The new F1 2021 rules that are worrying Mercedes most
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- With so much carryover from F1's 2020 rules for 2021, it should be another Mercedes walkover, right? However, there are enough changes that have caught the attention of F1's dominant team, and some key areas it needs to put a lot of effort into - as well as new rules in place that will ultimately restrict it in some of the areas it has been able to excel in recently. As Scott Mitchell explains in this video, Mercedes probably won't trip up, but it will have to change a few things about the way it works at the very least.
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only thing merc worry about is where to put all the trophys and pole mini tires
I bet they have an indoor karting track and use those pole tires as safety barriers.
Ur not wrong... 😆
@@stevegek your reply is better than the original comment
@@stevegek ouuuch
@@stevegek you win the internet
Same thing Merc say every year: ‘we’re really worried about this year’ followed by dominating again
Yep, and we all fall for it.
Soo true
Yep almost all the time, Just like bono my tires are gone but goes faster .
Its like that one kid in class who is worried about his marks but ends up getting an A+ anyway
Sandbagging. Just like from 2016 to 2020
Mercedes be like : competitors are so close , then wins every race with 30s on others
Nah 30s is too close
More like a minute
Cool surname
@@joshsmith7521 just a happy coincidence
beacause competitors are realy close..... Merc just doing job better in all areas, incl resourse management on everyday basis
Ah, that part of the pre-season where we pretend Mercedes isn't going to dominate the entire season. A time honoured tradition.
We already had the annual "Red bull for 2021" 😂
yeah, just listen from 8:57 :D
This aged well didn't it
Big Phat Walrus I was thinking the same thing lmaoo
@@fisheatsyourhead Momentum is going well for Red Bull but still too early to call. I remember BMW in 2008 where they had a championship winning car only to throw it away mid season. I hope Red Bull will continue to keep up their development *fingers crossed*
Mercedes is like that guy from work who ask's to tag along to bowling at that last minute, then shows up with a glove and a custom ball.
Ok
Lmao. Happened to you I bet.
that's oddly specific bro
But, does he have his own bowling shoes?
@I'm just a worm Mephistopheles can be a mouthful.
Mercedes: We're very worried about the car this season.
*Mercedes dominates the first race and finishes 1-2
& HAMILTHON clutches his 8th title....
2023 seat: still HAMILTHON & BOTAS
That will happen
Hamilton wants those double didgits
@@NextGeneration9501 Yeah no, it will probably 2022- Hamilton and bottas
*Russell
Mercedes is fine, Bottas survived Imola with his floor missing
Rather, the opposite. Had an additional piece of Ferrari floor.
@@SoudipanMaity That makes it even more impresive that he finished 2nd.
@@filipaxelsson3262 LMAOOOO
Would have been worse if Max had finished, but Mercedes are lucky and smart I guess
@@Faye_01712 that's what strategist for
Bullshit. Mercedes will still have a second of gap at the start of the season.
No not true it will only be 8/10s at the first race then be increased to a full second at the following races lol
I'm not so sure. Mercedes will undoubtedly still be the team to beat, but without the DAS system, the gap will likely close down to what it was during 2019.
@@huracanmedia1661 stop capping it will be 0.75 seconds that will later increase to a second and they will stop development after the first 2 races
@@ethanburdett2851 The end of 2019, though, not the beginning when Ferrari was running an illegal engine.
@@ethanburdett2851 Mercedes never used the DAS system during races. Only in VSC/SC conditions. Basically, they rarely used DAS.
They’ll win anyway 🙄
Are you sure about that
@@stefnik2904 its fucking mercedes of course they will
no ferrari will win!
Idk think about it, Red Bull always come very close to Mercedes towards the very end of the season, and since the 2021 cars are bassicaly cars carried over from last year, Red Bull already has all of that development from last year that got them within that gap towards Mercedes. I may be a bit over ambitious but I'm hopeful!
@@sollar5188 Need to keep in mind that Merc basically stopped developing their car for the last ⅓ of the season... Will be interesting to see if they push the boat out far again this season
Mercedes : We are worried about this season
Also Mercedes : Proceeds to make a car 2 seconds faster than any other car on the grid
lol, they are worried the competition is within 1 second of them and they are not finishing races with the competition 40 seconds behind. It has basically become a show of how merc can gap the whole field
Mercedes always wants to hype us into thinking they'll stop dominating
Yep but no ones buying into that game anymore 😒. Everyone should be better prepared this season
@@valerierodger7700 they also have very deep pockets lol
@@valerierodger7700 seriously dude stfu it was a joke.
@@valerierodger7700 VERY true. But to me they come off as (quietly) cocky and overconfident at times; Lewis especially. And Granted. They've earned the crown as the undisputed #1 F1 team atm and the accolades are well deserved. But EVERY dynasty in f1 has been ended at some point in time. From the McLarens, Williamses, Ferraris and Red Bulls of the world they've all been dethroned. And this season (god willing) or next it'll be either threatened or ended.
@@mr.3733 they are the FIA
alternative title: The new F1 2021 rules that are worrying Mercedes because they will dominate once again.
Yes they tryna nerf
@@carlmarcus6850 you dont saw nothing
@@istillplayroblox6952 I did
@@carlmarcus6850 bwoah joke
@@istillplayroblox6952....
I'd put James Allison in front of my house to stop flood water coming in. Sandbagging or what?!
Little known fact: Mercedes has a sandbag factory subsidiary.
Mercedes 'we're concered' is their version of Hamiltons 'Bono my tyres have gone'
hahahahahhahah. Great!
They say this every year before the season starts yet they dominate it like they’re racing against go karts.
i mean.... williams go about the same speed as go karts, so they kinda are
@@wolfpuppy23 you are wrong, they are the ferraris not the williams
I think they’ll still be on top, but if the rules allow red bull to make it harder for Mercedes and drag the championship out longer, I’ll be all for it
Remember this is the team that said Ferrari were a second clear and mercedes was 3rd after 2019 testing.
bruh.
At the time that was said it was true. They then went away and sorted their shortcomings.
Well the 2019 Ferrari engine was faster...
Merc has never shown their real pace in preseason testing while ferrari has given it 110% -hey Ferrari how has that worked out so far ?
@@huracanmedia1661 exactly
They say the same thing every year and then win nearly every race
Yeah new rules always worries them...then when the season starts, we see the result 😒
they are the FIA and now her car continues 2 seconds faster or more
Gunna stomp everyone in the first half of the season, stop developing their car by mid season and still stomp everyone by the end of the season. Once a sandbagger, always a sandbagger.
@@valerierodger7700 lol the thing that’s helped them stay on top so long is their deep pockets, not their “mindset”
@@Michael-lu2tz Deep pockets didn't help Ferrari
@@valerierodger7700 lmao
You obviously don't understand the concept of sandbagging.
@@Michael-lu2tz it's both. Money and intelligence, a perfect storm combination.
Every team is “worried” because no cars have been around a track... and that includes Mercedes. But. It speaks to the desires of “certain” spaces where F1 content is produced to forget that while other teams - especially RBR - consistently brought upgrades to their cars during the 2020 season, Toto Wolff and Allison said Mercedes devoted zero time to developing upgrades in 2020, as their entire Brackley team was devoted to -- 2021. So, while all other teams were scrambling to catch up with a year-old Mercedes (which, hopefully helps people understand why everyone in the Mercedes camp was worried about their direct competitors), Mercedes was... in the future.
Oh and the 2019 car almost finished 3rd..
@@Redskies453 It would have if it hadn't been for the penalties imposed by the FIA.
@@F1pidis Or if their drivers didn’t have covid
@@F1pidis yep. It was objectively a better car than the McLaren.
Mercedes is basically that one smart kid in your class that always afraid of getting bad grades yet he is literally the only one who pass the test in the first place and not only that he even knows something that the teacher doesn't
How can they limit CFD time when someone can do much of it off-line at home or in a private cloud.
Maybe that will be limited too? Maybe it will be like on track testing, teams can only test with older cars. This is why Sainz was testing the 2018 car at the Ferrari private testing track.
More appropriate title: "The new F1 rules that are worrying Mercedes most and the opposition that is not worrying Mercedes"
Another case of "tires are gone, guys..." to Fastest Laps.
BREAKING NEWS:
Mercedes will drive backwards this season, to allow others a chance 👀
they'll still win 🙄
4:19 really appreciate the table laying out all the info, very nice to see it put that way. And it really helps to show just how much testing the teams do!
The production value of these videos get better and better. That syncing of the 2's appearing over the 2021's syncing with the music is sublime
Imagine if they decide to go back to manual clutch transmissions with naturally aspirated engines without kers and hybrid tech they'd probably spend less on r&d
Instead of knocking down Mercedes AMG, unfortunately I suspect that the 2021 rules will instead neuter McLaren, Red Bull-Honda, and Aston Martin.
Mercedes: ‘yup, we are worried’
October: ‘aaaaand Mercedes have won the constructors’ championship agaaaaaainnnn!’
🅱️woah thats why i dont watch formula 1 anymore
@@istillplayroblox6952 Moto GP is so much better.
I think we don’t have to wait untill October to say that.
This aged well
You guys are making a great job with this rules and technical related videos.
Happy Birthday Guys. You are killing it on content. Well done 👍👍👍
“Mercedes might lose”
(Click Immediately)
And finds out they'll probably win anyway.
@@utuberme1 thats for sure
Superb job of explaining the rules changes for this coming season. Your ability to break down such technical information, so that the average fan will understand the new tech, is simply incredible.....Thank You!!!!
The content in this channel is getting better and better.
The new budget as it currently stands has an effect (to some degree) for every team ... except Williams, who were already spending less _in total_
Mercedes will dominate again like always from 2014 and Hamilton will only have to beat his average team mate Bottas to win. lets hope the new regs in 2022 fix F1 and make it amazing like 2010/2012 again
2005-2009 wasn't that bad either. But yeah definitely agree!
With an engine superior going till 2026 it's hard to believe someone will beat them.
Why doesnt F1 add a "start time" for the following year's car development? They could make it so that the teams from bottom to top can start sooner on their development.
"Mercedes brought no upgrades after Belgium"
Thats 10 races!!! They were on pole for 8 of those 10 and won 7.
Damn great video. Never knew about all these aero testing allowances (yes im a newby)
I remembered watching a clip on Sky Sports F1 talking about the W11. The upcoming W12 will have restrictions that prevents it from being as fast as the W11.
Every car on the field will be slower than 2020, so it's ultimately not a net loss for Mercedes
@@JustSomeGuyWithNoMaidens what about the ferrari? they have now a better engine, so why do you say that?
@@istillplayroblox6952 Because the aero regulations apply to all cars to reduce downforce levels. Assuming the regulations work as intended, the cars should overall be slower initially until teams work out how to claw back the lost downforce over a season. So even with a stronger power unit, Ferrari will still be a mid field team. They won't make any significant gains compared to their rivals.
The "Mercedes or Hamilton saying they're worried" is getting quite old.
It's nothin but a game they've played over the years. I think this season however their in for a rude awakening
@@mr.3733 it's their mindset. They never rest on their laurels, they are always focused on what they didn't get right and how they can improve.
I've heard Mercedes and Hamilton be worried about a new season every season since 2014. I'll believe it when I sees it.
If you’re not worried about what lies ahead you’ll never be the best.
You spoke for the whole and was waiting for the things Mercedes is worried about🤷🏾♂️ this must have been the intro video.
out of pure curiosity, how do you end up getting this footage of the teams?
The Ferrari master 🅱️lan to get more time in the wind tunnel
Hi I am talking to you from after pre-season testing they look bad for the season!!!! Do not lose courage
Makes me wonder if the closer tie-in between Mercedes and Williams is a way around the ATR restrictions.
Damn, good point!
i want to know will hamilton sign for merc in 2021
p.s i want GEORGE to race for the mercs
Russell at merc = a great season
I think he signed already BCS it's already clear(I THINK)
Hamilton is basically guaranteed at merc
@@xdgamerz101 not signed but he will most likely sign soon. Most stuff have already been agreed.
@@aldogjipali2835 he already signed
So, I’m curious.
What’s to stop Mercedes from using customer teams with excess Wind Tunnel and CFD time to do some work for them ?
( Especially Williams with the new enhanced technical agreement )
Mercedes say the same shit every year and the same happens every year
Do all the teams now have their own dedicated wind tunnels? How do they monitor how many runs they're doing?
Is this worry in the sense of "Bono my tyres are going off" or actual worrying?
I think it’s the later cuz they will probably spend most of there time devolping next seasons midfielder (what I think is going to happen in 2022)
@@camostrike4395 I don't think Mercedes will screw up the 2022 regulations. Red Bull for example didnt screw up 2014. It was Renault, which made poor engines. Mercedes has a brilliant aero and chassis department and they have the best engine, so I wouldn't count them out at all, but I think, that other teams like Red Bull and Aston Martin could maybe do a step upwards.
@@PaulPunk23LP count the ferraris
Mercedes is like that one geek in school that always says he don't know anything, and always gets A or 5
you know you’re Serbian when you say 5 as a grade ahahahah
If something worries mercedes, that means it needs to be done.
Spoiler: Mercedes will win drivers and constructors championship
Thr FIA messed up after the 2014 season, back then they could've easily stopped Mercedes domination by allowing development of the engines freely, Mercedes would have had much more difficulties pushing more while others will catch up very fast.
In 2014 there was no Mercedes domination. So you mean the FIA were supposed to predict the future...
@@pectenmaximus231 yeah. when you whack new rules in you should consider their impact. if a team producing a massively complex engine had a big headstart (not hard to imagine) also had a huge budget, then with limited pre-season testing, no in-season testing & harsh engine penalties around re-use, it should have been inevitable that the 2014 leader could dominate.
Merc have stopped developing each season's car so early they've had months of a head-start ever since.
FIA clearly doesn't want the dominantion to stop, otherwise they would do the same thing they did to ferrari in 2005
@@pectenmaximus231 what do you mean there was no domination in 2014?
Video suggestion explain why it is so hard to keep an f1 car’s from spinning and why some drivers struggle. Im talking along the lines of the weight distribution
Best off season content!
Agree
1000%
FIA: we won’t the sport to not just be won by Mercedes
Mercedes: ha ha ha...NO
because they are the FIA
Ah! yes yes yes they're worrying from past 5'years.
The results of the budget and ATR caps would be interesting to nitpick.
The viewership would probably just see: X team brings updates to a car, no it doesn’t work. Or just outright less updates from what we’re used to from teams like Mercedes or RB.
I think how team implements Ground Effects and aero will determine how well they do with the new rules. Last time Merc fully applied ground effects went terribly wrong (CLK-LM & CLR).
@Charlie Robertson yeah, thats why I said NEW rules...I ment 2022. Merc are gonna win in 2021; thats a given. In 2022, ground effect will play a big part on the aero side
They did plenty of on track testing for the 2021 rear aero during that tire test..
Everyone will be challenged, but until real world qualifying and race will show whose development is good and whose is better.
He meant 2022* technical rules at 9:40
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Aston Martin (Racing Point) also bring in their final updates fairly early last year giving them more time to work on the 2021 car 🧐🤔
I’m just hoping that Williams get their cars back up to the midfield.
Eventually
the background music is actually catchy
Kay
The thing I don't understand with all this price cap stuff.
Why aren't any teams setting up "F1 consultancy" companies who do all the work but charge the actual F1 team a minimal fee whilst getting the funding in some other rule bending way such as sponsorship or bonuses.
The most important thing you said is that Mercedes stopped development all the way back in August. This allows them to do a chunk of 2021 development without the 2021 restrictions. Plus, developing parts to bring to testing is expensive. Not following the rest with fielding 2021 parts during testing just kept more money on their pockets. Nice.
the majority of the top teams are already working on their 2022 challengers for almost 3 years now.. ( bar the dev freeze for the cars installed in 2020) the freeze got lifted on 1st of January 2021, so i think last season all top teams put in the effort to produce upgrades and updates for this season so they can focus 100% of the dev on the 2022 car.. not meaning we wont see any in-season updated but i think they will be limited because this is an interim year.. there is going to be little change unfortunatly
Which is why Merc started on their 2021 now to be 2022 car very early to circumvent this new rule limiting CFD and wind tunnel time.
That shot at 9:37 really shows how crazy F1 aero has become. It looks like a Michael Bay era Decepticon
There won't be any change to who the titles go to...
But l am confident and keen to see closer racing.
Hi, i'm from Post Pre-season Testing👋
Even the editor couldn't find enough footage of Mercedes engineers looking very worried or shaking their heads to give us a bit of hope lol
These new rules are really smart, can't wait to see how this plays out.
So it's still just a question of whether they're going to be 50 or 150 points ahead come mid-season.
Usually rules to try to make things more competitive, and therefore more entertaining, never work as intended, and one team still dominates. I expect that to be the case in 2022!
Keep pumping videos im a f1 fien 😭
Is R&D also limited per year to keep with the budget cap?
Can’t teams put any of their surplus to research into the next season?
Good effort, James would be proud
How to exploit gray areas : Mercedes " we going to deploy some of the staff to Ineos , our partner , problem solved " Budget caps solved.
The wind tunnel reductions won't really affect Mercedes. With Mercedes and Williams now forming a close technical partnership, the added wind tunnel runs for williams will only aid Mercedes. I think th biggest issue for them is the budget cap. But they'll easily find the loop hole, so can't imagine 2021 results will be too different from 2020.
Merc is worried
After the very first race
: “Get in there Lewis”
Why does Merc feel like Audi at Le Mans with 10 wins in 11 years, but there's absolutely no chance of it ending :(
How does limiting CFD time, makes sense when it comes to budget cap, unless Mercedes have supercomputers ?? I can understand when it comes to wind tunnel testing..
It seems like a lot but we'll see in Testing
Appear weak when you're strong - Sun Tzu
true
how do they know that each team is sticking to the limts on wind tunnels and CFD?
Provided the budget cap is implemented in 2022 mercedes still has a better budget to work with all these years these improvements in engine and aero understanding can be equaled by any other team so it will remain the same. As other teams will be able to advance at the same pace as mercedes i don't see it improving the pecking order anytime soon.
Mercedes fool us by saying they are worried. Then they dominate again.
their worry is why they dominate.
@@louiscypher4186 because they are the FIA or no?
Aero limiting means teams like ferrari and renault and mclaren too can gain on merc
Would have been far easier to limit the number of data acquisition sensors permitted on board of race cars. Teams will have many ways to hide their costs by relocating staff to invisible locations.
1:09 - Budget Cap
3:56 - Less Aero Time
7:04 - Aero Changes
Honestly think you could start both mercs in last place in every race and they would still challenge for the constructors. Where is Bernie Ecclestone when you need him? He would have knocked this shit on its head years ago
Believe absolutely nothing anyone employed by Mercedes has to say about the possibility of them not continuing to dominate F1.
A short view to the past:
In 2017 pre-season merc were cocky then in season they "struggled"
2020 pre-season merc downplayed then they dominated