Hello @DIY Audio Guy They are pretty sweet and definitely has good conductivity with low resistance. They will definitely be eye candy to your setup as well.
I think your review has convinced me to purchase this little guy. Ive been sitting on the fence about it but seeing your voltage on just a stock alternator and an xspower front battery has me sold. I have a 370amp jsalternator and an xspower d4800 under the hood. Great video and subscribed!
Hello @Josh Paul I was just like you and than I pulled the trigger and purchased it and ever since my voltage and my bass has been sounding awesome! Let me know how it works for you, and i appreciate the feedback. You have a pretty solid power setup for your vehicle already.
I have a d4800 with a 400A elite, been debating on this too. My ALT cold startup charges at 15.2V though so I'm thinking that could hurt this little battery
I was looking at these batteries myself. I will have a 320A alt and a xs 3400 agm. My amp is a 2k you think i will be good with jus a xs3400 and 320A alt? Jus thought people saying a lithium in parallel with battery agm will draw the lithium down. Thanks
Hello @Johnny piper I think for a single 2k amplifier you will be fine with your 320a alternator and a D3400 AGM battery. Having more reserve is never to much especially when you have future upgrades trust me!
@@synaudio9778hey I have dual runs of zero gauge wire from positive front battery to positive LTO but only 1 negative zero gauge run from negative to negative and I see my voltage is not holding up not even nearly as good as yours. Should I match it up meaning running another zero gauge wire from negative to negative?
Hello @Joe Thank you I appreciate the positive feedback. I would definitely give this battery a try; it has definitely helped me with voltage drop issues I was having before. Let me know how it works for you.
I have been sold since i first laid eyes on this baby beast I’m just trying to pull the money up to gat it and the charger 6 and some change last I checked .My day will come soon I hope 🙏🏾 Thanks for sharing,Maryland showing ❤
so what i am hearing is i dont need to upgrade my alternator if i have the lto and a upgraded agm battery if hes running over 6k. I am only wanting like 3-4k watts.
Yes you should be ok with an upgraded AGM main battery and an LTO for your build if you’re aiming for 4k. Let me know how it works for you. Thanks, SYNAUDIO
Hello, damn some cold weather out there in Michigan! The lowest it gets here in California is 31 so far this year and I haven’t had any issues with it so far. It is my first winter running this battery but I hope having it in my trunk will help prevent any issues with weather. Enjoy your battery come back and let me know your experience! Thank you, SYNAUDIO
I have a Milwaukee drill that has a 6ah 18v battery could this possibly be the same 6ah battery placed in a different battery box and then charged over 4 times as much for? 🤔
Hello @Matt Jones lol I know what you mean and I would be curious to see if anyone has tried running some Milwaukee and Dewalt batteries to help their sound system. But so far my experience has been great and the little foot print and small weight addition has helped my car build. There’s a few other lithium battery options out there with more AH but some more expensive as well. Thank you for your support.
Unfortunately, all this showed was you're not running a ton of power. That LTO was not helping there at all and would not start helping until you dropped to it's resting voltage. Anything above that is all alternator just as your XS power would not supply any reserve until you dropped into the 12's past it's resting voltage. I have no doubt the JP battery is good but you need more power to actually utilize it. Nice set up btw.
Hello @Flexin Five Hundred Just want to start off by saying that I understand why you think I’m not running enough power to drop voltage on my battery. Prior to installing the LTO 6.0 I was dropping to the low 13s and noticing that the bass would gradually drop off after playing heavy bass and once I installed this battery I maintain in the 14s. Thank you for your input and I appreciate you liking my current setup. I understand that there’s always room for improvement and I’m open minded to feedback from everyone.
Hello Basshead 419 I will post more videos about my build, is there anything your interested in showing? That’s a pretty great setup I’m sure your fiesta is slapping pretty hard with your setup!
Hello, yes that is always an option to run dual power runs from the alternator to the battery. I currently just have one due to having my stock alternator. There is no such thing as overkill on having extra wire runs like you mentioned. The more the better. Thank you.
was told if i hook up from front battery and not at it want charge right n it would draing the agm. i have no space to run from alt its factory 150a alt
Seen in another comment you said you have a 500amp fuse on 1/0? You need a smaller fuse my brother, fuses are rated to the cable and how much power the cable can handle. So for example 1/0 would be about 3-350amps before it melts itself, and that's why you have the fuse!
Hello @Dyl Thanks for correcting me on that last comment. I have a double run of 1/0 cables going from my front battery to the rear battery, and they are, in fact, “300amp” fuses on my fuse holder. I should have took my time to reply to the other user’s comment and verify what size I actually had; I will edit my comment and hopefully he reads it. I admit I make mistakes myself, but I like to share only correct information with my audience, and I appreciate you bringing it to my attention as I was wrong. So basically, I don't have any fuses larger than 300amp on my setup.
@Dyl, I appreciate your support, and I hope to bring you and everyone else good content to watch and learn together. Thanks for subscribing and sharing your knowledge with the rest of us, as we're all still learning.
How's the lifespan in if its in freezing Temps and extreme heat sitting in my car all day while I'm at work? Or do these batteries require more care than I would care to give them?
Hello @Jbortega I did see that Gately has some amps now; I saw Steve Meade do a review on the beast GI-5700D Monoblock amp, which overperformed the rated RMS rating. Thanks for supporting my channel. SYNAUDIO
I live about an hour and a half from Sacramento, and I haven't purchased any of Gatley’s enclosures, but they look high quality and well-made. I think for the price and convenience, they are a good choice, but you need to make sure they are in spec for what you're looking for, depending on the frequency and subs you will be loading into the enclosures. I enjoy making my enclosures, but it can be pretty time-consuming, and some people, they don't want to deal with all the hassle. I would try the Gately enclosures, as I know they have a good reputation for all their products.
Your system looks 🔥 how's that Lto 6.0 lithium working out for ya? Have you had to put it on a charge? Been really thinking about either getting 1 of those d4s 6.0 lithiums or 1 of the jy power nvx 2kf hybird cap. Jus wasn't sure if it was ok to come off my front agm battery then to the lithium then to my amp without having a isolator inline to separate the agm and lithium while my truck is off. Do you have any problems occurring since you have been having your for a bit now? Thanks alot keep bumbin my dude👊🔊💨💨
Thank you for your kind words, so far, no issues and I've had it now for over a year now. No since the day I received and charged it before installing I haven't had to charge the battery again. I currently don't have an isolator for my batteries, and I have not run into any issues. I believe the way they designed this battery as a supplemental battery has been quiet a success. Every day I'm bumping my system and enjoying my daily. SYNaudio
@@synaudio9778what's up dude, how has your d4s lto been doing? I'm finally about to get my system installed and I ended up going with a xs d series agm to replace my stock lead acid battery under my hood instead of the xs titan 8 s5. I have a mechman 370 amp alt and my amp is gonna be a 2.5k. I was gonna see how my voltage is with the big agm and get 1 of those d4s LTO if needed. I heard people say you need an isolator an heard you don't lol. How long have you been having your lto and have you had any issues without having a isolator? Does your voltage stay in the 14s while at full tilt? Those little batteries seem pretty legit and heard alot of people bashing them but most that bash prolly never ever had one and jus regurgitate what they hear from others lol. Thanks afor the help 🙏
Hello @Gorilla Soulja Here’s the link for those beautiful copper distro attachments. www.down4soundshop.com/4-spot-copper-d4s-battery-distro-block-1-0-awg-input/
Hello @Samuel Lopes That's crazy cold! I'm not sure what the temperature rating for this little beast is, but if you reach out to their children's customer support team, they can give you some more info. Good luck and bass on!!! SYNAUDIO
Hello @Phi Mobile Sounds I am not using a battery isolator on my current setup. It is not required to have a battery isolator but if you would like to add one for your setup I don’t think it would be a bad idea. I haven’t had any issues with mine without an isolator but an isolator would most likely help when I need to work on my system by cutting power to the rear battery. Thanks for watching, SYNAUDIO
@titoham-DCXLs solid info. Thank you for the help. It's a Jeep Wrangler alternator that's been modified by singer. I'd imagine I could by pass the TIPM (which controls the voltage regulation) & run 2/0 with a 500 amp fuse on the line, straight to my lithium & from the the lithium to the distribution block so it can spread power out to all my amps. I'm new to this lithium world. That really shows my age. I remember back when 2000 watt amps were big & powerful back in my day
@@synaudio9778 bet I’m thinking about getting the 15ah charger that u got for it but I might go with that 12v from down4sound just for cheaper been spending a lot on the system
How many of these would i need for a 12k system and 370 h.o.? People keep telling me to buy yinglong batteries and build my own battery but I have mixed feelings about that
Hello Edmond, I'm not sure exactly how many of the little guys you would need for your system but from my experience, going overkill on your electrical is actually a good thing. I would say possibly 4 of these would get the job done. I feel the same way, and since I'm still inexperienced in building my own, I will buy batteries that are tested and pre-built as of now. Thank you for your support, SYNaudio
@@synaudio9778 I read mixed reactions on these batteries some love them some say they’re bs batteries. From what I seen from your video and someone else’s video these lil things hold it down when it come to battery power. I plan on getting 4 of these batteries or the limitless cyber 12k. I do like the idea of several batteries working instead of 1. Thanks 🙏
You will always get good and bad reviews and sometimes amplifiers, batteries, and other products come defective. My review is my own opinion and so far I’m satisfied and enjoy buying what makes me happy. I like to be honest and help others after all I’m not being paid to advertise JPs products but he’s definitely changing the game with a lot of his new products. I hope your system turns out great and I would love to see a video of it someday. If you ever get the chance send me a link to see your final setup im curious how it turns out with that big 12k!
No rush, the bigger the system the more time needed to ensure everything is wired and running properly after tuning your amps. I will be waiting and have fun building it as the reward will be worth it!
Hello @rogelio I’m not completely sure you can run two of these LTO 6.0s batteries with out a main battery due to low “6 amp hours” they are rated at. I currently have a Xspower d3400 that has an 80ah rating which is more than enough to turn my car on. If I find any more info I will reply back to you. Thank you for supporting my channel.
Hello @cocotaso101 The battery charger I use to charge my my lithium battery is this one, www.down4soundshop.com/down4sound-d4s-chg-8a-12v-lithium-charger/ Thats a lithium battery charger which I got directly from the down4sound shop.
Hello @Kevin Charles I build my own personal enclosures to my preference depending what frequency I’m looking to achieve and airspace needed for my subwoofer. If your looking to get a high quality subwoofer enclosure that’s ready to ship to your home I would look up Gatley Audio out of Sacramento CA.
@Kevin Charles if you were local here in California I would have been more than happy to build you an enclosure for your setup, but see what they have to offer on their website. Prefab enclosures are a good option to save money but a good quality enclosure with no air leaks and designed to play your favorite frequency would be your best option.
Hello @Dwan163 Do you by any chance know what could have been the issue? Did you charge it once it arrived to your house with a lithium charger? Also you can always check your grounds and other connections to make sure the charge is flowing from your front battery to the LTO 6.0 .
Hello @Almightyycres I’ve had the batter now for 10 months and it’s holding up great and given me no issues. I’m planning on April on doing a one year review and hopefully share with everyone that it’s a reliable battery. I believe as long as it is a “lithium battery charger” you should be good. Just make sure your charger is in the right mode if it has that option. Thank you for supporting my channel.
@@synaudio9778 I most likely will be getting two. I just got my 370mp alternator in so 0 gauge power and ground and two of these are the next and last upgrade. But I'm honestly a little scared of them cause I'm well aware how violent lithium battery fires can be and I don't have full knowledge about the quality of these batteries. They will be an in enclosed cargo tray with fans for circulation
@Almightycres Trust me your not alone on questioning lithium batteries as we’ve all heard the horrific stories of cars catching fire. But my experience has been a positive one and that living through hot summers and cold winters here in California. Your alternator will definitely give you a more solid voltage with these two LTO 6.0s! Mine are not enclosed and are vented but just be careful and make sure if you have a fan that you always turn it on unless you will have it automatically to turn on with your car. If you can let me know how your setup turns out. Thank you.
@@synaudio9778 can't wait to hear your 1yr review of them. I might get the battery terminals you have, I'll be laying my batteries down so my question is. Are those terminals small enough to not protrude past the battery width wise? So I'd have mine rotated 90 degrees compared to the thumbnail pic on the video. If they do protrude, how much?
@AlmightyyCres Those copper battery terminals do not protrude the width of the battery, they should be able to lay on their side no problem just depending how you adjust the terminals. On its side with the terminals facing up I’d say maybe 1/4 to half inch. I’m not to sure as mine are facing inward. You could always give their sales team at down4sound a call to get you the exact measurements.
Hello @Freddie Garza What device are you using to charge your LTO? Make sure to use a lithium battery charger, doesn’t necessarily need to be the D4S charger. When I full charged mine I believe it reached over 14v before the battery charger told me it was ready to use. Let me know what charger your using.
@SYNaudio Well was supposed to get D4S LITHIUM BATTERY CHARGER. BUT Dow4sound never sent it my package. Now there not answering the phone. Nor returning my messages. I paid over one hundred dollars for it. Now I don't know what to do. It's like they don't believe me or something. I sent them a lot of pictures showing the box it came in. The box is only big enough for the battery. And the battery is real small. So now I'm stuck. But I do have a deep cycle battery charger. Will that work you think. Sorry explaining myself to you. On what happened. Have a wonderful day.
I could understand your frustration as in some of my previous purchases their has been some discrepancies on my items received, but when I’ve reached out they’ve always been helpful. Not sure if they are possibly short handed at the moment that their isn’t someone to answer your call? But don’t get discouraged, your a customer and they should work on making sure your satisfied with your purchase. Maybe give them a try again Monday morning?
I have a mechman 400, I’m going to run a salt 4 and 2 sfb 500.4s. I’m going to see how long one can last but it looks like I’m going to be good with just one, thanks for the quick review
@titoham-DCXLs hush up little guy I’m telling you what my voltage is with my 2 salt 200.4s, my sfb 500.4, my salt 4 and my tweeter amp is at when it’s at a 7 on the volume with this battery and my 2xs powers. If you could afford the setup you’d see when it drops down to 14.5-14.6
@titoham-DCXLs Keep talking to yourself idiot😂 I’m sure a internet warrior that can’t even afford my bass amp knows what all of my volt meters read at full tilt
I have a 2018 Camry. Trying to run a 10” zv6 on a jp23, with a jp84 for mids. What electrical upgrades would you recommend from start? Or more of a once I start seeing my voltage drop go from there.
Hello @LennIE By far the best electrical upgrade you can do to your car is getting yourself a Big 3 Kit which will help get your voltage supply from your alternator to your battery more efficiently. The second thing to upgrade if you haven’t already is your stock battery, maybe an XSPOWER AGM or a lithium supplemental battery can help with reserve for the heavy bass notes. Since both amplifiers combined will be pulling close to 3000w it’s important to have even a double run of 0g ofc wires to the back of your vehicle to have sufficient voltage when needed. I would recommend to do a few of these at a time till you don’t see to much voltage drop while playing music under heavy load. Hope this helps. SYNAUDIO
@@synaudio9778 awesome appreciate this. Yeah I was looking at alternators and d4s has em but they’re custom made $599 so rather try to get away with other things before I commit too upgrade alt. I had a Tahoe on 2 comp r 15s and my lights used to dim like crazy do not want that for my “newer car”. And please if there’s anyway you can do like a ohms law for dummies. I cannot wrap my head around the OHMs for car audio. I just learned about OHMs in electrical school and i just can’t get it. Thanks appreciate all the info
@LennIE, I understand what you mean, and there is no wrong way to start upgrading your electrical system for your car as long you're actually doing it. It takes power to make power and if you decided to upgrade alternator first there's nothing wrong with that. Are you asking about ohms for when you're wiring your speakers (Subs)? Don't worry it takes time to learn all this information, I'm still learning as I go, and I've been doing this for three years lol.
@LennIE, I will share with you a link to a great video which can help you understand wiring your speakers but with some good demonstrations. I know this can be a bit confusing but also quite simple once you know how wiring works. You will need to get yourself a multimeter with the DC option and Ohms to work around your car and get your wiring done right. th-cam.com/video/jryFmICR4qA/w-d-xo.html
After those 3 months you didn't have to take it out and check battery life or recharge it? Contemplating buying one since they supply so much more power by doing basically nothing. Do you have the big 3 done as well? My sequoia has 150amp alternator but at idle I only get 13.5-13.8. Probably old weak rusty ground somewhere or the alt is tired. Bottom mount alt so I'm not screwing with it. To tight. Thanks again
Hello @dean koski The time that I’ve had the LTO 6.0 I’ve never had to take it out of my car to recharge it, but if for some reason it needed to be recharged I could always use the D4s charger while it’s still in my trunk. I do have the big 3 done on my car which has helped with better voltage. I might be wrong, but I believe your voltage might sit a little higher with this battery since it’s lithium, but I can be wrong. I still believe this battery would be a great upgrade for your setup. Thanks again, SYNAUDIO
Bro I just changed my alt on my 02 sequioa it's easy man but I think it's a 120 or 130 not 150 at least the one I got. My alternator died and I needed one because it's my daily I'm getting a js alt ho for a build.
@Drago 710 couldn't get 1 last bolt off my skid plate forever so access to alt was poor. I recently installed some 2/0 welding cable directly from alt to rear bank. Works plenty well now. Have you tried the fuse diode trick yet!?!? Swap out the alternator s fuse in the fuse box with a gm fuse with a diode in it. Tricks into charging a full volt higher. Be careful when 40 degrees or colder. Was charging at 15.05 cold cold in freezing weather. Agm no like over 14.8😅
Its holding up like quiet well which makes me happy it was money well spent. Once I get done with this semester, I will make a short update video on voltage and how its holding up. Thank you!
Hello @Jason Lassiter The battery does come with a pair of m6 screws. On my copper adapters I did have to use a few washers since my screws were a little to long. I could always buy smaller ones but at the moment I haven’t got around to it.
One of the biggest ripoffs in car audio bar none. 6ah for $500 is laughable. High C rating but lacks reserve. Has nothing to do with the brand it's just facts. Can do 40ah Yinlong which is 5x more powerful for less.
Hello @Dibeezy ThaGifted Your right there is other brands and batteries that have better reserve than this battery. I guess it’s just preference just like any other consumer items. Thanks again and if someone wants to see the battery your talking about can you please place the link so they can find it? Thank you, SYNAUDIO
So with that being said...if your dropping hella voltage which would u need more of?....reserve or higher C rating? I have a mechman 240a alt, AGM 3400 under hood and Cyber 6K in back. With 2 X-12 and Salt 4K im still dropping low 12s at full tilt. I was about to upgrade to a cyber 12K but i saw these. I'd figure I'd start with one D4S LTO and see how the voltage holds then. If it holds or improves i would buy a 2nd one.
Hello @Ron Mackie I do currently have 2 amplifiers that I’m running in my car one for my mids and one for my lows. Mids 1,600 wrms Amp- 150Amp fuse. Lows 4,900 wrms Amp- 350Amp fuse. Hope this helps, SYNAUDIO.
Hello Vincel, I am not using a battery isolator for my lithium battery, it is not required I guess it comes down to preference. I haven’t had any issues with running it this way.
@hooptastic_hippie 852 You are correct the D4S LTO 6.0 was designed to work specifically as a supplemental battery with other 12v batteries. I should have been more specific in my response. Thanks for advice and supporting my channel.
Hello super qaib, Here’s the link for the battery battery distro block. www.down4soundshop.com/4-spot-copper-d4s-battery-distro-block-1-0-awg-input/ I’m not one hundred percent sure but I would give a good guess that it would hold 2,600-3,000 watts with a 100 amp alternator. On their website for the battery they say a 120amp alternator will hold 3,000 watts. Hope this helps. Thank you, SYNAUDIO
I think I’m going to pick one up too. I have a mechman billet 370 alternator, an odyssey extreme AGM under hood, and an ioxus uc-31 at the moment. My voltage holds up pretty well with a JP23v2 on an SSA Evil 15 and a JP84 on the mids/highs but not quite as well as yours does! I think this battery would put the icing on the cake for my setup.
I have that sub in my ride but the difference is my sub box is smaller and has a 6 inch areo port which is way better vs your permit turning. You need another sub box bro asap just saying that sub is for low end sub boxes only not for spl which you have. but i am getting that batt most likely 5 of them
Hello @_1_ I agree, this box is 4.75 air cubic ft internally and tuned to 32hz which was designed for my old Sundown 15 XV.2; I decided to reuse my enclosure momentarily while I design and make a new one. You won’t be disappointed with these L-Batteries I currently just have one but I’m planning on running 3 in the future. Thanks for supporting my channel and your observations.
I am still running the stock 150amp alternator with a big 3 on it and haven’t had any issues with my electrical system. I currently have a 3 year old XSPOWER D3400 under the hood. This little battery will definitely help your electrical. Thanks for your support SYNAUDIO
Hello @Nathaniel Rodriguez You know everyone has the right to their own opinion but at times people dislike a product just because of the successful person behind the product or company. No problem hope you enjoyed it and I hope to bring some more content soon to keep my channel growing and getting bass-heads together in my channel.
Real world testing wold be the battery sitting in a vehicle for 50+ hours a week while the vehicle is in direct sunlight and below freezing temps year round. This test shows optimal conditions. Is it any good in a daily driver experiencing extreme Temps year round? My xs power d3400 is still fine after experiencing those extremes for seven years now.
hey man am I supposed to run positive and negative wire from the the main battery to the lto or just the positive one and ground wire somewhere in the back?
@@chrisluvsuDepends on your wire size. And if it’s OFC or CCA. You can find the info online just google it. There’s a chart that’ll show you how many amps u need depending on wire and length
Hi,just came across this vid today..some questions if You don't mind answering 1.is Your alternator stock?,if so whats it's amplege? 2.what amplifier are You using for the sub? 3.have You ever charged it with external charger,or just by the alty? Thanks in advance
Hello @V Power Electrix My alternator is stock and my Ford Focus ST does come with a 150amp alternator. For my sub I got a Deaf Bonce AAB 4900.1 D amplifier. Before installing the LTO 6.0 I did charge it with a lithium charger prior to installing it to my car. No problem hopefully I answered all your questions and thanks for supporting my channel.
Im getting 2 of these, i have a 320 amp js alternators alt, but i get crazy voltage spikes, i sent it back for work, they replaced the regulator etc, and voltage still goes up to 15 16 even saw 17.5 v, so i plan to return it and run 2 of those batteries on my stock alternator, should be 120 amp and with 2 ill get 6k watts out of it apparently
Hello @Yeah thats Los You can find these copper adapters on down4sound.com I will place the link below for the item. Thank you for supporting my channel. www.down4soundshop.com/4-spot-copper-d4s-battery-distro-block-1-0-awg-input/
My main battery is in the trunk. I currently have the main battery ground and amp grounded to the chassis in the same spot. Can I also ground this lithium battery to that same spot?
Hello @Cory Binion That’s the same question I asked myself before JP from D4S made a Q&A about these lithium batteries but this battery is was designed to work as a supplemental battery with AGM. I have had my D4S LTO 6.0 in my car for over 6 months with no issues. I would recommend this battery and you won’t be disappointed. Hope my video helped with voltage drop demonstration.
You're not suppose to. Agm resting voltage is 12.6, as he showed that battery is 13.2. That lto will try to raise the agm to 13.2 so if the car sits for too long, the lto will drain down to the agm resting voltage.
Did you do double runs of negative from front to rear? I've been seeing and hearing people doing this but I've always been told that there just needs to be grounded to the vehicle closest to the battery. What's your opinion or knowledge of this situation? Thanks!
Hello @Tony Foley I did not do a double run of negative cables from the front to the back of my car but I do have two grounds on each battery to help with any issues possible. I haven’t had any issues running my setup with only the grounds at the batteries. That’s a good question and although I can’t give you the best answer since there’s things I’m still learning, but as long as your not having any issues with your batteries charging or losing voltage I think you should be ok. Thank you, for supporting my channel.
Just make sure you prep your grounds the bare metal before placing your grounds. I always put a little spray of clear coat over the grounds and around the are to prevent any rust.
how much current are you pulling from the D4S LTO 6.0 battery, you ever measure it? if you were pulling full 5000W, that would probably be ~500A+.....? i am curious what current that battery can actually support. did you compare with/without the D4S LTO 6.0 in there?
Hello @JohnnyOhh-yt That’s actually a great question. I’ve never actually measured how much current I’m pulling out of my LTO 6.0. For my subwoofer amp I’m Running a 5k but in reality it might be closer to 4k RMS on my single ZV6 15”. I am using an SMD 300amp ANL fuse. My mids are at 200 RMS WHICH IS 800 watts total. Using a 150amp Anl fuse I believe. I never did a comparison test with or without the LTO 6.0 but prior to installing the secondary supplemental battery my voltage with the same setup was dropping down to low 13.10-13.30volts on a single Xs-Power D3400 AGM battery. I’m happy so far with my dual battery setup I currently have as my voltage stays above 14Vs which is great for my 150amp stock alternator. Hoped this info helps, and that I answered your question. If I were to increase my power in the future I would like to run two of these hands down. Thank you, SYNAUDIO
@titoham-DCXLs well it will work find for those with stock alt an around 1500. Which will help keep voltage up less stress on all. Good to know but I would think it wouldnt actually support 200amp .
who's arguing lol geesh. I made a observation. yet no one recommended anything . your defensive about a statement that wasn't directed. I said since it want handle 200amp. so since am around 1500wats not clamping that fir sure so will it Hadel 100amps.
@titoham-DCXLs so why all the extra did I say anything about a test all u giving is rants with no help if u go rant and point fingers give a solution and never say I argue . I that I was replied like a adult I gave what I thought I don't know what u do or ask . since u gave reason I said what I said. nor di mad I bash u or call u a liar. why so defensive. and defensive with out a solution
Help Joe, I will have to take a look at that battery thanks for the feedback. For now I will enjoy my LTO 6.0 but im always looking for new stuff. Thank you, SYNAUDIO
Hello Barry Louis Frasier, The D4S LTO 6.0 can support from 3000-5000 depending on the alternator. With a 200amp alternator I’d say it would probably help with anywhere close to 3,500-4,200 watts. You can always find more info on the battery directly on their website where they have some good info prior to purchase. The Big 3 upgrade is a must, especially when you want the most amount of flow from your alternator to your batteries. Hope this helps if not I could always send you the link to the item. Thanks SYNAUDIO
i like that it’s small and easy set up, just run the power from front battery to this tiny battery and get power😂. It seem like witchcraft something so small put out that much power
Hello @Bobi T To be honest the small footprint and the electrical gain to my system was pretty awesome! It just shows us that with newer technology we can save weight and space by using new batteries to help keep our cars playing with no voltage issues. Thank you for supporting my channel! SYNAUDIO
Yes I did do the big 3 upgrade which surprisingly helped my car overall. You can do the LTO 6.0 without the big 3 but from my experience the big 3 is crucial to get the most out of your alternator.
@@synaudio9778 did your LTO come with a screws? mine came today, i got no screws. How the hell they expect me to use with no screws? do you know the screws size?
How do I run 3 DOWN4SOUND | D4S LTO 6.0 - 12V Lithium Battery (9,000 - 15,000 watts) in trunk to 1 XS POWER | D3100 | 4000W / 5000W under the hood and properly Charge them Both ??? I also have a 390a alternator
Hello @WAT3VA TV I would highly recommend having minimum a double run of 0 gauge wire from your from battery to the 3 lithium batteries in the back, you can also go directly from alternator to rear batteries if possible. I currently have a D3400 under the hood with a double run of 0 gauge to my single LTO 6.0 which charges both batteries no issues. Having a 390a alternator will definitely help your voltage stay in the 14v range.
Awesome cause you got almost the same as me. I got a 15 vxf paired with a taramps bass 5k and 2 taramps 800x4 and an xs power d3400 and in the back a xs d5100 but it drops into the 11s and might be trying that battery out in the future
Hello @egm092478 Damn you got a pretty good setup in your vehicle already! I’m not very familiar with the d5100 as I’ve never owned one but this little LTO 6.0 helped my voltage from dropping down in the 12s and stay up in the 14s. When I get to the one year mark I will give you guys another quick update video on how the battery is holding up and if it’s lost any effectiveness on my system. Thank you for supporting my channel.
@egm092478 That’s awesome man! When are you planning on getting it installed in your vehicle? I know it’s going to make a big difference and you will definitely notice it every time the bass hits!
@SYNaudio I'm trying to install it my self tomorrow but I have to cut my factory plug and put in the pigtail that js sent me but they are telling me to just use two wires but my alternator has 3 and so does there pigtail , so what do i do with the other cable.
The alternator is in and i would not recommend js alternator but it does work and when im riding it doesn't drop below 14.4 and in idle it drops into 12.5 and goes back up quickly. But just seeing 14.9 it makes me happy .
I like those copper battery terminals.
Hello @DIY Audio Guy
They are pretty sweet and definitely has good conductivity with low resistance. They will definitely be eye candy to your setup as well.
I love those battery terminals. All I could see in the thumbnail
@@synaudio9778 where could I get those battery terminals?
Where did you buy the terminal
I think your review has convinced me to purchase this little guy. Ive been sitting on the fence about it but seeing your voltage on just a stock alternator and an xspower front battery has me sold. I have a 370amp jsalternator and an xspower d4800 under the hood. Great video and subscribed!
Hello @Josh Paul
I was just like you and than I pulled the trigger and purchased it and ever since my voltage and my bass has been sounding awesome! Let me know how it works for you, and i appreciate the feedback. You have a pretty solid power setup for your vehicle already.
I have a d4800 with a 400A elite, been debating on this too. My ALT cold startup charges at 15.2V though so I'm thinking that could hurt this little battery
I was looking at these batteries myself. I will have a 320A alt and a xs 3400 agm. My amp is a 2k you think i will be good with jus a xs3400 and 320A alt? Jus thought people saying a lithium in parallel with battery agm will draw the lithium down. Thanks
Hello @Johnny piper
I think for a single 2k amplifier you will be fine with your 320a alternator and a D3400 AGM battery. Having more reserve is never to much especially when you have future upgrades trust me!
If I bought the Lto can I use my isolater to shut off my front hood battery and be ok
Where did you get the terminal from to fit the the battery
That is awesome for a stock alternator!
It sure is! Thank you for supporting my channel.
@@synaudio9778hey I have dual runs of zero gauge wire from positive front battery to positive LTO but only 1 negative zero gauge run from negative to negative and I see my voltage is not holding up not even nearly as good as yours. Should I match it up meaning running another zero gauge wire from negative to negative?
Wow that is amazing to hold above 14v . I guess I will get a couple of these. Thanks for the demo
Thanks for your support.
Great video thx homie
Appreciate it, thanks for watching.
Great review, I think I'll go order one up!!
Hello @Joe
Thank you I appreciate the positive feedback. I would definitely give this battery a try; it has definitely helped me with voltage drop issues I was having before. Let me know how it works for you.
make your self one is cheaper and more power i got 18 batteries for 200
Hello @Immortal 1s
That’s pretty awesome to get 18 batteries for $200. By any chance do you have a video or a link for others to click on?
I have been sold since i first laid eyes on this baby beast I’m just trying to pull the money up to gat it and the charger 6 and some change last I checked .My day will come soon I hope 🙏🏾 Thanks for sharing,Maryland showing ❤
Thank you for your support, and you will be impressed by the additional support you will get to your system with this battery.
@titoham-DCXLs Do share ,I’m all ears if you’re willing to?
@titoham-DCXLswhat do you recommend for a 5k rms system? (stock alternator)
so what i am hearing is i dont need to upgrade my alternator if i have the lto and a upgraded agm battery if hes running over 6k. I am only wanting like 3-4k watts.
Yes you should be ok with an upgraded AGM main battery and an LTO for your build if you’re aiming for 4k. Let me know how it works for you.
Thanks,
SYNAUDIO
Well ordered mine... hope it does well with winters and cold weather😬 we get some -10 to -20 nights in Michigan
Hello, damn some cold weather out there in Michigan! The lowest it gets here in California is 31 so far this year and I haven’t had any issues with it so far. It is my first winter running this battery but I hope having it in my trunk will help prevent any issues with weather. Enjoy your battery come back and let me know your experience!
Thank you,
SYNAUDIO
Bro I have two of the JP LTO 6.0 and I haven’t installed them as of yet waiting on my mechman 320 ALT but I can’t wait… Sweet setup bro
Thank you I appreciate your support and hope your setup is exactly what you need before upgrading because we love the bass!!
Brother, where did you purchase those terminals!?
Here's the link you are looking for and thank you for your support.
www.down4soundshop.com/4-spot-copper-d4s-battery-distro-block-1-0-awg-input/
I have a Milwaukee drill that has a 6ah 18v battery could this possibly be the same 6ah battery placed in a different battery box and then charged over 4 times as much for? 🤔
Hello @Matt Jones
lol I know what you mean and I would be curious to see if anyone has tried running some Milwaukee and Dewalt batteries to help their sound system. But so far my experience has been great and the little foot print and small weight addition has helped my car build. There’s a few other lithium battery options out there with more AH but some more expensive as well. Thank you for your support.
Unfortunately, all this showed was you're not running a ton of power. That LTO was not helping there at all and would not start helping until you dropped to it's resting voltage. Anything above that is all alternator just as your XS power would not supply any reserve until you dropped into the 12's past it's resting voltage. I have no doubt the JP battery is good but you need more power to actually utilize it. Nice set up btw.
Hello @Flexin Five Hundred
Just want to start off by saying that I understand why you think I’m not running enough power to drop voltage on my battery. Prior to installing the LTO 6.0 I was dropping to the low 13s and noticing that the bass would gradually drop off after playing heavy bass and once I installed this battery I maintain in the 14s. Thank you for your input and I appreciate you liking my current setup. I understand that there’s always room for improvement and I’m open minded to feedback from everyone.
Good job nice video very detailed ❤
Thank you!
Do more videos of this build! I have a fiesta st with 2 sundown nightshade 10s on 2 Cab 45s
Hello Basshead 419
I will post more videos about my build, is there anything your interested in showing? That’s a pretty great setup I’m sure your fiesta is slapping pretty hard with your setup!
How much 0 guage do I need when adding one of these?
Damn on a stock alternator shdd. Thats was dope
Nice
Thanks
Why not connect the two power runs to the Alternator
Hello, yes that is always an option to run dual power runs from the alternator to the battery. I currently just have one due to having my stock alternator. There is no such thing as overkill on having extra wire runs like you mentioned. The more the better. Thank you.
was told if i hook up from front battery and not at it want charge right n it would draing the agm. i have no space to run from alt its factory 150a alt
Seen in another comment you said you have a 500amp fuse on 1/0? You need a smaller fuse my brother, fuses are rated to the cable and how much power the cable can handle. So for example 1/0 would be about 3-350amps before it melts itself, and that's why you have the fuse!
Hello @Dyl
Thanks for correcting me on that last comment. I have a double run of 1/0 cables going from my front battery to the rear battery, and they are, in fact, “300amp” fuses on my fuse holder. I should have took my time to reply to the other user’s comment and verify what size I actually had; I will edit my comment and hopefully he reads it. I admit I make mistakes myself, but I like to share only correct information with my audience, and I appreciate you bringing it to my attention as I was wrong. So basically, I don't have any fuses larger than 300amp on my setup.
@@synaudio9778 no worries bro! Just looking out. Your setup is dope! And I subscribed to your channel. Thanks for the videos!
@Dyl, I appreciate your support, and I hope to bring you and everyone else good content to watch and learn together. Thanks for subscribing and sharing your knowledge with the rest of us, as we're all still learning.
How's the lifespan in if its in freezing Temps and extreme heat sitting in my car all day while I'm at work? Or do these batteries require more care than I would care to give them?
Question ..i have a agm battery in the trunk ..Can i put this lithium battery next to it ?
Link to the terminal those are NOICE
Here's the link you are looking for and thank you for your support.
www.down4soundshop.com/4-spot-copper-d4s-battery-distro-block-1-0-awg-input/
Did you know Gately makes amps now? Siiiick
Hello @Jbortega
I did see that Gately has some amps now; I saw Steve Meade do a review on the beast GI-5700D Monoblock amp, which overperformed the rated RMS rating.
Thanks for supporting my channel.
SYNAUDIO
@@synaudio9778 1 question tho... you recommended a gately box are you from Sacramento?
I live about an hour and a half from Sacramento, and I haven't purchased any of Gatley’s enclosures, but they look high quality and well-made. I think for the price and convenience, they are a good choice, but you need to make sure they are in spec for what you're looking for, depending on the frequency and subs you will be loading into the enclosures. I enjoy making my enclosures, but it can be pretty time-consuming, and some people, they don't want to deal with all the hassle. I would try the Gately enclosures, as I know they have a good reputation for all their products.
Your system looks 🔥 how's that Lto 6.0 lithium working out for ya? Have you had to put it on a charge? Been really thinking about either getting 1 of those d4s 6.0 lithiums or 1 of the jy power nvx 2kf hybird cap. Jus wasn't sure if it was ok to come off my front agm battery then to the lithium then to my amp without having a isolator inline to separate the agm and lithium while my truck is off. Do you have any problems occurring since you have been having your for a bit now? Thanks alot keep bumbin my dude👊🔊💨💨
Thank you for your kind words, so far, no issues and I've had it now for over a year now. No since the day I received and charged it before installing I haven't had to charge the battery again. I currently don't have an isolator for my batteries, and I have not run into any issues. I believe the way they designed this battery as a supplemental battery has been quiet a success. Every day I'm bumping my system and enjoying my daily.
SYNaudio
@SYNaudio awesome, I'm definitely gonna have to get me one especially when I get my salt 3 amp.
@@synaudio9778what's up dude, how has your d4s lto been doing? I'm finally about to get my system installed and I ended up going with a xs d series agm to replace my stock lead acid battery under my hood instead of the xs titan 8 s5. I have a mechman 370 amp alt and my amp is gonna be a 2.5k. I was gonna see how my voltage is with the big agm and get 1 of those d4s LTO if needed. I heard people say you need an isolator an heard you don't lol. How long have you been having your lto and have you had any issues without having a isolator? Does your voltage stay in the 14s while at full tilt? Those little batteries seem pretty legit and heard alot of people bashing them but most that bash prolly never ever had one and jus regurgitate what they hear from others lol. Thanks afor the help 🙏
@@synaudio9778what charger do you use to charge the lto 6.0?
Hey man what brand or where could I get those copper battery terminals?
Where did you get the Copper Battery Connectors????
Hello @Gorilla Soulja
Here’s the link for those beautiful copper distro attachments.
www.down4soundshop.com/4-spot-copper-d4s-battery-distro-block-1-0-awg-input/
@@synaudio9778 ❤️💪🏿
Where I’m at it gets -42c with windchill I’m worried I’d wreck it lmao
Hello @Samuel Lopes
That's crazy cold! I'm not sure what the temperature rating for this little beast is, but if you reach out to their children's customer support team, they can give you some more info. Good luck and bass on!!!
SYNAUDIO
Are you using a isolator in your setup?
Hello @Phi Mobile Sounds
I am not using a battery isolator on my current setup. It is not required to have a battery isolator but if you would like to add one for your setup I don’t think it would be a bad idea.
I haven’t had any issues with mine without an isolator but an isolator would most likely help when I need to work on my system by cutting power to the rear battery.
Thanks for watching,
SYNAUDIO
What are your thoughts on the JP40?
@titoham-DCXLs damn
Any recommendations for a small lithium battery to support 6k watts?
@titoham-DCXLs damn. I have a lot to read & learn.
Best I get to reading on Google & Reddit to know what I'm getting into
@titoham-DCXLs solid info. Thank you for the help.
It's a Jeep Wrangler alternator that's been modified by singer. I'd imagine I could by pass the TIPM (which controls the voltage regulation) & run 2/0 with a 500 amp fuse on the line, straight to my lithium & from the the lithium to the distribution block so it can spread power out to all my amps.
I'm new to this lithium world. That really shows my age. I remember back when 2000 watt amps were big & powerful back in my day
Does the different amp hour chargers make a difference in voltage or just how fast it charges?
It’s just how fast it charges, but honestly a little bit of patience will save you some money. Also make sure it’s a 12v lithium charger.
@@synaudio9778 bet I’m thinking about getting the 15ah charger that u got for it but I might go with that 12v from down4sound just for cheaper been spending a lot on the system
Can you run agm battery with that or what kind of battery do you have under hood?
Yes your able to run AGM under the hood as your primary better no issues. I currently have an XSPOWER D3400 AGM under the hood.
@@synaudio9778 thanks yo I’m putting a agm in the front and the 6.0 in the back I appreciate the reply.
How many of these would i need for a 12k system and 370 h.o.? People keep telling me to buy yinglong batteries and build my own battery but I have mixed feelings about that
Hello Edmond, I'm not sure exactly how many of the little guys you would need for your system but from my experience, going overkill on your electrical is actually a good thing. I would say possibly 4 of these would get the job done. I feel the same way, and since I'm still inexperienced in building my own, I will buy batteries that are tested and pre-built as of now.
Thank you for your support, SYNaudio
@@synaudio9778 I read mixed reactions on these batteries some love them some say they’re bs batteries. From what I seen from your video and someone else’s video these lil things hold it down when it come to battery power. I plan on getting 4 of these batteries or the limitless cyber 12k. I do like the idea of several batteries working instead of 1. Thanks 🙏
You will always get good and bad reviews and sometimes amplifiers, batteries, and other products come defective. My review is my own opinion and so far I’m satisfied and enjoy buying what makes me happy. I like to be honest and help others after all I’m not being paid to advertise JPs products but he’s definitely changing the game with a lot of his new products. I hope your system turns out great and I would love to see a video of it someday. If you ever get the chance send me a link to see your final setup im curious how it turns out with that big 12k!
@@synaudio9778 Thanks I will definitely send you a link when I have everything installed. I’m slowly getting everything as we speak
No rush, the bigger the system the more time needed to ensure everything is wired and running properly after tuning your amps. I will be waiting and have fun building it as the reward will be worth it!
Can the battery under hood be removed and get 2 of these d4s lto's to use with sound system and starting battery as well?
Hello @rogelio
I’m not completely sure you can run two of these LTO 6.0s batteries with out a main battery due to low “6 amp hours” they are rated at. I currently have a Xspower d3400 that has an 80ah rating which is more than enough to turn my car on. If I find any more info I will reply back to you. Thank you for supporting my channel.
No you can not use this under the hood or any lithium battery. It’s meant to be used as a supplement battery.
No!
I had bought one during the Black friday sale and just picked up 2 today for the super low slightly used. What did u use to charge it ?
Hello @cocotaso101
The battery charger I use to charge my my lithium battery is this one,
www.down4soundshop.com/down4sound-d4s-chg-8a-12v-lithium-charger/
Thats a lithium battery charger which I got directly from the down4sound shop.
where did you get or did you build your enclosure? I got a prefab box but need a custom build really bad
Hello @Kevin Charles
I build my own personal enclosures to my preference depending what frequency I’m looking to achieve and airspace needed for my subwoofer. If your looking to get a high quality subwoofer enclosure that’s ready to ship to your home I would look up Gatley Audio out of Sacramento CA.
@@synaudio9778 thanks. I'm in Houston Texas. I have 2 12inch L7s. They're loud but I know I could get more out of them. I'll check them out
@Kevin Charles if you were local here in California I would have been more than happy to build you an enclosure for your setup, but see what they have to offer on their website. Prefab enclosures are a good option to save money but a good quality enclosure with no air leaks and designed to play your favorite frequency would be your best option.
@@kevincharles1983 for kickers look up mb enclosures
Hello @Drago 710
Thanks for helping and providing additional information to other enclosures available.
Where you get them copper attachments where you got on top of the battery
Down4Sound has them and so does Skyhigh car audio.
Here’s the link for those beautiful copper distro attachments.
www.down4soundshop.com/4-spot-copper-d4s-battery-distro-block-1-0-awg-input/
Thanks @Mr. Man for helping him find these battery accessories.
For some reason mine go dead
Hello @Dwan163
Do you by any chance know what could have been the issue? Did you charge it once it arrived to your house with a lithium charger? Also you can always check your grounds and other connections to make sure the charge is flowing from your front battery to the LTO 6.0 .
How's the battery holding up? Could I use a noco genius 5 to charge this on lithium mode?
Hello @Almightyycres
I’ve had the batter now for 10 months and it’s holding up great and given me no issues. I’m planning on April on doing a one year review and hopefully share with everyone that it’s a reliable battery. I believe as long as it is a “lithium battery charger” you should be good. Just make sure your charger is in the right mode if it has that option. Thank you for supporting my channel.
@@synaudio9778 I most likely will be getting two. I just got my 370mp alternator in so 0 gauge power and ground and two of these are the next and last upgrade. But I'm honestly a little scared of them cause I'm well aware how violent lithium battery fires can be and I don't have full knowledge about the quality of these batteries. They will be an in enclosed cargo tray with fans for circulation
@Almightycres
Trust me your not alone on questioning lithium batteries as we’ve all heard the horrific stories of cars catching fire. But my experience has been a positive one and that living through hot summers and cold winters here in California. Your alternator will definitely give you a more solid voltage with these two LTO 6.0s! Mine are not enclosed and are vented but just be careful and make sure if you have a fan that you always turn it on unless you will have it automatically to turn on with your car. If you can let me know how your setup turns out. Thank you.
@@synaudio9778 can't wait to hear your 1yr review of them. I might get the battery terminals you have, I'll be laying my batteries down so my question is. Are those terminals small enough to not protrude past the battery width wise? So I'd have mine rotated 90 degrees compared to the thumbnail pic on the video. If they do protrude, how much?
@AlmightyyCres
Those copper battery terminals do not protrude the width of the battery, they should be able to lay on their side no problem just depending how you adjust the terminals. On its side with the terminals facing up I’d say maybe 1/4 to half inch. I’m not to sure as mine are facing inward. You could always give their sales team at down4sound a call to get you the exact measurements.
Hey I want to know. What should my LTO battery be chartered at before I install it in my car?
Chargered
Hello @Freddie Garza
What device are you using to charge your LTO? Make sure to use a lithium battery charger, doesn’t necessarily need to be the D4S charger. When I full charged mine I believe it reached over 14v before the battery charger told me it was ready to use. Let me know what charger your using.
@SYNaudio Well was supposed to get D4S LITHIUM BATTERY CHARGER. BUT Dow4sound never sent it my package. Now there not answering the phone. Nor returning my messages. I paid over one hundred dollars for it. Now I don't know what to do. It's like they don't believe me or something. I sent them a lot of pictures showing the box it came in. The box is only big enough for the battery. And the battery is real small. So now I'm stuck. But I do have a deep cycle battery charger. Will that work you think. Sorry explaining myself to you. On what happened. Have a wonderful day.
I could understand your frustration as in some of my previous purchases their has been some discrepancies on my items received, but when I’ve reached out they’ve always been helpful. Not sure if they are possibly short handed at the moment that their isn’t someone to answer your call? But don’t get discouraged, your a customer and they should work on making sure your satisfied with your purchase. Maybe give them a try again Monday morning?
@SYNaudio ok ill do that . Thanks for your help. Nice to talk to you.
I have a mechman 400, I’m going to run a salt 4 and 2 sfb 500.4s. I’m going to see how long one can last but it looks like I’m going to be good with just one, thanks for the quick review
@titoham-DCXLs definitely ok at 14.8v constantly lil guy
@titoham-DCXLs hush up little guy I’m telling you what my voltage is with my 2 salt 200.4s, my sfb 500.4, my salt 4 and my tweeter amp is at when it’s at a 7 on the volume with this battery and my 2xs powers. If you could afford the setup you’d see when it drops down to 14.5-14.6
@titoham-DCXLs yea because a d3400 and another smaller xs can handle 9k watts above 14.4 at idle
@titoham-DCXLs just shut up little guy you don’t know anything and it’s embarrassing
@titoham-DCXLs Keep talking to yourself idiot😂 I’m sure a internet warrior that can’t even afford my bass amp knows what all of my volt meters read at full tilt
I have a 2018 Camry. Trying to run a 10” zv6 on a jp23, with a jp84 for mids. What electrical upgrades would you recommend from start? Or more of a once I start seeing my voltage drop go from there.
Hello @LennIE
By far the best electrical upgrade you can do to your car is getting yourself a Big 3 Kit which will help get your voltage supply from your alternator to your battery more efficiently. The second thing to upgrade if you haven’t already is your stock battery, maybe an XSPOWER AGM or a lithium supplemental battery can help with reserve for the heavy bass notes. Since both amplifiers combined will be pulling close to 3000w it’s important to have even a double run of 0g ofc wires to the back of your vehicle to have sufficient voltage when needed. I would recommend to do a few of these at a time till you don’t see to much voltage drop while playing music under heavy load. Hope this helps.
SYNAUDIO
@@synaudio9778 awesome appreciate this. Yeah I was looking at alternators and d4s has em but they’re custom made $599 so rather try to get away with other things before I commit too upgrade alt. I had a Tahoe on 2 comp r 15s and my lights used to dim like crazy do not want that for my “newer car”. And please if there’s anyway you can do like a ohms law for dummies. I cannot wrap my head around the OHMs for car audio. I just learned about OHMs in electrical school and i just can’t get it. Thanks appreciate all the info
@LennIE, I understand what you mean, and there is no wrong way to start upgrading your electrical system for your car as long you're actually doing it. It takes power to make power and if you decided to upgrade alternator first there's nothing wrong with that. Are you asking about ohms for when you're wiring your speakers (Subs)? Don't worry it takes time to learn all this information, I'm still learning as I go, and I've been doing this for three years lol.
@@synaudio9778 yeah as far as like sub being 2ohm or 4ohm then they say they wire to 1ohm??? Just can’t grasp the concept around it
@LennIE, I will share with you a link to a great video which can help you understand wiring your speakers but with some good demonstrations. I know this can be a bit confusing but also quite simple once you know how wiring works. You will need to get yourself a multimeter with the DC option and Ohms to work around your car and get your wiring done right.
th-cam.com/video/jryFmICR4qA/w-d-xo.html
After those 3 months you didn't have to take it out and check battery life or recharge it? Contemplating buying one since they supply so much more power by doing basically nothing. Do you have the big 3 done as well? My sequoia has 150amp alternator but at idle I only get 13.5-13.8. Probably old weak rusty ground somewhere or the alt is tired. Bottom mount alt so I'm not screwing with it. To tight. Thanks again
Hello @dean koski
The time that I’ve had the LTO 6.0 I’ve never had to take it out of my car to recharge it, but if for some reason it needed to be recharged I could always use the D4s charger while it’s still in my trunk. I do have the big 3 done on my car which has helped with better voltage. I might be wrong, but I believe your voltage might sit a little higher with this battery since it’s lithium, but I can be wrong. I still believe this battery would be a great upgrade for your setup.
Thanks again,
SYNAUDIO
Bro I just changed my alt on my 02 sequioa it's easy man but I think it's a 120 or 130 not 150 at least the one I got. My alternator died and I needed one because it's my daily I'm getting a js alt ho for a build.
@Drago 710 couldn't get 1 last bolt off my skid plate forever so access to alt was poor. I recently installed some 2/0 welding cable directly from alt to rear bank. Works plenty well now. Have you tried the fuse diode trick yet!?!? Swap out the alternator s fuse in the fuse box with a gm fuse with a diode in it. Tricks into charging a full volt higher. Be careful when 40 degrees or colder. Was charging at 15.05 cold cold in freezing weather. Agm no like over 14.8😅
But also you have to loosen the power steering pulley to get the alt to slid off or alteast videos show you do.. Kinda retarded
Hows the battery holding up ?
I have the d4s battery already think i wanna upgrade the front too so i wont have to touch my alternator post more brody!!
Its holding up like quiet well which makes me happy it was money well spent. Once I get done with this semester, I will make a short update video on voltage and how its holding up. Thank you!
Does this battery come with the m6 screws?
Hello @Jason Lassiter
The battery does come with a pair of m6 screws. On my copper adapters I did have to use a few washers since my screws were a little to long. I could always buy smaller ones but at the moment I haven’t got around to it.
Thanks for the info brotha I appreciate it!
No problem, thanks for supporting my channel I appreciate it.
What's song?
Hello, The Black Rockefeller
The song in my video is here in the link below.
th-cam.com/video/-lRqNDbSov0/w-d-xo.html
@@synaudio9778 Tnk, is excellent work. Congratulations
Thanks for your support, and I hope you enjoy that song in your car it’s one of the loudest and cleanest songs I’ve played on my setup.
One of the biggest ripoffs in car audio bar none. 6ah for $500 is laughable. High C rating but lacks reserve. Has nothing to do with the brand it's just facts. Can do 40ah Yinlong which is 5x more powerful for less.
Hello @Dibeezy ThaGifted
Your right there is other brands and batteries that have better reserve than this battery. I guess it’s just preference just like any other consumer items. Thanks again and if someone wants to see the battery your talking about can you please place the link so they can find it?
Thank you,
SYNAUDIO
So with that being said...if your dropping hella voltage which would u need more of?....reserve or higher C rating? I have a mechman 240a alt, AGM 3400 under hood and Cyber 6K in back. With 2 X-12 and Salt 4K im still dropping low 12s at full tilt. I was about to upgrade to a cyber 12K but i saw these. I'd figure I'd start with one D4S LTO and see how the voltage holds then. If it holds or improves i would buy a 2nd one.
Hello @Julius Crummer
Thanks for the advice I appreciate you giving supporting my channel.
What size fuse do you use for your amp
Hello @Ron Mackie
I do currently have 2 amplifiers that I’m running in my car one for my mids and one for my lows.
Mids 1,600 wrms Amp- 150Amp fuse.
Lows 4,900 wrms Amp- 350Amp fuse.
Hope this helps, SYNAUDIO.
Are you using a battery isolator?
Hello Vincel,
I am not using a battery isolator for my lithium battery, it is not required I guess it comes down to preference. I haven’t had any issues with running it this way.
@@synaudio9778 Thanks
the LTO is designed to work inline with any other 12v battery ..but you CAN NOT do this with all lithium batteries ..this one was deisgned that way
@hooptastic_hippie 852
You are correct the D4S LTO 6.0 was designed to work specifically as a supplemental battery with other 12v batteries. I should have been more specific in my response. Thanks for advice and supporting my channel.
I have a question? So after you charge it 1 time the altenator keeps it up correct?
Thanks, do I have to charge the lithium and how often after initial charge or does the alternator do this by itself?
Nice! Where'd you get the battery post? How much power you think that 6.0 will hold with stock 100 amp alternator?
Hello super qaib,
Here’s the link for the battery battery distro block. www.down4soundshop.com/4-spot-copper-d4s-battery-distro-block-1-0-awg-input/
I’m not one hundred percent sure but I would give a good guess that it would hold 2,600-3,000 watts with a 100 amp alternator. On their website for the battery they say a 120amp alternator will hold 3,000 watts. Hope this helps.
Thank you,
SYNAUDIO
@@synaudio9778 thanks 😊 🙏 for the help.
I think I’m going to pick one up too. I have a mechman billet 370 alternator, an odyssey extreme AGM under hood, and an ioxus uc-31 at the moment. My voltage holds up pretty well with a JP23v2 on an SSA Evil 15 and a JP84 on the mids/highs but not quite as well as yours does! I think this battery would put the icing on the cake for my setup.
I have that sub in my ride but the difference is my sub box is smaller and has a 6 inch areo port which is way better vs your permit turning. You need another sub box bro asap just saying that sub is for low end sub boxes only not for spl which you have. but i am getting that batt most likely 5 of them
Hello @_1_
I agree, this box is 4.75 air cubic ft internally and tuned to 32hz which was designed for my old Sundown 15 XV.2; I decided to reuse my enclosure momentarily while I design and make a new one. You won’t be disappointed with these L-Batteries I currently just have one but I’m planning on running 3 in the future. Thanks for supporting my channel and your observations.
What 15 are you running?
Just ordered one are you running a stock alternator i have a optima yellow top amg so hopefully it helps never with voltage drop
I am still running the stock 150amp alternator with a big 3 on it and haven’t had any issues with my electrical system. I currently have a 3 year old XSPOWER D3400 under the hood. This little battery will definitely help your electrical.
Thanks for your support
SYNAUDIO
So I have two of them linked together almost done with install my question is can I charge them together
Yes you should be able to charge them together with no issues. Sorry for the late response.
4900.1 interesting 🧐 amp might I say .
Still running good I’ve had it for a few years now 🤞🏼.
Is it better to run power wire from battery or directly from alternator? Or can i do one from battery and one from alternator?
Do both , its always better
This is a great review most people just want to shit on this battery. You showed real world testing and application. Thanks bro!
Hello @Nathaniel Rodriguez
You know everyone has the right to their own opinion but at times people dislike a product just because of the successful person behind the product or company.
No problem hope you enjoyed it and I hope to bring some more content soon to keep my channel growing and getting bass-heads together in my channel.
Real world testing wold be the battery sitting in a vehicle for 50+ hours a week while the vehicle is in direct sunlight and below freezing temps year round. This test shows optimal conditions. Is it any good in a daily driver experiencing extreme Temps year round? My xs power d3400 is still fine after experiencing those extremes for seven years now.
hey man am I supposed to run positive and negative wire from the the main battery to the lto or just the positive one and ground wire somewhere in the back?
Positive wire from main battery, to back battery. From there, power wire to amp. Battery ground will go to a grounding point in the back.
@@raulboominThanks man, what fuse is recommended to run from positive to positive?
@@chrisluvsuDepends on your wire size. And if it’s OFC or CCA. You can find the info online just google it. There’s a chart that’ll show you how many amps u need depending on wire and length
@@chrisluvsuANL fuse. If it’s ceramic, even better. I get my fuses from KnuKonceptz
Hi,just came across this vid today..some questions if You don't mind answering
1.is Your alternator stock?,if so whats it's amplege?
2.what amplifier are You using for the sub?
3.have You ever charged it with external charger,or just by the alty?
Thanks in advance
Hello @V Power Electrix
My alternator is stock and my Ford Focus ST does come with a 150amp alternator.
For my sub I got a Deaf Bonce AAB 4900.1 D amplifier.
Before installing the LTO 6.0 I did charge it with a lithium charger prior to installing it to my car.
No problem hopefully I answered all your questions and thanks for supporting my channel.
@@synaudio9778 thanks alot buddy...great help
Im getting 2 of these, i have a 320 amp js alternators alt, but i get crazy voltage spikes, i sent it back for work, they replaced the regulator etc, and voltage still goes up to 15 16 even saw 17.5 v, so i plan to return it and run 2 of those batteries on my stock alternator, should be 120 amp and with 2 ill get 6k watts out of it apparently
@synaudio9778 : where did you get the copper fittings from battery terminals????
Where did your get your copper adapters
Hello @Yeah thats Los
You can find these copper adapters on down4sound.com I will place the link below for the item. Thank you for supporting my channel.
www.down4soundshop.com/4-spot-copper-d4s-battery-distro-block-1-0-awg-input/
My main battery is in the trunk. I currently have the main battery ground and amp grounded to the chassis in the same spot. Can I also ground this lithium battery to that same spot?
Please help where did you get them copper battery terminals from??????
I thought you could not mix agm batteries and lithium together.
Hello @Cory Binion
That’s the same question I asked myself before JP from D4S made a Q&A about these lithium batteries but this battery is was designed to work as a supplemental battery with AGM. I have had my D4S LTO 6.0 in my car for over 6 months with no issues. I would recommend this battery and you won’t be disappointed. Hope my video helped with voltage drop demonstration.
You're not suppose to. Agm resting voltage is 12.6, as he showed that battery is 13.2.
That lto will try to raise the agm to 13.2 so if the car sits for too long, the lto will drain down to the agm resting voltage.
Did you do double runs of negative from front to rear? I've been seeing and hearing people doing this but I've always been told that there just needs to be grounded to the vehicle closest to the battery. What's your opinion or knowledge of this situation? Thanks!
Hello @Tony Foley
I did not do a double run of negative cables from the front to the back of my car but I do have two grounds on each battery to help with any issues possible.
I haven’t had any issues running my setup with only the grounds at the batteries. That’s a good question and although I can’t give you the best answer since there’s things I’m still learning, but as long as your not having any issues with your batteries charging or losing voltage I think you should be ok.
Thank you, for supporting my channel.
Thanks
Just make sure you prep your grounds the bare metal before placing your grounds. I always put a little spray of clear coat over the grounds and around the are to prevent any rust.
@@synaudio9778 will do
how much current are you pulling from the D4S LTO 6.0 battery, you ever measure it? if you were pulling full 5000W, that would probably be ~500A+.....? i am curious what current that battery can actually support. did you compare with/without the D4S LTO 6.0 in there?
Hello @JohnnyOhh-yt
That’s actually a great question. I’ve never actually measured how much current I’m pulling out of my LTO 6.0.
For my subwoofer amp I’m Running a 5k but in reality it might be closer to 4k RMS on my single ZV6 15”. I am using an SMD 300amp ANL fuse.
My mids are at 200 RMS WHICH IS 800 watts total. Using a 150amp Anl fuse I believe.
I never did a comparison test with or without the LTO 6.0 but prior to installing the secondary supplemental battery my voltage with the same setup was dropping down to low 13.10-13.30volts on a single Xs-Power D3400 AGM battery.
I’m happy so far with my dual battery setup I currently have as my voltage stays above 14Vs which is great for my 150amp stock alternator. Hoped this info helps, and that I answered your question. If I were to increase my power in the future I would like to run two of these hands down.
Thank you,
SYNAUDIO
@titoham-DCXLs well it will work find for those with stock alt an around 1500. Which will help keep voltage up less stress on all. Good to know but I would think it wouldnt actually support 200amp .
who's arguing lol geesh. I made a observation. yet no one recommended anything . your defensive about a statement that wasn't directed. I said since it want handle 200amp. so since am around 1500wats not clamping that fir sure so will it Hadel 100amps.
@titoham-DCXLs so why all the extra did I say anything about a test all u giving is rants with no help if u go rant and point fingers give a solution and never say I argue . I that I was replied like a adult I gave what I thought I don't know what u do or ask . since u gave reason I said what I said. nor di mad I bash u or call u a liar. why so defensive. and defensive with out a solution
and third fthat battery and u
nice👍, I think Timeusb's battery is more cost-effective ,12v100ah only sales $289.
Help Joe,
I will have to take a look at that battery thanks for the feedback. For now I will enjoy my LTO 6.0 but im always looking for new stuff.
Thank you,
SYNAUDIO
@@synaudio9778 I’ve had one of these for sometime now. Often use it on the go when travelling in my 4wd. Never had an issue.😁
how much wattage can it support?would it be good with a stock 200 amp alternator and the big 3 done?
Hello Barry Louis Frasier,
The D4S LTO 6.0 can support from 3000-5000 depending on the alternator. With a 200amp alternator I’d say it would probably help with anywhere close to 3,500-4,200 watts. You can always find more info on the battery directly on their website where they have some good info prior to purchase. The Big 3 upgrade is a must, especially when you want the most amount of flow from your alternator to your batteries. Hope this helps if not I could always send you the link to the item.
Thanks
SYNAUDIO
Nice and small battery
i like that it’s small and easy set up, just run the power from front battery to this tiny battery and get power😂. It seem like witchcraft something so small put out that much power
Hello @Bobi T
To be honest the small footprint and the electrical gain to my system was pretty awesome! It just shows us that with newer technology we can save weight and space by using new batteries to help keep our cars playing with no voltage issues.
Thank you for supporting my channel!
SYNAUDIO
@@synaudio9778 did you do big 3 upgrade? i am so lazy doing big 3, i just want to buy this lto 6.0 and slap it on and get the gain
Yes I did do the big 3 upgrade which surprisingly helped my car overall. You can do the LTO 6.0 without the big 3 but from my experience the big 3 is crucial to get the most out of your alternator.
@@synaudio9778 i’ll do that, and drop in the LTO thanks. ❤️ your videos
@@synaudio9778 did your LTO come with a screws? mine came today, i got no screws. How the hell they expect me to use with no screws? do you know the screws size?
Gg
Thank you.
so no effect on drain agm over night
Can this be run inline with an AGM under the hood? From front battery to the trunk
Yes, I currently have an XSpower AGM under the hood for over a year with my lithium in the trunk no problem.
great review, thanks for this
Hello srarcade,
Glad you enjoyed my review and hope my video did this awesome little battery justice.
@@synaudio9778 yea looks perfect im shooting for a single 15 setup with 240 alt
@srarcade I feel like many people underestimate single sub setups in a good quality enclosure. But good luck and have fun bassin out!
How did u connect it
I am curious as what cells they utilize.
I am not sure what cells they use its actually never crossed my mind. Not sure if you can get that info from them directly.
Great video and review i will order mine today you convinced me
Hey @Tony Dize
I’m glad you enjoyed the review and for supporting my channel. I hope you enjoy your purchase and BASS-ON!!!!
How much that battery was
I cant recall how much I paid for it but I do remember it was on sale $100 off.
From where u buy it from
How do I run 3 DOWN4SOUND | D4S LTO 6.0 - 12V Lithium Battery (9,000 - 15,000 watts) in trunk to 1 XS POWER | D3100 | 4000W / 5000W under the hood and properly Charge them Both ??? I also have a 390a alternator
Hello @WAT3VA TV
I would highly recommend having minimum a double run of 0 gauge wire from your from battery to the 3 lithium batteries in the back, you can also go directly from alternator to rear batteries if possible. I currently have a D3400 under the hood with a double run of 0 gauge to my single LTO 6.0 which charges both batteries no issues. Having a 390a alternator will definitely help your voltage stay in the 14v range.
@@synaudio9778 thanks So Much
@WAT3VA TV
Thanks for supporting my channel, and I hope you get your system slapping the way you want it to.
@@synaudio9778 no doubt
Awesome cause you got almost the same as me. I got a 15 vxf paired with a taramps bass 5k and 2 taramps 800x4 and an xs power d3400 and in the back a xs d5100 but it drops into the 11s and might be trying that battery out in the future
Hello @egm092478
Damn you got a pretty good setup in your vehicle already! I’m not very familiar with the d5100 as I’ve never owned one but this little LTO 6.0 helped my voltage from dropping down in the 12s and stay up in the 14s. When I get to the one year mark I will give you guys another quick update video on how the battery is holding up and if it’s lost any effectiveness on my system.
Thank you for supporting my channel.
@SYNaudio I just got my js alternator 370
@egm092478
That’s awesome man! When are you planning on getting it installed in your vehicle? I know it’s going to make a big difference and you will definitely notice it every time the bass hits!
@SYNaudio I'm trying to install it my self tomorrow but I have to cut my factory plug and put in the pigtail that js sent me but they are telling me to just use two wires but my alternator has 3 and so does there pigtail , so what do i do with the other cable.
The alternator is in and i would not recommend js alternator but it does work and when im riding it doesn't drop below 14.4 and in idle it drops into 12.5 and goes back up quickly. But just seeing 14.9 it makes me happy .