Arcade is super chill about the whole thing. He'll ream you out for blowing up HELIOS One and killing Anderson, but sell him into slavery and he'll just be _vastly_ disappointed in you.
I think that just shows how selfless he is. He sees great personal harm in being a slave to Caesar, but he sees greater public harm in power being directed to the orbital weapon, rather then communities in need. It is heartbreaking that you can do such terrible things to him.
I did it, on my full Legion playthrough, doing all what it and could be good for the Legion, pretty sad ending for him, but it was done in the name of science.
Imteresring thing too, as mentioned above the Latin phrase Arcade mentions at the start translates to " The victorious cause pleased the gods, but the vanquished cause pleaded Cato." And it was also said that Arcade disemboweled himself with a scalpel and his bare hands. After Cato the Younger, a roman Senator, lost the battle of Thapsus against Caeser in the Roman Civil war, he committed suicide the exact same way. With a knife and his bare hands. The writing of this game astounds me sometimes.
Arcade killed himself cause he was sick and tired of Caesar’s rambling , and lanius was tired of arcade’s rambling and had him killed. Now if this is not peak comedy I don’t know what is.
Fun fact-Arcade’s end in the first ending is based on Cato the Younger. When Caesar defeated Pompey in the Roman civil war, Cato refused to be pardoned by Caesar and instead disemboweled himself with a sword. Caesar apparently wept for weeks.
Hard to believe that he wept for Cato, I can see why he wouldve for Pompey, but Cato was just a massive douche, who was one of the major reasons why the pompeyans even lost the war. And all that running away to greece and africa, opposing caesar time after time, Im pretty sure he wasnt happy about the suicide because he couldnt spare him and show that he was the better man
Caesar probably doesn’t get many chances to exercise his brain by speaking with a very well read individual, while there’s no way of knowing I would assume that those conversations would be some of the most tolerable moments for Arcade as well
@@illyrian9976 besides that, the Legion openly shuns all technology that doesn't directly help Caesar, like the Auto Doc in his tent and the Power Fists his Praetorians use
“Victrix causa deis placuit sed victa catoni” - "The victorious cause pleased the gods, but the conquered cause pleased Cato" A quote from Pharsalia, a poem written written by Lucan during the time of the Roman civil war between Caesar and Pompey. One that describes both sides of the conflict as equally wrong, if for different reasons. In said poem Cato the Younger, a stoic man, realizes the Caesar, there depicted as a vicious power hungry monster, has won the war. He knows he will be offered pardon, offered a life under new rule. Cato instead chooses to take his life, by eviscerating himself, to die with dignity and honor. From the very start of his slavery under Caesar, from the moment he exchanged last words with the courier, Gannon knew he will take his life in the exact same way. It was no spur of moment - he lived with that thought for years.
I feel so bad for enslaving him now goddammit. I would've just gotten the auto doc parts but I didn't know about them I must've missed the dialog. And my medicine skill was too low to save Caesar
When the Courier says, "The world needs Caesar more than it needs you", Arcade responds with a quote from Lucan's _Pharsalia_ , "the winning cause pleased the gods, but the lost cause pleased Cato"
@@jamesserrano5619 It's a pretty common lament picked up from the poem - basically glorifies Cato going down with the side he believed in ("republicanism") even though he knew it would fail, rather than betraying his principles to side with the caesarian faction and win. I'm pretty sure it gets used on some american civil war monuments in the south, but its basically an ode to last stands.
@@cormacdonnelly365 Republicanism as it should be, instead of the one we have now, where the party has a Caesar-like ruler (ironically with brain problems), and the laws they made to control childbirth.
I think it's fucking hilarious that arcade got so fed up with having to be ceasers debate partner that he would rather kill himself than be part of one more debate with a hegelian cancer patient
@patrick leduc im pretty sure it's intentional, fallout is satirical after all. The kind of "i read philosophy once, now i know how world should be organized" -types of people.
@patrick leduc That's not Caesar goal. You're also considering that progression will always be better from our current moral perception, when it can and many times have been in a totally different direction from what people use to believe was good. Caesar also explain that he is only using the roman symbolism, not that he wanted to rebuild the Roman empire politically like it was.
Yeah, Benny was unlucky enough to shoot the main character of all people. You know how easy it would’ve been if he shot someone else? Vegas would’ve been his in a month
This game wasn't built from the ground up. It's literally an expansion of Fallout 3. All they had to do was focus on the details. So this shouldn't be a surprise.
Arcade and Caesar in ending 1 mimic the real life Cato and Caesar. Cato, being unskilled in weaponry, died after recovering from a suicide attempt and pulling his own guts out with his hands. Caesar, even in conflict respecting Cato, mourned his death. That’s some great work by someone at obsidian.
Oh no... He read a book and is making references literally 99,9999999% people wont get.. And even in pre war world. Maybe instead of reading useless literature, he should learn how to make stimpacks or at least healing powder.
@@Nutsaur I am one the wierd minority which actually reads this kind of literature. I read Odyssey around 5 times, but I never met anybody who read that book. And now imagine if I make references to it. Fecking nobody would know what the I am talking about and now imagine in post-apocalypse... Where most books were burnt in atomic fire or for campfire. I understand some latin, but everybody would hate me if I start saying quotes in LATIN. It would be incredibly pretentious. Gannon was with followers for years, he had prior Enclave knownlage and education. But he accomplished nothing. He cant even make anything useful or otherwise. Meanwhile Mobius can create better robots than anybody pre war (assaultron and military grade sentry bot might be better) from SPARE PART and he wasn't even expert in robotics, unlike 0. These two supposedly should have same inteligence. X
Once I'vee played and bonded with all the companions and learning their story it makes it almost impossible for me to do an evil playthrough and do any harm to them in any way lol
That's one of the beautiful things about this game, you can get so easily emotionally attached to the companions once you discover their personal stories
That's why to this day I have not killed doc Mitchell or rex or Raul once. I will admit I killed arcade before, but for a justified reason. He had some sick power armor I couldn't get because I didn't pass a speech check so I just killed him for it 🙂
Don't you get 3rd unique ending so long as you sell Arcade AND choose any one besides Legion? I thought the ending also triggers if you go Mr. House or NCR route
You can't sell him and then do house cause Caesars tumors only occur after the kill house quest. I'm unsure of how it works with NCR, but that might work as I don't think you're locked out at that point for the NCR
Love that Caesar literally cried because he lost the only guy he can talk with intellectually. Now he's just going to spend the rest of his life talking to his cult followers. XD
I can imagine Ceasar having to stop every time Arcade disagrees with him to stop some Preatorian from killing Arcade for 'defiance'. Ceasar: No no, I WANT him to disagree with me. His differing veiw helps identify any problems in my plans to improve.
I love how even after being sold into slavery by his good friend and now has to serve the man he hates more than anything, Arcade is still sarcastic and passive aggressive towards you. Best companion.
Arcade killing himself is doubly devastating because he picked one of the most agonizing and complicated ways to go. It must have been about sending a message to his slavers.
Not really. He chose one of the more painful ways to kill himself as a smug "gotcha" to the only other guy on that side of the Colorado who probably understood that reference. It's actually laughably pathetic and petty.
Right? I think the only companion that has it worse than Arcade is Lily, because none of her endings are really good. At least with Arcade there are a few "things turned out alright."
It sucks that Raul and Lily aren’t even very developed companions. I mean Rex has more content than them put together. At least I have Veronica (even though half the time I play NV, she gets a sad ending)
Only the post-Enclave Reunion Yes-Man endings are good for him; ironic considering that ending is arguably the worst for everyone else. Arcade having poor endings is a critique of idealistic thinking in the Post-apocalyptic Dystopia of the Fallout Universe.
@@whitegoose2017 There was a cut option for House's route where you infiltrate the Brotherhood and convince them to stay in lockdown or leave the Mojave. There were even voicelines recorded for House's reaction to it, but ultimately the option was cut because it would have made House's route too compelling and it was out of character for House to change his mind on the BoS
So you're telling me, Arcade is too morally lawful that he wouldn't stoop so low to kill Ceasar during surgery, yet was short sighted enough to kill himself? He was in the perfect position to slowly influence the mind of Ceasar. For such a smart man, he seems pretty quick to tap out.
That was kind of Arcade though. He probably could've had a larger role in the Enclave as well, but if an organization didn't align with his principles, he didn't stick around and didn't want to.
Never seen these endings because in over 900 hours that i played this game no once i have used Arcade as a companion and i don't see myself using him for another 900.
I can imagine Lanius getting really annoyed with Arcade to the point where one day he’s just like, “Will you just SHUT.UP!!! You know what? Crucify this guy! Why is he even in our camp?”
I didn't know you could sell him after Caesar is dead anyway, or that there was a unique ending for doing so. All these years, and I'm STILL learning new things about this game!
@@jehehehedias5881 no he's boring af, he look like a random leftist with a phd paid by his dad who never truly work in his life and always talk shit like book are real life when he could'nt survive two hours without mom's money (even if it's not the case lore wise, i only talk about feeling), and i'm leftist, scientist and a worm book too lmao
@@beiberns There's always a point of no return. Pretty sure the moment you make it to Caesar's tumor problems and try to diagnose it, you'rr already a terrorist to the NCR and the only other ending you can get if you opt in killing the Legion to save Arcade is the Yes Man ending
@@juliusrobertoppenheimer9104 fuck you, now I need to write a parody of first four episodes replacing Llamas with Gannon and Caesar" "Uhhhh, Caesar, why is there a dead human in our house?" "Hegelian dialectics told me that he was the antithesis, and I was thesis, so I created the synthesis of making him die" "Caesaaaaaaaar, that kills people!"
I thinks it’s a reference to the historical death of Cato where after his defeat at the hands of Julius Caesar he disemboweled himself in a similar manner.
I don't. There are some that just don't interest me, or who I find uninteresting or insufferable so I don't use them. I play a game to enjoy it, not find out every nuance there is to know about every possible thing that can be done with every possible combination of things, person, or group. (I never did a "Legion playthrough" because I hate the Legion and what they do, as another example) No slam on those who do, by any means, but there are probably a lot of people out there like myself.
I use most of the companions when I'm doing a good karma run. In good karma runs I never use Lily because no meds makes her a dangerous mutant and always taking meds makes Lily a depressing drone. I personally believe Lily doing half doses is the best ending for her.
"Victrix causa deis placuit sed victa catoni" - "the winning cause pleased the gods, but the lost cause pleased Cato". This is a reference to Caesar's civil war, in which Cato was a major opponent of Caesar. Cato would ultimately kill himself by ripping out his own organs, a knife not being available. Before the civil war, Cato was also known to spar verbally with Cato in the senate, the two being leaders of the opposing factions of the time. Arcade's death is a reference to this in the first ending is a reference to this.
based run = int 1, luck 10, rush the strip, won shit ton of money in casino, get arcane, kill the computer boi and the cool jacket fucker, go to caesar fuckhouse, sell the redditard
I try to kill Caesar after giving Arcade to see if you can free him but Arcade would actually defend Caesar if you attack him, even if you kill everyone but him he will keeps attacking you.
@@bookwermofthefandoms Think they're noting the plasma defender on his hip. That's probably just cause the game doesn't bother with details of eqipment.
The thing is that both Caesar and Arcade belonged to the Followers: thats why Caesar mourned him, he almost saw himself reflected in Arcade. His younger self.
I sort of wished their was a Unique good ending for Arcade when sold to Caesar. Like Caesar learned to respect and trust Arcade more. To the point where Arcade was no longer considered a slave but instead as a friend. A bit of a stretch but maybe even giving Caesar some closure in the sense that he am pulls back on this Legion Domnating the wasteland so he can make a utopia plan and sort of goes Back to the Followers
It would be cool if one ending had Caesar becoming a close friend of Arcade, making Arcade not longer a slave but rather staying in the Legion with an important role.
@@trouslinabone I think one of arcades main things are his firmly held beliefs. If anyone was gonna flip flop he’d be the last person, and based off of his ending with the legion it’s clear even with time his opinions didn’t change
Honestly I nearly forgot that Arcade existed. I had more fun running around with the other characters, so after my first playthrough I wandered around with other people instead.
Depending on how much I want the remnants Arcade gets sold in nearly every legion playthrough. He can be charming at times but he's also just so pedantically annoying and naively idealistic.
2:06 This is what Cato the Younger did when Julius Caesar won (most of; there were subsequent battles) the Civil War. Obvious parallel by Arcade/the devs.
I _really really_ disliked Arcade a character, as an NPC, and as follower he's just terrible I would be happy if he was removed from the game and you could just use I don't know terminal entries together the enclave remnants which is what I've done many a playthrough get mods that just remove him entirely and replace his quest with that of just finding random terminal entries
@@shuvari7707 He is the only companion who tells YOU the player which ending you should take,he also patronizes you and acts all holier than thou the entire game.
@@TheStormtrooper00 I have no problem with him having preferences about which faction he wants to win. Also, Boone doesn't fit that criteria either? And yeah, if you do things he doesn't like he's not going to like you lol.
@@shuvari7707 Yeah he is a prick, also why would he want to help the NCR who killed his dad and destroyed the entire base he was born in? Talk about Stockholm syndrome 🤣. Just take Veronica and you'll have a better time for sure.
I'm doing my first legion playthrough playing an evil character and I'm on a predicament about what to do with Arcade, on one hand I want to have him enslaved by the legion, on the other I'd like to progress his quest gathering the remnants and have them aid the legion. I wonder which should I chose, and I wonder if just maybe both are posible, I wonder if you could get his quest, advance it all the way were you can visit the remnants bunker and before talkin to them to decide who you want them to help, you go to Caesar and get to the point were you give him Gannon and then return to the bunker, then just maybe both could be possible, but I don't know if that would work or the moment the legion takes Gannon the remnants' bunker will become inaccessible.
Arcade is super chill about the whole thing. He'll ream you out for blowing up HELIOS One and killing Anderson, but sell him into slavery and he'll just be _vastly_ disappointed in you.
I think that just shows how selfless he is. He sees great personal harm in being a slave to Caesar, but he sees greater public harm in power being directed to the orbital weapon, rather then communities in need.
It is heartbreaking that you can do such terrible things to him.
Not like he can even do much about it.
@@whoareyoutoaccuseme6588 Well he did off himself
He isn't angry, he's just disappointed
That's why I like him, although I prefer Cass and rex vastly, he's definitely one of the more moral characters
I did it, on my full Legion playthrough, doing all what it and could be good for the Legion, pretty sad ending for him, but it was done in the name of science.
In the name of greater good
@@enclavesoldier5842 ..."The Greater Good"
@@The1RedRooster Yes.
Ave, true to Ceasar
Ave, true to Caesar
Imteresring thing too, as mentioned above the Latin phrase Arcade mentions at the start translates to " The victorious cause pleased the gods, but the vanquished cause pleaded Cato." And it was also said that Arcade disemboweled himself with a scalpel and his bare hands. After Cato the Younger, a roman Senator, lost the battle of Thapsus against Caeser in the Roman Civil war, he committed suicide the exact same way. With a knife and his bare hands. The writing of this game astounds me sometimes.
Yeah and Julius Caesar wept over Cato’s death. Cato would’ve been pardoned but wanted to die with the revolution before he’d accept Caesar
I do this every playthrough, even in my slaughter legion playthrough - where his voice lines don't change at all
What happens when you sell Arcade and then kill Caesar?
Lanius will take him as a slave. If you kill Lanius too then the NCR/ Yes Mans Robots will kill him along with a bunch of fleeing legion people
@@mazrimtaim3107And if you help the Legion win while Caesar is dead, Lanius has Arcade crucified because he doesn't understand sarcasm.
Holy crap, I can't believe I hadn't heard of these before!
Arcade killed himself cause he was sick and tired of Caesar’s rambling , and lanius was tired of arcade’s rambling and had him killed.
Now if this is not peak comedy I don’t know what is.
What ENB do you use!? Please tell me! Looks better than Arizona ENB!
damn bro what the fuck
FNV is my favorite game ever. Bethesda suck big time for not giving Obsidian their bonus.
I gave arcade my Y-186 and he dropped it for no reason. He gets sold every time now. Armor ain’t worth the 20 steps lol
Fun fact-Arcade’s end in the first ending is based on Cato the Younger. When Caesar defeated Pompey in the Roman civil war, Cato refused to be pardoned by Caesar and instead disemboweled himself with a sword. Caesar apparently wept for weeks.
it's so fucking funny to me that Arcade chose to go out all poetic like that
Hard to believe that he wept for Cato, I can see why he wouldve for Pompey, but Cato was just a massive douche, who was one of the major reasons why the pompeyans even lost the war. And all that running away to greece and africa, opposing caesar time after time, Im pretty sure he wasnt happy about the suicide because he couldnt spare him and show that he was the better man
Didn't he weep when he was presented the head of Pompey
I don't think he would do so for the incarnation of sweaty balls and fanatical conservatism
@@astrofornaught common Arcade W
best comment and responses 🔥
I like how Caesar actually liked Arcade and mourned him
Caesar probably doesn’t get many chances to exercise his brain by speaking with a very well read individual, while there’s no way of knowing I would assume that those conversations would be some of the most tolerable moments for Arcade as well
Funny how Caesar's ideal society made it impossible for him to speak with any educated people but Arcade regularly
@@vulpes7079 The current Legion is not his ideal society, it is a tool he uses to create his actual ideal society once he conquers the NCR
@@illyrian9976 sorry but I'm not sure that justifies slavery, crucifixions, and all that shit
@@illyrian9976 besides that, the Legion openly shuns all technology that doesn't directly help Caesar, like the Auto Doc in his tent and the Power Fists his Praetorians use
“Victrix causa deis placuit sed victa catoni” - "The victorious cause pleased the gods, but the conquered cause pleased Cato" A quote from Pharsalia, a poem written written by Lucan during the time of the Roman civil war between Caesar and Pompey. One that describes both sides of the conflict as equally wrong, if for different reasons. In said poem Cato the Younger, a stoic man, realizes the Caesar, there depicted as a vicious power hungry monster, has won the war. He knows he will be offered pardon, offered a life under new rule. Cato instead chooses to take his life, by eviscerating himself, to die with dignity and honor.
From the very start of his slavery under Caesar, from the moment he exchanged last words with the courier, Gannon knew he will take his life in the exact same way. It was no spur of moment - he lived with that thought for years.
“After I'm dead I'd rather have people ask why I have no monument than why I have one.”
See, stuff like this is why I'm never going to sell Arcade into slavery. Plus I love him to bits.
thank you for sharing that was very interesting
Holy moly I guess this game's lore is hella lot more deeper than I know rn
I feel so bad for enslaving him now goddammit. I would've just gotten the auto doc parts but I didn't know about them I must've missed the dialog. And my medicine skill was too low to save Caesar
When the Courier says, "The world needs Caesar more than it needs you", Arcade responds with a quote from Lucan's _Pharsalia_ , "the winning cause pleased the gods, but the lost cause pleased Cato"
Could you explain what this means
@@jamesserrano5619 It's a pretty common lament picked up from the poem - basically glorifies Cato going down with the side he believed in ("republicanism") even though he knew it would fail, rather than betraying his principles to side with the caesarian faction and win. I'm pretty sure it gets used on some american civil war monuments in the south, but its basically an ode to last stands.
I just think it’s funny that phrase is somehow the most pleasant thing he says to you after you sell him to ceasar
@@cormacdonnelly365 Republicanism as it should be, instead of the one we have now, where the party has a Caesar-like ruler (ironically with brain problems), and the laws they made to control childbirth.
@@korhol2065 he says it was such defeat in his voice.
I think it's fucking hilarious that arcade got so fed up with having to be ceasers debate partner that he would rather kill himself than be part of one more debate with a hegelian cancer patient
caesar: "well according to hegel..."
arcade: "that's it i'm fuckin doing it"
completely understandable action.
@patrick leduc im pretty sure it's intentional, fallout is satirical after all. The kind of "i read philosophy once, now i know how world should be organized" -types of people.
@patrick leduc That's not Caesar goal. You're also considering that progression will always be better from our current moral perception, when it can and many times have been in a totally different direction from what people use to believe was good. Caesar also explain that he is only using the roman symbolism, not that he wanted to rebuild the Roman empire politically like it was.
If thing were different they might have been friends
I didn't even know you could do this, Pretty sad ending for Arcade, He has worse luck than Benny
Ummmm, favourite slave or hung on a cross? I’ll take slavery thank you.
@@john-paulsilke893
You forget how he cut himself open with a surgical scalpel, taking your own life is pretty tragic
Yeah, Benny was unlucky enough to shoot the main character of all people. You know how easy it would’ve been if he shot someone else? Vegas would’ve been his in a month
@@handleonafridge6828 Benny would never succeed lmao
Yea, arcade definitely has a lot of bad endings. Wether that be being killed, imprisoned, slavery, or suicide
I never understood why you can't pose as Caesar's agent and just having Arcade "accidently" botch his brain surgery.
He’s too morally uptight and frowns upon a lot of stuff but never does anything to change it
Because he believes in “do no harm” arcade is a very moral man
He wouldn’t go against then even for someone he is so opposed to.
There's a lot that could've been, if Bethesda had given Obsidian another year, or even years to refine such an epic title.
@@SneedRemembrancer Well in the video he even says he'll make an exception for Caesar because of the slavery in the legion.
Because then the legion would give him a slow and painful death. Why would Arcade go for this suicide mission?
Damn 18 months they made this game and they still surprise me with the detail they still had time to put in
And I always forget they got Danny Trejo to voice Raul. He quips are just fantastic
This game wasn't built from the ground up. It's literally an expansion of Fallout 3. All they had to do was focus on the details. So this shouldn't be a surprise.
@@cechzc1u they did Improve on the engine tho
Also they had a smaller team than F3
@@cechzc1u still impressive even though it's buggy as hell
They had a complete engine. Bethesda worked for months before the dev cycle started working on modyfing the AI for Obsidian.
Arcade is such a nice guy I could never betray him. It makes me so sad the way he says “goodbye courier”
Same, that line made me change my view on him, he is annoying as fuck with his morality sometimes but I can't hate him
I really like that guy....He is calm and...always cool...
@@EnigmaJenkins Well that's out of pocket to be honest but go you I guess.
i hate him, hes hypocrite prick
Arcade and Caesar in ending 1 mimic the real life Cato and Caesar. Cato, being unskilled in weaponry, died after recovering from a suicide attempt and pulling his own guts out with his hands. Caesar, even in conflict respecting Cato, mourned his death. That’s some great work by someone at obsidian.
"Why don't you make like Odysseus and get loss!"
One of my favorites
get loss!
Oh no... He read a book and is making references literally 99,9999999% people wont get.. And even in pre war world.
Maybe instead of reading useless literature, he should learn how to make stimpacks or at least healing powder.
@@foreignfat6009
Shakespeare and Greek Mythology isn't that uncommon.
@@Nutsaur I am one the wierd minority which actually reads this kind of literature. I read Odyssey around 5 times, but I never met anybody who read that book. And now imagine if I make references to it. Fecking nobody would know what the I am talking about and now imagine in post-apocalypse... Where most books were burnt in atomic fire or for campfire.
I understand some latin, but everybody would hate me if I start saying quotes in LATIN.
It would be incredibly pretentious.
Gannon was with followers for years, he had prior Enclave knownlage and education. But he accomplished nothing. He cant even make anything useful or otherwise.
Meanwhile Mobius can create better robots than anybody pre war (assaultron and military grade sentry bot might be better)
from SPARE PART and he wasn't even expert in robotics, unlike 0.
These two supposedly should have same inteligence.
X
@@foreignfat6009
Snuffles' intelligence is higher than Caesar.
Once I'vee played and bonded with all the companions and learning their story it makes it almost impossible for me to do an evil playthrough and do any harm to them in any way lol
That's one of the beautiful things about this game, you can get so easily emotionally attached to the companions once you discover their personal stories
That's why you turn off your emotions during an evil playthrough, or at least find the humor in your despicable actios.
@@whoareyoutoaccuseme6588 like assassinating Kimball with Archimedes II
That's why to this day I have not killed doc Mitchell or rex or Raul once. I will admit I killed arcade before, but for a justified reason.
He had some sick power armor I couldn't get because I didn't pass a speech check so I just killed him for it 🙂
The only companions i gave a shit abput were raul lily and rex soo, gues i know what im doing in my next legion playthrough
The zoom-out shot of Arcade dead in a ditch at the end is hilarious and I don't know why
Fun fact. The pissed off Enclave intern you crank call in fallout 2 is Arcade's dad.
holy shit really?
I don’t think that’s confirmed
_Enclave here. Why isn't your video feed working?_
@@DrWeaselJenkins its confirmed in my heart 😔
source: i made it the fuck up
Don't you get 3rd unique ending so long as you sell Arcade AND choose any one besides Legion?
I thought the ending also triggers if you go Mr. House or NCR route
You can't sell him and then do house cause Caesars tumors only occur after the kill house quest. I'm unsure of how it works with NCR, but that might work as I don't think you're locked out at that point for the NCR
@@ryankasch5561 The NCR route isn't possible either, because the NCR will declare you a terrorist before you get this far with the legion.
@@koenekekoen491 yes man
@@koenekekoen491 "it's about fucking time"
Love that Caesar literally cried because he lost the only guy he can talk with intellectually. Now he's just going to spend the rest of his life talking to his cult followers. XD
I can imagine Ceasar having to stop every time Arcade disagrees with him to stop some Preatorian from killing Arcade for 'defiance'.
Ceasar: No no, I WANT him to disagree with me. His differing veiw helps identify any problems in my plans to improve.
To think, only if they had more time to develop this game. A greater masterpiece it would have been.
Yeah this game sucks
@@calvin6314 wtf no
@@calvin6314 LMAO
@@calvin6314 lol
This is literally an expansion of Fallout 3. All the hard work was already done. So yeah, they had plenty of time.
I love how even after being sold into slavery by his good friend and now has to serve the man he hates more than anything, Arcade is still sarcastic and passive aggressive towards you.
Best companion.
Arcade killing himself is doubly devastating because he picked one of the most agonizing and complicated ways to go. It must have been about sending a message to his slavers.
Not really. He chose one of the more painful ways to kill himself as a smug "gotcha" to the only other guy on that side of the Colorado who probably understood that reference. It's actually laughably pathetic and petty.
@@FriendlyDarkwraith Was the point lol
As my favorite companion, it's kinda sad knowing he has more than just one bad ending.
Right? I think the only companion that has it worse than Arcade is Lily, because none of her endings are really good. At least with Arcade there are a few "things turned out alright."
It sucks that Raul and Lily aren’t even very developed companions. I mean Rex has more content than them put together. At least I have Veronica (even though half the time I play NV, she gets a sad ending)
Only the post-Enclave Reunion Yes-Man endings are good for him; ironic considering that ending is arguably the worst for everyone else.
Arcade having poor endings is a critique of idealistic thinking in the Post-apocalyptic Dystopia of the Fallout Universe.
@@Jade0603 There should have been an option to convince the Brotherhood to just go away from the Mojave somehow.
@@whitegoose2017 There was a cut option for House's route where you infiltrate the Brotherhood and convince them to stay in lockdown or leave the Mojave. There were even voicelines recorded for House's reaction to it, but ultimately the option was cut because it would have made House's route too compelling and it was out of character for House to change his mind on the BoS
So you're telling me, Arcade is too morally lawful that he wouldn't stoop so low to kill Ceasar during surgery, yet was short sighted enough to kill himself?
He was in the perfect position to slowly influence the mind of Ceasar. For such a smart man, he seems pretty quick to tap out.
Arcade probably knew specifics about the Legions use of torture, and was rightfully scared of killing Caesar
Coulve killed Ceasar and then kimself. But the Hippopotamus Oath or whatever. Lmao
@VoltDenatsu "You dont become a doctor without a strict moral code," ahaahahah
That was kind of Arcade though. He probably could've had a larger role in the Enclave as well, but if an organization didn't align with his principles, he didn't stick around and didn't want to.
You don't influence a mind like Caesars. He knew there would be no point in even trying to change Caesar's mind.
Never seen these endings because in over 900 hours that i played this game no once i have used Arcade as a companion and i don't see myself using him for another 900.
based
Waste
Its worth it for the enclave mission.
Based
imagine liking the enclave
Arcade talks like a redditor, I never understood why people like him
On my next playthrough i'll sell him to caesar.
@@sadih3130 he's just a business guy doing business.
I can't believe there is an ending to this game where you can crucify Arcade Gannon
I can imagine Lanius getting really annoyed with Arcade to the point where one day he’s just like, “Will you just SHUT.UP!!! You know what? Crucify this guy! Why is he even in our camp?”
I didn't know you could sell him after Caesar is dead anyway, or that there was a unique ending for doing so. All these years, and I'm STILL learning new things about this game!
Arcade is such a sweetie. I couldn't do that to him.
Arcade is like if Johnny Test had his sisters intelligence but with no personality
I think Arcade is pretty charismatic. My second favorite companion personality after Veronica.
Idk about Charisma, but he's interesting fella.
Way more than real life Ancoms.
@@jehehehedias5881 no he's boring af, he look like a random leftist with a phd paid by his dad who never truly work in his life and always talk shit like book are real life when he could'nt survive two hours without mom's money (even if it's not the case lore wise, i only talk about feeling), and i'm leftist, scientist and a worm book too lmao
@@elbarone9749 k
@@elbarone9749 "worm book"
What happens if you sell Arcade then save him later on?
I don't think that's a possibility. You'd've been marked a terrorist and have killed House by now so I don't think there's a slide for that.
@@SkeweredGlaive We won't know unless we try! This is why New Vegas is such a great game. So many possibilities!
@@beiberns There's always a point of no return. Pretty sure the moment you make it to Caesar's tumor problems and try to diagnose it, you'rr already a terrorist to the NCR and the only other ending you can get if you opt in killing the Legion to save Arcade is the Yes Man ending
@@SkeweredGlaive But what if you sell him to Caesar and then kill everyone at the camp? Does he just sit there and act like hes still imprisioned?
@@AfterAttackTV I think so
What a waste
Why Dont u fck with Boone? 🥺👉👈
I'm really very boring. He’d get better stories out of a Freeside junkie.
Wow Caesar and Arcade becoming "friends" i feel like those two would be like a old married couple
Ah, yes, they were friends. Such good friends Arcade disembowelled himself
@@vulpes7079 thanks for this comment
I feel like it would be like llamas in hats, “caesaaaar, you can’t use Hegelian dialectics to justify genocide”
@@juliusrobertoppenheimer9104 fuck you, now I need to write a parody of first four episodes replacing Llamas with Gannon and Caesar"
"Uhhhh, Caesar, why is there a dead human in our house?"
"Hegelian dialectics told me that he was the antithesis, and I was thesis, so I created the synthesis of making him die"
"Caesaaaaaaaar, that kills people!"
What kind of sweet old lady rips her own guts out when her husband isn’t looking
Always hated Arcade's smarmy Reddit attitude, i sell him every time
So if you sell Arcade to the legion then attack the Fort kill Caesar etc can you take him back ???
You sold the guy into slavery
He isn’t trusting you for a fucking second
why would you take him back lmao, he's good where he is
(Speech 85) Arcade you really thought I sold you into slavery huh ?!
@@lie5196 need a 10 Charisma, idolized by the followers, and some part of his side quest done before doing any of that
Can we please get your mod list and load order for new vegas? Your game looks awsome
Yoo how are u all not talking about this man taking his own damn guts out with a scalpel and his hands
I thinks it’s a reference to the historical death of Cato where after his defeat at the hands of Julius Caesar he disemboweled himself in a similar manner.
Arcade seems to have a lot of not very great endings, but this one definitely is one of the worse endings
Selling Gannon to slavery is hilarious because it's the character insert of the pretentious director of the game
Im curious what happens if you sell Arcade but then kill Caesar and everyone else in the tent, does he become a follower again?
Probably still the Legate ending. I don't think the game detects when you've killed everyone in the camp, just Caesar.
Surprised to find out no one actually uses all companions
I don't. There are some that just don't interest me, or who I find uninteresting or insufferable so I don't use them. I play a game to enjoy it, not find out every nuance there is to know about every possible thing that can be done with every possible combination of things, person, or group. (I never did a "Legion playthrough" because I hate the Legion and what they do, as another example) No slam on those who do, by any means, but there are probably a lot of people out there like myself.
@@TheDoctor1225 sure but it's fun to roleplzy
I use most of the companions when I'm doing a good karma run. In good karma runs I never use Lily because no meds makes her a dangerous mutant and always taking meds makes Lily a depressing drone. I personally believe Lily doing half doses is the best ending for her.
@TheDoctor1225 fallout 4 and NC have great side stories with their companions sorry u play games to suck at them
bro talks about sucking at games and he plays fallout, lmao, the irony
A fitting end for the games worst companion.
Debatable, I liked him
This game never cases to amaze
-Cool unique ending
-sell your friend to slavery
Wtf man
Lmao
I wish there was an ending where you could sacrifice yourself, saving Arcade from slavery like the ending of Breaking Bad.
This isn't that FO3 bullshit. Martyrdom is overrated.
Bro you can just not sell him at all, that's even better
@@gavaudan2131 Then he either gets killed by the Legion or gets arrested by the NCR.
the courier thinks theyre walter white
It's really interesting to know after so many years you replayed the game over and over, there are still things you're yet to discover.
"Victrix causa deis placuit sed victa catoni" - "the winning cause pleased the gods, but the lost cause pleased Cato". This is a reference to Caesar's civil war, in which Cato was a major opponent of Caesar. Cato would ultimately kill himself by ripping out his own organs, a knife not being available.
Before the civil war, Cato was also known to spar verbally with Cato in the senate, the two being leaders of the opposing factions of the time. Arcade's death is a reference to this in the first ending is a reference to this.
That’s... sad. That’s just bloody sad. Screw the Legion, I’m going NCR. I’ll take taxes over death.
Arcade must suffer
I love Gannon, man. I could never do him like this.
A lot of people with sadistic fantasies in the comments section.
Arcade was so annoying and talkative that Lanius had him crucified. Beautiful.
It's pretty nuts how evil the game will let you be. You can also feed all your human companions to the cannibals at the ultra luxe as well.
Ooh, that's also a good ending for Arcade! Do they get their own ending slides?
@@gratefulguy4130 Probably just gives them the default "that guy died" slide.
how much do you get for him
Not enough
Arcade: Wtf
I'm late af but 10 Legion denarius which is equivalent to around 10,000 caps I think
@@ColonelKebabShop it’s worth about 1000 caps
@@ColonelKebabShop One more Denarius and it'd be worth it..
Interesting Arcade is too much of a coward to finish Caeser off himself
Too much of a coward to take a stab at Caesar, but had enough guts to take his life in one of the most painful drawn out ways.
@@SkyNinja759 exactly he's a doctor he should know where to cut to ensure a painless passing.
He probably takes his role of a doctor seriously. Doctors do not kill. Arcade only kills in self defense
@@zm1786 So I guess suiciding is self defence.
@@SkyNinja759 pretty sure that's how Cato killed himself
My favorite hobby in fallout NV: Selling Arcade to the Caesar...
based run = int 1, luck 10, rush the strip, won shit ton of money in casino, get arcane, kill the computer boi and the cool jacket fucker, go to caesar fuckhouse, sell the redditard
Never played legion. I see legion, I kill.
That’s why I liked the Fort in the game: if I really wanted, I could bring a bunch of guns and Boone and assassinate Caesar and everyone there.
Try playing it most fun playthrought i had out of all factions.
Yep. Can’t tolerate Caesar’s attitude long enough to work with the guy.
That first arcade ending is inspired by the actual death of Cato
3:37 This would be the fate of every insufferable hipster that managed to survive into the post-apocalypse
I try to kill Caesar after giving Arcade to see if you can free him but Arcade would actually defend Caesar if you attack him, even if you kill everyone but him he will keeps attacking you.
That's more upsetting than his horrible deaths at the hands of the legion.
The legion allowing Arcade to keep a weapon on him once enslaved seems like a safety oversight
probably after a year or so they came to trust him with medical instruments in the tent
@@bookwermofthefandoms Think they're noting the plasma defender on his hip. That's probably just cause the game doesn't bother with details of eqipment.
Pretty sure that Archade would enjoy his time in the legion since as we know, plenty in the legion mount their male slaves and each other.
This is the only reasonable thing to do with Arcade.
I wish a well skilled Courier could become Caesar's personal physician.
Especially if you playing a female Courier ^^
Is it possible to get the enclave remnants to side with caesar and sell arcade?
The thing is that both Caesar and Arcade belonged to the Followers: thats why Caesar mourned him, he almost saw himself reflected in Arcade. His younger self.
Why would Arcade decide to brutally disembowel himself instead of something more quick and painless? Lol
I sort of wished their was a Unique good ending for Arcade when sold to Caesar.
Like Caesar learned to respect and trust Arcade more. To the point where Arcade was no longer considered a slave but instead as a friend.
A bit of a stretch but maybe even giving Caesar some closure in the sense that he am pulls back on this Legion Domnating the wasteland so he can make a utopia plan and sort of goes Back to the Followers
Damn dude that would be pretty cool!
They got some pretty big celebs for voices, i keep forgetting Danny Trejo voiced Raul.
These are so fucking sad poor guy that doesn't know his place in life is betrayed by his friend and sold into slavery
It would be cool if one ending had Caesar becoming a close friend of Arcade, making Arcade not longer a slave but rather staying in the Legion with an important role.
Maybe Arcade could have been the nee Caesar.
Arcade would never agree to that
@@marciegalo Over the course of eight years, people's minds can change.
@@trouslinabone I think one of arcades main things are his firmly held beliefs. If anyone was gonna flip flop he’d be the last person, and based off of his ending with the legion it’s clear even with time his opinions didn’t change
Everybody in the Legion except Caesar himself is a slave, technically speaking.
Why did Arcade disembowel himself when he could’ve just sliced his carotid artery?
He is a weeb
Honestly I nearly forgot that Arcade existed. I had more fun running around with the other characters, so after my first playthrough I wandered around with other people instead.
Ave,
True to Caesar.
I never could do this because I felt the Enclave was WAY more useful for the Legion.
You can do both you know. You just have to sell Arcade before telling the enclave to fight for the legion.
I never saw any of these, since Arcade never survived any of my playthroughs.
Caesar really loved arcade.
Depending on how much I want the remnants Arcade gets sold in nearly every legion playthrough. He can be charming at times but he's also just so pedantically annoying and naively idealistic.
1:10- That means “The cause was decided by the victorious gods, but Cato was conquered”
That's what Arcade gets for speaking all smart at me
Legion is just means to destroy the ncr and most likely revive the enclave, since Ceasar was a part of it
"et tumor brute" never clicking on one of your videos again, literally lost me within 11 seconds of ever hearing you
1:10 Quando eu vi isso pela premeira vez, eu pensei que ele iria se matar.
E é, ele fez.
2:06 This is what Cato the Younger did when Julius Caesar won (most of; there were subsequent battles) the Civil War. Obvious parallel by Arcade/the devs.
I _really really_ disliked Arcade a character, as an NPC, and as follower he's just terrible
I would be happy if he was removed from the game and you could just use I don't know terminal entries together the enclave remnants
which is what I've done many a playthrough get mods that just remove him entirely and replace his quest with that of just finding random terminal entries
Why? I don’t understand how anyone can dislike Arcade.
@@shuvari7707 He is the only companion who tells YOU the player which ending you should take,he also patronizes you and acts all holier than thou the entire game.
@@TheStormtrooper00 I have no problem with him having preferences about which faction he wants to win. Also, Boone doesn't fit that criteria either? And yeah, if you do things he doesn't like he's not going to like you lol.
@@shuvari7707 Yeah he is a prick, also why would he want to help the NCR who killed his dad and destroyed the entire base he was born in? Talk about Stockholm syndrome 🤣. Just take Veronica and you'll have a better time for sure.
@@TheStormtrooper00he just prefers the alternative that ISNT involved in slavery
I'm doing my first legion playthrough playing an evil character and I'm on a predicament about what to do with Arcade, on one hand I want to have him enslaved by the legion, on the other I'd like to progress his quest gathering the remnants and have them aid the legion. I wonder which should I chose, and I wonder if just maybe both are posible, I wonder if you could get his quest, advance it all the way were you can visit the remnants bunker and before talkin to them to decide who you want them to help, you go to Caesar and get to the point were you give him Gannon and then return to the bunker, then just maybe both could be possible, but I don't know if that would work or the moment the legion takes Gannon the remnants' bunker will become inaccessible.
The second you do anything positive for the Legion the quest Auld Lang syne fails automatically, if I remember correctly.
The moment you convince the Remnants to help Caesar, Arcade quits being your companion and leaves for good
Good ending for him I’m going to do this next play through
Ah yes, the truly evil bastard endings.
Wow. Imma have to check that out on my next playthrough
I'm so confused, this video is about vault suits?
Edit: Weird TH-cam glitch I guess