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Now the real question is - Was thinking this your free will? And how about writing this comment? Something to think about.

We can have a discussion about it if you wish to. I have a portal where I take one-on-one requests such as this. Please find the details here - chetannarang.org/nondual-philosophical-counselling-mentorship/ That said, I have a dedicated section on my channel on this topic. I would request you to go through the videos there first, maybe that helps resolve the dissonance already. Here you go - th-cam.com/play/PLGTAFgEsIneXCZ3f97K2PMdhStCOWgLMo.html Looking forward to interacting more, with an open mind and an open heart.

What do you mean?

This question was posed to me in my "Ask a Human, Not an AI" forum & I shared a response video a while back. Here you go - th-cam.com/video/Ec0kFJIYOhY/w-d-xo.html Hope this resonates and acts as a good starting point.

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Thanks. Glad it resonated! ✌️

You’re welcome. ✌️🙂

That is very true indeed. And thank you for reminding me of IF. Coincidently, one of my first videos on The Unlearning Playground was centred around it. Allow me to share it with you too. Here you go - th-cam.com/video/e0-RzFQii2o/w-d-xo.html Keep sharing the love.

@@ChetanNarangOfficial Just saw it. Loved it as well 🙂 Really, the messages in IF have so many parallels with Krishna's messages in the Bhagwad Geeta.

Indeed!

You’re right that the core message is the same in this song and in the Bhagawad Gita. Also, I would advise you to focus on the “nothing but” in your sentence above. “Nothing but” makes it seem like you’re belittling something in favour of something else. If both are the same, let’s consider improving our language to not belittle any one. Hope this lands well with you. Peace out.

Sure. Noted. Thanks for the suggestion. 👍

Thank you for your honest feedback. I will see what I can do. Thanks again. 👍

@@ChetanNarangOfficial if you crack it , where is the fault in sound quality breaking, then keep it sharing, I also suffer in my voice over videos having with low quality of sound ... Thank you 🙏

Hi Priti, It takes time to produce these videos and there is always a queue. Please be patient. Your question will be answered soon too.

@@ChetanNarangOfficial yes sir 🙏❤️

Hi Priti, I sent you a mail yesterday. Please do check.

@@ChetanNarangOfficial yes I checked out , but what is the cost of one one session, I am unable to find where the price

Once you choose the date and time, it will come up.

Thank you for the appreciation. Keep sharing the love! 💚

I quite appreciate your honesty in sharing this message above. And I am glad to see that my content is reaching you so well. I feel like there is a lot I would wish to unpack regarding the subject you've sparked above. Can you please do me a favour and ask this as a question in my "Ask a Human, Not an AI" portal? Please feel free to share as much as you wish to, because that ensures that my response, while generally applicable, does not miss the specific "problem" you were hoping it addresses. Here you go - chetannarang.org/ask-a-human-not-an-ai/ Thanks again. Keep sharing the love.

You're welcome, Mayank. I'm glad this landed well!

Glad to see this resonate so well with you. Keep sharing the love! ✌️💚

Thank you for saying what you said, Adithya. I appreciate your appreciation deeply. Also, on your suggestion - I have shared a video or two previously about Swami Vivekananda, and have shared messages from him in between longer videos too. That said, noting your suggestion. Will add this to my queue. Thanks again. Keep sharing the love. 💚

Thanks for the recommendation. I have never delved into "humanism" separately, but on a cursory & quick reading, it appears to be quite in line with what I talk about on The Unlearning Playground already. I think you could go through some of my older videos, and maybe there you find what you are looking for. Here are a few playlists that may be good starting points: On Self Improvement & Spiritual Growth - th-cam.com/play/PLGTAFgEsIneXCZ3f97K2PMdhStCOWgLMo.html On Purpose & Meaning - th-cam.com/play/PLGTAFgEsIneV3iHMI-GnS_YEf4lC-UpZS.html On life lessons from some game-changing books - th-cam.com/play/PLGTAFgEsIneVKswD2eQthRrCLLvmYbQES.html Hope this helps. Keep sharing the love!

Glad to read this, Saurav. 🙌 There’s a lot more where this came from. Looking forward to interacting more with you about these videos.

Awesome. Great to read this. The next video comes out next Friday! ✌️

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Nice. I will look forward to hearing from you about this series soon then. ✌️

Glad this landed well with you! 💚

@@ChetanNarangOfficial sir, I was have poblem because of this philosophy it is inherent in me by generation to generation by tradition at 14 I was facing some problems in schools and people's around me and also in studies I experienced and get in that some problems that you mention it's really help me to realize and get through that thank you ❤🌹🙏 sir . It's helps me You have a long life 🥰🥰🥰🥰

Thank you for sharing that! It is always good to see a video like this reach someone and help out in a real-life situation. Please do share this with your friends and family too. You never know who you end up helping out. Looking forward to seeing more of you on The Unlearning Playground. 💚

@@ChetanNarangOfficial definitely thank you ❤🌹🙏 very much

Sure. Noted. Thanks for the suggestion. Keep them coming! ✌️

Noted. With thanks! 👍

Thank you for seeing and appreciating that. Keep sharing the love! ✌️💚

Kia hai Sir. Iss playlist mein Hindi aur English dono songs ke "vishleshan" hain - th-cam.com/play/PLGTAFgEsIneUbAkDLCNB1Kyu_Z3E7NP9u.html

I appreciate you saying that, Priya. Death is indeed something that everyone should understand & absorb as an intricate part of life. Regarding your personal trauma surrounding it, I think my complete episode on the topic might be of some help. I would recommend checking it out too. Here you go - th-cam.com/video/LEFKeRVgYIo/w-d-xo.html Hope it lands well with you.

Thank you for saying that, Swapna. Means a lot! Keep sharing the love! 💚

I don’t think tumne video sahi se dekhi bhi hai. Ache se thande dimaag se dekho. Aur fir comment delete karne ka mann kare to kar dena.

The core purpose of saying "Are you a problem or a solution?" is to point the viewer towards the idea that there is a better way of going about things, which there is. There is a "there" there, and I talked about it towards the end within the context of the video too. Focus on that and rewatch if probably. You are good with words, and would probably do better if you look beyond them towards the nectar of what is being said, especially on this channel. And also, try and be a little respectful.

@@ChetanNarangOfficial You're dodging my issue about language ! I won't listen to more until you correct your language.

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I see. Agar baaki ki situation bhi aapke liye valid hai, I hope you find the courage to act accordingly.

There are a lot of videos on my channel which can help you out. If there is some specific question you have for me, feel free to reach out here - chetannarang.org/ask-a-human-not-an-ai/

@@ChetanNarangOfficial I hope I get my solution first , for writing the question detail , I spend a lot of time , to write this question

Thanks for writing, Priti. I will definitely check out your question, add it to my backlog and reply back accordingly. I cannot guarantee a timeline, hope you understand. Thanks again. Looking forward to interacting more.

@@ChetanNarangOfficial sorry I couldn't understand how to add it back log ?

I meant I will add it to my backlog, i.e., my to-do list of videos to be shared next.

Haha. I honestly hope you don't even try.

@@ChetanNarangOfficial what I didn't watched the full video what are you saying will it work?

Ohh, I thought you were kidding. Watch the complete video please.

@@ChetanNarangOfficial yeah

Quite true.

Thanks, Palak. Glad to see this message resonate with you! ✌️

Thanks for the suggestion. You should watch more of my videos to better understand my philosophy & understanding. Looking forward to seeing more of you in the comments section on The Unlearning Playground.

Thank you for that, noted it in my backlog. Also, if you have something specific you wish to ask me to cover, feel free to share it here - chetannarang.org/ask-a-human-not-an-ai/ Looking forward to seeing more of you here.

Many highly qualified thinkers and thought leaders exist on both sides of that intuition and the debate has been well subscribed and well-argued on both sides. I did not say consciousness emerges from desire. I said embodied consciousness emerges from desire which is an emergent property of having a "body".

Hey Jack, it looks to me that what you are pointing out will get resolved as merely a semantic problem in the follow-up videos Rocco & I plan to do in the coming weeks. That said, if you have a specific question/problem too that you want us to cover, please feel free to leave it here. Thank you for your thoughtful comment.

I quite like the channel description you've written on your page. I hope you consume more content on The Unlearning Playground and help us wield the truth in a better way. Until next time. Peace out.

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This is the realm of science fiction and an intriguing question, but not possible for the same reasons discussed in the video, but thanks for the question!

I appreciate your curiosity, and like Rocco mentioned in his reply, I too feel that this is intriguing but not possible due to what we covered in the video itself.

Or the 'being' can itself resist its 'birth' due to the familiarity of the womb, even if its discomfort is increasing. That, I think, is a very accurate metaphor for the human condition right now.

If I am following your line of thought correctly, the gap between what is being discussed in this video and your comment is the "just".

@@ChetanNarangOfficial Yes that's it Chetan. They are predominantly autonomic emergent processes of related systems that comprise the self, including the nervous system, the sensory experience, the neural pathways and their functions and heuristics etc. Then there is also the cognitive mechanism by which we associate all that activity and regard it as a "self", and the related mechanism by which we grade and organise which thoughts and impulses are more or less relevant. It is a level of complexity our language is often too ambiguous to make proper sense of and in our misalignment of language we talk past each other when trying to articulate or share our understanding of all that.

Some fascinating questions there. I will let Rocco answer some of them here if he wishes to. We plan on having detailed discussions on this very topic of consciousness soon. I will share the links here when ready. Looking forward to seeing more of you in the comments section here on The Unlearning Playground. ✌️

Hi Noel, thanks for the questions. 1) Plants have consciousness to a degree and quality that is different to ours. 2) There is a form of Desire expressed as Lithotropic, Heliotropic etc. meaning their branches grow towards the sun, their roots grow towards the earth. In humans an other animals, we pursue our needs in a similar way but we have an emotional story in humans we connect with as part of that desire, and we have emotions and psychological framing that we equate to desire. The field of movement and nature of movement of both thought and consciousness is analogous to the field of movement and nature of movement of the plant or the animal, or in sophisticated animals like humans. 3) I define Consciousness as Understanding and Awareness, we can say it is a substance or a medium but also the property which is carried on that medium. Consciousness can be concentrated in a personality, and it can be diffuse. If there is no understanding there can still be awareness and if there is no awareness, the intelligence of the design of Life is still present. Chetan and I will do future videos on these topics to help people better understand them. 4) As you can tell from my previous answers I can only ultimately look through my human lens but I am trying to use laws of correspondence and polarity and the principle of Emergence to extrapolate the perspective that takes in other purviews outside the human subjective.

@@EyesWideOpenLife Thank you for this thoughtful response. In response to answer 3) “if there is no awareness, the intelligence of the design of Life is still present.” It sounds like this ai may be an extension of our human consciousness, something as individuals we may have never fully grasped. Follow up question: Do you think this tool could be used to gain a deeper understanding of the condition of the human collective? Imagine Frankenstein but our monster is transplanted with a collection of curated thoughts. How would this “monster” interact with society?

@@noelcmercado Absolutely! I happen to believe the most helpful way we can think about AI is to think of it the same way we did shoes: Shoes helped us move faster, extend our range, explore further, and enter into terrain we would have been excluded from because of our natural limitations. But then also we can lose touch with the ground we are walking on, and sometimes as we know, there are places and moments in our life when we want to be "barefoot". There are some things that need the human touch. If we harness any augmentation with wisdom and discernment, we can reap the rewards while maturing in a way that allows us to appreciate and manage the costs and implications of those rewards.

​If you define consciousness as awareness and understanding then as a consequence, you, by that statement have to believe that bacteria are conscious. They are a macrocosm of their environment, are "aware" and "understand" what they need to do to survive and reproduce on that macrocosmic level. That is almost the limits of language and it is by definition we draw those conclusions you cannot argue with that unless you want to talk semantics and the meaning of words. I for one don't see the point really anyhow. Everything is consciousness, to a varying degree. Consciousness is not a consequence of anything we know or understand, but it is the other way around. It is because of our consciousness we "know" and "understand". A better way to put things is that OUR Human consciousness separates us due to "self-reflection" or "understanding oneself". We do most of this through language or (talking to oneself or others). Of course a dog can "reflect"and understand that this particular human is mean, because he kicks. Or a plant can understand ahh better go slightly left for more sunlight as their is a tree in the way, but they don't have means to self reflective and draw conclusions (we don't think anyway). AI doesn't self reflect. Or have intention, or derived any desire for that matter as it doesn't have consciousness like ours. Things we create always have a level of consciousness, but never to even a level that we generally expect it as even a rudimental type consciousness like a germ cell... therefore the question is can we transcend our own consciousness from our aparent desire to make AI conscious in the same way. Presently I don't see any evidence any such thing happening ever or for a very, very long time. ​@@EyesWideOpenLife

Well I think he did explain that in some detail. What sort of “support” did you find missing?

"He" is called Rocco-I am a person who is trying to help others. If you have questions I would be happy to try and help. If you are just here to kick the stones over, this is not a very skilful way of participating in a constructive conversation. We learn this habit elsewhere on the internet and we normalise it, but it is a cynical, dismissive, and nihilistic behaviour. The conversation si never going to improve if we keep doing this. Perhaps you can reframe your comment into a constructive question? Something made you respond in this way, to express your intuitions of skepticism. Skepticism is healthy, it demonstrates a desire to not be fooled, and to make sure opinions are not left unchallenged. AI has no such desire, all of its behaviour is what it is programmed to do. That there are emergent properties, that is, that there are things the systems do that were not intended does not mean that the unforeseen steps the AI took came from Desire, it simply came from an inability of the designers to understand all the possible reactions inside a system they set in motion that they do not understand. A gun can be dropped by a chimpanzee and it can go off and shoot someone, and the chimpanzee has no understanding of what happened, but it does not mean the gun developed a desire or has consciousness.I hope this helps you with you skepticism and also with the way you show up in community, online and in person.

When exactly did he directly tie anything back to supporting the claim of lacking "desire"? There is this bit that seems to have a poorly explained connection to the initial concern of "desire": "The seeking of the answer - or, the context of the question is not really 'understood' in any sense by AI, it's just a logical outcome of data that it parses and applies complex decision-making to. It's a calculation - a complex calculation, but it's a calculation. But the calculation is a servant of the request. It's not like the AI also secretly has a different form of memory where it's harboring its own information about the question." - If the AI does not "understand" "in any sense", then how does it perform so well at producing relevant responses? What exactly does it mean to "understand"? - I might even argue that to "understand" is to be able to produce "a logical outcome of data that it parses and applies complex decision-making to"... - "decision-making", which he himself attributes to AI (rightly so), implies and necessitates the presence of one or more objectives, goals, or "desires" in other words. Interesting 🤔 ... How would a decision be made without a desire? - He seems to also imply that the source of that "desire" is external to the AI model itself. That's what happens with humans too. Physical forces external to your consciousness/intelligence/self/etc give you your desire to eat and sleep and many other things (if not everything). We're all "prompted" or, in other words, it's all transactions and transformations of information through the interconnected universe... Not to sound too weird... It's just the truth, but the language around it isn't normalized yet. - Your brain does calculations that are also "a servant of the request"... - The AI does have a form of memory that holds information relating to the request... Otherwise it wouldn't be able to give a coherent response for that request... 🤔 Does he understand how AI works? Lol. But seriously... TLDR: he effectively said AI does have desire but also that the desire comes from external entities, but this isn't fundamentally distinct from how human intelligence works...then he demonstrated lacking understanding of how LLMs work.

@@goldmandrummer You raise some great questions which we will answer during the next video. Much of what we are sticking on here is the imprecision of semantics and the ambiguity of language, very hard to resolve in the comments section of a youtube video.