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Great hippie voices! I loled.

Some pointless clarifications for your amusement/edification: - Arneson played in all of Weseley's Braunsteins, because they played most of them in Arneson's Basement - Wesely is a retired Colonel in the US Army, not so much of a hippie. - Braunsteins continued to be played now and then up to the present day. Jeff Berry and Weseley both run them. Thanks for the Kudos on Tonisborg. :)

Braunstein Liberation Front are a bunch of Wankers!

Are the BroOSR the last living refugees of the forge now trying to resurrect their evil Lord?

I don’t understand why a children’s book about a family of anthropomorphic bears can cause such a ruckus.

The best part of this video was Pundit's stoner hippie impression :)

22:18 Evil sex? Dang, that book sounds exciting.

Punditry accepted.

I really don't understand all the OSR nonsense. Sorry if you or others reading this love the OSR but I was MORE than happy to leave THAC0 behind for a roll high, DC system. Super streamlines everything.

As far as I'm aware, in a Braunstain you receive a role, and an objective. All players compete or collaborate to achieve sth. They take turns with the GM when apart, and the GM solves it all with some common sense and a d6. From 1 to 3 you beat him, and from 4 to 6 you lose. The patron-type looks like that. They just add armies, and groups of agents to do sth in the game, like spying, etc. I think they're doing sth like playing a Battletech campaig with Braunstein elements.

watching at 1.25 speed, i can just make it before work ! =D

For some reason I kept thinking BROsr was kinda like BROcialism and I thought “what’s wrong with a bunch of bros playing some DnD??” 😂 Man was I wrong.

WotC has released at least 4 hardcover D&D books every year since 2018, upped to 5 in 2021-22, down to 4 in 2023 (but 5 if you count the Dragon book), 5 in 2024, 4 (so far*) in 2025, plus the starter set. I don't know where you get that they won't be publishing similar numbers--4 to 5 major products a year--for the foreseeable future. I think that's there tried-and-true business model, for better or worse. One splat, one story arc, one adventure compilation, one setting, and maybe a 5th something else (e.g. box set, slipcase, etc). *I say "so far" because they could still announce another book for 2025. There's an adventure compilation but no story arc campaign, so chances are they're something in the works.

17:26 regarding the tomato; have you considered that absolutely no one playing D and D has ever referred to tomatoes in their game ever!

They write only what they know. Now they draw only what they know. For Christ sake read a book you commies!

In 1969, David Wesely served as referee for a Napoleonic wargame set in the fictional German town of Braunstein.[1] Wesely set up a multi-player, multi-objective game, in which he assigned individual roles for each player, including non-military roles. For example, he had players acting as town mayor, banker, and university chancellor. Wikipedia has a pretty succinct explanation. Watching secrets of blackmoor, if you can ignore the background music, will also help understand. What I learned is that the BrOSR has definitely hijacked a term that is no longer necessary. The Braunstein had set objectives and single character players, while the BrOSR is not that at all.

While I'm excited that anyone is talking about Braunsteins, you''re intro is way to rambling. You need to get to the point quicker.

I have a copy of the original Braunstein rules. As I understand it, people were not originally assigned characters to play, but military units. The character aspect emerged one day in 1969, when far more people showed up, than could possibly play. That's when David Wesley started assigning newcomers specific rolls (town mayor, captain of the guard, university chancellor, leaders of various guilds, etc., etc.). Then a young Dave Arneson challenged the captain of the guard to a duel. Dave rolled a 3, his opponent rolled an 11 (I assume they were using 2d6), and the referee called it for the guard captain... which officially made Dave Arneson the very first player to die in an RPG!

The 1:1 time ratio philosophy is tied to the idea of ​​an alternate world running at the same rate as ours is simply a gimmick to make players feel like it's a real world. The 1:1 time ratio philosophy only applied between sessions ignores all the time manipulation in-game, where time stops for the duration of a fight, or contracts to make exploring a single four-hundred-foot hallway more interesting. Time does not exist in roleplaying games, nor does space and its three dimensions, or the creatures within it. It's artificial and imaginary, a representation. The absolute tenor of the 1:1 time ratio philosophy is just that, a philosophy, at worst tribal and dogmatic, and nothing else.

The rules and roles for past Braunstein games are available on the Internet!

Jesu Christi, pundit! You've been going on about this Jethro guy for over a year now. But what you never mentioned is that he literally uses the term BrOSR in his blog, AND PREFIXES IT WITH A '#' CHARACTER. Ultimate cringe.

It's a game people. I think millennials forgot that fact. I miss the pre internet gaming days when we never had to argue this type of shit.

This Jeffro dude is an odd duck to be sure, superimposing Protestant puritanism on RPGs is... odd.

I think you are being a bit uncharitable about 1 to 1 time. As far as I can tell, it's a way to keep continuity straight in a campaign world with multiple player groups. As a solo player, it's just academic to me. Still, your description is flawed.

I searched both patents and trademarks. The only registered IP under Fellowship of the Thing, Ltd is the Arncon logo.

I'd let anyone have the word who thinks they coined it. Just use "Braunslike" instead.

So Braunsteins are basically a proto-story game + board/party game hybrid.

You know what would be really cool. If you wrote the definitive guide too Braunsteins

Aren't you sick of all this IP coveting? Hard to make even a tribute without some slithering thing coming out from the gutters to sue.

I learned about Braunstein in the video about the origins of RPGs from the second Tonisburg kickstarter. I got the impression it was pretty freefrom but, especially at the start, the rules might be charging week to week as the guy running the game learned more about what not to do. As an example, I think the first one had the GM in a seperate room from the players, except for the one player he was dealing with at the time. This meant he had no idea what the majority of the group was doing at any given point.

Jeffro has stated that he is the most important person in rpg history. The Brosr is a complete joke!

X is for drama brainlets.

I got to play in a Braunstein (the original Napoleonic scenario) run by Wesely at GaryCon this year. (He's really not remotely hippyish by the way.) Really interesting and fun guy. (And I met Griff too.) Oh, and Wesely is very insistent that it should be pronounced "brown-stine" and not "brawn-steen". He illustrates this by putting a brown beer stein on the table.

I think the perspectives are varied. I am being accused of making lawsuit threats. The thing is, I can't because it is not my game. The discussion is a bit nuanced.Yet, as you know, most people can't fathom subtlety. 1. If you do not know how the game is played, then how can you claim to be playing it? 2. If you can't play it, why call it Braunstein. BRSORS are a bit too simple to get this kind of comment. So, perhaps you are doing a derived game? How about you call it it a ____blank____ stein. There is a long traidtion of using vairant names that goes back to 1970, or earlier. The Medieval Braunstien is what people called BLackmoor for maybe 3 months. Brownstone texas is the western themed Braunstein.The list goes on. Yet, some are using vague language to claim the Braunstein game as their own and claim they are the true leaders of pure RPG gaming. Well, they aren't. They are just attention seeking drama queens. As to the legal aspects. I am not a lawyer. You would be hard pressed to trademark Braunstein if you weren't David Wesely. Then people got all huffy about whether I and others are saying you can't even say the word Braunstein. I dare you. Go stand in a dark Closet and try whispering Braunstein. (Sarcasm begins here) The Braustein Police will drag you out of your house and set you on fire on your lawn. (End Sarcasm)

Yes it was free form. Yes it barely has any rules and the rules avaible aren't from 70's. I did my own research when some TH-camr try to start a narrative (and probably some marketing pitch) around braunstein. I heavily suspect that's an attempt to undermine Gygax. I'm not the biggest fan of Gary's writtings and I think the game wouldn't be the same withtout Holmes and Moldvay. But I hate attempts at rewrite history. That's true misinformation. P.S. : You actually mentionned Diplomacy. Thank you ! And thank you for properly explainning what a Braunstein isn't.

The BrOSR should use “Braunstein Style of Play” instead of just saying “We are running Braunstein” which they aren’t.

Sounds like I should learn about this game to understand where D&D came from.

Background could also be seen as a handy summary of a characters life until that point the adventure begins. Better if it can be summarized into a single word like Farmer. Personally I enjoy running games with this sort of abstraction, as it makes sense for the farmer turned adventurer to know a lot more about farming and simple life than the city born mercenary who can barely cook an egg. (Some people would say that's just good roleplaying, but have only seen benefits from the restrictions in creativy this provokes) I've seen some games break that down further into more granular chunks like social class, and you could also say skills do the same thing. But practically in play, I have yet to see any friction and only benefits from Skill + Background summarizing a characters capabilities. (Also I'm aware that some people are gonna say "Well the characters life doesn't matter until the game began", to that I say why pick a class since this person was born in a cryo-chamber and plopped out as a faceless clone specifically for the adventure)

Hey Pundit, Been looking over S&C and was wondering how do you roll or decide whether there is a village along the road not marked on the Gazetteer?

BOF is the RPG of the year. Love these videos, keep'em up! The new source book will be a must buy.

Honestly, SD is the pinnacle of mediocrity. Not good, not bad, just thoroughly “standard”. Nothing really new, but nothing too divisive, either. But the thing is, I already have half a bookshelf full of “standard”. As for swine on a couch, I liked them for a while, but as time went on I started to get a gut feeling that was only solidified by a particular livestream: they’re the TTRPG equivalent to Tulsi Gabbard: they’ll hitch their wagon to whoever will give them the most influence.

Yay! Meatball sighting. :3

the Domain Rules is helpful. I bought the vol1 and am studying it. I have always wanted to create a simple domain rules to create interesting world dynamics for my solo rpg

If I get more Alpha Blue from Venger he can take the piss out of anyone he likes. Besides shadow dark is derivative trash with a lame gimmick bolted on.

You going to respond to Basic Expert roasting you with his recent parody video?

The Left actually got everything they've ever wanted. If they admit that, they would either cease to be needed or they would have to admit ( as they are now ) that those are not really the things they really wanted.

This was my first clue that WoTC was evil. We were not hostile towards woman. Girls were hostile towards us and the game. Most people were. If you played D$D, then you were a Nerd and nerds got beat up and didn't have girlfriends. We were cautious and secretive as a tool of survival.

+1

Good stuff. This could mean a ton of paperwork, but making all gems "magic gems" could make for an interesting bit. Every kind of gem has some magical attribute, so now the party has to decide if they sell the gems or keep them for future use.