Jordan Peterson Female BULLYING tactics & acted out by interviewer Anne McElvoy
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- excerpt from • Jordan Peterson on Gen...
Common Female Aggression playbook:
-Verbal Attack
-innuendo
-Gossip
-Reputation Destruction
I keyed in on labelling Innuendo by the interviewer, but she was also using verbal attacks, trying to do reputation destruction, and maybe also using gossip style implied slandering or doubt.
Omg woman...let him talk and let us learn. She obviously is a bully
Yup...behind the smile there's a knife.
She's the reason I loathe working with women :-( I hate feeling that way but I've had so many negative experiences that I honestly do what I can to avoid it.
She is truly a nasty piece of work.
@@maximwilson1482 Yes! I consider myself a feminist, but something has gone entirely wrong in terms of emancipation. I hate female bosses and absolutely hope that I don't have a female boss in my next job.
@@maximwilson1482you just gotta be cavalier and not care. That kind of attitude shows in body language and women pick up on that.
The irony yes
Competition among women even if silent, is more vicious than among men.
She isn’t even listening properly. Simply thinking about what to say next.
“Thou doth protest too much…”
He’s correct. And any female can tell you that female bullying is a different beast. It can be emotionally, socially, and psychologically devastating.
She is proving his point. Women are aggressive verbally. She tried to bully him and didn't put a dent in his arguments. Such a pleasure to listen to Jordan Petersen.
She’s in denial.
She is a bully , instead of accepting this and finding ways to resolve this problem in women
Alot of females are. They can't comprehend life and what it's about.
She doesn't want to admit her aggression toward him is proof she is that gossipping bully.
@@theresapalmer9238 She comes across as unhinged & looking for a fight.
Probably a Bully herself
As someone who has experienced this multiple times from women, i can attest to the fact that women sabotage each other by spreading lies to damage a person's reputation. I'm always discouraged by how quickly people jump on the bandwagon to condemn an innocent person.
Flying monkeys hoping they are not next. Weak individuals with no backbone.
You can agree or disagree with Peterson on some of his broader opinions - but a major mistake interviewers , both male and female, make is they assume they can outsmart him.
More like they assume they can out-debate him. He’s incredibly knowledgeable, adheres to facts, and is quick to call out those basing their opinions upon feelings.
You can agree or disagree with Peterson on some of his broader opinions - but a major mistake interviewers , both male and female, make is they call women broads.
That lady is aggressive
I call them broads too.
Its clear she hates him.
And probably can’t even cite any logical reason for it.
I admire how Dr. Peterson is able to out think, and out debate every single one of these journalists without resorting to ad hominem character attacks. He adheres to documented fact and clinical literature.
She's doing exactly what he's talking about...SMH
100%
Whenever I see malevolence, unprovoked aggression and especially in a group setting where people seem to get a kick out of degrading and humiliating others (with innuendos, verbal attacks, and trash talking), I know I’m dealing with very insecure, small minded, maladaptive and emotionally stunted individuals. Most are narcissistic psychopaths who enjoy seeing others suffering. HG Tudor has some good videos on this topic as well.
I completely agree. Plus persons from any gender participate in this psychological violence. Unfortunately, some others start believing bullies and exclude the victims. For self preservation, mostly no one ever intervenes
Can you please share one?
I pity the man married to this dragon.
Don't insult dragons by equating them to this miserable little witch.
I pity the man married.
I am a female. I have experienced female bullying. And I 100% agree with him. I would much rather solve conflict the way men do it.
Men gossip just as much if not more as physical aggression is frowned upon and can lead to punishment by law
@@soniasun1 i dont agree we are much easier to get along with!
@@soniasun1Hardly more, but you got a point - in the western, feminized societies.
@@jarinorvanto4301 exactly 💯
@@soniasun1 that sounds like such a huge cope. You only have to worry about the law if one man pusses out and calls the cops. The vast majority of men would leave the cops out of it
Any woman who’s worked somewhere with mostly other woman knows how vicious they can be to each other.
This is why I refuse to work in female dominated fields
If she is unknowingly proving his point, then the questions are pointless except to prove that she doesn’t understand or care about his premise. If she is knowingly proving his point, then she would be a textbook subject in the studies he referenced. Either way, being oppositional for a reaction IS pointless. The subject under discussion could be better explored without the interrogative style of questioning.
She IS the bully. She embodies everything JP was describing.
when he explains that women tend so show aggression by being bitchy. so she proceeds to become extremely bitchy at him demands he tell her where these "creatures" are.
😂🤣😂
Jordan - We have decades of research and studies… female reporter - well that’s just your opinion 😂
I’m so embarrassed to be a woman right now…
Haha she’s so what he’s talking about hahahah
Correct... Lol
Where has this women been living? Under a stone?
Jordan did a great job staying level headed in this interview but I'd argue he's still falling for the *cognitive dissonance* from her *innuendo and insinuations.* On the surface she's presenting as professional interviewer and barely being polite. But the tone, delivery, reactions are highly rude, aggressive, disruptive, intentionally non-matching, distorted, exaggerated, numbed out, etc.
Her highly aggressive communication style well illustrates what Jordan is describing in this clip.
Let's see if these attack patterns get played out in the comments section. Gossip, reputation destruction, innuendo, verbal attacks?
*Sowing doubt, attack the messenger, backhanded compliment (stealth insults), straw man, ad hominem,* etc.
you are clearly on crack. she can barely get a word in edgewise & disliking someone who is dislikable isn't an abuse tactic. have a nice day.
@Missy Opps.. I forgot to mention DARVO a variation of *Reputation Destruction.* Thanks for offering a perfect example.. *Deny Attack Reverse Victim to Offender*
You probably did that on autopilot and didn't even need to refer to the playbook??
South Park example of DARVO 1m37s th-cam.com/video/_aqSE2zP81U/w-d-xo.html
Yet another staged stuff with J.Shillterson.
He and the journalist interviewing him are in the same team.
Don't let statistics crawl into your personal relationships with anywhom, be it your wife/husband/bf/gf, random person of another ethnicity and so on.
Statistics matter; many of the stereotypes/prejudices are quite ground-based.
But there's a simple rule: if you have _chosen_ to interact with someone (not to speak of friendship or relationship), interact with a person, not with statistics.
ShElls like this one are very slimy; you can't pinnail them.
They make all kinds of clauses and excuses; they contradict themselves (not too much, but often enough; they know the right proportion), so when you try to poing out their shillvary, you get "no, look, (s)he's also saying this and that here or there" in response.
Genuine complicatedness is mistaken for false complicatedness (like JP's) - and vice versa.
It's a matter of status.
They made us percieve JP as a top lobster - speaking in his terms.
(Think of crab bucket theory, btw.)
"Might makes right".
Remember this "world's most cited psychologist" meme everyone catched along with and spreaded it further?
/My English starts to suck at times, I know. Same goes for my first language though. Feels like it's a flipping coin: good with words, bad with words, good, bad...My signaling systems are not synchronized enough./
Her blind spot is showing.
Sick of bullies!
Im living through this ..she can interview me and I will tell her that he is correct 💯.
I am living breathing proof of this bullying.
I have experienced this repeatedly.
That stare he's giving her at the end...that's called a Gentleman's Stare 🤨
It was so nice of her to serve as an exemplification of his point in the conversation describing her personality.
He could also mention A.Badura's research about the language of power.Where women tend to be generally more prone to weaponise language as a form of gaining domination and status.
I admire Jordan not only for cultivating and then sticking to his own perspective but for taking the flak - the godawful amount of flak - which came his way for doing so. Like Moses parting the Red Sea or something, he will set so many of us free.
From what? Ideology. We'd do well to listen and give him our thanks. As far as I can tell, his mission is to instil the lessons of the 20th Century before it's too late (the hour is already late). The job shouldn't have been his to take up, but in this dearth of meaning we have, he took up the mantle.
Does that mean I worship the ground he walks on? It does not. The current common misapprehension that agreement signals complete identification with the source is exactly the sort of maladaptive individual psychology he is trying to arrest. Thanks Jordy.
Thank you CIA Ann
Thank You Jordan Peterson !!!!!!!
Great comment and observation on this interview
2:00 Oh, man 😂 I feel your pain. I’ve been there so many times, trying to remain calm and collected whilst screaming inside.
Read "Woman's Inhumanity to Woman" by Phyllis Chessler.
Finally someone has written a book on this problem!
Looked up the famous feminist author & this book was released in 2001 but only a few videos on YT about it.
*Odd Girl Out* & *Queen Bees and Wannabes* address similar territory but describes it as teen girl dynamics; so that might make it more digestible.
Y'all think she learned anything by the end of the conversation.
Of course not. That requires self awareness.
I’m currently in a homeless hostel and staff don’t like me due to me not allowing their corrupt behaviours towards me. I keep to myself and quiet and staff (women in their 60’s) have spread rumors about me to the other residents and getting them to bully me and do their dirty work for them it’s awful because I’m not in a position to just move out quickly. I have really bad anxiety which also does not help.
I heard the single mother at the hostel talking crap about me to a new guy who moved in a few days ago. I don’t have kids so I feel she might resent me for not being a single mother also??
My therapist a few months ago even said that she won’t tell the hostel staff members things about me to “support” my housing claim because she knew the info would be used against me or to spread rumors about me.
I left my only immediate family due to narcissistic mother abuse (if you know about that dynamic you know) and so I have no real support and have to live in this homeless situation until God gives me a breakthrough it’s tough (story of job season rn)
Bravo sir!!!
Book: Jordanetics by Vox Day
The little "2" beside "intelligence" is pointing to a footnote:
2: Sometimes our show's hosts have little intelligence
The movie 'Mean Girls' was a great movie (comedy) that showed that
Men arent allowed to call out women, sisterhood assemble.
To oppose statistics in the way she is doing looks simply stupid.
Women in general don’t understand that…
The Genius of Mr Peterson 👊
He did well.
She asks questions she already knows the answers to. It gets to a point where it's like Peterson trying to explain this to a child.
That’s because he is.
time to see the total history of Jordan Petersen. His bad conduct in courts in the case of Case 1 Sordi v. Sordi, 2009 CanLII 80104 (ON SC) he defamed a parent in court. In the case 2 R. v. Pearce, 2012 MBQB 22 (CanLII) he tried to free a murderer. Then in the case Peterson v. College of Psychologists of Ontario, 2023 ONSC 4685, he tried to avoid taking responsibility. He also tried to interfere in a family court case in Montana, the Kolstadt case, where there was a GAG order, he unprofessionally diagnosed a minor without interviews or assessments, and tried to defend unfit parents.
0:41 - 'Where is the data?' - 1:46 'I'm not interviewing the clinical literature, i'm interviewing you' - there's her bi polar
As a woman, I can attest that every time I attempt an adult conversation with another woman this happens. I refuse to condescend to childish brats anymore.
Yeah, I can imagine, I think it's good to hear other women calling them out@@wintermatherne2524
@@wintermatherne2524 I've given up even talking to women to be honest, the manipulation is off the scale, once you see it, it's hard to unsee it.
She just wants to bicker, she doesn’t want to hear logic. This is why I talk to women as little as possible.
She is pissed off because he is unveiling HER M/O.
After being on the receiving end of this kind of behind the scenes manipulation, I try not to have anything to do with them.
Modus operandi! Good one! Brilliant mind!
Happens in pubs.
Ironically she is a mean girl
We’ve got a gossiper here lol
She didnt enjoy him calling her out.
No she’s just probing in a manner that at most can be considered slightly rude. There’s no reputation destruction, the like or verbal attack etc.
EVERY woman has the potential to be like this
And this is why I am so lucky to work with only men. Physical violence will get you fired, and male engineers aren’t prone to aggression typically anyways.
She’s exactly what he’s taking admit
She's proving his point and didn't realize it 😂
It's not often you hear someone get upset because the person they're interviewing is deferring to established research to back up their claims, rather than opining what they think.
With women it is
I work for one
Hmm 🤔 Interesting perspective.
I cannot stand gossip and I have been bullied quite a bit. And because literally crushing balls or cutting off heads is illegal, I just tell people to fuck off. Does that make me a woman or a man? Oh, dear, I might be one of those who cannot decide whether they’re a shehe or heshe 😱 I think I will consider myself an alien 👽
Please note as physical violence isn’t always bad so is woman’s aggression it could be bad and evil but also it could be useful and good. Also a man could be more crafted at this type of aggression people who watched game of thrones know that
Perfect example of just because you don't know something, does not mean it doesn't exist. You have to be rather grandiose to assume, and especially when speaking with an academic, that just because you aren't aware of research means that it doesn't exist.
time to show Jordan’s total history.
This woman isn't hearing what he is saying
Sounds like kendrick vs drake beef 😂😂
Shakira event deployed.
Wish I could hear the video
??? guessing this is meant metaphorically?
@@VisceralGravitas No I think they mean, it's basically only Jordan talking. He doesn't even let her speak or finish any sentences. I don't understand why people are so condecending towards her she doesn't even get a word in🤣
@@sumbae7668 Who's the *they mean* you're referring to?
Where's your evidence for your claims, let alone what exactly are you arguing???
Opps... you're just attacking the messenger to avoid considering the message?
How infantile are you? Or are you an over-educated type that has studied so much that you can't interpret and interact with shared reality anymore?
I have experienced far more Bullying from Women than from Men in the Workplace. Blimey this woman doesn’t get it because she is probably one herself
I bet she's used all the tactics he's describing to her, that's why she's so defensive.
She is not very informed it seems
She’s acting as if women aren’t aggressive, and yet, ironically, she is displaying aggressive behavior.
He roasted her she is a clown
Fart doggy love 🤣
So if i think he is an archaic weasel, wd that make me a bully or just intelligent? 🤔
Neither. It would mean you haven't pinpointed your objections yet.
@@beemio & why on Earth wd i waste my time doing that lol. (rhetorical again)
@@elevenhorses So you can speak non-rhetorically and actually get across what you mean in a way that doesn't just boil down to an insistence upon your initial presupposition (a circular argument).
No it would make you illogical and irrational. Because he makes a statement based up on statistically established, objective facts. His interviewer tries to repeatedly draw him into forgoing his unbiased sharing of information in favour of giving an emotionally charged opinion which he declines in favour of what is evident and factually relevant whilst she is also trying to insinuate a personal bias. Not only does the way she reacts only serve as proof of what he is saying in the first place but the way he reacts also disproves what she is trying to insuate.
It would make you ignorant.
Why does she keep interrupting him?? It’s annoying.
She can't handle the truth.
Willfully dense and wants to trap him. She's not as clever as she thinks she is😂
Women bullies are the worst. All bullies get their comeuppance eventually.
God, I would love to believe that! I've been going through a particularly brutal gossip smear campaign by the women at my work. I've yet to see any of them hey what they deserve because they work together to intensify and spread the lies, and it's never traceable.
I went through it at work in one particular job and I stayed there stupidly for 3 years and not only did it not get any better it only got worse. Sadly, it followed me to my next job because the well had been poisoned. These bullies will call after you. When you leave don't let anyone know where you're going. That's hard to do, I know. I've been followed by them for years and years. Hard to believe, but I've outlived many of them. Becoming self-employed helped me a lot because I don't have to stay in one place and take it. Stay strong. They will get what's coming to them. May take a while. @@melaniek1984
Sigh, he makes a basic, simple, logical statement based on data.....rather than being an intellect and perhaps asking questions about the data and depth of the studies, she turns into my 2 year olds chucking a tantrum.
She’s not being very respectful in her questioning. Don’t do an interview with her again.
Should have told her to look in the mirror.
this woman is so hostile...
Why’s the interviewer being so arrogant...?
He used a study on adolescents to make a conclusion about women who are ADULTS. He works off the premise that all people are aggressive and must express it some way then says he's not an ideologue. This guy's logic is all over the place just to uphold some random narrative supporting a false equivalency of aggression by men and women.
Actually as having to deal with these type of women for a few years now, he is spot on.
Adult women are 10x worse than what I had to deal with in middle school and high school alone.
the interviewer is really annoying, quit interrupting him. I'm trying to hear what he is saying. Literally cannot watch this because of her
Jordan can't even take responsibility for his own conduct, he went to court and lost on that. Twice
This lady is annoying, I hope he does this interview with someone else so he can teach us.
You should use clips of people who aren't so much smarter than you are. They're both out of your league.
Is the message to threatening? so you're attacking the messenger? Or you're just lazy with a simple ad hominem?
@@VisceralGravitas Dude... you want everything to be an argument. Jordan's glaring hypocrisy here, along with your leaving out the parts of the conversation during which Anne was quite contrite... you're just a spammer milking views out of angry Peterson fans. Their personal strengths are displayed to a great extent in the full interview, if you don't cherry pick moments and then present them in a radically aggressive manner...but then you'd have to upload a huge video, and angry people want a good short thing for their irritably short attention span. You creep me out, that's all.
@@auturgicflosculator2183 Did you *NOT bother to read* the description, which has a direct link to the full video?
I apologize this clip got *you emotionally dysregulated?* I'm guessing it hit too close to home?
It must suck that you don't have the impulse control to simply switch and watch another video, instead?
*Thank you for providing a perfect example* of verbal attack, innuendo, gossip and reputation destruction
@@VisceralGravitas I didn't. Now you're lying.
@@VisceralGravitas Sorry to see that you feel the need to blame others for your shortcomings.
Hang on. You should really view this in context with the whole interview. I am a woman. I have watched this interview in full. This is an unfair representation of the interview.
She’s annoying but.
You're right in that much of Anne's behavior is good in the interview, but still I think it's important to point out that she started acting in a toxic manner almost immediately when he suggested that women can act in a toxic manner.
@Robert Cook I laughed at that too.
It's not a representation of the interview. It's a representation of the point he was making in the first place.
Also. It is a micro discussion and the context of the conversation and the intellectual intention of both parties to the conversation is very clear. You can take words out of context. Not entire arguments when both sides of the argument have articulated themselves clearly
Im a girl myself and ive experienced bullying by other women. tired of women thinking that they can do nothing wrong because they for some reason think they are victims. This is not me being a pick-me, this is from my own personal experience
Sean Connery had the right plan.