Legendary Subaru EJ: 1,000-hp Performance, If You Want -- /ENGINEERED
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- [PART 1 of 2] Vince "Vince Built" Griffin from Prime Motoring, builder of 1,000-hp Subaru engines, delivers the lowdown on the legendary EJ. What are the advantages of an EJ, how much power can you expect, and more. Contents:
Advantages of the EJ: 1:23
Common Problems (and solutions): 2:12
Top-Mounted Intercoolers, Yes or No?: 4:38
How Much Power Can An EJ Make?: 5:39
Choosing a Downpipe: 7:40
Cats or No Cats?: 8:09
Exhaust Tubing (Choosing Sizes): 8:22
Manual Boost Controller vs Electronic: 8:53
Injectors: 10:04
Common EJ Build Mistakes: 10:44
The Importance of a Tune: 11:18
Block Reinforcement: 12:24
-- Sleeved or Closed Deck?: 13:10
Building for the Performance Application: 14:28
How Long Will it Last?: 15:22
What to Watch Out For: 16:20
How Do You Build For a New Customer?: 18:30
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Thank god for this video, this man is giving you what has taken me 2 years to gather in information and knowledge in just minutes.
Billy Purdy Absolutely Correct! The guy obviously loves and knows Subaru's at expert level. I'm engineer and IT degrees; became best at areas I loved!
No kidding
We’re are you guys located at and we’re can I contact for a future build by you ! Thanks for all the great advices in this video. Lots Knowledge🙏🏻
All motors are the same. They each have their own unique flaws but the Subaru motor in 4 cylinder form is actually really strong comparatively. It makes serious torque, and if not tuned for it will break the stock parts
I love hearing from people who actually do everything we spend hours researching to try to figure out what we should do. They know, you listen. Awesome video.
Cameron Lancaster yeah I learned something and I love that
"you know" :)
I prefer to believe youtube people
I'm glad my dad give me a Phillips screwdriver when I was 5 and him and my mom woke up and the bottom 2 door hindges and all the car headlights where out of the cars lol thats all I could reach
A true engine builder, with true knowledge, thank you so much for sharing this! Vince could easily charge a small fortune for this information but shares it for free, the Subie community is blessed!
i actually didn't even notice what everyone was talking about. I was listening to all the priceless/amazing information he was telling us`
Trunksu RIGHT!!!! Dude seems so normal and this video is great
As a Subaru enthusiast and after breaking a lot of engines and learning the hard way, I can say this guy know his stuff. A little addition to his comments, always upgrade the oil pump too, to 11mm or 12mm if is possible. Very nice video!
efrain kennedy the newer STi's bring 11mm pumps from the factory. However if I could go back I would definitely add a few things and not say "ya know" as much.. lol
Vincent Griffin Awesome man... I really didn't even notice the "you know" thing... Because I just wanted to hear and learn your facts! Thanks for sharing your knowledge!
Vincent Griffin I didn't notice until I read the comments. Didn't bother me I was so absorbed my wife got mad. I love subies.
I tried to build my own EJ205.... I made a mistake and choose a turbo that was too big. The turbo lag is way much for my application (time attack). Thanks for your advice, I wished I saw this video earlier. Building engines is fun!
efrain kennedy - DRY-SUMP ! ! ! stop wasting money/time . . .
Was coming here to see a 1000HP sti, was not disappointed with this at all. Awesome video, a lot of people don't realize what it takes to make that kind of power. They just think you bolt some stuff on your car and go. It would be cool if you guys made a video actually assembling the block as well as the turbo/piping/fuel system etc.
Ive learned so much from this video. I would pay this guy money to help me plan out my build any day of the week.
I watched this video a few years ago, made mental notes and now my 05 sti that I've had since 2010 has a fully built iAG closed deck short block with built heads fuel system and a cobb access port, capable of 750 tuned for just over 500 at the wheel. Completely reliable daily driver that I love to drive, this content had a huge hand in that so, thank you! Almost forgot about the hypermax HKS coil overs and t-sloted rotors so I can stop quickly.
SOLID content, CLEARLY knowledgeable, and NOT obnoxious. Thank you, I learned a lot.
You know
God that guy is killing me with the"You know"
was just going to comment this.. only 9 minutes in lolol
lol that's hilarious. I didn't even notice it till you pointed it out. Now that's all i can hear.
I know, I know.. .. .. .. ow 😂
Kinda sort of. Yeah. You know.
Great video vince. I picked up my 11' Wrx a few months ago and im still learning a lot, this video had a lot of great info.
Great info, so glad you made this video. A lot of the stuff you mentioned carries over to any 4cyl build trying to go 500whp n up. Thanks for sharing.
🔹 Great video guys, so much good advice packed into one video - LOVE it! You guys are building some awesome engines and putting down some LEGIT numbers!
Your shop has clearly spent some serious time committed to developing this platform and raising the bar for the entire Subaru community - THANK YOU!
He's back at rallispec now. Prime has become a place for high dollar builds only. Underdogs not welcome with less than 10k to spend , dont get me wrong they do know their stuff and are running a business so they need to make money. Went there once and that's the vibe i got.
Thanks for the great insights. There are many comments which are useful to consider when upgrading not just a Subaru engine, but petrol engines regardless of make. Thumbs up!
Digging the ChiTown Subies decal at 7:54! Good stuff man, keep it up.
I've been working on ej most my life and I love them
I am just about to do a build and needed this bad, lol. Thank you for the info Vincent Griffin!
Keep doing more video, man. The more you do, the better you will be in front of camera.
Best wishes to you sir.
Thanks for being so candid and putting it out there. Learned a lot of vital information. Big share.
Great video, you guys should make more like this on different platforms... is always great to hear people who have loads of experience share what they've learnt over the years
Loved this, thank you for doing this Vincent.
I love these types of videos!
That was the most educational 20 minutes I've spent on the subject of how to approach tuning my car.
Thank you very much.
So much good info here. I've watched it about 5 times now. Watch it again after a couple months.
My problem with Subaru tuners is finding frendly tuner dudes who don't make you feel like your walking on egg shells asking questions or lying to pad their pockets (13 year ASE mechanic, I know when you bs me!).
I've been building and tuning cars for a long time (it's my job) and never had to deal with such rude people when asking about limits & whatnot's for need be's.. I might be new to Subaru turbo tuning but come on..
It's the mean dyno shop people who make me want to excell in Subaru peformance so that kind people get fixed up right, never brushed off for wanting to understand something.
This dude seems nice, like takes B12 vitamins, chillen in the A/C out of derect sunlight kind of nice. I'd give him my money for that alone. Folks like him seem far n few and that needs to change, I'm sure it won't be long.
Love this video thanks Vince
Sebastian Reyes thanks for the kind words man 👍🏼
Amazing information man! Definitely cleared up a lot of questions I have had about different builds and applications. Thanks
This was an incredibly informative video. Thank you Vince and since your local I’ll definitely look into coming to see your guys in person.
He's back at rallispec now building engines there, i finished a motor with one of his bottom ends not too long ago
Highly informative, what an awesome video. Thank you for the knowledge.
"not really a big fan of the FA" (pans to RB26 swapped FRS lol)
Zack Mabry this comment actually made me lol
underrated comment
Busy 2jz swap my Sti hatch , but with my Process west intake on my coffee table I do miss ej 😅 till it breaks again 🤬
This is awesome these guys really give strong advice about Subaru’s and how to either have a fun daily or a fast build the right way thank you and keep up the good work!!!
One of the easiest to understand, informative videos I’ve watched. Thanks The Drive 👍
More of this, real tech, no bull.
Fantastic video, thanks for sharing all your experience Vince. New to the STI world, so I definitely learned a lot.
Some really good info in there, thanks for sharing some advice with us all. Will definitely consider an Air/Oil Seperator sooner rather than later now. Great video
This guy's knowledge and ability to articulate points make this a pleasure to watch. Love to have a video of him talking us through an engine build, or speccing process.
Came here for Subaru content but wasn't expecting those R33's!
well damn, dude knows his trade.
ya know
Daniel Summerill I don't know, but you know he knows
some of this knowledge is over my head but I still appreciate the fact that you took your time to share it candidly so kudos to you. Even if 90% smack-talk, no one will remember their words but the 10% who influenced and inspired by your video will probably never forget you and your words.
Nice video you know, I really enjoyed watching it you know. Keep the good stuff up you know.
Great video👍👍👍
I was just fascinated with all the knowledge he was dropping, then I scroll down after the vid and see 50, 000 you know memes. Pay attention you might learn something.
we know!
Their puny brains can't focus on the core message.
@@sonofagreatsouthernland I know, you know?
@@thedon9670 hhahaaaa if you don't know by now....hahaaa
Thank you for this free, really educated info on my favorite engine! Maybe some day I'll get crazy with it.
Just got off the phone with these guys. I'm giving it an ample 6 months before I'm finally ready for this build. Thank you for your time, guys.
I believe ignorant drivers are the #1 reason Subarus break 😕
Cirilo Ocon Don't break if you know how maintain them correctly for your usage & application
My gaskets havent been replaced since 2010 in my 2004 impreza lel
Or maybe because the EJ25 is a weak motor in Stock form... seems like subaru is pushing the little stock turbo and fuel system from factory... That's pretty wild that the factory tune is unable to add enough fuel to compensate for an aftermarket intake...
2 exhaust valves dropped at 100K on 100% stock car ($4500 to repair at dealer).
Cirilo Ocon truth!
Thanks for sharing your expert knowledge Vince. I found it all very interesting. Cheers from Australia 🍻
I just got my first subaru. 2020 sti. I love the car and plan on building once my warranty is up. I've learned alot in a short amount of time from guys like this. Awesome video!
so is not fast enough?
These types of videos are the best ones on your channel imo
Loved your video Vincent Griffin! Awesome for you to share your knowledge. Everything you said was dead on with how a EJ motor should be handled, built, maintained. Thanks man.
please do this with other engines
Like some good ones maybe
4g63
Liam S: Jafromobile would be the men for that
Turn up the god damn brightness
Uhhh he's a subie guy and there's only one real platform so which other engines ?
So glad I found this site! Owned six different Subaru's since 1999 and Love their engineering and desire for excellence. While other manufacturers make dozens of engine designs Subaru takes one and keeps making it better!
That was tight ya know. Enjoyed this very much
great informative vid.
Great vid. I work on EJ's everyday and this guy knows what he's talking about. Thanks for the upload
Thanks for sharing your knowledge man. Skilled at your craft, it's clear - but with a refreshing mix of humility. True master.
Awesome video- still going over and over again!
Watching this video brings me back to when I built my ej257 for my bugeye, good times and still running strong👍
I can tell you're not used to being on camera but I'm sure you know your stuff.enjoyed the video Vince. Thanks
Justin Boss 😂
The mech a nic I can tell you are a goof.
Boosted Beast 😂
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Thanks for that - very interesting. And nice how you provided a considered response to each question.
@vincebuilt thanks for passing on the knowledge, so good to actually get to see you talk shop!
But can it outrun an ae86 down mount Akina?
Anatoli Ashgenazi better chance of him giving birth to barbed wire sideways
Anatoli Ashgenazi
No, but Bunta can in his STI.
still a 207 which is miles better than the 25 lol
I mean a stock 22b already did ;)
that wasn't a 22b, it was a Type R Version V
"You know"
Great video, answered a lot of questions, and created quite a few more. thanks!
Great video, lots of knowledge here for those that aren't as familiar. Keep it going!
Solid advice man. I've been a Subaru tech for 8 years oem and aftermarket and you are 100% correct. Racing isn't cheap, and builds don't last forever
Dude, they're totally reliable if you just, you know, change everything...
The reason big power OEM cars last is because they come from the factory with these parts....but you're also paying $60-120grand. So yeah, upgrade everything to make that 450hp at 28psi last...this isn't shocking news.
If you don't overdo it with the tune will factory parts this car will last you 4ever. It's a budget sportscar, what do you fuckers expect?
@@shitilearnedonyoutub it's a rally car it's not meant to have tons of power
@@Johnny-tq9no real rally cars have 500hp
@@flampy1 lol no
I'm looking at getting out of my FR-S and into a 2016 ish STI, so I'm doing research on the EJ25. This video was very helpful, thank you!
Much more insight than your typical mechanic interview
TY
Great vid. I follow Vince on Instagram. Good stuff. I wish we could have seen your opinion on EL and UEL headers. Still, great material and thanks for making the video.
Brandenburg008 equal length always better. Never could understand why the Subaru crowd is the only crowd who can't understand this.
From what I've seen on the forums, people get it, but the sound is more important to some people than the extra hp.
I think a lot of Subaru owners put faith in the countless hours of R&D that went into designing and making the factory setup, which obviously include the UEL. At least, that would be my guess. Again, I wish I would have seen Vince's opinion on it. EL makes complete sense for performance, just curious to hear his opinion.
when you're racing or using your car for a specific application, obviously you want performance (EL). But, I wouldn't trade the massive smile that my car gives me every morning for anything. So if it's a daily I usually say keep the UEL, keep the character.
I didn't know, but after exactly 140 'you know's, I finally know.
Haha na loved it, dude knows his shit. I actually counted though.
Did you count the you knows because you don't understand anything he said? He knows his stuff. You should listen, you might learn something.
Carlos bro Your comment unfortunately is not valid as you still took time to count how many times he was saying a nervous "you know"...
You have to learn how to laugh at yourself sometimes lads. This dude knows a shit ton and mad respect!
OK, I apologise. Didn't mean for the disrespect.
Carlos bro I was looking for a count, I'm glad I'm not the only one who was wondering
Great video and very knowledgeable. I definitely learned something, Thanks so much Vince.
Great interview! Thx, Vince!
Cool video made me appreciate the EJ more. One question that should of been asked is how much power can the stock block handle?
2strokeFORever From the video I would assume that was his point in saying people start having issues around the 550 hp mark and that's when they would sleeve or run closed deck blocks.
The block is fine its the cast pistons that are the problem, i woudnt recommend going over 380hp on it.
Man there should be one of these for 1JZ and 2JZ
FNM Sam The 2jz , 4g63, and the srt4 engine are examples of what Subaru should of done 12 years ago... Pretty disappointing that a simple bolt on/tune setup is pushing the limits of the stock STi bottom end...While srt4 and Evo engines are reliably handling 400+whp big turbo setups.
Can't wait for part 2
Jr tunes are solid! Currently running one of his tunes & my STi has been great. Getting a bigger turbo & will be retuned by Jr in 2 weeks! Also, shout out to that Moore Performance decal! Lol. Great video! Solid info!!
haha @ 5:55 common question asked to someone trying to make quick power on Subarus. I am at 367whp(injector limited) and holy crap its fast. My setup is estimated to reach mid 400whp, and I am already pretty scared lol. Anything below 120mph it scoots pretty fast, I got some videos on low boost. Reaching 400whp on a WRX/STI is stupid quick. E85 makes torque come on so fast and hard. Great video, everytime I have a new subaru owner ask me for advice I pretty much tell them all of this. I spent a lot of time on NASIOC and getting the info can be a bit tedious.
EDIT: for the AOS, did you mean the 'STREET" AOS? there is 2 different kinds and people tend to get the one that doesnt run the hot water through it to eliminate condensation for daily driven E85 cars.
No. He meant the competition series because it eliminates the PCV entirely. Routes to atmosphere. Street series recirculates through the factory system.
All y'all commenting about "Ya know" let's see you build a 1000HP car, letalone a Subie, hell I bet alot of you don't even have a cool car.
Let alone a good percentage probably dont even know how to change a tire.
you say that like....you know....like you know!
Problem with this build is it's nowhere to be found.....aka it has blown up, and he doesnt want anyone to know....
This video is absolutely awesome!! Thanks for sharing all this knowledge!!!
Hey Vince, thanks for the video! I learned a lot.
Im hoping Vincent will see this but what is your theory in breaking in a built motor? I have heard many different methods and ways with both good and bad results. Mine was broken in the 50 miles break in oil, then change with break in oil again for 300 miles then regular oil. I've heard some beat the shit out of it as its suppose to break in seals, others just let it idle forever and let it break in slowly, I've heard many things. what do you do?
gavin P do the oil brake in but don't Don't beat the shit out of it. You can beat the shit out of it after you brake it in. Go 3000 miles brake in first 50 miles oil change than 500 miles and then to 3000 miles another one and after then beat the shit out of it. That's the whole reason of braking the engine internal mold with each other and then u can hit it hard
Where this shop at so i can take my wrx to worked on?
Austin's Adventures where in NJ cuz i live in NJ lol
Wallington, NJ
Subiekid6 thank you
They do amazing work in a good amount of time
racinggamer91 night rider You lucky man.
Nice to see how much time and effort he puts into what he does . GREAT JOB 👍👍🏁🏁
Awesome information! Loved the video and it is truly educational for most wannabe builders or those looking to have their cars built.
That's crazy!!! He went from 0 to 149 "You know" under 20 minutes!!
You know you know when he says you know.
You know.
Plunder Gaming you know da way you know
I might be a few years behind but this bloke has just made me seal the deal on a 2021 wrx sti , I'll be aiming for 700 awh , being in Australia i wish I had the access to wrx performance shops like you have in the states .... great video
Wow.. excellent stuff man...keep it coming...i definitely learned alot.. Thank you!
A tuning shop is not a tuning shop unless you have Skylines lying around!!! Shop approved!
Agent Smith they also have a rb brz 🤙
Agent Smith rb26 that is
This video came in at a good time. I've been researching for months trying to build my ej22t properly, and this gave me a lot of good insight. Thank you /Drive and Vince
Ej22t the godly engine ❤
Thank for the info I'll definitely check u guys when im ready for a engine
great vid do more!!!! can't get enough of this type of content
Anyone here else cringe a little when he used the cordless impact gun to start the water pump bolt? I'd always prefer to start it off by hand. Also helps to line it up using two screwdrivers to help align the pump and gasket to the block.
Dont like subaru but this video was great. would be a good series visiting other engine builders.
Thanks for ur time bro!!!
great video. lots of good information explained with simplicity.
Aka... The Wizard..👊
we know :D
Very informative, and enjoyable.
I learnt so much from this dude. Very knowledgable. Thanks man