I think this is the core problem why fujifilm cameras have bad autofocus. The flying eye , hand detection were nothing compared to this. I get a lof of comments asking where to find all old firmwares for all cameras here www.touslesdrivers.com/index.php?v_page=26&v_code=319
@@edvard2942 I agree, I’ve always suspected phase-detect didn’t work right; going from 425 available focus points in single-point mode down to 117 points in ANY other mode was a BIG red flag, and performance tests I did myself bore that out, and now your tests conclusively confirm it.
This is one of the best videos on cameras and Fuji I’ve ever watched, and I’ve seen a lot. It deserves to be seen by Fuji’s CEO and should be featured alongside every official Fuji TH-cam video and any content made by those spouting nonsense about Fuji cameras. I own many cameras, including the A7RV, ZVE1, A6700, A7CII, Canon R10, Nikon Zfc, Fuji X100V, and, as of last week, the XM5. The XM5’s marketing pitches it as ideal for video blogging, but its focus makes it completely unsuitable for that. It’s like a Porsche with a powerful engine but a wobbly steering wheel: hugely disappointing. Like you, I’ve tested a variety of lenses, but as we both know, the problem isn’t the lenses. The issue is poor software. The hardware: fast processor, sensor, etc.-is on par with other brands, so there’s no excuse. Your video needs more attention. If I’d seen it sooner, I wouldn’t have wasted my money on the XM5.
EVERYONE, THIS IS THE VIDEO TO SEND TO FUJIFILM IF YOU WANT BETTER AF FOR VIDEO. We won't have better AF if we only leave comments on TH-cam videos. We have to push further! Now if only someone would do the same extensive testing for photo AF.
@@JakeChambersOy not sure if that could be benefitial, since that might seem like a targeted bot attack. Might be better if everyone comes up with individual messages each.
I sold my XT3 to buy XT4 when it hit the market, just because of the IBIS and the flippy screen. I immediately noticed that the AF is worse than my T3 and i told some of my friends that were using Fuji.. nobody believed me... Since i sold the T3 i couldn't compare them side by side and after a while I thought everything is in my head. Thank you for this video! I doubt they will ever fix this mess, they keep flooding the market with new models with broken AF. The AF must be Fujis top priority...
I had a feeling phase detect wasn't working after seeing how my X-T5 only seems to have it in AF-C single-point mode, up to a 5x5 square, but going to ANY other mode and you are strictly on contrast-detect... Your testing just proved that to me as well. Honestly, I love how the X-T5 handles and feels to use, but the AF DISASTER (and I use that term deliberately) is seriously making me consider selling my Fuji kit and going back to my Sony A7R III, even though the lenses are much bulkier and the camera isn't as nice to use on the street as a Fuji... Sigh... Thank you again for your fantastic work, you're officially the ONLY person on TH-cam that actually holds camera companies, in this case Fuji, accountable!
@ yeah if the A7 V will have 40MP or better + the multi-way screen of the A7R5, my Fuji kit is gone and I’m going back to E-mount… I prefer the noise profile and like some of the film simulations, but those can’t keep me in the Fuji ecosystem if I don’t see some massive improvements to their AF between now and A7 V launch
@ it will likely have less megapickles but a faster readout and hopefully the new multiscreen. I used to own the a74 for about 6 months and the 33mp sensor still produced sharper images than my xt5 as it’s full frame, sold it to get into the Fuji system and that was a big mistake that I still regret today. I do prefer the colors and shooting experience of the xt5 but it gets tiring that you can’t trust the af system even for the most basic of needs
@ honestly, since I still own my A7R3, I might just force myself to use that one again for a while and see how it goes, as yes, being a FF camera it’ll out-perform APS-C, but unfortunately at ISO’s above 3200 the Fuji beats it hands down with cleaner colour reproduction and a more film-like noise pattern, sigh…
Excellent review, once again. It's always a great pleasure and moment to see and hear you. The irony is perfect and makes the points clearer and more convincing
I whipped out my Nikon Z6III to do a quick test of AF speed and tracking with single point and its so smooth and fast (depending on settings). Fuji is SO far behind. The Fuji users that have Sony/Nikon/Canon cameras for video are just plain fooling themselves. They KNOW how bad Fuji AF is right now. Watching the pulsing in every 7.10 test was just hard to watch.
@@thomashill5768 I google searched “Softpedia fujifilm xt3 firmware update 3.00” and I also download the an application called “Hex Fiend” on my computer. Once you download the file for the update. You open hex fiend and drag and drop that firmware file and a bunch of code should appear.
@@thomashill5768 edvard posted a video about it 4 months ago, that same information worked on my xt3. There’s somewhere in the code where it’ll look like “030000 000000” indicating it is firmware 3.00. You’ll want to change the code to something higher than your current camera firmware. My xt3 was on 5.10 and I want to change the code to where the camera will want to upgrade to 5.11. Modified code should be something like “050000 110000”
Thank you, Edvard, for working these issues out and make them public in a very clear and transparent way. It is important to hold a company accountable for worsening the features with firmware update. It's a shame for Fujifilm, which always propagates "Kaizen" Updates and doing the opposite. Also the communication about these issues are totally a total mess. I hope they will finally get their things together and fix these problems as soon as possible. Otherwise, they will lose lots of customers, me included.
Absolutely mental what the video shows. Thank you for your efforts and tests. Sold my X-T5 2 weeks ago. Not just because of autofocus but a bug reason…. I paid good money for a modern camera with features and they should work
I didn't know if this happen to me only , my xt5 seem have false batteray indicator sometimes when batteray still left juice and using after peroid times just telling low power and camera shutdown😅@@Andrey.Balandin
Wow, well done!! Thank you for your efforts in helping Fuji to see the issues with their autofocus so they can improve the cameras we have invested in!! 👏
And you expect Fuji doesn’t know this? They just don’t want to invest in good AF. Retro look, and film simulations is what sell their cameras no good AF
And that’s why I moved XH2 / XH2S & GFX50ii to Nikon Z8 & ZF. It’s nice to stop deleting files on my SD & CF cards due to out of focus.great video and work
Damn this guy is so right in criticizing the firmwares and the team behind AF. Much needed. Someone needs to say this. For a camera to cost 1000+ dollars and not have a working video AF system (which is basic) is unacceptable. Especially when much cheaper and smaller cameras are waaaaay better than this. Coming from a Fuji user. (XE4 -35mm)
It's so weird that we need to point this out. Strange times we live in, where people will sacrifice their belongings and reputation for billion dollar companies that don't give a flying damn about them.
@@SunGee-db3yp it's not strange time as it happens in any point of history. Some people are just more 'loyal' than being functional. We are just in point of time where people can be vocal and heard at any time, just need to post a video or type a comment
To be honest, workable video AF isn‘t basic at all. Canon made it work as the first one. Sony followed, then Nikon and Olympus and very recently Panasonic. It is a very new thing compared to stills AF. Only as of last year it became a new industry standard and Fuji needs to work on that to join the new standard.
@@iursingh So why is Panasonic only since the S5 II competitive? You can very well make the argument that your X-E4 focuses like the Pana GH6, a video powerhouse from 2022. It is not that general. I get your point though, I just disagree that it is basic. Manufacturers struggled for many years with video AF. Once you figure it out, you are save for the future, and I think Fuji is on the brink to figure it out but hasn‘t yet. We‘ll see.
Almost went back to an XH2S for my videography work and content creation. Was tempted by an a6700, bought it and never thought of Fujifilm back again. Never been happier with a camera ever like I am with my A6700.
I noticed the same thing that Peck was talking about on the other Camera Conspiracies channel. He had some string lights in the background and it was SUPER obvious when the focus changes. The step changes seem super amplified when their bright little bokeh balls are changing size all the time.
This was absolutely amazing! Man you did the job of a massive QC team sitting in Fuji's software qc department and showed them how to do their job. They are very incompetent people sitting there and have no clue on what they're doind. Fuji Looks like a big company with too much berucracy and a lot of meetings and no one doing the actual job and caring about the final product (at least in the af department) Fuji should hire you and put you as the lead autofocus department there. You know what you want and it's up to the engineers to deliver.
Excellent analysis, very thorough. I’ve owned Fuji since the original X100 in 2010, and you’ve just covered the sum total of my experiences with Fuji AF in 20 minutes. I now own the X-H2S and a dozen lenses or more, and I agree it’s not the lenses, it’s the firmware.
I'm selling X-T3 with fw 3.3 for $1500. Better AF than any of the latest Fujifilm camera /JK. I'm keep this baby as the Legendary camera that outperform even 2 generations after
Grateful that you are making these videos! I have been using Fujifilm since 2018 and love the system. That is the exact reason why I think this is so important in order to make Fujifilm push the boundaries and become a better version of themselves! Everyone wins! However, it is clear to me now after posting your Part 1 video on the X-H2S FB page that there are many users out there who simply do not get the point and has the mentality of "nah ah, I don't see any problems here, I am not having any trouble, this is great, great, great! How dare you question Fujifilm's performance, clearly you don't know how to use the camera properly!". I love that they all jump to negative assumptions, as if someone was questioning the loyalty of their wife or something - which absolutely isn't an analogy that sits well with this situation at all. Well, thanks to the people who dare question a company's performance and not act like mindless yes-nodding-dolls, are the ones that make sure that a company gets the heat up to actually change things for the BETTER. For the greater good, keep doing what you are doing, Edvard. I am so disappointed in the Fujifilm community (not the entire community obviously, but an alarmingly bigger chunk then I imagined of it)!
It's the same on Fujirumors and other forums. But they will eventually come to their senses. This childish behavior was already noticeable 7 months ago and now it is confirmed that Fuji broke their firmware.
Great job, I wish Fujifilm would see your film and take a look at it. If they hired someone like you for beta testing, maybe they wouldn't release faulty firmware.
@@E3Zombie it happens to me too. I'm trying to move my focus from the subjective sensation of using a tool to the image I see in my mind when taking a photo. I'm trying to move the enjoyment of using a tool to the enjoyment of seeing a composition. But using a camera that you like makes all the process much more seamless. I fully understand your point and in the next months I would maybe sell the Sony for the same reason, but I don't know, I want to try it first
I agree this is incompetence on Fujifilm’s part. They must have the worst beta testing program ever created. I can’t see how this software made it out of alpha testing let alone beta. They’ve gotten to the point where they have just too many moving software parts and they’re pulling levers, hoping that some combination will fix everything. The problem is every time you introduce new code you have to go back and test everything to make sure that it is not affecting other functions.
I was planning to buy a second hand XH2s to replace my XT4 but now I'm convinced to go for an a6700 and sold my fuji gear. Thanks for making these videos.
Hahahaha is that troll still around? I've blocked him a while ago. Guess it's time to unblock him to get some free laughs. The Fujidiots over there won't be convinced anyway.
Why should I? I reported about them within just a few hours. With full and nice recap in which I highlight the issues Edvard found. Why should I have a mental breakdown?
@@catbread2585 so wait… your theory is that I hate Edvard, but even if I hate him, I share his videos, share his findings, and say that his findings are interesting and useful feedback for Fujifilm. So I am talking good about a guy I hate. I share videos of a guy I hate. Your logic is stunning
@@FujiRumorsOfficial Patrick, I’m not sure why you’re not getting this or I’m the one confused, when I said “CameraObscura” is literally a guy in the comment section of your website, not you, I mean, UNLESS you’re the guy that comments in your website that is called “CameraObscura”, not even once I said that about you, I don’t know how to explain this better
The fact you think it is software and not hardware REALLY fills me with hope. I was beginning to think long term I cannot stay with Fujifilm because no matter what next thing comes out next its never going to catch properly up due to bad mount/hardware decision made early on. I genuinely believe Fujifilm are watching you now (how could they not be, only specific bugs YOU reported have been addressed in 7.1), so lets hope they have thick skin, can take a roasting but also have a pen and paper and are taking notes. Let's hope they can apply your findings in future f/w or at the very least future models.
It's a pity you have only 3k subs audience. Your videos are really eyes opening. Big thumbs up for your work. However, the community of Fujifilm users should finally find the way to put those findings on Yuji Igarashi's table, because I suppose nobody in Fujifilm HQ watch youtube videos in english and youtube's algorithm doesn't serve your videos to them. Otherwise I cannot understand how company is not reacting to such roasting for such a long period of time. It's simply self-disrepect for them.
Thank you yet again for the hardwork! You showed enough evidence of where the root cause is and how to reproduce it, just hoping Fujifilm can work as hard as you and implement a proper fix once and for all. And a proper fix for all cameras from X-T3 and up.
Thank you very much for your time and effort. Constructive criticism like yours is greatly appreciated. I hope Fujifilm takes note. I only do photography, and I’m delighted with it, but you’re right that a top-tier camera like the X-H2 still has these “basic” flaws. Hopefully, they’ll listen and adjust the trajectory of the AF.
I think hardware capability (processor) plays a significant role too, not only software. Fujifilm X-Trans sensor is probably much more demanding to process. And I suspect, taking X-H2s as example, when Fuji tried to increase AI features (subject detection etc.) in later firmwares, they shifted a lot of processing power from autofocus to AI, thus handicapping aufofocus further. I don't think Fujifilm can improve autofocus much further, till they introduce a much more powerful processor and phase detection autofocus.
True just like Sony did when they hired Nikon’s main lens engineer, then Sony launched their GM lens series which has been dominating in terms of new optical formulas, sharpness and weight.
Unfortunately, it probably is the case that Fuji's initial development team who got Fuji to their peak performing AF probably left to join Nikon or Panasonic. Those two companies have improved their AF substantially over the last 4 years. This probably left Fuji with the skeleton team.
Incredible video, I truly hope Fujifilm will sort this out fast because I'm actually against my wishes am forced to reconsider staying in this eco system. I don't honestly know how FujiFilm has gotten worse and worse year after year. I don't want to sell my gear but I just can't rely on them for my business and it's too much headaches since they broke the firmwares. I have like you the T-3 and X-H2s, and a few others, but unlike you I don't have the old firmware. The least they could do is offer us an option of downgrading to a working firmware. Great video brother, I'm a fan !
The question is: why doesn't Fujifilm do this kind of testing before releasing a firmware? It seems incredible, absurd, that every time it's the users who notice the bugs. Since there is no working firmware for the X-T4 I will be forced to sell it.
@@edvard2942 And anyway, I too am sad to have a Fuji that doesn't work. I love the body, I love the files, I love the screen and the viewfinder. Buying an A6700 with a single SD slot, with a poor viewfinder, with fewer controls and with the bother of shooting in RAW and always working in post, I don't like it at all.
There goes X-T3 prices through the roof, thanks a lot Edvard!! ;-) The main problem I have with the AF was that the camera shows the green square on the subject, but the subject was out of focus in the final photo, and on a small screen you have to zoom in to confirm, a waste of time, this is for stills photography. I recently bought a 56mm F/1.2 R WR, and upgraded firmware at the same time, and I could feel the lens continuously hunt in a hard fixed stepping motion rather than smooth transition. I thought there was something wrong with the lens, but now I see that there isn't. I love the images that come out of the X-H2s with various lenses, but I cannot use AF for paid work. I would rather use the GFX system, it is slow but at least it never misses, and the lens AF doesn't hunt and jump like it's on crack.
Thank you for this big work Edvard. I was waiting for this update to know if I upgrade my xt3 with the xh2s but I will stay with my xt3 downgraded to the FW 3.1. I would love to see Fuji sort this issue because like you I have few good lenses and I love the Fuji Colors and use of my xt3. Cross fingers but I am not very optimistic. I am afraid Fuji will loose many customers with this problem.
Wow, I'm just puzzled that the focus system actually worked. But as you said, if the underlying issues are fixed, it could be a fantastic and reliable autofocus again. Maybe they should just throw away the contrast detection part of the code and only focus on phase AF.
Interesting video. I upgraded to fw 4 on my XT3 because it was supposed to have greatly improved the autofocus. I use single point rather than continuous autofocus. It seems to work fairly well when the subject is well lit. I understand from your excellent video that it is not worthwhile upgrading to the latest firmware.
That's why the XH1 is the only Fuji I still own. I never thought it was perfect, but it looks a lot better than this. I had an XS20 but sold it a little after 1 month since the focus was very bad.
Kaizen is dead especially for lesser series. Even X-T5 got demoted to 2nd class now. I don't even have any expectations anymore for any sort of fix for X-T4 (or even X-T3)
"Top notch autofocus" I guess I'm staying on 5.11 then - I only use multi because face detection tends to detect faces everywhere but on the main face. Thanks for the hard testing work Edvard!
It's such a shame... i love everything about my X-T4 but AF. And with release of new platform, it probably will never get fixed. If they could at least give us some frankenstein X-T3 v3 + X-T4 firmware. Seriously fire entire AF department, it would be better if they did nothing for the last 5 years.
excellent work you put into that video. Got the X-H2S and am struggling. Being a "fanboy" of the ergonomics (old school dials) and picture quality - I find myself looking for other brands. Sony in particular. Fuji: get it fixed please.
Those who object to this video are pure fanboys. The more who show the issues of AF on Fuji's, the more pressure Fuji will be under to finally get their act together and give AF that is as reliable and user friendly as other brands. If not, users who buy into the system, then gets dissapointed, and then told they are the problem, will leave the system for good and so then later, Fuji stops making cameras
A real fanboy wants Fuji to succeed and to do that they need a great and reliable autofocus. So anyone who neglects the obvious issues isn't a real fanboy. 🤷♂
I cant believe they dont know about this before they release. This is a camera company that releases firmware with obscure fixes for all sorts of things all the time. The focus issue is not an "obscure" problem, it's obvious. So they know about it but dont know how to fix it and keep quiet. Which is pretty shocking really. Not because companies dont do this (they do this all the time). But because we see Fujifilm as pretty good technically. It's not a cheap camera company. So the fact they cant do this basic stuff in 2024 whereas every other camera company has nailed it (Panasonic, Canon, Sony and Nikon) makes you think the whole framework they have been building these camera firmwares on is flawed. And the only real fix is a completely rewritten firmware. Which will take years. But they cant say that. CAF tracking on any image is a fixed issue in the tech world. I'm sure there are opebn source C++ libraries all over the place that can do it. No one else has a big problem with it but Fujifilm. The funny thing is, when I tried a GH7 with my old as hell, 20mm f1.7 m43 lens, CAF was perfect! And that has one of the loudest and slowest motors around. So it's never been any lens that stops this working. It's always software. This is crazy from Fujifilm. You cant charge £2.5K for these cameras lol. Not for video work in 2024.
Thank you so much for your call out with the existing problem. Seems like AF still works mostly on contrast detection, which is very very bad. I upgrade to firmware 7.10 the first hour it was released and test it out. I can live with that but not impress and always waiting for your video to point out the problem that I or another people have not seen. I hope Fujifilm saw your video. You know Corpo always has first priority to fix problem which was mostly call out by an social media influencer, which is also sad. Ps. I think I should downgrade my X-T3 to firmware 3!
I wanted to buy the xt3 but i think i will keep my xpro2 for longer,even if it doesn t have all the features of more modern cameras ,but i think the autofocus on xpro2,xt2,xt20 ,xe2 was perfect for what it was...one big problem that i encountered all the time was the worming efect on all fujifilm cameras,even using iridient or capture onr didn t change much. Nice video! And thanks for pure information and solid facts about the problems you encounter with fujifilm gear
Thanks for this video. Can’t make it any clearer how broken the Fuji AF is. I’m five years, two bodies and nine lenses into the ecosystem but no more. Can’t afford to jump to Sony at this time, and it’s such a shame given the pleasing look and ergonomics of Fuji cameras, but working AF is non-negotiable.
AF was the main reason I have sold my Fuji. I liked the ergonomics and the Fuji picture science. But the AF was so frustrating, I was completaly fed up.I have switched to another brand and gues what? I am happy. If they solve the AF problem and it will remain useable for other 2 or 3 firmware updates I will get back to Fuji.
I now need to check where my firmware is on my xt3. I use the sigma 18-35 for video and I really don't see these issues and I usually use Multi. Maybe it's a good thing I haven't upgraded yet. Might test it for myself to see haha! Thanks for these videos.
I think this is enough and we need no more review about Fujifilm AF. Let's see how they will handle this serious problem they have made. Btw, thanks very much for your effort to make these reviews.
I mean this video is more than enough for us and Fujifilm to understand what is happening to the AF system. Unless other reviewers can find out something new, more videos about Fujifilm AF make no sense from now on, TBH.
Multi seem to focus better than xh2s on xt2 when subject has less contrast than background 💀. Seems like new firmwares use mainly contrast points, not phase ones. This whole situation reminds me of the X-TRANS 1 where there were no phase points whatsoever I use xt2 and it’s AF buggs me but when I saw Fuji’s new stuff, I appreciated xt2 more.
Funny, X-T3 version 3.0 was so exciting at the time with the “finally fixed” autofocus, well it wasn’t and 5 years later still isn’t lol. I remember trying to record a podcast with 3.0 and it focus pulsed maybe 3-4 times in the space of a 30 minute video, unusable :(
Great couple of videos, you went really in depth on the investigation. I'm still on an X-T2 and use it for photography, however I share similar sentiment with you regarding firmware upgrades leading to autofocus downgrades. In my experience, using the autofocus on S mode, on single point mode (don't bother with face or eye, I think it was never performant enough on the X-T2) I find that even though the camera confirms focus with the "green box" or beep sound, occasionally images do come out out-of-focus, this appears started to happen after the firmware upgrades but I'm not sure exactly which one. Now you could blame this on user error, ( ok fujifan boy 😉) but in the out-of-focus images I struggle to find any planes in focus, it's like its focused on the extremes either infinity or the the min focusing distance where nothing in the frame is in focus. Anyway just sharing here in-case it helps you with your investigation or if anyone else has experienced anything similar?
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I think this is the core problem why fujifilm cameras have bad autofocus. The flying eye , hand detection were nothing compared to this.
I get a lof of comments asking where to find all old firmwares for all cameras here www.touslesdrivers.com/index.php?v_page=26&v_code=319
@@edvard2942 I agree, I’ve always suspected phase-detect didn’t work right; going from 425 available focus points in single-point mode down to 117 points in ANY other mode was a BIG red flag, and performance tests I did myself bore that out, and now your tests conclusively confirm it.
or maybe it's due to their AF sensor design?
@@GungKrisna12 I read a comment saying it's due the processor and we would see improvements with the next gen processor
@@amermeleitor that's what they say on each generation
@@JakeChambersOy 😅 true, but the guy said that he got the info from an insider in Fuji... Who knows...
This is one of the best videos on cameras and Fuji I’ve ever watched, and I’ve seen a lot. It deserves to be seen by Fuji’s CEO and should be featured alongside every official Fuji TH-cam video and any content made by those spouting nonsense about Fuji cameras.
I own many cameras, including the A7RV, ZVE1, A6700, A7CII, Canon R10, Nikon Zfc, Fuji X100V, and, as of last week, the XM5. The XM5’s marketing pitches it as ideal for video blogging, but its focus makes it completely unsuitable for that. It’s like a Porsche with a powerful engine but a wobbly steering wheel: hugely disappointing.
Like you, I’ve tested a variety of lenses, but as we both know, the problem isn’t the lenses. The issue is poor software. The hardware: fast processor, sensor, etc.-is on par with other brands, so there’s no excuse.
Your video needs more attention. If I’d seen it sooner, I wouldn’t have wasted my money on the XM5.
I dont even own fujifilm anymore. I be watching these firmware update videos for entertainment😂
Never owned Fuji (Canon instead) and I too love watching these. LOL
Same here 🤣
Me three 🤣
I have Sony, so this is also entertainment for me.
Thanks god, I am not a videographer in Fujifilm ecosystem.
Panasonic's curse went to Fujifilm
EVERYONE, THIS IS THE VIDEO TO SEND TO FUJIFILM IF YOU WANT BETTER AF FOR VIDEO.
We won't have better AF if we only leave comments on TH-cam videos. We have to push further!
Now if only someone would do the same extensive testing for photo AF.
If you have good video AF (video is 30 pictures/second) you also have good stills af. :D
@edvard2942 I think you are right on the money. Looking forward to part 3!
We should formulate an email so the community can copy paste it, simply put your name under and send to Fuji Japan, UK, US, Germany...
@@JakeChambersOy not sure if that could be benefitial, since that might seem like a targeted bot attack. Might be better if everyone comes up with individual messages each.
@@lionheart4424 I did send it to Yuji
I sold my XT3 to buy XT4 when it hit the market, just because of the IBIS and the flippy screen. I immediately noticed that the AF is worse than my T3 and i told some of my friends that were using Fuji.. nobody believed me... Since i sold the T3 i couldn't compare them side by side and after a while I thought everything is in my head.
Thank you for this video!
I doubt they will ever fix this mess, they keep flooding the market with new models with broken AF. The AF must be Fujis top priority...
I had a feeling phase detect wasn't working after seeing how my X-T5 only seems to have it in AF-C single-point mode, up to a 5x5 square, but going to ANY other mode and you are strictly on contrast-detect... Your testing just proved that to me as well. Honestly, I love how the X-T5 handles and feels to use, but the AF DISASTER (and I use that term deliberately) is seriously making me consider selling my Fuji kit and going back to my Sony A7R III, even though the lenses are much bulkier and the camera isn't as nice to use on the street as a Fuji... Sigh... Thank you again for your fantastic work, you're officially the ONLY person on TH-cam that actually holds camera companies, in this case Fuji, accountable!
Same here my a7r3 had a better af system, I am switching to Sony once they launch the a75 or maybe the Nikon z6III
@ yeah if the A7 V will have 40MP or better + the multi-way screen of the A7R5, my Fuji kit is gone and I’m going back to E-mount… I prefer the noise profile and like some of the film simulations, but those can’t keep me in the Fuji ecosystem if I don’t see some massive improvements to their AF between now and A7 V launch
@ it will likely have less megapickles but a faster readout and hopefully the new multiscreen. I used to own the a74 for about 6 months and the 33mp sensor still produced sharper images than my xt5 as it’s full frame, sold it to get into the Fuji system and that was a big mistake that I still regret today. I do prefer the colors and shooting experience of the xt5 but it gets tiring that you can’t trust the af system even for the most basic of needs
@ honestly, since I still own my A7R3, I might just force myself to use that one again for a while and see how it goes, as yes, being a FF camera it’ll out-perform APS-C, but unfortunately at ISO’s above 3200 the Fuji beats it hands down with cleaner colour reproduction and a more film-like noise pattern, sigh…
@ yeah I agree the noise pattern from the xt5 is nice
Excellent review, once again. It's always a great pleasure and moment to see and hear you. The irony is perfect and makes the points clearer and more convincing
I whipped out my Nikon Z6III to do a quick test of AF speed and tracking with single point and its so smooth and fast (depending on settings). Fuji is SO far behind. The Fuji users that have Sony/Nikon/Canon cameras for video are just plain fooling themselves. They KNOW how bad Fuji AF is right now. Watching the pulsing in every 7.10 test was just hard to watch.
Even my Nikon Zfc is ages ahead , its not even funny at this point
I “downgraded” the firmware on my xt3 and this camera feels so much better. So glad you make vids like this
how did you do this? what is the effect on stills?
Yes, could you please inform us on how it’s done and what are the differences on stills autofocus?
@@thomashill5768 I google searched “Softpedia fujifilm xt3 firmware update 3.00” and I also download the an application called “Hex Fiend” on my computer.
Once you download the file for the update. You open hex fiend and drag and drop that firmware file and a bunch of code should appear.
Do you know where we can find the Firmware 3.0 or 3.2? thanks!
@@thomashill5768 edvard posted a video about it 4 months ago, that same information worked on my xt3.
There’s somewhere in the code where it’ll look like “030000 000000” indicating it is firmware 3.00. You’ll want to change the code to something higher than your current camera firmware.
My xt3 was on 5.10 and I want to change the code to where the camera will want to upgrade to 5.11. Modified code should be something like “050000 110000”
Thank you, Edvard, for working these issues out and make them public in a very clear and transparent way. It is important to hold a company accountable for worsening the features with firmware update. It's a shame for Fujifilm, which always propagates "Kaizen" Updates and doing the opposite. Also the communication about these issues are totally a total mess. I hope they will finally get their things together and fix these problems as soon as possible. Otherwise, they will lose lots of customers, me included.
Absolutely mental what the video shows. Thank you for your efforts and tests.
Sold my X-T5 2 weeks ago. Not just because of autofocus but a bug reason…. I paid good money for a modern camera with features and they should work
Which bug? Please share! I'm looking to recommend XT5 to my friend.
I didn't know if this happen to me only , my xt5 seem have false batteray indicator sometimes when batteray still left juice and using after peroid times just telling low power and camera shutdown😅@@Andrey.Balandin
@@nandysullivan3005 How do you know the indicator is false?
@@nandysullivan3005 are you using Fuji original battery or 3rd party? I've never seen that sort of behavior in original, only in 3rd party.
Wow, well done!! Thank you for your efforts in helping Fuji to see the issues with their autofocus so they can improve the cameras we have invested in!! 👏
Maybe now you've discovered where it all went wrong, Fujifilm can go back and rehire the devs from back then
They quit because of overtime lol.
And low payment
And you expect Fuji doesn’t know this? They just don’t want to invest in good AF. Retro look, and film simulations is what sell their cameras no good AF
@@kicyiualso they just announced the development of a cinema camera
@@kicyiu Well, it would be a perfect system if it had a working autofocus.
And that’s why I moved XH2 / XH2S & GFX50ii to Nikon Z8 & ZF. It’s nice to stop deleting files on my SD & CF cards due to out of focus.great video and work
You do a great job of explaining this with examples so that a simple hobbyist like me can understand.
Thank you for the video.
You killed them, but they are still gonna hate because of brain fog.
Thank you for fighting this fight!
Damn this guy is so right in criticizing the firmwares and the team behind AF.
Much needed. Someone needs to say this. For a camera to cost 1000+ dollars and not have a working video AF system (which is basic) is unacceptable. Especially when much cheaper and smaller cameras are waaaaay better than this.
Coming from a Fuji user. (XE4 -35mm)
It's so weird that we need to point this out. Strange times we live in, where people will sacrifice their belongings and reputation for billion dollar companies that don't give a flying damn about them.
@@SunGee-db3yp it's not strange time as it happens in any point of history. Some people are just more 'loyal' than being functional.
We are just in point of time where people can be vocal and heard at any time, just need to post a video or type a comment
To be honest, workable video AF isn‘t basic at all. Canon made it work as the first one. Sony followed, then Nikon and Olympus and very recently Panasonic. It is a very new thing compared to stills AF. Only as of last year it became a new industry standard and Fuji needs to work on that to join the new standard.
@@andreasbuder4417 My fuji XE4 focuses like a camera from 2012.
So no, its not that new, it has been very basic for many years now.
@@iursingh So why is Panasonic only since the S5 II competitive? You can very well make the argument that your X-E4 focuses like the Pana GH6, a video powerhouse from 2022. It is not that general. I get your point though, I just disagree that it is basic. Manufacturers struggled for many years with video AF. Once you figure it out, you are save for the future, and I think Fuji is on the brink to figure it out but hasn‘t yet. We‘ll see.
Almost went back to an XH2S for my videography work and content creation. Was tempted by an a6700, bought it and never thought of Fujifilm back again. Never been happier with a camera ever like I am with my A6700.
I noticed the same thing that Peck was talking about on the other Camera Conspiracies channel. He had some string lights in the background and it was SUPER obvious when the focus changes. The step changes seem super amplified when their bright little bokeh balls are changing size all the time.
This was absolutely amazing! Man you did the job of a massive QC team sitting in Fuji's software qc department and showed them how to do their job. They are very incompetent people sitting there and have no clue on what they're doind. Fuji Looks like a big company with too much berucracy and a lot of meetings and no one doing the actual job and caring about the final product (at least in the af department)
Fuji should hire you and put you as the lead autofocus department there. You know what you want and it's up to the engineers to deliver.
Excellent analysis, very thorough. I’ve owned Fuji since the original X100 in 2010, and you’ve just covered the sum total of my experiences with Fuji AF in 20 minutes. I now own the X-H2S and a dozen lenses or more, and I agree it’s not the lenses, it’s the firmware.
I'm selling X-T3 with fw 3.3 for $1500.
Better AF than any of the latest Fujifilm camera
/JK. I'm keep this baby as the Legendary camera that outperform even 2 generations after
Grateful that you are making these videos! I have been using Fujifilm since 2018 and love the system. That is the exact reason why I think this is so important in order to make Fujifilm push the boundaries and become a better version of themselves! Everyone wins! However, it is clear to me now after posting your Part 1 video on the X-H2S FB page that there are many users out there who simply do not get the point and has the mentality of "nah ah, I don't see any problems here, I am not having any trouble, this is great, great, great! How dare you question Fujifilm's performance, clearly you don't know how to use the camera properly!". I love that they all jump to negative assumptions, as if someone was questioning the loyalty of their wife or something - which absolutely isn't an analogy that sits well with this situation at all. Well, thanks to the people who dare question a company's performance and not act like mindless yes-nodding-dolls, are the ones that make sure that a company gets the heat up to actually change things for the BETTER. For the greater good, keep doing what you are doing, Edvard. I am so disappointed in the Fujifilm community (not the entire community obviously, but an alarmingly bigger chunk then I imagined of it)!
It's the same on Fujirumors and other forums. But they will eventually come to their senses. This childish behavior was already noticeable 7 months ago and now it is confirmed that Fuji broke their firmware.
I guess that's how they get to improved the battery life. They reduce the processing power that drives the motor and only uses contrast detection 😀
This might be actually true 🤦♂
Great job, I wish Fujifilm would see your film and take a look at it.
If they hired someone like you for beta testing, maybe they wouldn't release faulty firmware.
Hell of a work my friend, we need more people like you...
Guess I’m keeping my XT-3.
downgrade it to fw3.
@@edvard2942 could you please send a link one more time to tutorial how to downgrade - I have to do this on my X-t3
@ you can download the firmware from toulesdriver website, modify the hex to be like 6.0 or something
Perhaps I will! Shame as I like the features with the new firmware 😢
@@edvard2942 will it work with 18-120 lense on FW3?
I’ve been with Fuji since 2013 and I’ve never been more tempted to leave to another brand. Nikon is looking really nice
Nikon is great. My only problem with Nikon is that the cameras are BIG. That's why I will go with Sony, smaller cameras and lenses
@ Totally understand but for me I feel like when I pick up a Sony I’m holding a computer not a camera very subjective thing though
@@E3Zombie it happens to me too. I'm trying to move my focus from the subjective sensation of using a tool to the image I see in my mind when taking a photo. I'm trying to move the enjoyment of using a tool to the enjoyment of seeing a composition. But using a camera that you like makes all the process much more seamless. I fully understand your point and in the next months I would maybe sell the Sony for the same reason, but I don't know, I want to try it first
Bravo pour ton travail Edvard ! Continue !
I agree this is incompetence on Fujifilm’s part. They must have the worst beta testing program ever created. I can’t see how this software made it out of alpha testing let alone beta. They’ve gotten to the point where they have just too many moving software parts and they’re pulling levers, hoping that some combination will fix everything. The problem is every time you introduce new code you have to go back and test everything to make sure that it is not affecting other functions.
Edvard woke up and chose violence that day.
@@TrekCZ He pulled a Kill Bill, and I’m waiting for part 3 😈
Superb video that simply demonstrates the problem with Fuji AF.
I hope Fujifilm are watching and taking notes.
I was planning to buy a second hand XH2s to replace my XT4 but now I'm convinced to go for an a6700 and sold my fuji gear. Thanks for making these videos.
CameraObscura on Fujirumors will have a mental breakdown from your videos 😂
Hahahaha is that troll still around? I've blocked him a while ago. Guess it's time to unblock him to get some free laughs. The Fujidiots over there won't be convinced anyway.
Why should I? I reported about them within just a few hours. With full and nice recap in which I highlight the issues Edvard found. Why should I have a mental breakdown?
@ CameraObscura is a member in the chat of the website, extremely toxic guy that hates Edvard, unless you’re secretly him, I didn’t mean you, Patrick
@@catbread2585 so wait… your theory is that I hate Edvard, but even if I hate him, I share his videos, share his findings, and say that his findings are interesting and useful feedback for Fujifilm.
So I am talking good about a guy I hate. I share videos of a guy I hate. Your logic is stunning
@@FujiRumorsOfficial Patrick, I’m not sure why you’re not getting this or I’m the one confused, when I said “CameraObscura” is literally a guy in the comment section of your website, not you, I mean, UNLESS you’re the guy that comments in your website that is called “CameraObscura”, not even once I said that about you, I don’t know how to explain this better
Thank you for your work edvard👍
The fact you think it is software and not hardware REALLY fills me with hope. I was beginning to think long term I cannot stay with Fujifilm because no matter what next thing comes out next its never going to catch properly up due to bad mount/hardware decision made early on.
I genuinely believe Fujifilm are watching you now (how could they not be, only specific bugs YOU reported have been addressed in 7.1), so lets hope they have thick skin, can take a roasting but also have a pen and paper and are taking notes. Let's hope they can apply your findings in future f/w or at the very least future models.
I love you Edvard😘(X-H2S user)
Well done, Edvard 👏
Very goog comparison! Pls, keep going like this until they understand!
It's a pity you have only 3k subs audience. Your videos are really eyes opening. Big thumbs up for your work. However, the community of Fujifilm users should finally find the way to put those findings on Yuji Igarashi's table, because I suppose nobody in Fujifilm HQ watch youtube videos in english and youtube's algorithm doesn't serve your videos to them. Otherwise I cannot understand how company is not reacting to such roasting for such a long period of time. It's simply self-disrepect for them.
Thank you yet again for the hardwork! You showed enough evidence of where the root cause is and how to reproduce it, just hoping Fujifilm can work as hard as you and implement a proper fix once and for all. And a proper fix for all cameras from X-T3 and up.
These are good videos, I hope Fujifilm is watching 👌
I will only say.. Fujifilm CEO - mr. Goto should watch this video every single day in the morning, before he will go out to work :)
Thank you very much for your time and effort. Constructive criticism like yours is greatly appreciated. I hope Fujifilm takes note. I only do photography, and I’m delighted with it, but you’re right that a top-tier camera like the X-H2 still has these “basic” flaws. Hopefully, they’ll listen and adjust the trajectory of the AF.
"Are you impressed?" - Actually I am! How's this still possible is mind blowing. Good work - on your side, not Fujifilm though (sadly).
Yes bro do a part three. You're not ready
I think hardware capability (processor) plays a significant role too, not only software. Fujifilm X-Trans sensor is probably much more demanding to process. And I suspect, taking X-H2s as example, when Fuji tried to increase AI features (subject detection etc.) in later firmwares, they shifted a lot of processing power from autofocus to AI, thus handicapping aufofocus further. I don't think Fujifilm can improve autofocus much further, till they introduce a much more powerful processor and phase detection autofocus.
That was a bloody good demonstration of CDAF and PDAF!!!
Great video. Lets wait for those non technical guys saying it is your skill.
Fuji should just hire Sony autofocus engineers, before everyone jumps ship.
True just like Sony did when they hired Nikon’s main lens engineer, then Sony launched their GM lens series which has been dominating in terms of new optical formulas, sharpness and weight.
Unfortunately, it probably is the case that Fuji's initial development team who got Fuji to their peak performing AF probably left to join Nikon or Panasonic. Those two companies have improved their AF substantially over the last 4 years. This probably left Fuji with the skeleton team.
Good work. Thank you Edvard, for this! 👍🏻🤗
Very detailed information and analysis of the AF zaga good job! just subscribed
Incredible video, I truly hope Fujifilm will sort this out fast because I'm actually against my wishes am forced to reconsider staying in this eco system. I don't honestly know how FujiFilm has gotten worse and worse year after year. I don't want to sell my gear but I just can't rely on them for my business and it's too much headaches since they broke the firmwares. I have like you the T-3 and X-H2s, and a few others, but unlike you I don't have the old firmware. The least they could do is offer us an option of downgrading to a working firmware. Great video brother, I'm a fan !
That you Edvard for your work and effort.
The question is: why doesn't Fujifilm do this kind of testing before releasing a firmware? It seems incredible, absurd, that every time it's the users who notice the bugs.
Since there is no working firmware for the X-T4 I will be forced to sell it.
@@Probabilmente million dollar question
@@edvard2942 And anyway, I too am sad to have a Fuji that doesn't work. I love the body, I love the files, I love the screen and the viewfinder. Buying an A6700 with a single SD slot, with a poor viewfinder, with fewer controls and with the bother of shooting in RAW and always working in post, I don't like it at all.
There goes X-T3 prices through the roof, thanks a lot Edvard!! ;-) The main problem I have with the AF was that the camera shows the green square on the subject, but the subject was out of focus in the final photo, and on a small screen you have to zoom in to confirm, a waste of time, this is for stills photography. I recently bought a 56mm F/1.2 R WR, and upgraded firmware at the same time, and I could feel the lens continuously hunt in a hard fixed stepping motion rather than smooth transition. I thought there was something wrong with the lens, but now I see that there isn't. I love the images that come out of the X-H2s with various lenses, but I cannot use AF for paid work. I would rather use the GFX system, it is slow but at least it never misses, and the lens AF doesn't hunt and jump like it's on crack.
Thank you for this big work Edvard. I was waiting for this update to know if I upgrade my xt3 with the xh2s but I will stay with my xt3 downgraded to the FW 3.1. I would love to see Fuji sort this issue because like you I have few good lenses and I love the Fuji Colors and use of my xt3. Cross fingers but I am not very optimistic. I am afraid Fuji will loose many customers with this problem.
Wow, I'm just puzzled that the focus system actually worked. But as you said, if the underlying issues are fixed, it could be a fantastic and reliable autofocus again. Maybe they should just throw away the contrast detection part of the code and only focus on phase AF.
Interesting video. I upgraded to fw 4 on my XT3 because it was supposed to have greatly improved the autofocus. I use single point rather than continuous autofocus. It seems to work fairly well when the subject is well lit. I understand from your excellent video that it is not worthwhile upgrading to the latest firmware.
Thanks, really appreciate the analysis. Still waiting for Fujifilm to fix my X-H2S.
That's why the XH1 is the only Fuji I still own. I never thought it was perfect, but it looks a lot better than this. I had an XS20 but sold it a little after 1 month since the focus was very bad.
iamtounge explained to me about the pulsating thing so now i know what everyone else was talking about.
You are so brilliant Edvard.. keep on doing this until they fix the AF issues..
Keep up the real work Edvard. You are the real Fuji fanboy. Also Fuji please give AF updates to XS10. #Kaizen
Kaizen is dead especially for lesser series. Even X-T5 got demoted to 2nd class now. I don't even have any expectations anymore for any sort of fix for X-T4 (or even X-T3)
"Top notch autofocus"
I guess I'm staying on 5.11 then - I only use multi because face detection tends to detect faces everywhere but on the main face. Thanks for the hard testing work Edvard!
Multi even focuses on a cigarette smoke on 4-5fw lol haha, let that sink it.
It's such a shame... i love everything about my X-T4 but AF.
And with release of new platform, it probably will never get fixed.
If they could at least give us some frankenstein X-T3 v3 + X-T4 firmware.
Seriously fire entire AF department, it would be better if they did nothing for the last 5 years.
100% Whoevers in charge of AF should be fired.
This is the point where Fujifilm should actually start paying you for doing their job
My Rolleiflex has more reliable autofocus than my Fujis
Same
excellent work you put into that video. Got the X-H2S and am struggling. Being a "fanboy" of the ergonomics (old school dials) and picture quality - I find myself looking for other brands. Sony in particular. Fuji: get it fixed please.
Weldone and thanks for this deep test....Fuji should correct all this ,else we will move on
Those who object to this video are pure fanboys. The more who show the issues of AF on Fuji's, the more pressure Fuji will be under to finally get their act together and give AF that is as reliable and user friendly as other brands. If not, users who buy into the system, then gets dissapointed, and then told they are the problem, will leave the system for good and so then later, Fuji stops making cameras
A real fanboy wants Fuji to succeed and to do that they need a great and reliable autofocus. So anyone who neglects the obvious issues isn't a real fanboy. 🤷♂
I cant believe they dont know about this before they release. This is a camera company that releases firmware with obscure fixes for all sorts of things all the time. The focus issue is not an "obscure" problem, it's obvious. So they know about it but dont know how to fix it and keep quiet. Which is pretty shocking really. Not because companies dont do this (they do this all the time). But because we see Fujifilm as pretty good technically. It's not a cheap camera company. So the fact they cant do this basic stuff in 2024 whereas every other camera company has nailed it (Panasonic, Canon, Sony and Nikon) makes you think the whole framework they have been building these camera firmwares on is flawed. And the only real fix is a completely rewritten firmware. Which will take years. But they cant say that.
CAF tracking on any image is a fixed issue in the tech world. I'm sure there are opebn source C++ libraries all over the place that can do it. No one else has a big problem with it but Fujifilm. The funny thing is, when I tried a GH7 with my old as hell, 20mm f1.7 m43 lens, CAF was perfect! And that has one of the loudest and slowest motors around. So it's never been any lens that stops this working. It's always software. This is crazy from Fujifilm. You cant charge £2.5K for these cameras lol. Not for video work in 2024.
felt lucky for keeping my beloved xt3
Thank you so much for your call out with the existing problem. Seems like AF still works mostly on contrast detection, which is very very bad. I upgrade to firmware 7.10 the first hour it was released and test it out. I can live with that but not impress and always waiting for your video to point out the problem that I or another people have not seen. I hope Fujifilm saw your video. You know Corpo always has first priority to fix problem which was mostly call out by an social media influencer, which is also sad.
Ps. I think I should downgrade my X-T3 to firmware 3!
I wanted to buy the xt3 but i think i will keep my xpro2 for longer,even if it doesn t have all the features of more modern cameras ,but i think the autofocus on xpro2,xt2,xt20 ,xe2 was perfect for what it was...one big problem that i encountered all the time was the worming efect on all fujifilm cameras,even using iridient or capture onr didn t change much. Nice video! And thanks for pure information and solid facts about the problems you encounter with fujifilm gear
Excellent Testing !
Thanks for this video. Can’t make it any clearer how broken the Fuji AF is. I’m five years, two bodies and nine lenses into the ecosystem but no more. Can’t afford to jump to Sony at this time, and it’s such a shame given the pleasing look and ergonomics of Fuji cameras, but working AF is non-negotiable.
great tests, really nothing to critisize here. Hopefully fujifilm sees that and fixes
AF was the main reason I have sold my Fuji. I liked the ergonomics and the Fuji picture science. But the AF was so frustrating, I was completaly fed up.I have switched to another brand and gues what? I am happy.
If they solve the AF problem and it will remain useable for other 2 or 3 firmware updates I will get back to Fuji.
"I convinced you. No? Okay..." 🤣 Best Part.
Wouldn't it be possible to organize a petition or create an email template to send en masse to Fuji? Haha, that would be the best thing to do
I now need to check where my firmware is on my xt3. I use the sigma 18-35 for video and I really don't see these issues and I usually use Multi. Maybe it's a good thing I haven't upgraded yet. Might test it for myself to see haha! Thanks for these videos.
I think this is enough and we need no more review about Fujifilm AF. Let's see how they will handle this serious problem they have made. Btw, thanks very much for your effort to make these reviews.
If we don't have more videos on this Fuji will simply ignore the problem, the more people complain the more likely Fuji are to do something.
I mean this video is more than enough for us and Fujifilm to understand what is happening to the AF system. Unless other reviewers can find out something new, more videos about Fujifilm AF make no sense from now on, TBH.
I switched to Fuji for the ergonomics and the film simulation recipes. What's the point of having that if I can't get a reliable autofocus?
Bravo din nou!🎉
Where can I download firmware version 3.0? Thank you for your help.
Multi seem to focus better than xh2s on xt2 when subject has less contrast than background 💀. Seems like new firmwares use mainly contrast points, not phase ones. This whole situation reminds me of the X-TRANS 1 where there were no phase points whatsoever
I use xt2 and it’s AF buggs me but when I saw Fuji’s new stuff, I appreciated xt2 more.
its kinda like they downgraded from a machine gun to a revolver
Every time i think about going to fuji i watch your videos and say nah!!
Thank you for your work!!! Fujifilm is to blame for the autofocus, the software.
Thank you so much for putting in all this work when you could be putting this time into client work and be getting paid 💸
i'm leaving the gym and will start fujifilm focus testing as exercise
hahaa , Yes, I did cardio with those tests
Funny, X-T3 version 3.0 was so exciting at the time with the “finally fixed” autofocus, well it wasn’t and 5 years later still isn’t lol. I remember trying to record a podcast with 3.0 and it focus pulsed maybe 3-4 times in the space of a 30 minute video, unusable :(
Sold my XT-5 for a Lumix S5II - loved fuji color science but best decision ever. Thanks for keeping them accountable
I was going to "upgrade" my XT3 to an XH2S. Not anymore! Looks like I'll be "downgrading" it to FW 3. So much for kaizen....
Sadly kaizen dies after new CEO comes
Doing god's work here. Hopefully fuji listens
Great video. Thanks for the hard work
Great couple of videos, you went really in depth on the investigation. I'm still on an X-T2 and use it for photography, however I share similar sentiment with you regarding firmware upgrades leading to autofocus downgrades.
In my experience, using the autofocus on S mode, on single point mode (don't bother with face or eye, I think it was never performant enough on the X-T2) I find that even though the camera confirms focus with the "green box" or beep sound, occasionally images do come out out-of-focus, this appears started to happen after the firmware upgrades but I'm not sure exactly which one. Now you could blame this on user error, ( ok fujifan boy 😉) but in the out-of-focus images I struggle to find any planes in focus, it's like its focused on the extremes either infinity or the the min focusing distance where nothing in the frame is in focus. Anyway just sharing here in-case it helps you with your investigation or if anyone else has experienced anything similar?