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Thank you! I really appreciate it 😊

Hey! I saw that and installed it immediately haha. Been waiting forever for that update. The boost feature is definitely a plus. I wish there was a way to choose when to use it, but I’ll take it haha. I plan to test it again on that mountain road to see if the performance improves. Probably this coming weekend.l :).

Oh for sure. I actually rode it around on some really steep grassy inclines and it had plenty of torque to make it up. The incline test was about 12.5% grade, which is ~2.5% more than the steepest section on South Mountain. I would have done the test up there but the trunk of my Mazda is a bit too small to fit it in there.

It doesn’t have the auto gear shift function. That would be awesome though :).

Thanks so much! This was a fun one to make. Almost felt like installing an umbrella and a food tray as well as throwing a cooler in the back to kick back and relax haha.

It looks like InMotion sells a replacement battery that already has all the plugs pre installed. It would just be a matter of removing the deck screws from the bottom and swapping the battery.

Yah the seat adds quite a bit of weight. If you’re above the max weight I’d recommend the gallop. The dual motors make all the difference. When you commute with it do you take it inside with you or do you lock it up outside?

@tomsgadgetgarage it would be coming inside the building with me. Security is kind of a pain where I work, too. I haven't asked them directly if I can bring a scooter inside, but I have a feeling ill have a better chance of slipping through the cracks if I'm carrying a folded scooter vs just pushing it inside with the stem upright.

Yah that 25% tariff is a bummer. Driving up the cost of all PEVs.

For what you mentioned above, I’d go with the Apollo GO. It does cost more but it’s a much more refined scooter than the other two plus it’s faster in every respect.

Thank you! So I use this one here amzn.to/4dAd60r. It comes in two sizes. I’d go with the larger bag in case you ever get larger size batteries.

That’s crazy. So basically the scooter was running in reverse?

It does have a range advantage and lower price tag. It doesn’t have a full suspension, but the front hydraulic shocks do a great job of absorbing impact.

@@tomsgadgetgarage And it’s 10× more comfortable and stable than the Apollo I had, which was about equal price… now that I think about it, the Apollo was more expensive

The update finally became available to me and I installed it yesterday. Definitely an upgrade haha. I will be redoing some of my tests :).

I blame it all on habit haha. I now almost exclusively use regen. When I made this video I was newer to the whole dedicated regen lever.

Thank you! It takes getting used to, but soon enough, you’ll get it. I’m able to cruise around the neighborhood with no problem. Just waiting until it cools down because the pavement here in the Phoenix area is around 160F during the day lol. My ankles burn from the heat haha.

That’s awesome! I’ve been enjoying mine as well. You wouldn’t think a little sit down scooter could be so zippy haha. Have fun! 🛴

@@tomsgadgetgarage yes you wouldn't. But it takes me where I need to go and back, comfortably and smooth on bumps

Mazda really does make some nice cars. Their new CX-90 looks pretty sweet inside. That Honda truck will probably last forever though. My parents bought a 2006 Ridgeline brand new and still drive it today with over 400k miles.

Hey! So in PAS 1 & PAS 2 the throttle is limited to the PAS limits of ~9mph and 15mph. You can go into the P-settings and set it so that throttle is set to max amperage in all PAS levels while retaining some limits in PAS 1 & PAS 2, although they are quite a bit higher than the default setting. In PAS 3 the limit is the 20mph for throttle. In PAS 4 & 5 throttle has the same 20mph limit but get you to speed much faster than PAS 3.

@@tomsgadgetgarage great info. I have an XP 2.0 and I have full throttle authority in all PAS settings but I know on the XP 3.0 it has the PWR and throttle is tied to PAS which I wouldn't like. Let's say your stopped at a road crossing, in PAS 1 and you need to give it the "beans" ....... no power, not cool. But your saying you can tweek it in setting to give the thumb throttle more punch in 1 or 2 ? That's cool. Thanks! I wonder if there is a way to put a lectric twist throttle on this bike. I am an old motocross guy from the 1970s, that thumb throttle is strange and it's on the wrong side!!! :)

The Segway updates have been a hit or miss but they have improved the experience for the better over the long run. At launch, scooters were overheating, ghost braking, plus some other issues. Those have pretty much all been resolved. They also released a new firmware update which unleashes more power.

@@tomsgadgetgarage I have the Apollo Go and it’s horrible on distance, but I do love the scooter. I purchased two and we’re going to return them….And they take 4 ever too recharge 😡

Yah sometimes the updates fix an issue but may take away from something else.

The acceleration was definitely a surprise. It gets to speed really quickly and smoothly. If they ever come out with a suspension version with the same ride experience, they will really be a force to be reckoned with. I’m tempted to take it up to South Mountain in the coming weeks. I feel like it could possibly do the whole route.

Thanks so much man! I wasn’t sure what to expect with it being a $699 dual motor scooter. I was actually blown away by its performance both on hills and on flat ground.

Hello! So these units likely wouldn’t be good for this purpose. The lower shelf is important for stability, and I’d be worried about accidentally bumping one of the lightly supported legs.

Congrats on the new bike and thank you 😊. The Cloud 9 seat is so nice compared to the stock seat.

That’s awesome. Yah I like cruising around in PAS 2. For the shifting, I actually took mine in to get tuned and now it shifts perfectly. They removed six links from the chain and made some adjustments to the derailleur.

It’ll be a night and day difference haha. Like moving from a Ford Focus to a Cadillac sedan. What I love about this scooter is its versatility compared to your typical commuter scooter. Having the extra ground clearance and suspension travel gives you way more options for riding over obstacles. Plus it’s got the seat which is actually quite comfortable if you need it.

Hey! Is that the latching/hook mechanism when folding the scooter?

So strangely enough there are no published torque numbers that I can find online or in any of the product documentation. I also don’t have a dyno to test it out on. They’ve got to be high though because the Climber really excels at climbing steep inclines.

Ah they have the title on the page wrong. It’s this one here bit.ly/3Wr7Bdg. It says P2 but it’s actually the P7. I just emailed them to let them know. Thanks! Good catch. It will say 1200W in the title and have the adjustable seat.

It does have electronic braking/regen in the motor in addition to the disc brakes.

@@tomsgadgetgarage So mild braking does rejen and full blown braking uses the pads?

@@tomsgadgetgarage There's another P5 version with fixed height seats but comes with shocks on the front and rear wheels. My concern is that for a 5'10" guy like me, it's sitting too low to be comfortable. The one you review here has higher seats with shocks, but no wheel shocks. What do you think? Which one is better?

I prefer the one with adjustable seat and handlebars. I’m also 5’10” and definitely took advantage of the adjustability. The 14” tires honestly do an excellent job of absorbing impact so no suspension really wasn’t an issue for me.

How much u weigh ?

So I got just over 24 miles weighing in around 204lbs.

@@panchovilla3493 I weighted 250 lbs, and they said (when I contacted them) that I should have gotten around 15+ miles of range on mostly flat terrain (I'm beachfront community). PS: My climber didn't have the turn signal feature...This is an upgraded model. Personally, I think it's fantastic, but not for me. I ended up getting the Inmotion S1F after they allowed me to return this one. I can get 20+ miles of range on the S1F.

At 250 I would have expected more than 9 miles. That’s good to know they swapped it out for you. How are you liking the S1F so far?

Yah my brakes started squeaking after riding around in dusty areas. I will clean them with some alcohol and see if that does it. Unfortunately with disc brakes, they are prone to squeaking, especially when riding around muddy/dusty areas. Funny story, Porsche actually published a video on how squeaky brakes are normal lol. Probably had to many people in the service department 😅

Valid complaint but every disc brake scooter is susceptible to this. Sometimes it's inherent to a particular design that causes more resonate squealing but a lot of the time it's just the brake pad material that the manufacturer happened to acquire through a particular vendor. Sometimes it's the rotor design or metallurgy. In any case, there's usually an inexpensive fix, for people who really like the scooter otherwise.

Hey! I haven’t tried the 2024 Apollo City yet. It’s definitely on my list of scooters to look at next. But they also announced a new redesigned version of the Phantom so now I’m stuck haha.

I feel it’s definitely got some kind of electronic limiter on the speed. It’s got so much power for its size and weight. Once you get close to top speed it feels like it could keep going forever haha.

So the Apollo GO also has excellent hill climb ability and acceleration as well. It comes out on top with higher top speed, suspension, and excellent lighting. But if $1,199 is out of the question, I honestly think the $699 price tag for the Climber is a steal of a deal, especially when you consider the power you get.

Thanks! Yah it was a couple miles in the heat haha. Looked a lot closer on the map 😅. My wife was like, are you sure you don’t want me to pick you up…nah looking at the map I’m only about 10 minutes from the car. 40 minutes later I’m still walking. Had myself a large Chick-Fil-A lemonade and a glass of liquid IV after that nonsense lol. I’m definitely giving myself more of a buffer next time.

I don’t recall, but I’ll run it down again and let you know.

I’d love to test their scooters out. If I can get one I’ll absolutely run it through the same tests to compare to other commuter scooter like the G2.

Thank you! It’s a departure from my normal multi-video format so glad you like it 😀.

So I’ve never tested a Joyor product before. It definitely has an interesting looking folding mechanism and quite a bit of power from the looks of it. What I personally like about the Climber is its simplicity. There’s no clutter, no wires hanging all over the place. It’s pure power in a very discreet form factor.

Both ..Good for the price.. But this emotion works better in the rain. 🌧️

​@@tomsgadgetgarage And between the max g2 and that inmotion, which one do you recommend? I have the ninobot g30lp and I want something with more range and that is a little faster.

@@rarbiyoutube And between the max g2 and that inmotion, which one do you recommend? I have the ninobot g30lp and I want something with more range and that is a little faster.

@@yngbiker7816 , The Joyor will have more autonomy than the other two! And it's 60V... There is a new one: Joyor S10S Z V2 🤭

The Max G2 has a more comfortable ride because of its class leading suspension. But it really does lack in power compared to the Climber. The Climber can also tackle much steeper inclines than the Max G2. So for that reason, if I had to choose between the two from a performance and hill climbing perspective, I’d go with the Climber. Segway is in the process of rolling out new firmware which brings more power to the Max G2, but it’s not available for me to test yet. As soon as it becomes available, I’ll test performance on both.

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Me too except i started jogging .every small hill even a bump😅is noticeable 😮

I think I saw 142F during the range test. I’ll definitely keep an eye on it when testing scooters, especially out here in the desert.

Haha I need to start running again. I gained like 25lbs since I started all this scootering and stopped running lol.

Thank you! 😊 I’ve been waiting so long for that update. Everyday I walk by my G2 and click check for update and nothing haha. But the moment I know I’m eligible, I’ll do a whole video on it. I used to get those updates as soon as they released them.