How does it work? Well it's another bullshit invented to prevent people to actually learn to angle. Because unlike AP that bounces and shatters on angled ships or overpen superstructure, SAP just penetrates. Over and over again. Casualization of the game has begun with HE spammers. Now SAP and IFHE rework will enhance cancer in the game.
Did they call mino well armored cruiser Wg: Mino is resistant to SAP shell in certain cases so she is well armored Venezia blaps her with 15 AP shells Wg: Me and my big mouth
Can y’all put aircraft carriers on the X box and submarines. I really want to play with those ships and I just don’t see it. I don’t have a computer to play on bc my mom and dad use them for their jobs and bills
@LoneStrider Well I think it's not suitable for italian cruiser since it already got a "not so good" concealment. And 4~5 more sec of smoke is not worth it.
I like the implication that you can actually aim for certain parts of a ship in the Italians. It's buckshot. Just aim at a boat and pull the trigger; they're going to go everywhere.
@@NineKunGTH APDSDS stands for Armor Piercing Fin-Stabilized Discarding Sabot. Its a a tank shell for modern MBTs. and yea, it'll baically only punch a hole in the ship. APFSDS has no explosive filler which is what the normal AP shells have. think of HE as a shell filled to the brim with high explosives, while the AP is a APHE(Armor Piercing High Explosive), which pierces the armor, and THEN detonates
@@MetaliCanuck im not 100% on the whole workings of DS, but im sure there isnt much explosives in a dart >_> the only other thing i can recall as of this moment is that there would be quite the bit of shrapnel
Keep doing this series!! There is no such thing is enought. I like to learn. And is easier then suffer trought dozens of battles just to figure things out.
@@iamsus7158 Yeah there is a massive community who plays it. And the best part is that we don't have carriers yet, although the devs said they would be adding them.
Hey World of Warships, Maybe you can start a new kind of videos like HOW TO. For example it seems nice to me to see how to aim better or for example how to win more often. Such things like that.
@ Not at all! You don't get increase/decrease XP values based on using certain shell types. The XP amount you earn in the game is based on your performance (kills, potential damage, spotting damage, fire damage, flooding damage, caps/defense, overall main battery damage, etc). If he is getting less xp using SAP, he is most likely not hitting the ideal locations to maximize the damage output they inflict. Also, your not going to earn a lot of XP if all you do one thing only like farming battleships. Compared to someone else that focus on other targets like cruisers and destroyers, even works around the objectives for his/her team. There's also a lot of players (even to this day) that don't understand the mechanics behind all these shell types to use them at the right moment. So they usually spam one shell type only. I'm looking at you HE spamming Yamato!
@@i_termx_i3854 You do earn significantly less XP playing the ship. I play the ship like a beast and it still earns less compared to other Cruisers I play. The points you're expected to aim and hit at range usually miss and then when you're in close enough you only end up switching to AP anyways. It also has the problem with higher calibre BB's that when you're in close enough even when facing them directly on you're severely punished because they can still punch right through the armor, I had the same problem with the Hindy yet I can face directly on targets with my Colbert and or British cruiser and watch everything bounce away. The ship still needs work.
@@AsttoScott It still comes down to your overall performance when playing any ship in this game, regardless how you think otherwise. There is no XP mechanic that determines your results based on any shell type alone. Cruisers are at the top of the chain (even battleships) when it comes to XP reward values due to the high DPM output they can put out in a short time span. The one class that suffers the most based on XP rewards is the carrier class. Also, it is a cruiser and like all cruisers they are going to get deleted if you expose yourself to a battleship (or any ship type) that can overmatch your armor when they start focusing you. I don't know why you think that's an issue. It sounds like a case of poor positioning on your part. That smoke consumable is there for you to use to help you disengage and retreat when needed. They have to be played carefully and use cover at all times (avoid being focus on) just like any cruiser that has thin armor. A lot of the ships in this line should not be played in open water exposing yourself, or played super aggressive in brawling situations.
Wait what? Less XP? Dunno about you but I find Venezia and Italian cruisers overall pretty high xp earners even when you do meh rounds... just look at servers stats and you will see they are all in the top end including premiums.. only exception being the Genova which is truly a very bad ship with that 20 sec reload..
Love sap, love losing 8-12k hp a volley in my bbs. Love the fact most of my return volleys backat them are all over pens. Feels like any where you shoot a crusier now adays its just over pens. An of course thats 1-7k of damage for a 30 seconds reload...
Do something to improve the Italian line because, as it is, it's practically unplayable until T7 and still subpar from then on. Sluggish turret turn rate, long reload time and ridicolous detection ranges without any real reason.
The "How It Works" series does not mean anything. Wargaming changes the game mechanics of World of Warships enough that this video will be obsolete in a few months.
World of Warships Official Channel 349K subscribers Can you please do a video on the world's only German Type IXC U-Boat submarine that ever captured and put on display in North America: the "U-505?"
Meanwhile in reality, Venezia's get max damage when their shells skim the side of a completely bow on ship. All they do is shoot the super-structure of any ship.
I think that British light cruisers should also get these shells. Not only because they historically used them, but also to provide some variety in gameplay for these ships. Right now, it's just about spamming low caliber AP shells...
Normal AP rules, but with slightly different parameters. For instance, the ricochet angle is smaller than normal; instead of having a chance to ricochet at 45 degrees going to a guaranteed ricochet at 30, RN CL AP *starts* at 30 degrees and guarantees at 15. This means that your shells are less likely to bounce, and will instead go through the penetration checks. The fusing parameter is reduced; I don't know the numbers, but RN CL AP doesn't need as much armour to arm the fuse. This results in fewer overpens, even when shooting at BB superstructures. The fuse timer is shorter. The shell detonates in half the time, once again meaning fewer overpens.
I'm afraid I dont understand the calculation in this video. Venezia has got 203mm shells. When I divide this by 14.3 I get a result of 14mm (203mm / 14.3 = 14mm). This Armor thickness can be penetrated by Venezia. Every Armor of Yamato if much thicker than 14mm. So how can it penetrate the 32mm bow armor of Yamato? I would be very happy if someone would explain this to me.
Well, there's also their exhaust smoke generators that let them emit smoke and grants them concealment while running at full speed. That's also unique to Italian cruisers.
So basically SAP are the WOT HEAT shells with the only differences been, they don't have an 130% extra perforation factor and 0 disadvantage compared to the WOT AP or APCR shell. In other words: SAP shells are like HEAT shells but they aren't broken or P2W.
Ok this makes no sense. I am taking the exact same shots at Yammy in training room and am lucky to get 5 pens, sometimes get nothing but ricochets. Now there is a flat part at the very tip, high, on all the BBs and I can get a ton of pens if I aim there. Same thing with heavy cruisers bow on, minus the flat part. So this whole 54mm of pen regardless of angle is incorrect.
How to use SAP is to load said shells onto a spaghetti boat surrounded by thinner armor than the Russian ships and call it the Italian cruiser and the give it the only thing that has better chance of surviving than the ship itself lol because 9 times out ten the shells will penetrate and have a nice blanket of armor around then the ship it came from lol
3:11 This is why the internal designs of these ships (and the armor plates) are important, if more ships had these design details, SAP would be much less effective. Personally, I've found the SAP damage numbers to be a little bit too high compared with HE and come with very few drawbacks.
@Anime 60FPS It's light cruisers until T6. Fire is useful for any cruiser, but is especially useful for light cruisers, since their shells dont penetrate that much. I burned down many BBs with the Nurnberg. the same thig with the Montecuccoli is impossible.
What do you think about today's episode?
Do you like the branch of italian cruisers?
Thanks for the explanation!
No more ambushes!
Will the italian bb get this
How does it work? Well it's another bullshit invented to prevent people to actually learn to angle. Because unlike AP that bounces and shatters on angled ships or overpen superstructure, SAP just penetrates. Over and over again. Casualization of the game has begun with HE spammers. Now SAP and IFHE rework will enhance cancer in the game.
can you guys add italian cruisers and battleships to World of Warship Blitz
Did they call mino well armored cruiser
Wg: Mino is resistant to SAP shell in certain cases so she is well armored
Venezia blaps her with 15 AP shells
Wg: Me and my big mouth
Sudeshna Das Sharma thE memeotaur is a floating citadel
@@juliaslavova9672 Ever heard of "Puns"?
Can y’all put aircraft carriers on the X box and submarines. I really want to play with those ships and I just don’t see it. I don’t have a computer to play on bc my mom and dad use them for their jobs and bills
SAP Shells
Destroyers: Deathblow
Cruisers: Just a flesh wound
Battleships: WAT DAMAGE?
but with italian AP .....
You definitely forgot the bow and stern parts, not to mention, those humongous superstructures.
You can r/whoosh me if you wish, but that's the fact
Rino Widia very true. Yamato eats so much damage on her massive bows.
yeah its just sad ..... WOW was an enjoyable game but that all changed 2 years ago.....
@steve n exactely but i play german BB
Keep these up WG! These and Naval Legends + the "Dry Dock" are all amazing series!
Who designed the shape of the shells in the video? lewd!
no one ever made torpedo or shell toys to be put inside something yet
@@waryth4475 I'd be very surprised if they don't exist anywhere. People are always looking out for that penetration.
wow, just wow.
OWO DADDY PLZ PUT THAT SAP IN ME UWU
"we are entering fetish levels that shouldn't even be possible"
Dear Wargaming: please make the extended smoke upgrade available on Italian cruisers.
Yes it would be very useful.
Man it would be OP AF
@LoneStrider Well I think it's not suitable for italian cruiser since it already got a "not so good" concealment. And 4~5 more sec of smoke is not worth it.
Poor full speed smoke for italian line up
I like the implication that you can actually aim for certain parts of a ship in the Italians. It's buckshot. Just aim at a boat and pull the trigger; they're going to go everywhere.
1:20
Yamato: "SO YOU HAVE CHOSEN *DEATH* "
🤣
Finally, After waiting this series for 8 months (Not count "How it works. Essentials")
lets wait almost a year after we introduce a new mechanic before we explain how it works!
whats next, APFSDS shells for battleships? 1200m/s shell velocity? or some kind of Super HE shell, with white phosphorous in it for only RU ships.
What it APFSDS can do? just make a hole on your ship ?
@@NineKunGTH flooding on the waterline
@@NineKunGTH APDSDS stands for Armor Piercing Fin-Stabilized Discarding Sabot. Its a a tank shell for modern MBTs. and yea, it'll baically only punch a hole in the ship. APFSDS has no explosive filler which is what the normal AP shells have. think of HE as a shell filled to the brim with high explosives, while the AP is a APHE(Armor Piercing High Explosive), which pierces the armor, and THEN detonates
@@Frostburnphoenix I guess you don't know what Discarding Sabot means, it does more then punch a whole
@@MetaliCanuck im not 100% on the whole workings of DS, but im sure there isnt much explosives in a dart >_> the only other thing i can recall as of this moment is that there would be quite the bit of shrapnel
Keep doing this series!! There is no such thing is enought. I like to learn. And is easier then suffer trought dozens of battles just to figure things out.
Meanwhile, World of Warships Legends hasn't haven't even got tech tree French Destroyers, let alone Russian or Italian tech tree ships!!!
DaBeast Bricks yeah
We got ruski cruisers yay
Wait some guys are playing this?!
@@iamsus7158 Yeah there is a massive community who plays it. And the best part is that we don't have carriers yet, although the devs said they would be adding them.
But world of warships legends got out not too long ago
Hey World of Warships,
Maybe you can start a new kind of videos like HOW TO. For example it seems nice to me to see how to aim better or for example how to win more often. Such things like that.
3:07 Suddenly: Giussano
They should put these videos into the game client and bundle them into a new Naval Academy course. It would be great for new players (like me!).
How it works: SAP ............................ not on Kremlin
SAP rounds aren't the issue, it's the slow reloading times and reduced xp you get for using them.
you get reduced exp for using them????
@ Not at all! You don't get increase/decrease XP values based on using certain shell types. The XP amount you earn in the game is based on your performance (kills, potential damage, spotting damage, fire damage, flooding damage, caps/defense, overall main battery damage, etc). If he is getting less xp using SAP, he is most likely not hitting the ideal locations to maximize the damage output they inflict. Also, your not going to earn a lot of XP if all you do one thing only like farming battleships. Compared to someone else that focus on other targets like cruisers and destroyers, even works around the objectives for his/her team.
There's also a lot of players (even to this day) that don't understand the mechanics behind all these shell types to use them at the right moment. So they usually spam one shell type only. I'm looking at you HE spamming Yamato!
@@i_termx_i3854 You do earn significantly less XP playing the ship. I play the ship like a beast and it still earns less compared to other Cruisers I play. The points you're expected to aim and hit at range usually miss and then when you're in close enough you only end up switching to AP anyways. It also has the problem with higher calibre BB's that when you're in close enough even when facing them directly on you're severely punished because they can still punch right through the armor, I had the same problem with the Hindy yet I can face directly on targets with my Colbert and or British cruiser and watch everything bounce away. The ship still needs work.
@@AsttoScott It still comes down to your overall performance when playing any ship in this game, regardless how you think otherwise. There is no XP mechanic that determines your results based on any shell type alone. Cruisers are at the top of the chain (even battleships) when it comes to XP reward values due to the high DPM output they can put out in a short time span. The one class that suffers the most based on XP rewards is the carrier class.
Also, it is a cruiser and like all cruisers they are going to get deleted if you expose yourself to a battleship (or any ship type) that can overmatch your armor when they start focusing you. I don't know why you think that's an issue. It sounds like a case of poor positioning on your part. That smoke consumable is there for you to use to help you disengage and retreat when needed. They have to be played carefully and use cover at all times (avoid being focus on) just like any cruiser that has thin armor. A lot of the ships in this line should not be played in open water exposing yourself, or played super aggressive in brawling situations.
Wait what? Less XP? Dunno about you but I find Venezia and Italian cruisers overall pretty high xp earners even when you do meh rounds... just look at servers stats and you will see they are all in the top end including premiums.. only exception being the Genova which is truly a very bad ship with that 20 sec reload..
Love sap, love losing 8-12k hp a volley in my bbs. Love the fact most of my return volleys backat them are all over pens. Feels like any where you shoot a crusier now adays its just over pens. An of course thats 1-7k of damage for a 30 seconds reload...
Ok WG now release PAOLO EMILIO, please!!!!
So basically it's APHE
SAP basically improved HE without the E and added ricochet
Do something to improve the Italian line because, as it is, it's practically unplayable until T7 and still subpar from then on. Sluggish turret turn rate, long reload time and ridicolous detection ranges without any real reason.
Well I mean that’s what happens in real life soooo
@@SierraDelta- Well, no.
It explodes, releasing a sticky sap that makes the target ship more flammable
Underrated
Awesome works guys ! We need french subtitles for this one too !
What about learning some English?
Fun fact:there a French battleship called dunkerque
The "How It Works" series does not mean anything. Wargaming changes the game mechanics of World of Warships enough that this video will be obsolete in a few months.
Finally, a HIW on SAP
*I think it's going to hurt german mighty bb bow?*
Well at least they stopped bulli Fuso.
5:07 *cough* Stalingrad at 17km
Thats why you need expert loader, so that you can change to armor piercing when broadside appears
How it works: They don't.
yeah as i am a DD player i almost never want to fight a Italia ship.....
World of Warships Official Channel
349K subscribers Can you please do a video on the world's only German Type IXC U-Boat submarine that ever captured and put on display in North America: the "U-505?"
do something about the current state of the game HE spam has ruined the top tiers
You mean something like a new soviet HE spamming "light" cruiser line? On the way. Be patient.
@@sirmoke9646 and even worst they're gonna outclass every other cruiser line in EVERY way
Yh people need to protest somehow either team kill them at the start or just go afk if enough people do it they will have to address the issue
@@belladesa91 HE spammer, Railgun, Invisible Radar, Crazy Concealment, huge HP pool!
No wonder it's made by Stalinium!
When submarine?
Meanwhile in reality, Venezia's get max damage when their shells skim the side of a completely bow on ship.
All they do is shoot the super-structure of any ship.
This knowledge of power is only power when you can play the game. I can't even run it on this pc!
I think that British light cruisers should also get these shells. Not only because they historically used them, but also to provide some variety in gameplay for these ships. Right now, it's just about spamming low caliber AP shells...
Get the Hawkins British Cruiser tech line, they have HE shells and more powerful batteries
No one
A guy named shells: *exists
Me: sup shells!
Add those things to wows blitz,we also exist not just PC players
shooting on broadcast cruiser, SAP is also most better than normal AP. Because normal AP is often Buggy and goes overpen on citadel.
Will these SAP shells be added to other ships ? (Not only Italian)
They don’t*
Why is a lot of bots in this game?
I got smacked multiple times for 10k by multiple venezia on enemy team in my NC. This new shell is #&@$
Whith Zara t7 cruiser italian i make10.000 dmg in one shoot on bismark.....and on dd 3000....logical.....
I hope world of warship blizt can same gameplay CV like CV world of warship PC
Yes
PLZ nerf torpedoes they keep destroying my ship and are basically just insta killing me!!!! 😢
So this is basically a cruiser that hunts for destroyers
1:15 Imagine if Minotaur had thicker armour than Yamato XDD
The shells hit at different places
01:38 what? Lepanto have 381mm. 381mm:14,3= 26mm. Sounds not right for me
that why i am so bad, i haven't memorized all the vulnerabilities of all 500 ships🤣🤣
So it's HESH for ships
Glorious Kremlin obviously doesn't care about your puny little SAP shells.
Only Venezia is great. The rest is shit.
WG want you to freexp all way to t10
SAP Shell = Superior Armor Piercing Shell. No shatter, no bounce, no recochet, no overpen.
So how do the British light cruiser shells work?
Normal AP rules, but with slightly different parameters.
For instance, the ricochet angle is smaller than normal; instead of having a chance to ricochet at 45 degrees going to a guaranteed ricochet at 30, RN CL AP *starts* at 30 degrees and guarantees at 15. This means that your shells are less likely to bounce, and will instead go through the penetration checks.
The fusing parameter is reduced; I don't know the numbers, but RN CL AP doesn't need as much armour to arm the fuse. This results in fewer overpens, even when shooting at BB superstructures.
The fuse timer is shorter. The shell detonates in half the time, once again meaning fewer overpens.
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I'm afraid I dont understand the calculation in this video. Venezia has got 203mm shells. When I divide this by 14.3 I get a result of 14mm (203mm / 14.3 = 14mm). This Armor thickness can be penetrated by Venezia. Every Armor of Yamato if much thicker than 14mm. So how can it penetrate the 32mm bow armor of Yamato? I would be very happy if someone would explain this to me.
That is the value for overmatching
Yes I see. I watched the video four times and now I got it :-)
After watching this video I still struggle to understand in which situations they actually are usefull.. except against destroyers.
1:45 the shape of the shell looks a bit odd...
It's a bit late for this isn't it? Wouldn't it have been better to release this alongside the release of the Italian cruisers?
WTF...... why...... your just fucking up the game ................. REALLY.....
If you dont know how its work like me
.... its like (Heat ammo) in Wot
Only italian ships haves the sap shells??
Yes. It's the Italian Cruisers' signature feature.
Well, there's also their exhaust smoke generators that let them emit smoke and grants them concealment while running at full speed. That's also unique to Italian cruisers.
At first i thought it stands for "Super Armor Piercing"
I don’t even played the game but I did find it informative.
You should play, lol
Rico T for now, I’ll stick with War Thunder.
So....it's useless crap. Good to know. Saved me some time...
Basically, try to make sense on something that makes no sense.
basically its APHEBC but for bigger guns
Ppl today target anything they can shoot rather than who is worthy for them
They stopped Fuso abuse
Lutfen turkce altyazi ekleyin
So basically SAP are the WOT HEAT shells with the only differences been, they don't have an 130% extra perforation factor and 0 disadvantage compared to the WOT AP or APCR shell.
In other words: SAP shells are like HEAT shells but they aren't broken or P2W.
This should help me on World of warship blitz
沒有中文字幕 差評 just kidding
bro image hop many sentrys you can SAP with those guns
So, to put into world of tanks terms, it’s hesh?
-Question : How It Works : SAP Shells
-Answer : it's doesn't
The End.
SAP shell has a weird shape who is the designer?
Ok world of warships, only for Italian guns, but, can we have the rest of the Italian navy?
Ok this makes no sense. I am taking the exact same shots at Yammy in training room and am lucky to get 5 pens, sometimes get nothing but ricochets. Now there is a flat part at the very tip, high, on all the BBs and I can get a ton of pens if I aim there. Same thing with heavy cruisers bow on, minus the flat part. So this whole 54mm of pen regardless of angle is incorrect.
I think you can put out a video about British battleships or heavy cruisers, How they work！My HMS Vanguard is too hard to play XD
Okay , i love this game but isn't it abit too late to launch this video? i mean, havent Italian Cruisers been around for a while now? :)
Don't think firing shells made from tree sap will do any significant damage...
Basically destroyer killer ammo?
Sounds good but I'll stick to what I know for now
How to get sap for Napoli in main barrel
Cant wait for explanation of Super Biased Shells of upcoming Russian CAs.
Wargaming has a weird fetish with anything Italian, WoT devs added a huge new mechanic with the Italian tanks too lol
How to use SAP is to load said shells onto a spaghetti boat surrounded by thinner armor than the Russian ships and call it the Italian cruiser and the give it the only thing that has better chance of surviving than the ship itself lol because 9 times out ten the shells will penetrate and have a nice blanket of armor around then the ship it came from lol
It looks impressive in the drawing board. Impractical in reality...
when i last played wows there where no U-Bots
Still no sign of them
@@jozseftoth9368 what about scenario pve 👀?
@@faroria6054 idk, are they in scenarios? I do not play these
@@jozseftoth9368 yup in one of em I think and you should play it it's great
3:11 This is why the internal designs of these ships (and the armor plates) are important, if more ships had these design details, SAP would be much less effective.
Personally, I've found the SAP damage numbers to be a little bit too high compared with HE and come with very few drawbacks.
The biggest drawback is no fire damage. That's a big drawback especially for light cruisers.
@Anime 60FPS It's light cruisers until T6. Fire is useful for any cruiser, but is especially useful for light cruisers, since their shells dont penetrate that much. I burned down many BBs with the Nurnberg. the same thig with the Montecuccoli is impossible.
SAP is kind of interesting, sadly you have to play a garbage line of Cruisers to use the new shell type.
Why are they shooting red laser beams at me
minotaur isn't HE proof either
Mucho pedirles a wargaming que pongan multi idioma en los subtítulos??