Watch THIS before you buy any more paint | Contrast v Speed Paint v Xpress v Quick Dip
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- Watch THIS before you buy any more paint | Contrast v Speed Paint v Xpress v Quick Dip. The Ultimate Games Workshop, Greenstuff World, Vallejo, Army Painter Comparison. All of the are great for painting your Warhammer minitures using slapchop.. whether you're a beginner or a painting pro!
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What are your favourites and what do you think of speed painting techniques and colours?
I'm interested in Speed Paint 2.0. Until then, I'll stick with Contrast.
are you not missing scale75 s instant colors? I heard they are more like an ink and very useable
I think I speed paint weird. I never just use the paint straight out of the bottle, I always mix to get the right hue and tint, and various mediums and varnishes for consistency and transparency. I also work off a really vibrant colored zenithal, like deep greens, blues, reds, or magentas. With that in mind, my results have been very different from these pieces.
Personally I'm impressed by Vallejo Xpress. They look great or at par with citadel and they cost a lot less (right?).
@@jothewerewolf it would be cool to see your work. Do you have a instagram account?
It’s a shame we couldn’t get the Speedpaint 2.0 in time for this great review! We’d love to send you a set once we have them boxed up. We think you’ll enjoy the broad range of 90 colours, the consistency, flow, and coverage!
And next time, share the wine 🍷
That sounds good to me, I'd love to give them a try. I was pleasantly surprised with some of the colours here! 😀
More wine for the next one!
Is it still reversible? Thats a big minus for me at the first edition. The colors are nice looking and good to apply, but if u wanna give it a last highlight, as an example, they dont stay dry and mix with the other color.
On another note what will it take for AP to make primer spray nozzles and flow as good as GW makes them? I'd love for that to happen because the current ones are a deal breaker for me.
lol I think army painter auto win the other 3 for showing they care about the reviews
This calls for a part 2. With more wine on the house!
Let the wine flow!
Painting with the wine.
More wine incoming!
@@BroadswordWargaming Awesome!
Just showing how the colors actually look like on a mini is extremely useful, it doesn't matter which brand they come from. Please do more videos like this !
I' was amazed by the fact that the paints where all organized and not inside a bag but then I realized that Ollie did it. thank you Ollie for bringing some organization to Ciara's life
All in nice neat little rows.. definitely NOT Ciaras doing.
Appreciate this! Looking forward to the full review of them each. For me personally, being a majority Vallejo painter, ill get a set of Xpress. When Speed paint 2.0 comes out Ill get a set of those just to have a different color/look option. And Ill have a box of a bunch of test models or bases so I'll remember how each look.
Been using contrast paints for a while now and definitely loving the newer range. Just got some speed paints for Christmas though and honestly I prefer almost all of them. I have been very impressed by the speed paints and their ability to not pool on flat surface. Their skin tone also surprised me the most as I've found it to be the best for a quick white skin tone that doesn't look patchy
Great to see a video portraying all of them. I must say I am very impressed with the Army Painter Speed paints !
this is a great video, thank you! as someone who is just getting into the painting hobby, and starting to collect their paint inventory, this gives me a great look at which ones will give me the result i'm expecting from these style of paints. i assumed i would end up with a mix of different brands, and it this gives me a clear idea of which paints i want from who.
This is a great overview! Thanks so much. I love that different specific paints win out from different companies, rather than one brand having the best overall. That Zealot Yellow Army SpeedPaint is going in my toolbox for painting "Yellow" Yu Jing armor from Infinity by Corvus Belli.
I've started seeing it as a paint-by-paint basis for my picking method, versus a particular brand loyalty. Especially with these contrast lines. I love most of them tbh. Great video!
Totally agree. I like GW because they're easily available, and they're consistent, but I'm always happy to try other things out. Whatever suits the job I'm doing right!?
This is a great help. Everyone has their own preference. This shows that you need to watch this type of content and pick your preference for each colour.
Every other video I saw of dipping inks were getting similarly bad results but proclaiming "wow they're so good, citadel bad!" at the end lol. This felt much more natural and real. I think Army Painter held up really well given they do sets and are a little cheaper. Once they bring out their Speed Paints 2.0 with the fixed reactivation I think I'll grab a boxset.
I feel a bit scammed by Army painter they release a product that's not ready and then they go like we listened to you and fixed the product! All you have to do is buy it a again.
@@ml6158 I can understand that, yeah. Always make sure to wait for reviews first, that's how I approach it.
Where I live, SpeedPaints are about half the price of Contrast, so there's no contest IMO. The 2.0 range of SpeedPaints seems to be right around the corner, and it's a massive expansion of the range in addition to (according to AP) fixing the reactivation issue while still enabling easy wet blending due to a slow drying time. In combination with Xpress, I really don't see why I'd ever buy Contrast. Less paint in a worse container for more money, and the quality is not even superior.
Ive got the mega set of AP speed paints and tbh Ive never seen this reaction thingy. Mind you I use them as(I think ) they were intended ... base. Shadow hilight in 1 coat
I dont glaze or such.
@@MrBizteck So do I, mainly. The reactivation is simply that the paint can become soft/semi-liquid if you wet it even after hours of curing. It happens more easily the more water you put on. So a wash will have more effect than acrylic paint etc. The issue was that people are used to paints curing completely once dry, and assuming the same goes for SpeedPaints. I personally think it is no issue, and that people should have looked into the properties of the paint more before use. But in the end we might get a better product for it, and I'm excited to see the new version once they release the 2.0 formula along with the expanded range.
Hey, just a quick thank you! You sold me on Vallejo's Xpress paints. I've been debating it for some time now and after watching your comparisons I bought them and fell in love with them. I'll still use Citadel for specific colors but looks like Vallejo's Xpress will be my go to now. Thanks!
This is what I've been looking for for a couple of days, thank you so much!
Please do another video with more colors. This will become a must-have reference for painters
Great video guys, pretty much my own conclusion from my experiences too. Was great to see some of the colours I havent used from these brands on miniatures. That vallejo ork skin tone 😍 . Keep the great videos coming you two
Thank you for this video, it was really interesting to watch! I also found it difficult to decide which color I preferred over the others but it was nice to be able to see them all lined up next to one another. I’m new to your channel and think I will subscribe. Cheers!
Please make this a series and do more! ⚡
I'm not a brand loyal painter, I pick what works best for me from all over the place. ☺
i was thinking about which paints i should buy and then this angel shows up and makes a video just in time, nice!
Watching this I laughed a lot more than usual when watching videos about paint. And it was useful too. Another great upload, folks! 👍👍
This is very helpful, despite not having definitive "answers" per se. I have mostly citadel contrast and that seems to be the overall most consistent brand, but unfortunately, there's no real winner, you just have to decide for yourself which color and level of contrast you really want/need. Darn, a difficult choice that no one can really decide for you ultimately, but having a video like this that demonstrates the results is still extremely helpful. Great job thanks!
Thanks for the video, I'm often looking for other paint/ink options for my painting arsenal. While I must admit I'm more traditional with my miniature paintings, I do see the advantages of speed painting. Looking forward to the next video. God bless 🙏
Fun video and comparison. I guess the main take away is how those apply since the outcome is so very varied depending on pigment and the range as a whole (for example, GW does a purple more similar to the express colour one). I really like the approach though, the results are perfect to get a good feeling for how the paints look dry.
A perfect video would be to see the whole range of paints applied this way. But that is a shit ton of work
I think we need a second part with like Orange ,white and other colors that was left out in this one. I'm very impressed with the Vallejo colors but then again it's Vallejo and their colors have never let me down yet.
I am terribly fond of the Contrast line, but I definitely wanna try some Xpress and Speedpaints! GSW's Black Shadow dip gives a nice, even sooty texture when applied lightly, and with layers it's really good for darkening whatever colour is underneath. I did this on a brick red coat, putting more layers on the shadowed parts, and the result was REALLY lovely! Made it look both lightly weathered, shaded, and a very muted red/brown, like rich leather.
Thank you for the video, I think this kind of comparison can be very useful. I am using Army Painter's Speed paints and I have to say I like them. Eager to try the other ones when I can afford more paints.
This video is amazing, more like this please!!! Personal faves from my collection are Magic Blue from the Speed Paints, Flesh Tearers Red from Citadel and Glorious Magenta from GSW.
Yeah, magic blue is great, but also you can just scratch it off with your nail....also its the most terrible in re-activation...
I would enjoy seeing you do another video like this. Comparing more of the colors between the lines. Ciara's reactions are fun to watch/listen too and being able to see different paints tackle different colors. Separate reviews are fine, but side by side comparisons like this help you see things that you wouldn't notice otherwise.
the from-the-bottle wine sip is what got me to subscribe! Love the painting tips!
I'm just getting back into the hobby. Yall did a great job, and this is supper helpful!
Glad it was helpful!
This is a GREAT video!! Thanks a lot! I was about to start using Speed paints for the first time in a very important set of miniatures for me, so I had some doubts. You tested three important colors for my project and gave me the confidence I needed. My results are great. You are also funny😊
I'm totally on board with Speedpaints. I'm a bit miffed that reformulated Speedpaints are just around the corner after I JUST bought the Mega Set for Christmas, but I'm still super-happy with them. I saw a video about the reactivation issue and how to combat it, and it's just "use the Speedpaint Medium to thin out standard acrylic paints", which has worked wonders for me so far!
That express plasma red is wildly vibrant that might be my new favourite red
Thanks for this video it did help a lot I'm new to figure painting and choosing paint is a minefield with lots of potentially expensive mistakes ahead
Army painter speedpaint looks sooo amazing. Ive heard so much bad about their paints but they look so great. I am sooo excited that I get to use them tomorrow!
Helpful video ❤ just got back into painting miniatures so this was great. Getting some 30k era Ultramarines legion space marines painted.
I like the bottle of wine at the start of the vid on the left. It also became an essential part of the hobby for me. Cheers!
Excellent Informative Review! Your objective observations were tempered with fun, reasoned opinions. Today, I've found a lot of colors I want to try. I Subscribed.
That's amazing! I'm so glad you found it useful. 😀
Awesome vid. The goopiness of Army Painter Speedpaint is what I think allows it to dry so smooth, iirc they said that they formulated it to have a longer drying time so the paint can sorta flow and smooth out along the model rather than dry patchy.
That was a really great comparison video! Thanks, Ciara (and Ollie)!
Nice work. I bought all the Dips and never painted full things. Ive played with them in small patches and I like alot of the effects. Ork Flesh dip is always a fun one.
This was a great comparison video thanks you 2!
What a great video, super helpful, I bookmarked it for later usage
I have been using more Contrast paints since they came out as a starting base coat and highlighting/shading with regular Vallejo paints for layering. I was not too impressed by the Speedpaints except for a few exceptions, but Vallejo is stepping up into this territory and I wanted to see their color range. I love the comparison, would love to see more of the other paints of the range and see what they can do. Looks like I will be picking some from each.
For the yellows. That zealot yellow on a plate metal base. I did it accidentally once and it makes such an incredible gold. the orange tint to it shades and highlights to gold incredibly.
Yep, that’s how I do my golds! It’s incredible!
Yep and also if you want an older more brassy gold use Sand Golem
@@QuimFreecss I also use leather and thinned reds a lot for different bronzed effects.
Thank you so much dor this video. I made a list of what I want and you made me realise that sticking to just one company isn’t the best strategy. Getting them all would be nice but a bit of a waste for now… Maybe one day!
Such a good video, really helped me to choose my speed paints. Thank you!
Loved the effort you put into this video. For a novice like myself, this video helped me in what I want to buy.
Glad it was helpful!
Saving this vid for future reference. Thanks guys ❤️
Good video. Nice to see the various brands put side by side, lets folk decide for themselves which they prefer.
Thanks man! Yeah, I think that's it.it so subjective really..Everyone has their own liked and dislikes.
Thank you for this taste test of delicious contrast paints. I've got good results with Citadel Contrast, with my fave so far being Skeleton Horde for a paint useful for many applications and I'm quite happy with the Papyrus Dipping Ink for a tone somewhere between yellow and bone, which I like for my Ulthwé Eldar army. I haven't tried the other two ranges yet but they do look promising.
Absolutely fantastic video. I’m just getting into painting miniatures and this video will be so helpful!
Glad it was helpful!
Nice comparison. It would be interesting to see what you make of the blacks, whites and greys.
I got got the Xpress set last week and found the Black Lotus a bit thin. Ended up going over it with Army Painter's Grim Black.
This video was amazing! Please do as much colors comparisons as you can.
If you can I'm game for any line, normal colors, more contrast, washes etc...
Looks like I need to get Vallejo paint, I really like my models being bright and vibrant. Contrast is all in the way you apply your paintjob. It might take longer, but the result is more personal, and dramatic.
So much red ! 😃
Edit: This is going to be useful to me. Saved to watch later and subscribed. Thank you, very informative.
Thanks for sharing. As you mentioned at the end, Citadel do have the biggest range and, as such, have a lot of alternative greens, blues, reds, yellows and browns that are closer to the "competitor" hues that were seen in the video e.g. Fleshtearers Red is much closer to Blood Red, etc.. That said, I confess, I am biased. Citadel have been my go-to paint brand for 30+ years and their contrast range are by far my favourites to date - I have every single pot, lovingly displayed in colour order with example painted bases attached to the shelf under each one for quick and simple referencing! 😉)
re: pots comment - in the main, I like their pots but, after having more than one spillage (!!!), I now always use a "pot holder" to avoid accidently covering my paint station in a very quick and uncontrollable spill! 😆
I really like the hardened leather speed paint. I've only ever used GW and Vallejo paints before but I want to try some of the Speed Paints now
Yeah, it's a lovely paint! 😍
look out SPEED PAINTS... take off when you want to get second layer or you puting varnish on.
I love Marmite though. Also I'm so stoked with the AP Speed Paints. Loved them from the start. Continue to love them.
A GW Contrast Yellow with more contrast and quite the same great tone is Ironjawz Yellow. I use it mostly on my Escher Armor and it just looks brilliant.
A lot of work. Thanks for taking the time to do this exercise!
You're welcome!
Strangely helpful. I really like the red wine and the GSW green, Vallejo brown and GW yellow - which is not very contrasty but nice.
I''ll get them all! Except that Dipping Ink flesh. Thanks for the review and enjoy your wine!
I think the speedpaint Zealot yellow is a great base to then layer on some solid yellow on panels and raised surfaces. With the orange being a solid recess shade.
It also seems more comparable to Iyanden Yellow instead of any of the 3 new ones. I'd like to have a video (or series) comparing the brands in their totality instead of a single pot of each for each color, especially as Citadel has so many for each color.
"get them all" - maybe it's not the best advice but it's kinda true... I've tried both Citadel, AP and Vallejo and you kinda need to try them out to find your personal favourites. I love some of the AP ones and others not so much. I love some of the Vallejo ones and others not so much. And so on. I do love the consistency of the Vallejo Express Colors but in the end it's really about personal preferences.
...and now I've gone and bought a load more paints.
Thanks.. I think?
Great review!
Haha, sorry about that! It was all necessary of course!
"the more I use dropper bottles... The more I hate the he pots" 😂 i remember like a month ago when you posted that you were putting your paints back in gw pots on Instagram 😂
So fickle! haha Maybe I hate all the options lol
I found this really useful. I have only used a limited range of citadel contrast so far and have become a little disappointed in the inconsistency of some of them. It appears every range has its own inconsistencies and I will be shopping around on a colour by colour basis from now on. Loved that Xpress purple. What a colour! Incidentally, I loved all the browns, including the greenstuff.
Shame you had to do the rest of the testing off-cam, this review was actually terrific, would LOVE to see more, especially when the AP gen2 stuff comes out!
Great review and nice to see the comparison. Cheers.
Great comparisons, thanks!
I'm a big fan of Army Painter myself. Solid colors and not expensive. Plus, they come in dropper bottles. :)
Love from California. Your videos always show up just before 5am
Great review. I liked the way those Vallejo colors looked the best.
I agree!
Great video! I will be staying away from the Green Stuff Dipping paints. Your comparisons were very helpful. Thanks!
Speed Paint Blood Red is what im using for my Votann over a Zenithal. Its a really nice red but Im still experimenting as I find I'm having to do a lot of work over the top to push the contrast further. In that regards the reactivation isnt bad because it helps blend a little better.
I really like the comparing of the different lines, overall great video. Would say though that "blood angels red" is the more comparable version (gw) to army painter's blood red.
I think I’m not sure as you are , but I love the way your presentation went ! I definitely will try some of those brands.
Very interesting video, I'll certainly consider picking up some of the speed paint colours instead of my go-to citadels
I really like working with the Vallejo Xpress paints and they've expanded their range with a lot more colours now. The reason I prefer them is they have a longer drying time which for me, makes them much easier to work with. I've never quite got on with Contrast as it tends to dry before I can correct everything, leaving visible brushstrokes. That'll come down to my style of painting and the Vallejo range just compliments my slow style.
What a great video! So glad I came across this channel
Glad you enjoy it!
watching this after painting my first figure with Speedpaint and feeling like..... they didn't live up to my expectations at all. I did notice some are 2.0 and other aren't....
I also noticed in your video that the citadel never wowed you, but never disappointed, where for each of there others there were highs and lows.
still... I found in this comparison the Vallejo xpress paints really looked good each time too, even if I didn't always like the shade.
thanks, this was helpful
Yeah, all of these were speed Painting 1.0. That is exactly how we felt about citadel. They're consistent, and you always got what you expected, which isnt a bad thing.
@@BroadswordWargaming Have you tried out Speedpaint 2.0?
I noticed that about half mine are orignal, and about half are 2.0. I've seen reports that the orignals will re-activated and blend with previous layers.
That hardened leather speed paint did look pretty good.
I have a lot of Citadel's Contrast paints and I generally like them quite a lot. I would point out though that a lot of the paler Contrast paints have a tendency to separate a lot, and can require an incredibly amount of mixing before use. I've put an agitator into my pot of Apothecary White and it still takes a long time with a vortex mixer to get it ready to use, so that's something to bear in mind when shopping!
I have the same issue.
I happen to use Citadel over a long time and they never got the separation under control. So i looked for other options and vallejo is a solid and cheaper alterative for me.
I just tested a load of the next Xpress paints and was very impressed especially when you factor in the cost . They areover£1 cheaper. But it generally hard to compare brands as you showed
I think it's a really subjective thing, and each paint is really different. There is no "best" paint, just nice paints. :)
Wow absolutely gorgeous. And the minis are nice too ;)
Speedpaint camo green might be more to your liking if you liked the Greenstuff. In any event, I think it is a more useful green than orc flesh. Edit: Oops, it wasn't the color I was thinking, it's a darker desaturated green, not similar to the Greenstuff green shown here. Still preferable to the orc flesh, IMO.
Awesome I’m gonna try some Vallejo 🙌🏻
Great video. Genuine. Funny. Natural. Fantastic. Well done
I absolutely love Blood Red from Army Painter. The only issue is its probably the worst offender for reactivation. However, as a one coat solution for Farsight Enclaves, its incredible!
Its pretty much the same as blood angels red from GW, but that doesn't reactivate. Sadly I won't be touching the army painter series.
Great video and difficult to balance out your views against these 4 brands. I would agree each brand had a good colour and bad colour, but I would say the most consistent was Citadel which was nice to see for a change as people usually put Vallejo ahead. So nicely balanced for each brand and an honest video that lets us decide which is best. Thanks Both
Citadel has always been consistent with their contrast paints. I know when I buy a new color that it work pretty well and then I can add highlights later. that being said it seems the xpress and speed paints are doing something different that can work well with citadel paints depending on the project.
I really needed the part related about the deep ink GSW
Glad to have found this channel, finally someone that talks and reviews like an actual human being and not another perfect robot-human painter that's also programmed to talk about paint professionally and all have the same opinion
Ah thanks so much, glad you like it. Honestly, we like to give genuine opinions (as unbiased as possible) about things. :)
Army painter is expanding the Speed Paint line and also will be adding speed paint metallic paint. There's a few shades in-between some of the Speed Paints I'd like. I do like the Hardened Leather for leather bits and Dark Wood for trees/bows - and brown hair.
Wow, those Speed Paints from AP are... quite amazing to be honest.
Thank you , it did help, perhaps more than a little bit Ciara 🙂. I agree with your choice on the Ork skin shade, I did like that Vibrant Green !. Great video,... i see now how you get such rosy wine coloured lips.... 😀
"In summary I have no idea." Best answer for contrast paints demo. Appreciate the show case. "Just get them all." The struggle is real!
recently started using the Army painter line of speed paints and they seem to work very well for me
Nice! I've never been an AP fan, but some of these are lovely. Always good to have a few paints in the arsenal!