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Thank you for perfectly encapsulating how the uninteresting power creep made me fall out of love with a franchise I watched since OG Dragon Ball. My uncles even grew up with it in the 80s. I honestly think the most interesting and natural transformation was SSJ4. The whole arc of going back to their monkey roots and their lack of tails being a damper on their powers felt so intuitive. Even the tie in to SSJ3 being a primal, if incomplete allusion to SSJ4 was chef’s kiss. From there I could’ve more feasibly bought the transition to godhood. They’re the heavenly monkeys after all. Even things like Goku’s UI for having a giant stand could’ve instead been made into his giant ape form encircling him.

The forms these days feel like the fan fictions we'd find in the late 2000's when googling things like "super saiyan 5" etc, between UI, UE, Beast, Orange Piccolo, it's all stuff that would've looked fake back then

Cell in b? AHAHAHHHAAHHAH

Mellavelli is the absolute GoaT when it comes to Saiyan forms. His Absalon series deserves its own show. With that being said, when it comes to dragonball transformations, I wish they took a different approach with them. For example, the whole "lore" on why Goku was so strong was because he injured his brain and took away is "evil rage" making him more gently and docile. He basically lost a part of himself that was integral to saiyans. It makes more sense for him to stray away from "Super Saiyan forms" and lean more towards god ki then angel power like UI. UI in itself is supposed to be only used by angels, so the fact that Goku can wield it just ads to the story. Goku should have went something like SSJ, SSJ2, SSJ3, SS God, SSJ Blue, SSJ Blue Evo, then however many versions of UI he needed to reach the end. Vegeta is a royal bloodline, the Prince of Saiyans. It would make sense that he would be able to reach saiyan forms that other regular saiyans couldnt. Makes a cool story. Let him advance the saiyan transformations: SSJ, SSJ2, SSJ3, Golden Ape, SSJ4, Perfected SSJ4 (ssj form while in ssj4), SSJ5, Perfected SSJ5, and who knows what other saiyan forms they could come up with. Maybe even use his arc with God/Angels with Goku to take on a SSJ5 destroyer form. Imagine a big bulked up SSJ4 with purple fur and super saiyan blonde hair. I think they nailed the Broly transformations however. Being a Legendary SSJ means you wont see another one like him for about 1000 years. All of his transformations need to be completely unique to him. I would have liked to see the full range of transformations go something like: Controlled Ōzaru, SSJ, Legendary SSJ, Legendary Controlled Ōzaru, SSJ4, and then his final form be perfected SSJ4 with green fur. I also think they missed an opportunity for the half-breed saiyans. You could have introduced different storylines where saiyans fathered children from other races. Then the children get some degree of both parents. For humans they could have played on the adrenaline when stressed. Maybe something like an instant regeneration like Piccolo mixed in with a saiyan, just imagine the zenkai boost from taking lethal blows for all other saiyans, only to regenerate & live through it.

Can I get one arc in the Super manga that is better than the anime?

Go tell the creator 😅 he’s dead. So tell other people making the series instead of making this pointless video. Maybe they send you back a lollipop for your efforts instead of making money of their officially owned property

Ehh I disagree but I can see where you might feel that way, I think older fan are blinded by certain aspects of the show that it could never live up to their standards

Ehh I disagree but I can see where you might feel that way, I think older fan are blinded by certain aspects of the show that it could never live up to their standards

The problem with the new forms is that they weren't needed. Super should have focused on story.

I watched Dragon Ball Z before when I was a teenager!

Ssj4> lazy hair recoloring form

the cool thing would be something like Zeno declaring “no more….superpowers” and everybody gotta work it out without flying and shit

We never got a super Saiyan 5 😢

Imo, all of the forms in super werent well introduced, and most of them were poorly developed. Ultra stinky was the best one to be developed, the problem is that with every new arc, goku has to "master" it in some new way because "he is just starting to master it", which is pretty much a new form every season. This kind of thing makes the form look weak.

No

Dragon Ball ended with Z, everything afterwards is just a force story progression to milk the franchise.

I won't say this is the "definitive" ranking, but basing this off of both the anime (movies included) / manga continuities, I believe it goes like this: ( This also includes LIVING characters, so Granolah, Moro, etc. doesn't apply here, as well as any characters which new strength feats are speculated, such as jiren. ) ☝Freeza ( Three years before Chapter 103, or the Granolah arc, Frieza trains in an ambiguous ROSAT on a planet he conquered for ten years. This gives Frieza the strength to effortlessly take out Gas whose strength surpassed anything he's had before, as well as an Ultra Instinct 'Sign' Goku and Ultra Ego Vegeta in one hit.🤯) ✌ Son Gohan ( While Gohan may still be less experienced than Goku, the strength required to knock Goku out of Ultra Instinct in one hit while he's on guard is an insane feat. This feat is even greater when you realize that in order to land this blow in the first place, Gohan had to out-speed Goku in his Ultra Instinct State.👀) 👌 Son Goku ( Gohan may be stronger than Goku, but Goku's strength is still up there a little behind Gohan with him knocking him back many times throughout the fight, as well as the many speed feats presented even *after* Gohan powers up during the battle. 💪 ) 4. Bejita ( Vegeta may not have shown everything he has to offer against the stars of Chapter 103, being Goku and Gohan, he still shows his dominance against this even stronger Broly. Taking a direct blow to the forehead by Broly in his base state with no major damage done, as well as overwhelming Broly in a Super Saiyan State. ) 5. Burori ( The first fight with Vegeta did show Broly slowly start adapting to base, and even Super Saiyan Vegeta. However, a feat that is notable to mention is Broly shocking the rest of the saiyans with his controlled Super Saiyan state, even Gohan in his Beast state was shocked by his level of power. ) 6. Pikkoro ( While the statements of Piccolo being on par with Goku and Vegeta's level of power are slightly outdated, especially considering these feats were for the DBSSH MOVIE and not the arc, I do still think he is up there in terms of power. I just arguably think Broly has the better feats, as I stated previously. ) 7. Merus ( The angel in training was revived by the end of the Moro arc, and while his angel powers are no longer with him, he does still presumably have Ultra Instinct. At least the fundamentals of it sort of like Muten Roshi has done in the T.O.P prior. Not to mention without his angel abilities in use, he speed blitzed Goku and Vegeta at the beginning of the Moro arc, and successfully one-tapped them. ) 8. Gamma 1 ( This superhero was able to push Gohan into his Ultimate form and still put up a good enough fight against the former Great Saiyaman, however, being stated to be Super Saiyan Blue level by many, he would obviously be weaker than Piccolo in his Orange state, meaning he wouldn't really be able to do much past Merus level of power. Still, a great strategist and fighter who deserves this spot on the ranking. ) 9. Boo ( In the Moro arc of DBS, Buu obtained a huge strength boost after unlocking past memories of Moro, overwhelming Moro unlike Goku and Vegeta at the time who struggled at the planet-eaters magics. Buu having his many assortment of wacky abilities as well, I believe his power is still one to be reckoned with, and one not to be forgotten ) 10. Jiren ( His use of his power still being used to improve Goku and Vegeta's fighting capabilities long after the T.O.P really prove just how much of an intelligent man Jiren truly was, and in the manga he proved to not just compete with Ultra Instinct Goku, but downright beat him in the transformation/technique after simply...powering up past it. Truly deserving of the title, "The mortal who surpassed his God of Destruction" )

Fun fact this goofy narrator didn't even watch gt. Probably a gen Z'er 😂. I will make it simple in comparison. GT = teen titans, super = teen titans go. Your welcome

What is android 13 doing in the z tier cmon

Bro, idc what generation you’re from. A fan is a fan.

Dragon ball gt has the only transformation that in my opinion makes sense. Hair remains same color as base form, and has the fur of the oozaru which is the form most sayans take in the full moon. Also, dragon ball the franchise in general lost me after freeza lol. I liked the story of “once every so and so years a Sayan becomes a super sayan” it was a myth of legends or so. Goku became that. Freeza dies… the end. Then they continue and everyone and their mother can be super sayan and a bunch of new shit… like bro… shit don’t even make sense to me at this point anymore lol

Respect of power scaling/ balance, the plot and none of this power ranger BS

I gotta say, the biggest issue to me with super is just the power scaling. SsjG feels so useless now. I miss when it was a cool transformation.

The only transformations that genuinely felt powerful at the time were super saiyan, super sayain 2 and ultra instinct.

you did all right but i think goku and vegeta are still stronger than broly since gohan was dominating against him in chapter 103 and in the granolah arc even whis said that goku and vegeta are the strongest mortal in the universe although knowing broly power... so yes for me is interchangable with goku and vegeta 2/3 place

One thing that stands out on current artstyle is the severe lack of neck and shoulder muscles.

What is the background music?

Toei animation has nothing to do with pokemon it always has been animated by olm lmao their biggest series are precure, sailor moon, one piece and db

Shonen isn't a genre it's a demography. Also stop watching anime and read more manga

UI isn't a Saiyan transformation. There's only 5 Saiyan forms in canon

I’m a casual so super saiyan 3&4 are my favorite

Did his daughter bulla make him weaker

What you call a problem I call a feature. Transformations are the best part!!!

Ssj4 is overrated as hell in my opinion. Gogeta looks quite good though.

Kids don't know back in the day people would die from excitement if they saw these forms. Its an anime bro. Its not that deep. Maybe the real problem here is you.

I think my favorite part of namek was how controlled the chaos was, I got constant drama and epic fights and could still comprehend what was happening, toriyama is truly a genius

We have never seen SSG kaioken btw... SSG was just skipped, no explanation of God Ki, the only answer we got is little more details of the ritual. UI and MUI add sour in my mouth. Like wth, if you introduce it as an untouchable transformation that requires pure mind, then why Goku maintains it even in rage (like when Jiren shot his friends)? Why Jiren has even hit Goku in his awakened form if the form is untouchable?! I thought if your body moves on its own, then some stupid tricks like getting Goku from behind shouldn't work. And yeah, like mastering Godly Technique in 20 minutes is another level... SSB is cringe zesty ass pseudotransformation, like Gohan Beast. No special abilities, appeared out of nowhere, no design change - just fucking trash. If there's blue, then where's perfected blue, blue 2 and blue 3 according to basic Saiyan forms... Gohan was already wasted. He could be a brain of Saiyans, join Bulma in her researching or something and his knowledge would shine there, but he was presented as a fighter repetitively.

New hair color. So dope!

Just you wait for Super Sayan RGB

They were trying to do Dragonball like they did Ben 10 & Teen titans, it's a damn shame. Toei treats DRAGONBALL like a shitty commodity

Super just looks incredibly generic

Super Saiyan Rage above Blue is crazy bruh 😭

Where do I watch multiple these anime?

Ironically.. if Vegeta had gotten immortality.. he might well have just been subject to a long lifetime of endless torture at the hands of Frieza seeing as how he still was nowhere near his level.

Broly no.1 badass char ever created, Z for sure. Omega shenron A

Only.people.who prefer the z is the people who don't see dragon ball.from.the starts.the z is the start.of.the boring.e.repetitive.the og i s still.the best,evem if there are many great.things in z it s not better than the og

Bruh jiren literally whoops movie broly bruh are u slow or sum

Super Saiyan God had so much potential, mastering the form, healing powers and the whole story about saiyans being gods. Also how to achieve the form without a ritual. Resurrection F ruined everything.

DBS transformations are just lazy palette swaps of existing forms. Blue Kaioken looked really cool but if we are being honest, it's just Super Kaioken which has been done before. SSG is just a Kaioken with red hair, Ultra Instinct is just Kaioken with white hair, it's just...bad. Beast Gohan is just SSJ2 with white hair, Orange Piccolo is just a form of Giant Namekian but Orange, you get the idea. As much shit as GT has received over the years, at least they tried something NEW.