Why She Stopped Finding You Attractive
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everyday
Every single day.
@@christophertrojanowski2769 How exhausting, yeah, fuck that.
Easy come easy go and Man reaps what he sows. But having plastic surgery is pretty much like go shopping at the store nowadays. Women in Asia especially Korea will prefer a feminine V line jaw of a man like their idol oppa. All that money goes into the facelift yet women might attract to the Dark Triad one.
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I was with my ex girlfriend for almost 6 years. 5 of those years she was on the pill, and had been since her mid teens.
She came off the pill about 6 months before we broke up at the advice of the doctor as she was having health issues. Prior to the pill, she was very sweet, shy & clingy and extremely affectionate.
Her friends and family warned me that before she was on the pill she was really nasty and unpredictable, but I just put it down to her being a teenager at the time.
Once she came off, she became really nasty and eventually ended up leaving me for another guy.
The only excuse she had was "I'm not attracted to you anymore"
BRUTAL. A complete 180 shift in her personality.
Haven't spoken to her in over a year.
The timing seemed like too much of a coincidence and now as a guy in his late 20's left holding the bag I'm in a position where once I start dating again the pill is going to be a topic that needs to be discussed fairly early with a potential partner.
I'm glad this is a topic being discussed now as its going to lead to a lot of unhappy relationships going forward left unaddressed.
You were saved, the issue with those pills is that they "castrate" qomen for the moment, is not that their true and kind self is the ones under pills, but the real one was without the pill, but that's because all her psychological problams were made surely by her mother, and bein in her true hormones state, makes her to manifest those real psychological issues, so when seh is on pill is like being on psychiatric medication, but all of that won't ever go only because the pill, it's like a volcano that build upos all that energy,a nd one day it will erupt, and the thing with women is that the older they get, the worst they become, because all those issues that are nos solved become worser.
Sounds like she left you for a man with higher testosterone. Work out and start taking cold showers before those workouts to bump up your T. Also eat more meat. Be more manly.
Yes there are massive behavioral differences between women on the pill and those on natural cycle. It's not just about contraception. It's making their mind similar to men's in many ways. I don't think it's just plain regular oestrogen.
I'm so sorry. That's an awful thing to go through.
Clingy is a bad sign too.
So, the price of baby free, unprotected sex is you don't get to be the same person when you're trying to make babies. That's some kind of Faustian bargain.
The devil is in the details
I suppose for some people it's a huge relief... they make not like that other version of themselves anyway. It should probably also be pointed out that the person you are attracted to while on the pill will ALSO be the person you are attracted to while pregnant, so maybe it's not bad to develop a relationship with a person who won't drive you crazy when you're most stressed from all your biological changes.
@@MereologistThat sounds like a good reason to keep her pregnant.
Explains what happened to my second marriage.
@@Mereologist Or just don't date a woman on the pill, because you now know that regardless if she's aware or not, it's not her character. Also, what kind of woman is already on the pill? Certainly not a desireable one. #EasyOne
All comes down to scripture and balance of the worldly desires/our spirit. Wouldn’t need contraception if you were following the most high and not indulging in premarital sex.
This video is surprisingly relatable. I dated and fell in love with a girl years ago and we ended up getting married. It was good for a time, like what you'd hope for, not perfect but a team. We then went through a season of huge life altering events, the worst being the loss of her father; it shattered her and she left me for several months. She eventually returned and confessed to her first affair. I was married to her for three more years where it ultimately ended in her revealing another affair. It's been 5 years since the divorce and I've since found enough answers to move forward and rebuild my life, but it was devastating, like soul wrenching. It felt like at some point a switch went off from her, and after watching this video I couldn't help but think the pill could have been a factor in her drifting away from me. She was on the pill when I had met her, but a couple years into our marriage she was having rough side affects bc of it and decided to discontinue its use. Her symptoms cleared up and we were relieved but overtime something changed in her affections and she grew cold and distant. "I never loved you" and "I never wanted to be married" were commonly heard, and a complete turn from where we began. I know the loss of her father had a lot to do with things eventually, but there was a cold hard shift before then. I'm content and good now, maybe a little jaded, but a bit more wise from it all. JP has been helpful for years now, but God has been my rock through it all. I am thankful for His grace and for Christ indeed.
Thanks for sharing. Similar thing happened with me, including the loss of her father, stopping the pill and then coldness and probably unfaithful although no confessions. I have faith in Christ too now, all the best brother
Have you ever thought it was you. You got too comfortable when you "had her" and you didn't think you had to do anything to keep her. You ended up demonstrating to her negative characteristics and negative behaviours that lowered her interest level in you.
Damn, brother! Sorry to hear that. I hope you can find peace. Whatever you do, PLEASE, don't give up on love.
@@acquiesce100wow, aren't you the toxic troll. I have found you sulking in the comments of hurting people, leaving the identical poisonous comments for each one. Let me answer your poor, pathetic panderings on behalf of everyone. If a person is being cruel, narcissistic, adulterous, or nasty to others, it is NEVER the fault of the others. It is NEVER the fault of the victim that the perpetrator couldn't be decent. Could each person learn a bit? Sure. We all can. But each individual is 100% responsible for the poor behavior they foist on others.
So now that you have your answer, please stop trying to further victimize the hurting and go do something positive with your life.
@@acquiesce100 Yes, of course I've thought it was me; every day for a long time after. I have come to personally acceptable conclusions regarding both my wife's and my involvement in the divorce. I will confess I struggle with relating to ideas in marriage like "having her" and "keeping her" in the way I feel like you inferred. I do not know of course if you have been married or how you view marriage's intended purpose or the roles each individual should play in marriage, but certainly when my ex-wife and I got married it was understood that infidelity was unacceptable no matter the circumstance. Two of the most important aforementioned conclusions I came to were this: I did nothing in my marriage to warrant her cheating on me multiple times, and more importantly that I forgive her completely.
While watching this clip on the various hormonal changes a woman goes through and the impact on relationships, you realize that Western liberals push and belief that "a man can be a woman" is so absurd and preposterous given the complexity of the human body.
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It takes this clip to realize that?
A woman is someone who menstruates. Yet, when contraception became popular, people refused to believe this, and tried to define womanhood in a way that is divorced from biology. The result is the insane belief that womanhood is entirely a matter of individual perspective and feeling.
Its delusional
I knew this a long time ago but it is good to be reminded. It also makes it a bit more clear why women are more likely to support alphabet these days.
“Every woman I want, only wants herself…” - BB King
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*guitar bend*
😂@@Sasquatch10
bbk?
Who’s the woman then?
Divorce lawyers figured out many women who get divorced couldn’t stand their husbands after they stopped taking the pill.
So is this good men being rejected for superficial preferences? Or women having less patience and tolerance for bullshit afterward?
@Gr8tBlueHeron probably not a safe idea to speculate it here. Everyone's gonna get mad at everyone.
@@Alias3141 that's what I fear. Bros are gonna hear this and blame hormone pills when they get dumped, or interpret as they are making women reject their alpha male awesomeness.
There is SO much more to it than that, and while she is absolutely right about the hormonal changes pre- and post-ovulation, different BCs have different effects and vary hugely for women. Some can make those hormonal swings worse, not moderated.
If you watch the video again your unconscious biases toward man hate might be assuaged. The lady says nothing about bullshit tolerance. She says that a companionable, gentle, feminine man will no longer be desirable. Women will want an asshole with the added injury of blaming the one time companion for her terrible life choices.
@Gr8tBlueHeron, the truth is that women are driving themselves insane with the chemicals they ingest on top of naturally being crazy due to their already chaotic nature.
You know women dump good men but they'll stay in abusive relationships right? It's because abusive men are the ones who keep the woman in line, whereas good men who actually love the women are the ones who allow the women to make up their own lies and misinterpretations, and then use those misinterpretations to dominate the relationship.
You're one of those "good guys" who gets dumped because you actually believe women.
So if I am understanding this correctly, the whole point of the pill is to allow sexual freedom, but it makes them less interested in sex.
That’s the paradox
Lmao right
I think the point is to not get pregnant, mission accomplished. Women don’t benefit from sexual freedom.
The whole point of the pill is to not get pregnant. 💡 🧠
The purpose of the pill is to prevent unwanted pregnancy. Nothing better to prevent pregnancy than killing libido.
What’s scary and creepy is being a guy and having to learn this at 40 and not before 20
No, what's scary and creepy is a guy at any age being chastised for learning more about women.
I'm shocked this isn't common knowledge. Menstral hormonal cycle was part of mandatory sex ed for me in 1993
Were all your likes from women on the pill?
@@JayC_x and did they teach you about the implications that the hormonal cycle plays in choosing a partner, and how birth control can impact what they're attracted to in your 1993 sex ed class?
@@JayC_x You must be a woman, but not it.
My wife and I are married thirty-three years, she was nineteen and I twenty-seven. She was not on birth control when we met. We had our first child a year after we were married. Our second child was born two years later and she got a Norplant (which is a time release implant), she had to have it removed four years later - they only last so long. She said she actually felt better and her libido went thru the roof. We had a third child, I did not mind she never went back on birth-control because I had more of the lady I married back. ;-)
Imho, your diet and everything you consume play a part in your views, rational and therefore also affect your desires. I mean we all know even something as simple and alcohol lowers inhibitions, lack of caution, impairs our thinking and messes with our emotions.
everything plays a part and you surely understand and grasp that all things affect each person differently. I had the norplant too and it nearly killed me. I cant take any form of hormonal birth control.
Truly insightful and outstanding! Thank You.
It’s hard enough to figure what attracts women. But now I find out that what that could be isn’t even consistent for the same woman.
Just do what all the rest of us men have been doing since the beginning of time, admit their crazy and move on lol
@@anthonyml7 But I want to increase my chances of getting laid.
Ummm yea. All men don’t like the same women.
@@Sterban. We're alot more obvious and consistent.
@@BitterTast3 I couldn’t agree any more.
Nice clip to release before Valentine’s Day. this was a great episode though, definitely worth a listen.
LOL right!
I have also experienced this phenomenon - I couldn't understand why my feelings suddenly changed and it made no sense. I am glad to be 50+ and no longer have to worry. ❤
Would be interesting for them to discuss the statistics of divorce and menopause - that's a hormonal shift no woman can avoid! Does that mean all men are inevitably fucked because women are slaves to their base desires driven by hormones?
I've never heard a 50+ year old be glad of their age. You must be in great physical health, or at least no dibilitating diseases. You could certainly worry about all the young women out there making the same mistakes you did. But eh, who care's right? It's their life and not yours. You're either a woman, by your comment, or a beta-male. I never thought older generations would also become a hindrance, but I guess when most of society is sick or addicted. It's just the lazze-faire attitude of not my situation not my problem. Imagine if everyone made everyone their problem? We would be a society free of problems lol, then crazy libs and lefties will have their Utopia. I would start by educating the women in your family to make better decisions.
@@MrMcguire89women don’t pass on information like men do because they are 1. Laziest gender and 2. Like to see other women struggle 🙈
I experienced this first hand with my college girlfriend who went off contraception. I wouldn’t say she had a complete 180 in her personality, that’d be too harsh. But I did notice she became a lot less forgiving of my flaws and less affectionate. I was too young and inexperienced to notice the signs. She broke up with me one Saturday morning and I was left wondering where the sweet relationship we had during the final years of college had gone. Six months after graduating, a blissful relationship turned completely sour-though the change in situation could have been a factor, too. Funny that six months seems to be a common time span in a lot of these guys’ comments.
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The only relationships that have lasted for me didn’t involve the pill. As soon as they went on the pill or were already on it, the relationship ended within three months.
The only relationships that have lasted? As in, more than one relationship lasting? Please explain further.
3-6 months is common for breakups. The idealisation phase (honeymoon period) starts to wear thin. Your partner begins to notice your flaws and imperfections a lot more. I think it's also around the 3 month mark people start to show their true colours, whether that's good or bad. But you get a better insight into what the person is actually about.
Great discussion!
Once you’re married, it doesn’t matter if you find your husband unattractive anymore; you made a commitment.
BINGO! Government "sanctioned" divorce and legalies needs to be reconsidered & removed from the faith-based practice of committing yourself to another person through God. Divorce and incentivized-divorce (women & vise-versa taking anything, half, or everything making the other party a slave) shouldn't exists. How is it your body your choice, but our income your choice? You get married once. The Church needed to roll this ball down the hill decades ago.
You are thinking with the reason and accountability of a man. You gotta remove those when referencing women's behaviour. (Paraphrasing Jack Nicholson's character in As good as it gets).
@@MrMcguire89 amen, brother.
@@Jacobpas lol dude for real. That scene was golden because it is Truth.
@@MrMcguire89being married without attraction, for whatever reason, is hell on earth, especially when the church tells me to go to the other hell if I end this relationship. There is a commitment, sure. But it shouldn’t stand above everything.
I’ve lived through this for years and it’s been awful to lie to myself, since I had to keep the marriage going, it’s God will and all.
If ever there was a case for longer courtship this would be it. To get to know both sides of that cycle with a potential partner before comittment and copulation.
A good conversation to have during that time would be about birth control and its effects. Perhaps watching this presentation together.
100%!
Good luck with that. At least half the population is literally not intelligent enough to have the patience/capacity for that level of talking beforehand.
Society needs to become more Christian again
And not being on the pill and being abstinent during that courtship.
@@bbgun061exactly and I think that is essentially what Jordans argument is based on. He knows these are ultimately written in Gods word, the logos, tell the truth, it is the truth, people try your best to follow the moral principles held out in the Bible that were practiced generally in the past by a larger population made certain aspects of society better. And many of the issues we see around us today are the results of not listening the logos.
Longer courtship not needed. We need courtship with ladies off the pill for minimum 1-2 months. Preferably a short courtship off pill during ovulation😁
My wife and I met when we were 16, we dated for 5 years snd then got married, and life is still wonderful almost 10 years since we met. She has never once been on any form of birth control and I've never worn a condom. Its very easy to avoid pregnancy if you wait to have sex till marriage and use NFP (98% effective if done right). However, I recognize that we were extremely lucky to meet so young, before either of us had made any bad life choices, and most people will not have this happen.
Anything that messes with the endocrine system is troublesome. We can’t even keep track of the external sources of harm that affect us today. We’re bludgeoned by visual and emotional stimulation, on top of eating horrible foods and soaking up immeasurable amounts of toxins from our environments. It’s no wonder we’re all a mess.
Who can find the narrow gate leads to life, the rest is destruction and death.
try having an endocrine tumor... my life has been hell and the endocrinologists are so full of crap... they have no clue.
I'm sorry to hear about your struggles. I can understand your frustration with the incompetence/ignorance of the medical establishment. About 7 years ago, I was having severe skin reactions, gastrointestinal issues, headaches, and more. I lost 35 pounds in a few months and my lymph nodes were all enlarged (systemically). I spent thousands of dollars going to different specialists, primary care physicians, urgent cares, walk-ins...not one single doctor could help. I was told I was depressed, crazy, etc. At first they thought I had cancer because of the lymph node swelling and weight loss, but it was ruled out after tests. I basically decided to treat myself through natural methods and change my outlook, because nothing else worked and I knew my body. In my studies, I've come across a lot of references to diseases, especially cancer, being linked to parasitic involvement. That goes against everything oncologists and researchers believe, but most anthelmintic (anti-parasite) drugs work really well for cancer and many sicknesses. I'm not sure if you've heard about Panacur, but its been booming in underground cancer patient circles. It seems to be helping a lot of people, especially when coupled with CBD oil. Apparently, something in the CBD oil massively increases the effectiveness of Panacur. Also, recent studies suggest the effectiveness of IV vitamin C in high doses coupled with a keto/fasting-mimicking diet. IV vitamin C has been used in the past for studies on cancer patients, but nothing really stood out except for quality of life increase. They were missing the key to unlocking vitamin C's potential. Sugar and vitamin C are structurally similar, so they compete within our bodies for absorption. I bet you can guess which one wins. The key is to reduce sugar/carb intake to create a state where the body will rapidly absorb vitamin C because it thinks its sugar. The vitamin C creates a bomb inside hazardous cells because of some iron mechanism. I can't remember the specifics...worth looking up the studies on this as well. Far-infrared sauna is also a huge help for many medical ailments.....please read about its benefits. It burns 600 calories per ~40 minute session on top of all the wonderful immune system support it provides. Studies have proven it can kill covid and stop it in its tracks. Lastly, I would also get a rebounder (small trampoline). It has an insane amount of benefits for the body, a few of which are tripling white blood cells after a short period of jumping, as well as flushing the entire lymphatic system. If I was diagnosed with cancer, I would go with Panacur protocol, the fasting-mimicking diet with as many vitamin C IVs as possible (they are expensive, but cheaper than standard cancer treatments), the far-infrared sauna 3-4 times a week (effects last for a few days after each sauna treatment...if you're in the USA, you can find deals on GroupOn for local spots), and jump every day on the rebounder. I have more information i've gathered from anecdotes, studies, research and testimonials if you'd like it. We're all on the same team on this planet, so we need to help each other as much as possible...one team, one dream as they say. I wish you the best and God bless. @@bushmanphotos
@@sirefromtheshiregreat information! Thanks 🙏
As someone who has hypopituitarism since birth I have a unique perspective on how hormones affect the body, if people are simply living for their own needs they are no better than animals, since I'm a Christian I have values that remain the same no matter how I feel.
Point being anyone who makes such changes as divorce over hormones is an extremely shallow self centered person. It's generally why I find such people extremely disgusting despite their outer appearance.
After 40 years of marriage, what I still find attractive about my husband is his kind heart.
That is love and respect, but not attractiveness and desire to have sax.
*cough*
Seriously, that's it? Honestly that's nice, but that sort of limited statement is very sad. As if that's the only thing you can say.. What did this have to do with any of the information here?
It invalidates the information because the short term consequences of hormonic cycles doesnt prevent you from thinking that choice of man trough rationally@@davidarthur4318
Women are out-and-out liars on this topic. They assume he's wealthy and has a strong social network and he's tall and a thousand other things, then say some dumb ass nonsense like 'he has a kind heart'. You wouldn't have even noticed his heart if he didn't have 300 things already in place. Women's ignorance or willingness to lie on this issue is flabbergasting.
Wow. Fascinating, thank you so much for posting.
There is also evidence that the ability to identify complementary antibodies in males by body odor is greatly reduced in women on the pill
What an utterly instructive interview and what a delight to witness these two intellectuals give and take in a very cooperative way to reach higher levels of understanding.
Absolutely fascinating.
Thank you Jordan and Sarah.
Fascinating content !!!
my god , this is gold !
Thanks for the wisdom, Dr. P! 🦞
Thank you makes so much sense.
This is 💯 true about conception.
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Oh, you've conceived? 😂😂😂
She stopped finding me attractive because I never cleaned my room... or any other room... or anything really, ever.
nasty
That's really has something 😅 please, be more organised
Yeah that's a pretty good reason. at least you realize why.
Should have listened to JBP...
That's what she told you. The truth is that your car was not good enough.
Thank you 💯
She tried to change you for the entirety of your marriage. Now having been successful, she says 'you aren't the man I married".
This is a cautionary tale I wish I had understood when I first dated my wife (of 26 years). She was on the pill when we were first together. I have accepted that she probably chose me because I was the stable,moderately attractive and financially successful option. Sadly, she lost attraction to me after having kids and not going back on the pill. She claims to still love me and most parts of our marriage are good - with the glaring exception of our sex life. I’d you are single and reading this, I strongly encourage you to explore your potential partner’s attraction to you without the pill. It might save you a lifetime of pain.
After having kids she may not feel attractive herself. This is a major part of their libido. They need to feel desirable themselves. Could be many reasons rather than just the pills.
Met my partner 5 years ago, we had a great relationship, companionship intimacy etc. Then she got a bar put in her arm and we started losing all that, her moods and laziness and emotions changed dramatically. The bar in her arm finally stopped working about 3 months ago, within two months she cheated on me and we separated as a consequence. I'm not sure what really happened between us but as a man, investing and building a foundation together with a women so you can have a family and financially be stable just to have it all crumble is incredibly painful and really puts us in a dark place
I had an emo girlfriend in high school who was a bit of an emotional wreck and went on the pill and I think it made her emotional issues worse.
The pill is one of the worst things to happen to women.
Causes cancer, can cause severe emotional issues and psychological issues and encourages loveless promiscuity.
This is really interesting, I'll probably have to watch it again because I didn't quite understand the part where she described that fertility window.
Years ago, I heard JP say something like: "We don't know what the long-term effects of using birth control pills are" (not an exact quote). Maybe I misunderstood something watching this video, but currently my two conclusions are as follows:
- women would like have sex without consequences, so they use birth control, as result they prefer less masculine men -> now we have this "masculine is bad" movement across society (I would say mostly with women between 20 and 30 so those that probably still use birth control)
- women in her 30ties finds a man that is "less masculine", he is not her type "overall", but she settle for him, because atractive chads only "use" her and at the same time hormons that she takes regularly make him "atractive" for her, she stops taking birth control, starts a family, after few years without birth control she comes to conclustions that she does not even like that man and decides to divorce him -> we have high divorce rates
This is somewhat of a generalization and simplification, but still, somehow it fits the current situation, doesn't it?
That's a great point and it makes total sense
I think in this clip, one of Jordan’s arguments about birth control is essentially; this “sex” drug that can make females sexually freer without normal consequences, actually alters what a natural women would do i.e. choosing a certain type of mate, and the results of that over large populations and time can produce possibly all sorts of negative consequences, which one was the fact of coming off the pill and not being attracted to your mate, whereas his guest doesn’t seem to be making the same argument or distinction.
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He's trying to connect the dots
Or maybe we met and fell in love before the pill! Got engaged, got on the pill, got married and it killed her desire? I always thought it was the wedding cake! 🤣
@@Scooters4521 Blaming the pill is a cop out. Women have a on off switch and they control it.
@@robsgonesailing your right, it's women's fault
Video summary:
Women on birth control desire less masculine, more feminine men.
While women who are pregnant (normally) desire more masculine, dominant men.
Conclusion: birth control makes less masculine men desirable... until she goess off the pill. Then he becomes even less desirable 😂
words of wisdom
I believe this is what happened to my marriage, in part anyway. Our entire time together she was on birth control, we were waiting till we were ready to have children, had been together for a decade and had a great relationship. In preparation, she stopped taking birth control, we bought a house close to her folks, and those things in combination ended our marriage. She transformed into a different person. I am a very masculine man, I work out quite a bit, I'm very large and muscular, I make a lot of money, and she basically threw our marriage away for a 150lbs musician who makes very little money. It was honestly pathetic and infuriating. I had been there through so many hard times she was going through, I thought that would have bought me a discussion about how she was feeling, but it didn't. She just gradually pulled away from me and I saw it happening and I put in an all out effort to try and save what we had, and it amounted to nothing at all in the end.
How old were you and how old was she when you got married?
almost sounds like muscles and money cant buy you love huh
@@razlahbb I didn't rely on those things to get her love, I was with her for 12 years. She wanted to marry me, she liked how big I am. I made barely any money when we met and first got together. The main point is one of the main things that changed in our relationship is that she got off birth control. I'm not blaming that exclusively, but to me it clearly made a difference.
@@alexgaona3168 I was 35, she was 27.
My wife and I decided to have children this year. I had her stop taking her birth control, about a week before this damn discussion came out.
Now I'm just going through my day, as cool as I can, quietly panicking in my head.
This women explained very in depth science in a way evryone can understand! She seems like a very good speaker.
Really important information for both men and women. Another great job by JP. Thank you.
I finally gave up on the whole cat and mouse game that is dating these days. They say I’m too nice and I give them nothing to chase after but this is just how I am.
Nothing wrong with that mate. Shows you have a level of maturity about you and don't play silly games. Anyone who tries to play cat and mouse isn't worth dating anyway. If two people are genuinely into each other, they'll be direct about it.
I empathise, however you _can_ change yourself for the better.
You could change that, but I understand you're tired, and I know why. Surprisingly, I found myself a girlfriend when I wasn't looking for a relationship. I was just enjoying a hobby of mine. Every single time. I never understood why because I'm a very average guy, and besides being very tall, I look ordinary.
When you get older things will get better. Keep being a stand up guy and practice flirting when you can
Nature tends to make things in pairs. Some ladies want to chase and fight, and some just want a quiet peaceful snuggle. Your challenge, however, will be in tracking down all the ones who are cozy at home and not drawing a lot of attention to themselves. Shared interests help a lot.
This is a very intresting topic. More Women/Girls should be educated about this
In the end it sounds like the "miracles of modern chemistry" messes with the normal.
The question is, who's convincing girls their not normal... 🤔
I used to ask my ex if she took her crazy pill today. Birth control made her behavior erratic and borderline psychotic
This should be taught to both men and women. Women need to be aware that birth control is literally affecting their base hormones.
Every woman knows that. We know it tricks your body and adversely affects us, but most women want to badly to be promiscuous they ignore it.
How interesting. I’ve never been on the pill or any contraceptive so I can’t relate but one of the things that attracted me to much to my husband was the knowledge that he could protect me. He was a wrestler pretty much his whole life then was in the Army. I felt safe with him. Also I can tell when I’m close to ovulating because I think my husband is the hottest thing I’ve ever seen but after ovulation he annoys the crap at of me lol. Because I track my cycle I can see a clear correlation between my mood and where I am in my cycle. Oh and I’ve naturally avoided pregnancy these 6 years so it’s possible people
It's great to see content that tackles important relationship topics like attraction! Understanding the dynamics of attraction can be so insightful, not just for romantic relationships but for personal growth as well. It's wonderful that there's a platform for discussing these complex and sensitive issues in a way that can help people reflect on their own experiences and possibly learn something new. What's your take on the factors that influence attraction in relationships? 🌟✨🤔
Wow! Raises questions and gives some possible answers in my marriage.
The pill - keeping men in the friendzone since 1956 😂😂😂
I thought it was 1960.
Kinda like beer goggles.
Lol
WOW this explains what happened. started dating a girl before she was on the pill she was great, loving, interested in sex. 3 years in she started taking the pill it completely changed the dynamic and eventually lead to me leaving. sad part is that i could not tell what had changed. everything should have been at its best we had begun to achieve our dreams. Still feel bad about it, because at 30 years old the decrease in sex rven though we were naked and intimate with each other often was what caused me to make the decision and at the time was a blow to my confidence.
Brilliant lady.
Why does it matter & why should I care? Doesn't change responsibilities, obligation, oaths, vows or morality.
"It's not my fault it's a medical condition"
You know the joke about women and accountability
Wow that's fascinating need to know info
If you have a dysfunctional parents and you don’t set boundaries to protect your wife, she will stop finding you attractive when she sees them too much. If you share same negative behaviours as your parents, she will see where you got from and find you unattractive because you will remind her of them.
This explains the roller coaster. We need an app designed for men that tells us when to act like men and when to put on the salmon sweater and skinny jeans.
Why not just act like a man and how you want to feel and date girls who aren’t on pills or anti depressants blah blah blah.
I'm done trying to figure women out.
How old are you?
It's easy, they only care about themselves.
@@Anastasia-ex7iw old enough to know that he is done trying to figure out women.
@@ryandenney351 woman are not always a problem. More of the time man are, because man is a leader in the relationship. Just choose woman with family values and it'll be ok.
@@Anastasia-ex7iwha
My wife has never taken the pill. Even before we met, We now have 3 children together, and when we felt our family was complete, I got the snip. I'd rather that than chemicals that might change who she is.
If people just had self control there’d be no need for birth control or gun control or any other “control “
A balanced guy would be the best option. Like an all-rounder being masculine and handsome while being caring and a family guy.
The problem is women are being offered a very wide dating pool and don't learn to compromise on balancing qualities in a man, they just want him to have it all.
Nature ( female nature), don’t care about your ideals 😂.
It’s like wanting a shark to be a vegetarian 😂
The higher your test the more masculine. High test is correlated with less empathy and higher dominance drive. The strong good man is a unicorn.
The higher your testosterone the more likely you will possess dark triad traits.
@@nocturnowl_0100 they always have
@@nocturnowl_0100 So patronizing. Women and men both have a large dating pool thanks to the internet. Attractive women get more options, but they're not all of equal quality. If you're upset about this, it means you don't have much value as a potential mate: you're probably not very creative and don't stand out, likely don't put much effort into initiating with women, and may or may not be that physically attractive.
Men are actually just as picky, but exclusively regarding appearance. A lot of men will sleep with someone they don't intend to have a relationship with. These guys are not real options, since no woman wants to be used for sex (unless you're referring to hooking up with very attractive men for casual sex).
Men are the same; they want to have it 'all', which refers to only two things: either a relationship with an attractive woman, OR sex (in which case, they'll use almost anyone). Yet for some reason, men like you whine a lot more than most women. I wonder why that is..
The widespread use of hormonal birth control is by far the biggest disruption in human to human interaction of the last century.
Its drugs, and yes you are right
I'd argue the widespread rise of Narcissistic traits in Americans has caused more interpersonal issues
howleyboy, not to mention the ill effects on a woman’s endocrine system from Rx and multiple partners while single
My grandmother had 11 children. I bet she would disagree.
How does an IUD affect this? My GF has had one for 15 years and might be going through menopause
Wow, very interesting.
My Ba Psych thesis was on exactly this research ~ Could a woman look at a mans face and decide if he was going to be a good child raring partner ... spoiler, extended periods on the pill meant (1) they chose the wrong men to breed with and (2) lost the ability to discriminate even after they stopped taking the pill
Man the pill sounds great for guys not looking for commitment...but then again you could say the same thing about feminism
@@Shade7x Yes, please
I’m so glad I don’t take anything that messes with hormones.. not even stuff for my period. It hurts ridiculously but still. Heh, this still explains a lot about my natural hormones.
I typically look at the full picture lol but now I understand myself a bit better.
So happy to see this topic being more openly discussed. It's truly sad that there isn't enough solid research on women, their hormones, and the fertility cycle.
We met in high school before everyone was just put on the pill like a vitamin !!! My wife never had the pill till we were engaged to be married at 18/20, but I remember distinctively saying the pill kills the desire to want to have sex!!
30 years later, 4 grown children,4 grands, our love and passion is at a all time high!
How many women, by percentage, in the age 15-45 are on the pill?
Women 15-49, ever had sexual intercourse: 88%
Among them, ever used the pill: 79.8% (all race); 61.5% (Hispanic, foreign born) -- 87.5% (white)
CDC National Health Statistics Report #195, 2023-12-14, p. 4-5
Don't know, but it is very, very high
Per a CDC study from 2017-2019:
- 14% of women are on the pill
- 10.4% of women have an IUD type device.
So about 25% of the female population in the US between the ages of 15-49 are on hormonal birth control.
18.1% of women are currently using female sterilization but I guess that must be different than hormonal birth control. But when adding all that up, about 43% of all women are using some sort of birth control.
3:29 The Hasburgs may disagree 😅
😂😂good one
My ex wife was on birth control and our relation was ok. Dr put her on a different one and the difference in her was night and day. She couldn't stand to be around me. I annoyed her with my very presence. Working in medical I was quick to pick up the obvious difference in personality and told her the BC had changed her and she should go back to the Dr and get something else. She refused for some reason related to her periods were not as bad (to be honest I don't remember exactly). We never recovered and over the next couple years our relationship tanked to divorce.
Now I know it's more complicated than that but there was a most drastic change. Perhaps the old BC masked her real preferences and I didn't meet them now. Or perhaps the new BC changed her. Who knows but I know there was a massive change on the new type of BC
This is a good reason we don't pursue life on sensual or fleshly or even intellectual insight alone, but you have a firm relationship with the creator who also influences our choices and thoughts. But most people like to freestyle because they think they know what's right and best for them and also want others to follow suit that's why we are screwed.
It would be great to have some insight like this about older women in stable marriages.. like the 50-65 yr range.. after a drop in estrogen levels. Because I often wonder about women leaving stable lives.
walterP, menopause can be a “train wreck” for many women. They need to study the physiological changes when the hormones flatline
@@BarbaraM-lv7pe And physical changes also. Vaginal atrophy is a big reality for many women and their declining libido.
You're really gonna upload this on Valentines Day
Yep, he's pushing the nuke button all the way down !
Lmao
i really have to keep this in mind for the future. is the pill the killer for relationships?!? its a common factor to really think about
Nowadays society focuses too much on the everfloating and everchanging needs and preferences of women and as a result we have armies of depressed, disenchanted, burnout, dissatisfied and disaffected people.
Stop living to please women and start taking care of yourself and of what really matters in life.
A new fear for relationships unlocked
5:30 How does JP reconcile this with his "if women don't like you it's not the women that's the issue"
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Hes not 100% right all of the time. If no one likes you, can it just be you with the problem? Sure. However, the current dating market is crazy as hell and women are as masculine as ever. So, it can be the person, but it can also be the type of people they're surrounded by. Expand your reach and work on yourself to be productive for society and not just live for your ego and leech off of others ( both men and women).
@@alantinoalantonio i agree with what you've said.
my point of emphasis is that his previous statement is indicative of a mindset that has made any opportunity to point out this kind of societal wide fem.le issue impossible.
i'd wager he'd still have an issue reconciling his previous statement with these observations. his gynocentrism is deep.
I was never on the pill, but had an IUD for a long time...mainly to "treat" heavy and painful periods.
Are there any women who experienced these drastic symptoms with use/removal of an IUD? I had mine removed last June in order to start tracking my cycle in preparation to conceive. I have noticed more of a pattern throughout my cycle, but I haven't lost interest in my husband...only during the luteal phase usually.
Wow. Interesting clip
This is impossibly informative. Thank you!!!!
On the other hand, the ad in the middle... Free prayers ?? What kind of devilry/ merchants of the temple is that?
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Sometimes people want to talk to God, to build a relationship with him, but are unsure of how to begin the conversation. Sometimes people want to petition (communicate a need) to God but feel under-confident in approaching Him, or they may feel undeserving of His intervention.
This is where an archive of prayers can be very helpful and affirming.
The experience of answered prayer is in itself a huge encouragement!!
Over time, a real relationship with the Almighty can develop, and He helps, encourages, intervenes, guides, etc. in response to you. Also you become more perceptive and notice when He is or has taken initiative in your life.
Im still working on getting them to find me attractive in the first place...
You have to step up your social game. You can be a good looking guy but if you’re socially awkward you will almost never get the girl. But if you’re ugly and socially gifted you stand a way higher chance of getting the girl then someone who is not and good looking.
But before all that, make sure you “clean your room”:)
@@jayt2257 I'm not actually that bad looking, but I am autistic AF, so literally every social interaction I have is going to be awkward.
@@mathius_dragoon532 be confident and transparent about your autism, even self deprecating takes the edge off the awkwardness . It will help set expectations. It may take trial and error but think of it as your helping them out verses doing it for yourself, because that is what you’re doing. Trust me it’s not as hopeless as you think it is.
Before picking up girls, first work on being okay with yourself and your condition, because if you’re not okay with it, how can you expect anyone else to be.
I think also important to this conversation is the shape of the woman’s jaw as well. I think a woman with a more square jaw is naturally more attracted to men with the opposite
very interesting and makes sense
Very interesting. The move towards openly shaming male behavior in the last 30-35 years would be an interesting study with the continued rise in the use of contraceptives across the west. Even more interesting would be the added factor of the rise of female leadership in media.
It’s not surprising that some don’t see it at all. But considering testosterone to be a malady didn’t happen by itself.
What male behaviour has been shamed?
@@wft15Everything.. all the way down to breathing and existing ;)
@@czarodziejmarx that’s not male behaviour, that human behaviour.
@@wft15 i do believe that was his point
@@Mccoyj189the shamed is the normal/ base human existence, in some cases.
It doesn't follow that if you think a man is attractive that you would actually also consider that as a man you want a relationship with. In my late teens early 20s I would consider some men attractive but speaking with them was a whole other matter.
Anyway my point is we are more than animals chasing the sensational and responding to instinct.
The relationship I have been in for many years was a man I met through my friendship group. I barely noticed him to begin with. Then it was clear he was chasing me. Anyway, he did a great job of that because he treated me exceptionally well, offering to do some joinery work I needed and not taking money for it, he simply said 'a friend in need is a friend indeed. He did numerous little things like giving me lifts in his car, buying me 4 steaks when he heard I was a little anemic. Anyway, he was so good to me, that I became very attracted to him and i admired his perseverence. He isn't a looker and has a narrow jaw line compared to the previous couple of guys I dated, one of them been a model.
Oh and by the way, when i say he was good to me, he wasn't flattering me and paying me compliments, he was giving me practical help and tsking action.
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@Drston..Interacting with someone in “real life “ situations is how you get to really know someone as opposed to all your interactions being when out on dates. Successful relationships are built on friendship.
Yes, he was a handy utility for you.
There was a study that said like more than 60 percent of relationships start from friendship. Its a thing that is overlooked. Alot of dating advice or "All" is geared towards starting from a date scenario. Havn't seen any dating advice how to meet someone starting out as friends. Pretty crazy to think of it when most relationships start out as friends.@@truthboomertruthbomber5125
My husband is incredibly kind, handy, generous, and very handsome. That's why I'm desperately in love with him after 23 years. If you also found him attractive, you would have married him by now. If anything, you proved them right. You didn't mention love or marriage, but you've been together for years....
My wife and i met while she was on the pill and I had low T. 6 months into marriage sex sucked. I decided i'd had enough with my bad physique and got really into weight lifting and even started taking supplemental Test to correct my Low T. I'm now much more muscular and lower body fat. Well a few years ago I got snipped after our 3rd kid, and after giving birth to said 3rd kid, she never resumed hormonal Birth Control. Now, My wife comes hunting me down every 2 - 3 days now if i don't initiate by then.
I did not find him attractive anymore bc he never took the trash out, let me pay most of the bills, ignored our children, hardly bought us any gifts, talked to porngirls on his phone.😊 now somebody else has to find him "attractive".
Well... Sometimes you find someone less attractive when you find out they've been using the money you worked for while they stayed at home "exploring career options" with no deadline to gamble, buy gifts for other women, and make loans to people who will never pay it back. While complaining that you're not supportive enough of their small business, which is... *checks notes* taking skeevy rich dudes out to dinner so that they can possibly network with them later on. And then being late to your kid's plays.
Sometimes it's as "simple" as that. 🤷♀️
"Sometimes", yet, a good slice of men in on the internet see "sometimes" as another word for "always".
I've talked with enough men to see how many see relationships solely through the lens of how much sex they get it out a woman. For me, those fellow men are rather shitty men, and the women you describe are rather shitty women. They exist and are around, but they do no define the sexes and they're the major reason to go looking for those who aren't that way and to work on yourself if you discover that you're too much in that territory yourself.
@@nektulosnewbieVery well explained. It takes introspection on both sides to decide what kind of man or woman they are. And want to be.
This isn't your therapy session
@@matthewhunter6421 Yeah it was. ;)
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Water is wet
Cant loose attraction if she was never attracted.
The sky is green.
Makes me happy I took the pill a total of 4 months and stopped when I realized how it was affecting me. I took it at age 20, hated it, didn’t want it to change me. Furthermore, female puberty is a 10 year process and even taking the pill at the later stage can cause issues. Why are we allowing adolescent girls to take pills that will alter their brain makeup and chemistry? Why not teach them show their bodies work and to say NO to short term sexual relationships or be safe without hormones? Birth control can be useful in treating hormonal issues but it’s not a one fits all solution.
The jaw structure is utterly true. The men I’ve found the most attractive had stronger jaws and my husband certainly does despite being average height. (As in, he has very attractive features despite not fitting the 6 ft profile-which is stupid tbh. Short men possess highly masculine qualities and traits, height is negligible in that regard.) Very masculine, symmetrical, and wide. Shoulders and buttock to ratio as well, board to narrow to broad-males have an attractive proportion too just like females do.
Of course as I’ve been with him his personality has made him even more attractive and the quality for the time we spend together❤ but in all honesty, the proportion and masculine symmetry is what drew me in to desire his masculine energy.
Because the push that telling them about abstinance will only want then to do it more... so they moved off of that and onto everything else. I breathe a sigh of relief every day, for how that totally worked out.
@@AnthonySforza I was taught abstinence and while I disagree with HOW it was taught, I also grew to say “NO” to short term gratification for the sake of a boyfriend in highschool. I think teaching it as “wait for the special one” takes the wrong edge but teaching “for your own safety and health” was more effective. Ideally, a “special one” can come and go with life. And Yes hormones run high and teenagers want to do it, but they have to understand consequences and those consequences need to be reinforced. Young girls hit puberty sooner and change the MOST compared to their male counterparts and that is both shameful and terrifying if wrongly handled. Imagine having a body similar to that of a boy and suddenly you get curves and you’re sexualized. Boys come at you and want you and you have no ideas why to say “No” if you have no support at home. And if you’re taught abstinence for “the special one” teenagers are frankly novelty seekers and think they find their “special one” at age 16 when it’s less probably as they reach adulthood to keep that “special one”.
Even if you give your daughter a pill or son a condom, there are consequences to those pills and casual protected hookups. Psychological consequences and behavioral consequences. My mom showed me to consequences of teenaged pregnancies and STDs and I understood waiting until adulthood was important enough. I also see how the porn industry is influencing younger men to go for sex as a sign of masculinity and that in and of itself pressures already undereducated female girls. Honestly it is all interconnected. As a society and parents we need to do better. We can’t sugarcoat everything and destroy our natural rhythms and cycles for short term gratification on a consistent basis.
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In short: toxic masculinity is in fact woemean taking substances😂
Good example of how women get in their own way
No, that's wrong. Toxic masculinity is when she is not under the influence. But when she is taking the pill, it means she likes a girly man more !
@@Matlockizationwhen she’s attracted to the feminine man she’s scared of the masculine one.
@@fronttowardenemy9994 No, she is still attracted to both, but less so to the masculine one !
And why do you think she’s taking that substance? Perhaps due to pressure from a certain masculine someone?? There’s plenty of blame to go around. 😉
All of us Catholic couples using Natural Family Planning have known this for years!
Yes I’ve heard your clergy are pretty good at family planning. Largely because they prefer choir boys….
Very interesting..
Makes the difference in the same woman across her cycle make a great deal of sense. My wife was always terrifying during the week before her period. Now it makes a lot of sense.
Only presents one side of the coin. If you chose a more masculine looking man when your estrogen levels are higher then you would be less attracted to him When the levels came back down again so you basically end up with the same results
That only could last very little, it's impossible to prolong that much that state, so basically the only situation where this could happen is if it was only one night sex and everything happened very quickly.