I saw the hallway where the writer symposium was 2 years ago at gen con becuase I wandered down there looking for a bathroom. It was completely dead. No one there, nothing going on, lol.
I was active in the art world for about a decade. Started as a studio hand. Long story short I was decent at it, agent, hanging crew etc. Eventually I realized I didn't want it, or finally got close enough to see behind the curtain. Generally speaking I was an outsider, but I learned to use anything to my advantage in order to achieve the image I was trying to convey& didn't hide it. Projectors, stencils, transfer papers, tracing paper, printing screens stamps & blocks whatever it took to get the image. I invented none of it, I was taught it. I can attest a lot of artists do the same but deny it. Wiley's Obama portrait was projected & traced. Wiley tried to hide it from his own employees. Wiley didn't paint the background either that was Dack Onemaus (Dack is 100% legitimate . Will Cotton used transfer paper & much of the background work was done by Kris Kuksi before either were known. Cotton is in the closet & Kuksi is awesome.Even Peter Max used stencils (not sure why really). Anything goes when it comes to art .
True. And I'm pretty sure that in a few years AI will be treated as just another tool the same way that digital art went from being criticized to being universally used.
The "woke writers" are experts at sticking things up their butts and shipping straight characters as gay. Basically conmen level of fan fiction writers
What's interesting is that the "no Ai art!" crowd pretty much lost that battle over the duration of a year. What it produces is just *TOO GOOD* for most people to support the idea of not using a tool that blatantly effective.
Yes, and the opponents of AI never stood a chance; it's professional wagon drivers complaining about the horseless carriage. Spread the word, share the video!
I will never use it, and I will not buy anything that does. But kudos to Pundit for using PD sources and for being forthcoming about using AI. I just don't want to be misled.
Similar to the Video Game industry. For more then 30 years, whatever if it is Box Art, Texture Art, Animation even writings etc; the ADs have always used copyright photographs, other pieces of arts, movies for not only inspiration BUT actually copied them and changed a few things to make them 'original'. So when close friends of mine get upset by this AI stuff, I point in their favorite games where the Devs got some of the stuff and this makes them changes their views on things. Anyone can be againts this AI art, sure... Keep in mind, though, most of the products you like copied something from another source at one point. Good video, keep it up.
no it just has been retreated and rebranded ,we won this battle so far but the war will not end until blackrock and vangard bleed out enough money to take notice
@@f2pcoder92 I agree the war's not over yet but I think even BlackRock and Vanguard are starting to take notice, more and more major companies are ditching the DEI programs. The high interest rates we suffer currently ended up neutering ESG's effectiveness
@@f2pcoder92 100%. They just went underground a bit like the mafia waiting for the heat to go away until they return. Political activist don't just stop. They want your children to hate thier country so that they turn against the population. Essentially they are a hate group funded by foreign powers.
I think the cultural turning point was actually the success of the Bud Light boycott. For the first time corporations saw that DEI could have large negative effects on the bottom line.
@@RPGPunditThe boycott was a turning point for the culture at large, but October 7 was a turning point for the left itself. One is the leviathan's grip getting weaker, the other is it's limbs turning on each other.
I don’t fully get that one should trans people not be in advertising ? What about people who overreact to anything diverse as woke ? I always get told no that’s not the problem but then people just act like yes it’s the problem they need to be waaaaaaaaaaay in the back then it’s not forced diversity. So far I can’t even notice em. Like they don’t exist
@@derrickjohnson4952 if your beer clearly and objectively overwhelmingly sells to working class men, trying to advertise with the trans flavor of the month is a horrifically bad idea.
@@derrickjohnson4952 I don't think anyone is saying trans people can't be in advertising but that particular product, as far as I know, has always touted itself as being for the blue-collar working man (or woman) and the whole trans thing is the opposite of that. Also, they pushed the trans angle. If it had just been them, in the ad, talking about how great the product was (like advertising generally is) it wouldn't have been so bad. Especially, since it was something that felt like something they actually use and like. I mean if you want to have a transwoman peddling makeup or a line of women's clothing and just talk about how they use that makeup or wear those clothes that is one thing. Even a beer if it feels like they actually use and like the beer but it just felt like they had never touched or drank it before and the beer was just looking for someone to get clout. It rang hollow. It's also interesting when people try to deflect criticism by saying 'It's just people who don't want any X or Y in anything' or they're just going around finding things to be offended about, especially when the left lives to be offended. They complain about movies or TV shows made twenty or thirty years ago for not having current-year values and write articles about them online.
BoF is a good example of ethical AI art. It sampled Public Domain only and didn't hide that it used AI. What would be uncouth would be using AI to make art "in the style of [specific artist]" without a good faith attempt to hire the artist. That would be a bit "stealing"-ish/ using AI specifically to avoid acting ethically.
I just hope that we don't lose the next Frazetta who might just need a few years of _the struggle_ to perfect their style all because AI can just draw it "good enough" to pass.😔
Artists do their work out of passion. But the effect of AI will be that a large number of mediocre artists will probably not be able to monetize their work anymore; on the other hand, stand-out artists of excellence will become creators of luxury products: art made by a real human.
14:14 Wizards of the Coast can't seem to decide if it wants to use AI art and content or not. If you're flip flopping on your stance, that suggests you're untrustworthy and merely contorting to seem like you're as up to a high standard as your reputation suggests.
@@steelmongoose4956 Could have at least saved some of their reputation by just making a firm stance that "We will use AI, even though you may not like it." But of course they don't take the obvious route.
They absolutely want to use AI, the problem is that they also don't want to alienate the anti-AI crowd that are some of their preferred woke demographic.
@@MephiticMiasma what about them? Just like when digital art came onto the scene, they're going to have to adapt. The difference now is that the former helped artists that weren't necessarily that talented to be able to make some kind of marginal living off it; while AI is going to make it that the value of mediocre artists will decline while highly talented artists might become more of a luxury item.
These people shoot themselves in the feet with these agendas. I'm sure a major factor involved in any change and reversion to previous approaches comes from a number of things, like not selling enough tickets to these panels, people who bring kids no longer wanting to go anywhere near some of these cons and loss of attendees in general. Taking a hit on their bottom line is the only way for some companies and organizers to realize they need to abandon the toxic liberalism trend. I went to GenCon twice and don't think I'll ever go again. I think seeing that they were paying people's way to attend based solely on ethnicity was a clear sign to me that it had degenerated into a virtue-signalling clusterfuck.
@@RPGPundit I agree for the most part, but there is a clunkiness to 5E. The new edition seems to be creating more of it than it fixes. It is, however, playable, unlike the published adventures.
WOTC have done AI art a disfavour by using awful generated art in their products. The digital artists they use are producing rubbish. This might be because they are being rushed or poorly paid or badly directed…but recent art in the books is poor. Look at the cover of the 5e Ravenloft book…cut out characters not even looking in the right directions to make the image make sense.
It's not antisemitism. The entire CRiT Awards list of inclusivity standards (no racism, no homophobia, no transphobia, and so on) reflected a left-wing progressivist political platform. GenCon had no problem with that. It was only when someone spoke out against Zionism, and at a time when the State of Israel is engaged in genocide, that this political stuff became an issue. That should be noted. You can attack Christians, Muslims, white men, 'TERFs' and so on without trouble. And Pundit wouldn't be disinvited from the con for calling anti-Zionist Jews 'self-hating.' But criticism of Zionism is verboten.
@@RPGPundit you have literally accused me of antisemitism in a conversation on FB where I disagreed with you. Nobody else was involved in the conversation except your Polish ass and my Irish ass 🤣. I've never made a single antisemitic statement in my entire life.
@@midnightgreen8319 Id like to see him cut his videos durations in half so causal viewers like me could be out in ten or twelve minutes. Yes we are okay with two minutes of pimping his books to start. Than get right to the topic for a bit. Finish the point. Finish off on his tangents or anecdotes. ~Brian
I saw the hallway where the writer symposium was 2 years ago at gen con becuase I wandered down there looking for a bathroom. It was completely dead. No one there, nothing going on, lol.
From what I understand, that was the normal situation for several years.
@@RPGPundit Shame really. I went to GenCon years (and years....) ago and it was crowded most hours of the day.
I was active in the art world for about a decade. Started as a studio hand. Long story short I was decent at it, agent, hanging crew etc. Eventually I realized I didn't want it, or finally got close enough to see behind the curtain. Generally speaking I was an outsider, but I learned to use anything to my advantage in order to achieve the image I was trying to convey& didn't hide it. Projectors, stencils, transfer papers, tracing paper, printing screens stamps & blocks whatever it took to get the image. I invented none of it, I was taught it. I can attest a lot of artists do the same but deny it. Wiley's Obama portrait was projected & traced. Wiley tried to hide it from his own employees. Wiley didn't paint the background either that was Dack Onemaus (Dack is 100% legitimate . Will Cotton used transfer paper & much of the background work was done by Kris Kuksi before either were known. Cotton is in the closet & Kuksi is awesome.Even Peter Max used stencils (not sure why really). Anything goes when it comes to art .
Yes, these are facts.
True. And I'm pretty sure that in a few years AI will be treated as just another tool the same way that digital art went from being criticized to being universally used.
@@RPGPundit agreed... I misnamed Cotton confusing him with a politician. His name is Will Cotton not Tom.
The "woke writers" are experts at sticking things up their butts and shipping straight characters as gay. Basically conmen level of fan fiction writers
The people brought into these workshops were especially bad grifters, with zero popularity.
I agree, the Baptism of Fire cover is really awesome!
Thanks! Spread the word, share the video!
What's interesting is that the "no Ai art!" crowd pretty much lost that battle over the duration of a year. What it produces is just *TOO GOOD* for most people to support the idea of not using a tool that blatantly effective.
Yes, and the opponents of AI never stood a chance; it's professional wagon drivers complaining about the horseless carriage. Spread the word, share the video!
AI art is trash
I will never use it, and I will not buy anything that does. But kudos to Pundit for using PD sources and for being forthcoming about using AI. I just don't want to be misled.
Similar to the Video Game industry. For more then 30 years, whatever if it is Box Art, Texture Art, Animation even writings etc; the ADs have always used copyright photographs, other pieces of arts, movies for not only inspiration BUT actually copied them and changed a few things to make them 'original'. So when close friends of mine get upset by this AI stuff, I point in their favorite games where the Devs got some of the stuff and this makes them changes their views on things. Anyone can be againts this AI art, sure... Keep in mind, though, most of the products you like copied something from another source at one point.
Good video, keep it up.
In theory, Ai could equalize the production capacity of a regular guy with that of a massive multinational corporation.
Woke is dying and we will be richer for having lost it
It's a racist and sexist movement. We have to push back.
no it just has been retreated and rebranded ,we won this battle so far but the war will not end until blackrock and vangard bleed out enough money to take notice
@@f2pcoder92 I agree the war's not over yet but I think even BlackRock and Vanguard are starting to take notice, more and more major companies are ditching the DEI programs. The high interest rates we suffer currently ended up neutering ESG's effectiveness
I hope that's true! Spread the word, share the video!
@@f2pcoder92 100%. They just went underground a bit like the mafia waiting for the heat to go away until they return. Political activist don't just stop. They want your children to hate thier country so that they turn against the population. Essentially they are a hate group funded by foreign powers.
I think the cultural turning point was actually the success of the Bud Light boycott. For the first time corporations saw that DEI could have large negative effects on the bottom line.
The Bud Light boycott was a heavy hit against Woke advertising. But it didn't cause a breach within the Woke camp the way that Oct 7th did.
@@RPGPunditThe boycott was a turning point for the culture at large, but October 7 was a turning point for the left itself. One is the leviathan's grip getting weaker, the other is it's limbs turning on each other.
I don’t fully get that one should trans people not be in advertising ? What about people who overreact to anything diverse as woke ? I always get told no that’s not the problem but then people just act like yes it’s the problem they need to be waaaaaaaaaaay in the back then it’s not forced diversity. So far I can’t even notice em. Like they don’t exist
@@derrickjohnson4952 if your beer clearly and objectively overwhelmingly sells to working class men, trying to advertise with the trans flavor of the month is a horrifically bad idea.
@@derrickjohnson4952 I don't think anyone is saying trans people can't be in advertising but that particular product, as far as I know, has always touted itself as being for the blue-collar working man (or woman) and the whole trans thing is the opposite of that. Also, they pushed the trans angle. If it had just been them, in the ad, talking about how great the product was (like advertising generally is) it wouldn't have been so bad. Especially, since it was something that felt like something they actually use and like.
I mean if you want to have a transwoman peddling makeup or a line of women's clothing and just talk about how they use that makeup or wear those clothes that is one thing. Even a beer if it feels like they actually use and like the beer but it just felt like they had never touched or drank it before and the beer was just looking for someone to get clout.
It rang hollow.
It's also interesting when people try to deflect criticism by saying 'It's just people who don't want any X or Y in anything' or they're just going around finding things to be offended about, especially when the left lives to be offended. They complain about movies or TV shows made twenty or thirty years ago for not having current-year values and write articles about them online.
BoF is a good example of ethical AI art. It sampled Public Domain only and didn't hide that it used AI. What would be uncouth would be using AI to make art "in the style of [specific artist]" without a good faith attempt to hire the artist. That would be a bit "stealing"-ish/ using AI specifically to avoid acting ethically.
To say nothing of WotC repeatedly suggesting they don't use AI art only to be allegedly caught doing so. Or this new statement about "final product".
I just hope that we don't lose the next Frazetta who might just need a few years of _the struggle_ to perfect their style all because AI can just draw it "good enough" to pass.😔
Artists do their work out of passion. But the effect of AI will be that a large number of mediocre artists will probably not be able to monetize their work anymore; on the other hand, stand-out artists of excellence will become creators of luxury products: art made by a real human.
14:14 Wizards of the Coast can't seem to decide if it wants to use AI art and content or not. If you're flip flopping on your stance, that suggests you're untrustworthy and merely contorting to seem like you're as up to a high standard as your reputation suggests.
They definitely want to use it. The question is when to stop lying about it.
@@steelmongoose4956 Could have at least saved some of their reputation by just making a firm stance that "We will use AI, even though you may not like it." But of course they don't take the obvious route.
They absolutely want to use AI, the problem is that they also don't want to alienate the anti-AI crowd that are some of their preferred woke demographic.
@@RPGPundit what about employees or potential contributors of art?
@@MephiticMiasma what about them? Just like when digital art came onto the scene, they're going to have to adapt. The difference now is that the former helped artists that weren't necessarily that talented to be able to make some kind of marginal living off it; while AI is going to make it that the value of mediocre artists will decline while highly talented artists might become more of a luxury item.
Bottom line: Money talks Bullshit Walks. They didn't need to cater to fruitcakes the writing was on the wall. It could take years to recover.
Some companies might take decades to recover their reputations. Some industries will never go back to what they were (like comics).
These people shoot themselves in the feet with these agendas. I'm sure a major factor involved in any change and reversion to previous approaches comes from a number of things, like not selling enough tickets to these panels, people who bring kids no longer wanting to go anywhere near some of these cons and loss of attendees in general. Taking a hit on their bottom line is the only way for some companies and organizers to realize they need to abandon the toxic liberalism trend.
I went to GenCon twice and don't think I'll ever go again. I think seeing that they were paying people's way to attend based solely on ethnicity was a clear sign to me that it had degenerated into a virtue-signalling clusterfuck.
Well put. Spread the word, share the video!
They’d probably make a better game if they let AI handle the mechanics. The adventures would certainly improve if AI were to write them.
AI handling mechanics… awesome thought!!
I love it
@@stevekeyD9Games It wouldn’t be my preference overall, but AI might rein in the crazy bloatfest .
The mechanics are not really the big issue when it comes to Nu-D&D. It's the aesthetics.
@@RPGPundit I agree for the most part, but there is a clunkiness to 5E. The new edition seems to be creating more of it than it fixes. It is, however, playable, unlike the published adventures.
Hasbro needs AI to attempt to compete with you and Meatball
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Is there somewhere I can see the original cover art commissioned for Baptism of Fire?
It’s AI art
@@xavierp7658 That's the current cover art; it was said in the video it was based on a non-ai commissioned work.
Not that I know of. It was the publisher's call.
"pretend they were agin' it but they were fer it all the time." LOL!
Pundit sounds 'woke' to me, with his pro-Zionist attacks on Jews who oppose Zionism for moral and religious reasons.
Squadron Leader is a classic.
It sure is!
Hahah I'm liking you more and more! 😁
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Can AI imitate AI art that has been edited by a human artist?
i presume so!
JdA? Luh mao.
WOTC have done AI art a disfavour by using awful generated art in their products. The digital artists they use are producing rubbish. This might be because they are being rushed or poorly paid or badly directed…but recent art in the books is poor. Look at the cover of the 5e Ravenloft book…cut out characters not even looking in the right directions to make the image make sense.
It's mainly because the artists were DEI hires. Not just that, but DEI hires that were chosen for being willing to work for little pay.
The whole "free Palestinian" antisemitism had something to do with them being canceled also... ah, you're mentioning it now. Carry on, hoss!
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It's not antisemitism. The entire CRiT Awards list of inclusivity standards (no racism, no homophobia, no transphobia, and so on) reflected a left-wing progressivist political platform. GenCon had no problem with that. It was only when someone spoke out against Zionism, and at a time when the State of Israel is engaged in genocide, that this political stuff became an issue. That should be noted. You can attack Christians, Muslims, white men, 'TERFs' and so on without trouble. And Pundit wouldn't be disinvited from the con for calling anti-Zionist Jews 'self-hating.' But criticism of Zionism is verboten.
Are you Jewish pundit? - Brian
No.
But he claims criticism against him as antisemitism, which is bizarre.
@@midnightgreen8319 No, I claim that attacks on Jews is antisemitism
@@RPGPundit you have literally accused me of antisemitism in a conversation on FB where I disagreed with you. Nobody else was involved in the conversation except your Polish ass and my Irish ass 🤣. I've never made a single antisemitic statement in my entire life.
@@midnightgreen8319 Id like to see him cut his videos durations in half so causal viewers like me could be out in ten or twelve minutes. Yes we are okay with two minutes of pimping his books to start. Than get right to the topic for a bit. Finish the point. Finish off on his tangents or anecdotes. ~Brian
+1