1 Year Ago I Switched from Fuji to Sony - Here's what I've Learned
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00:00 Intro
00:26 My Camera History / Reasons to "Upgrade"
03:19 Good and Bad about Fuji
5:44 Expectations for Sony
07:00 Reality
09:08 What is missing
13:00 Conclusion
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I’m not sure I have ever seen such an honest appraisal of two camera systems or of one’s self. Terrific. All the best.
Real photographers don't care much, they just take photo's!
@@cirrus1964In my experience, the photographers we all celebrate and agree are real photographers care deeply about what they used. They are the people who bumped up against a cameras limitations and demanded more, and as they had a voice, camera manufacturers listened and designed to their specifications. They are hugely demanding as to what their camera can do - and have the sponsorships to not have to pay for it themselves.
I go back to the years of a single 50mm prime lens, rolls of b&w film stuffed in my pockets, and developing our own film back in the dark room at the newspaper. "Content" is what mattered. Period. Most of my published shots were slightly out of focus, a little grainy, and exposed close to correct using that little red meter in the viewfinder. But, I got a lot of pictures in the newspaper: quite a few on the front page. A number of those far from perfect pictures framed and hung on the walls of the newspaper office as chosen by the editors. I was fortunate to capture nice "Content". Lots of back stage images, locker room images, and dressing room images where access was denied to the public eye and therefore interest was high for these coveted looks behind the curtain and behind closed doors. And some street shots that covered important current events. I share all of this to make the point that the entire focus of photography has been hijacked by the manufacturers through massive marketing efforts. Everyone is focused on MB, pixels, lens distortion, AF, and a whole list of other over-the-top features that truly have nothing to do with "Content". The camera is not identifying interesting subjects to capture. Whether you own Canon, Sony, Nikon, Fuji, Leica, and so on is irrelevant. Look through books of the older masters and you quickly see that "Content" fills the pages of those books. In many cases, the image quality is adequate at best, yet you remain riveted to the page because of how they captured the image.
agree 100 percent
You absolutely nailed it. How were the "Old Masters" with their inferior analog cameras and lenses able to take such stunning and legendary pictures? "Gearheads", who are longing for the best possible equipment are not really into photography....they are into "gear fetish". I use my PENTAX Spotmatic on a daily basis, for studio work I use this insanely "old fashioned" Nikon D700. It still works very well!
You are spot on with your "gear fetish" attribute. That's a perfect analogy. The exact same scenario is and has been happening with stereo equipment for years. You have people spending in the $100's and some spending in the $1000's on speaker wire. You have people claiming to be able to hear differences in the output of DAC's, tonearms on turntables, different CD players, and the overall improvement of the sound of an amplifier or other component with the use of an amp stand, a suspension shelving system and/or a weight placed on the top of the unit to dampen vibration. People are spending $100's on miniature stands to elevate their speaker wire off the floor as the electrons travel to the speaker. Now I am seeing over-the-top discussions debating the sound of different versions of the same album. People are dissecting the difference in sound output of different tubes (with the same specs) placed in the same component. It's stunning just how successful marketing campaigns have become in both industries. My advice to anyone assembling a stereo is to spend 80% of your budget on the speakers. The sound produced by the drivers and the crossover inside the speaker is what your ears are ultimately hearing. If you are staying strictly digital with CD's and/or streaming as your source material, move the budget allocation to 90% for the speakers. From experience, I can say without hesitation that you can hear the difference between tube amplification and solid state amplification. The tube route is far more expensive to acquire a clean output. There's nearly an undetectable difference between a $150 CD player and a $5,000 CD player. There is nearly an undetectable difference between an integrated amplifier or separates (preamp + amp). Separates are quite a bit more expensive. There's nearly an undetectable difference between a $500 turntable and a $5,000 turntable. My wife and I have done all of these A/B comparisons, in depth, when we assembled a new stereo system not too many years ago. At any cost and using any system, the sound of an album will include some ticks, pops, crackles and hiss sooner than later, if not immediately, depending on the album itself. Albums do wear down, albeit slowly, if you have a very expensive cartridge. CD's offer a flawless sound unless the disc is physically damaged. I was born in 1960. I KNOW albums. I was there in the early 80's when CD's made their entrance. I KNOW CD's. In between, we listened to cassettes and 8-track tapes in our cars and our homes. Albums offer a wonderful tactile experience of holding the album, enjoying the artwork, enjoying the liner notes, placing the album on the turntable, manually cueing the songs with the tonearm, and displaying the albums on shelving if so desired. CD's offer crystal clear sound, the convenience of small storage requirements, and pennies on the dollar to build a collection online. The speakers produce the sound that you hear. The sound difference between the two sources is present (albums v. CD), but it has a lot more to do with the tactile difference between the two as described above. In fact, the more you spend on analog the more you reveal the flaws of the albums that you own. It's comparable to the elevated quality of a magnifying glass or a telescope except we're referring to sound not sight. Consider the sound you hear at a concert or a night club. It's not that good. The din is awful. The distractions are endless. However, you thoroughly enjoy it because of the overall listening experience: being there, seeing it played live, and just taking in the wonderful moment with other like minded fans of said performer(s). Ignore the marketing campaigns for both cameras and stereo equipment. Just pick out an album, a CD, or a streaming choice, press play and simply enjoy the music: spend your hard earned money elsewhere or save it and earn some interest. Study the old masters who shot all of their photographs with a simple 50mm lens, who used their legs to zoom in and out, and placed their entire decision process on Content.
@@TnapvrvideoYou’re correct when it comes to audiophiles, most of them are daft as a brush. I do disagree slightly with your last sentence. A great photographer can see the most mundane thing and take a great photograph of it. A woman in a hijab in Afghanistan becomes a national geographic cover because the photographer knows lighting well and can pick out her eyes perfectly. A cliff face becomes the most photographed beauty spot in America because one photographer understood that it looks best on one particular day of the year at an exact time on that day and returned seven years in a row until he got that shot. These are, with all due respect to that lady, boring photos in every other photographers hands. Great photographers don’t need exciting subjects to make us all sit up and take notice. Why are you out looking for a shark when the most celebrated photo of a fish ever taken was in the photographers back garden of their goldfish?
Nicely stated. All very good points. We're thinking the same. Your beautifully detailed descriptions of the woman on the cover shot, the cliff face, and the goldfish pond. Those celebrated shots were masterfully taken. That said, I still think "Content" (and the unstated story behind the image) is the true capture. Our subjective views aside, these amazing images had nothing to do with the camera brand, etc. which was truly the point of my post. I believe I know the image you are referring to of the woman on the cover with the blue eyes, and I am guessing an El Capitan or Half Dome shot by Ansel Adams. I don't know the fish image off hand. In your cited examples, the image was superbly shot by a highly gifted photographer. Someone who has insight, intuition, and skills to support their exceptional, creative eye furthering the point that the equipment does not instill these inherent skills into the owner. There's a B&W image by Dorothea Lange of a migrant women shot during the depression: one of a larger series. An image that you, no doubt, are quite familiar with given the depth of your post. That photo is stunning. It's not perfect with regards to clarity and focus. It might very well have ended up on a magazine cover though its content may have prompted censorship at the time; I don't know. All that aside, it tells a story. It reveals a devastating truth and a sad reality. It's a stunning capture requiring the level of skill you described in your examples. Since that image, and most likely before that image, there have been seemingly countless images of woman in all types of scenes, conveying all types of emotional feedback and viewer response. Yet, we have in our two posts identified two of the better known to date though some would argue there's a Marilyn Monroe shot worthy of this discussion or an image of Julia Childe or Amelia Earhart. You would identify the mastery of the photographer who took the image to a higher realm, and I would agree 100%. We'd both admire their demonstrated ability. Never in our discussion would we bother to mention the camera or the equipment used. I am not sure I would agree entirely that the subject isn't critically important in the overall appeal of an image. I think the subject (aka Content or Story) are the magnet pulling the viewer deeper into the photograph. If I were viewing a gallery exhibition and I came across two beautifully executed photographs of a fishing pier that were hanging side by side on the wall, one was simply set in the foreground of an empty seascape while the other had a rather tired, but actively used fishing boat tied to the pilings, I see myself investing more time and emotion viewing the image with the boat. Having a significant background in boating and fishing, I can imagine myself seeing things within that boat's image, its deck content, its equipment that would jolt a distant memory or prompt a flashback from my earlier lifetime. Afghanistan where I have not been, Yosemite where I actually have been and did climb Half Dome, Julia Childe who amazingly I did meet in her home at a photo shoot of her birthday party (I was the lowly equipment carrier), and the Depression which was before my time as were Monroe and Earhart are references to iconic, emotionally charged subjects which I feel advance their potential for long-term success as images when photographed well. I do truly feel that subject is the lasting ingredient. We'll all stop and admire a superbly executed image where lighting and everything else was done to perfection. I don't think it's the photograph we'll remember the longest without invested emotion and memory to keep it alive in our mind.
When you said "that the Difference in image quality and such will not make my photos any better or my video's any more interesting" you hit the nail on the head for most of us. There are pro's shooting with older gear getting really amazing photos and video. But here we all are, rationalize our new camera purchase. Let face the facts, the camera companies are in business to sell you a new camera ever couple of years. So if they can add newer features and options your 2 year old camera doesn't have to get you to jump, then they are successful at their job. Reason why so many TH-cam Photography/Videographer influencers are packing around $20k worth of gear, because camera companies give them the "New stuff" so it builds hype and they want you to want that new camera or lens.
You literally don't know what the heck you are talking about. Just another person ranting to justified making himself feel better about keeping his old cameras. Sony revolutionized the mirrorless cameras, something that Canon and Nikon didn't even considered until Mirrorless became super popular. Camera tech has to move forward, not backward. Sony is moving it forward with Canon and Nikon following. But it seems like you're the type who thinks all new cameras are just niches and offers nothing new or revolutionary. I'm glad you're not working in the R&D department. Better yet, stop using your smartphone and go back to using an old flip-phone.
These new cameras you're talking about were made by us, the users. We tell the companies what we want to see and how they can improve on it. They listened to us and implement the features in the next model thus giving us many reasons to upgrade. If we don't say anything or give any feedbacks, then I'm sure Canon, Nikon and Sony would be out of business by now.
Camera companies gives them new stuff to try out, not to keep dude. Reason why they do so is because they want to prove to the world that their products are amazing and revolutionary. I don't see you going out there and reviewing the newest lenses or cameras. But its easier for you to talk bias since you're just a bias photographer yourself. The more the merrier and majority of these companies back up their claims too. Can you do the same?
Otherwise, keep talking nonsense to justify keeping your old gears my friend.
@@harryvuemedia5106 Are you serious about it? We're talking about how camera gear upgrade translates into the perceivable improvement of your work while what you put down there was just a bootlick of tech company. I'm not saying all that is not worth it but it's still not the decisive factor at the end of day in your photography or videography skill.
Image quality has reached a point of diminishing returns. The investment in switching from one camera to another can't usually justify the upgrade. I have been an event photographer for 4 years and I'm still happy with the photos from my XH1 and Nikon Z6. The essence of photography lays behind the brain behind the camera not the camera itself. Photography is a form of art not fully quantifiable by means of tech. It matters to a certain point then it doesn't any more.
@@harryvuemedia5106 Just keep consuming. Don't think, just keep buying new stuff. What's that? 2 year old model doesn't have the new hardware? You need to chuck that thing into the garbage and take out a loan to buy the newly released camera! The newer and better technology, the better your photography will be, no more worries of finding a good composition or timing, don't let old tech hold you back!
@@jac1207 it did improved it dude. a7iii to a7iv is a massive jump, not a small one. A9ii to a9iii is another massive leap in photography. There are cameras like the a7riii to a7riv that wasn't a huge leap. But yes, let's hear it from you who have no work to show us. Let's see your work and prove me wrong. Show me everything you have and prove me wrong. My work is available, go watch it and tell me how my work didn't improve again. Otherwise, keep your opinion to yourself.
@@jac1207 Someone deleted my comment again. I guess they are so insecure that they have to delete it because they don't want people hearing the facts. What 2 year old models that new models dont have? A lot of things dude. A7iii to a7iv was a huge leap. A7iii doesn't have 10-bit colors so a7iv filled in that hole. a9ii has a rolling shutter while a9iii revolutionized the camera world again with its global shutter. Same thing with a7sii to a7siii and a7Riv to a7Rv. Show me your fudging work and stop hiding behind a fake account because of your insecurities. Talk so much sh*t but can't back it up besides spitting out gibberish.
Your side track was my favorite part of the review. Appreciate your in-depth explanations.
I sold my Sony a7IV with 24-70 f2.8, 16-35 f2.8, Tamron 70-180 f2.8, 85mm 1.4, 35mm f1.8 to Fuji used XT4 after watching your video, thanks man for motivating.
In retrospect ... how satisfied are you with the transition. Sony A7IV with such a set of lenses .. It must have been great
The biggest reason after much research and shopping that I bought my barely used X-t3 kit three years ago was performance for the price. I looked at all of the FF choices. They all cost more for just the body that what I paid for the X-T3 with the 18-55, a grip and extra batteries. And, it was still in the original box all still wrapped up like new. In addition, I have been able to afford high quality lenses like the xf56 f1.2(V1.0) and the xf90mm f2 on the used market. I got each for under $500 US and both in like new condition with some patient shopping and a bit of luck! The FF lenses are just way too expensive for me. Finally, as an amateur/enthusiast photographer, the X-T3 is still more than capable enough for me. And, it's a beast of a camera. I take it out on trail hiking all the time. Not sure if I'll be shopping again any time soon, but for now I'm very happy with the X-T3. Thanks for the overview of your experience!! Have a great day.
I agree with you on the Xt3 being using mine now for nearly two years, love the Fuji colors, and I really love the way the camera looks. But the only downside is auto focus! I miss some really great shots and at the same time hit some great ones. But miss more than I would like to, the auto focus is not reliable! I wanted to upgrade to the Xt5 but no battery grip for that one, as I leave the battery grip on my XT 3 because with my big hands having the battery grip feels a lot better to me and I can hold on to the camera all day when using the grip. I look at the Xh2s and Xh2 but at those prices and the looks might as well go canon as I am really thinking about the R6mk 2 especially first for Af and second the second the color science, and third while not that important but welcome the bigger sensor. Next to Fuji colors i like the canon colors also. I really don’t want to make the jump, but for me the Af on my Xt3 is just to unreliable. The only way to make sure you hit shot is to manual focus and that is good in some cases! I would love to use my XT3 professionally but the AF is just to unreliable especially in lower light conditions! Beautiful camera to shoot with but it would even be more enjoyable if I didn’t miss those key shots sometimes it just takes away from the experience. FuJifilm looks like they improved the AF on the newer cameras, especially the XH2S. The XT5 I really wanted to give that one a go but no battery grip why Fuji? The XT line I just like the way they look and the user experience! But having more hit rate is more important to me especially if I am going to use the camera in a professional setting!! Thus Better Af is more important to me, come on Fuji I need a more reliable AF and bring back the battery grip for the XT6? Not every body has small hands.
Totally agree for the exactly the same reasons.
@@mr02gixxer1000 you can get a cage instead of a grip. It gives a bigger size. Also it partially protect your camera.
@@mr02gixxer1000or try the screw-on grip from Smallrig. Really happy with it, also with bigger lenses (in my case adapted Sigma 18-35 with Fringer Pro adapter)
You nailed it. Most youtubers advertise a system switch like money grows on trees. For people like me, It's more of a hobby than a profession, and like you mentioned, I got a used xt3, an 18-55 and a viltrox 23mm, all for lesser than what a full frame body alone costs.
I much enjoyed your articulate presentation of both types of camera. It was admirably well balanced and objective, yet somehow also contained substantial points both pro and con on each side. your presentation was in no way wishy-washy.
Ha, ha--I can relate to the shutter-sound problem. I once tried out a Sony A7 (I or II) and when I heard the metallic, grinding shutter sound, that was the end for me.
But to the main point: my two cents is that you have made an very good decision. I worked several summers for a master carpenter, and he told me that he found it very worthwhile to always buy the best quality tools. I have followed his example in the camera world, as you did, moving from APSC to full frame. I feel it has been a huge help in my development as a photographer. It was a big morale booster for me because it so obviously enabled me to take better photos with less effort. I often take photos in low light, or need to use a narrow aperture on a cloudy day to get good depth of field, and the ability to shoot at higher ISO's with much less of a hit on image quality has been huge. And I much appreciate the improved autofocus, especially since I moved to the Canon R5. I am sure that you will continue to feel good about your investment as you continue to benefit from one of the best imaging tools available. Perhaps your next Sony full frame will have a more soothing sound!
Great Video.
In many ways confirms my view that changing camera/systems does not necessarily improve the images or enjoyment in the photographic experience.
At various times I've been a freelance photographer, but have always retained an interest in photography as a hobby. Now long retired I can recall the problems of obtaining sharp well exposed images and hours in the darkroom to achieve them! Many cameras now regarded as classics, such as the Leica screw cameras, the Mamiya twin lens reflexes, & the various Bronicas, and some early Nikon F's, were a pain to operate and results, better than those achievable using the more mundane/cheaper cameras of the day we're often hard to come by.
However what often made it all worthwhile, was the user experience, and which camera made you want to go out and take the shot, where cameras like the Leica IIIf & Summitar lens, really excelled!
Today's digital mirror less cameras are so good, and great images are so readily achievable.
The law of diminishing returns still applies, and changing cameras/systems is so expensive that you really want to ensure that the "new" camera/lens not only performs significantly better than your existing item or gives you greater satisfaction in use.
Recently I became dissatisfied with my Fujifilm X-H2 photographic experience and looked to change possibly to the Leica Q or SL system. I've been with Fuji "X" since 2014, and knew the "move" would be expensive. In the end I decided that the Leica experience would be different, but hardly better. I remembered how much I enjoyed the original form factor and relative lightness of the X-Pro1 encouraged me to go out and take photos. Somehow the X-H2, however good the results just didn't inspire me in the same way - being excellent was not good enough!
It was only then I realised that my X-Pro2, although not nearly such a capable camera was the camera I needed - one that I could truly love...
Your story is relatable and inspirational. I had the recent realization after obtaining a full frame about the value of shooting because of the experience, and not because of the output.
Thank you for sharing your story.
I have the A7s. My walking around lens is the Sony Zeiss 16-35/4. It's silly how little light it needs to take photos (especially with the oss). As someone who remembers how groundbreaking Kodak's p3200 was, this camera is simply magic.
I've been using it with only silent shutter for over a year now. It seems to be flawless. The EFV gives you a visual confirmation of taking a photo by going black for a moment.
I just went through the same switch for very similar reasons. I sold all my fuji gear including the x-t5 to pick up Sony a7iv but I had rather the opposite realization about my gear. I have found that for me the camera in my hand is just a tool, as long as the tool does what I tell it, I could care less what dials or buttons it has or how it looks. I found leaving the retro Fuji style liberating, rather than worrying about how each lens looked on the camera and what people would think of my choices (most don't care BTW), I have focused so much more on the photos I am creating. The switch has left me with a beautiful and profound realization that for me, it's what's on the card that matters, not the tool that captured it. I do have to say one thing that I love about Sony, when you ask it to focus on someone's eye, there is no question and no hesitation, it just does it and does it well, I really appreciate that.
Words of wisdom right there. My photography took a big leap when I stopped worrying about the gear.
Why anyone would care how it looks psychically is beyond me. Lol my XT5 is all black and so are my lenses. It’s more the color science and Fuji simulations (of course)
Same man, though I'm using an XT-20, but it's autofocus and face detection is wacky (even with fujinon lenses), my friend who uses A6300 (similar price to XT-20) rarely misfocus, and it's blazing fast autofocus.
I'm saving up to move to A6400 with a zoom (Tamron 17-70) and a Sigma 56mm), then probably upgrade the body to A6700.
"I do have to say one thing that I love about Sony, when you ask it to focus on someone's eye, there is no question and no hesitation, it just does it and does it well..." It's extremely hard to quantify just how important this is. I have a 6 1/2 month old daughter that I have been shooting relentlessly with my 10 year old Sony a6000. The autofocus is simply not good enough for me; too many shots where the focus is not on her eye, which is where I want it to be 99% of the time. As a result, I'm looking at jumping not only to a newer Sony camera, but also to a full frame Sony camera. However, since I'm not a professional, and I don't need dual-card slots, I'm looking at the Sony A7C II as my next camera. The fact that it has a body just about as small as the a6000, has the internal sensors/guts of the A7IV, but ALSO has the crazy AI autofocus capabilities of the A6700/A7rV. Hopefully, I'll be getting the additional detail over APS-C that I've been craving for years, while still being a compact, fun-to-use body.
…the Sony is just a tool… that is the truth about most of the brands. Fuji (and Leica) simply engage you to take the Cam with you because of size, weight, usability, design and passion
What? Sony camera brand is just a tool but my camera brand is passion? Lol, you sound like a tool.
From: Sony Fanboy.
I kind of agree but once you start going XT5 route with a very big, fast prime, it’s actually quite a similar setup to an A7IV. A7C is actually much smaller and lighter. It’s hard to believe but it really is. But, the colours on Fuji are simply untouchable. There’s no right and wrong really. I’m very torn between this setup. Ideally, money no option, I’d have the Sony for jobs, and an X100 series for family and EDC haha.
@@HANKBRAVO81Fancy finding you here. Fuji this time perhaps 👀
@@POVwithRC MGS ‼️ Busted!! Window shopping haha. That bloody X100 series and your XE4 started all of this. True though, for EDC, it’s just the perfect size. Replaces the phone and makes it an event. But not paying these ludicrous prices with the new one en route soon.
But then I do like my different focal lengths and Sony autofocus. Anyway, truly not in any rush. Work waggon getting squared away next month.
…and colors.
I bought my first dSLR 20 years ago. Back then everything decent was really, really expensive. A 1 gig compact flash card was $300 US. I bought a Nikon d100 (6 megapixel) and took many good images with it - as did many of my fellow photographers. I eventually bought the next model up - the d200. That served me well... and like you - I always wanted to go full frame. I love Nikon's ergonomics, as I could do so much without looking at the camera... there's a reason why so many photojournalists use them.
When the time came to make the change - I almost bought a friend's Nikon system... but then I was really intrigued by the technology of Sony's mirrorless offerings. I ended up getting the Sony A7R2 - and loved the portraits I could take with it. I do, however, still hate the menu on that camera. I've recently picked up the ZV-E1 to use for video - and the autofocus system along with the low-light capability of that camera is amazing. I'm eyeballing a new portrait camera and haven't settled on which one, yet. It's not that important, as the A7R2 with good glass continues to deliver amazing portraits.
After you get totally comfortable with the Sony system - you'll probably find that they have a soul... it's just carefully hidden deep in the menu. ;-)
I switched to Fujifilm and Sony a couple of years ago, because I wanted to fulfill 2 dreams, own a Fuji camera, and buy my first FF camera. Started with an XT3 and Sony 7a3, added the XT4 a bit later. Although I indeed see my Sony having more technical capabilities in specific situations, I'd never wanted to miss my Fujifilm colors and simulations, and just the experience of holding such a camera in my hands. It always feels like first love every time a grab a Fuji camera, whereas when I take my Sony camera it is truly more for specific trips and situations, so it's more like an assignment than just the pleasure of doing photography. So I fully feel and agree with Tobis' thoughts and remarks here! Well done video!
The film simulations recipes alone just make me want to shoot more and experiment with the colour. I think Fuji cameras just bring back a bit of that film shooting experience where the photos you should just require minimal processing. With other cameras, because of how chunky they are and how clinical every photo looks, it feels more like a chore
Such an honest and nice review! Loved it. ❤
Great video. I appreciate the perspective you provide because I think many fuji shooters are wondering what it would be like to switch.
Superb video. Love the objectivity and self-awareness. Thank You.
Great vlog subject. I understood your dilemma, however...I just sold off all of my Full Frame Nikon gear, that is 4 FF bodies and 10 lenses. I use all Fujifilm now, that is 3 x GFX Medium Format cameras and 7 Fujifilm XT series bodies, i.e. 2 x XT3's, 2 x XT4's, 2 X XH-2's and a cute XT20 for street stuff. I also own 25 Fuji lenses. I sold my Nikon gear as I hadn't touched them in over 2 years. All of my pro shoots have been shot with Fujifilm of which 60% have been with the XT's and 40% with the GFX's. I was published in VOGUE and ELLE with the XT series and VOGUE, ELLE, GRAZIA and major advertorial campaigns with the GFX and XT's. I think most cameras today can do a great job and most are overkill.
I'm going to follow you and subscribe
A year or so ago, I sold some Nikon things and start a conversation with the buyer, I commented about going mirrorless with Fuji, and the buyer told me that Fuji wasn't a good option for pro use, that Fuji is unreliable and nothing more than a toy.
I love Sony, Nikon, Fuji. I worked with all 3. I sticked with Nikon because of the xqd, body feel, z lenses.
@@amermeleitor who ever says Fuji is nothing more than a toy has 0 knowledge in photography
Happy photo journeys with your Sony! I went from Canon FF DSLR to Fuji. I'm intrigued by the Sony A7, but have no plans to change systems. I'm glad you are comfortable with your decision to switch, nowadays each system has compelling features.
I use a Q2 and Olympus/ OM M4/3. I’ve also used an M11. Most of the time I can’t tell which photo was taken with which camera. “Full frame” isn’t an upgrade and smaller sensors aren’t second best. They are choices we make depending on our priorities. We don’t all have the same needs and preferences. I think its great that we have some much choice.
Very perceptive and completely understandable process. Very well done and informative video.
Good video, thank you for the insight! I have my Fuji and was about to jump to a Sony A7 world but I end up buying Nikon ZF and but still going out and having fun shooting with my Fuji! x
Great video! I've recently done the reverse. I've used Nikon for years (D60, D7200, D780, Z6II) and had a Fuji X-T3 for a few year for casual shots (travel/street etc). I have been fustrated a lot with the Z6II, with it's general feel and it's shocking AF though and so did struggle with it a lot. I upgraded X-T3 to the X-T5 a year ago, which I found I ended up using for almost everything. I then decided to take the mad jump and sold all my Nikon gear and got the X-H2S along with the 100-400mm lens a few month back. I find it excellent for sport and wildlife shots and the X-T5 works great for almost everything else. Because they use virtually the same menu system makes the operation flow for me and I now have a very decent selection of zoom lenses that are obviously switchable between them both. I know what you mean about the difference between Full frame and APS-C, especially with low light, and I'm still temtped to get a Nikon Z7 purely for landscape, but I don't know how I can hide gear that from my partner 🙂
Sounds like my voyage...see above.
Yeah, the Nikon Z system is a real letdown… specifically the z6 I… my worst investment in cameras bar-none! The worst part about the Nikons are, that they really did not embrace the possibilities enabled by mirrorless - having fixed size limited autofocus point and zone options is… just so… unambitious! The X-H2S and the GFX are really enjoyable to shoot and they perform! For smaller street style I settled on the Ricoh GRIIIx… what a gem!
Full frame versus apsc is so overrated! You mostly just get to buy more expensive lenses, and carry more weight, for not much difference! Full frame versus medium format… different story… maybe because medium format is just so much better than anything else… my GFX are amazing… also the now really cheap GFX50R
I really like your honest opinion. Most guys in youtube only talk about specs and marketing stuffs. But you spoke about feelings which matters to me most.
i made the opposite switch. Went from an A7 III to Fuji X-T20 and a year ago the X-H2, and i'm not regretting it. On the Sony my favorite Lens was the Sigma 135mm 1.8, now i got the 75mm 1.2 on the Fuji. I get very comparable results, and the lens only half of the weight and price. I don't do a lot of Video, but what i get out of the X-H2 is very decent, since it's 4k is downsampled from 8k. Instead of LOG i made a custom image Profile which i use both for video and stills, so i get consistant results and can put images into a video and they dont look out of place. The only thing i'm missing is the low light performance, but i got to work around that with f/1.4 and f/1.2 lenses.
All in all, 4 years after the switch, i'm still happy with my Fuji setup, especially for the film simulations. I shoot RAW+HEIF, but rarely using the RAW files, because the HEIF/JPEG's are just that good. On the Sony i definitely spent more time processing than now. So another thing on the plus side.
This is really well done. I appreciate the candor. I switched from Fuji back to Canon a few years ago and I can relate to your ambivalence. There are lots of things about my R5 that are better. But there are definitely features that are more sophisticated on the Fuji. The biggest thing I miss though is actually the Fuji online communities filled with amazing photos that I wished I had taken myself. And such enthusiasm. Canon online communities seem filled with super-sharp photos of boring subjects. And so many photos of birds. Ugh. I can't afford to switch back either. I probably wouldn't anyway. Probably.
Interesting to hear your thoughts! Great insights :) 🙌
You nailed it… for the same reason (but in the “opposite” direction), I bought an X-E2 to discover what the fuss is about. My regular camera is a Sony a7m3 and I find that I’m grabbing the X-E2 for day to day shots and short vacations. A very enjoyable post and thanks for sharing it.
If you really enjoy Fujifilm, did you consider getting a Fujifilm GFX 50 model to complement your crop sensor Fujifilm camera?
Nice video. I recently bought the A7iv and the colour science for me is the main thing I would like to see improved
A very interesting video. As a pro-Sony music shooter, I only see my gear as a tool to get the job done. Your video brought me back to my younger days when I first took up photography and I love the way you describe the Fuji camera. Thanks very much and I've subscribed. I look forward to watching more of your videos
Deine Videos sind wirklich klasse. Gerne weiterhin mehr davon. 👍
I've been a photographer since the 1980's, I've had many full frame cameras, mainly canon. I picked up a Fuji X-E3 with some primes a few years ago. I wanted a light carry and the manual dial controls and aperture rings on the lenses appealed to me in a nostalgic way. My Canon R5 is relegated nowadays. The Fujifilm gear has rejuvenated my love for photography and reignited my passion in a way I've not felt since my film camera days. I love getting the image right in the camera with the film emulations and recipes. I spent hours in lightroom tweaking RAW images, but no more. I now have a Fuji X-Pro 3 and I love it. The Canon is clinically better but the Fuji has the soul and I love the tactile experience of the dials, the whole experience is superior and I am getting out with the camera much more often. The Canon Images are scientifically sharp and precise but my Fuji images are gloriously imperfect. I have recipes that match the look my old 35mm Film pictures, perfectly. I'd lose the canon before I'd give up my fuji gear.
I also went through several camera changes, from Canon to Nikon to Fuji to Sony and now I've bought the X-T5. Your video strongly resonates with me as the Fuji system is more fun to shoot with. The Sony is great for it's AF but doesn't make me want to go out and shoot. For now I have both systems but will be deciding whether I'll be keeping the Sony system going forward. My favourite lens on the Sony is the Sigma 85mm 1.4 that I own, curious to see how the newer Fuji lenses compare.
Nicely articulated, informative, and interesting! I went from Nikon to Sony and for some time now have shot with the A7R, A5100, RX10, and RX100. Love em all, but the fun of shooting Fuji and the reputation for sharp photos from these cameras piqued my curiosity so I got an X-T10, then upgraded to an X-T30. Just love it, different shooting experience, and I use it as much as my Sony cams.
Nice video
Helpful.
What's that small shoulder bag you were using?
I have also got into same trap, I have Fuji XT5 and Sony A7R4 with the curiosity of full frame. It took me a while to realize it's not the camera which is making a great shot but it's person holding the camera. Today 95% time I still use Fuji because I love the design with all the buttons easily accessible, compact design and it can do almost everything what my Sony camera can do and maybe better in many cases. Now selling my Sony gear will be a great loss because there is not much resale value so I am just keeping it for occasional usage.
At least you were honest enough to admit you were caught by the marketing. I've been shooting for 15 years now and holy moly did social media created huge fomo and gear envy.
Less gear, more art!
I really enjoy your videos Tobis! And this was a particularly honest and insightful perspective on what many non-pro, but serios photographers like myself, go through. Sometimes satisfying the GAS is just what we need to make us appreciate what we already have. Like most, I have a limited budget. But I typically keep my older gear instead of trading it in, even if that means waiting longer for a new purchase. Lately I have rekindled my love affair with my old 2014 Fuji XT1. Shame on me for ever thinking I needed anything more to take better photos. It was, and still is, the perfect camera for my style of photography. And I'm glad I still have it...
Great video! I'm lucky that I own a Sony, Fuji & Leica. Usually I grab the Leica or Fuji. Both provide different experiences but the key is that both inspire me to want to go shoot. I usually grab the Sony on bigger photo projects. I think the Fuji X-T5 definitely has hit a nice spot for me. It's like a small Sony A74 but with Fuji color science.
Your experience using the Q2 compared to the a7IV and the 24GM?
Thank you for discussing your assessment of the change from aps-c to full-frame and fuji to sony. Like you I felt drawn towards full frame as the “real” system, and aps-c was this new thing I’d never heard of, having last come from film years before. I tried to be objective in thinking about what my needs were and would be for the foreseeable future and realized I would be content with a lighter, less expensive system that made photography understandable and fun - the dials - yet had a range of good lenses to choose from. But like you I have continued to have a nagging feeling that I should be somehow “embarrassed” by my system for being aps-c or having less-capable low light or autofocus performance. I think your experience would be mine - yes, incrementally better, but you do give up some aspects and it costs more, and so you need the Leica in the mix to make the transition work. So I will try to soldier on until I have reached the limits of my current gear, and shut off those unhelpful emotions. Or: Yes a truck is bigger than a sports car; did you want a sports car or did you want a truck?
I have a Sony and for me it's pretty hard work to get the image where I want it but you are completely right when you were talking about the modern retro look of the Fuji xt4. I love all the dials and Fuji colours. If I had one, I am sure I would be inspired to shoot more.
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OMG I'm so happy I watched your video! I came to exactly same conclusion. I went from 5d mk3 to XT-2 (and I loved that camera) and then switched to Sony (a73 and later to a74), because of video. I regret selling that X-T2 so much... It gave me such joy just holding that camera... so much fun..
loved your honesty. great video, i share a lot of similar feelings but with canon instead of sony! absolutely LOVE fuji
That’s actually very useful testimony. As an enthusiast Fuji user, I’m also eyeing going full frame at some point. The advantages of yesterday’s aps-c are evaporating. In terms of price they’re close, and Sony’s a7c is actually smaller than the x-t. The full frame f1.8 lenses are f1.2 equivalent and are cheaper… so what’s keeping me at aps-c?
Like you, I feel the experience matters and I like the tactile traditional dials. Also I got all the lenses I needed and now it’s really not easy to start over. And as an enthusiast, I will never go for those $3k f1.2 lenses that take full advantage of the sensor.
But in general the low light advantages of full frame are indisputable, and they do seem to produce better quality photos in general.
A very honest video about those differences. I love the way Fuji is presented, I think it is a very good tactile experience and the Fuji colors are amazing. Sony feels more like a computer, but I am used to that after extensive use of a ZV-1. I got used to the Sony menu which alot of people hate, programmed heavily used functions to the custom buttons. I made it more tactile with manual lenses and I have to say I really enjoy that combo, the RAW files are great. But if I ever buy a new system for photography it will probably be a Fuji. I will give my Sony to my daughter who is now shooting with a Fuji Finepix F100FD from 2008, which makes really nice retro pictures.
Thanks for your honest and subjective review. It's good to hear a personal review of why and how you thought about the process.
Very honest video. I used Nikon APS and never got on with it. After researching I bought an X-T20 and fell in love. I’ve since bought an X-H1 for ibis and weathersealing but it’s a bit big for my liking. The leaf shutter is amazing though!!! I’d like a Sony FF with the 24mm GM but know I wouldn’t get the enjoyment going back to a DSLR style camera so I have to resist!
We talk in FF/35mm equivalent because it's a standard by which we can compare FoV between systems, not because FF is the goal.
The goal is different for everyone, depending on what/how/in what conditions they shoot. I switched from FF (and not some old outdated camera, but A7R V and A1) to MFT (OM-1) and I am still happy with my decision 9 months later. Are some aspects worse? Of course. But there is no perfect camera, or camera system, there are compromises to be made, no matter what you buy and how much you spend.
Also what's stopping you from creating a custom picture profile on the Sony, just like you did on the Fuji?
That is the best summary of the struggle with the "fuji feeling" I have ever read. There are cameras that are way better tools, with a huge lack of That inspirational and fun feeling using a fuji, especially the T series. My way was Nikon Apsc, Nikon ff, Sony Apsc, Sony A7III, Panasonic MFT, and finally Fuji. And it feels like the end of a long way in search of the "right" camera. No Raw anymore, just jpegs with recipes and little adjustments in post. jpeg is more capable for post processing than you might think, if you give it a try. But still, there are these days, when the AF is slow and picky in finding the subject, when the light is against you and you know the foto is too noisy to crop in enough... then I miss my Sony.
I’d be tempted to jump from Aps-c to 4x5 getting a used Blad digital.
Hey. Super Video. 👍 Am Ende war ein kleiner Versprecher drin. (Stick to Fuji) 😅
Finde es toll das Du so offen darüber sprichst. Bei mir war es gerade anders herum. Ich habe mit der A7C meine erste Kamera gekauft, bis ich eine X100V in die Hände bekommen habe und komplett auf Fuji umgestiegen bin.
Neben der X100V besitze ich eine X-H2S, die beim Autofocus einen grossen Sprung gemacht hat.
Wie Du es sagst, die Sony ist super. Aber die Fuji nimmt man lieber in die Hand.
Schönen Abend und Grüße
Erik
A month ago with the 2023 Winter Deals, I sold my main camera Fujifilm X-T1 , XF 16f2.8, XF 23f2 & XF 35f2 and use the money to buy a brand new Lumix S5 + S20-60 f3.5-5.6 and S50 f1.8 for less than the Fujifilm X-T5 Body alone. I am blown away. I love everything about this S5. The only issue I have is the weight but it is compensated by how good and feature packed the camera is. Fully Weather sealed too. Will use this for my gig.
For an EDC, I sold my travel camera Lumix GX8 & Leica DG 12-60 f2.8-4 and bought a mint condition Nikon Z50 with Z 16-50mm, Z 50-250mm and Z 28mm f2.8 without extra expense ( under €1000 super deal ) from 2nd hand market and I will say, the way I love my X-T1 is the way I love my Z50 now, maybe more ( I don't feel the same for my GX8 ). The Z50 Jpegs are awesome too without editing, although I did tweak the in-camera color setting to my liking. The amount of 3rd partly lens are also a lot. I don't see myself expanding both my kit further right now and I don't see any reasons to go back to Fujifilm as well. Thanks for the video!
A long time ago I started my photography journey with one of the Lumix camera. After two years I switched to Nikon and 10 years later switched again but to Canon. For now I'm not satisfied and dreaming about Fuji camera. Maybe I need to take a step back and return to the roots? To the Lumix? :)
@@user-tr6lg8vw5w My problem with Fujifilm is I ended up copying other peoples composition and simulations. My transition is not easy as well but every time I look at the Jpeg of the S5, I am so satisfied. Full Frame renders differently. I am a Full Frame snob before until I owned one.
Great analysis! :) I'm a SONY guy myself, having their APS-C cameras first and jumping to the A7's later...
I'm thinking about getting some Fujis too, I really love those cameras...
Did you ever consider the Nikon ZF?
Seems to be the perfect blend between the retro feel of Fujifilm and the amazing capabilities of a modern full frame camera..
And the best thing is that you can easily adapt all your Sony lenses to Nikons Z mount 👍🏻
As someone who has done the same process, I agree with your sentiments when you say that Fuji is more fun than the soulless but capable Sony. I used to love the XT3 as a travel camera. The user experience, weight and size of the smaller Fuji is hard to beat!
Kind of agree. I have a sony a7riii and its the least used FF camera I have. It does the job well when used. I have some older sony's i use alot more like a nex7 and a very old 14MP nex3 whos shutter sounds anazing. Some cameras just call to us in a way marketing cannot predict. My most used digital camera is still an original Pentax k5 even if it has long since lost its lens release button, followed by a pana LC1.
Fantastic video! I agree, there is something very enjoyable -- almost magical -- about the look, feel, and "soul" of the Fujifilm cameras. I've never experienced that same feeling toward any of the other camera systems I've used, including Nikon, Sony, Canon and Panasonic. The photographs I get from my Fujifilm X-T3 have a special, luscious/artful quality that I simply don't see in any of the other brands. I'm a full-time professional product photographer who prefers to use my Fujifilm camera whenever I shoot lifestyle images, and the Sony a7 iv for the more technical, white background/studio photos.
Brilliant video. I'm coming back to photography after a few years out and a deciding what system to go with. I had the A7iv on hire last weekend (with the 24-70 f2.8GM), and this weekend I have the X-H2 with the 16-55 red label (or whatever Fuji call their top lenses) and also the 23mm f1.4 R LM WR. I agree entirely with your points - I think the Sony is a 'better' camera, but the Fuji is definitely more fun to use, which means I'm going to pick it up and go and shoot.
With two young kids time is precious, and I found I was having to tweak everything out of the Sony before sharing it, whereas with Fuji, I'm shooting raw+jpeg, usually with a film simulation applied, and I'm sharing straight from the camera - it's so refreshing!
Yes the Sony AF is stickier than the Fuji, but as you rightly say, it's nowhere near as bad as a lot of content online makes out, at least not for my use case. Obviously there are loads more pros and cons of both systems, and each person will have different wants and desires, but in summary I’d say the Sony is a Porsche - solid and utterly dependable. You know it's going to excel at everything you ask of it. The Fuji is a Ferrari - an amazing bit of kit but it’s going to make you work to get the best out of it and might let you down every now and then.
Have you tried the Creative Look option on your Sony? I use it on my A7RV and shoot RAW + JPEG as it only applies to the JPEGs and can still edit the RAW files for my favorite/best photos, as needed.
Hi there, thanks for this great video; I am currently considering doing exactly what you did, for the exact same reasons. I like my Fuji XT2 and lenses just fine, but the lure of Full Frame is real. The only thing I really care about is the image quality and colors, in RAW files, edited in Lightroom. (I like the JPGs, but always shoot/edit RAW). So I'm curious: coming from years of taking and editing Fuji photos, how would you say the Sony RAW files compare? Will I enjoy the colors as much? I feel like I've heard that Sony takes more editing than Fuji does to get nice colors, but I have no personal experience with it. Thanks for any insights!
Probably not. I couldn't make Sony colors work for me. I'm using LR and DXO for editing. In good daylight I think I can live with Sony colors, but in artificial and difficult light there is no end to editing trying to make them look good, it's always a feeling of dissatisfaction in the end. If you want FF camera with good colors then get Nikon, I'm really liking it.
Just went the other way from a Nikon D850 / Z7 to an XT-5. Very happy overall. Much lighter (and cheaper) and having the exposure triangle as a ‚mechanical‘ application is something I really like. Quality wise I don‘t see big differences to my F-lenses (Z-lenses are better though). There is a little more noise at high ISO. Having a greater depth of field is as often an advantage as it is a disadvantage. Overall I would say, that in the printed picture you don‘t see a difference - and definitely not on Instagram.
I have both too but I just love my z lenses way more than my fuji lenses.
Started out with a Sony A7C, bought another A7IV and could not stop buying lenses for it. I never had the "feeling" of a Fuji or a Leica, so I don't know what you are talking about - all I know is that I am very passionate about taking photos with my A7IV 🙂
Why not with the A7C? I kinda found out about the importance of a good viewfinder, when taking photos - not videos. The A7C now is my videocamera only.
Those shots on the 70d look great. Looking at getting an 80d soon.
It's fools gold, don't do it.
We all are attached to our cameras for different reasons. History is one of them. You mentioned the beautiful images you created with Fuji. The growth as a photographer is part of creating memories with the tool you use. I know, I have original Sony A7. I tried others, I miss it. It will always be with me. I got other cameras and they do a better job or are easier to use. Really good recount of your experience.
Great Video!
I've done the opposite: I had some Sony FF-cams (Rx1, A7, A7III) and was never really happy with them, the reasons were the same as you said in your video. Then I tried a X-E4 and some months later I switched to Fuji completetly. Working with an X-T4 (which was replaced by an X-T5, which is a superb camera!) was so much more pleasing than with the A7III. But I had (and still) have similar thoughts about better IQ and less DOF. Well, last year I bought a cheap 6D and some lenses (currently the Sigma Art 35mm f1.4) and when I want the FF-look I take this camera (or the Viltrox 27mm f1.2 which is quite near to a FF-look).
Interestingly the shutter-sound really is one key-aspect for me too - in the X-T5 it is even quieter than in the X-T4 but the overall click-sound on the X-T4 was a tiny bit more pleasing for me.
However I accepted for me that I will always think of other cameras and systems (GFX...😊) but the things in wich Fuji-cameras shine are really relevant for me. Let's see what I am using two years from now in the future 😂.
I bought the xt5 after selling my a7iv for the exact reason you mentioned. I was never excited to use it. It feels like it has no soul. I never felt like taking it with me. I used to shoot on Fuji awhile ago and I started really missing it. Shooting on Fuji just feels different. I love it.
I don't feel like my a7iv is just a tool, I find it inspiring and I love the design. It's interesting to me how often people will say Sony bodies are 'boring' or even 'soulless' 💀.
While I agree x100v or the xpro for example have a different kind of charm and I appreciate those a lot, I think the design of the xt5/xt4 is no more beautiful or charming than the modern Sony bodies.
Fujis colour recipes in camera are super cool and I wish sony would have the same. I like to play with the creative looks in my a7iv and those are cool but the fuji ones are better.
Lovely video! Subbed (I shoot video with Sony & have just got an X-T5 for stills - it's a magic experience)
Thanks for making this video. Most videos would talk about switching from Sony to Fuji and boast about the „feel“ and „soul“ aspect, without giving Sony a fair chance to even show their own superior capability when it comes to sensor size, low light performance, and straight up sharpness.
I now mainly use Fujifilm for everything, like personal documentation, trips, as well as more ‚serious‘ works like portraits and events. And i love it due to how small, beautiful, and light the whole setup is.
But when i‘m doing paid concerts or weddings, i always wish for lower noise and even better editing flexibility.
Thank you so much for sharing so honest thougts and ideas.
You are spot on! I have both systems for personal use. I only take the Sony out when I need to get the shot when shooting events for friends. I do like the full frame look and can see the difference in my photos. There's more pop. Overall, I prefer the feel, shooting experience and jpg colours of Fuji which helps me spend a lot less time in post. I can't justify the cost of Sony's expensive and heavy lenses.
Great video. This is not the first time I've heard someone describe Sony's as "soul-less"; it seems to be a very common thought amongst the camera community. I think it can be attributed to the fact that Sony prides themselves on technological innovation. From a tech-spec perspective they are always ahead of the game, but that's their flaw too. Companies like Fuji take pride in their vintage-esque design, which adds a lot of character and fun to the user experience.
The chokehold that the Canon 70D (and 80D) and Sigma 18-35mm 1.8 had on the TH-cam community in those years! I also had one as my first major camera investment! Now I'm Fuji XH2S and I absolutely love it.
Went from X-T1 to X-H1 and now to A7RV.
Actually wanted to stay Fuji. Been with them for over a decade. However, was tired of the poor AF performance and got super excited when the X-H2 was announced. People were raving it as finally Sony/Canon level. Went out to give it a whirl but conflicted. Yea, AF was way better, only because it was so bad, but not fully satisfying. Didn't feel polished. Most notably the AF green box always lagged behind the subject. Not as sticky.
While standing at the store bummed about my experience I gave a Sony a try. "whuut..." the AF was so good. What have I been missing out all these years. Yup, now I am an owner of an A7RV and sold all my dozen Fuji lenses for half it's cost. A7RV felt like an X-H3 of the future made available today for more money. Better in every way. More MP, nicer IBIS, tilt+flip lcd, and AI AF that works perfectly.
All the things people praise Fuji for I didn't care much of. Color science, retro look, tactile button/knobs, jpeg recipes film simulation, the aesthetic or inspiration. I'm geeky & just use the tool to get the shot I want then fiddle with the image on my laptop. Suppose I never really fit the Fuji hipster profile and was at heart more a techy Sony. Totally fine with being what people call "soul-less"
Yeh I want it to work, not have a “soul” whatever that means, the Fuji dials are useless and slow, adjusting simple things requires too many steps, the AF still sucks even if better it falls apart if the subject is a bit further away or if light conditions aren’t perfect, horrible corner wobble with wider lenses and the sensor high ISO noise and low light performance lag about 10 years behind full frame. I went from an X-S20 to a ZV-E1 and the dials are more precise and feel higher quality, the grip has more clearance so your knuckles don’t rub against the lens, it’s a sexy camera that’s so tiny but has the AI processor of the A7R5, the legendary sensor of the A7S3 with the firmware of an FX3 with other AI functionality, it’s so inspiring to pick this incredible machine knowing it has all this power and it’s still much smaller than the subpar APS-C Fuji bodies…
"fuji hipsters" lmao pretty much sum it up whats going on the internet lately, i wanted to get into fuji after years of hiatus with an entry level canon dslr and wanted to get a cheap body in order to start collecting the lenses but the prices are just absurd, even for 10yrs old bodies at $600+, i gave up and went with sony
Makes sense, photography vs tech I guess
@@DigiDriftZone The ZV-E1 is crazy expensive, though.
I have had 9 Fujifilm Digital cameras in the last 7 years. I started falling in love with the X100S, and I haven't switched brands since then. Always opting for second-hand cameras, and I've never lost money when selling them. I'm captivated by their design and the colors of their jpeg files.
Great perspective and spot on about Sony. They are really just a tool, but they are the best tool. Also please clean your sensor! 😁
Did you try a 70-200 f2.8 or 70-180 f2.8 on the A7 IV? It was such a huge game changer for me when I first tried my Tamron 70-180mm f2.8 on the A7 III instead of my A6500. The look of 180mm f2.8 on full-frame, escpacially when you doing portraits outside in the nature, is just so incredible. It's a look that I simply could never create with my APS-C camera. Totally love it and it totally justifies having a full-frame camera for me. Lowlight capabilities, dynamic range, features etc... yeah all nice and so, but what really matters is the look with some specific lenses that you just can not recreate on APS-C.
Appreciate your honest thoughts. I’m the opposite. I have Sony full frame and and curious to try Fuji for what I imagine is a more fun easy experience that gets beautiful photos with out messing around in Lr and Ps
A simple way to do this would just to stick to your sony system, and get a x100vi. That way you get to mess about with fuji system and the filters etc without having to commit and selling everything.
I was a guy switching from Sony to Fuji previously.
I can surely feel the capability of the Sony Cameras, but every time I have to post processing every photo
But as you have said, the Fuji cameras just gave me the process of shooting photos and the SOOC photos are just marvellous. And now I have abandoned post processing most of the time unlesss I have some high DR photos like some landscape shots.
Another thing is that most of us can take great photos using smartphone right now, skipping all of the process but still gave you decent results. If I have to take a camera with me, I surely will only take the Fuji out.
As someone who has switched from Fuji to Canon FF, I can related to most of what you said in this video. Haivng said that, I just don't get the feel or understand the 'fun factors' that people has been talking about using Fuji cameras (I have owned XT1, XT2, XT20 and still has the XT3). The fun and excitement for me when using a camera is that the Autofocus works when I need it to and not hunting back and forth for focus during critical moments and makes me always second guessing if the last shots I've taken was in focus or not.
But I can't deny the fact that, it is nice to use Fuji as the leisure camera when reliable continuous AF is not needed, due to it's much smaller size and weight.
I get the passion and aesthetic of the camera giving rise to a greater sense of enjoyment derived from using it.
As you say the visual cues, feel of the controls, and pleasing sound of the shutter of the Fuji, find a place in your mind to coalesce and trigger your mind to prompt an almost tangible feeling to find, compose or create a desired image with it.
That said what I find helpful is to add a piece of artisan gear, unique off brand. Specifically to focus on one or two of the highlights of your camera, ibis, image size, 10 bit video, etc to recapture the mind body connection, hopefully to elicit even more beautiful images. 😊
I love my A7 IV. I've never shot jpeg or wanted to, so I just don't get it, when it comes to that. When you said that with the Sony you lose the 'fashion aspect' of having a camera, I felt like you gave away the hidden hipster chalice for a second. I've always felt the photographer puts the soul into the camera, and not the other way around.
Before I got the A7 IV, I had a Nikon D80, which I bought in 2008 or so. It had a lot of limitations (no video, relatively low megapixel, all the hangups of a CCD sensor) and many people would think of it as ugly. While I have nostalgia attached to it and would never sell it, I also always just saw it as a tool, a means to an end. I only upgraded last year to the A7 IV because I actually needed more sensor resolution and video capability. I still use the Nikon as a second camera for BTS stuff for my projects because it's still a perfectly capable camera even after all these years. That's it, though: They're just cameras, and they're nothing without the person.
My only criticism of the Sony A7 IV would the menus. I get around some of that with the desktop app when I shoot tethered and a bit with the mobile app. But the menus are a bit of a drag.
As an artist i suppose you like beautiful things, so i do not get how you wouldn't appreciate a beautiful camera, which sony isn't at all.
@@cristibaluta I wonder if you were a painter, if you would settle for nothing less than the most beautiful palette knife. Or the most beautiful brush.
I'm happy with having versatile tools that work. The art comes from the artist.
@@bloodswarms Hardly a good comparison, for such cheap items it doesn't really matter
You should have seen the menus on the A7iii. The menus are vastly improved on the A7iv.
Got Sony A7Cii. Sold it after a few months, can't live with those colors.
This was indeed a good video, I think you hit home with 99% of photographers, we all fall into the allure of the camera industry strategically marketed, I at one time in my life had to settle for crop sensors, and only dream on a full frame then it was the Nikon d700, But things changes with my bank, acc. so I have been around the block, now I have 5 different systems I just love the hunt for the perfect camera, Good job with video. God bless.
I love my Fuji and I alwyays had, but this made me appreciate it even more. I love how lighweight and easy too carry it is and how much it makes me enjoy shooting. Eveven though I also cant get buying a full frame a7c ii out of my head :D
Regarding having to use different exposure comp values between Fuji and Sony, and - counterintuitively given the bigger sensor on Sony - Sony having to be overexposed: are you using the same metering modes?
Just found this vid because I have a Sony a7iv and a Fuji and I just like the Fuji colors so much more.
Regarding the silent shutter. I use this a good bit to take photos of orchestra stage performances where silence is critical. One MAJOR downside of the electronic shutter is that you cannot utilize anti-flicker shooting unless you are using mechanical shutter. So I often end up with shadow banding due to the LED lights.
Thank you for the video and for sharing your experience with those cameras.
Actually, my first DSLR was Canon 70D, and back then, I also had the same doubts about not using a full frame in the back of my head all the time. Then I switched to Fuji Xt4 as well. Since then, that nagging noise in my head faded away. I am still on Fuji territory with Fuji Xt5 now. High resolution 40 mega pixel camera. The only issue I would say is low light capability. BTW, I should mention that I am a landscape photographer and full frame look or bokeh is not what I am after.
So what I'm trying to say is, I am very much sympathy with your experience.
I sold my my Sony a71v and a7r with lenses & switched to Fujifilm.
I did the same thing. BUT, to olympus.Couldn't be happier.
Have you considered getting the A7cii or the A7cR?
those are my upgrade path from a6400
much appreciated video - thx for your honest and self-reflecting words and thoughts. YT lacks that... I did your Canon to Fuji move like 10 yrs back, mainly for the image quality and experience and never had any moment of regret. When I listen to you I come to a different conclusion though: maybe I should move like you? I am happy, but I miss (even more) low light capability and faster AF; real bokey, too, getting tired of the iphone portrait mode... I am doing sth I would call "documentary of my life resp my kids lifes" (in German I'd call it "Reportage"), no "nice" fotos or setup portraits, I just want to capture moments. With kids these moments are fast and sometimes when it gets darker. I agree with your "instant gratification" argument BUT that's what I get from the iPhone. When I take the real cameras I'd rather get best quality - I anyway need to download and process these shots later. The built-in camera screen is too small (for my eyes) anyway - for a display the be happy with my shot I'd need at least an (regular) iPhone size.. So, when I listen to you I get tempted to at least cleanup my setup (X-T5 and E-X3 as well as a small Sony RX-100 Va), sell maybe one Fuji and get a Sony with a proper lens (for a start I'd need 35mm (or 50?) - basically I need "what my eyes do see". When I wanted to force myself away from zoom lenses I always thought I am never abel to do so until I realized that I actually do that with my telephone where I hardly ever use the zoom function. Based on experience (and where I do to shot) I have a tendency to wide angle; however, grown up kids do not like lenses too close to their faces, so I light tele could be nbr 2 (for that costly experiment)
Hi Tobias, i agree 100 %. Since i bought my Sony i lost the Passion of taking pictures in my freetime.
My pictures are good, but the feelings are gone 😢
I do have the Sony camera that sounds similar to the X-T4's shutter sound - the A1. The one camera that rarely requires using a mechanical shutter. I've had many Sony cameras in the past five years, but the shutter sound was so loud that I ended up using the A9 and then the A1 since I was covering events that would give me glares when there was a shutter sound. I still use Sony gear but I seem to use my m43 kit more.
What camera did you use to film this video?
As a pro I still shoot only apc cameras and not once has anyone complained about what I use and if there is one camera I would love to shoot with, it’s Fuji. Just love their colours and hope to get one soon.
So… if had choice again would you now have the xt5 to give you that feel in the camera and an xh2s to give that workhorse body you also need since the AF is much improved. Gave up my Sony A9ll and a7r4 for those. Have shot both FF and MF professionally for years and Fuji right now inspires me so win win…
You recorded the most honest dilema we all face. We are all tying to shoot the best images that we can and fall prey to the marketing of manufacturers who suggest we will take better pictures if we use X lens or Y camera
Great insight and lessons. I think a lot of people would benefit from hearing your story. I also went between Sony and Fuji. I've traveled, used them daily, and produced print work with both. I agree - Sony cameras are cold and calculating. They get the job done with no regard to enjoyment of use. I kind of had the opposite journey to you in that I bought into Fujifilm after Sony because of the enjoyment hype but I did not feel that enjoyment at all. It may just be a different way of thinking. I much preferred the ergonomics of holding the A7 bodies and the tactility of the buttons. I also found all of my Sonys to be a lot less prone to software glitches and missed focus. I don't think resolution is everything, but there was an unexpected downside to Fuji's sensor for stills. Sony's 24mp rendering even with a vintage lens was so much more detailed than Fuji's, especially in foliage/nature which I shoot a whole lot of. I also noticed when Fujis are left in auto ISO during video, you can clearly see "stepping" between the ISOs. Same for aperture and small focus changes.
A couple of tips that could help you enjoy the camera more. I remember buying an A7ii and a couple of vintage lenses for about $600 total and getting stunning results. That is one aspect that gave me so much joy - stabilizing vintage primes with their full image circle. It also bridged a lot of that "classic controls" enjoyment gap. Also, the Sony "Creative Styles" are not bad. I especially enjoy the "Autumn" setting when shooting nature. You have an A7iv so you have a much deeper level of adjustment than the 2nd and 3rd generation bodies I've mostly used.
I was thinking long and hard about switching from a Nikon D500 to a Sony Alpha III.
Then on a rather impulsive decision, I changed my mind and got a Fujifilm X-T5.
Before buying I had tried my friends Sony Alpha III and just didn't like the experience.
Also for the first time, I really tried a prime lens because of the focus peaking settings on the X-T5. I know the Sony would've had that too and maybe would've had the better autofocus but taking photos with Fuji was fun again while with the Nikon it always felt like a chore to take it with me because of the weight and size. Now I'm running around with my X-T5 and a Zeiss Jena Tessar 50mm f2.8 as an everyday setup just because even with the adapter, it's very portable. Also i LOVE the dials and buttons on Fuji! I got the lens for 35 dollars on a flea market and it made my approach to Photography more methodical and "slow". Now I take time to compose the image in my head before shooting and I'm giddy to get home and fire up Lightroom.
Only after buying I also thought about what I like to photograph. I like to get close to my subjects and i like testing how far i can go with this so APS-C I'm technically already closer to the subject so i was like 'yay, I like that.'