PPE Prototype Catch Can revealed for 3.0 Duramax Diesel
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 มี.ค. 2024
- I stopped in over at PPE Diesel and took a sneak peak look at their prototype Catch Can for the 3.0 Duramax Diesel. In doing so, I camne across a catch can for the 3.0 ECODIESEL as well ! Tell your RAM buddies !
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Can you also review the VSE catch can? They just came out with one last week.
For sure !
I think the VSE design is much closer to the source connection. I wonder if that will result in more effective. Would definitely like to see a comparison.
The explanation for the PPE being further away is that it’s easier to separate more out when it’s cooler. I don’t know the science behind that personally. But I agree, seeing a side by side comparison will be great as they are two very different designs.
I had a catch can on my f150 ecoboost that was in the same spot as the vse. It caught a good bit of oil. Filled up every 7k
Can’t wait for PPE anymore. Going to get the vse.
Love the placement of it.
Great information thank you
Cool!
Definitely interested in a comparison to vse. Thank you for always putting out great reviews
Glad you like them! thanks for watching !
Yes review of the VSE will be great content I just order one will release April 5
Looks good to me. If it’s easy to install myself and I can afford one…I’m in for sure. It looks like it will solve the oil clogging mess, so I’m happy to get one.
I like this idea. I hope it will fit the 2025's because i am saving so i can get the ZR2 version without having a payment. Once i have that truck i'll be adding all the goodies you share with us.
It’s nice companies are coming out with catch cans now. I do like the VSE design much more due to its built in bypass.
Looking at this it seems like the R&D was not as robust as VSE.
But I’m also sure it will come with a much lower price point than $350.
I think both companies do a good job of R&D. Happy to see multiple options.
I just pre ordered the VSE version.
I'm definitely going with the VSE one when it comes out.
Same
vse has one ready very soon
Looks great! Thanks for the in depth look. I definitely want this. Based on the fact that they are still in prototype, I think I’m going to keep the VSE unit coming in a couple weeks, and I can get the PPE one down the road. This looks to be a better set up overall, but I don’t want to wait either.
I hope you’ll be reviewing the VSE unit also so that we can see your comparison.
The vse definitely has this one bet in the Bling department. If the two kits are in the same price range then I can foresee more people going towards the vse. Vse spent their money creating the catch can and ppe spent their money creating one piece rubber lines
@@gasparsperformance9841 again I’ll be interested to see the difference in performance. The VSE one might look flashy, but it doesn’t look very efficient when compared to this. And I’m after results more than looks, I don’t take my truck to shows.
However you are likely right in your analysis of the market. I’m not positive though as I feel like PPE has a pretty loyal following. And I bet the end result will be cleaner than the prototype we saw.
@@Gameplayer70 I’m running my own oil catch can setup in my truck (still doing some r&d) and so far I can say that it is worth the Pennie’s as I have seen it catch a good amount of oil. The main concern with an oil catch can on our trucks is trying not to get a engine check light for crankcase ventilation system disconnected.
@@gasparsperformance9841 yeah the explanation that VSE has with their video is very in depth. I was aware of the code, just not the exact reasoning. And I wasn’t aware of the actual negatives of cooking the oil onto the cooler. I knew I wanted a catch can cause oil going through the system is bad, lol. But I am now better informed.
So mpg wise do you think that truck would do better if you had lower gears
Excuse my ignorance but I have to ask, is this going to keep motor oil from getting to the exhaust system and playing hell on the sensors?
I hope they build one for the 2.8 duramax.
If your deleted it’s easy to cap the tube going to intake, weld a scavenger bung in the down pipe, use a 5/8” barb and connect the pcv line to a hose running to your exhaust. I did this in my 19 ZR2. It has worked flawlessly for 2 years. My ZR2 has the DT44 turbo & Crx Racing intercooler. I had to change a boot recently and the inside of the intercooler is absolutely spotless.
Seems like the VSE would transfer heat from the aluminum and make the oil condense better in the catch can. But being mounted right next to the turbo would be too hot of a location. Hydrocarbon fumes would need to cool to condense in the catch can. How is the effectiveness of the catch can measured?
Wouldn't the throttle body prevent runaway?
Good day,
LZ0 7300 miles, developed a tick only when in reverse or drive that goes away as the transmission and engine temp warms up. Everywhere only with videos included say “this is a normal noise”, however I don’t agree that it is normal, it is metallic in nature and goes away with either heat, or speed but only when in drive.
There’s very limited coverage on similar issues, the question I have is what could be the source? I’ve ruled out DEF injection as that sound I’ve heard and it doesn’t match this sound. It’s not ignition knock as that would occur regardless of engine temp, not lifter tick as that would be a much more pronounced tapping and it’s not an exhaust manifold leak as I have no soot build up
Is it possible this tick is coming from the transmission? There’s a few posts on tech pages that him at bad trans pumps, bad idle speed gears, and bad torque converts contributing to similar sounds.
Really difficult to wrap my head around, truck is on warranty but I depend on it for work, any guidance would be appreciated.
Any idea on price?
I know this is not the topic of the video but I just installed my dash and I have one of the readings dog regen it’s showing 99 percent even though it had one last Thursday, It’s only been about 100 miles
The LM2 and LZ0 have throttle bodies, they close at shut off, this would have to fail in conjunction with the turbo to run away
Superb!
Great. Need it for my Tahoe! How do I get on the list ??
Keep an eye out when I am testing one, hopefully have that info then.
How difficult to install on a 1/10 scale? Thanks
Any idea when this will be available and what the cost might be?
Great presentation and really helpful news!. Will this product be directly installed at the Chevrolet factory when the assembled? Or, will this PPE Prototype Catch Can remain as an after market product and will be installed by the owner? Best, Steve from Western Mass
This is an aftermarket item and would need to be installed by a shop or yourself.
I lease my truck so do you think that this would violate any terms of a factory lease? I am 99% sure I am going to keep the truck after the lease expires but I was wondering just in case.
Anything is possible, i cannot make any claims for agreements or warranties.
No I know that you can’t, I was just wondering what your opinion was. Since it is reversible I think I would probably be fine. Thank you for your reply!
What oil filter are you currently running? If he STP or the PPE?
PPE, but the STP is a great value !
Hey man are you going to do the PPE trans pan on this ZR2?
Yes, I will.
@@DemonWorks Sweet! Looking forward to the video, I want to see the clearance for the skids and crossmembers and all that
I’m a bit disappointed that they’ve taken this long to package an off-the-shelf Mann+Hummel ProVent 200 with some hoses and brackets.
For those wondering about price, the ProVent 200 oil separator runs $160-$180 online without hoses, brackets, clamps, etc.
I’d be shocked to see this assembled kit fromPPE for under $250.
I wonder what this unit will perform like in cold weather, my understanding is that catch cans in general have not done well in the cold climates due to accumulating water which in turn freezes and then effectively plugs up the pcv system from operating at all and then really bad things happens due to the crank case pressure not being able to re-leave itself. Had you asked if they have had a chance to do extensive cold weather testing as of yet ?. If some system could cope with cold winter climates, that would be a boone to not only the diesel world but the gas DI world.
The VSE unit might be a better choice for that environment-it has a bypass machined into the top in case the tank gets full, or in this case, blocked by ice.
@@lewiswatchorn7239Right, I am just not clear on this unit as to a protection system in that way. Constant cold weather makes for a tough environment for some devices to work properly, namely the lovely Exhaust Fluid crap that freezes and the system goes into limp mode.
I brought up this same point on the VSE CC video and crickets (as of a couple days ago). I haven't checked just recently. The prototype mount location of this PPE can will likely introduce a lot of moisture, etc, especially in the winter and sub zero weather IMHO...
@@sierracatMy concern as well would be moisture drop out within the hoses and block them right off. This is what happens as an example with a simple two cylinder grain auger engine commonly used, the crank case ventilation system routes a hose around to suck in the vapours but with extreme cold temps that water vapour turns to ice within the hose and once it plugs off there is no where for the crank case pressure to go so either one lucks out and it blows the oil dipstick out enough that air can escape or it blows the crankshaft seal out the side of the engine and the oil flies out and the engine is toast if not caught right away. One sure does not want that to happen to your vehicle and its a classic situation of warranty that would not cover damage associated with adding a catch can, that's the reality of it. Having said that, if one lives in an above freezing climate, that should never be a worry.
The catch can on my Kia forte GT doesn’t freeze up at all during the winter. Although to be fair it’s mounted right next to the block and is very warm after operating the vehicle. I think this helps eliminate any residual moisture in the lines.
When are they expecting to release this catch can?
Couple months out was my understanding.
when available
Few months out.
Looks like Provent 3.0
Provent 200
It is a provent catch can, just has ppe hoses to complete it as a kit
Had same can on my tt lsx 5th gen
Why not just switch to a 0w40 HD diesel oil. I'm sure there would be a lot less oil in the crankcase vapor.
Bearing clearances are not made to work well with 0w40
what’s up with you not responding all run vse comments?
I’ve responded to a few, haven’t replied to many comments on here, sorry but I’ve been busy elsewhere… I plan on running a vse to test as well…
PCV systems are so fking annoying. So are catch cans that aren't designed with the extreme cold of the North in mind and constantly fill up with water and turn into an ice block. I had one on a 2014 Silverado and it iced sooner than expected and began to run weird on the drive home from work one night. When I got hope, I popped the hood to check the catch can. It was so iced up I had to use a heat gun to thaw it out. It was so iced up that it caused the crankcase to pressurize enough to pop the dipstick out of position. I would just vent it to atmosphere but I don't want to give up the advantage that comes with pulling a light vacuum on the crankcase.
Lmao, hopefully Chevy is watching this.
Thanks for watching!
Do they have a price point yet?
Unfortunately I’d guess $500+. Their stuff seems to be engineered well, but ain’t cheap
$349 pre order on their site
@@4961Studebaker I’m not seeing it there yet. That price would be comparable to their competitors
plastic… ehh.. run vse go to!
Did PPE partnered with ProVent 200? I've been waiting and hoping for something more unique......
PASS
PPE didn't partner with Provent, but theirs does use the provent unit. I did just post a video on the VSE if that's more your style. I try to show everything available.
Does the lm2 leak oil like that??
They all consume oil like that, yes. Shown in the video is a LM2.
I know this is not the topic of the video but I just installed my dash and I have one of the readings dog regen it’s showing 99 percent even though it had one last Thursday, It’s only been about 100 miles
Did your prior regen get interrupted a lot?
@@DemonWorks no the last one it had was preformed by the dealer I had P2459 and they said it was a exhaust clamp that want seated properly so the fixed it then made it regen
@@DemonWorks my idash also says it will regen every 186 miles which I don’t think is normal either
based on the code and the info of the dealership repair, I think it's either your driving style/location/area or there is an issue within the system that needs to be found.@@shullhunter7073
@@DemonWorks I do mostly city driving short trips, which I know isn’t good and would cause it to region more frequent but I didn’t think it would be that frequent but I was instructed to drive the truck around and if the code pops back up to take it back to the dealer is what they told me