Does Medium Format Suck? Medium Format vs APS-C: Fujifilm X-H2S vs GFX 50S Review

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  • @artsmodelstation9396
    @artsmodelstation9396 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I visited a photo art gallery in Los Angeles and saw amazing photos, scratch that, art work, with my son. When we were done my son asked why I didn’t wonder about camera they used. Told him I was just in awe and caught up in the moment. When u see a photograph and u can stand there for a while. That’s good photography.

    • @bytomw
      @bytomw  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I’d agree.
      Cameras are fun, they enable us to craft the way an image looks but ultimately I really do think that should only matter to the person making the photo.
      My portfolio is made over years and multiple camera systems.
      In the end it all just looks like me.

  • @michaellong9526
    @michaellong9526 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I bought the Mitakon 65 mm f1.4 for my GFX 50Sll. Quite heavy, an actual sensor size coverage for medium format, but despite what many seem to report on it I found it fairly straight forward to manual focus with peaking and punching in magnification. My lens is very sharp but dof is extremely narrow so I think many attribute softness to the lens, very nice roll off to the dof. Equates to a 50/52 mm f 1.0 , I think? It really makes you think where to best utilize the lens and that look it’s not an all rounder for sure. Thanks for the video

    • @bytomw
      @bytomw  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have been interested in that Mitakon too! I ended up choosing the Voigtlander because it was so much smaller and lighter, I'm ultimately glad I did because I love the combination of a wider field of view and a super fast aperture.
      I don't think you can go wrong with either honestly!
      Thanks for watching.

    • @mikafoxx2717
      @mikafoxx2717 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And the kit might cost less than the legendary EF 50mm F1 and perform much better too..

  • @ShantanuMajumdar-hc4hg
    @ShantanuMajumdar-hc4hg 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    There are so many videos about photography; I have watched lots of them. Few (if any) are as thought-provoking as this! Thank you.

    • @bytomw
      @bytomw  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'm glad it helped! honestly I have been getting a little frustrated with all the gear for it's own sake talk on here. I wanted to provide an alternative.

  • @allanali1906
    @allanali1906 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have to say this video is well done and spot on. I recently acquired a fujifilm gfx 50R and had similar desires to create more character in my images and make my workflow more methodical. What surprised me is how much the freedom of cropping a frame has become enjoyable. For the past few years I have challenged myself to compose for the entire frame… that may have been rooted in my knowledge that apsc files degrade quickly when cropping. I’m enjoying creating new compositions knowing that I can essentially zoom in on my edits with minimal loss of image quality. Currently using my vintage 1980s series e Nikon lenses, the mitakon 65 f1.4 and the gf 50mm f3.5. Love them all for different reasons. The GFX system has been incredibly rewarding thus far and it’s only been just over a month for me.

    • @bytomw
      @bytomw  ปีที่แล้ว

      Not gonna lie that sounds like a lot of fun! I crop almost all my images on the GFX to 67 but not usually to change the reach of lenses. I’ll give it a go for fun 👍🏻

    • @tdawg719
      @tdawg719 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That’s not a medium format thing though.. that’s just high resolution. There’s 40 megapixel crop sensors out there as well as 61 megapixel FF sensors

    • @allanali1906
      @allanali1906 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@tdawg719 that’s true too. It’s one of the benefits for sure for me as someone whose work is rooted in portraiture it’s taking advantage of the depth of field that occurs when you adapt large aperture lenses to a medium format sensor for that extra crop… it’s nice to crop but it’s not the main benefit for my work.

  • @TheJ_G
    @TheJ_G ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Your philosophy around critical focus or lack there of might’ve just snapped me out of my recently relentless pursuit of critical focus. These are wonderful shots, and this was a really fantastic watch. Thanks for sharing!
    Also, great comparison between the sensors. Seems like the main general difference in image quality is how each sensor renders the feel of depth, otherwise they’re almost identical in every other way.

    • @bytomw
      @bytomw  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s a trap we can all fall into. If something can be measured it can be “better” and marketers can use that to make you feel like you need more.
      It’s no wonder we can get caught up with making “perfect” images and sometimes forget that we can use focus as an expressive tool.

  • @ChrisBoultonPhotography
    @ChrisBoultonPhotography ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great vid Tom. I used to shoot all my commercial jobs with a Canon 5D4 and it's a brilliant camera. However I completely vibe with your comment ref working for an image and slowing down. I purchased a used GFX50r and I'm loving it, it sounds cliched but I feel that I'm connecting more and it's a case where a piece of kit has inspired me to do more. The lenses are very sharp and I do 'soften' the look a lot in post. I'll probably start looking at older lenses and maybe that 65mm Mitakon. I use the GFX on 80% of my commercial shoots now, it's surprising how fast and in-tune you can become with even a slower contrast-detect focus system if you practice enough. I'll prob keep my Canon but that XH2s could be a great addition to my Fuji combo.

    • @bytomw
      @bytomw  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The XH2s is honestly under rated. People see the 26mp sensor and assume the 40mp sensor would be a better match, it’s going got to be my fav workhouse camera ever.
      The GFX though is just plain perfect. It’s slow in a really intentional way and it really gives me a sense of connection to my subject. Especially with non-native and 35mm lenses it really shines.
      Fuji have a 55mm 1.7 due out this year and that’s gonna be high on my wish list too.

    • @amermeleitor
      @amermeleitor 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Have you tried to adapt your Canon EF lenses on the Fuji? There are AF adapters but I don't know how well works the combination

  • @XiangchengJi-jr5ux
    @XiangchengJi-jr5ux 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    did u use the internal film simulation for these shots? look really good

    • @bytomw
      @bytomw  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I never use the built in film simulations. These are all edited RAW files. I teach post production

    • @jerryinsc
      @jerryinsc 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@bytomw Do you use any calibration such as Colorchecker Passport or do you just adjust color to suit your eyes?

    • @bytomw
      @bytomw  6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@jerryinsc colour checkers are amazing for getting accurate colour, accurate colour often doesn’t look great.
      I’d use one pretty much only if I needed to be 100% sure of colour accuracy.

    • @jerryinsc
      @jerryinsc 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@bytomw Thanks for your reply. Yes, I guess if you're doing work for hire, say products for advertisement or similar then it would make a difference. For landscapes I like to adjust it to what looks good to me.

  • @MrJoeylikesmusic
    @MrJoeylikesmusic หลายเดือนก่อน

    Does the 58mm cover the sensor ?

    • @bytomw
      @bytomw  หลายเดือนก่อน

      It does. You get some pretty heavy vignette but it’s totally correctable.

  • @MrSolidair
    @MrSolidair ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video Tom! How do you get these nice colors? Do you use a specific preset?

    • @bytomw
      @bytomw  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi! I actually teach colour correction and workflow to professional photographers.
      My colour process is different depending on the job/situation. In this case I was trying to emulate film.

  • @betterpixs
    @betterpixs ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love the narrow DOF that the medium format gives. Using manual focus helps me to slow down and concentrate on what I am shooting too. Anyone prefer to use a tripod, regardless of camera, for the same reason?

    • @bytomw
      @bytomw  ปีที่แล้ว

      I love slowing down but for me I only use tripods for video. For stills I'm 100% about moving to get the frame I want. Love that others work differently though!

  • @jjktng
    @jjktng 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    been watching youtube videos on this same topic, you explained it the best.

    • @bytomw
      @bytomw  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you! I’m glad it helped!

  • @alanjcravophotography4149
    @alanjcravophotography4149 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hi Tom,
    Been pro since 98
    I use two systems… Fujifilm gift 100s/XT5 for my slow artist work… 110 f2 and 23 1.4 ,just 2 lenses
    And i use Nikon Zsystem… i love both, but i use the Nikon for events fast pace enviroments.
    But for my slow pro work i use Fujifilm, love the colours and love medium format look… i have tried to create the Nikon files to look the same or close to the FUJIFILM, and is just not possible, at least for me. Couldn’t agree more with your statement. Great vid

    • @bytomw
      @bytomw  วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks for the kind words! Fuji colours are lovely.

  • @austerepotato3159
    @austerepotato3159 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nice!
    Subscribed!

    • @bytomw
      @bytomw  6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thanks! Hope you enjoy the videos 👌

  • @Bavubuka
    @Bavubuka 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    And are you using any of the film simulations ?

    • @bytomw
      @bytomw  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don’t. I love my final look but it relies on the raw files.

  • @al404
    @al404 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very interesting video but you kind of "cheated" using the 58mm f1.4 because it is a FF manual lens and most of the AF GFX lens are pretty "slow " like Fuji G 63mm f2.8 that is equivalent at FF 50mm f2.2 and there aren't any AF faster options. What lens did you use on X-H2s? Thanks and happy Easter

    • @bytomw
      @bytomw  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The 80mm 1.7 and the upcoming 55mm 1.7 would give more of a shallow depth of field than the current crop of 2.8 primes but honestly I wanted the GFX to have more of a classic rendering.
      The 58mm 1.4 really makes this camera worth it for me honestly.
      I’m using the 33mm 1.4 LM on the XH2s and honestly it’s incredible. Modern performance with plenty of character.

    • @Red-xz1gk
      @Red-xz1gk ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bytomw hi there. I used 35/1.4 on Fuji. Love that lens. Right amount of sharpness and contrast and great microcontrast… not as contrasty like the 35 Fujicrons… when focus close wide open, it has the glow that some older Leica lenses are famous about. For the new 33/1.4, which I don’t own, can you share what character do you see, since you mentioned it has plenty of character. Just try to learn. Thanks.

  • @Motografy
    @Motografy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You said this better than anyone I’ve heard speak about digital medium format. I just picked up a Hasselblad X1Dii in 2024 and I absolutely love the experience. Subbed 👊

    • @bytomw
      @bytomw  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks man! I try and be as balanced as possible. Hope you enjoy the channel.

    • @Motografy
      @Motografy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bytomw enjoying it! Listening to the other “podcast” types. Not enough conversations about real photography these days

    • @bytomw
      @bytomw  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hopefully it’s helpful. I had to slow down because work picked up in a big way but I’ll be back to talking to photographers ASAP.

    • @Motografy
      @Motografy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bytomw that’s a good thing! Looking forward to more medium format stuff for sure!

  • @MikeLikesChannel
    @MikeLikesChannel ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I shot a Fuji GA645 for *years* until Kodak decided $1/click for Portra was acceptable 🤦‍♂️
    I’m sooo ridiculously happy with my GFX 50Sii and X100V duo. Anything those two don’t do, my iPhone can.

    • @bytomw
      @bytomw  ปีที่แล้ว

      That GA is a real GEM I’m a little envious of that setup! The GFX line is stunning for sure.

  • @Rothmore
    @Rothmore ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting points on focus. A really nice pace to the video. Thanks Tom

    • @bytomw
      @bytomw  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Richard, I'm glad you enjoyed it!

  • @Pixelpeeps-69
    @Pixelpeeps-69 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video as I shoot fuji too and use both Fuji crop and Fuji medium format! Fuji gfx image’s definitely have more 3d pop and contrast than the Fuji apsc does! My Fuji xh2 how ever does produce lovely punchy images too with its 40mp sensor but my gfx50r is fantastic with the gf45 and my gf80mm where the images have a lovely more organic look to them and the fall off is amazing, voigtlander lenses are amazing which I use on my Fuji crop cameras

    • @bytomw
      @bytomw  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s an amazing selection of cameras for sure! I have tried the XH2 but didn’t like the colours as much as the XH2s, it’s still a stunning camera for sure though.
      Voigtlander don’t get the recognition the should.
      Amazing optics.

  • @hgabi00
    @hgabi00 ปีที่แล้ว

    Couldn't you do the same job with a Fullframe camera + an older, manual focus lens?

    • @bytomw
      @bytomw  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You could get close for sure, at this level it's all about preference.
      The GFX 50s is super similar in price to a lot of used full frame options but you get a different look and feel at the cost of usability.

  • @Bavubuka
    @Bavubuka 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So then you probably wouldn't recommend the GFx50 as a unit stills photography camera? Because of the lack of absolutely fedility to reality?

    • @bytomw
      @bytomw  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I would recommend the GFX to anyone honestly it’s amazing. I would however recommend a native lens rather than the adapted ones I have been using if you want a more “real” look.

  • @Narsuitus
    @Narsuitus 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I shoot micro 4/3, APS-C, and full-frame digital cameras.
    I also shoot 35mm, 6x7cm medium format, and 4x5 inch large format film cameras.
    I have never shot GFX medium format digital, but I am considering it. For me, digital medium format does not suck; but the 33x44mm sensor size is too small. I really wanted a 6x7cm sensor to use with my 6x7cm lenses.

    • @bytomw
      @bytomw  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      So as it turns out you can get speed boosters to get closer to the native FOV with 645, 6x6 and 6x7 lenses. It's not ideal but much more affordable than trying to find a larger medium format digital sensor.

  • @markusbolliger1527
    @markusbolliger1527 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I agree with in one point - but disagree in another.
    Agree: To transport the mood, the atmosphere of a scene is often much more important than the technical perfection of the image like sharpness. If one one consults all those uncountable forums and videos about photography it's mostly about gear and technical quality. But this is not the essence in photography.
    Disagree: In the first part of your video you claim how much you like your medium format camera for expressing that mood. In the second part you compare it with a APS-C camera: And oh my!, there ist almost no difference, except a little more background-blur in the MF- picture. So what? With full frame and a fast prime (with F1.8, 1.4 or 1.2) you can produce atmospheric images which are hardly distinguishable from a medium format photograph. That's why I see no reason to complement my Nikon Z full frame- system with a medium format camera - the additional aesthetical value is not big enough.
    Best regards from Switzerland.

    • @bytomw
      @bytomw  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That's why photography is amazing. We all get to make these judgments for ourselves.
      I did mention in the video I prefer the process of the GFX and tried to stress that it's only a subtle difference between the two.
      I also prefer the lens rendering from the Voigtlander on the GFX but the 33mm 1.4 fuji is also lovely to my eye.
      I personally think that smaller return is absolutely worth the effort but if you don't that's good too!

    • @markusbolliger1527
      @markusbolliger1527 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bytomw By the way: I like the images very much you made with the GMX and the Voigtländer 58mm F1.4 👍I only have doubts if this is only possible with a medium format camera. As the difference between MF and APS-C is subtle, one can conclude the the difference to FF is even smaller.

    • @bytomw
      @bytomw  ปีที่แล้ว

      If that’s the case I have another comparison between the R5 with 50mm 1.2 and GFX.

    • @volkerarminhafner8530
      @volkerarminhafner8530 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hallo Tom, wenn du willst, dann kannst du gerne mal einige ausgedruckte Bilder in 90 × 60 cm bei mir anschauen. Einige sind mit Mittelformat aufgenommen, andere mit APSC. Der unterschied ist für mich deutlich zu sehen. Selbst bei einer relativ schlechten Druckqualität, die im Falle eines JPEG Formates, die feinen Farbabstufungen der Mittelformat Kamera gar nicht zum Ausdruck bringen kann. Ein Faktor, der oft vergessen wird. Was nützt mir 14 oder 16 Bit, wenn ein Ausdruck dann nur acht Bits hat? Insgesamt ist natürlich eine Nikon Kamera und die absoluter Vorrang der Nikon Objektive. Eine ganz ausgezeichnete Wahl. Beste Wünsche aus Zug. Volker

  • @POVwithRC
    @POVwithRC ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The human brain is very good (and sort of enjoys) filling the blanks in. It's why it is so enjoyable to hear good music, and predict the next notes you'll hear. The same algorithmic joy is derived from a slightly tighter than normal frame on an image, or just a hint of fuzz where the focus isn't exactly perfect. I think that lack of critical focus is visual melody for the brain to take over on.

    • @bytomw
      @bytomw  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Fully agree. To err is human.

  • @nevvanclarke9225
    @nevvanclarke9225 ปีที่แล้ว

    Its dangerous ti chase perfection 😮... but I get the premise it is interesting comparing two Fujifilm cameras and it actually doesn't matter a lot what Fujifilm camera you use you will get similar colours out of the base camera as you will with the Fujifilm x T5 right up to gfx cameras I have been thinking about a gfx 50 camera recently for landscape photography would be my dream camera dream camera

    • @bytomw
      @bytomw  ปีที่แล้ว

      Honestly the 50s and some of the native GFX glass would be lovely for that! I’d see if you can rent on from fujifilm.
      In the UK at least they have a test drive program so you can try before you buy.

  • @jyangphotoatx
    @jyangphotoatx ปีที่แล้ว

    Just quick question: when you “compare the colors”, were you comparing with the RAW files with your presets, or jpgs straight out of camera?
    For example when you said the GFX skin colors are better than canon, or compared between XH2 and GFX. Just want to know the reference point

    • @bytomw
      @bytomw  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      In all examples I edited the RAWs to my taste. When I say something has “better” skin tone I normally mean that’s is giving me the result I want with essentially no additional correction after my normal workflow.
      With canon I had to do more with the XH2s and GFX I have to do next to nothing.
      Hope that helps.

    • @jyangphotoatx
      @jyangphotoatx ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@bytomw That makes a lot of sense. Thanks and I do agree too! So far I have experienced the Fujifilm and Sony RAWs are much easier to edit when comparing with Canon for my own workflow.
      I have noticed some TH-camrs don’t mention what they are comparing with when talking about the “color differences”. And most of the time turned out to be the JPGs straight out of the camera. That’s frustrating lol

    • @bytomw
      @bytomw  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Actually in Lightroom the profiles are designed to do this job in theory.
      The idea is that “adobe standard” makes every camera look the same. In practice it’s not typically the case. Canon, Sony, Fuji and Leica all render differently after the raw processing and profiles.
      But you can get them close for sure 👍🏻

  • @JennaBrisson
    @JennaBrisson ปีที่แล้ว

    So well said!

    • @bytomw
      @bytomw  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Jenna

  • @chloescanlon1107
    @chloescanlon1107 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where on earth did you get a GFX 50s for £1,000??? The cheapest I’ve ever seen one is £1600.

    • @bytomw
      @bytomw  ปีที่แล้ว

      I picked it up used from a studio photographer that had just upgrade to the Mark II.

  • @KevinAroni-uz5rl
    @KevinAroni-uz5rl 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Haste ver los ojos, se nota demasiado la diferencia de medium format

    • @bytomw
      @bytomw  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I honestly think it looks massively different even on wider shots. That said it’s what you like that matters.

    • @KevinAroni-uz5rl
      @KevinAroni-uz5rl 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I have a95l 42" qd oled 4k won diffrebce medium format is huge

  • @scotthullinger4684
    @scotthullinger4684 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Medium format sucks ONLY for the added cost, weight, and relative inconvenience.
    Yup - just like in the days of film.
    In some things ... bigger is ALWAYS better.
    Medium format sucks ONLY if you truly DON'T comprehend how to use medium format.

    • @bytomw
      @bytomw  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Fully agree.

  • @davidross8668
    @davidross8668 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I don't understand why you use the phrase "clinically sharp" in focus is in focus, I personally think you wasted your money.

    • @bytomw
      @bytomw  13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      That’s not the case. All lenses render detail differently. More detail is absolutely NOT always better.
      If your aim is more detail at the cost of everything else you’re right this would be a waste of money 👍🏻
      I personally like a softer feel to my portrait images and care far less about detail than the character of the lenses I’m using.

  • @toorandomenvi
    @toorandomenvi 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That sure looks just like the lens

    • @bytomw
      @bytomw  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not sure I follow but thanks for taking the time to comment

  • @jollojakar8995
    @jollojakar8995 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bro there's not even a coffee in this video.

    • @bytomw
      @bytomw  ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s accurate… I’ll fix it next time a record.

  • @v_stands_for_value124
    @v_stands_for_value124 ปีที่แล้ว

    The only real benefit of medium format is the absurd resolution, u tried the 50mpx pointless one

    • @bytomw
      @bytomw  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The sensor is also physically larger. Larger capture medium means I can get shallower depth of field and a wider FOV with my lenses compared to full frame.
      I mainly use a 58mm 1.4 that’s equivalent to a 42mm f1. You can’t get that on full frame.
      I’d you’re talking about the native Fuji 2.8 prime lenses for the GFX I agree.

  • @p.a.d.5164
    @p.a.d.5164 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for your video a lot ! i love fujifilm, and i am more like a still photographer, trying to capture mood rather than absolute sharpness. In fact i prefere to down a little sharpness and add some grain to my digital RAW files, it brings me back to my film camera aesthetic... I am currently on an X100V but i am really thinking to upgrade on medium format... Fuji make it "affordable"... weel it is a kind of an investment let's say.... but on your images side by side, i can see overall better dynamic range of MF, light and shadow transitions are more smoother , as well as color transition

    • @bytomw
      @bytomw  ปีที่แล้ว

      I see what you see too Pierre there is a little more on the Fuji medium format file vs the smaller sensor but it’s subtle.

    • @bytomw
      @bytomw  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’m actually considering selling my X100V because since getting the GFX I have wanted to use it for everything!!

    • @p.a.d.5164
      @p.a.d.5164 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bytomw yeah it's subtle you're right, and for most common people they will never notice it and don't care, maybe years of picture's observation and well let's say... perfectionism, make us research that kind of subtility which will make the difference when people will look at your work without even notice the technical aspect haha!

    • @bytomw
      @bytomw  ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly right 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻