I’ve now owned the X-H2S. A7IV, and R6ii. If I had to pick one based on images SOOC or just slight edits it would be the Fuji. I LOVE the build quality of the Canon but it’s so heavy compared to the Fuji setup. The R6ii AF is shockingly good. The high ISO noise levels of the R6ii are amazing. .. We have a trip to Boston coming up & I KNEW I was taking the R6ii .. but I picked up a used X-T4 (and X-Pro2 on the way) ..and I think Fuji kit will be coming to Boston. This video nails my experience in that I get sharp & well balanced images from the Canon.. but I think I’m willing to give up razor sharp for the colors & tones of the Fuji.
@ The X-H2S is the ONLY Fuji I would say has AF that will be very good for sports. I am sure there are people who will chime in and say they shoot Formula 1 with an X-E2. Bless them.. I can’t. Note the X-H2S and X-H2 are NOT the same in regards to AF.. the X-H2S is MUCH better.
Capture One for Fuji Raw was an absolute game changer for me. Try it out if you haven’t. I couldn’t get myself to use it for the longest time but the difference is considerable.
I have used C1 extensively over the last 5 years and honestly even with the reduction in sharpness while editing I still prefer Lightroom as a platform for managing a catalogue and colour correcting. C1 handles the de-Bayering of the sensor so much better than Lightroom but it’s about more than just that one element for me.
@@bytomw Cant argue with that. I still def use Lightroom like 80% of the time. Yet, there are specific scenarios where I just know C1 is going to be miles better. (ie headshots and landscapes)
@@bytomw Totally agree. That is why I use both. Lightroom for cataloguing and edits where I don't need the full quality. C1 for editing for maximal quality (especially landscapes with a lot of green color).
That B cam with the 56 on it!!!! Talk about shallow depth of field 👌👌 I sold all of my Sony gear to move to the Fuji system. I couldn’t be happier. There was nothing wrong with Sony, but there was also nothing special either. The Fuji files are something special. Also, to your point around depth of field FF bs APSC, well, outside of gear reviews, it’s so rare to sit there and compare the two. 99% of folks would see images in isolation, and be happy! Thanks for a great video.
It seams absolutely lovely. Honestly I haven’t had a chance to use it for stills yet (it was my last addition and the 85mm focal length is the least used in my kit) but I’m looking forward to giving it a solid test. I’m also looking at the Mitakon 35mm 0.95 and speed boosters as alternatives to get my “fast 50mm” look.
Very precise and insightful video Tom! I’m a fellow Fujifilm X shooter since the XT2 and am loving the system. I’m dreaming of one day adding the GFX to my workflow, if and when my work justifies it. Agree with you, Canon’s pricing is just ridiculous. That RF 50mm F1.2 costs more then both the GF80mm F1.7 and GF110mm F2, and both these GF lenses are medium format lenses and both have arguably better image quality than the Canon.
@@bytomw absolutely. In fact, with today’s UK price, the Fujifilm GFX50S II + GF80mm F1.7 is a whopping £1755 cheaper than the Canon RF + RF50mm F1.2! And if we were to kind of compare apples to apples, the GFX100S + GF110mm F2 combo is still £240 cheaper than a Canon R5 + RF85mm F1.2. This is crazy! I think if anyone is a portrait photographer and fast autofocus isn’t a priority, then both the GFX option is a much better option than Canon.
Wow, just wow. I was already considering getting the X-H2S as my main camera for wedding and portrait photography... I think this video just helped push me over the edge. When you showed the small difference in clarity between the Fuji and the Canon, with the added perspective of the price difference...well...I'll leave that to each person's opinion whether it's worth it to them or not, but I'd argue, not really. The difference could only be noticed because the photos were compared *side by side*...for client work, given the better looking colors of the Fuji (what really sets the tone and feel of a photo anyways), I think it's not worth the added expense. I'd love to see some stills with the 56mm 1.2f and check out how creamy the bokeh is, but given what I saw with your footage of it in this video, I'd say it will slay just nicely. Again, thanks for helping me decide. Sub'd.
Thanks Haris, honestly I think the lenses have more to do with the quality than anything else. The Fuji lens is amazing but the RF lenses are engineered to perform on another level. Overall I’d take the Fuji any day 👍🏻
Yes. I have the 18 f1.4, 33 f1.4, 56 f1.2 WR and 90 f2. They are all very sharp, but the 90 is so freakishly sharp, it looks like medium format. The new 56 f1.2 is a very close 2nd, but no complaints about any of them and they are a fraction of the cost and size of the Sony GM lenses I used to use. The weight of the system, the ergonomics, the color and the size and quality of the lenses have made it much easier for me to shoot long days at weddings and I agree with you that I have to fuss less with the color.
@@bytomw The 90 f2 is the only one with quad linear motors, so the AF is insanely fast and silent, especially on the XT5. The 90f2 is their sharpest and fastest focusing lens, but I only need it because I've photographed weddings for 23 years. It's not a very handy focal length (135 equivalent) otherwise...
Honestly I love fujifilm, I really wish they hadn't bricked all their newest cameras, I'm tempted to grab more of the older generation though because I genuinely love fuji's colours.
If your shooting stills only I’m sure it would be awesome (purely because it’s more affordable). I’m not sure how much more real detail you’d get from these lenses on a higher resolution sensor but I’m interested to take a look for myself! I’m considering picking one up for testing but honestly for my needs the XH2s is the perfect balance of stills and video performance.
Both shots had the cameras confirm focus on the index finger 👍🏻 Either you’re seeing the difference in the way the lenses render focus in front of the focal point or it’s a focus accuracy issue with the R6 RF 1.8 combo. But I absolutely see what you see.
Excellent vid, thanks! Have been toying with the idea of a new R5 (currently 5D4) but recently purchased a GFX50r and loving the fuji colours and community. This got me thinking about going all in on Fuji for my general work cameras. I've been looking at the Fuji XH2/s reviews and like what I'm seeing, ok I'm reducing the size of the sensor slightly but very rarely are my images printed that large. I don't do or offer any video at the moment but really want to get into making short films and need to learn so maybe the XH2s is better option than the XH2 for me ...
Long story short unless you are shooting your primes at an aperture wider than F2 all the time on full frame the Fuji can match the overall aesthetics of full frame. If you want or need shallower depth of field I’d go for the 80mm 1.7 on your GFX (or awesome manual lenses like the Voigtlander 58mm 1.4). Aside from the full frame at 1.4 look Fuji basically nails everything else, the XH2s has excellent autofocus, dynamic range and the noise looks pleasing.
@@bytomw Thanks Tom, yep that 80mm 1.7 is ridiculous and I like the sound of that Voigtlander. I sometimes shoot on my Canon at 1.4 (Sigma 50 Art) but only occasionally (mainly in low light situations out of necessity) hopefully Fuji will catch up with some lovely wide open lenses soon...
Thanks for the great video. that’s pretty much the same results i was getting with my R6 and XH2S although I couldn’t afford the canon 50f1.2😢 instead i did have sigma 50 f1.4 art and it was still a softer background then the Fuji. However in everything else and especially when using Capture one, I preferred the skin tones and color tones on the Fuji. So I ended up selling my Canon System
Honestly I don't blame you. The Canon L-Lenses are insane prices, especially in the UK. That said the final lenses were so impressive. I really don't regret the move to fuji for a moment though!
ARJ on the tube!!! So good to see his beautiful face!! Anyway, more to the point, this video was super insightful... I watched it a few weeks ago and I'm now coming back to say thank you!! I'm in the Sony Wedding Photographer brigade and although technically amazing, I feel the Sony's are too clinical, almost soulless, and I feel stale and predictable when using it. I've had an off-and-on love affair with Fuji for years and always feel more creative and happier when using them. The depth of field difference and raw file quality/sharpness were what held me back from using them professionally. I'm coming to the conclusion that wide open isn't always the best, especially at weddings and that is ok. Then, after picking up an X-T5 to try, the quality of the Raws at 40MP now matches my Sony files, has better colour and are much easier to manipulate and get the look you want. But I wouldn't have even looked again if your video wasn't so concise and honest!! Thanks Tom!! As a side note, if you want the RAF's to have clarity and sharpness in LR, DXO Pure Raw is a game-changer!
I'm really glad you enjoyed the video Martin. I was in the same boat as you with the Sony camera situation and having it feel like things where a little too clinical! I haven't tried that new 40MP sensor out yet mainly because of just how happy I have been with the XH2s but I'm gonna see if I can get my hands on an XT5 for a while. On the DXO front I have tired them on my fuji files and felt that they affected the colour of the files more than I would like. They add insane amounts of detail though and absolutely give you a sharper more modern look with little effort! Thanks again for commenting and I hope you'll stick around!
Did you do a pixel mapping in the camera menu before sending the X-H2S back? Often cameras come with pixels that appear stuck from the factory, but it’s a result of cosmic radiation during long shipping periods. The calibration is thrown out as a result, hence why there’s a pixel mapping function in the menu. Fuji, Sony and Nikon have separate menu options for it whereas Canon cameras do it when a manual sensor cleaning is performed in the menu.
Hey Womz, My first edition had a really pronounced issue that wasn't fixed by the Pixel Mapping, but my new pair of XH2s where both fine and pixel mapping was all that was needed. This is good advice for anyone else experiencing issues like this though!
For a video about comparing two very different camera bodies, it is nice that you emphasise the difference in colour rendition you get. On the other hand, the difference in background separation is mainly about the lens used (33mm f1.4 vs 50mm f1.2), to know if you can be satisfied with the F1.4 APS-C lens, you could just stop the 50mm down to F2.1 to get identical results to what you would get if you shot it on the Fuji system before you go get the body and lens. Interesting is that the Canon 50mm F1.8 is significantly lighter than the Fuji and still produces more background separation (although at the cost of far lower build quality)
I included that comparison later in the video. I even addressed the difference in depth, shooting the 50mm 1.8 and 50mm 1.2 at F2.2 and the 33mm 1.4 wide open to give an equivalent Depth of field.
Great video!! I love the detailed analysis; this must have taken quite a bit of work to put together. I'm a Nikon to Fuji convert (well mostly, since I'm still sitting on the fence to some degree). You might want to consider dropping music in the background. This was a bit like having a gnat buzzing in my ear while I was trying to listen to something that's really fascinating to me. Otherwise, I'm super happy that I've subscribed.
Loved your review of the Fuji and the Canon. How may I ask how are you color grading your Fuji Log footage it looks great. I also have the Fuji xh-2s and the XH-2 along with the Fuji GFX 100s. And I'm a Nikon shooter as well Z9. There is nothing better then Fuji colors. As far as depth of field you left out the Fuji 50 1.0 it's a fabulous lens. What sort of content will you be adding in the future?
My next video is going to be about colour grading! I have a bunch of comparisons on different methods of log conversion! The footage is filmed, I'm just working on the to-camera parts over the next few days.
Excellent analysis. Those of us who aren’t high end professionals make cost benefit decisions, and half the price for almost as good is an easy call. I also think you proved that so much of image quality is in the lens and not the size of the sensor. I imagine the current 40 MB sensor from Fuji would make the differences even less.
Honestly I’d take the lower resolution sensor. I made another video about the issues with focus I had but I’m back on another 24mp-ish sensor Canon R6ii. It’s excellent for so many applications.
Just bought the xh2 on a plan to start my photography business and this video makes me really justify my choice. Been contemplating getting a full frame for stills but have always been on the fence due to the price (esp lenses) portability and color! Would be a dream to have the gfx system in the future.
The XH2 is amazing in terms of it's resolution and colour on a crop sensor camera. The GFX is also wonderful. I'm sure you'll love both. Be careful with the XH2's autofocus though, there is a bug in the current firmware.
Very helpful review. I shoot an R6 and Xt5 (as well as an xt30ii for fun) and I’m beginning to consider moving fully into Fuji. I don’t shoot my canon enough and when I do pull it out for gigs I’m experiencing frustration with the controls. My fujis are just so much more intuitive for me in making quick adjustments. I do appreciate the subject separation from the canon…beginning to look at what Fuji has to offer…
The Fujis are amazing cameras and honestly if it wasn’t for the focus issues they have I’d be using them all the time. (See my other video) They are due to drop an AF update later in the year that should fix it though.
Do you ever adjust the masking slider for the sharpening in Lightroom? It can really help with sharpening an image in general, allowing you to easily adjust what is being sharpened, but it also really helps fine tune the sharpening for Fuji files, IMO. I just noticed in your examples that masking was set to the default 0. It can really be the difference in sharpening important details, and a blanket sharpening across everything.
Hi JG, That absolutely helps but honestly the best solution I have found is to just turn the sharpening off and do it on export or as part of my grain process. I tend to finish my images with a batch process in photoshop to get it ready for publishing and that gives much better results than trying to deal with the raw sharpening in Lightroom.
@@bytomw That’s fair. I’ll have to give that a try. Admittedly I don’t do a lot of batch edits/exports. Although I probably should to free up some time on the back end. Ha. I’ve set a few presets to masking around 65, 75, and 95 as it usually just sharpens the areas that are in focus the most. Usually giving things like eyes or finer details a little extra pop with 95, and whole subject a little pop with 75, and a slightly missed focus shot a fighting chance to be usable with around 50-65. All while keep actual out of focus areas soft as intended. What I usually try to avoid is a blanket sharpening across an entire image, especially with Fuji files, because I don’t like it when out of focus areas get sharpened, too. But maybe the results are better like you’ve shown when doing it within the export process. I’ll give it a try. Thanks for the tip! Cheers!
They have GFX that costs less then a Nikon or Canon FF flagship. While they were behind in terms of GFX tech, they finally caught up a week ago with the first real medium format hybrid camera.
@@bytomw sorry, I commented before I did my research. Yeah, sad to see you leave the Fuji fam! My old X-T2 is still holding up, but food isn't difficult to focus on. 🤣
Excellent review/comparison. Nice one. I'm a longtime Fuji user -- coming to them with the original X100. I'm on an X-T4 at the moment, but planning on upgrading next year. Obviously, the H2s doesn't have the same 'classic' handling, with the dials, but I actually realised that I very rarely use them anyway! Only the aperture ring on the lenses. Given the price though, I was considering the Canon R6. So, this comparison has been really helpful. I was leaning more toward staying with Fuji anyway. I'd like to hear your thoughts on the whole handling experience of the H2s -- the EVF, touchscreen, customisation of the buttons, etc. Cheers. Subscribed!
I have been using Fuji on and off for personal stuff for years too. It’s been so nice to see how far these have come as a professional too. I just got done using this on a few client projects so I have more to say now. Watch this space! PS. Thanks for the comment!
Fantastic video; what other Fuji lenses you like using? know the XF33mm is expentionally good. I wonder if there are other lenses you feel the same about.
I have also been using the 18mm and 23mm 1.4 LM lenses and the 56mm 1.2. They are all stellar performers. Nice modern optics with lots of character in the background blur.
some h2 and h2s users are complaining that although the camera seems to be focusing on the screen the pictures are out of focus on the computer monitor especially for moving subjects
Great review and presentation!! I currently use a Sony a6400 with Tamron 17-70, Sony 70-350 and Samyang 12mm. I have been considering going with the Fuji system for a while now. Now that Tamron released a 17-70 for xMount, I’m even closer to making the switch. What were you saying about frame io and work flow? Just curious because I’ve heard that Fuji doesn’t play that well with Lightroom. Thoughts?
Lightroom doesn’t sharpen Fuji files correctly but honestly aside from that I love it for editing Fuji images. The workflow I mentioned uses a special grip that’s only available for the XH2 and XH2s
Quality video mate, I am a Fujifilm XT2 shooter (mostly photography) but have been on the mission to do a bit more video work. Of course, everyone under the sun recommends Canon, especially the R5, however, the angle you mention of the color reproduction is a huge benefit that I've admittedly taken for granted. The big drawback for me and almost making the leap towards Canon was simply put the shooting success rate. Maybe a topic for a video? Seeing how many shots are usable in sharpness using the correct eye for sharpness (the eye closest to camera). Anyways, I've seem to have ranted a bit but I am now looking to see if the XH2 or the XH2S is best for my needs. Final thought, let's not kid ourselves, if Canon dropped its prices to Fujifilm levels, we would all bail on Fuji. Change my mind! :)
I has the R5 as well as the R6 along with a full range or RF lenses… and I still went Fuji. It’s not about price it’s about understanding the tool you enjoy and how to get the best out of it. The XH2s is also the same price as the R6ii in the UK (although canon has no affordable midrange lenses at all) I just shot a couple’s shoot and I got the green light to edit it live. So if you want to see the hit rate on the new crop of Fujis feel free to watch! It’s not all that fair to compare an XT2 to the modern canon mirrorless, not only is the XT2 3 generations older than the canons the price point was significantly lower and mirror less AF in general hadn’t reached the level we have seen since the launch of the Sony A9 and A7iii. All that said these are all tools for a purpose. If you want maximum colour separation and pleasantness the Fuji is a winner, but the canon is amazing too if your happy with an overall warmer tone to your images, I have to make a tonne of HSL adjustments for the canon to get to where I like it but it could be perfect for you out of the box. Choice is amazing.
The Fuji is more expensive than cheap RF lenses because the construction of the lenses and the glass quality is better better. The Fuji LM lenses especially have exceptional colour reproduction and character. The canon L lenses are sharper but by every other metric the Fuji lenses are nicer to my eye than the canon RF.
If I was going to switch from cannon what lenses would you suggest to get? I would like to do portrait, product and street photography. :) any help would be really appreciated
I’d say watch the video I posted about the firmware in these cameras because at the moment they don’t focus properly and I can’t recommend them anymore. But I’d you watch that and still want to make the jump my advice would be to start with the LM primes. The 18mm, 23mm, 33mm 1.4 and the 56mm 1.2 WR are wonderful. If you only have budget for one I’d get the 23mm. It’s a great all around lens. If you have two go for a pair of the 18mm 1.4 and 33mm 1.4 or 23mm 1.4 and 56mm 1.2 WR depending on your preferred focal lengths.
You’d likely enjoy the canon most for stills but the Fuji has much better dynamic range for video. (Capturing details in highlights is much easier). Right now I’d have to say avoid the Fuji because there are issues with the autofocus but if you’re happy manually focusing interiors the XH2s is amazing. I don’t have hands on experience with the Panasonic.
Wow! Great article and awesome video. Thanks for time and efforts. I have been thinking to go back Canon at these days. After shooting weddings for 11 years with Canon I moved to Fuji 3 years ago. It has just started with the magical X100 series which I bought for a 3rd or a personal daily camera. I didn't shoot so many weddings at the pandemic and I really had issues with the Fujifilm cameras at these weddings. I had X-pro3 and XT-4 lately. Their AF systems are really not on the way I am looking for. ISO performances are really terrible when you compare even old Canon 5D Mark iv. The main reason I switched to Fuji was compactness. I had pains in my hands, back after more than 12 hour weddings with those stone heavy Canon 5Ds and lenses. I bought the new XH2-S when it first realized. I have had chance to shoot with in few weddings. The AF system really works very well. I don't know it is superior to Canon or Sony but it least it is a new era for FujiFilm systems. The ISO performance is still not show any progress! I really want to shoot at 6400 without any hesitation, but it is not still possible. The other important issue is the lack of back light shooting. The dynamic range does not allow your creativty. I shoot a wedding yesterday and it is really hard to focus on back light conditions and dynamic range is not on the page I am looking for. I am also a cof user. I uses two flashes in the corner as a backlight on the dance floor and one with me as a fill flash. The Canon 5D mark iv never failed in that kind of situations when I tried to add these lights as backlight without curtaining them. I haven't come up any videos about back light problems in Fuji. I think it hasn't been someones major problem. Your video makes me really thing.I am certain about going back to Canon before watching your video. I have XT-4, X-Pro3, X-H2S, (just sold my lovely X-100V), 18 f1.4, 23 f2, 35 f2, 56 f1.2 and 10-24 f4. It won't be easy to sell the whole system. By the way, I shoot 90% with 18 f1.4 and x-h2s and I am super happy with that focal length after shooting 35mm equivalent all time. I am not sure for going back right now but I need to shoot a whole wedding with r6 first I guess. The other thing I am pretty sure is getting rid of X-Pro3 and X-T4 immediately. After getting used to the X-h2s AF system you can not shoot with these two again.
I can see the appeal. The R6 is very clean up to iso 3200 and still clean at iso 6400 that said I add grain to most of my images on export and the way that the noise in my Fuji images presents looks really pleasing to my eye. I have had fewer focus issues with the Fuji than the canon and I haven’t experienced any of the dynamic range issues you mentioned with it, but as always a camera is a tool and if you want something different that’s totally fine. I will say that size and weight will still be a problem on canon. The bodies are heavier than Fuji but the real issue is the weight and size of the lenses. I shot a wedding with the R5 and 50mm 1.2 and a guest asked me if it was a 70-200 I was using. Hope you enjoy experimenting with the canon kit though!
Bokeh looks a little different from full frame to the Fuji sensor? I love my Fuji x100v which makes me interested in switching yet not sure I want to move from the full frame sensor of the rp and r6
That’s absolutely true. The 33mm 1.4 has a less pronounced background blur than the the 50mm 1.2. But aside from that one and 1/3 stop difference in depth of field the Fuji is better in every other way (at least for my taste)
If you haven’t tried the Fuji 14mm 2.8 I definitely recommend giving it a go. Just picked up one used ..and while I’m horrible at WA it’s been a blast!
Great video!, How was testing done via video/photo? Did you have noise reduction set to -4 on both video and photo? Id love to see a rundown of your camera settings.
I shoot in RAW for photo so the noise reduction settings don’t come into play. This is the performance you can expect from the camera shooting in raw with DR400 enabled. The video side I have the noise reduction set to it’s lowest setting but honestly my other video on grading Flog2 gives you a better look at my process for video.
@@bytomw thank you! Just a heads up the noise reduction affects the raws unfortunately haha. Theres video's out on it like a few months ago. Xing Liu has a video if you search it for a Fuji setting you should turn off!! Thank you Here's the video! th-cam.com/video/9652PVOJfBE/w-d-xo.html
@@bytomw I'm not sure how much more I gotta send but here's another to pursuade you bahah. I promise. They do affect the RAWs. th-cam.com/video/uyDnNfklGM4/w-d-xo.html
That one’s pretty conclusive! I’ll give it a go with it reduced and see how I get on! Weirdly in that example there isn’t much in the way of actual noise reduction it just seems to reduce contrast and smear details. Super weird. I know for a fact that other features on the Fuji happen before storing a raw. DR400 being one (I have that on almost all the time because I prefer the way it renders highlights)
you were very eloquent in your findings and i think we all appreciate that. but it's very clear and apparent which camera you prefer. You don't have a problem pointing out what you don't like about the Canon, but you're busy defending all of Fuji's shortcomings. very nice pics so i'll take away what i can from the pics but the words, i'll take with a grain of salt. thank you very much!
It’s funny I have had people comment that I was defending the canon too much and people say that I didn’t defend it enough. I clearly prefer the Fuji (it’s what I ended up buying). But you wouldn’t be unhappy with either camera and I hope that’s clear from the video 👍🏻
This was a great video. I want to use this fuji system but since using the 28-70 f2 on my r5 for over a year, I am not sure if I can ever go back to shooting with primes at a wedding. I have used the GFX with voight 58 for several years and absolutely LOVE the colors and skin tones, and it is frustrating to match it to the canon for sure. I just wish fuji had a mid range zoom 2.8 or wider option similar for this camera. :(
Great video. Your observations on colour science are much more detailed than on other channels. It would be excellent if you could do a video purely on this.
Happy to do it. I teach professional photographers about colour and how to get the results they want from their own work so it would make sense to touch on some of those subjects on the channel!
It’s not. The R6 especially has one of the cleanest sensors that I have ever used. The X-H2s needs work to get the image as clean even at low ISOs. It shoot my X-H2s at 640 all the time (with DR400 on) and I choose to run AI denoise on every final image in Lightroom.
I haven’t yet. Mainly because I typically favour normal focal lengths (35-50mm) for stills but honestly I’d be all over it if they launched a 33mm F1! I’m also considering a GFX for the times I’d want that shallower depth of field look.
Hey Tom, love your video! You should have waaay more subscribers! Anyway, you just got one more, love how you explain! I was looking to upgrade my t3i, and Fuji came to my mind, was looking into the EOS R (used) or the new R7, but definitely the lens options for Canon APS-C turns me down a little, also because if you third party lenses you need the adapter, and the whole thing can get way to big sometime, like with the Sigma 18-35 1.8! Anyway, I'm looking forward to see more of your content! Keep going strong
Thanks for the kind words! Honestly if you’re worried about the EF to RF adapter on canon I really wouldn’t. It’s rock solid and has absolutely no negative effect on image quality. I also absolutely loved my EOS R. It’s focusing system isn’t as advanced as either of these options sadly though. If I was on a budget and looking at Fuji I’d be taking a long and hard look at the XT5.
@bytomw You're welcome! Sorry, I think I didn't make my self clear, I'm worried about the size of the camera + adp + lens, it can't get very big sometimes, and then you lose the benefits of an APS-C camera, since you don't have third party lenses with the RF mount, like Fuji have so many compact options already, with hight quality. But is always a hard decision to make hehee thanks for the response Tom! Have a nice week
Sort of, there is a bunch of the settings in the Fuji that do get backed into the RAW files. The DR400 DR200 DR100 settings for example are all applied before storing the data. BUT C1 does to a better job with fuji raws and they collaborated to add the film emulations into the processing options in C1
Honestly I try never to touch the tone curve. It’s really hard to make adjustments that can be changed image to image so for me it’s very much a case of only using it if I can’t make the adjustment by another method. The same goes for the colour grading panel. That said curves are a powerful tool.
Hi Tom, really appreciate the video. I want to start photography again.. sold my Canon 5d mark II and ef lenses couple of years ago. So I start from scratch and as munch I love Canon camera and interface the price and choice of lenses make me steer to Fuji H2s. The 18mm and 33mm together looks great quality.. will do the job for me and at a reasonable cost.
That’s really cool to hear! It’s always great to see someone jumping back into their creative process. That’s basically all I’m using right now. I have (but don’t use) the 56mm 1.2 as well but the 18mm and 33mm cover 85% of what I need. If you’re only taking photos id be tempted to check out the new XT5 that launched around the time this video dropped. It’s a really lovely form factor and I’m seeing some absolutely stunning colours from that camera too!
I know this video came out before. But if you love the bokeh. The 75 1.2 from Viltrox is absolutely fantastic and sharp. And extremely affordable for the quality you pay.
This was a good breakdown! I was, at one point, considering going back to Canon but I honestly love my Fuji gear not to mention the cost of going back. The vast majority of the Fuji lenses are solid too, even their "kit" lens is really good. Two of my personal favorites are 23mm f2 and 56mm f1.2, I use both for portraits and street work. I'd love to get your thoughts on the 56mm.
Canon top tier camera bodies & lenses are cost prohibitive for many people. I left Canon after 40 years of using their products- from the film era (Canon F1) camera to a digital camera(5dsr). Not to mention many Canon “L” lenses. Sold all of my Canon gear & moved to Fuji. IMHO, Fuji camera s & lenses offer tremendous value for their price point.
First of all, I Love the video and I am now looking into buying this camera as my first Fuji camera so I THANK YOU KINDLY my friend. 🙏 However, maybe I missed something within the video but I'm not understanding why did you compare 2 cameras but used different lenses that have different apertures? Do you think that is a "fair" comparison? You have already given a heads up to Canon (sharpness & bokeh) using the faster glass. 🤔
Honestly I think this has been my most common comment on the test. I’m comparing the best the systems have to offer at my preferred focal length (90% of my work is on a 50mm equivalent lens). Fairness isn’t the objective, I’m aiming to understand what the maximum quality I can expect is. I use these cameras for work so the initial cost of the system matters less to me than some (although it’s still important for sure). I’d recommend watching my follow up video on the AF issues with the current gen Fuji cameras. The short version is that Fuji ruined the AF tracking modes in firmware and I actually had to move back to canon (more on that coming soon).
That is very interesting because I am trying to leave Canon and you are going back to them. Is it because of the Auto Focusing? I see that only Sony and Canon seem to have that right. Everyone else is a deer in headlights and still taking people's money without having solid product. @@bytomw
It all depends on someone's needs. Both cameras are great, however after spending some time with both, I can tell you if you want great autofocus and ease of use- go Canon and do not be scared of an expansive R lans. Just mount on adapter and use many available affordable canon lens. If you are after colours and ethtetics- take Fuji route.
You're right, I actually made a followup video on this topic because fujifilm actually broke their AF system by trying to improve the tracking system. In short, it's the best tracking on the planet now... but the lens can't keep up so you get a lot of false posetives in terms of focus. I fully recommend canon over fujifilm's X-Series now. The X100VI included.
I’m never really into looking at portraits of men, but your video kept me glued to the screen for its entirety. Great content too! With the Canons, I have an EOS R, I also find more color noise, plus the ISO invariance is rather lacking.
I'm glad you enjoyed the video, for what it's worth I think the EOS-R's sensor is one of canons best. Not from a technical standpoint (everything you said is right) but I just like the way the image looks right out of the box, no tweaking like I had to do here on the R6 and the R5 I also owned.
@@bytomw agree actually, it is why I still have not moved away from my R to the R5 or R6. I am very confused with Canon’s strategy for mirrorless, and with the rejection of 3rd party lens for the near future, I am looking to return to Fuji 100%
I have considered both! The XH2 was a strong contender for me but in the end the better video performance of the XH2s swung me. I also really love the way this sensor looks! That said I’m keen to try an XT5 and the GFX options. I have used a GFX 50s in the past and loved every moment of it!
I have a Fuji GFX50R and the X-H1 and I am annoyed at 2 things: focus which it often misses and low-light noise. Both cameras have the same issue so not related to crop sensor. I wish you had compared that too because that is a drawback of the Fuji system.
I made a second video about the issue I had with the fujis focus system. It doesn’t get as much traction as this one. The tracking AF was so unreliable I moved back to canon. I don’t use My GFX at all with AF though. Manual focus only
That’s true but at a 75mm focal length. You’re 100% correct on the F stop equivalence but I was trying to compare “normal” focal lengths. Having used them both I really enjoy the depth I’m getting even from the 1.4 lenses on the Fuji system.
It depends on what you need, if you want focus tracking that's foolproof and full frame aesthetics it's the canon. That said I think Flog2 looks better than Clog3.
I never shoot a portrait, even at 85 mm FF equiv., at less than f4, because of the thin depth of field making the eyes, nose and ears look weird, as they all can’t be in decent focus at once at f < 4 approx. on top of that, the Fuji 50-140 f2.8 is freaking amazing!
That's awesome. Honestly If I shot like that I'd have moved over to fuji years ago! So many amazing lenses that allow you to get that look. Personally I prefer the medium format film vibe. Normal lenses with a depth of field between 1.0-2.0 normally around 1.4. It's difficult to nail the focus up close but perfect for full body portraits.
Having owned Fujifilm for years I have given up and moved the other way to Canon. I haven't used the new XH2 or S but had the XT4 with a bunch of the new 1.4 primes and the high ISO and lack of confidence in autofocus frustrated me for my wedding work. Been using a Canon EOS R and a R6 and they are vastly superior, even with the 1.8 lenses I am seeing much better results than I had with the Fuji. I think that you can get the job done with Fujifilm but the time you have with it won't be as smooth sailing as with the Canon. Plus the editing in LR is much better with the Canon files too. Fujifilm is ok for comfortable enthusiast photography but at the price point they are at you can get much better performance elsewhere for pro work. Still a long way for them to go in my opinion to compete with Sony and Canon.
I have been going back and forth on the Fuji system since they launched the X-Pro1 I often had a 2nd camera that was fujifilm but they where never my main system. This is the generation that they cracked everything I cared about. We didn’t touch on it in this video but the AF is like glue now. Also I’m a hybrid photographer and this camera is INCREDIBLE for video. It’s the perfect camera for multi format video.
Fuji changed a lot since Fujifilm X-H2S and new 1.4 WR primes lenses . Autofocus yes , still behind Canon and Sony but there are many areas Fuji outperforms both Canon and Sony , X-T4 was just a decent camera , but X-H2S , X-H2 and XT-5 are amazing . They are as good as or even better than any of the competitor from Canon and Fuji
@@neethuandthomasphotography I have since bought a Fujifilm X-T5 and returned it as it really wasn't as good as my canon gear for what I do, autofocus seemed to be great until I got home and realised it still missed alot of shots and high ISO performance is much weaker than the competition which I need for my work. It's all about tools to fit what you do and as nice a camera it is the XT5 just isn't good enough for what I need and I can get better elsewhere for a similar price. Sometimes cameras work for us sometimes they don't that's just the nature of gear.
@@alexsteiner7544 X-H2 is better than X-T5 in pretty much everything and X-T5 is a big upgrade from X-T4 and we all know nothing can beat Canon when it comes to autofocus..
I tend to agree but for me this is a work investment, the Canon lenses I had paid for themselves many times over while I owned them but for someone that isn't making their main income for photography I don't really know why you'd want to spend the money on lenses.
Great video comparing two amazing lenses. One aspect I think you missed that’s worth noting is the size/weight difference between the RF50 f1.2 and XF33 f1.4. If you’re looking for a smaller/lighter kit, then the Canon is not your ticket. I’m fortunate to own both lenses. I have an R6 and the shots that come from that RF50 f1.2 are just incredible. That lens is so razor sharp that it makes that 20mp sensor outshine and rival some 30mp sensors. I don’t know how it does it, but it’s amazing. I also own a Fuji X-T2 that I’ve never been able to bring myself to part with because it is such a great little camera, and I picked up the 33mm for it. Now that is a travel friendly kit that goes everywhere with me. It’s my family shoots, holidays, parties, etc … camera, but whenever I want that extra image quality-that top shelf tier quality, then I’m taking the R6 with the Rf50 1.2 beast. Both kits will produce beautiful pictures regardless.
You're right, I pretty much only talked about the IQ in some of the most typical situations I shoot in, I'll absolutely be expanding and covering other areas like performance, form factor etc in other videos. You're pretty much dead on with you conclusions though, they are both amazing lenses. The 33mm may not perform as well technically as the RF lens I love the results. They have a character I don't see in the RF 1.2. You nailed it about the detail on lower resolution sensors too. I used the 1.2 on the EOS-R and R5 and it looked just as sharp on those bodies as the R6. It's outstanding.
Great question! At the time of recording the R6 II wasn't available, I owned the R6 from launch so I compared what I had to what I was contemplating a move to. To add thoughts on the R6ii though it looks great! the still IQ seems to be nearly identical to the R6 from what I can tell, it does fix some of my complaints around video overheating though! No mention of low light largely because I'm a commercial/corporate photographer primarily and the camera was pristine up to ISO 3200, as such it wasn't an issue for my use case. I typically shoot it at ISO 640 with the extended dynamic range settings on (DR400) so I'm shooting it in it's most noise prone settings and the camera has still been exemplary. the R6 has less visible noise at all ISOs but I still prefer the look of the XH2s. I have some other image examples prepped to show the noise levels on the XH2s but haven't had a chance to make a full video on the subject yet.
I actually sold my Canon gear the day after it was announced. It didn’t change anything. It felt like they wanted to sell me an upgrade that feels more like a firmware fix than a real upgrade in performance. I also don’t like the way canon are currently treating 3rd part optics. All that said I can see why if your about to invest the R6II is compelling.
I have been working with my Sony a7rlll the last four years , came from canon 6d, and wow the autofocus was amazing, but honestly I always felt it was a bit to good for me, like I was not fully connected to the process, might sound weird but I believe it’s like driving a manual Vs automatic car, it’s just very different experience. Also coming from canon to Sony, the colors where horrible and the system was just overwhelming, too much functions. I just got the Fuji xt 5 and I’m exited to try it out. Im a bit worried about going down from full frame and loosing the dept of field but me and Sony just don’t work so I have yo try ❤
The colour on the Fujis is wonderful and the lens design is fantastic, the only issue I would see is the tracking AF problems I detailed in my later video.
Bought a X-T5 (af issues) and a HS2 (with a lens mount problem out of the box) got a refund (I just asked for a store credit) ... sold my existing 8 fujinon lenses, went simple with a Canon R6II, RF lenses 14-35, 24-105, 70-200 and honestly couldn't be happier. Files are beautiful, high ISO is amazing, AF is fantastic, eye detect is incredible, app is easy. My transition back to Canon has been a great experience, the RF 'L" lenses are the best. Just my experience.
The 50mm F1.0 is a 75mm F1.5 equivalent. You could get the same depth of field from an 85mm 1.8 that’s smaller lighter and focuses more accurately than the Fujinon. I don’t enjoy shooting short tele lenses as much as normal/wide lenses but if that’s your thing that’s cool. If you discount the focal length of a lens and just want to look at depth of field alone Fuji also make a 200mm F2.0 you might want to try.
You need to run your Fuji files throughAI denoise or just enhance detail in LrC to have them be demosaiced properly. That said... I hate oversharpening and 40 in LrC is too sharp no matter the brand. Oh and the 50mm F1.2 photos look way better. They have that airiness and highlight handling that only FF/MF can achieve.
I agree, I normally set sharpening to 0 in Lr for most of my canon files. The 50mm 1.2 RF especially is bonkers when it comes to detail and needs softening in many situations not sharpening.
Woulld be good to see it with the H2 , perhaps you can use comparable lenses .. the 50 1.2 is a totally different game .. I have the EF version and its a cheat code of a lens ;) I've used it with Canon and now with the FUJI H2 .. awesome
You’re absolutely right about the sharpness. I have been a beta tester for Capture One Styles and ICC profiles for a few different companies and used both C1 and Lightroom for professional work. Sharpness issues aside I still prefer Lightroom as an editing platform and for many working photographers this is their main choice. I wanted to show someone what the average photographer would experience when comparing the two.
I shoot commercial stills and video (almost 50/50) and honestly most of my clients complain if I deliver files over a certain size. Almost everything is web resolution only. So for me the XH2 made less sense than the XH2s. That said I’m not against grabbing an XH2 or XT5 for high resolution stills. 👍🏻 If I was stills only I’d take either I think.
I agree its not as smooth sailing with fujifilm over canon(lowlight, autofocus)the problem is canon still does not have a 35mm 1.4 and this is just not normal in 2023.You can shoot a full wedding with a X-H2S with a 23mm 1.4 a 33mm 1.4 and a 56mm 1.2..one camera with 3 prime lenses will cost you $5000 for the same price as a Canon r5 and a 50mm 1.2.COSTING $5000.This is why I always recommend people go with fujifilm unless you have lots of money and don't need a 35mm lolol.
That's a fair point, the price difference is substantial. I don't ever feel like a Fujifilm Lens investment is going t break the bank. That said right now I cannot get the fuji system to focus reliably and I might end up having to re-buy at least one of those Canons.
If money was no object at all and you want a Fuji I’d go for a GFX system. Especially if you only shoot stills. That said the XH2 and XT5 are great cameras. I prefer the colours from the XH2s but honestly if you weren’t comparing side by side I think the XT5 and XH2 are both solid options.
Canon R6 + adapter. It is that simple. If you shoot a lot - you gotta buy a good gear. Fuji is a niche camera manufacturer, they're not competing to win the prosumers market share.
I'm not sure what this is in reference to in the context of this video but I'd argue that Fujifilm sells the definitive prosumer range of cameras in the X100V. I'd say both of these bodies are aimed at Working Pros and Advanced amateurs equally. I still stand by my statements about the image quality, although the Fujifilm proved to be far less reliable after the 3.0 firmware was released and I moved back to canon (I made a follow up video).
Lightroom is the problem mate. Try capture one, it's a night and day difference for detail and sharpness for Fuji. It's really criminal how dirty adobe does Fuji.
XH2s spanks event the Sony A7IV in features and quality, R6 is a toy in comparison but the canon having that autofocus makes it better and I hate my Fujifilm for that, it's simply not a reliable autofocus system for video
Lightroom is not a good editing process for Fuji files. You should’ve use capture one that is a much better platform to give you greater results. This is still not fair because Canon works great in light Room .. Fuji does not work as Great
I have and use both C1 and Lightroom, despite the sharpness issue I still prefer the results from Lightroom for colour and contrast 👍 Also Lightroom is the dominant platform and for many professionals it’s not always reasonable to expect anyone to change software when they change system. But as I said. I have and use both.
You must be doing something wrong because there is definitely a difference between the two editing software and the way they process the raw files & Lightroom is definitely.. not the way to go with the Fuji file.. if you are looking for the best results when it comes to sharpening capture one or iridium is the way to go
You're entitled to your opinion. That said I teach Lightroom and Capture One and I have been a beta tester for colour styles and ICC Profiles in C1 and Presets and Profiles in Lightroom. It's not a lack of understanding that formed my opinion, quite the opposite. I didn't say there was no difference between the two. I expressly said there were differences in both colour rendition and contrast. I also didn't say Capture One had bad colour or contrast, it absolutely doesn't. I said I prefer the results from Lightroom even though the sharpening panel doesn't work as intended with X-Trans files. There is more to an image than sharpness.
Absolutely. These are details they matter more if your spending hours editing the files. I will say though it’s a totally different story if you ever shoot video. The XH2s is possibly the best video camera I have used… and it happens to perform this well for stills at the same time!
Strong background music made this unwatchable for me after 4 minutes. Try 80% lower volume than what you had or even better don't edit with music over talking parts.
Absolutely. That’s exactly what I was getting at. I compared the Fuji to the RF 50mm 1.8 also later in the video. But they had the opposite problem of being a really affordable lens. Right now there is no mid priced 50mm offer from canon. That said if you’re a working pro and you buy the best each system has to offer this is what you can expect.
Canons biggest problem (easy) is the fact that they won't allow other companies like Sigma to produce RF lenses for their cameras. So you will have to spend big time, or settle for older lenses.
@@bytomw But do you really need such a depth of field ? I am an APS-C shooter so I don’t know. Do you get the whole face of a person in focus when using a 35-50 f1.4 on full frame and the person stands in a slight angle to the camera ?
Need is a strange thing, I personally shoot that wide open for the character of the lens more than for the depth of field with one exception. Full body portraits. A 50mm 1.2-1.4 will make a subject pop when shooting farther away from the subject. I thought I needed that, I'm not sure I do anymore the fuji 33mm 1.4 looks fantastic when you shoot that wide open in the same situation. As a direct answer to your question it depends on the distance. If you shoot a person at the minimum focus distance of the lens absolutely not. You'll have to choose what features you want to have critically sharp... and that's a good or a bad thing depending on your taste.
I’ve now owned the X-H2S. A7IV, and R6ii. If I had to pick one based on images SOOC or just slight edits it would be the Fuji. I LOVE the build quality of the Canon but it’s so heavy compared to the Fuji setup. The R6ii AF is shockingly good. The high ISO noise levels of the R6ii are amazing. ..
We have a trip to Boston coming up & I KNEW I was taking the R6ii .. but I picked up a used X-T4 (and X-Pro2 on the way) ..and I think Fuji kit will be coming to Boston. This video nails my experience in that I get sharp & well balanced images from the Canon.. but I think I’m willing to give up razor sharp for the colors & tones of the Fuji.
That's a pretty spot on summary all in all.
Hey mate. Do you have any feedback on the AF of the 2 cameras? Is Fuji ok for sport or not? Cheers
@ The X-H2S is the ONLY Fuji I would say has AF that will be very good for sports. I am sure there are people who will chime in and say they shoot Formula 1 with an X-E2. Bless them.. I can’t. Note the X-H2S and X-H2 are NOT the same in regards to AF.. the X-H2S is MUCH better.
@@TCinSoCal thanks man
Capture One for Fuji Raw was an absolute game changer for me. Try it out if you haven’t. I couldn’t get myself to use it for the longest time but the difference is considerable.
Why?
I have used C1 extensively over the last 5 years and honestly even with the reduction in sharpness while editing I still prefer Lightroom as a platform for managing a catalogue and colour correcting.
C1 handles the de-Bayering of the sensor so much better than Lightroom but it’s about more than just that one element for me.
@@bytomw Cant argue with that. I still def use Lightroom like 80% of the time. Yet, there are specific scenarios where I just know C1 is going to be miles better. (ie headshots and landscapes)
I can totally see why. I still love C1 for anything tethered too!
@@bytomw Totally agree. That is why I use both. Lightroom for cataloguing and edits where I don't need the full quality. C1 for editing for maximal quality (especially landscapes with a lot of green color).
That was one of the best comparison videos ive seen on youtube in the past 3yrs excellent job
Thanks Frank! More to come soon 👍🏻
That B cam with the 56 on it!!!! Talk about shallow depth of field 👌👌
I sold all of my Sony gear to move to the Fuji system. I couldn’t be happier. There was nothing wrong with Sony, but there was also nothing special either. The Fuji files are something special. Also, to your point around depth of field FF bs APSC, well, outside of gear reviews, it’s so rare to sit there and compare the two. 99% of folks would see images in isolation, and be happy!
Thanks for a great video.
It seams absolutely lovely. Honestly I haven’t had a chance to use it for stills yet (it was my last addition and the 85mm focal length is the least used in my kit) but I’m looking forward to giving it a solid test.
I’m also looking at the Mitakon 35mm 0.95 and speed boosters as alternatives to get my “fast 50mm” look.
totally thought you had way more subs based on the video production quality alone. totally subbing good luck with the fujifilm
Thanks Sam, I appreciate the kind words!
This was literally the video I was looking for - thank you!!
Glad it helped but I'd watch my follow up! They RUINED the tracking AF system on the fuji a few months after I posted this
Very precise and insightful video Tom! I’m a fellow Fujifilm X shooter since the XT2 and am loving the system. I’m dreaming of one day adding the GFX to my workflow, if and when my work justifies it. Agree with you, Canon’s pricing is just ridiculous. That RF 50mm F1.2 costs more then both the GF80mm F1.7 and GF110mm F2, and both these GF lenses are medium format lenses and both have arguably better image quality than the Canon.
This is true, The UK Prices on Canon gear are among the highest world wide too. Fuji seems like an absolute bargain by comparison.
@@bytomw absolutely. In fact, with today’s UK price, the Fujifilm GFX50S II + GF80mm F1.7 is a whopping £1755 cheaper than the Canon RF + RF50mm F1.2! And if we were to kind of compare apples to apples, the GFX100S + GF110mm F2 combo is still £240 cheaper than a Canon R5 + RF85mm F1.2. This is crazy! I think if anyone is a portrait photographer and fast autofocus isn’t a priority, then both the GFX option is a much better option than Canon.
I can't wait for them to launch the new 55mm 1.7 for the GFX there is a good chance I'll be jumping on that and a 50s II when it drops.
Arguably better image than the Canon? No, the GFX definitely has better image quality than the Canon.
Wow, just wow.
I was already considering getting the X-H2S as my main camera for wedding and portrait photography...
I think this video just helped push me over the edge.
When you showed the small difference in clarity between the Fuji and the Canon, with the added perspective of the price difference...well...I'll leave that to each person's opinion whether it's worth it to them or not, but I'd argue, not really.
The difference could only be noticed because the photos were compared *side by side*...for client work, given the better looking colors of the Fuji (what really sets the tone and feel of a photo anyways), I think it's not worth the added expense.
I'd love to see some stills with the 56mm 1.2f and check out how creamy the bokeh is, but given what I saw with your footage of it in this video, I'd say it will slay just nicely.
Again, thanks for helping me decide.
Sub'd.
Thanks for the kind words! If don’t use AF tracking it’s a killer camera especially for the money!
@Kryptiik which camera did you end up using? Fuji or Canon?
Love this! Was super shocked by the Fuji 33m f1.4 vs the Canon 50mm f1.8!
Thanks Haris, honestly I think the lenses have more to do with the quality than anything else.
The Fuji lens is amazing but the RF lenses are engineered to perform on another level.
Overall I’d take the Fuji any day 👍🏻
Yes. I have the 18 f1.4, 33 f1.4, 56 f1.2 WR and 90 f2. They are all very sharp, but the 90 is so freakishly sharp, it looks like medium format. The new 56 f1.2 is a very close 2nd, but no complaints about any of them and they are a fraction of the cost and size of the Sony GM lenses I used to use. The weight of the system, the ergonomics, the color and the size and quality of the lenses have made it much easier for me to shoot long days at weddings and I agree with you that I have to fuss less with the color.
That's exactly the set I picked up (minus the 90mm F2) I'm keen to test it out more.
The rf 1.8 prime lenses from Canon are not very high end. They're not even weather sealed when they just release recently.
@@bytomw The 90 f2 is the only one with quad linear motors, so the AF is insanely fast and silent, especially on the XT5. The 90f2 is their sharpest and fastest focusing lens, but I only need it because I've photographed weddings for 23 years. It's not a very handy focal length (135 equivalent) otherwise...
Freaking well done!!! So thorough!! Loved watching this, best comparison I have seen! Also love your new podcast!!!! 👏
Honestly I love fujifilm, I really wish they hadn't bricked all their newest cameras, I'm tempted to grab more of the older generation though because I genuinely love fuji's colours.
@@bytomw hands down to my eye they have the most pleasing images out of any camera system I have used.
Do you think the XH2 (not 2-S) would be a good equivalent as well?
If your shooting stills only I’m sure it would be awesome (purely because it’s more affordable).
I’m not sure how much more real detail you’d get from these lenses on a higher resolution sensor but I’m interested to take a look for myself!
I’m considering picking one up for testing but honestly for my needs the XH2s is the perfect balance of stills and video performance.
@@bytomw Thank you for the response! Yeah, I do 0% video work, so I'll most likely go with the HX2, over the XH2-S.
great video! just note: 17:31 the focus point is not the same, the phone case is out of focus. 🤗
Both shots had the cameras confirm focus on the index finger 👍🏻
Either you’re seeing the difference in the way the lenses render focus in front of the focal point or it’s a focus accuracy issue with the R6 RF 1.8 combo.
But I absolutely see what you see.
This is super helpful - super well done - and perfectly laid out.
Thanks for the kind words Miles! More deep dives to come for sure. 👍🏻
Excellent vid, thanks! Have been toying with the idea of a new R5 (currently 5D4) but recently purchased a GFX50r and loving the fuji colours and community. This got me thinking about going all in on Fuji for my general work cameras. I've been looking at the Fuji XH2/s reviews and like what I'm seeing, ok I'm reducing the size of the sensor slightly but very rarely are my images printed that large. I don't do or offer any video at the moment but really want to get into making short films and need to learn so maybe the XH2s is better option than the XH2 for me ...
Long story short unless you are shooting your primes at an aperture wider than F2 all the time on full frame the Fuji can match the overall aesthetics of full frame.
If you want or need shallower depth of field I’d go for the 80mm 1.7 on your GFX (or awesome manual lenses like the Voigtlander 58mm 1.4).
Aside from the full frame at 1.4 look Fuji basically nails everything else, the XH2s has excellent autofocus, dynamic range and the noise looks pleasing.
@@bytomw Thanks Tom, yep that 80mm 1.7 is ridiculous and I like the sound of that Voigtlander. I sometimes shoot on my Canon at 1.4 (Sigma 50 Art) but only occasionally (mainly in low light situations out of necessity) hopefully Fuji will catch up with some lovely wide open lenses soon...
They have a 55mm 1.7 planned for the GFX (it’s on the roadmap but not released as yet) I really can’t wait to test that!
Love your content but your underscore is too loud. Subscribed nonetheless.
Noted for next time. Honestly I typically don’t use background music so I might just drop the underscore in future. 👍🏻👍🏻
@@bytomw you can have it lower during talking bits, and leave it at this volume for the transition
Great video with honest analysis! You have a new subscriber.
Welcome aboard!
seeing the absolute miniscule differences between the lens side by side really puts things into perspective
Ultimately this is the truth of the matter. I’m actively trying to find fault and honestly it’s all down to preference.
Thanks for the great video. that’s pretty much the same results i was getting with my R6 and XH2S although I couldn’t afford the canon 50f1.2😢 instead i did have sigma 50 f1.4 art and it was still a softer background then the Fuji. However in everything else and especially when using Capture one, I preferred the skin tones and color tones on the Fuji. So I ended up selling my Canon System
Honestly I don't blame you. The Canon L-Lenses are insane prices, especially in the UK. That said the final lenses were so impressive.
I really don't regret the move to fuji for a moment though!
Buy the Fuji 50 1.0 problem solved
The 50mm F1 is a 75mm 1.5 equivalent. Sadly that’s longer than I’d like for a my “normal” lens.
@@bytomw great portrait lens!
Can’t argue with that! I have the 56mm 1.2 and I’m really enjoying that too!
really fantastic and well done review, thanks!
Thanks for the kind words I appreciate it.
I have both and I always grab the Fuji. Will be selling the R6 soon. Agree with everything you said
It's just so compelling to be able to work with those colours!
nice to see you chose the FOOJ
Thanks Man, it's not a simple choice on stills alone but I really prefer the results form the Fuji!
ARJ on the tube!!! So good to see his beautiful face!! Anyway, more to the point, this video was super insightful... I watched it a few weeks ago and I'm now coming back to say thank you!! I'm in the Sony Wedding Photographer brigade and although technically amazing, I feel the Sony's are too clinical, almost soulless, and I feel stale and predictable when using it. I've had an off-and-on love affair with Fuji for years and always feel more creative and happier when using them. The depth of field difference and raw file quality/sharpness were what held me back from using them professionally. I'm coming to the conclusion that wide open isn't always the best, especially at weddings and that is ok. Then, after picking up an X-T5 to try, the quality of the Raws at 40MP now matches my Sony files, has better colour and are much easier to manipulate and get the look you want. But I wouldn't have even looked again if your video wasn't so concise and honest!! Thanks Tom!! As a side note, if you want the RAF's to have clarity and sharpness in LR, DXO Pure Raw is a game-changer!
I'm really glad you enjoyed the video Martin.
I was in the same boat as you with the Sony camera situation and having it feel like things where a little too clinical!
I haven't tried that new 40MP sensor out yet mainly because of just how happy I have been with the XH2s but I'm gonna see if I can get my hands on an XT5 for a while.
On the DXO front I have tired them on my fuji files and felt that they affected the colour of the files more than I would like. They add insane amounts of detail though and absolutely give you a sharper more modern look with little effort!
Thanks again for commenting and I hope you'll stick around!
Did you do a pixel mapping in the camera menu before sending the X-H2S back? Often cameras come with pixels that appear stuck from the factory, but it’s a result of cosmic radiation during long shipping periods. The calibration is thrown out as a result, hence why there’s a pixel mapping function in the menu. Fuji, Sony and Nikon have separate menu options for it whereas Canon cameras do it when a manual sensor cleaning is performed in the menu.
Hey Womz, My first edition had a really pronounced issue that wasn't fixed by the Pixel Mapping, but my new pair of XH2s where both fine and pixel mapping was all that was needed.
This is good advice for anyone else experiencing issues like this though!
For a video about comparing two very different camera bodies, it is nice that you emphasise the difference in colour rendition you get.
On the other hand, the difference in background separation is mainly about the lens used (33mm f1.4 vs 50mm f1.2), to know if you can be satisfied with the F1.4 APS-C lens, you could just stop the 50mm down to F2.1 to get identical results to what you would get if you shot it on the Fuji system before you go get the body and lens. Interesting is that the Canon 50mm F1.8 is significantly lighter than the Fuji and still produces more background separation (although at the cost of far lower build quality)
I included that comparison later in the video. I even addressed the difference in depth, shooting the 50mm 1.8 and 50mm 1.2 at F2.2 and the 33mm 1.4 wide open to give an equivalent Depth of field.
Great video!! I love the detailed analysis; this must have taken quite a bit of work to put together. I'm a Nikon to Fuji convert (well mostly, since I'm still sitting on the fence to some degree).
You might want to consider dropping music in the background. This was a bit like having a gnat buzzing in my ear while I was trying to listen to something that's really fascinating to me. Otherwise, I'm super happy that I've subscribed.
You’re not the only one to say this. I’ll drop the background music next time (I’d drop it this time but I can’t re-upload without the music)
Loved your review of the Fuji and the Canon. How may I ask how are you color grading your Fuji Log footage it looks great. I also have the Fuji xh-2s and the XH-2 along with the Fuji GFX 100s. And I'm a Nikon shooter as well Z9. There is nothing better then Fuji colors. As far as depth of field you left out the Fuji 50 1.0 it's a fabulous lens. What sort of content will you be adding in the future?
My next video is going to be about colour grading! I have a bunch of comparisons on different methods of log conversion! The footage is filmed, I'm just working on the to-camera parts over the next few days.
Excellent analysis. Those of us who aren’t high end professionals make cost benefit decisions, and half the price for almost as good is an easy call. I also think you proved that so much of image quality is in the lens and not the size of the sensor. I imagine the current 40 MB sensor from Fuji would make the differences even less.
Honestly I’d take the lower resolution sensor.
I made another video about the issues with focus I had but I’m back on another 24mp-ish sensor Canon R6ii.
It’s excellent for so many applications.
Just bought the xh2 on a plan to start my photography business and this video makes me really justify my choice. Been contemplating getting a full frame for stills but have always been on the fence due to the price (esp lenses) portability and color! Would be a dream to have the gfx system in the future.
The XH2 is amazing in terms of it's resolution and colour on a crop sensor camera.
The GFX is also wonderful. I'm sure you'll love both. Be careful with the XH2's autofocus though, there is a bug in the current firmware.
Can you share the flies in raw of the portrait made with h2s and R6? (1 is enough) :) Thank you!
I showed the unedited raw file in the main video on several occasions but sadly I'm not comfortable making raw files public.
@@bytomw thank you!
Very helpful review. I shoot an R6 and Xt5 (as well as an xt30ii for fun) and I’m beginning to consider moving fully into Fuji. I don’t shoot my canon enough and when I do pull it out for gigs I’m experiencing frustration with the controls. My fujis are just so much more intuitive for me in making quick adjustments. I do appreciate the subject separation from the canon…beginning to look at what Fuji has to offer…
The Fujis are amazing cameras and honestly if it wasn’t for the focus issues they have I’d be using them all the time. (See my other video)
They are due to drop an AF update later in the year that should fix it though.
This was really great, man. Congrats.
Thanks Sam! More to come for sure. Gutted I had to wait so long to make this.
@@bytomw great news, mate, I’ve got your bell on! 😅
Do you ever adjust the masking slider for the sharpening in Lightroom? It can really help with sharpening an image in general, allowing you to easily adjust what is being sharpened, but it also really helps fine tune the sharpening for Fuji files, IMO. I just noticed in your examples that masking was set to the default 0.
It can really be the difference in sharpening important details, and a blanket sharpening across everything.
Hi JG,
That absolutely helps but honestly the best solution I have found is to just turn the sharpening off and do it on export or as part of my grain process.
I tend to finish my images with a batch process in photoshop to get it ready for publishing and that gives much better results than trying to deal with the raw sharpening in Lightroom.
@@bytomw That’s fair. I’ll have to give that a try. Admittedly I don’t do a lot of batch edits/exports. Although I probably should to free up some time on the back end. Ha.
I’ve set a few presets to masking around 65, 75, and 95 as it usually just sharpens the areas that are in focus the most. Usually giving things like eyes or finer details a little extra pop with 95, and whole subject a little pop with 75, and a slightly missed focus shot a fighting chance to be usable with around 50-65. All while keep actual out of focus areas soft as intended.
What I usually try to avoid is a blanket sharpening across an entire image, especially with Fuji files, because I don’t like it when out of focus areas get sharpened, too. But maybe the results are better like you’ve shown when doing it within the export process. I’ll give it a try. Thanks for the tip! Cheers!
Part of my immediate setup with any Fuji has been NR -4 & Sharpening +1
If Fujifilm bring out a full frame camera, they're going to blow everyone else out the water.
I 100% agree.
Unless the GFX catches up FAST.
@@bytomw this and a cinema camera
Fuji already has something better than full frame… its called medium format even tough its larger than 35mm
They have GFX that costs less then a Nikon or Canon FF flagship. While they were behind in terms of GFX tech, they finally caught up a week ago with the first real medium format hybrid camera.
@@itacatv2146Did not understand your typing. Please can you reword it? You said they finally caught up a week ago. With what camera(s) and how?
How is the Fuji focus? They are supposedly having focus issues?
I have two other videos on the issues on my channel. In a nutshell it’s busted.
@@bytomw sorry, I commented before I did my research. Yeah, sad to see you leave the Fuji fam! My old X-T2 is still holding up, but food isn't difficult to focus on. 🤣
The XT2 is HIGHLY under rated.
Love that camera.
Excellent review/comparison. Nice one. I'm a longtime Fuji user -- coming to them with the original X100. I'm on an X-T4 at the moment, but planning on upgrading next year. Obviously, the H2s doesn't have the same 'classic' handling, with the dials, but I actually realised that I very rarely use them anyway! Only the aperture ring on the lenses.
Given the price though, I was considering the Canon R6. So, this comparison has been really helpful. I was leaning more toward staying with Fuji anyway. I'd like to hear your thoughts on the whole handling experience of the H2s -- the EVF, touchscreen, customisation of the buttons, etc.
Cheers. Subscribed!
I have been using Fuji on and off for personal stuff for years too. It’s been so nice to see how far these have come as a professional too.
I just got done using this on a few client projects so I have more to say now.
Watch this space!
PS. Thanks for the comment!
@@bytomw Absolutely, yeah. Just noticed you're based in Manchester too. I'm over near Leigh; work at MMU
🙂👍
Small world! Nice to see more northern photographers!
Fantastic video; what other Fuji lenses you like using? know the XF33mm is expentionally good. I wonder if there are other lenses you feel the same about.
I have also been using the 18mm and 23mm 1.4 LM lenses and the 56mm 1.2.
They are all stellar performers. Nice modern optics with lots of character in the background blur.
This video is absolutely excellent thank Tom!
Thanks Dave! I wanted to do a deep dive ASAP but had to wait on a replacement. I hope it helps!
Could you do a comparison of there performance in lower light indoor situations?
Can do! I had a lot of wedding photographers asking about that specifically.
some h2 and h2s users are complaining that although the camera seems to be focusing on the screen the pictures are out of focus on the computer monitor especially for moving subjects
I can say that’s not the case for me.
I’m using the latest lenses though so that might not be true with some of the classic primes.
Great review and presentation!! I currently use a Sony a6400 with Tamron 17-70, Sony 70-350 and Samyang 12mm. I have been considering going with the Fuji system for a while now. Now that Tamron released a 17-70 for xMount, I’m even closer to making the switch. What were you saying about frame io and work flow? Just curious because I’ve heard that Fuji doesn’t play that well with Lightroom. Thoughts?
Lightroom doesn’t sharpen Fuji files correctly but honestly aside from that I love it for editing Fuji images.
The workflow I mentioned uses a special grip that’s only available for the XH2 and XH2s
Quality video mate, I am a Fujifilm XT2 shooter (mostly photography) but have been on the mission to do a bit more video work. Of course, everyone under the sun recommends Canon, especially the R5, however, the angle you mention of the color reproduction is a huge benefit that I've admittedly taken for granted. The big drawback for me and almost making the leap towards Canon was simply put the shooting success rate. Maybe a topic for a video? Seeing how many shots are usable in sharpness using the correct eye for sharpness (the eye closest to camera). Anyways, I've seem to have ranted a bit but I am now looking to see if the XH2 or the XH2S is best for my needs. Final thought, let's not kid ourselves, if Canon dropped its prices to Fujifilm levels, we would all bail on Fuji. Change my mind! :)
Canon RP + RF 1.8 lenses? 😅
I has the R5 as well as the R6 along with a full range or RF lenses… and I still went Fuji. It’s not about price it’s about understanding the tool you enjoy and how to get the best out of it.
The XH2s is also the same price as the R6ii in the UK (although canon has no affordable midrange lenses at all)
I just shot a couple’s shoot and I got the green light to edit it live. So if you want to see the hit rate on the new crop of Fujis feel free to watch!
It’s not all that fair to compare an XT2 to the modern canon mirrorless, not only is the XT2 3 generations older than the canons the price point was significantly lower and mirror less AF in general hadn’t reached the level we have seen since the launch of the Sony A9 and A7iii.
All that said these are all tools for a purpose. If you want maximum colour separation and pleasantness the Fuji is a winner, but the canon is amazing too if your happy with an overall warmer tone to your images, I have to make a tonne of HSL adjustments for the canon to get to where I like it but it could be perfect for you out of the box.
Choice is amazing.
@@bytomw the glass comparisons interest me. Fuji glass seems expensive compared to the RF f1.8 and f2 lenses ?
The Fuji is more expensive than cheap RF lenses because the construction of the lenses and the glass quality is better better. The Fuji LM lenses especially have exceptional colour reproduction and character.
The canon L lenses are sharper but by every other metric the Fuji lenses are nicer to my eye than the canon RF.
If I was going to switch from cannon what lenses would you suggest to get? I would like to do portrait, product and street photography. :) any help would be really appreciated
I’d say watch the video I posted about the firmware in these cameras because at the moment they don’t focus properly and I can’t recommend them anymore.
But I’d you watch that and still want to make the jump my advice would be to start with the LM primes. The 18mm, 23mm, 33mm 1.4 and the 56mm 1.2 WR are wonderful. If you only have budget for one I’d get the 23mm. It’s a great all around lens. If you have two go for a pair of the 18mm 1.4 and 33mm 1.4 or 23mm 1.4 and 56mm 1.2 WR depending on your preferred focal lengths.
Hi Tom. Which one of these three would you recomend for real estate photo a d video? R6ii. Fuji xh2s or Lumix S5iix? Thanks!❤
You’d likely enjoy the canon most for stills but the Fuji has much better dynamic range for video. (Capturing details in highlights is much easier).
Right now I’d have to say avoid the Fuji because there are issues with the autofocus but if you’re happy manually focusing interiors the XH2s is amazing.
I don’t have hands on experience with the Panasonic.
@@bytomw Thank you for the reply Tom!
for video never ever dont pick fuji
Wow! Great article and awesome video. Thanks for time and efforts. I have been thinking to go back Canon at these days. After shooting weddings for 11 years with Canon I moved to Fuji 3 years ago. It has just started with the magical X100 series which I bought for a 3rd or a personal daily camera.
I didn't shoot so many weddings at the pandemic and I really had issues with the Fujifilm cameras at these weddings. I had X-pro3 and XT-4 lately. Their AF systems are really not on the way I am looking for. ISO performances are really terrible when you compare even old Canon 5D Mark iv. The main reason I switched to Fuji was compactness. I had pains in my hands, back after more than 12 hour weddings with those stone heavy Canon 5Ds and lenses.
I bought the new XH2-S when it first realized. I have had chance to shoot with in few weddings. The AF system really works very well. I don't know it is superior to Canon or Sony but it least it is a new era for FujiFilm systems. The ISO performance is still not show any progress! I really want to shoot at 6400 without any hesitation, but it is not still possible. The other important issue is the lack of back light shooting. The dynamic range does not allow your creativty. I shoot a wedding yesterday and it is really hard to focus on back light conditions and dynamic range is not on the page I am looking for. I am also a cof user. I uses two flashes in the corner as a backlight on the dance floor and one with me as a fill flash. The Canon 5D mark iv never failed in that kind of situations when I tried to add these lights as backlight without curtaining them.
I haven't come up any videos about back light problems in Fuji. I think it hasn't been someones major problem.
Your video makes me really thing.I am certain about going back to Canon before watching your video. I have XT-4, X-Pro3, X-H2S, (just sold my lovely X-100V), 18 f1.4, 23 f2, 35 f2, 56 f1.2 and 10-24 f4. It won't be easy to sell the whole system. By the way, I shoot 90% with 18 f1.4 and x-h2s and I am super happy with that focal length after shooting 35mm equivalent all time.
I am not sure for going back right now but I need to shoot a whole wedding with r6 first I guess. The other thing I am pretty sure is getting rid of X-Pro3 and X-T4 immediately. After getting used to the X-h2s AF system you can not shoot with these two again.
I can see the appeal. The R6 is very clean up to iso 3200 and still clean at iso 6400 that said I add grain to most of my images on export and the way that the noise in my Fuji images presents looks really pleasing to my eye.
I have had fewer focus issues with the Fuji than the canon and I haven’t experienced any of the dynamic range issues you mentioned with it, but as always a camera is a tool and if you want something different that’s totally fine.
I will say that size and weight will still be a problem on canon. The bodies are heavier than Fuji but the real issue is the weight and size of the lenses. I shot a wedding with the R5 and 50mm 1.2 and a guest asked me if it was a 70-200 I was using.
Hope you enjoy experimenting with the canon kit though!
Bokeh looks a little different from full frame to the Fuji sensor? I love my Fuji x100v which makes me interested in switching yet not sure I want to move from the full frame sensor of the rp and r6
That’s absolutely true.
The 33mm 1.4 has a less pronounced background blur than the the 50mm 1.2.
But aside from that one and 1/3 stop difference in depth of field the Fuji is better in every other way (at least for my taste)
How do you like the auto focus
I’d see my later video on this channel. TLDW - Fujifilm broke its tracking with a firmware update you can’t roll back and haven’t yet fixed it.
If you haven’t tried the Fuji 14mm 2.8 I definitely recommend giving it a go. Just picked up one used ..and while I’m horrible at WA it’s been a blast!
When I shot canon I used a 16mm 2.8 a lot and honestly it felt far too wide to me! I really love the 18mm 1.4 though!
@@bytomw I kind of agree with you regarding my Samyang 12mm. It is a very specific lens with a very specific purpose.
Great video!, How was testing done via video/photo? Did you have noise reduction set to -4 on both video and photo?
Id love to see a rundown of your camera settings.
I shoot in RAW for photo so the noise reduction settings don’t come into play.
This is the performance you can expect from the camera shooting in raw with DR400 enabled.
The video side I have the noise reduction set to it’s lowest setting but honestly my other video on grading Flog2 gives you a better look at my process for video.
@@bytomw thank you! Just a heads up the noise reduction affects the raws unfortunately haha. Theres video's out on it like a few months ago. Xing Liu has a video if you search it for a Fuji setting you should turn off!!
Thank you
Here's the video!
th-cam.com/video/9652PVOJfBE/w-d-xo.html
That video only shows JPEGs from the camera. In the comments he also confirms this only affects JPEGs.
@@bytomw I'm not sure how much more I gotta send but here's another to pursuade you bahah.
I promise. They do affect the RAWs.
th-cam.com/video/uyDnNfklGM4/w-d-xo.html
That one’s pretty conclusive! I’ll give it a go with it reduced and see how I get on!
Weirdly in that example there isn’t much in the way of actual noise reduction it just seems to reduce contrast and smear details.
Super weird.
I know for a fact that other features on the Fuji happen before storing a raw. DR400 being one (I have that on almost all the time because I prefer the way it renders highlights)
you were very eloquent in your findings and i think we all appreciate that. but it's very clear and apparent which camera you prefer. You don't have a problem pointing out what you don't like about the Canon, but you're busy defending all of Fuji's shortcomings. very nice pics so i'll take away what i can from the pics but the words, i'll take with a grain of salt. thank you very much!
It’s funny I have had people comment that I was defending the canon too much and people say that I didn’t defend it enough.
I clearly prefer the Fuji (it’s what I ended up buying). But you wouldn’t be unhappy with either camera and I hope that’s clear from the video 👍🏻
Hi did you say your presets were archetype?
They are!
Super interesting insight Tom, thanks for the info. 👍🏼
Ps. What we’re the film profiles you were using, they look 👌🏼
Hey Rob, they are made by the archetype process.
Would a comparison of profiles be helpful?
This was a great video. I want to use this fuji system but since using the 28-70 f2 on my r5 for over a year, I am not sure if I can ever go back to shooting with primes at a wedding. I have used the GFX with voight 58 for several years and absolutely LOVE the colors and skin tones, and it is frustrating to match it to the canon for sure. I just wish fuji had a mid range zoom 2.8 or wider option similar for this camera. :(
Honestly I just want sigma to make their 1.8 zooms for fujimount. That would solve a lot of “problems” with the zoom lenses combated to full frame.
Great video. Your observations on colour science are much more detailed than on other channels. It would be excellent if you could do a video purely on this.
Happy to do it. I teach professional photographers about colour and how to get the results they want from their own work so it would make sense to touch on some of those subjects on the channel!
Do you think the XH2s is good in low light scenarios? (As compared to competitors, R6, A7 series, etc)
It’s not. The R6 especially has one of the cleanest sensors that I have ever used. The X-H2s needs work to get the image as clean even at low ISOs.
It shoot my X-H2s at 640 all the time (with DR400 on) and I choose to run AI denoise on every final image in Lightroom.
@@bytomw do you mean 640 iso bad on x-h2s?
All ISOs have more noise than the R6.
@@bytomw Can you upload sample raw photos?
Have you tried the XF 50mm f1? It’s an excellent lens that will give you that full frame look in spades.
I haven’t yet. Mainly because I typically favour normal focal lengths (35-50mm) for stills but honestly I’d be all over it if they launched a 33mm F1!
I’m also considering a GFX for the times I’d want that shallower depth of field look.
Hey Tom, love your video! You should have waaay more subscribers! Anyway, you just got one more, love how you explain! I was looking to upgrade my t3i, and Fuji came to my mind, was looking into the EOS R (used) or the new R7, but definitely the lens options for Canon APS-C turns me down a little, also because if you third party lenses you need the adapter, and the whole thing can get way to big sometime, like with the Sigma 18-35 1.8! Anyway, I'm looking forward to see more of your content! Keep going strong
Thanks for the kind words!
Honestly if you’re worried about the EF to RF adapter on canon I really wouldn’t. It’s rock solid and has absolutely no negative effect on image quality. I also absolutely loved my EOS R. It’s focusing system isn’t as advanced as either of these options sadly though.
If I was on a budget and looking at Fuji I’d be taking a long and hard look at the XT5.
@bytomw You're welcome!
Sorry, I think I didn't make my self clear, I'm worried about the size of the camera + adp + lens, it can't get very big sometimes, and then you lose the benefits of an APS-C camera, since you don't have third party lenses with the RF mount, like Fuji have so many compact options already, with hight quality.
But is always a hard decision to make hehee thanks for the response Tom! Have a nice week
The only way to retain the color profiles baked in the rafs on fuji is to use capture one
Sort of, there is a bunch of the settings in the Fuji that do get backed into the RAW files. The DR400 DR200 DR100 settings for example are all applied before storing the data.
BUT C1 does to a better job with fuji raws and they collaborated to add the film emulations into the processing options in C1
Tom, do you find yourself (on Canon and on Fuji images) making a lot of adjustments in the Tone Curve panel?
Honestly I try never to touch the tone curve. It’s really hard to make adjustments that can be changed image to image so for me it’s very much a case of only using it if I can’t make the adjustment by another method.
The same goes for the colour grading panel.
That said curves are a powerful tool.
@@bytomw Okay, that makes sense. I keep rewatching this (may or may not have added the XH2-S to my BH cart, ha!).
Honestly I think you’ll like it!
Especially if you have a GFX this feels like a great compliment for the times the GFX is too slow.
@@bytomw Agreed. May use this off-season to test it out!
This is so helpful; thank you, Tom!
Anytime Abigail! More to come for sure.
Hi Tom, really appreciate the video. I want to start photography again.. sold my Canon 5d mark II and ef lenses couple of years ago. So I start from scratch and as munch I love Canon camera and interface the price and choice of lenses make me steer to Fuji H2s. The 18mm and 33mm together looks great quality.. will do the job for me and at a reasonable cost.
That’s really cool to hear! It’s always great to see someone jumping back into their creative process.
That’s basically all I’m using right now. I have (but don’t use) the 56mm 1.2 as well but the 18mm and 33mm cover 85% of what I need.
If you’re only taking photos id be tempted to check out the new XT5 that launched around the time this video dropped.
It’s a really lovely form factor and I’m seeing some absolutely stunning colours from that camera too!
I know this video came out before. But if you love the bokeh. The 75 1.2 from Viltrox is absolutely fantastic and sharp. And extremely affordable for the quality you pay.
Viltrox are making a bunch of cool stuff now! They just launched a 40mm 1.8 equivalent too!
How about the r6 mark ii ?
When I made the video the R6ii wasn’t available.
I have recommended the R6ii to students but don’t feel tempted to jump back.
This was a good breakdown! I was, at one point, considering going back to Canon but I honestly love my Fuji gear not to mention the cost of going back. The vast majority of the Fuji lenses are solid too, even their "kit" lens is really good. Two of my personal favorites are 23mm f2 and 56mm f1.2, I use both for portraits and street work. I'd love to get your thoughts on the 56mm.
Even just the image on the back of the camera seems outstanding from this lens. I’m pretty impressed so far.
The 18mm 1.4 is also stellar.
I love almost all the lenses are WR.
That's a massive bonus for sure! I shoot in the rain far too often to use lenses that aren't sealed.
Canon top tier camera bodies & lenses are cost prohibitive for many people. I left Canon after 40 years of using their products- from the film era (Canon F1) camera to a digital camera(5dsr). Not to mention many Canon “L” lenses. Sold all of my Canon gear & moved to Fuji. IMHO, Fuji camera s & lenses offer tremendous value for their price point.
First of all, I Love the video and I am now looking into buying this camera as my first Fuji camera so I THANK YOU KINDLY my friend. 🙏
However, maybe I missed something within the video but I'm not understanding why did you compare 2 cameras but used different lenses that have different apertures? Do you think that is a "fair" comparison?
You have already given a heads up to Canon (sharpness & bokeh) using the faster glass. 🤔
Honestly I think this has been my most common comment on the test. I’m comparing the best the systems have to offer at my preferred focal length (90% of my work is on a 50mm equivalent lens).
Fairness isn’t the objective, I’m aiming to understand what the maximum quality I can expect is.
I use these cameras for work so the initial cost of the system matters less to me than some (although it’s still important for sure).
I’d recommend watching my follow up video on the AF issues with the current gen Fuji cameras.
The short version is that Fuji ruined the AF tracking modes in firmware and I actually had to move back to canon (more on that coming soon).
That is very interesting because I am trying to leave Canon and you are going back to them. Is it because of the Auto Focusing? I see that only Sony and Canon seem to have that right. Everyone else is a deer in headlights and still taking people's money without having solid product. @@bytomw
Great video mate! Thank you!
Anytime! I’m glad you enjoyed it!
It all depends on someone's needs. Both cameras are great, however after spending some time with both, I can tell you if you want great autofocus and ease of use- go Canon and do not be scared of an expansive R lans. Just mount on adapter and use many available affordable canon lens. If you are after colours and ethtetics- take Fuji route.
You're right, I actually made a followup video on this topic because fujifilm actually broke their AF system by trying to improve the tracking system.
In short, it's the best tracking on the planet now... but the lens can't keep up so you get a lot of false posetives in terms of focus.
I fully recommend canon over fujifilm's X-Series now. The X100VI included.
Great explanations as usual!
Thanks Francisco, I'm glad you enjoyed it!
I’m never really into looking at portraits of men, but your video kept me glued to the screen for its entirety.
Great content too!
With the Canons, I have an EOS R, I also find more color noise, plus the ISO invariance is rather lacking.
I'm glad you enjoyed the video, for what it's worth I think the EOS-R's sensor is one of canons best. Not from a technical standpoint (everything you said is right) but I just like the way the image looks right out of the box, no tweaking like I had to do here on the R6 and the R5 I also owned.
@@bytomw agree actually, it is why I still have not moved away from my R to the R5 or R6. I am very confused with Canon’s strategy for mirrorless, and with the rejection of 3rd party lens for the near future, I am looking to return to Fuji 100%
Interesting video 😳. Have you considered the XH2 or the XT5?
I have considered both! The XH2 was a strong contender for me but in the end the better video performance of the XH2s swung me.
I also really love the way this sensor looks!
That said I’m keen to try an XT5 and the GFX options.
I have used a GFX 50s in the past and loved every moment of it!
@@bytomw that's great to hear! I love my xh2s. I watch a lot of @iamtongue 's videos and he loves both the xh2s and xh2 especially for photography
I have a Fuji GFX50R and the X-H1 and I am annoyed at 2 things: focus which it often misses and low-light noise. Both cameras have the same issue so not related to crop sensor. I wish you had compared that too because that is a drawback of the Fuji system.
I made a second video about the issue I had with the fujis focus system. It doesn’t get as much traction as this one.
The tracking AF was so unreliable I moved back to canon.
I don’t use My GFX at all with AF though. Manual focus only
There is a Fuji 50mm f1 right? That would give 1.5 DOF in FF terms.
That’s true but at a 75mm focal length.
You’re 100% correct on the F stop equivalence but I was trying to compare “normal” focal lengths.
Having used them both I really enjoy the depth I’m getting even from the 1.4 lenses on the Fuji system.
For video Canon or Fuji?
It depends on what you need, if you want focus tracking that's foolproof and full frame aesthetics it's the canon.
That said I think Flog2 looks better than Clog3.
I never shoot a portrait, even at 85 mm FF equiv., at less than f4, because of the thin depth of field making the eyes, nose and ears look weird, as they all can’t be in decent focus at once at f < 4 approx. on top of that, the Fuji 50-140 f2.8 is freaking amazing!
That's awesome. Honestly If I shot like that I'd have moved over to fuji years ago! So many amazing lenses that allow you to get that look.
Personally I prefer the medium format film vibe. Normal lenses with a depth of field between 1.0-2.0 normally around 1.4. It's difficult to nail the focus up close but perfect for full body portraits.
Having owned Fujifilm for years I have given up and moved the other way to Canon. I haven't used the new XH2 or S but had the XT4 with a bunch of the new 1.4 primes and the high ISO and lack of confidence in autofocus frustrated me for my wedding work. Been using a Canon EOS R and a R6 and they are vastly superior, even with the 1.8 lenses I am seeing much better results than I had with the Fuji. I think that you can get the job done with Fujifilm but the time you have with it won't be as smooth sailing as with the Canon. Plus the editing in LR is much better with the Canon files too. Fujifilm is ok for comfortable enthusiast photography but at the price point they are at you can get much better performance elsewhere for pro work. Still a long way for them to go in my opinion to compete with Sony and Canon.
I have been going back and forth on the Fuji system since they launched the X-Pro1 I often had a 2nd camera that was fujifilm but they where never my main system.
This is the generation that they cracked everything I cared about. We didn’t touch on it in this video but the AF is like glue now.
Also I’m a hybrid photographer and this camera is INCREDIBLE for video. It’s the perfect camera for multi format video.
Fuji changed a lot since Fujifilm X-H2S and new 1.4 WR primes lenses . Autofocus yes , still behind Canon and Sony but there are many areas Fuji outperforms both Canon and Sony , X-T4 was just a decent camera , but X-H2S , X-H2 and XT-5 are amazing . They are as good as or even better than any of the competitor from Canon and Fuji
@@neethuandthomasphotography I have since bought a Fujifilm X-T5 and returned it as it really wasn't as good as my canon gear for what I do, autofocus seemed to be great until I got home and realised it still missed alot of shots and high ISO performance is much weaker than the competition which I need for my work. It's all about tools to fit what you do and as nice a camera it is the XT5 just isn't good enough for what I need and I can get better elsewhere for a similar price. Sometimes cameras work for us sometimes they don't that's just the nature of gear.
@@alexsteiner7544 X-H2 is better than X-T5 in pretty much everything and X-T5 is a big upgrade from X-T4 and we all know nothing can beat Canon when it comes to autofocus..
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Canon full fame lenses with good specs are so unaffordable that it is a no brainer to get the fujifilm.
I tend to agree but for me this is a work investment, the Canon lenses I had paid for themselves many times over while I owned them but for someone that isn't making their main income for photography I don't really know why you'd want to spend the money on lenses.
@@bytomw Exactly.
Great video comparing two amazing lenses. One aspect I think you missed that’s worth noting is the size/weight difference between the RF50 f1.2 and XF33 f1.4. If you’re looking for a smaller/lighter kit, then the Canon is not your ticket. I’m fortunate to own both lenses. I have an R6 and the shots that come from that RF50 f1.2 are just incredible. That lens is so razor sharp that it makes that 20mp sensor outshine and rival some 30mp sensors. I don’t know how it does it, but it’s amazing. I also own a Fuji X-T2 that I’ve never been able to bring myself to part with because it is such a great little camera, and I picked up the 33mm for it. Now that is a travel friendly kit that goes everywhere with me. It’s my family shoots, holidays, parties, etc … camera, but whenever I want that extra image quality-that top shelf tier quality, then I’m taking the R6 with the Rf50 1.2 beast. Both kits will produce beautiful pictures regardless.
You're right, I pretty much only talked about the IQ in some of the most typical situations I shoot in, I'll absolutely be expanding and covering other areas like performance, form factor etc in other videos.
You're pretty much dead on with you conclusions though, they are both amazing lenses. The 33mm may not perform as well technically as the RF lens I love the results. They have a character I don't see in the RF 1.2. You nailed it about the detail on lower resolution sensors too. I used the 1.2 on the EOS-R and R5 and it looked just as sharp on those bodies as the R6. It's outstanding.
Why not compare the Canon R62? No mention of shooting in low light?
Great question!
At the time of recording the R6 II wasn't available, I owned the R6 from launch so I compared what I had to what I was contemplating a move to. To add thoughts on the R6ii though it looks great! the still IQ seems to be nearly identical to the R6 from what I can tell, it does fix some of my complaints around video overheating though!
No mention of low light largely because I'm a commercial/corporate photographer primarily and the camera was pristine up to ISO 3200, as such it wasn't an issue for my use case.
I typically shoot it at ISO 640 with the extended dynamic range settings on (DR400) so I'm shooting it in it's most noise prone settings and the camera has still been exemplary.
the R6 has less visible noise at all ISOs but I still prefer the look of the XH2s.
I have some other image examples prepped to show the noise levels on the XH2s but haven't had a chance to make a full video on the subject yet.
Having a XT4 right now. will still get a canon! perfect combo i think.
Glad that this helped you make up your mind! The wonderful thing about this art form is that we all get to take a different path 👌🏻
How about low light?
I’d say the Fuji has bigger problems, I’d watch the follow up video I made on the Fuji AF system.
Will do, thank you
If the R6 MK II had been available earlier, how might that have affected your choice?
I actually sold my Canon gear the day after it was announced.
It didn’t change anything. It felt like they wanted to sell me an upgrade that feels more like a firmware fix than a real upgrade in performance.
I also don’t like the way canon are currently treating 3rd part optics.
All that said I can see why if your about to invest the R6II is compelling.
I have been working with my Sony a7rlll the last four years , came from canon 6d, and wow the autofocus was amazing, but honestly I always felt it was a bit to good for me, like I was not fully connected to the process, might sound weird but I believe it’s like driving a manual Vs automatic car, it’s just very different experience. Also coming from canon to Sony, the colors where horrible and the system was just overwhelming, too much functions. I just got the Fuji xt 5 and I’m exited to try it out. Im a bit worried about going down from full frame and loosing the dept of field but me and Sony just don’t work so I have yo try ❤
The colour on the Fujis is wonderful and the lens design is fantastic, the only issue I would see is the tracking AF problems I detailed in my later video.
Love this brother
I appreciate you! Thanks for the kind words.
Bought a X-T5 (af issues) and a HS2 (with a lens mount problem out of the box) got a refund (I just asked for a store credit) ... sold my existing 8 fujinon lenses, went simple with a Canon R6II, RF lenses 14-35, 24-105, 70-200 and honestly couldn't be happier. Files are beautiful, high ISO is amazing, AF is fantastic, eye detect is incredible, app is easy. My transition back to Canon has been a great experience, the RF 'L" lenses are the best. Just my experience.
You’re gonna like my next video I think ;)
look forward to it @@bytomw
No mention of the 50mm F1.0 from Fuji while you keep saying fujifilm can’t give the same portrait bokeh…
The 50mm F1.0 is a 75mm F1.5 equivalent. You could get the same depth of field from an 85mm 1.8 that’s smaller lighter and focuses more accurately than the Fujinon.
I don’t enjoy shooting short tele lenses as much as normal/wide lenses but if that’s your thing that’s cool.
If you discount the focal length of a lens and just want to look at depth of field alone Fuji also make a 200mm F2.0 you might want to try.
You need to run your Fuji files throughAI denoise or just enhance detail in LrC to have them be demosaiced properly. That said... I hate oversharpening and 40 in LrC is too sharp no matter the brand.
Oh and the 50mm F1.2 photos look way better. They have that airiness and highlight handling that only FF/MF can achieve.
I agree, I normally set sharpening to 0 in Lr for most of my canon files. The 50mm 1.2 RF especially is bonkers when it comes to detail and needs softening in many situations not sharpening.
Woulld be good to see it with the H2 , perhaps you can use comparable lenses .. the 50 1.2 is a totally different game .. I have the EF version and its a cheat code of a lens ;) I've used it with Canon and now with the FUJI H2 .. awesome
The EF 50mm 1.2 is an absolute Gem at the current used prices. Highly recommend that to anyone.
@@bytomw do you have a comparison with 56mm and some canon glass too ?
very good video
Thank you. I wish fujifilm had left the XH2s alone but they actually ruined the Autofocus tracking in firmware.
Very nice content. However if you are now a fujifilm user you need to switch to capture one where the sharpening becomes on par with Canon
Subscribed as well
You’re absolutely right about the sharpness.
I have been a beta tester for Capture One Styles and ICC profiles for a few different companies and used both C1 and Lightroom for professional work.
Sharpness issues aside I still prefer Lightroom as an editing platform and for many working photographers this is their main choice.
I wanted to show someone what the average photographer would experience when comparing the two.
@@bytomw job well done 😊
Thanks Man!
Hi why didn't u considered XH2
I shoot commercial stills and video (almost 50/50) and honestly most of my clients complain if I deliver files over a certain size.
Almost everything is web resolution only. So for me the XH2 made less sense than the XH2s.
That said I’m not against grabbing an XH2 or XT5 for high resolution stills. 👍🏻
If I was stills only I’d take either I think.
I agree its not as smooth sailing with fujifilm over canon(lowlight, autofocus)the problem is canon still does not have a 35mm 1.4 and this is just not normal in 2023.You can shoot a full wedding with a X-H2S with a 23mm 1.4 a 33mm 1.4 and a 56mm 1.2..one camera with 3 prime lenses will cost you $5000 for the same price as a Canon r5 and a 50mm 1.2.COSTING $5000.This is why I always recommend people go with fujifilm unless you have lots of money and don't need a 35mm lolol.
That's a fair point, the price difference is substantial. I don't ever feel like a Fujifilm Lens investment is going t break the bank.
That said right now I cannot get the fuji system to focus reliably and I might end up having to re-buy at least one of those Canons.
Hey nice video there. Currently if money no issue would you recommend picking XH2s over Xh2. I only do pictures not video.
If money was no object at all and you want a Fuji I’d go for a GFX system. Especially if you only shoot stills.
That said the XH2 and XT5 are great cameras. I prefer the colours from the XH2s but honestly if you weren’t comparing side by side I think the XT5 and XH2 are both solid options.
Canon R6 + adapter. It is that simple. If you shoot a lot - you gotta buy a good gear. Fuji is a niche camera manufacturer, they're not competing to win the prosumers market share.
I'm not sure what this is in reference to in the context of this video but I'd argue that Fujifilm sells the definitive prosumer range of cameras in the X100V. I'd say both of these bodies are aimed at Working Pros and Advanced amateurs equally.
I still stand by my statements about the image quality, although the Fujifilm proved to be far less reliable after the 3.0 firmware was released and I moved back to canon (I made a follow up video).
Lightroom is the problem mate. Try capture one, it's a night and day difference for detail and sharpness for Fuji. It's really criminal how dirty adobe does Fuji.
I have used both. It’s not appreciably different on export 👍🏻 it looks better in C1 while you edit though.
XH2s spanks event the Sony A7IV in features and quality, R6 is a toy in comparison but the canon having that autofocus makes it better and I hate my Fujifilm for that, it's simply not a reliable autofocus system for video
You're not wrong.
Lightroom is not a good editing process for Fuji files. You should’ve use capture one that is a much better platform to give you greater results. This is still not fair because Canon works great in light Room ..
Fuji does not work as Great
I have and use both C1 and Lightroom, despite the sharpness issue I still prefer the results from Lightroom for colour and contrast 👍
Also Lightroom is the dominant platform and for many professionals it’s not always reasonable to expect anyone to change software when they change system.
But as I said. I have and use both.
You must be doing something wrong because there is definitely a difference between the two editing software and the way they process the raw files & Lightroom is definitely.. not the way to go with the Fuji file.. if you are looking for the best results when it comes to sharpening capture one or iridium is the way to go
You're entitled to your opinion.
That said I teach Lightroom and Capture One and I have been a beta tester for colour styles and ICC Profiles in C1 and Presets and Profiles in Lightroom. It's not a lack of understanding that formed my opinion, quite the opposite.
I didn't say there was no difference between the two. I expressly said there were differences in both colour rendition and contrast. I also didn't say Capture One had bad colour or contrast, it absolutely doesn't.
I said I prefer the results from Lightroom even though the sharpening panel doesn't work as intended with X-Trans files.
There is more to an image than sharpness.
I’m not a professional photographer so this analysis of differences would not be enough to switch to Fuji if I already have the Canon setup.
Absolutely. These are details they matter more if your spending hours editing the files.
I will say though it’s a totally different story if you ever shoot video.
The XH2s is possibly the best video camera I have used… and it happens to perform this well for stills at the same time!
Strong background music made this unwatchable for me after 4 minutes. Try 80% lower volume than what you had or even better don't edit with music over talking parts.
That’s exactly what I did 👍🏻 later videos don’t have an underscore.
But that Canon Lens is a $2,000 lens that weighs over 2lbs (.9Kg). Of course it will be lovely.
Absolutely. That’s exactly what I was getting at.
I compared the Fuji to the RF 50mm 1.8 also later in the video. But they had the opposite problem of being a really affordable lens. Right now there is no mid priced 50mm offer from canon.
That said if you’re a working pro and you buy the best each system has to offer this is what you can expect.
Canons biggest problem (easy) is the fact that they won't allow other companies like Sigma to produce RF lenses for their cameras. So you will have to spend big time, or settle for older lenses.
I fully agree. I want the modern sigma art lenses on RF mount for sure.
The 35mm 1.2 Sigma is a bit of a gem.
Their is a 1.0 fuji lens I think no one needs more blurry background ;)
That’s true, I just wish it was a wider focal length.
The 50mm F1 is a 75mm 1.5 equivalent lens. My go to is typically around a 35-50mm F1.4
@@bytomw But do you really need such a depth of field ? I am an APS-C shooter so I don’t know. Do you get the whole face of a person in focus when using a 35-50 f1.4 on full frame and the person stands in a slight angle to the camera ?
Need is a strange thing, I personally shoot that wide open for the character of the lens more than for the depth of field with one exception. Full body portraits. A 50mm 1.2-1.4 will make a subject pop when shooting farther away from the subject.
I thought I needed that, I'm not sure I do anymore the fuji 33mm 1.4 looks fantastic when you shoot that wide open in the same situation.
As a direct answer to your question it depends on the distance. If you shoot a person at the minimum focus distance of the lens absolutely not. You'll have to choose what features you want to have critically sharp... and that's a good or a bad thing depending on your taste.