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I really appreciate that, thank you

Maybe, but I didn’t get paid to make this video and I don’t get to keep these lenses. Everything I say in this video is my personal opinion and I think these lenses are really awesome. You sound less optimistic about them, what do you think is wrong with the Arles Primes?

@jakehayden998 I haven't tested them, honestly I think they're overpriced. The title of the video was a question and I already knew the answer. When everybody talks about a product it's usually just marketing. So i admit it, I clicked just to answer the question not because I'm interested in these lenses. Fortunately, these days everyone can find a suitable lens option in every price range. We're lucky.

⁠@@crs2crs2what’s your verdict of them? Why do you rate them as overpriced?

I would love to check out a set of Meike lenses at some point, I’ve never used them. Do you have any?

Oh dang, you got me

It’s an Edelkrone Focus One. I love it as far as single rail follow focuses go

Are you asking if I added or reduced the vignetting in post? I didn’t affect the vignetting or distortion at all

Think about holding trying to hold a metal pole stable from the middle, it’s very easy. But if you hold the same pole from one side, it would be incredibly hard to keep the other end stable. This is the exact same scenario but on a shrunken scale, if the sensor isn’t balanced and you’re fighting to keep it balanced, it will introduce extra shake. Simply adding weight CAN help, but an unbalanced rig won’t do your footage or muscles any favors

I actually have been keeping my eye on the Dulens APO Mini Primes for a while and would love to check them out at some point, they’re definitely on the list

I guess it depends on the size of the Vmount you have. If it’s a smaller one it might be hard to keep it balanced, and I would also recommend a lens support for a smaller rig. I’m sure other filmmakers have used that combo though and the footage is probably insane. Open gate would be really nice with these lenses

Thanks for the kind words, I really appreciate that. I would loove to do a review of the Dulens APO mini primes at some point. I love all the test footage I’ve seen so far

Assuming you are getting footage in bright daylight for relatively high end productions where color accuracy is paramount, you can get IRND filters (circular or rectangular) or a separate IR filter and a multi-step matte box to combine with regular NDs. Whatever you choose, it will set you back a good chunk of money. And you will still need to be careful in the coloring steps of your post-processing, especially if the NDs you choose are cheap, because those will likely introduce color casts similar to the one demonstrated in the video. If you're OK with some very minor color cast but still need NDs, I would recommend getting a single circular variable ND for the diameter of your larger lens, and get step-up rings for the other lenses.

Honestly, that’s why I’m here as well

The vespids are less “corrected” so they will have more imperfections. The Arles are much cleaner and open up a bit wider (T2.1 vs T1.4). The Vespids are also a lot smaller

I should also add that you have quickly become my favorite creator in the camera/filmmaking space! Keep doing what you're doing and I have no doubt you will see this channel really take off!

Thanks for the acknowledgement and explanation!

Nice catch

If it matters at all, I have noticed no color shifting at all before and after I installed the OLPF (athough I haven't used a color chart to definitively say if theres any difference at all). The ir pollution does indeed get worse and worse with the NDs, which means you're right, you could instead use an external ND with IR filtration . But the whole point of the Rawlite OLPF is to remove all of those variables and to fix the problem with a single step. I would much rather "fix" the internal NDs than ignore them all together and have to worry about using IR filtration on all of my lenses/ matte box. Since you're interested, no, this video isn't sponsored. I approached Rawlite with the idea for this video and asked if they were interested in sending the OLPF out, and they ended up kindly agreeing , but no money changed hands at any point.

Yes you can. We've measured the transmittance curve of the existing IR absorption filter with a spectrophotometer and made the IR absorption layer of our Rawlite OLPF accordingly. The IR cut is only effective in the part of the spectrum where IR should be zero.

I pitched the idea for this video to Rawlite and asked if they wanted to send the filter out, and they kindly agreed to. What Blackmagic camera are you using right now?

@jakehayden998 I've got the Ursa 4.6K G2 + pocket 4K + Canon R5. The Ursa has given me some moire problems in a few situations. It's a shitty thing to see once you get the footage on your computer 🙄

@@KaarloMedia You'll never regret installing the Rawlite OLPF. They are specifically designed for each sensor to prevent moiré and aliasing. We measured the spectral transmittance of the existing filter to maintain the same tint. We added a IR cut coating, designed to only cut IR where it is expected to be zero. There's more 'magic', but we can't reveal it all. Just look at the decrease in chromatic aberration in the enlarged shot of Sachtler logo on the bag.

How hard was the install on the 6k Pro?

Softer and more blurry?

@ not very hard at all!

Haha nice, you got me

I stopped he damn video 1 minute after reading this comment. what in the f***. Yea that's a perfect price. Two truck payments and I can have a filter for my camera Jesus. This damn photo world is overpriced and so dodgy right now

@@mediaflmcreationTony, when I first got started Betacan SP packages with a nice fujinon zoom, tripod was $80K. My Arri SR3 Highspeed Package with S16 Optex converted zooms and ZEISS primes was over a quarter mil- new. These are the days of insanely cheap gear my friend, really focus on your immediate needs and grow intelligently. Good luck Tony and take care of yourself. Cheers.

​@@mediaflmcreation What's the price of your best lens? And do you use it all the time? An OLPF is doing its work with any lens and every shot you make. This Rawlite 4.6K OLPF is custom designed for the Blackmagic URSA mini Pro 4.6K sensor to prevent (color moiré) which can ruin your footage (talking about expensive). The same filter has a very effective IR coating that filters IR for all your lenses, because it sits in the camera, behind the lens. Thus no need for different diameter filters. All professional cinema camera's of brands like Canon, ARRI, Sony implement an OLPF. It's a necessity to filter out frequencies (detail) that the sensor can't handle and cause disturbing artifacts. And OLPF consists of 4 high precision made crystal layers. This is not a cheap filter, it's a high precision optical component.

Great, mention the price and your story is complete. Canon, ARRI, SONY, Netflix and many professional cinematographers see the need for an OLPF. Of course you have the right to think differently.

What Blackmagic camera are you looking at picking up?

Blackmagic modelled their 12K OLPF after our Rawlite OLPF, which we'd sent them on their request. They did so because Netflix only approved shooting with the Blackmagic URSA Mini Pro 12K if a Rawlite 12K OLPF was installed. After that Blackmagic implemented an OLPF in most of their high-end models as far as we know of. We compared their 12K OLPF to ours, and it seems they add in camera sharpness to the image. Judged by sudden frequency increase in the slope of the curve. We think the added false sharpness is not desired, should be a choice in post.

these precisions are very much needed.

Does a Mist diffusion screw on filter (1/8 or 1/4 for example) help to reduce moire?

Really great info, thanks for this

@@Giovanni-Giorgio mist & diffusion filters can act similar to an OLPF in some situations, but there are a lot of variables in how a given type of diffusion filter works, and as they're not designed for the purpose of being an OLPF there are often situations where most will fail more often than function. To go into more detail as to why would literally be a deep dive discussion on the details and differences between how various diffusion filters function vs an OLPF. If one is trying to get rid of color moiré without an OLPF they're far better off using a post effect of some kind over trying to rely on something like a diffusion filter. With that said I'm honestly surprised no one has made an AI color moiré fix tool as it could make many slightly older cameras far more usable. I would think that might be right up Topaz alley.

@@jakehayden998 sure thing, happy to try and help. 🙂

It does feature one. and it's wonderful. I use it with my Lumix S5iix and the 2 cameras work really well with one another