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GN Extras
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เข้าร่วมเมื่อ 5 มี.ค. 2021
GN Extras is an official property of the GamersNexus TH-cam channel. This is where we'll upload bonus footage (like public behind-the-scenes videos), occasional one-off Q&A videos, shorts, and clips (cuts from streams, etc.) from the main GamersNexus channel.
The Father of AMD Zen: Origins of Ryzen Architecture
In this special interview re-igniting our GN Extras channel, we have a brief discussion with AMD's Mike Clark, often called the "Father of Zen," to discuss the origins of AMD's Ryzen CPUs and underlying architecture. Mike Clark walks us through the early days, transitioning off of Bulldozer, and how Zen absolutely had to work in order to save AMD.
Find our main channel here: th-cam.com/users/gamersnexus
Watch our video with Amit Mehra on the origins of Zen: th-cam.com/video/RTA3Ls-WAcw/w-d-xo.html
Watch our AMD lab tour documentary: th-cam.com/video/7H4eg2jOvVw/w-d-xo.html
TIMESTAMPS
00:00 - Introducing Mike Clark
01:59 - Early Challenges for Zen
05:05 - When Did Zen Really Start?
08:08 - Succeed or Go Out of Business
10:14 - AMD Nirvana
12:59 - What is the Design Process?
Steve Burke: Host
Vitalii Makhnovets: Editing, Camera
Tim Phetdara: Editing
Find our main channel here: th-cam.com/users/gamersnexus
Watch our video with Amit Mehra on the origins of Zen: th-cam.com/video/RTA3Ls-WAcw/w-d-xo.html
Watch our AMD lab tour documentary: th-cam.com/video/7H4eg2jOvVw/w-d-xo.html
TIMESTAMPS
00:00 - Introducing Mike Clark
01:59 - Early Challenges for Zen
05:05 - When Did Zen Really Start?
08:08 - Succeed or Go Out of Business
10:14 - AMD Nirvana
12:59 - What is the Design Process?
Steve Burke: Host
Vitalii Makhnovets: Editing, Camera
Tim Phetdara: Editing
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That's basically the DeLorean of PCs
cool. can I just take my am5 socket and turn it to the other side? 🤪
I thought Jim Keller the chip designer was the father of AMD Zen?
I've used a couple different products from Ergotech with positive success. My desk has a back lip on it, so my monitor trees have to have a heavy stand vs clamp. Thanks for the video.
Interesting. Thanks, nice to hear people behind tech like that. How relatable is this person… i like this ‘behind the scenes’.
I still have an operational Bulldozer machine: a 2014-era HP laptop running an A10-8750 (I think). Originally bought it because the A10 APU brought _WAY_ better graphics performance than any Intel laptop parts of the era, particularly at the ~$600 price point I bought the laptop at. It remains in service as a second machine I only ever use when traveling. I do wonder if I might have made a different decision if I had known Ryzen was coming down the pipe back then, but I guess that's true for anyone that bought Bulldozer. Thanks for the interview!
Shame this isn't on the main channel, it's a lowkey interview but stuff like this and Lex Friedman's interviews with Jim Keller offer fascinating insights to us enthusiasts, Thanks Steve for recording this esoteric history!
After watching the documentary of this person, I feel terrible for what happened to poor Dave.
This guy is yapping about price and "premium products", I got a cheap $100 bike off of Temu and it's lasted me for 4 years on mountain trails. I hate price shilling a lot.
I still use that 14nm Ryzen the 2nd slowest ever, the Ryzen 3 2200G (4C4T; 3.7GHz). It has 16GB DDR4 (3000MHz); 512GB nvme (3400/2300MB/s); 2TB HDD with a 128GB SSD as cache (L2ARC). It runs a minimal install of Ubuntu with OpenZFS and VirtualBox. All the Apps run in the VMs. Interesting older VMs I use almost daily are Windows XP Home and Ubuntu 16.04 ESM. In 2019 the system could run 2 of the latest Windows VMs or 4 Linux VMs, but it is getting more difficult. As a true Dutchman I upgrade this month to a Ryzen 5 5500GT ($103; 3x 2200G speed). I reuse the 2200G CPU cooler :). Next month I also upgrade the memory to 32GB, because 16GB gets more cramped every year. Besides close to 80 I get too lazy to mentally re-estimate memory allocation, every time I want to start another VM. Note the system is still responsive, because it runs 98% of all disk IO from the memory cache (L1ARC, max 4GB; lz4 compressed). I have all Windows releases in a VM from 1987 Windows 1.04 to now Windows 11 Pro and I have all Ubuntu LTS releases from 6.06 to 24.04 and I added Ubuntu 4.10, 5.04 (the first and my first) and 24.10, the 20 year's anniversary edition of Ubuntu.
Mad respect to AMD. I'm still on gen 12th and ddr4, but when it's time for an upgrade, I don't care what Intel or Nvidia will be doing, I'm going all in with AMD all around. #amd
i thought it is Jim Keller, hmm...
How do I legally know NX extras it is not fake North Korean channel?????🤣🤣🤣
They had to bulldoze the bulldozer i am happy how everything worked out
Moden day Zen master?
I'm feeling pretty good that Steve bought the same ridiculous boutique prebuilt that I want.
A company won’t invent anything… people do!
just my opinion but from all interviews i have seen of him and Jim Keller (5 or 6 of keller and 3-4 of clarke), i suspect Clarke is a "little" hurt about Keller being generally named as the father of Zen, while Clarke have been usually barely mentioned, in all keller's interviews he directly names Mike Clarke (a lot of times in each interview) as the real father and portraits himself as a distant uncle, but Clarke has constantly been adamant in coming off as the "sole or main/only" creator of zen while never even mentioning Keller or barely any other engineer, a little to eager to let everyone know he and not Keller created the Zen uarch. This is literally the first interview from him i have seen him mention a "Jim" (im assuming he referred to papermaster and keller) one time.
Or... just have screw heads that don't loose its magnetic properties in a year.
Lovely guy. Back in the days, I had a phenom 2 x4. Jumped straight to a ryzen 3600. Still have it. First cpu, my family bought for me a pentium 3 from intel.😂 Lovely days
I though Jim Keller was the guy behind AMD's come back with the Zen design.
Well deserved. Grace, Peace and Love of CHRIST JESUS unto all!
I prefer Zen Master... Missed Opportunity.
great interview! can tell this guy cares about his products.
6:21 sounds a lot like what Intel is doing, trying to make p cores more efficient and e cores more performant, except Intel is using them on the same chip.
I read about Mike Clark. The man is next level.
I'd say Zenfather is cooler than Zen Daddy but what do I know?
This makes me miss computer Chronicles
I'm still very sad the FX-8350 got so successfully defamed by the various benchmarks/marketing efforts and I think a really solid performer that was ahead of its time was left as a bad legacy it doesn't deserve. I know why AMD had to move forward and how important a fresh start was, but at the same time, I feel like all the guys who made some of those old parts deserve at least a little bit of credit for making a real price/performance choice - mine handled all I threw at it for years on end, nearly a decade.
Thank you very much for zen. I’ve been zen only since day 1
Zen 5 is just going back to origins.... Core count and IPC wise
I love these kind of videos where you can see behind the curtains. Thank you, GN.
mark is our generation x uncle
Pop a xen? Chill dude?
5:12 Ryzen 3000 was Zen 4... huh???
I thought it was lisa
This was, wait for it... legendary.
Great video thanks for uploading ❤😊
He pretty much said nothing worth watching this video… any bulletpoint or news for anyone?
This is literally content I know I've wanted since before Zen existed. Thank you! I always craved knowing what the former underdog was doing. How they did. How were they in this competitive space. What was their process? Their challenges. Love, love, love, learning about these folks in industry. Thank you!
You should've asked him if george did his Kennedy at dealey Plaza impersonation.
Phil Jackson and Mike Clark vying for the title of Zen Master: 👀🗡️ 👀🗡️
why was i expecting an asian chill guy instead of this chill guy?
Chad amongst chad. Thank you for making CPU affordable. I am definitely buying one after this month.
People confuse AMD success with Intel Failures ...
This type of video is amazing, seeing the people behind the tech, listening to the challanges and problems tha happened during development, helps also dismistify the products
still using my r5 1600 bought in 2017
ZEN DADDY
I would only have 1 question... Why on earth , can we not have the recent zen cores , whit an i/o die , that uses quad channel ddr4......... I know the future is ddr5 , but .. please , for the love of god , amd zen cpus should had allways be available whit dual or quad channel i/o dies... It would had been such a good upgrade path if someone had bought a suitable motherboard , say a ryzen 3600 cpu , 2 sticks of ram. And could now buy an ryzen 5000 series cpu , whit the beefy i/o die , 2 more sticks of ram , and Just be happy whit a good boost in bandwidth , and doubled capacity. Unlike now , many had switched to ryzen 5000 series , and realy are hopeless when it comes to the new ryzen. Motherboard , cpu , memory goes out the window. Hence others are hesitating to switch from 5800x3d , as ddr5 currently is a bit funky Both by price , and stability. Why we can't Just have nice things ? These latter people will likely gona stick to ryzen 5000 platform till they can. Whats the point then...
I thought Jim Keller was the father of AMD Zen