I got mine for £3.91. I got a pile of five natural colours to test them. I was really pleased with mine, so much so I ordered another twelve bottles. I can't say I noticed any cracking, but to be fair I printed a pile of goats and used it on them.
@@GrayScalpMiniatures well I thought a herd of goats would be useful.. I had a bit of space on my build plate so my mare in Australia is getting three...
In my experience with other paints, cracking seems related to the primer that’s underneath. It would be interesting if the same test was done with different primers.
There were a couple of different primers used. One was black, with a white ink. The others were just grey, and another was black with white over the top. All seemed to have similar issues but I still need to play around more and do some proper tests with the primers.
Hoping for the full review you will test them over different primers who have different finishes (matt, satin, gloss) to check if the cracking issue comes back.
The red sucks, but besides the red the rest has replaced my contrast paints completely. I haven't had anything crack at all, not sure what caused that, but then again I don't allow them to pool as I use more of a grisaille style undercoating with them.
I used to paint a lot with inks and cracking cam from when the layer underneath wasn't fully dry even though it looked dry. I might be an ink related issue causing the cracking rather than this paint. Though they probably use inks with a medium to formulate these. Anyway I'd say test it with a full day between undercoating and painting or don't use the ink undercoat and see if you get the same problem.
The models I'd used had been undercoated weeks before the video, so it won't be the drying time in my case. However, it might be related to some kind of reactivation. Going to have to do more experimenting.
I got one of these to try it out, and got the same cracking issue where the paint was pooling too much... I will try to add a wash to see if it fixes it :)
Look good to me,id use them alongside "normal" acrylic paints and oils etc,get the benefits of each medium,i sit and paint for hours though and can take rediculous time to paint one figure! I dont play the games though so not in a hurry,i just stick them on a shelf or mini diorama.
I've had the same cracking issue with GSW regular paints, pale flesh & flesh rose. Using their primers as well. I guess it's an issue with some of their paints
I would like to see how they behave in airbrush compared to contrast paints (i've seen peole using only contrast in airbrushing and not the alternative) cause I'm interested in using them basically only with airbrush
No problem, I'll get that added to the full review 😁 Theres a bit in the video that shows that, although it's only the one colour. I can say from my experience using these, Speedpaints, and Contrast Paints through an airbrush, they all work in a very similar way.
I would be interested in what they would be like if you actually dipped them rather than brushed them on. Would they perform like like a solid base coat or get all splotchy and crack? I feel like the intent of the name and paint quality is something similar to Army Painters dip wash, but with more base color applications. Again would love to see this tested...maybe dipping in a shot glass or small jar?
It would have been great to see them used as intended, directly over a light primer such as white, off white or very light grey. The darker grey primer underneath is really going to mute any contrast paints, and the ink you used on top could have caused the paint to not adhere or to not work as it should. So these conclusions are not that valid for the way most people use them really
To some extent, but not all my undercoats used in this were grey. I had some that were just white and the same issue is there. To add, even using them further down the line I've still had the same issues cropping up again.
They’re a mix. Some were white, some gray. Still working on the full review but I’ll be doing a few different types of base costs in that to see what works.
I'm in Canada and was looking at the same problem with it being over $140 shipping. I reached out to a Canadian company that sells GSW products and they informed me that they will be getting these in soon and I'll be looking at $13 shipping for the whole set. I'd recommend that you look around for some hobby shops that carry GSW and ask them.
Size doesn't matter? Never heard that from hung guys or from women ;) Actually I've got some of these GSW inks in post office and I'll collect them today. Can't wait to try them out!
I got mine for £3.91. I got a pile of five natural colours to test them. I was really pleased with mine, so much so I ordered another twelve bottles. I can't say I noticed any cracking, but to be fair I printed a pile of goats and used it on them.
Nice! Glad they’re working out for you and I love how random that last comment is about printing a pile of goats 😂
@@GrayScalpMiniatures well I thought a herd of goats would be useful.. I had a bit of space on my build plate so my mare in Australia is getting three...
In my experience with other paints, cracking seems related to the primer that’s underneath. It would be interesting if the same test was done with different primers.
There were a couple of different primers used. One was black, with a white ink. The others were just grey, and another was black with white over the top. All seemed to have similar issues but I still need to play around more and do some proper tests with the primers.
Hoping for the full review you will test them over different primers who have different finishes (matt, satin, gloss) to check if the cracking issue comes back.
Is not a killer is a serial killer their inks impressed me such vibrant colors
Thanks for the vid, the results look very translucent, especially the second mini.
Yeah definitely. A very mixed bag from these paints.
The red sucks, but besides the red the rest has replaced my contrast paints completely. I haven't had anything crack at all, not sure what caused that, but then again I don't allow them to pool as I use more of a grisaille style undercoating with them.
I used to paint a lot with inks and cracking cam from when the layer underneath wasn't fully dry even though it looked dry. I might be an ink related issue causing the cracking rather than this paint. Though they probably use inks with a medium to formulate these. Anyway I'd say test it with a full day between undercoating and painting or don't use the ink undercoat and see if you get the same problem.
The models I'd used had been undercoated weeks before the video, so it won't be the drying time in my case. However, it might be related to some kind of reactivation. Going to have to do more experimenting.
I use Hycote White plastic primer. Inks work great on that almost like water colour on paper.
Got some on order , I’m planning to use them mostly on terrain at least to start with. Thanks for the review very informative.
Thanks for the review. I got them. For me they haven't cracked either!
Glad to hear they've not cracked for you. So many random factors could have caused it so I'm going to stop guessing now 😂
Thanks for the great review! Have you seen the videos where they show doing one, two and three layers of each color? The intensity is much stronger!
Nope, but that makes a lot of sense. I'll have to have a look.
@@GrayScalpMiniatures I wonder whether the second layer of the same ink would cure the crack or make it worse?!
Wonder if mixing a bit of paint into the ink would help with transparency a bit. If so you cant beat the price
I got one of these to try it out, and got the same cracking issue where the paint was pooling too much... I will try to add a wash to see if it fixes it :)
Look good to me,id use them alongside "normal" acrylic paints and oils etc,get the benefits of each medium,i sit and paint for hours though and can take rediculous time to paint one figure! I dont play the games though so not in a hurry,i just stick them on a shelf or mini diorama.
“People are always telling me, it’s okay, size doesn’t matter.” It’s okay bro.
I've had the same cracking issue with GSW regular paints, pale flesh & flesh rose. Using their primers as well. I guess it's an issue with some of their paints
That’s interesting to know!
Is it safe to say the cracking issue was caused by the white ink you used. Same thing that you ran into with speedpaint 2.0?
I would like to see how they behave in airbrush compared to contrast paints (i've seen peole using only contrast in airbrushing and not the alternative) cause I'm interested in using them basically only with airbrush
No problem, I'll get that added to the full review 😁 Theres a bit in the video that shows that, although it's only the one colour. I can say from my experience using these, Speedpaints, and Contrast Paints through an airbrush, they all work in a very similar way.
I would be interested in what they would be like if you actually dipped them rather than brushed them on. Would they perform like like a solid base coat or get all splotchy and crack? I feel like the intent of the name and paint quality is something similar to Army Painters dip wash, but with more base color applications. Again would love to see this tested...maybe dipping in a shot glass or small jar?
Perfect. I’ll make sure that’s covered in the full review!
Great info! But.. Did they taste nice?
Damn completely forgot the best bit! They taste incredible but the paint hangover was horrendous 😂😂
It would have been great to see them used as intended, directly over a light primer such as white, off white or very light grey. The darker grey primer underneath is really going to mute any contrast paints, and the ink you used on top could have caused the paint to not adhere or to not work as it should. So these conclusions are not that valid for the way most people use them really
To some extent, but not all my undercoats used in this were grey. I had some that were just white and the same issue is there. To add, even using them further down the line I've still had the same issues cropping up again.
@@GrayScalpMiniatures good to know! Thank you!
Thank you for the video ! Very useful!
When you put the dipping inks in the airbrush, how much did you dilute the paint ?
Just like a monster, I didn't thin them at all. They worked really nicely straight out of the bottle.
Thank you for the answer :)!
Use their osl white ink for undercoating and no cracks.
Nice video! Did you coat the models with white or grey? How would they look on a black with grey zenital primed model?
They’re a mix. Some were white, some gray. Still working on the full review but I’ll be doing a few different types of base costs in that to see what works.
How do you think it would work for a glaze?
Differentiation is a word.
Pretty odd name considering you brush them on rather than dip
Yep, I've tried two (azure and purple) and they crack.
Awesome product...
I would love to try these but shipping for me is so expensive. I am hoping at some time in the fututre amazon america will get them.
Fingers crossed they’ll be easier to get there soon!
Shipping, even here in France, is a bit on the high, 15€ for my last order…
@@buchsg around 75 here in America.
I'm in Canada and was looking at the same problem with it being over $140 shipping. I reached out to a Canadian company that sells GSW products and they informed me that they will be getting these in soon and I'll be looking at $13 shipping for the whole set. I'd recommend that you look around for some hobby shops that carry GSW and ask them.
@@Thanos88888 There are no hobby shops for 50 miles in any direction where i live so i rely on mail order companies since i do not drive.
I’m not hyped… the transparence remind me scale75 instant colors, not bad but not use them like contrast or speedpaint, they need layering
Nice vid man, thx.
Size doesn't matter?
Never heard that from hung guys or from women ;)
Actually I've got some of these GSW inks in post office and I'll collect them today. Can't wait to try them out!
Size does not matter wish my ex girlfriend understood that🤣