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Wrangler Amiga
เข้าร่วมเมื่อ 13 ธ.ค. 2014
Z3660 Part 3: Accelerating the A3000
One question that seems to come up quite a lot is whether the Z3660 works in the Amiga A3000. I put this to the test and in the process uncover a lot enhancements and upgrades Shanshe, the creator of the Z3660, has made since Parts 1 and 2.
Shanshe's github page on the Z3660 is here: github.com/shanshe/Z3660
This contains a link to the Z3660 Discord channel
Shanshe's github page on the Z3660 is here: github.com/shanshe/Z3660
This contains a link to the Z3660 Discord channel
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Best Amiga gaming combo: CD32 + TF360?
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The Amiga is known for its great gaming heritage. But what is the best Amiga for gaming in the 2020s? I check out the CD32 with some help from a Terrible Fire 360 accelerator and see if it is the best combo for gaming.
What Might Have Been demo - extended party version
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This is a video of the WMHB demo that I extended for the Kickstart 01 Amiga event in Nottingham in 2023. It's also the version of the demo that's available for download from Aminet (requires and Amiga with a DSP3210 chip). If you want the voiceover explaining why and how I coded the demo then see this YT video: th-cam.com/video/BECjQZccUnU/w-d-xo.html The mod playing is After the Fight by Boray...
Ball trouble
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I have ball trouble. What do you do when your retro mouse ball breaks? I got in search of answers.
The Z3660 all-in-one accelerator. Part 2
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In part 2, I examine the RTG, networking and audio capabilities of the card - and give my overall take on the Z3660. sHaNsHe (Double H Tech) has created a new all-in-one accelerator for the A3000 and A4000 Amigas, which has some neat tricks up its sleeve. Check out Part 1 first for an introduction to the card. sHaNsHe's github page is here: github.com/shanshe/Z3660/tree/main
1550 MIPS Amiga - The Z3660 all-in-one accelerator. Part 1
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sHaNsHe (Double H Tech) has created a new all-in-one accelerator for the A3000 and A4000 Amigas, which has some neat tricks up its sleeve. I set up my card and benchmark it against other accelerators. sHaNsHe's github page is here: github.com/shanshe/Z3660/tree/main With thanks also to: kavanoz - PCBs and SMT soldering sparx - TTH soldering
The Jupiter Ace as a games machine?
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The Jupiter Ace was a commercial failure but if history had been different and it had launched earlier, could it have been a success as a 1980s games machine? I go in search of an answer. Disassembly by Paul Farrow of the original 3D Monster Maze is here: www.fruitcake.plus.com/Sinclair/ZX81/Disassemblies/MonsterMaze.htm 3D Monster Maze for the Jupiter Ace is available here: github.com/markgbec...
Exploring EPROM Emulators
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Replacing the ROMs in a retro computer, especially an Amiga, is a tricky and time consuming process. What if you could change the ROM without opening the machine? I explore one way of achieving this.
The ZX80 reaches 44 plus the new Chroma 80
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January 2024 is the 44th anniversary of the launch of the ZX80. Coinciding with that is the launch of the Chroma 80 expansion which adds some neat features to the ZX80. I have a look at the ZX80 and Chroma 80, along with some software that pushes the ZX80 beyond what the engineers dreamed of. The Chroma 80 is available from www.fruitcake.plus.com
Amiga 3000 PSU build
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Getting hold of an original A3000 PSU is impossible so I try out the new A3000 PSU enclosure by Szymon Gosk (arymanx), modding a PSU in the process. Warning: if you are thinking of trying this mod yourself, this is a serious project and mistakes could damage your Amiga or cause injuries.
Fun with windows
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As a programming challenge, I modified my DSP software to run in Workbench windows
What Might Have Been
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There's a real lack of software for the DSP chip on the Amiga AA3000 prototype and its modern recreation, the AA3000 . What might have been if that prototype had been put into production? I have a go at my very first demo program to see what could have been possible.
Prelude Sound Card Remake
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The original Prelude sound card was created by Thomas Wenzel and then produced and sold by Albrecht Computer Technik in the 90s. Recently, the card was recreated by alf24de in coordination with Thomas. I try out a half length version of that card by AmigaDigital and test it out on playing MP3s.
WhichAmiga Extended
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WhichAmiga is a great program for telling us about the hardware in our Amigas but it hasn't been updated for at least 15 years. I took the source code and made some changes to bring it up to 2022, and fix some bugs in the process.
100MHz 68060 - the BFG9060
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The BFG9060 is a new accelerator card for the Amiga A3000 and A4000. Not only does it support 68060 processors at 50MHz but it can overclock them up to 100MHz. I check out this card and compare its performance against the classic CyberStorm Mk2 card from Phase 5
A first look at the Freeway Pro card for the Amiga
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A first look at the Freeway Pro card for the Amiga
Review of the Spectra+128 and Chroma 81
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Review of the Spectra 128 and Chroma 81
Futureproofing video on retro computers
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Futureproofing video on retro computers
PCI PowerPC cards on the Amiga - a deep dive
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PCI PowerPC cards on the Amiga - a deep dive
Amiga AA3000+ Part 7: DSP Breakthrough!
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Amiga AA3000 Part 7: DSP Breakthrough!
How much does a board like that, fully finished and ready to be put in an A3k case, cost in USD (or Euros) today?
Probably best to ask hese on his Amibay sales thread for the AA3000+ if he'd build one for you and at what cost. You would need to supply all the components, including the custom chips which are now difficult/expensive to find.
@@wrangleramiga896 Are we talking about 500 dollars or even 1000?
Do you need the INT6 mod on an AA3000+?
So I've been told, yes, but I haven't checked this myself
The A3000 was my dream computer, but I could only afford an Amiga 500 Plus. 🥺
Its a cool card for sure and I like mine, but 2 issues with it. No native screen mode pass through. This can be fixed and some are apparently working on it. 2 monitors in 2024 sucks. The other is the INT6 mod. I just got a ReA3000 this year and its a damn shame to run a hackish bodge wire on a brand new board IMO. Guess the 3660 will stay on my AGA boards.
Looked like a nice upgrade, BUT regarding the FPGA board: "Product available only to OEM/EMS and design business customers. Product is not shipped to consumers in the EU or the UK". Unfornunately at this point I'm out.
Some of the builders will be able to include the zturn too if you ask
Wrangler, could you please do an AmiTCP setup for everyone to see please? It's a right royal pain and guidance would be very helpful indeed 😊
Another brilliant video =D It's amazing to see this fantastic card being pushed further with new features and optimizations!
I really need to build my Z3660, got the board and some of the parts already.
I doubt you'll be disappointed!
Very informative video Wrangler! Thanks for making it!! The voltages showing zero should be fixed in the next beta according to shanshe.
Good to know! Thanks Darren
Interesting ...
What about Doom benchmarks with 68060 @ 100Mhz or soft68K and RTG?
why was it important to transfer the install.svga file on a MSDOS disk rather than a AmigaDOS disk?
As i recall, Amix doesn't have a driver for AmigaDOS disks, only MSDOS...
@@wrangleramiga896 oh. I just thought that when you accessed /mnt/dsk/fd0 it was an amiga disk.
why is the TF360 unobtainium - now several years into its existence? This amounts to teasing your audience - mercillessly...lol
??Have you asked the usual TF accelerator builders? I didn't have any difficulty getting one
Is there any place where you can buy a pre-built Z3660?
Yes. Sellers I know of (there may be others) are Kavanoz on the Z3660 Discord that's linked from Shanshe's github page (right at the bottom): github.com/shanshe/Z3660/tree/main, torsti76 was selling them for those on a1k.org but may have temporarily stopped as I write this, and 8 bit dreams has a sale thread on Amibay.
The 68060 actually has at least one missing CPU instruction compared to the 68040 (possibly FPU not sure), possibly more than one. These were removed at the time so that the CPU could be clocked way faster and because the missing instruction could be ran faster in software especially when the clocks were that much faster.
hard balls are the best, lol
Over half an hour on the CD32 and didn't mention the fact it plays games from CD or even open the lid to show it! lol I've only got one of the basic fast ram boards for my riser card might get an 030 one day but i have 060's in my A4000 and an A1200 for when I need more power.
The TF360 is a thing of beauty. So much utility for the little machine.
The channel ive been looking for for years! Why now youtube algo? Why only now??? Subbd.
Great video! I love my CD32. You are correct about the 68060LC being less expensive, but it really cripples the 68060. Games are fairly incompatible with the 68060 - much more so than the 68030 - so the 68060 really shines on the Amiga for Demos and professional software, which requires an FPU to really shine. The 68060 power is wasted on the LC version for the Amiga. Since the CD32 is missing so many critical ports and expansion capabilities, running professional software on it and using it as a full blown computer is fairly expensive and difficult. To sum it up, I think the TF 68030 card is a better choice for the CD32 for the increased game compatibility, and save the 68060 for an A1200 or A3000/4000 where it's power can really be used. At least that's my theory.
The 060 incompatibilities are like any other Amiga so really only start to creep in when you are running original software directly from floppy or CD-ROM, this probably affects the CD32 less than the A1200 because the CD32 doesn't have a floppy drive, also the TF360 can be disabled for playing original CD32 titles, unlike the TF330 which has a disable bug present on most machines. This really sucks as it means you have to physically remove the expansion card if you have a troublesome game, and to make matters worse some older firmwares on TF330 break NVRAM compatibly. The TF360 really shines as a on demand 'Turbo' WHDload machine, with 060 you get almost the whole Amiga games library depending on processor. I own both the TF330 and TF360 and feel at least WHDload the TF360 may actually edge ahead of the TF330 in terms of compatibility, but it's certainly no worse. The downside of the TF360 which I don't think was mentioned in this video is the CDROM drive can't presently be used on the most recent firmware. It's really subjective from person to person whats best, for me having the working disable jumper and much faster performance makes the TF360 a better product and bang for buck.
It was still sold in the usa as i had 1 they were sold at commodore amiga computer shops which those were the ones that came from Canada how we have ntsc models
Those NTSC versions really are fairly uncommon!
Wing commander doesn't run well on 060?
It runs too fast, however there are special versions of Wing commander that the speed can be adjusted .
22:10 that could have been true had they released it with some fast ram
Would it have made much difference? Incidentally if you have an FVM card installed in your CD32 and run the same video, it automatically plays it in full screen.
@@uberdude2555 it would run twice as fast it would be quite a speed bump, not to say that it could help a lot regarding games
Brilliant video =D
The LC version isn't the best for building a render farm, or to do a quake lan party, but for everything else it's quite a nice CPU 👍🏻
I’d say Tinybobble is on par with the X68000 version.
fancy!
Is there any way to 32GB of RAM modules into that machine so that it becomes stable.
What about a 256GB SSD interfaced to the computer via a SCSILVD -->SSD adapter.
Ah wow - I've found some 20mm ones on eBay, 15 in a pack, will try those! I went with metal balls, and whilst they work fine they do need a mod to the roller =/
Yep, sounds like the same thing although I got my pack off Amazon
I feel like somewhere along that mouse's life, someone did actually use a piece of candy as a mouse ball. (Dale423)
Always good to see more accelerators for classic machines.
network play work?
Yes - I did a video showing network play that I posted shortly after this one.
Well there will be a giant speedup in CPU processing.But the speed of the zorro bus will remain the same and all the power of the processor will be only for mathematical data processing.
Do I need to do this upgrade in order to use a PCI graphics card? I don't plan to install any other PCI cards.
My memory is growing quite hazy on this but I think you only need DMA for Warp3D. I could be wrong though
This is the best ZX80 review ever. Insta-subscribe.
Wow, only 5000 units sold.
Browsing Amiga stuff => blown away 24h/7!!! 😮😮 Amiga makes everything possible. The HW + OS is flexible like rubber!
I'm building one and putting it in my A3000, that is broken at the moment. It will be an adventure for sure 🙂
I have a question regarding picasso96, I am using the old 2.0 version, but I noticed there are some new 3.x versions commercially available. Do you know if it's worth paying for this (since in the end we're not running actual Picasso cards but just emulated stuff) ? I'm not sure and the vendor does not clearly make it an obvious answer.
I'm not sure I can answer whether P96 v3+ is worth paying for but it would support the continued development of the software and therefore bug fixes/new features eg multi-monitor support. Picasso96 supports all sorts of gfx cards, not just Picasso cards and v3+ supports some cards not covered by v2. I guess the question really is, is there a good reason not to pay to upgrade?
@@wrangleramiga896 that seems to be a reasonable reason to do it of course, but I also would love to see if it's useful on a technical level, especially on a emulated platform :-) thanks
Good stuff!
Thanks!
Quake's 21.34 fps is close to Pentium 90. BFG 9060's 17.53 fps is close to Pentium Overdrive 83 Mhz which is below Pentium 75's results
Technically, this is all exceptionally clever, if ridiculously expensive, and had the Amiga world had an affordable PPC solution back in the day, there might even be some decent software to take advantage of it. But with CBM gone, and the usual rivalries and politics between respective developers, PPC on the Amiga was doomed. Perversely, you can buy an old PPC based Mac with 1 or 2 (much faster) CPUs for peanuts, run UAE on it, and still get performance far better than any real Amiga. And most old PPC Macs run native versions of Quake 1/2/3 far better than any Amiga too. 🫤
Circles should be round, not ovals.
It could be the monitor's scaling or the capture device's behavior
No the pixel aspect ratio is off in the sysprefs screen settings. You would know this if you had yourself an AMIGA 'back in the day'.@@AdamPolkosnik
@@liquidmandotcomRight, because I did
@@liquidmandotcom I have a screen that can't switch between 16:9 / 4:3 automatically... it support both modes, but you have to tell the screen manually if you want it display in 4:3 or in 16:9... so I run my AmigaONE X5000 in 1920x1080 and all is fine and dandy, but if I launch a game, lets say Quake that opens up an 800x600 screen, the monitor will then strech the image to fit the screen, unless I manually tell it to use the 4:3 aspect ratio instead.
what's a bipmap? :-D
90 degrees HDMI also probably works?
In an A4000, yes. In an A3000, no...
It looks really promising and blurs the lines between emulation and actual hardware to a point I just can't see which side of the line I'd be on! I think the people behind this have put in a lot of effort and it really shows. I still think I'm happy with my BFG9060 and Pimiga on a NUC for extreme performance. Great video as always!
Thanks Wrangler 👍🏻 For the RTG side, can Warp3D be used? What are your impressions in relation using this over a Mediator or Prometheus setup with a Voodoo or Radeon RTG setup? Any known issues or conflicts with Z3 cards, such as SCSI? Cheers 🍻
No Warp3D on the Z3660... yet! Shanshe is working on something though. Difficult to compare the Z3660 with the Mediator/Prometheus as they have more flexibility via PCI slots but the advantage of the Z3660 is that it is all-in-one. The only conflicts I'm aware of are with add-ons with DMA (eg A3000 SCSI, A4091) but again - watch this space!
DSP comparison: RAM) Atari Falcon DSP56001: 24k x 24bit word 0-waitstates; Amiga 1200 DSP3210: 2k x 32bit word. MIPS) Falcon: 16MIPS; A1200: 12.5MIPS. MHz) Falcon: 32MHz; A1200: 50MHz. MATH) Falcon: 56bit integer; A1200: 40bit float. Access to the RAM/CPU) Falcon: 2x fast DMA plus direct access to 68030; A1200: direct access to Fast RAM (only longword, no byte/word access)
Cool video. Just to clarify, 1) 31:00 Atari Falcon had full 32bit bus (e.g. for video chip Videl), but 68030 had 16bit access to it (the same as Alice in A1200). 2) Bus bandwidth: Falcon Read: 5.3MB/s; Write: 6.5MB/s; A1200 Read: 4.5MB/s; Write: 6.9MB/s. 3) Access to the RAM: Falcon: 4 cpu cycles 16bit; A1200: 8 cpu cycles 32bit;