not expecting... The Corsair void elite pros wired headset... 7.1 surround sound is honestly quite impressive and any competitive game I've ever played I've always felt like I've had the edge on other players. The sound stage that it gives to all audio is impressive and I even like it so much that I tend to listen to my music in the 3D sound mode. I even find movies to be much more entertaining with this on. Shocked the hell out of me but they were quite cheap they sounded really good and I could pinpoint people's location by their footsteps better than I could with any other headset that I tried... Win-win for me
Great setup there. So far I'm using my Schiit Modi + Schiit Valhalla 2 for all purposes including gaming. Not using the microphone at all since I don't usually play online. And I think the mic with Hel sounded the best.
A great way to get that "gamer" market. Their amps, dacs, and pre' are all pretty great intro level hifi schiit.
Thx 4 the review Dmitry... The Schiit Hel sounded best by far to me... 😎👍
just bought the hd58x and the fulla 3. I haven't really tried a good pair of open back headphones or a dac/amp for that matter and im excited to see or rather hear how it sounds.
How's the combo?
Are you happy with the combo?
Currently looking for a dac/amp myself and was considering the Fulla 3 for my hd58x 🤔
Schiit products are amazing, esp. price/performance. My Modi 3 & Magni 3+ combo is just amazing and I just recently overspent and got myself Denon AH-D7200, because I'm sucker for walnut wood grain (and they sound amazing as they should for the price as well of course).
This and the Mayflower Electronics ARC MK2 are the best of what's available for gamers looking for a perfect compliment to their HiFi headphones for gaming.
I use a surround sound system half the time, partially for media (movies/YT or music) and some games like RPGs and stuff, while i use headphones for FPS and atmospheric games. So something that can be used with a 5.1 setup or something multichannel at least is nice. Cant wait to upgrade my peripherals once i have a new monitor lol.