Why Verstappen's special F1 driving style is a myth
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- Max Verstappen's phenomenal ability behind the wheel of an F1 car is not in doubt, but Red Bull's failure to get on terms with Mercedes, and the struggles of his team-mates in recent year, have prompted theories that what he needs from a car results in the team producing machinery that is very difficult to drive. In this video Scott Mitchell explores that theory, featuring some input from Verstappen himself.
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I remember in the Dutch press Max Verstappen was asked if RBR made the car suit him instead of his teammates. Max said that both drivers gave the same input, but that does not translate to the design as much. He then laughed "if they wanted to make the car suit me, they did a bad job of it".
exactly 😂
Tbh if this reflects poorly on anyone, its Adrian Newey. He's too stubborn to switch the core philosophy of the car (which is a proven failure) & in classic fashion he always like his McLaren days puts his ideas 1st & makes everyone else including drivers/mechanics work around him. Clearly hasn't worked 1 bit, Always turn up too late & seemingly just moan about Mercs without doing anything. Even Ferrari almost nabbed the titile in 2017 & 2018 with a much better car. This is simply the best Newey can do & needs people like Max to even remain in top 3. Only reason Gasly isn't allowed back is cause he questioned Newey....Albon was a good boy who stayed quiet internally & externally which is why he stayed in that seat so long & wasn't made unemployed. Adrian Newey is good, but there's a dozen other Adrian Newey's who've done just a good job we never hear of. People overesitmate the Merc engine since 2014 & underestimated their wider package....which everyone now admits. The fact Alpha Tauri isn't far of RB at times & fact they now design more of their car should tell you something about Newey.
@@d.b.cooper1 Exactly right.
@@d.b.cooper1 I think Adrian makes great cars. The thing is Mercedes are a powerhouse on both the engine side and aero side. Their engine keeps them ahead (reliability wise and in power) and their aero once polished makes them untouchable.
Redbull have been known to dominate on certain tracks like Monaco, Brazil, Mexico etc. because of their great aerodynamic concept.
That's until Mercedes caught up of course but, Adrian is pristine in his work and comes up with brilliant designs. It's just overshadowed by Mercedes brilliance.
@@netsoroneandonly9326 remember the mind behind the technical success of Mercedes is now gone since last year. I don't remember the name but this season you'll remember me when I say this.. It'll be different level of performance on that Mercedes livery. Downwards and not adapted to evolve. No technical genius on board, bye bye performance.
Lewis vs Max in an identical F1 car is something id love to see
Its what f1 needs right now
We need a Champions League racing in equal cars built by FIA for the top 5 drivers at the end of a season to race each other. 100 laps night and day battle.
Let’s put them both in a Williams for a couple of races (or at least some head to heads)
In mercs or rb's?
lewis vs george
I remember that Horner at one point said that they were able to adjust the car in such a way that Albon was more comfortable with it but it ended up making the car slower overall. It really does seem that it was just a knife-edge car that Verstappen was just way better at controlling.
Max is a human version of the fly-by-wire system in modern fighter aircraft
My theory is that the RB was at best marginally faster than the RP on pure merit. I don't think Max finishes anywhere but 3rd in the championship if he drove a RP and the whole deal where everyone judged Albon for being slower in a "Superior" car was an exaggeration if not a myth. The car wasn't much better than the others. Max is.
@Ryan Lane we already know this based on what? RP fell back in the standing on DNFs not pace. Sergio ran near the front in 3 of the last 4 races and the last he had penalties that started him at the back. There's absolutely no evidence of there being a huge gap between the 2 cars that's not based on Max's performance.
@Ryan Lane a lot of statements being presented as fact without any fact based evidence. How do you know it was 1 competent driver in a faster car and not 1 average driver and and an all time great dragging a good but not great car up above what would otherwise be competitors?
@@RemoG0915 thx man, finally some truth. Verstappen is just a different breed and Albon isn’t much worse than Perez. The racing point was really good and Verstappen would have been an easy P3 in that car. He will demolish Perez im quite sure. I don’t understand why people hail Perez that much, he’s decent but never showed to be top class. He had a good 2nd half in 2020 and that’s why people are hyped
I think a lot of what we see of Max Verstappen is down to his karting years and how Jos Verstappen handled it.
- He didn't drive for a big team, no they build their kart themselves. That way Max learned every little aspect of the kart and how it influenced it on track.
- Jos would "sabotage" the kart so Max had to adapt to it without knowing at first what was changed.
- Jos always has been incredible harsh on any mistake made by Max. In such a way that no matter what a journalist or fan would say, Max has been through that with his dad before. There is for example this story of Jos kicking him out of the car at a petrol station in the middle of a foreign country and driving off after being to eager during a world championship race (not sure, might be a European championship). Or even when he won a race, but had a scrappy second lap, he got scolded for that one lap, not praised for the win.
- The 100% commitment Jos had towards the karting carreer of Max set an example for Max to always give it his best and to never slack off.
- Throughout his junior carreer Max was never given the best machinery and often placed in a field with more experience than he had, but he was still expected to win. Not a factory kart, a subtop F3 team despite having offers from top teams like Prema, not a singleseater debut in F4 but in F3 in a field where most had multiple years of single seater experience. Max doesn't know different than to punch above his weight.
In short Max was born a talent, but Jos nurtured that talent and created a monster.
you are genuinely one of the only people in this comment section who know what they're talking about
@@Druseth Thank you
He's basically the Agent 47 of F1.
He's an "Engineered" racer.
Jos Verstappen, trying to mould his son to be everything he could not be. I wonder, if Max even had a choice to pursue a different career as a kid.
@@saurabhdas3412 nope, max wanted to drive ever since he was like 2-3 years old, but jos actually didn't let him until he was like 5
Glad to see this debunked - Hamilton, Verstappen, Leclerc and possibly Ricciardo have been a cut above the rest in recent years - I guess in 2021 we'll see how deserving Verstappen, Leclerc and Ricciardo are of this position with their new teammates, or if Perez, Sainz or Norris deserve to be up there as top drivers too
Perez at least will be destroyed, Sainz and Norris won't do much better, even if I do think Norris is better than Sainz, Ricciardo is just more experienced whilst Norris still needs to grow as a driver.
Imo there's no 'possibly' in Ricciardo's case. The guy's insanely fast and consistent. During their time as teammates, I'd rate Ricciardo's performances better than Max's - marginally, of course.
@@doghat1619 Sainz has consistently been faster than Norris for 2 years.
I'd add Russell on that list
@@Mani6TheMan9 Ricciardo was better in 2016, but 2017 and 2018 I'd give to Verstappen.
I think he’s just a naturally adaptable driver. I remember someone (Barnard, was it?) said Schumi was a terrible tester because they’d make a change that imbalanced the car, but Schumi just produced the same laptime as before, without even noticing the imbalance, whereas de la Rosa once said for example that Kimi was a very consistent test driver. If a part was estimated at a theoretical 2 tenths - Kimi would improve by 2 tenths. Etc
I’ve heard similar, I think from Steve Matchett
I think all the great drivers are like that.
Lotus had said the same thing about Jim Clark in the 60s, and McLaren said that before 2007 they had never seen a driver adapt to "on the edge" car setup like Hamilton did, and it allowed them to push the setup to an amount of 'peakiness' they wouldn't have imagined a driver could handle.
@@Olivyay i dont think all are - but i think many are
It’s true, Kimi never adapted his driving style. When he made the switch from Michelin Mclaren to Bridgestone Ferrari, he never quite caught on with the way he has to muscle the car into the corner because he likes to have a little oversteer and rotate the car.
@@kenchen704 yeah. If you watch the way Kimi moves the wheel he’s quitw dainty - in certain corners you can see that he’s using his fingers to move the wheel and not his “grip” - and so the tiny oversteer helps him rotate
Max squeezes every performance in that RedBull has to offer and manages to compete with a highly competitive Mercedes and for that you gotta give him credit.
Interlagos 2020 was awsome, so was... wait a minute Interlagos is always awesome!
You mean an absolutely dominant and way faster mercedes lol
@@mikehydropneumatic2583 You mean 2019? Time flies
@@mikehydropneumatic2583 Max at Interlagos is always amazing.
Just like Senna!
When I was 16 I karted for some. Time, this was in the Netherlands . At the track there was already a talk about max and that he was something special. At that time he was only 9.
Started 4years old. And after GP weekend, in his first season. He would drive hours in simulator. He breath racing.
Hard to argue with the line that max would hardly ask for a car that’s slower than a Merc and prone to spinning 😂
People will say anything to cope with the fact that their favorite driver (Daniel and Albon for example) just isn't as good.
The point was clearly made by the narrator that Max was immature in his racing prior to 2020, 2018 was specifically mentioned. The more interesting point was that maturity was apparent after he realised there was nothing to race for - Albon and the midfield weren’t a threat and he wasn’t going to catch Bottas - now we wait to see how he performs with a bona fide challenge again (perhaps not this year).
@@duncanidaho9153 During the 2019 season he was 21 years old, how mature were you at 21?
Tbh if this reflects poorly on anyone, its Adrian Newey. He's too stubborn to switch the core philosophy of the car (which is porven failure) & in classic fashion he always like his McLaren days puts his ideas 1st & makes everyone else including drivers/mechanics work around him. Clearly hasn't worked 1 bit, Always turn up too late & seemingly just moan about Mercs without doing anything. Even Ferrari almost nabbed the titile in 2017 & 2018 with a much better car. This is simply the best Newey can do & needs people like Max to even remain in top 3. Only reason Gasly isn't allowed back is cause he questioned Newey....Albon was a good boy who stayed quiet internally & externally which is why he stayed in that seat so long & wasn't made unemployed. Adrian Newey is good, but there's a dozen other Adrian Newey's who've done just a good job we never hear of. People overesitmate the Merc engine since 2014 & underestimated their wider package....which everyone know admits.
@@FirstName69 Daniel was as good though, Max was just being favored because RBR are greedy to beat their own records
Let's be honest Max isn't really to blame for his teammates not living up to them, he's more experienced than the guys he's partnered in the last couple of years. It's red bull's fault for promoting them too early
this is an obvious answer that people and fans should know rn..
It doesn’t matter. Max will outspeed anyone. Red Bull just need to build a fast car.
Facts💯
Im tired of these sayings that the Car is designed for him.....Is he handicap or what? With the car is hard to drive because it is designed for a handicapped driver?..... It sounded like Verstappen wants the Car to be Slippery and un balanced Aero dynamics and more.... So they mean Lewis Hamilton's Car is a friendly user can because George Russell was great on it. I cant wait how Checo will wrap up how bad or how good that Redbull Car is, Im just tired of the Verstappen excuses fault.
@@ratstar4102 it even defies logic,like why would a team that wants to win the constructors championship build a car that can be driven only by one of its drivers
Everyone's talking about Verstappen in a Mercedes competing with Hamilton . I'd like to see Hamilton in a Red Bull compete with Verstappen.
Also would be intresting.
Yep. Let him drive a car that is not perfectly suited for him
U on to something here....🤔
He will eat that "sir" alive 😅
The result would be the same, HAM crying.
In an interview on (I think Dutch) television Albon said that he never met a driver that used more frontwing than himself, until he met Max. He say's Max is able to drive the redbull with an incredable amount of inbalance due to an absurd about of downforce on the front that isn't match with the real and have a lot of confidence in the corners while the cars downforce isn't balanced properly. This was a skill Albon attributed to Max as a reason he could drive the RedBull so well while he was having issues.
It's just like the "Alonso driving style" with the aggressive turn-in when he was at Renault. That wasn't his driving style. It was just the way the car needed to be driven to be fast.
But Alonso's R25 style was also risky because you could easily lose control of the car. No one has attempted it and no one has perfected it as Alonso did. But a major key to that car and why his style worked was because of the Michelin tyres. When he drove the car in 2020, he said that the balance was never right with the current tyres and he was off a few seconds from what he thought he really could go with the car when he had the Michelins.
It’s a car with smaller margin for error and significantly less forgiveness because of this fact. let’s not make this more difficult than it needs to be.
IT was simply a bad car at the start of the season. All drivers had issues handling it. Max adjusted. Others couldn't.
Lets make it clear, if Max had the same car as Lewis, Lewis would have not be able to break Schumachers record!
@@Richardtv1968 To say the least..
Russell (after 100 laps of practice) showed how 'good' Bottas really is and how great that Mercedes is compared to every other car... Russell is good, but nowhere near Verstappen today
@@hezik1 Every year Mercedes gets such a big lead in the constructors that they switch their focus to the next years car early on, this lets the pack catch up a bit, leading some people to believe that the other teams have 'caught up' by the end of the year. Then the next year Mercedes dominates from the start, rinse and repeat.
They're just Lewis apologists. All real race fans know how special Max is
Nobody likes an unstable car. Max would like a stable one as well. Those who say that this isnt the case are in denial
Max _would like_ a stable car. Many other drivers _need_ a stable car…
@@Runoratsu mate you said it so well. To be fair Max would probably be okay with sacrificing stability for pace, whiel oyher drivers just cant do it. Even Horner said that Red Bull is a hard car to drive.
Schumacher actually did like it in his Benetton and early Ferrari days.
@@Runoratsu It's just Adrian Newy's over compensating for making a crap car in 2014 & refusing to switch philosophy to the high rake like Merc, He has history of designing difficult cars & making drivers/mechanics work around the issue instead of rectifying or at least trying to solve it. There's a dozen other Adrian Neweys who have done great jobs but never gotten the attention. RB has too many egos & big characters like Horner, Newey & Marko, I fear it won't get them far
@@d.b.cooper1 Merc has low rake.
Even at the very beginning of 2020 Grand Prix season, I was saying that Red Bull don't really have that good a car, that Verstappen's teammates were showing the car's true pace, and it was only his own skill that was masking how bad the car actually was.
Yep, just like Leclerc outperforming with his Ferrari the past few seasons.
@@empire0 Just exceptional driving ;)
Well, here is it why: It is not a myth. The dude is simply better than everyone else.
I think it would be a good PR event for every driver at the end of the season to drive the WCC car to truly see the difference between each drivers skill set rather than what they can do with their machinery
I'd love this idea! see who can get the fastest lap out of it as well :D
You'll just end up disappointed and buck broken when Merc drivers get the fastest times while subsequently lamenting that they have an intimate knowledge of the car. You don't really want that smoke.
@@curiosity3365 sure but who cares if its HAM-BOT 1-2. Were interested in seeing how everyone else will cope with the Merc, and who is truly the best of the rest.
Almost a great idea, just put them in the slowest car instead. A Merc driver has a huge advantage because the know the car better. Take that away and you'll actually see true comparisons
@@curiosity3365 Very true! So put them in te slowest car, problem fixed!
Verstappen has a knack of being able to find grip, where other don't..
@Santiago Oehler Toca I think Perez will be closer to him. Which is why Red Bull signed him I guess.
@Santiago Oehler Toca personally, I am kinda hoping that Max dominates his teammate. Just to show that Albon and Gasly aren't as bad as people think, and to show just how brilliant a driver Max really is.
Except on Turkish tracks......)
Apart from on the way to the grid in Hungary obviously... and when he was 1.2 seconds down on Hamilton in styria... and when he drove onto the astroturf in turkey... smh
@@ThistleThings it was actually not 1.2secs....it became 1.2scs becuase of the mistake he made ...and yeah when you talk about lucky lewis just go and check germany 2019
'Max wants a car with a predictable rear end'
Alex Albon wants to know your location
Bruh 😂
@@WinTech4074 They both like it that way
@JM #7 RACING 😂
Albon fans peddled this narrative hard despite the fact Verstappen was also struggling with the car at the start of last season.
@kai burke I dont know anyone in F1 can argue the experience of a 10 year old driver with a driver who couldn't even be 0.500 sec closer to his team mate on an average throughout the 25 races. And MOST underrated is a bit of a overstatement. Cause no one in red bull drivers were given this much time ( Hartley, Gasly , kvyat, Scott speed, buemi, aglueaseri) and I don't see no reason y any other guy shld be given extra leniency for not performing, F1 might not be his cup of tea, look at all the other red bull drivers (Hartley won le mans , Scott speed won Indy buemi competes well in lemans) Albon might be a gud driver but maybe isn't fit for F1 ryt now or he needs experience which we can speculate all we can but we dunno.
@@samp3180 interesting, I think the opposite. Less rear downforce with the changes to the rear floor. I'm predicting it will effect RB the most, being high rake of course and become even more unstable.
@@saikrishna522gasly was given way more time in F1 and a second chance so you're not even close to being correct, glasly should've been in Fe this past year
I think it was coming more from Lewis’ fans.
Albon has enough fans to make that kind if presence in f1? Highly fucking doubt it
Jos changed setup in max kart without telling that to max, so he would need to adapt and know what was changed in the kart. Thats how jos created a racing monster
Really? Wow!
@@nolifenerd2750 yes, max is not just a tallent, hes combination of talent and learning everything he needs at young age from his father.
that's quite interesting. could you like the article/video where this is mentioned? I'd like to read more into it
@@user-ze6wb9bl3f i belive it was in podcast with max, jos and DC. It was good podcast to find out about verstappen family
@@NoName-wi8xz Max is the definition of a testtube baby. His mother is a karting world champion and Jos moulded him since birth.
"The style of no style" - Bruce Lee... A style is just a limit put on you by your ego.
What nonsense, Bruce Lee was one of the most style conscious fighters ever, as evident from every film of him ever taped. Oh, and he was a Hong Kong champion dancer first, a sport where you're literally judged on your style. Oh, and his teacher was Yip Man, master of Wing Chun, a highly stylized, if inefficient school of combat. So, please, enough with the pocket philosophy
Glad that this has been said. There's a difference between someone's driving style and their adaptability. Max has a classic way of driving as you can see from driver61 video. What makes the difference is his adaptability. This is what makes drivers great.
Indeed. I got sick and tired of these clueless peope claiming he has a UNIQUE STYLE and that RBR only build the car TO THAT.
@@Marc98338 I mean cars are built to suit a certain driving style usually if there's a number 1 driver
@@redbullsauberpetronas Yes but the points is that Max doenst have a particular driving style like for example Alonso or Vettel.
@@Marc98338 🤡
@@redbullsauberpetronas ?
The key is: feeling the balance change of the car. Every corner of every lap of all GP (every track).
This is what Max is talking about when talking about to adapt your driving style weekend by weekend. Understeer and oversteer is just down to the balance (of the car).
At least this is what I think with my current knowledge about driving a car.
You did great my guy!
@@aliefdrumline Thx! 👍
There's also the natural yaw rates that a car permits before spinning, turn-in rates (how quickly the nose changes direction when the wheel is turned), and polar inertial moment (how far apart the front and rear weight distributions are, and how this can inherently make a car unstable on its own)
To imply that it's just understeer and oversteer heavily simplifies it but you're on the right track. Dig even deeper and you'll find more.
You are correct sir.
It baffles me that there are actually people out there that believe an engineer would design a car to have oversteer or understeer.
Trust me when i say that if you ask any racing driver what characteristics they would like in a car they would all say 0 understeer, 0 oversteer, cornering like it's on rails and a straightline speed like a bullet.
Sure drivers prefer to have understeer or oversteer if they had to choose the lesser of two evils.
@@AndrewGeierMelons How quickly the nose changes direction: Sepang turn 5 & 6 (where Vettel and Stroll collided on the cool down lap in 2017) is really needy on this "featute" of the car.
I think they have been missing a experienced driver to direct the team on where to go. They had mark webber that did the role perfectly. Once he left the team seem to lack driver direction. Max has the raw speed and talent and is still developing as a driver leader for the team. The help of Perez I think will be massive for the team and max. Gasly n Albon lacked that experience.
@@elise190s didn’t red bull win in Austria and Mexico 2019 ? two power circuits. Power unit hasn’t been the problem
@Rafael Herschel well this aged well
In the 25 years ive watched F1, a top driver manages to put a bigger gap to his teamm8 in a difficult to drive car.
This video is very well done. I got so tired of people saying RBR is making a car which ONLY suits Max. Sorry but those people have no clue.
3:10 Great point. Ive once heard a mechanic of Schumacher say that Barrichello had his days where he was quicker then Schumi but also days where he wasn't even close to Michael. It is the adaptability of the absolute best drivers that makes the difference.
Yeah gasly sucks, he doesn't deserve to be in f1
Spot on. It seems that 80% of F1 fambase is very clueless though. I guess they are speaking from emotion, unable to accept that he is the best driver on the current grid.
Exactly.
Same as Ferrari. The car wasn't designed to suit Charles.
The car is what it is.
It's the driver's job to drive whatever they're given quickly.
The statement that the car is build for Max is one for people with a bad memory. Or have they been preparing the 2016 car seretly for Max as he switched to RBR halfway through the season?
@@GinoNL (n7
The fact is, had the field of cars been different these past couple of years, Verstappen would already be a world champion.
Well, he´s definitely proven he adapts to the car with the half car he´s driven during the Hungaroring 2021 GP. And what a job he did. Chapeau.
I don’t think he got enough credit for that performance. That’s arguably his greatest drive ever
Why I love MV33:
1) Doesn't lie or put on a fake act to get on the media's good side. Speaks his mind.( Primary reason)
2) Has a racer's mentality. Just like Ayrton Senna said, If he sees an opportunity, he goes for it. Yeah, he did make mistakes. What else would you expect from a 16 year old trying to catchup to world champions? But now he has learnt when to be aggressive and when to not.
3) He does not think or drive like other drivers. Just look at his over takes. He not just overtakes on the predictable parts of the track and when being overtaked, when most drivers give up and try to regain at the next overtake point. He just never lets them go and pushes it until the other driver gives up (most of the time). yeah, other drivers does this too some times. But, Verstappen does this almost all the time (with in the limit now a days).
And why I think he drives so well it because of his amazing control over the car. Since, he has such a good control over it, he can push it harder.
Mate no one cares enough to read a paragraph
@@mzie9110 you did, you love it. Thats the fact. No one is better than Max Verstappen, Toto is still upset that he give Max not on his 16 a change as a 2 sec driver near Mister Hamilton.If the Redbull f1 car give Max not a change to win the F1 title this year, next year he will drives a Mercedes f1 car, that contract still stand. Thats why Redbull must give him a winning car this year. If not hi will go to Toto a very good friend from his father Jos for many years.
Sorry for my bad english. Greetings from a real F1 fan for 40 years.
@@mzie9110 I fully agree
There is absolutely no doubt that they build that car around verstappen.. he gets everything and more out of his car. There is no denying that verstappen is a future champion but as long as Hamilton is driving he never will be
Verstappen wants a Mercedes lol
I mean... don’t they all?
@Charlie b me,in all honesty
Everyone wants a Mercedes drive but right now Max is with Redbull who treat him like a God so there's little incentive to move when it's clear Mercedes aren't replacing Hamilton and that if they do replace Bottas, Toto has his eye on Russell.
@@een4964 Then Toto will worship Russell. So, if Max was in Merc, they would worship him as well like RB do.
@@madhavisingh9046 Mercedes don't build their team around only one driver like Red Bull do. They're a less toxic organization. They don't have a Helmut Marko or a Horner. So they'd treat Max equally. Especially since he has no championships.
Thank you for a realistic description of Max's abilities. It makes a nice change. Another point regarding the "Red Bull only make cars for one driver" (it was the same thing during the Vettel/Webber years) is that they need both cars scoring as many points as possible each race. To concentrate on the one driver would be to effectively hand over the championship to the next best team (or just not take it to Mercedes) without having started the first race of the season.
Max himself has been desperate for a driver who's capable of winning races in the other car, and he's been saying so for the last few years (and he doesn't care who it is), especially since Danny Ric left the team. So far he's been the only one who can beat him in a straight fight - and that was when Max was a rookie (his first 2-3 years were essentially his rookie years given how little he'd raced in cars not karts!) I'm sure he'd be happy to have Ricciardo back alongside him at any time. He's certainly not phased at the thought of Checo turning up.
TBH, I'm more phased by it as despite his talent, Checo's shown himself to be prepared to deliberately take his own team mate out more than once. I truly hope he's not going to pull any stunts like that in an attempt to have a better score at the end of the year (I'm not convinced that he wouldn't though). Don't get me wrong, I think he's a good driver and deserves a chance in a top team. But he showed even last year that he doesn't always drive with his head rather than his heart (he was told to pull over - and he knew his engine had gone - ages before he actually stopped in flames in Bahrain. That must have cost the team an absolute bomb and he could have been laying oil down on the track, especially all around the corners he didn't pull in after getting round them. That was distinctly unprofessional and could have caused a major accident.)
Could Max win a championship if his car was close enough to Lewis's? Absolutely. Will he get that car before Lewis retires? Unlikely. And with the engine supply problems, it doesn't look like he's going to get that decent car any time soon. Red Bull might even pull out of F1! Then he'd have to hope that a top team would have a seat available. Let's hope that the RB/Honda project comes up with the goods and Newey actually designs a decent, stable car for this year and so on. He's not the god people make him out to be. He can either design rocket ships or total clunkers.
Love the content guys, keep it up!
I hope gasly goes to alpine next year and do what sainz done
gasly is not as good as sainz tho
@@himaykapadia4641 No he’s better
@@seanchandley1604 😂😂😂 what. The same Gasly that got crushed by Verstappen.
@@seanchandley1604 he is not even close to sainz if u wanna know it
@@TJ-rn6ux I mean, Sainz got crushed by a 17 year old Verstappen as well.
His ability to find the grippiest line IS special.
Why should he or anyone keep "a lid on every emotion"? This guy is a racing driver not a robot.
5:57 Im not saying that he doesn’t make mistakes, but didn’t he have a huge 7 degree discrepancy between the sides of his front wing that race? Or am I remembering it wrong?
That is what both Verstappen and the team said yes. They tried to correct it during a pitstop but somehow ended up making the difference even greater. 7 clicks difference I think, which is ''only'' 5mm or something, shows how aero-sensitive those cars are.
@@lunasilvermoon2283 they have a marker on those wings so the engineers know witch way to turn the wings. But in that weekend they used new wings But those markers was not facing the same way as the old wings. And that is why there was a big differents.
All this praise, and I declare he is still UNDERRATED. I think we would all die happy if we were treated to a season of Max and Lewis in the same car.
@@elise190s well something close will happen though. This season is going to be 🔥
@@FormulaJuan75 and after Monaco the fire just got hotter.
The spin in Turkey was caused by a faulty front wing setup. It had the flaps on one side at -7 clicks and on the other side at +7 clicks.
You know what else is a myth, Vettel losing his hair due to Ferrari instead of male pattern baldness. His not young anymore guys.
Me seeing all the angry repliers: this is all part of the masterplan.
He is *
He was trying to gain some extra aero performance
true that!!!!
@@callumclarke-elder6357 ha lol
He's not old. He's only 33, which is quite early to be balding imo.
Everyone's making out that Verstappen's like already got 3 or 4 overall season wins. It still can go wrong for him.
He's always been a great driver, that's why they gave him a seat at such a young age.
When Max gets into his car, a kind of symbiosis between driver and car takes place. That makes Verstappen so special ...
Great video! Also, the soundtrack is amazing, what song is it from?
I'm truly beginning to enjoy this channel a lot! Since I subscribed, there has been nothing but great content, and excellent voice presentation.....It is extremely refreshing!
spot on mate, good analyse i love it
I think the car has a fundamental design problem
Adrian newey seems to be more focused on how he can make the car tighter packaged instead of how easy it is to drive
a more tightly packed car is nimbler though
It's like everyone ignored how horrible gasly was, they make every possible excuse for gasly but albon who's had significantly less F1 experience they hate with a passion. F1 fans have the worse memories in all of sports
@@dsdy1205 the rear end was too nimble compared to the front end
@@redbullsauberpetronas and they conveniently forget the race where Albon smashed his car in practice and had to get Max's parts and a podium. Next race: Albon parts, no podium.
@@DocTommy1972 Stop making things up, it's embarrassing
Since Leclerc came into the sport and started challenging Max I've seen a difference in him. He became a lot more mature and found that extra 2 or 3 tenths.
Max is not focussed on Leclerc. He is focussed on Lewis/Merc.
@@AN-pv4nz Now he is, since Merc is the only real competitor for the podium positions.
Since leClerc came into the sport???? LeClerc and Max have been driving against each other in karts since they were around 10-12...
@@Niels4354 True, but for his first 3 years Leclerc wasn't in the sport
This is an old argument, going back to the time when one Michael Schumacher, you might have heard of him, literally outperformed his teammates at Benetton to the point of almost being in a different class. The reason? Schumacher liked a car that understeered in the front and was also very loose in the rear: the car was designed to drift naturally over all 4 wheels. Schumacher preferred that and could get the maximum performance out of that car, while his teammates struggled mightily and never got anywhere near Schumachers laptimes.
The same goes for Verstappen: when Vettel won his 4 consecutive World Championships, the Red Bull was very "planted": the front turned in very crisply without understeering and the rear was also very stable. And the car stayed that way after Vettel left. When Verstappen joined Red Bull, his teammate Ricciardo could keep up with him reasonably well, but that changed quite a bit over the next seasons. Verstappen was able to set faster and faster laps with the car while Ricciardo fell more and more behind. So if the car wasn't designed more to Verstappen's liking, was it Ricciardo who actually got slower and slower? Not really, as Ricciardo proved when he moved from Red Bull to Renault. The Renault was argueably worse than the Red Bull but Ricciardo consistently outpaced his teammate, showing he was still on top of his game.
And as all replacements of Ricciardo also struggled mightily to get consistent laptimes out of the car and never even got close to Verstappens laptimes, this leads to two possible conclusions:
1. Verstappen is way more talented than Ricciardo, Kvyatt, Gasly, Albon etc.
2. the car is designed for a specific driving style that suits Verstappen.
@TJ Roelsma
#2, is more likely:
Just look at Gasly, after he was demoted in 2019, he not only was more consistent and put out faster laptimes than when he was at Red Bull, he also could match and or even outperform Albons Red Bull car (who at that point took over at Red Bull instead, a "supposedly" faster car than Toro Rosso)...
PS: To make matters worse, that trend continued in 2020 as well.
@@Moonshine1147 Yes, but as this video both dismisses Verstappens mythical driving style ánd that the Red Bull is being designed to fit his driving style, I left the choice open.
For me Verstappen IS a very talented driver who, just like Alonso, always manages to get that little bit more out of a car, but not to the degree that he demolishes drivers like Ricciardo, Gasly etc. But for me it's also clear the Red Bul is designed to fit Verstappens driving style because said drivers just can't get the maximum out of that car. So while it's mostly #2, in my opinion there's also a bit of #1 in the equation.
@@Moonshine1147 Here's why he did better: Experience and personal growth. All of this can be summarised with that. Not to mention, the cars these days are very much able to be customised for each race, and each driver
@@Moonshine1147 for fucks sake. They are racers. They are not just supposed tl race f1 cars. Almsot all of them have raced in f2 too or changed teams. Every single one of those cars will feel different. Drivers can and should addapt. Hoe cars handle changes after every change of regulation too. The set up is not only how the cars is built. The only reason gasly was doing in bad is not because the car suited to max but because Red Bull has sacrificed loads of driveability for speed in the car and Verstappen can still drive a hard to drive car quickly.
max got faster and faster obviously if we are talking about him vs danny ric. while danny stayed at his level in car thats just as much build for him as for max. you have to remember that max was 18 years old when he started competing vs ricciardo. young drivers get better.. old drivers did that already. Imo the answer is 1)
Max would already be a world champions if he had a Benz... hoping for a Red Bull contender car
A lot of the grid would in that car
Given Hamilton isn't in the other though
@@penart8079 we will probably never know, but he did loose out against Rosberg once ;)
@@theWebmasterify And then he was so bitchy about it that Rosberg got yeeted out of F1
@@theWebmasterify once and then Rosberg ran away after getting bull dosed since 2013 and winning by 5 points.
I don't know why we forget about Ricciardo, he peformed at Par and occasionally (e.g Monaco 2018) far better than Max, RedBull isn't holding any driver back (right now)
The top drivers have different physical traits: quicker reaction times, ability to mentally calculate events on the track quicker than the others, a keener sense of eyesight, etc. Lewis, Max, Leclarc. These guys are like the superstars of football, everyone is top tier, but there are always a few that are in the stratosphere.
In equal machinerie no one knows who would win from Lewis or Max... one thing we do know is that it will be one hell of a season where EVERY single GP is worth watching. Neither of them will ever play 2nd fiddle which would make for some fantastic racing.
It reminds me of Eddie Irvine saying the worse the car was, the faster Michael Schumacher was. Max has that same talent of adapting and masking big flaws with the car.
And you seriously believe that about Schumacher? Hahaha!
@@danguee1 Obviously I don't mean he was faster than he would have been in a better car. The difference between Schumacher and Irvine became bigger when the car was worse.
@@danguee1 1996 season, the car was a shit box, Michael scored 59 points with 3 wins, Irvine scored 11
The fact remains that Red Bull is overly relying on Verstappen for feedback. The way they handled Gasly and Albon shows that they rather put blame on the driver than accepting that their car might not be as good as Versrappen makes it look
Fact is they can only really rely on Verstappen for feedback, since he’s the only driver pushing the car to the limit. Right at the limit is where you can find room for improvement.
i repaired their karting truck once . father jos bought a truck for the go carts and dragged him everywhere , they were constantly on the road to and from tracks everywhere in europe since he was a very young child . having a financial secure ex f1 driver as a father who is on a mission with his son was key i think since his uncontious instincts are so strong
I like the way your vocab is expanding, Scott. Using different words with different/richer meaning is making you more articulate and expanding our vocab at the same time. Niice!
I'm a Lewis fan through and through, but I will admit that Verstappen is an outstanding driver. He's intuitive, quick, bold and fairly measured for his age. I think he will 100% get better as he gets older and gains more F1 experience.
Is he better than Lewis though? Hard to say really, as Lewis is older and has more track experience which makes him a different driver to Verstappen. All I know is that this season is a great one already and its a joy to be watching F1 at a time when Lewis and Verstappen are racing. Definitely a battle for the ages!!
Basically he’s just built different
The idea that Verstappen drives his car aggressively is a red herring itself. Driver61 has discussed this. Max Verstappen's driving style is quite smooth and uses the car's rotation to allow quicker entries and faster exits. It's similar to the driving style used by Michael Schumacher. Verstappen isn't like Alonso, who is throwing his car into every corner so much that he generates understeer. He instead lets the rotation do some of his work for him. Hell, the only area where Verstappen is really aggressive is his approach to overtaking, defense, and wheel-to-wheel battles.
This is some of the best writing of The Race so far.
I agree with what's being said in this video.. People like Peter Windsor etc have said the same.. Of course Max can win a championship, he only needs a car that can beat the Mercedes with Lewis on a consistent basis from the get go..
I think he's the best (fastest) and has been for the past couple of years, despite not yet peaking. But we'll see if a certain Mexican can give me a different perspective.
The Mexican will change your perspective, he will change the perspective we have on Albon and Gasly... Verstappen is just in a league of his own...
Reason why the media is also to blame for Albon's failure (my thought, been observing him since he came to Redbull):
At the start of the season, Albon was not at the top 4, the media was ranting about why he is bad. But in reality, Redbull was trying to judge him. He always overtook others and gained positions. But in most of the races, he was not in a position to be at the top, because, his pit stops were mostly not race winning intended. He was many times pitted 2-3 times, but he still made up places from where he was left.
And everyone were complaining about Albon's "Bad" performance, when even Redbull itself didn't saying he did bad. And all that pressure may have made him over exert himself to the point of making a lot of mistakes.
I think Max is even better at setting up the car for the weekend than most if not all current F1 drivers.
Yes, you can have natural talent and speed but if you can't make the tires last a stint on a race, you pretty much dig yourself in a hole.
Max has shown that he is able to make the tires last even further than Mercedes while keeping a lot of pressure on Mercedes.
If Redbull really gave Verstappen wat he needs , they would give him a Mercedes .
I like it when people go with the “my fav driver needs to adept to the car” and Verstappen won in his first ever race in the RBR car and they never realized and admitted that.
No way there is a team that designs a difficult car only suited for 1 driver. They need points for the Constructors title, and that can only be achieved with 2 cars performing.
Verstappen is able to squeeze a lot from his car, and therefor the car is only as good as the second driver is able to get his maximum out of it. Leclerc does the same and Russel is also looking to do the same (in qualie that is).
If Red Bull bend to accommodate one man its Adrian Newey. His designs lay down serious challenges for engineers & drivers alike every season. With good reason, put a Mercedes engine or the 2019 Ferrari in that Red Bull & Max would already be a World Champion, guaranteed 🥇
Can you have ex f1 drivers (eg. JB) guest and do a comprehensive analysis on each of the driving styles of the young drivers?
Edit: you can include Alonso 😂
Why wouldn't you include Alonso? He is a young, talented, up-and-coming driver who will be a future world champion!
2:28 "A predictable rear end"
I hear Kim Kardashian's gonna be on the market pretty soon...
I remember albon stating he prefers the same things in a car as max does
If Albon and Gasley cant replicate or get his pace with all the inside data, its just talent and pure speed.
And people who say he crash alot, thats because he drive the car on its absolute limit and get the most out of it.
Hamilton dont have to do that because of his car, he can drive on cruise controle that car has so much overspeed its insane.
Well he isnt getting the most out of it if hes ceashing all the time now is he. And the audacity you have to say that any f1 car is a breeze to drive, makes it very obvious that you dont know what youre talking about. Pls dont come at me with verstappen army baby rage tho!
Pretty cool you guys got Max to comment on this topic directly.
Do it this year Max PLEASE!
A wide range of adaptability is why Vettel, despite his 4 championships, will always remain one step below the all-time greats of Hamilton, Alonso, Verstappen and Schumacher.
For some reason, half of the fanbase will always choose to ignore that factor in whatever comparison they do.
Three of them won championships. Max isn’t in their league yet. Give Vettel his props. Vettel was the most recent champion since Merc dominance.
@@stevenjackson4076 Vettel could have won the 2017 WDC and *should* have won the 2018 one. Those years Ferrari had the car to challenge Merc but they imploded both time.
All time great with no championships? By hook or by crook for some I guess...... An all time great with 10 wins, no championships and a few poles..... Amazing.
@@marvinlawrence of course he isn’t yet a all time great yet. But if you compare him to other f1 all time greats when they were as young as verstappen is now you can see al lot of similarities. And no one even came close to verstappen his youngest driver to win a race record.
Just look at the onboards. You can't say the car is built towards Verstappen because during his quali's when he's on the limit you can see the car step out and him reacting with the wheel or the throttle. Red Bull is, naturally, a skiddish car. I'd say, since Daniel left Red Bull lost a key player into fine tuning their car. Just Verstappen was able to deal and handle an unpredictable car.
I'm pretty sure that the RB16b is around 10-20 seconds slower as the Mercedes in raw pace, it's just his talent making it look like there is no gap. Every other driver on his side showed how good they are in the second to third fastest car respectively. It's just Max who is ahead of like everything. I never blamed a single teammate of him for being so slow. It has to be brutal to be that much slower, and not finding a way to close the gap. Verstappen is a damn beast and a future champion. For sure.
This man's a machine. Give him the right car and he'll dominate.
Just like any other driver lol
Just like everybody else
@@sf3166 just like Stroll ? 😂
@@madhavisingh9046 but stroll is actually good and accomplished. Look at his history he isn't bad by any measure
@@julianmorgan79 he is decent. But lacks consistency. Tbh, he has no consistency. On his days, he is pretty good. But he hasn't been able to hold that up over a season. The comment was talking about 'dominating'. Lance would need to improve his consistency and pace by a lot to dominate.
Great explanation. Glad to see the myth that the car is built JUST for Max is being put to bed.
Great video. I think 2021 will be a "2012" season. Especially now with Checo as his team mate. Good season ahead, get ur popcorn ready.
Verstappen reminds me of Giles Villeneuve. Giles was very popular with the fans and many commentators thought we would be a world champion, but I saw a very inconsistent driver who often made poor decisions on the track. Like Villeneuve, the talent is there, but I doubt Max has the consistency and professionalism needed to win a world championship.
Been saying the same thing for a while now ,I was hyped at 1st but it's been 6 years and now 7th waiting for that promised champion . And people fail to realise he has been driving for 6 years as a number 1 driver for big team and he is not a rookie anymore . And if you check the stats he only has 10 wins .
@@stephenn587 "only has 10 wins" He has never driven in championship caliber car and he has been driving against the most dominant force(Mercedes) in the history of F1
It's like The Race is taking a jab at Driver61 LOL
Hey don't go fighting now The Race and Driver 61.
Next video by The Race " Senna's car did not have a trottle paddle"
if you know you know
idk, I don't think the points raised by both channels are mutually exclusive. Here they say that Verstappen adapts to the situation very well, Driver61 talks about the techniques he uses in specific situations (except the squarer racing line bit, but literally every fast driver he covers shows that trait, so it's probably a v general skill)
Driver61 is hyper cringe
@@dsdy1205 The title clickbait seems directed straight at D61's video. The resolved argument here is: yeah, Max might have an ingrained style (based on 11 yrs carting) but he moderates depending on conditions. Likewise the notion that Redbull doesn't design the car around Max is discounted by Horner's clear statement on the subject (quotes mentioned elsewhere in comments) to the effect that 'we could make it easy for Albon to drive but that would make Max slower'.
@@duncanidaho9153 Although they won't be a mile apart the cars doesn't need to be set up identically for both drivers.
That begs the questions of if the Red Bull car is really all it's chalked up to be.
Narrator: It's not
Please keep making more Maximum Verstappen and Red Bull-Honda videos. 👍
Would also love to see more Scuderia AlphaTauri
Congrats, I agree with your analysis completely. Simply put Max is among the best natural and experienced talents in the sport. Remember the top few are only tenths of a second a lap apart despite different cars. That is five eighths of the square root of bugger all. They are all good and little separates the great except consistency.
Used to call him Crashtappen back in the day 😂 Certainly delivered a mature season 2020.
I simply feel like everyones just getting better at avoiding his "moves"
5 DNFs last season he will never be a world champion overrated.
@@harrytownend3721 mostly due to engine failures, tyres exploding and getting punted by others though...defo not overrated. if Max is overrated then I'm scared for the futures of Charles, George and Carlos and co...
@@raycodv267
Doesn’t matter what the reason was Hamilton had none that’s why he will never be a world champion .
@@harrytownend3721 None of Max's DNFs were from driver error, there were 2 reliability malfunctions, 2 times he was crashed out by other drivers, and one tire failure, mid-turn on a rear wheel. He made a couple of mistakes, but he also had the highest podium finish rate per completed race out of all of the drivers. He missed the podium ONCE out of all of the races he didn't get a DNF.
@6:30 I remember there was a Dutch interview with Jack Plooij, in which Max and Jack drove around (clip is called "met Max Verstappen door de straten van Montreal" and about 5:28 they are talking about the upcoming press conference). In this interview Jack asked Max about all the comments Max got because he had so many incidents. Max replied that he would give a "kopstoot" to the person asking him about it in the future. So the comment Max made during the press conference wasn't completely out of thin air and can be taken as Dutch humor. Whether people think it was funny, is a whole other discussion. My point is that Max tends to be straight forward (like his dad) and sometimes says things that sound really harsh or even disrespectfull, but I feel like it is just "bad" (thats up for discussion, because I love it) humor from his side.
This is top notch dutch humor mate
In the car with Jack it was humor, but during the press conference it wasn't. You can tell by the look in his eyes he was completely fed up with the endless poking of the media.
But that does not explain why Gasly immediately performed well after going back to Toro Rosso. (I really don't think that it's because of the "pressure", if anything, the pressure is even higher after being demoted to STR)
Watch the video again if can't understand. The RB car is faster, but harder to drive to it's highest potential and Max can do that while Albon and Gasly can't because they aren't as good at adapting.
Normal Driver: can you teach me how to be fast,
Verstappen: You just need to react to the car reaction within 50milli second, than you be fast
Normal Driver: ..............................
Talent is all
He just has better management of his car, and he’s not scared to take a risk. He’s been doing this as long as he can remember, of course he’s going to be better than a lot of the grid
Next video: Why two different cars for Vettel and Leclerc is a myth?
Ferrari said it was different at some points. For example, Leclerc got new parts before Vettel.
@@FirstName69 and that's completely normal in F1, it happens at every team every year. Restraints on costs, production times and testing restrictions means teams always roll out high tier upgrades one car at a time. This is usually only for 1-2 races as there is always the risk that what was designed does not translate to on track performance. So they need the second driver in the current spec kit in case it's backwards.
This "at different times" excuse is trotted out far too often is done to intentionally distort the situation. The reality is Vettel is no longer the driver he was, Leclerc is better then him right now. So of course Leclerc is going to be the guinea pig. Nobody was complaining about Vettel getting upgrades first when he was winning his 4 world championships.
@@louiscypher4186 Exactly. Redbull favoured Vettel far more than Ferrari favouring Charles. In fact in 2019 Vettel was openly favoured compared to Charles. Only when Ferrari realised that Charles was faster than Seb, that they shifted priority to him.
Well for me, Vettel is a perfect example of a driver that is blistering fast with the right car but struggles with a car thats doesn't have certain strong points.
@@anands5560 Let me guess, you're going to claim they favoured Vettel in Singapore, right?
Think the key comment was accepting he had a none season in 2020 where Mercedes were much quicker and Albon was crap, so there was no pressure and he could only look good. Despite that there were silly mistakes like Turkey which you can't afford in a title fight with Lewis.
I think the true test is if Lewis drops a level with this lack of commitment to re-signing or Mercedes focus time on 2022 instead of 2021 and the car isn't as hot as the 2020 version and Red Bull are closer. We've not seen Max deal with the pressure of a genuine title fight and it will also be interesting if Perez starts keeping pace or niggling him. Max has always come across a bit Alonso like in that it all has to be about him and that tends to leads long-term to more underachievement than success. If Max & Red Bull had shown more maturity than Ricciardo would still be at the team and they'd be in a much stronger position now than a wasted 2 years on Gasly and Albon not contributing and not understanding the car.
What’s the name of the music playing in the background? Been looking for years for it!!
Me: so you’re telling me Verstappen is so great because of his ability to adapt?
THE RACE: yes
Me: and that’s a trait only shared by the greatest of drivers?
THE RACE: seems correct
Me: ...you could almost say it’s part of their “driving style”... Right?
THE RACE: WhY vErsTaPpEn’s SpEcIaL f1 dRiVinG StYLe iS a MyTH
Being more adaptable than others isn't really a driving style.
@@Mani6TheMan9 I guess that’s debatable, depends on what you consider ability vs. preference maybe? Honestly I’m just memeing around tho XD
@Silence Dogood aaaandd... This is how f1 elitism ruins the fun for everyone... First off nice of you to assume I’m just some kind of joker that doesn’t know what he’s talking about, you must have a pretty high opinion of yourself. I’ve been following every f1 race since 2007 and I have a channel dedicated to explaining different motorsport events using simracing as a support. I do more than enough research to know what I’m talking about when I say adaptability is at least partly responsible for a driver’s style. Granted at the level of f1 drivers the field is so competitive that differences between drivers are largely insignificant that why it was a freaking joke! I was poking fun at the channel that made the video because of their often exaggerated titles made to clickbate people into watching their content. That’s it no other hidden messages behind my comment. I’m not fanboying on Verstappen or calling him better than any other driver in fact. You just managed to interpret that thanks to your close-mindedness, congrats!
@Silence Dogood Hahaha I’m sorry but I’m starting to wonder if you’re the one joking around or if you’re really that far up your own backend. You try to teach me a lesson about close-mindedness while your first comment can be broken down to “only expert f1 fans have the right to ever comment or joke about f1”. But that’s beside the point, a bit like most of what just commented. Let me break it down once again maybe you’ll understand...
The title says “Why Verstappen’s special driving style is a myth”. This implies there is no difference between his style and the average f1 driver. At 2:59 “the trait that is second nature to Verstappen” is discussed. Here his ability to adapt is stated and it’s explained how it’s a trait shared by all great drivers. My joke makes use of these seemingly contradictory statements from the channel to try and create comic relief (i.e. a joke). So once again, like stated before “it is just a joke”.
Sure it’s not the best one I’ve made and it highly depends on interpretation of the title. Which can be interpreted in different ways before watching the video. And when you actually watch the video, like you pointed out, you actually realise the title points to other media sources that have linked Verstappen’s performance to a car that would better suit his own abilities. Which is indeed explained in great detail. I’m actually quite fond of “THE RACE”, I’m a subscriber to the channel and their journalistic work is top notch. If I have any complaint it’s their work on titles to bait the viewer in but sometimes creating a rather vague description to the video by doing so.
Max is the most naturally gifted driver in the current era, a future world champion
I agree with the adaptability argument, but I think we can be more specific. Verstappen is adaptable to unpredictable aero. He's also adaptable to changes in mechanical grip, being outstanding in the wet, but the reason he drives the Red Bull so much better than his teammates is because he can deal with changes in downforce. Alonso, Ricciardo, Leclerc, and Russel all appear to share aero adaptability. Vettel notably does not. (Hamilton has been fortunate enough not to have driven a car that would demonstrate whether he is a member of this group.) Stroll is an outstanding example of a driver who excels in wet conditions, but has no feel for tricky aero.
@Jay Moore what happened in Turkey? Or in Austria? What about 2017 Italy wet qualifying? 2018 Hungarian? Where was Max or anyone else? They were all behind Sir Lewis. So to say Sir Lewis is not in this group shows your stupidity. Oh I get it Sir Lewis does not fit your color category
@@buckrogers8858 Hamilton is great in the wet, and also great with old tires. He is very adaptable to changes in mechanical grip. He may or may not be adaptable to unstable aero; we don't know because he hasn't driven such a car.
Learnt so much there!! Thanks
Max in the same car as Lewis would be an amazing race I think max could win
I don not think it will be a close match even... Max would dominate
Max would destroy Lewis
@@sudharshanabhi Lewis matched peak Fernando Alonso (coming off of 2 championships) in his first ever season. I think lately he might have relaxed a bit because he knows Bottas can't match him, but having someone like Verstappen as a teammate would push him even further, because he thrives under pressure. As an example look at the 2018 season where he beat Vettel despite the Ferrari being marginally better. Lewis and Max would be immensely close, but I don't think either would 'destroy' the other.
@@badarkhan7471 Bruh don't compare Alonso with Hamilton! They were equal on points yes! But it was entire Mclaren against Alonso that season. The other seasons from 2010-13 he consistently beat Hamilton with a below average car. Alonso's racecraft is second to none! Max is close to him in that regards. Having said that, It's not fair to compare Hamilton to compare with the Spinmaster! Vettel was and will always remain an average driver! Hamilton is way better than Seb anyday! But the current grid Max is goddamn genius! I mean look at his teammates struggling. But I kinda get your point! But I still feel Max has the slightest edge over Lewis since he's kinda had a dominant car for year's now.
@@sudharshanabhi yeah dude. Everyone is average these days smh. Dont get me started on Schumacher or Senna or Prost or Lauda, all a bunch of wankers. Max could take on all on them blindfolded if he was in a mercedes, but because he is in a red bull, which is basically slower than the safety car, he must settle for third, when he doesnt spin of track for no reason...
When everyone started saying that the car was designed for max, I immediately was like: don't think this is even true. Take for example all max his spins in practise and q, did it really seem like he enjoyed driving the car? Imo max is just a beast and u can clearly see that back in the results. Max is just that good as simple as it is.
yeah you can clearly see max finding where the limit of the car is in practice.
It looks bad in practice, but by spinning he exactly knows to what limit he can drive.
It also doesn't make any sense. He won his first race in the redbull, you really can't say it, it was designed for him at that time. People have short memories and just go along with the narrative out there.
The team clearly aren’t designing and building the base car around Verstappen, but surely as the team’s lead driver (let’s be honest, Red Bull is Verstappen’s team) he is able to steer the car’s development path towards something that will better suit him and will have the characteristics he likes in terms of driveability? And the team will want to prioritise upgrades and changes that will suit their top points scorer and maximise their ability to get results? Stands to reason that the car potentially becomes more “Verstappen’s car” as the season progresses
What driver doesn't want a car with a stable rear end? You people are ridiculous. Do you seriously think Verstappen is asking for an unstable car?
They build it from the start for max, are you that ignorant?
The fact that Verstappen won the race in a Barcelona, with only 2 hours in the car is easily overlooked. During the race Ricciardo could not match his lap times nor his tyre management. The same counts for George Russel last season. Verstappen told he especially had to learn how changes in setup affected the handling, being used to the more difficult Torro Rosso.