1:22 and 6:47 Upgrades were updated in version 0.9.1. The relevant list of upgrades, their descriptions and correct icons can be seen in the game client. 2:07 In Update 0.8.7, The mechanics and visualization of the priority AA sector system were updated. 2:25 In Update 0.8.7, the "Manual Fire Control for AA Armament" skill was replaced by the "Massive AA Fire" skill. 5:20 In Update 0.8.5.1, the description of the "Survivability Expert" skill was changed. The HP bonus to planes for each ship Tier of was changed from +15 to +25 .
How it works: AA defense in wows .... it doesnt if CV can regenerate planes, why cant my AA gun regenerate too? facing combat ready planes at the of battle with heavily damaged defenses is seriously unfair
@@christakuzuma3147 Fighter Consumable from either Ship or Air group are not engage each other but they can be shot down by AA Fighter,Spotting plane still function like normal except their vision must not blocked by terrain to spot ship Fighter from ship that already destroy will still remain patrol and attack any plane beside fighter/spotting aircraft in area
@Maximilian L probably like controlling plane in 3rd peerson mode unlike me i like to play cv like before a top down view like a chess board with ships and planes as your caracter
@Maximilian L I played CV for it's strategic RTS like gameplay... if I want an action, I'd queue up with my BB or CL now I have no other choice but stop playing... lower tier CV is a BB sinking simulator now, and higher tier CV is unrealistic plane crashing simulator
@@HarunaKaiNi almost a year don't magically make the mode better, in fact it just make lots of CV players quit, filled with newcomer who never tasted the previous gameplay so they have nothing to complain.
Thanks for the info, but really, no one at WG thought we should have this info BEFORE the cv rework went live? Really? If your IT department planned a major rework of your computer systems, and scheduled the training for it weeks after the change was already in place, would they still be working there?
They deleted the air Supremacy loadout!!! They deleted the second spot plane!!! They decreased the spot time of spotting planes!!! They deleted half of carriers!!! This upgrade was the biggest mistake of Wows!!! Its aqtually a downgrade!!!
I never got mine, but I was looking forward to the taihou, but now it's gone I hope they add said cvs back into the game somehow, but it BETTER NOT COST STEEL R.I.P CARRIERS, GODSPEED
@@justoldschoolfrankie1111 Just watched Flamu shoot down 26 planes in a Montana post Hotfix game with a anti-DOT build + manual AA. Consistent dmg is killer now and he only had planes go near him a handful of times. You're downright lying.
Oh Boy you never Played cv at the time the Video came out, let me describe, you wanna attack a montana with Torpedo bombers? Be happy to lose 11/12 planes of your group just because of the stupidity of your planes which fly into close Quarter combat AA and die in Half a second, cvs only have Half a group of the plane types on Reserve, after 6-7 Minutes in battle cvs would have no planes left
my biggest complaints are the fighter consumable on carriers. It makes it really hard to actually provide cap for anything other than your own CV. 60 second cap is not sufficient. I think when activated on your attack squadron you should be able to manually assign them to defend a specific ship, area, or escort an attack squadron. They should persist until they run out of ammo, get destroyed or are bingo on fuel. I don't buy that they run out of either in 60 seconds of non-combat circling. I do find the auto launch of cap when your CV is spotted to be quite realistic and useful. I just feel that CV game play should be just as much about fighting the enemy CV's squadrons as it is attacking enemy ships. Also dedicated AA cruisers and DD need to be rewarded much more for shooting down planes! Right now there is not enough reward for escorting vulnerable capitol ships with your AA cruiser/DD's.
thats right... is a desaster... we need the last version before the hot fix... is crazy the last hot fix... salem can explode you.. stalingrad can explode you in a second.. montana and more.. and cv no? players started to cry... but why??? drop the hot fix now
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Dear WG. AA does not work - since you nerfed the range into the ground - there is no more the ability to cover friendly ships with your AA, unless they are less than 2 km from you ...
before hot fix CV been broken full AA desmoines and CV just atacked me all game ,3 plane kills,,,but i thing hot fix is just broke AA (OP) ,something midle is the sweet spot
The CC are filled with so much hate to CV is stunning. If you never played this game you wohld think there is 1 CV in the game because know one talks about the other 9. AA is so high now that you lose the while sq on every pass. Sipan with t10 planes lost a while sq to 1 t8 bb and it was alone.
As of 0.8.0.1 AA ridiculously overpowered, I’m taking out the Ryujo Tier 6 Cv at the moment trying to get to the tier 8, I’m constantly in Tier 8 games... the planes are so hopeless and the ship AA So strong I can’t do anything, on one game I was the last ship left and the enemy had a Massachusetts left with 2K HP, I attacked him with bombers, every one shot down before I could get close, and I avoided all the black flack.. then with torpedo planes, that are so slow ever one but 2 dies before they got to drop, but when I did drop the torpedoes are so slow the BB had no problem turning around and just out running them... balance the game WG for the love of god
Hotfix is broken when it comes to AA. WG balanced it from tier VIII - X. While it works there (kinda) lower tiers have useless AA and higher tiers shred lower tier cv
This is a game, if your put up against opponents like that, you should be able to do something... point of fact a fairy swordfish managed to torpedo the Bismarck.. and lots of Vals and Zeros manage to sink the US fleet at Perl. This is a game and should have Balance so you can actually take part in a battle
@@504smudge Bismarck's guns were calibrated for modern planes not WWI relics . Pearl Harbor was a surprise attack and Yamamoto held off the third wave since surprise was no longer there. After that US ships had so much AAA that stories were told of how much led they could put into the air.
New to world of warships this past 2 mos My suggested view of AA from ship side Automatic Gunner AA hit rate: should be should be calculated with Type off AA being used with a moderate ammo expenditure. Noise and fire Semi selection AA hit rate could be higher... if you use the select sector option .slightly more ammo usage for use those batteries firing Manual target selection by keeping AA curser on individual or squadron .Concentrates fire with a higher hit rate if you can aim and move with target. From CV A/C sortie... Plane destroyed... your down 1 Damaged: time penalty for relaunch repair and rearm Have a min setting on how many " rearmed and ready for combat planes" you select for an attack but can ignore ... but you will have fewer effective planes.
The old system was so very different, with a limited number of planes, an active fighter squadrone, and a trs like control on the map, rather than 3rd person pilotaction and therefore the capability to launch all three squadrones together. Most of us miss that old system.
It does add some layers of fun to it but the fact fighters are a consumable and not something you can send out manually is kind of ridiculous in my personal opinion.
@@samsiegel4052 ya I definitely share that sentiment about the fighters, I've got friendly ships being pummeled by the enemies carrier craft but I'm bombing the guy in the cap so I can't give my ships any CAP
The Hakuryu is now a complete waste of time. I can't belive you also nerfed the speed of its torpedoes to 40kts! The most sluggish and slowest BBs can now avoid the torps, that is if you can even get your planes through the flak. Wasted real money buying doubloons to exchange for free XP so I could buy it. Bitterly disappointed. It did need some tweeking like the F spamming, but you guys went way overboard. All that time, hardwork and effort spent on developing the rework and you've completely botched it.
Tony Duffy, Ring Finder, Games and More I was in my FDG and out ran some trips from a Midway... quite literally tail chasing me and I out paced them... they can’t have tested this before putting it on the server
@@504smudge I changed captain skill on Hakuryu to torpedo acceleration to get some more speed out of them, but I had to get closer because the range was decreased. My planes were wiped out and I didn't hit a single torp in the game. It's complete madness. I'm more pissed off at myself that I spent real money on doubloons to get the Hakuryu. I should have waited to see how it panned out.
nah, it's because you have 1 squad once i played older version CV, you can stack ALL your squad once (3~4 including fighters) to make AAA not that useful
nice, the only reason for playing CV is now gone... I've tried the new CV and I prefer the action of other ship types. I play this game for a full fledged warship battle after all, not a half asses plane crashing simulator. Strategic RTS like gameplay that the previous CV offered was on par with what I expected from this class of ship when fighting the other type of warships. I can do what the CVs do at battle of midway or other WW2 real battles, do a real time maneuver to dodge torpedo bombers or any other kind of airplanes while my attack squadron launches a surveillance mission or attack the enemies WITH ESCORTS to maintain air superiority. But now I'm playing as a crashing plane that can't even do kamikaze attacks facing unrealistic OP AA guns in an unrealistic AA guns utopia while my ship blindly move towards the incoming torpedoes uncontrollably... great! 10/10 very realistic
@@ghs01965 after the hotfix I had to use them. And I learned how to bomb. Ofc I need more practice, but HE bombs are great. AP are even harder , since they have to be dropped from high altitude to citadel. If you drop them from low altitude it only makes regular pens or overpens. Though the high altitude sometimes makes you miss the target when it maneuver. So you should find "sitting" objects like Richelieu, Yamato, Musashi, Izumo , Nelson, Dunkerque or other CV .
I find it a bit ridiculous that AA acts like a Damage over Time (DoT) instead of you know getting hit actually hurts you and punishing if you are not using strategy and flying in a straight line. Instead the ships now that have semi-decent AA/Flak can just chew through over half your squarden regardless of their positioning, and maneuvering only really works on Flak. Good luck getting through that mass in even remotely good condition.
Guys, this is a difficult update. People want to love it but the balance is kinda broken. If the CVs are to overpowered, people exploit it. If AA is this strong, Planes can barely touch a ship without losing so many planes. Probably gonna be getting a few more updates on this.
Does anyone know that if the AA module has destroyed during battle, am I still capable of deal some damage to planes? 100%? or less? and what if I equip the parts like give more HP to AA module, am I take more damage from HE shells before the module got destroyed? and lastly is there anything that gives your AA gun more range?
Disliked the vid as it contained very little information about how to actually deal with planes from the receiving end. Appart from blobbing up (which is crippling gameplay increasingly) and "Reeinforcing AA sector", how to for example deal with tripple stealth torping bombers, one-squad cross torps or with "DD go cap" when hunted by rocketplanes? Let me guess: "Just dodge lol"
i find these videos a bit disappointing. not that they are done poorly at all. but the title is a bit misleading to a really inexperienced player. the title should be how to increase your skill. not HOW IT WORKS. what keys are used to do what? and when? choosing sectors. how to you activate the various tools you discuss? how does one select guns? ammo? how does one summon aircraft? the narrator talks about "all the tools available to you". how does one learn what they are and HOW THEY WORK? and so on and so forth. i have only 20 or so battles under my belt at this time so i am not really qualified to have much of an opinion, nor do i even know what questions to ask, so please excuse me. i fully understand it takes 100s even 1000s of battles before most people have a clue. i am going to play the heck out of my bottom tier ships until i feel like i am accomplishing something with them and understand why. thank you!
then don't attack American ships, its that simple. Aircraft dying in droves in war was a real thing but against less equipped ships they are very lethal. Heck I've been killed plenty of times in my french BB because it lacks the enormous AAA of my American ships but its still fun
@@Predator42ID I did not say that the new gameplay is not fun, but American ships or not, the planes just die too fast, and they do not do that much damage over all. The damage accumulates over time, but it is feel like sitting in a paper airplane and shooting with paper balls
attack DD's then. That's the primary reason DD's are gone now. If you can't attack any DD's go attack ships without reinforced AA like musashi St. Louis, Graf Spee, etc..
HAKURU torps still OP a hell need nerf 2x or 3x the game is unplayeble anymore with any german ship in high tier CVs need a big nerf, they are more tanki of BBs!!! this is bullshit!!!! Also all these ""How it Works"" is a big bullshit because this is not a flight simulator, should be just a Ship X Ship combat All the game become a bulshit with this mixed airplanes + Ships,you just screwed the game, there are no any How it Works
Man...you guys have an overall good game but have completely done a FUBAR job with the most important aspect of naval warfare. Carrier warfare. Look. Get yourselves a couple copies of Battle stations Midway and Pacific. Play it. Learn from it. Scrap the absolute garbage you've put out and start over.
5:39 Aircraft repair in the air? What is this Fortnite? Update: I forgot, what happens if the planes are on deck and caught by enemy dive bombers of HE fire? Are they magically repaired too?
i used to love this game. i took a few months off and come back to world of warplanes! the planes are op. basically this game is a CV game with all other ships being targets. the AA is so broken makes no since. all these comments about cv being useless is a joke. the fucking rocket fighters sank my sims 4 different times in 10 games. there is no missing the hit every time. planes were alot more fragle back then they couldnt take a 5 in flak and keep on fighting
I like the new game style of CVs. Only gripe I have is the torpedo aiming and the damage they inflict which is an absolute Joke. Hit a DD with one of my Midway torp planes and only did 2500 damage? Thats nuts. Even if by some miracle I manage to land all 6 torps on a target they do very little damage. They need to fix this by either improving the targeting or at the very least the damage of a torp.
The reason I've had even look this up as I am new to World of Warships online, is because no way in the online F1 help menu or in any of the guide menu's have I seen how the AA on my ship works or is activated or I found there was how to turn on/off the AA system nothing at all about how it works or what the range etc. is? And my ship even though it has tons of AA stations does not fire at the enemy planes automatic at all.. I checked the system was on by pressing the P key which turned off the AA, so I know it was on! And I not only been attacked by red enemy fighter and bombers and even torpedo planes in battle with a aircraft carrier I even yesterday had green our side planes attack me and they on our side? None of my AA guns fired and I can't even target any either? So they really need to have a clear simple full guide with videos to cover all the actions and upgrades! I even had trouble even picking which ship in the tech tree to have? It said must research the modules 1st to use that ship? Trouble is, lots of times the clicked on module will not have the research button on it to be able to research the module? Some will some won't... so without the research of them I can't get the ship in the next level. Great game but lots of problems.
Because there is only 1 squad in the air, this would piss off cvs completly. Before the rework as a example Lex got 4 squadrons which included 1 fighter 1 torp 2 dive, if he attacked with all his Ship fighting squads those would be 3 in total, then it would make sense but with only 1 squad now after the rework, useless
I think you need to rework on how fighter works, it is way too easy to shake them off, even if they caught the squadron, the damage they dealt are not better than ship AA, it kinda doesn't make sense how Carriers cannot control air anymore and protect allies from strikes because of this.
If you have *enough* constant DPS, the whole squadron evaporates because it's divided among all the planes in range. If you have [*enough - 1*] dps, no planes get shot down because it's divided among all the planes in range and they escaped with red hp. It's so frustrating to do massive AA damage but actually not shooting any of them down. Some penalty for heavily damaged planes?
To be fair I am playing wows only since these upgrades and I don’t find them bad at all.Yes it’s annoying that DDs don’t have strong AA fire but that’s the fun
There is something "unbalanced" here. My AA gets to be destroyed by HE bombs and shells as the battle progresses while the planes of a CV remain unlimited. In other words, if a CV wants me dead it can kill me no matter what. In other words your CV rework is awful. The AA rework, not system, is beautiful in terms of looks.
How play cv tiers 6 whith a lot of tiers 8 cruisers and bbs?.2000 dammages at the end of game......so fuuuun...how it works WG...when you are cv low tiers x2?
I'm a CV player and I don't like the part that the CVs have an aircraft factory inside. It is really disadvantage for enemy's. They only have limited consumables. I miss the old mechanic that has limited aircraft that will make us more careful when attacking enemy ships.
The AA is so powerful some games you just float around with an empty carrier. This is even worse when you see players with a 70% win rate which are all known hackers they let play.
Then give back the 5 second fires, 30 second floods, and 60 second DCP coverage. You can't have the massively increased protections and have it manual both. CVs are nearly immune to DOT now. They took 24% hp from a single fire pre-rework for comparison.
World of Warships Official Channel Dear WG, I like the change of the CVs from 0.8.0 ... but for god's sake, do something with the bloody fighters/attack aircraft. We (DD players) can't play on peace... we are being detected like nothing, set on fire and have our engines and rudder damaged like nothing, can't hide, run and barely evade... our teams are being spotted and the directions of the fleet are shown by planes that are going too fast and too high to be affected by AA. And in some cases we see that there are CV players that can't call fighters to help even themselves. DDs or any small ship can't YOLO or go ahead alone any more because it is detected by the attack aircrafts, damaged, incapacitated and set on fire by the rockets. And finally when you try to run you are singled by the enemy ships.
James Bond well, evading bombers with destroyers and cruisers was easy, you needed to go full left and when they were over you you turned rudder full right slowing down speed from full ahead to full reverse. Torpedoes were more tricky, the best technique was to face the torpedo planes or give them your aft... whichever of the 2 things you just needed to "thread the needle" between the torpedoes. Now if the torps came from your sides you needed to turn to face them ASAP, on those case turning the rudder full left or right and slowing down worked really well. After the update 0.8.0 the technic of evading torpedo bombers and dive bombers haven't changed. the problem are the fighters, rockets are harder to evade than the bombs because they spread on a circle but there are (depending of the tier and nation) a lot more. BTW... being sneaky, stealing the back of an enemy and ambushing them from behind islands is a play style, especially from tier V to VII (those are the tiers i like to play the most). Plus is not only about yoloing... a DD can go ahead, use it concealment to detect the enemy and come back.
in theory yes in reality no. Let me explain: say you have 12 planes in a squadron 11 get shot down and you have no reserves left on the deck of your cv you will only be able to send one plane out. The planes regen about 1 plane per minute so to get back to 12 planes you wait 12 minutes now let me remind you of how long a game is. 20 minutes so if you lose all your planes twice don't expect to be able to help your team for the rest of the game
Well done WG, a much more engaging update to WOWS, i used to not play my carriers much but no i do! theres less worry about fighting enemy fighters and having the rest of the squadrons stomped when you run out of them thanks to RNG. and you get to interact with the enemy ships on a better level than point, click maybe adjust attack angle and wait for RNG to sort it out. This is a very enjoyable update! not without some minor problems, but really nice all the same! keep up the good work.
How come the AA is so strong on higher tiers? A bit overpowered? When playing level 4, my Langley planes could fly 3 attack runs. On level 6, my Ranger planes barely survive 1 attack run
1:22 and 6:47 Upgrades were updated in version 0.9.1. The relevant list of upgrades, their descriptions and correct icons can be seen in the game client.
2:07 In Update 0.8.7, The mechanics and visualization of the priority AA sector system were updated.
2:25 In Update 0.8.7, the "Manual Fire Control for AA Armament" skill was replaced by the "Massive AA Fire" skill.
5:20 In Update 0.8.5.1, the description of the "Survivability Expert" skill was changed. The HP bonus to planes for each ship Tier of was changed from +15 to +25 .
How it works: AA defense in wows .... it doesnt
if CV can regenerate planes, why cant my AA gun regenerate too? facing combat ready planes at the of battle with heavily damaged defenses is seriously unfair
Can you update it on Xbox one for aircraft carriers please i can't buy it or find it😢
You're awesome
Another note about fighter
-They can be target by enemy AA
-Fighter won't attack enemy fighter/spotting aircraft in their patrol area
that's sound not good. do Fighter can scout Ship or not?
@@christakuzuma3147 Fighter Consumable from either Ship or Air group are not engage each other but they can be shot down by AA
Fighter,Spotting plane still function like normal except their vision must not blocked by terrain to spot ship
Fighter from ship that already destroy will still remain patrol and attack any plane beside fighter/spotting aircraft in area
If they do attack the enemy cv will just run away and if they get far enough, the fighter will give up
"How does AA work?"
*It doesn't*
RobsGamingWorld No, it works by adding small explosive smoke patches and lines that do nothing.
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WG managed to piss off both carriers and non-carrier players. Impressive.
They fucked up in the worst possible way.
@Maximilian L probably like controlling plane in 3rd peerson mode unlike me i like to play cv like before a top down view like a chess board with ships and planes as your caracter
@Maximilian L I played CV for it's strategic RTS like gameplay... if I want an action, I'd queue up with my BB or CL
now I have no other choice but stop playing... lower tier CV is a BB sinking simulator now, and higher tier CV is unrealistic plane crashing simulator
it's almost a year and people still complain about rework lmao
@@HarunaKaiNi almost a year don't magically make the mode better, in fact it just make lots of CV players quit, filled with newcomer who never tasted the previous gameplay so they have nothing to complain.
This Comments section is going to end up saltier than the Red Sea, was the rework an elaborate effort to close down Jingles' Salt Mines? :D
^
Lol
Do you mean dead sea?
Thanks for the info, but really, no one at WG thought we should have this info BEFORE the cv rework went live? Really? If your IT department planned a major rework of your computer systems, and scheduled the training for it weeks after the change was already in place, would they still be working there?
...no you can already learn all about it without this video lol its called wiki
They deleted the air Supremacy loadout!!! They deleted the second spot plane!!! They decreased the spot time of spotting planes!!! They deleted half of carriers!!! This upgrade was the biggest mistake of Wows!!! Its aqtually a downgrade!!!
I never got mine, but I was looking forward to the taihou, but now it's gone
I hope they add said cvs back into the game somehow, but it BETTER NOT COST STEEL
R.I.P CARRIERS, GODSPEED
I have not been on since the update, I hope I get my commander training back.
So true XD
CVS are op now
turning fighters into consumables
can you rename the episode to "how it works: ruining a good ship class"
How it works: It doesn't
I taught of the same thing and came to the comment section just to see if someone else think the same 😂
This is not right, i shot down one plane with my full on AA-equipped Montana at 4 CV attackruns [2 Tier VIII, 2 Tier X].. then it says back to port..
@@justoldschoolfrankie1111 Just watched Flamu shoot down 26 planes in a Montana post Hotfix game with a anti-DOT build + manual AA. Consistent dmg is killer now and he only had planes go near him a handful of times. You're downright lying.
@@justoldschoolfrankie1111 did you look at your plane damage as well? Might be someone else got the kills while you did the damage.
jhahahahah.. is the best answer
"Back in my day when you intercepted a squadron you made sure to completely destroy it"
'' How it works: AA gu-- ""
It doesn't.
AA doesn't work.
from the future : what's AA ?
@@rudrakshmishra2761 Anti-Aircraft
how it works: "'the year of cv' and 'the end of cv' happened in 1 week"
I thought this was supposed to be about AA and fighters. The whole video was about carriers.
I mean, still kinda was on point with the title.
Meh. There shouldn't be infinite aircrafts...
Oh Boy you never Played cv at the time the Video came out, let me describe, you wanna attack a montana with Torpedo bombers? Be happy to lose 11/12 planes of your group just because of the stupidity of your planes which fly into close Quarter combat AA and die in Half a second, cvs only have Half a group of the plane types on Reserve, after 6-7 Minutes in battle cvs would have no planes left
Afiq Mad he was referring to how it was before, originally before this patch you only had a set number
Afiq Mad yah, back then there was a finite amount and then that was that no planes for you.
Always manuevering and Changing your squadron speed, dude, we can't do it on attack run and that's mean start attk run = Dead or Miss
Next Episode: *_“How it works: reverting a bad update”..._*
now
Jaja además que pidan una disculpa pública y se retire el responsable de dicha calamidad.
my biggest complaints are the fighter consumable on carriers. It makes it really hard to actually provide cap for anything other than your own CV. 60 second cap is not sufficient. I think when activated on your attack squadron you should be able to manually assign them to defend a specific ship, area, or escort an attack squadron. They should persist until they run out of ammo, get destroyed or are bingo on fuel. I don't buy that they run out of either in 60 seconds of non-combat circling. I do find the auto launch of cap when your CV is spotted to be quite realistic and useful. I just feel that CV game play should be just as much about fighting the enemy CV's squadrons as it is attacking enemy ships. Also dedicated AA cruisers and DD need to be rewarded much more for shooting down planes! Right now there is not enough reward for escorting vulnerable capitol ships with your AA cruiser/DD's.
How it Works? More like "How we screwed it up"
pretty much 2 months on still broken af (though there are some small improvements i.e my entire squadron isn't being taken out by a single dd)
You guys need to sack some high level decision makers in your company. Yeah, it is that bad.
They dont work 🤣
Also the constant spotting from CV's, the damage CV rockets do to DD's and the best CV counter being RADAR cruisers has prevented DD's from existing.
If only there was a handy reminder for what video series I was watching every minute or so.
How it works: It deletes your aircraft from existence
*GOOD FUCK CARRIER PLAYERS*
@@TheReaper569 and screw you too.
thats right... is a desaster... we need the last version before the hot fix... is crazy the last hot fix... salem can explode you.. stalingrad can explode you in a second.. montana and more.. and cv no? players started to cry... but why??? drop the hot fix now
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#FixTheCVs
How it works: It dont, you nerfed the whole carriers, now they are useless...
Thats very good
Then watch the Mighty Jingles video on that and you will see that they are not useless at all
Nah, people that think the new CV are weak clearly have no idea what they are doing with them
CV's useless? Def not, they're not noob-friendly anymore
CV Very skilled player --- 8.0v --- any retarded can player cv now
this is the true
Thanks alot war gaming, you officially ruined the game and experience for me
There's nothing here I can use on blitz. I hate the CV's on blitz, it's just point and attack that ship, can't use any skill, 100% RNG.
RIP Detroyers players
Dear WG.
AA does not work - since you nerfed the range into the ground - there is no more the ability to cover friendly ships with your AA, unless they are less than 2 km from you ...
I mean, no. Here's a correct title:
AA and fighters: How they do *NOT* work
HOW IT WORKS... IT DON'T
SCI
What do you mean? This sounds great
#FixTheCVs
From to OP to total useless, why dodge the flak and sacrifice accuracy when your entire squadron gonna be obliterate in the end anyway
before hot fix CV been broken full AA desmoines and CV just atacked me all game ,3 plane kills,,,but i thing hot fix is just broke AA (OP) ,something midle is the sweet spot
How it works? Plans don't works now! They are all gone!
say good bye to premium cv... i want my money now
and we are now all left with shitty commanders with 7 points to AA skills
You practically ruined the game Wargaming. Revert the rework!
Coming right along!!
The CC are filled with so much hate to CV is stunning. If you never played this game you wohld think there is 1 CV in the game because know one talks about the other 9.
AA is so high now that you lose the while sq on every pass.
Sipan with t10 planes lost a while sq to 1 t8 bb and it was alone.
How it works: How to uninstall the game
hahahah.... who wants to play to get fire himself flying those flames on wings
And yet you still comment. Bye bye Felicia
As of 0.8.0.1 AA ridiculously overpowered, I’m taking out the Ryujo Tier 6 Cv at the moment trying to get to the tier 8, I’m constantly in Tier 8 games... the planes are so hopeless and the ship AA So strong I can’t do anything, on one game I was the last ship left and the enemy had a Massachusetts left with 2K HP, I attacked him with bombers, every one shot down before I could get close, and I avoided all the black flack.. then with torpedo planes, that are so slow ever one but 2 dies before they got to drop, but when I did drop the torpedoes are so slow the BB had no problem turning around and just out running them... balance the game WG for the love of god
Hotfix is broken when it comes to AA. WG balanced it from tier VIII - X. While it works there (kinda) lower tiers have useless AA and higher tiers shred lower tier cv
You went up against a heavily armed American Battleships and thought its 100 or so AAA would not shred your planes to bits?
This is a game, if your put up against opponents like that, you should be able to do something... point of fact a fairy swordfish managed to torpedo the Bismarck.. and lots of Vals and Zeros manage to sink the US fleet at Perl. This is a game and should have Balance so you can actually take part in a battle
That's pre 8.0 my full AA spec NC is now around 78 AA rating.
@@504smudge Bismarck's guns were calibrated for modern planes not WWI relics . Pearl Harbor was a surprise attack and Yamamoto held off the third wave since surprise was no longer there.
After that US ships had so much AAA that stories were told of how much led they could put into the air.
New to world of warships this past 2 mos
My suggested view of AA from ship side
Automatic Gunner AA hit rate: should be should be calculated with Type off AA being used with a moderate ammo expenditure. Noise and fire
Semi selection AA hit rate could be higher... if you use the select sector option .slightly more ammo usage for use those batteries firing
Manual target selection by keeping AA curser on individual or squadron .Concentrates fire with a higher hit rate if you can aim and move with target.
From CV A/C sortie...
Plane destroyed... your down 1
Damaged: time penalty for relaunch repair and rearm
Have a min setting on how many " rearmed and ready for combat planes" you select for an attack but can ignore ... but you will have fewer effective planes.
The old system was so very different, with a limited number of planes, an active fighter squadrone, and a trs like control on the map, rather than 3rd person pilotaction and therefore the capability to launch all three squadrones together.
Most of us miss that old system.
Personally I like the changes, just not the fact they took many if the carriers away
It does add some layers of fun to it but the fact fighters are a consumable and not something you can send out manually is kind of ridiculous in my personal opinion.
@@samsiegel4052 ya I definitely share that sentiment about the fighters, I've got friendly ships being pummeled by the enemies carrier craft but I'm bombing the guy in the cap so I can't give my ships any CAP
Smileyheckster Yes I feel that it should be altered immediately but otherwise I agree with what you said
sometimes planes are being hit by ships but airplane drop not written why ??
The Hakuryu is now a complete waste of time. I can't belive you also nerfed the speed of its torpedoes to 40kts! The most sluggish and slowest BBs can now avoid the torps, that is if you can even get your planes through the flak. Wasted real money buying doubloons to exchange for free XP so I could buy it. Bitterly disappointed. It did need some tweeking like the F spamming, but you guys went way overboard. All that time, hardwork and effort spent on developing the rework and you've completely botched it.
Tony Duffy, Ring Finder, Games and More I was in my FDG and out ran some trips from a Midway... quite literally tail chasing me and I out paced them... they can’t have tested this before putting it on the server
@@504smudge I changed captain skill on Hakuryu to torpedo acceleration to get some more speed out of them, but I had to get closer because the range was decreased. My planes were wiped out and I didn't hit a single torp in the game. It's complete madness. I'm more pissed off at myself that I spent real money on doubloons to get the Hakuryu. I should have waited to see how it panned out.
Great work but will submarines be added into the game? Sooner, later or never??
They said that they will never add submarines, however, you could have played a submarine in the latest Halloween event.
@@TrapCat They are going to add subs I remember reading it. my guess is about Christmas time
They're here and y'all hate them
“How to dodge the flaks”, Haha you don’t, you just drop.
please fix the AA for now. It deletes any planes no matter what you do tbh.
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nah, it's because you have 1 squad once
i played older version CV, you can stack ALL your squad once (3~4 including fighters) to make AAA not that useful
Nah.Imo Higher tiers appear to have no problem with cvs while lower tiers have massive problems
So now that you made CVs nearly useless, what´s next? One more thing on the fighter consumable ... MAKE THE DAMN THINGS FASTER.
nice, the only reason for playing CV is now gone... I've tried the new CV and I prefer the action of other ship types. I play this game for a full fledged warship battle after all, not a half asses plane crashing simulator. Strategic RTS like gameplay that the previous CV offered was on par with what I expected from this class of ship when fighting the other type of warships.
I can do what the CVs do at battle of midway or other WW2 real battles, do a real time maneuver to dodge torpedo bombers or any other kind of airplanes while my attack squadron launches a surveillance mission or attack the enemies WITH ESCORTS to maintain air superiority.
But now I'm playing as a crashing plane that can't even do kamikaze attacks facing unrealistic OP AA guns in an unrealistic AA guns utopia while my ship blindly move towards the incoming torpedoes uncontrollably... great! 10/10 very realistic
We need heal for dive bombers too!
Very hard to use them.
Yea maybe their original idea to have the dive bombers the heal was on point, also having more armor or slightly more HP would work too.
Concur.
@@ghs01965 after the hotfix I had to use them. And I learned how to bomb. Ofc I need more practice, but HE bombs are great. AP are even harder , since they have to be dropped from high altitude to citadel. If you drop them from low altitude it only makes regular pens or overpens. Though the high altitude sometimes makes you miss the target when it maneuver. So you should find "sitting" objects like Richelieu, Yamato, Musashi, Izumo , Nelson, Dunkerque or other CV .
DD player: FUCK NO
I find it a bit ridiculous that AA acts like a Damage over Time (DoT) instead of you know getting hit actually hurts you and punishing if you are not using strategy and flying in a straight line.
Instead the ships now that have semi-decent AA/Flak can just chew through over half your squarden regardless of their positioning, and maneuvering only really works on Flak. Good luck getting through that mass in even remotely good condition.
Guys, this is a difficult update. People want to love it but the balance is kinda broken. If the CVs are to overpowered, people exploit it. If AA is this strong, Planes can barely touch a ship without losing so many planes. Probably gonna be getting a few more updates on this.
Does anyone know that if the AA module has destroyed during battle, am I still capable of deal some damage to planes? 100%? or less? and what if I equip the parts like give more HP to AA module, am I take more damage from HE shells before the module got destroyed? and lastly is there anything that gives your AA gun more range?
Disliked the vid as it contained very little information about how to actually deal with planes from the receiving end.
Appart from blobbing up (which is crippling gameplay increasingly) and "Reeinforcing AA sector", how to for example deal with tripple stealth torping bombers, one-squad cross torps or with "DD go cap" when hunted by rocketplanes?
Let me guess: "Just dodge lol"
i find these videos a bit disappointing. not that they are done poorly at all. but the title is a bit misleading to a really inexperienced player. the title should be how to increase your skill. not HOW IT WORKS. what keys are used to do what? and when? choosing sectors. how to you activate the various tools you discuss? how does one select guns? ammo? how does one summon aircraft? the narrator talks about "all the tools available to you". how does one learn what they are and HOW THEY WORK? and so on and so forth.
i have only 20 or so battles under my belt at this time so i am not really qualified to have much of an opinion, nor do i even know what questions to ask, so please excuse me. i fully understand it takes 100s even 1000s of battles before most people have a clue. i am going to play the heck out of my bottom tier ships until i feel like i am accomplishing something with them and understand why. thank you!
The new system is generally OK. But the AA is way too strong,
It feels like you're controlling paper planes.
then don't attack American ships, its that simple. Aircraft dying in droves in war was a real thing but against less equipped ships they are very lethal. Heck I've been killed plenty of times in my french BB because it lacks the enormous AAA of my American ships but its still fun
@@Predator42ID I did not say that the new gameplay is not fun, but American ships or not, the planes just die too fast, and they do not do that much damage over all. The damage accumulates over time, but it is feel like sitting in a paper airplane and shooting with paper balls
1 squad is too few
i played CV in older version , even i stacked 3 attack squad attack 1 ship SAME TIME it can still MISS
I tink the planes are too powerful, now Destroyers are so hard to play.
attack DD's then. That's the primary reason DD's are gone now. If you can't attack any DD's go attack ships without reinforced AA like musashi St. Louis, Graf Spee, etc..
#plottwist it doesn't. End of story.
hahahaha... best opinion... far
HAKURU torps still OP a hell need nerf 2x or 3x the game is unplayeble anymore with any german ship in high tier
CVs need a big nerf, they are more tanki of BBs!!! this is bullshit!!!!
Also all these ""How it Works"" is a big bullshit because this is not a flight simulator, should be just a Ship X Ship combat
All the game become a bulshit with this mixed airplanes + Ships,you just screwed the game, there are no any How it Works
Man...you guys have an overall good game but have completely done a FUBAR job with the most important aspect of naval warfare. Carrier warfare. Look. Get yourselves a couple copies of Battle stations Midway and Pacific. Play it. Learn from it. Scrap the absolute garbage you've put out and start over.
5:39 Aircraft repair in the air? What is this Fortnite? Update: I forgot, what happens if the planes are on deck and caught by enemy dive bombers of HE fire? Are they magically repaired too?
Underted
i used to love this game. i took a few months off and come back to world of warplanes! the planes are op. basically this game is a CV game with all other ships being targets. the AA is so broken makes no since. all these comments about cv being useless is a joke. the fucking rocket fighters sank my sims 4 different times in 10 games. there is no missing the hit every time. planes were alot more fragle back then they couldnt take a 5 in flak and keep on fighting
I like the new game style of CVs. Only gripe I have is the torpedo aiming and the damage they inflict which is an absolute Joke. Hit a DD with one of my Midway torp planes and only did 2500 damage? Thats nuts. Even if by some miracle I manage to land all 6 torps on a target they do very little damage. They need to fix this by either improving the targeting or at the very least the damage of a torp.
Yea the AA works now a bit too much after the hotfix!
The reason I've had even look this up as I am new to World of Warships online, is because no way in the online F1 help menu or in any of the guide menu's have I seen how the AA on my ship works or is activated or I found there was how to turn on/off the AA system nothing at all about how it works or what the range etc. is? And my ship even though it has tons of AA stations does not fire at the enemy planes automatic at all.. I checked the system was on by pressing the P key which turned off the AA, so I know it was on! And I not only been attacked by red enemy fighter and bombers and even torpedo planes in battle with a aircraft carrier I even yesterday had green our side planes attack me and they on our side? None of my AA guns fired and I can't even target any either? So they really need to have a clear simple full guide with videos to cover all the actions and upgrades! I even had trouble even picking which ship in the tech tree to have? It said must research the modules 1st to use that ship? Trouble is, lots of times the clicked on module will not have the research button on it to be able to research the module? Some will some won't... so without the research of them I can't get the ship in the next level. Great game but lots of problems.
how it works simple : Press F to delete your entire squadron
hahahahahah so funny... i like the expression.. i agree absolutely
I don't like the fact that I cannot select a certain Enemy Squadron to destroy with my AA Flak anymore
Because there is only 1 squad in the air, this would piss off cvs completly. Before the rework as a example Lex got 4 squadrons which included 1 fighter 1 torp 2 dive, if he attacked with all his Ship fighting squads those would be 3 in total, then it would make sense but with only 1 squad now after the rework, useless
What this does is make playing CV. Worthless waste of time .Because you lose all your planes that do little damage so um yea not worth it
The new carrier's mechanic is terrible. I makes me not ever want to play as a carrier.
It feels silly that my regular cruiser can launch 4 seaplane fighters. Maybe they should add Aviation Cruisers and Battleships.
I guess that makes battleships like IJN "Ise" playable in the game really... BB/CV hybrid
I believe they actually had one in WW2 I think it was the york class it had guns on the right side for battling surface ships
How it Works: You can't please all the people all the time.
I think you need to rework on how fighter works, it is way too easy to shake them off, even if they caught the squadron, the damage they dealt are not better than ship AA, it kinda doesn't make sense how Carriers cannot control air anymore and protect allies from strikes because of this.
2018-2019
Me playing world of war ships
If you have *enough* constant DPS, the whole squadron evaporates because it's divided among all the planes in range. If you have [*enough - 1*] dps, no planes get shot down because it's divided among all the planes in range and they escaped with red hp. It's so frustrating to do massive AA damage but actually not shooting any of them down. Some penalty for heavily damaged planes?
8.0.1 is the worst for IJN CV, but nevermind,,, at least my entire squadron can reach 500+ Knots,, hahahahahahaha xD
Oh yeah! Please fix the hotfix ;D Edit: You increased short AA to 30 mm, not 25 ;)
How it works? IT DOESNT WORK
Stop calling your players stupid.
I've still have a question? Can we shotdown aircraft with turrets
To be fair I am playing wows only since these upgrades and I don’t find them bad at all.Yes it’s annoying that DDs don’t have strong AA fire but that’s the fun
This bullshit been nerfed yet? No? Then fuck this game until then
How about to include 25mm into mid-range AA? Majority of IJN ships use 25mm AA and it sucks even more than pre-rework....
There is something "unbalanced" here. My AA gets to be destroyed by HE bombs and shells as the battle progresses while the planes of a CV remain unlimited. In other words, if a CV wants me dead it can kill me no matter what.
In other words your CV rework is awful. The AA rework, not system, is beautiful in terms of looks.
AA is so unbalanced in tier viii look
Montana x vs lexington viii
The AA is broken
This update wasn’t the best but it doesn’t render CV useless.
My deepest condolences to IJN Paper Planes.
How play cv tiers 6 whith a lot of tiers 8 cruisers and bbs?.2000 dammages at the end of game......so fuuuun...how it works WG...when you are cv low tiers x2?
And then you get called a noob in chat by people that have never played CVs
I had a game where I couldn't do much, then I had a game, where I checked which boats have poor AA, and I went to them and got 50k+ damage.
Need kamikaze planes for cvs
I think most kamikaze squadron were land base not navy (training time issue...:) but a damage japanese navy plane will go for it !
Image that in 3 minute in game the CV already sink
To bad! Now is useless with the invincible planes!
I'm surprised that Wargaming hasn't thought of adding a fuel mechanic to aircraft yet...
"How It Works: AA Guns"
they dont lmao
I'm a CV player and I don't like the part that the CVs have an aircraft factory inside. It is really disadvantage for enemy's. They only have limited consumables. I miss the old mechanic that has limited aircraft that will make us more careful when attacking enemy ships.
AA works? I am died with the Cleveland by a cv xd
At least the Akizuki actually functions as an AA ship now. Arguably too well, but it can actually do what it was designed for.
The AA is so powerful some games you just float around with an empty carrier. This is even worse when you see players with a 70% win rate which are all known hackers they let play.
We dont like the Auto use of the Damage control party!
Then give back the 5 second fires, 30 second floods, and 60 second DCP coverage. You can't have the massively increased protections and have it manual both. CVs are nearly immune to DOT now. They took 24% hp from a single fire pre-rework for comparison.
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World of Warships Official Channel Dear WG, I like the change of the CVs from 0.8.0 ... but for god's sake, do something with the bloody fighters/attack aircraft.
We (DD players) can't play on peace... we are being detected like nothing, set on fire and have our engines and rudder damaged like nothing, can't hide, run and barely evade... our teams are being spotted and the directions of the fleet are shown by planes that are going too fast and too high to be affected by AA.
And in some cases we see that there are CV players that can't call fighters to help even themselves.
DDs or any small ship can't YOLO or go ahead alone any more because it is detected by the attack aircrafts, damaged, incapacitated and set on fire by the rockets. And finally when you try to run you are singled by the enemy ships.
James Bond well, evading bombers with destroyers and cruisers was easy, you needed to go full left and when they were over you you turned rudder full right slowing down speed from full ahead to full reverse.
Torpedoes were more tricky, the best technique was to face the torpedo planes or give them your aft... whichever of the 2 things you just needed to "thread the needle" between the torpedoes. Now if the torps came from your sides you needed to turn to face them ASAP, on those case turning the rudder full left or right and slowing down worked really well.
After the update 0.8.0 the technic of evading torpedo bombers and dive bombers haven't changed. the problem are the fighters, rockets are harder to evade than the bombs because they spread on a circle but there are (depending of the tier and nation) a lot more.
BTW... being sneaky, stealing the back of an enemy and ambushing them from behind islands is a play style, especially from tier V to VII (those are the tiers i like to play the most). Plus is not only about yoloing... a DD can go ahead, use it concealment to detect the enemy and come back.
I wish plane skins
How it works: It doesn't.
Este modo de juego es aburrido hasta cuando se ve en videos...
Can't wait until CVs or aircraft carriers are added to WOW LEGENDS
Same
Does that mean there are unlimited amounts of planes, just needing time for preparation?
in theory yes in reality no. Let me explain: say you have 12 planes in a squadron 11 get shot down and you have no reserves left on the deck of your cv you will only be able to send one plane out. The planes regen about 1 plane per minute so to get back to 12 planes you wait 12 minutes now let me remind you of how long a game is. 20 minutes so if you lose all your planes twice don't expect to be able to help your team for the rest of the game
Well done WG, a much more engaging update to WOWS, i used to not play my carriers much but no i do! theres less worry about fighting enemy fighters and having the rest of the squadrons stomped when you run out of them thanks to RNG. and you get to interact with the enemy ships on a better level than point, click maybe adjust attack angle and wait for RNG to sort it out.
This is a very enjoyable update! not without some minor problems, but really nice all the same! keep up the good work.
Why on earth was this not linked in the comments from the last episode :(
How come the AA is so strong on higher tiers? A bit overpowered?
When playing level 4, my Langley planes could fly 3 attack runs.
On level 6, my Ranger planes barely survive 1 attack run
CV are terrible to play now
i like the old system better
i love the new gamemode