thank you for keeping me distracted these last several days. I ended up in the emergency dept at hospital and ended getting surgery and spent 3 days recovering. Laying around recovering now.
This is needed on Essingeleden in Stockholm, but the speed limit is 70. I fear for my life in rush hour or even on Saturdays trying to reach the far left lane to exit (it was built before we started driving on the right). My husband is my lane change assistant!
Another great video Chris ! Thanks a lot ! So apart Travel Assist Swarm Data, what's new for early adopters in this 3.0 update ? The 2.4 update seems to be very interesting for the battery part but what about 3.0 without the side sensors only present in the new vehicules ?
Chris, thanks very much for this. Really interesting developments. I'm sure my UK spec ID4 1st edition won't benefit from this (built March 2021), but this will be a cool feature to have if I trade it in for a future ID Space Vizzion in a few years.
I test drove a Cupra Born yesterday and fell in love with it. I genuinely want to order one but the whole plan has been screwed up as it seems you can’t order one with the Pilot L option on it. So no proper assisted driving features.
What do you mean with no proper driving assist? Is the travel assist of my "old" ID.3 part of Pilot L and the currently available Pilot M+ does only support lane assist? That would be the whole story all over again, as I didn't get the side sensors on my ID.3 back then...
Great video however it all updates only apply to the highest specification cars those of us that don't have the side sensors doesn't get any updates it appears which is probably 80% of people
Great video. Hopefully swarm data will solve the problems of the ID thinking the speed should be something that is clearly wrong. We have a local road which is 40mph (road signs along the road too) and yet it sets the speed to 110mph, which is so dangerous. Who can this be reported too? It would be nice if there was an option (similar to the old TomTom sat navs) whereby you can teach the software to know what the correct speeds should be.
The ACC is unusable unless you set the car to ignore all speed limits. Aside from hard braking from 120 to 70 for no reason once or twice an hour, is then returns to the speed limit, regardless of what speed you had set. So if you're going at 110 and it hard brakes to 70 (because for some reason it thinks it is in a 70 limit) when it thinks the limit is 120, it then accelerates up to that, instead of the 110 speed you had it set at. It's like it does the difficult stuff well, and the simple stuff terribly.
Thanks for the video and nice to see some new features,, do you think they all going to be in cupra born? Or only some features will pass to cupra, Skoda etc??
@@BatteryLife Yeah I have all the sensors - it was delivered this year - and it even has the option on (Travil Assist with Assisted lane change) but it doesn't seem to do the lane change. It shows the two arrows on the display and the arrow even turns completely white indicating it can do the lane change but then it just wants me to manually perform it. Am I missing something?
@@BatteryLife Yea i saw but it seems loads of people on Facebook et. are saying their late-2021 cars from later didn't have them, so I don't know. It's all very mysterious! Perhaps in July, some were able to get them but not all? Either way, even if was July.. can't be many of the overall pool of vehicles to date. I just think it's overall a shame - given the demo preproduction cars had them - that the higher-end specs from the start didn't include them. id have been happy to pay via software upgrade even on my (November 2020) 'Tech' if VW had put them in. Of course, all these features are 'nice to have and not indispensable but it irritates when you buy the 'Tech' spec (which is all basically nice to have like HUD ) that half the tech is now basically missing. I think Tesla has better understood this and will upfront the hardware costs to ensure future service-enabled revenue. Either way, i would like to stress how i do appreciate your videos /posts - you do a good job for the community. VW themselves, should, i think for later accountability reason, be more direct and provide a detailed breakdown of what is coming, to whom, which models etc. It would calm a lot of people down. There should be a nice table and fact sheet for us somewhere - perhaps you could do it if they dont ;)
Greate video as always! However I'm not clear on exactly what cars will get the new features. I have ordered an ID3 Family arriving in July. Which features will I get? I can't see any info from VW on this.
Thanks so swarm data created only by VW ID vehicles that have historically been down that road before (ie not real time and not generated by other traffic).
Has the pACC improved? The "predictive" part in the pACC is not working at all on curvy country side roads because almost all speed limitations due to curves are wrong and it is driving much too fast on those roads.
Hey Chris, do you know if or when the ID comes with an illuminated slider for temperature and volume? Maybe you can ask someone from vw and get an answer. I'm waiting for this feature since i got my Golf and was very disappointed about this fail. Wanna change to the ID but only with the illuminated slider.
Ok, thanks for your answer :) I really hoped that vw it would change quicker with a small facelift or something else. Interesting how resistant vw is against all the criticism about the slider. They ignore it and go on with this bad solution.
Another great video Chris! Do you know what are the requirements for park assist and travel assist? You’ve mentioned side sensors, but is that on the left and right side, or just the corners? I only seem to have sensors on the corners of my car, rather than the actual sides. Just trying to work out if my mid-2021 ID3 Life Pro Performance will be able to utilise these new features!
@@BatteryLife Ill have a look. I wonder if it's part of UN stuff like the restrictions on % of wheel turn when in Travel Assist etc, or EU transposed Lane guidance etc regs.
Hi, I would like to know if you had activated "travel assist" through OBD eleven, if so can you tell me the steps to do this please? I have ID4 pro with 3.0 software
I love travel assist but for me the worst part is that for some reason it "always" gets too close to Lorries "elsewhere called Semi or trucks" on the Motorway and I can't see this change without the side sensors. I find it frustrating that VW knew of this swarm feature and didn't even equip 2021 models with the side sensors, mine was built in July and delivered Mid October 2021. My 2021 travel assist will soon be obsolete, that's a bit of a joke!!!!!
(Sorry to spam here again but you are the font of all knowledge - ) but .. did VW give a reason/idea why we can't have 3.0 at the same time as 2,4 (and even installed by the dealers while we are at it) ? I mean I'm just wondering what the delay is all about! It clearly exists - you used it!
@@BatteryLife Let's just hope - for customers and VW alike - the 3.0 arrives more efficiently and reliably than 2.1 otherwise it'll be the same 9-month saga all over again! I still think it's WILD they didn't design them to come via , with an option, one's own Wifi connection (which you can set up in the car, but is utterly useless right now)
But what If there is roadconstruction and they force cars to one lane (opposite side) Will Swarm data know the difference? Or Will it use that side it used to be on when learning. Even the american brand do not let everyone ”teach” the car where to drive.
Im not sure swarmdata Will be usefull in places where few id cars are (i have only seen a few private own id cars where i live) But i appaude vw for doing the updates. Should have been released a long ago thou.
Sure mate. "Way ahead". Is Volkswagen already at the point where they can deliver working cars with OTA? Or do they still direct people to dealers for simple software updates?
Awesome video as always.
Finally an automaker other than Tesla that uses the information from their fleet of data collectors.
thank you for keeping me distracted these last several days. I ended up in the emergency dept at hospital and ended getting surgery and spent 3 days recovering. Laying around recovering now.
Sorry to hear that! Get better!
This is super cool, I wish I could set the ACC to +5 limit not just the adaptive speed that I definitely enjoy right now
They need to bring this to the ID.4 in the US ASAP
Very excited for this, hopefully it will make the wait for my ID.3 Max worthwhile.
This is needed on Essingeleden in Stockholm, but the speed limit is 70.
I fear for my life in rush hour or even on Saturdays trying to reach the far left lane to exit (it was built before we started driving on the right).
My husband is my lane change assistant!
This was a great video Chris. Very informative and entertaining 😂. Can't wait for more content.
Hopefully they can bring this to the US ID.4 models
Another great video Chris ! Thanks a lot ! So apart Travel Assist Swarm Data, what's new for early adopters in this 3.0 update ? The 2.4 update seems to be very interesting for the battery part but what about 3.0 without the side sensors only present in the new vehicules ?
Nice VW at last sorting out the bugs... Might consider Cupra Born as next EV
Great video and great feature swarm data!
Fair play to you Chris. Great videos!
Chris, thanks very much for this. Really interesting developments. I'm sure my UK spec ID4 1st edition won't benefit from this (built March 2021), but this will be a cool feature to have if I trade it in for a future ID Space Vizzion in a few years.
I test drove a Cupra Born yesterday and fell in love with it. I genuinely want to order one but the whole plan has been screwed up as it seems you can’t order one with the Pilot L option on it. So no proper assisted driving features.
Yep, stacked my order yesterday, from front to back of the queue for me now..
What do you mean with no proper driving assist?
Is the travel assist of my "old" ID.3 part of Pilot L and the currently available Pilot M+ does only support lane assist?
That would be the whole story all over again, as I didn't get the side sensors on my ID.3 back then...
Great video however it all updates only apply to the highest specification cars those of us that don't have the side sensors doesn't get any updates it appears which is probably 80% of people
But do you really need it?
Well there is still lot of charges for People without side sensors. You don't need todo the upgrade just use the old version then
@@BatteryLife are you saying it is a gimmick ?
I am really excited for the ID.4 in Canada.
4:44 How can it lose the road completely? 😳
6:35 I hope travel assist can access the navi that is in every ID car and lookup which road you are on?
Great video. Hopefully swarm data will solve the problems of the ID thinking the speed should be something that is clearly wrong. We have a local road which is 40mph (road signs along the road too) and yet it sets the speed to 110mph, which is so dangerous. Who can this be reported too? It would be nice if there was an option (similar to the old TomTom sat navs) whereby you can teach the software to know what the correct speeds should be.
Yes at some point.
Is it gonna use swarm data to correct the errors in speed limits there are in places?
At some point, not yet.
The ACC is unusable unless you set the car to ignore all speed limits. Aside from hard braking from 120 to 70 for no reason once or twice an hour, is then returns to the speed limit, regardless of what speed you had set. So if you're going at 110 and it hard brakes to 70 (because for some reason it thinks it is in a 70 limit) when it thinks the limit is 120, it then accelerates up to that, instead of the 110 speed you had it set at. It's like it does the difficult stuff well, and the simple stuff terribly.
Thanks for the video and nice to see some new features,, do you think they all going to be in cupra born? Or only some features will pass to cupra, Skoda etc??
Software will go to Skoda and Cupra, but not all features.
you can always activate your travel assist with obdeleven ;)
But you need the capacitive steering wheel.
Thec/Max have differnent Stearing wheel then life/style/bussnise?
How does the Lane Change work? My ID.3 has Software 3.2.0 but I don't seem to get how to initiate the lane change with travil assist enabled
You need the sensors. Was your car built after March 2022.
You can switch it on in Assist Travel Assist.
To use it the display has to show the arrows, the indicator on and hold the steering wheel
@@BatteryLife Yeah I have all the sensors - it was delivered this year - and it even has the option on (Travil Assist with Assisted lane change) but it doesn't seem to do the lane change. It shows the two arrows on the display and the arrow even turns completely white indicating it can do the lane change but then it just wants me to manually perform it. Am I missing something?
@@BatteryLife guess it was a bug, I turned it off and on in the Assist menu and now it seems to be working
Travel Assist is so amazing!!!!!!!
Hi, can you demonstrate the new 3.0 route planner and comment if the infotainment is less laggy than before? Thanks!
In a week yes. I will get a press car with 3.0
But the side sensor it's necessary for the lane changing or for the Travel assist too?
For swarm data and lane changing
It must he such a tiny % of ID3 that can benefit at this point. It seems all vehicles produced before December 2021 didn’t have them!
I thought it was from July on, I could be wrong.
@@BatteryLife Yea i saw but it seems loads of people on Facebook et. are saying their late-2021 cars from later didn't have them, so I don't know. It's all very mysterious! Perhaps in July, some were able to get them but not all? Either way, even if was July.. can't be many of the overall pool of vehicles to date. I just think it's overall a shame - given the demo preproduction cars had them - that the higher-end specs from the start didn't include them. id have been happy to pay via software upgrade even on my (November 2020) 'Tech' if VW had put them in. Of course, all these features are 'nice to have and not indispensable but it irritates when you buy the 'Tech' spec (which is all basically nice to have like HUD ) that half the tech is now basically missing. I think Tesla has better understood this and will upfront the hardware costs to ensure future service-enabled revenue. Either way, i would like to stress how i do appreciate your videos /posts - you do a good job for the community. VW themselves, should, i think for later accountability reason, be more direct and provide a detailed breakdown of what is coming, to whom, which models etc. It would calm a lot of people down. There should be a nice table and fact sheet for us somewhere - perhaps you could do it if they dont ;)
@@BatteryLife My car is produced September 2021 and does not have side sensors.
Will this require side sensors or is the radar on the ID4 1st Max sufficient?
Side sensors
Will also requirem two radar sensors in the rear
Greate video as always! However I'm not clear on exactly what cars will get the new features. I have ordered an ID3 Family arriving in July. Which features will I get? I can't see any info from VW on this.
Sorry, I only know the thing with the sensors, not what cars have it.
@@BatteryLife Not your problem :-) Maybe VW will be clearer when we're closer to release date.
Great video! Watching from Texas! Did they have any more info on the US id4s update time line?
Watch my 3.0 software video, mentioned there
Really sad this feature isn't there for ID.3 1st editions. Really bums me out: be the first to NOT get the good new features.. Makes me sad.. :(
Thanks so swarm data created only by VW ID vehicles that have historically been down that road before (ie not real time and not generated by other traffic).
From meb and mqb
Has the pACC improved?
The "predictive" part in the pACC is not working at all on curvy country side roads because almost all speed limitations due to curves are wrong and it is driving much too fast on those roads.
Works well on mine. Depends on the road, I guess.
Will get better with swarm data.
Just to be sure - will the swarm data be available for 1st editions with travel assist? I know lane change isn't available
I will ask. I don't think so
Hey Chris, do you know if or when the ID comes with an illuminated slider for temperature and volume?
Maybe you can ask someone from vw and get an answer. I'm waiting for this feature since i got my Golf and was very disappointed about this fail.
Wanna change to the ID but only with the illuminated slider.
This will only change if they do a facelift in a few years.
Ok, thanks for your answer :)
I really hoped that vw it would change quicker with a small facelift or something else. Interesting how resistant vw is against all the criticism about the slider. They ignore it and go on with this bad solution.
Another great video Chris!
Do you know what are the requirements for park assist and travel assist? You’ve mentioned side sensors, but is that on the left and right side, or just the corners? I only seem to have sensors on the corners of my car, rather than the actual sides.
Just trying to work out if my mid-2021 ID3 Life Pro Performance will be able to utilise these new features!
I posted pictures yesterday. They are on the side almost at the tires.
@@BatteryLife Is impossible to install the sensors & all the stuff required for the new features in an "old" ID?
Is Swarm data for Travel assist on all vehicles?
No, sensors are needed for the car to recognize the area.
Is this in the software update for the 2gen id.3 as well?
In all id cars build from summer 2022 on, if you get the park assist plus function
I’d like to see the legal text regarding lane change requirements. Do you have the reference ?
Sorry, no
@@BatteryLife Ill have a look. I wonder if it's part of UN stuff like the restrictions on % of wheel turn when in Travel Assist etc, or EU transposed Lane guidance etc regs.
Hi, I would like to know if you had activated "travel assist" through OBD eleven, if so can you tell me the steps to do this please? I have ID4 pro with 3.0 software
You can do that, but you need hardware as well. Touch sensitive steering wheel.
my steering is touch sensitive. with obd Eleven pro on which item should I go to activate both automatic dipped headlights and travel assist?
Lane assist has always been soft as long as the car has had Travel assist. Lane assist on cars without travel assistant has always been ping pong.
Congrats on 21k subs have you beat your old other channel now in subs?
Still 130 to go. But thanks
I love travel assist but for me the worst part is that for some reason it "always" gets too close to Lorries "elsewhere called Semi or trucks" on the Motorway and I can't see this change without the side sensors.
I find it frustrating that VW knew of this swarm feature and didn't even equip 2021 models with the side sensors, mine was built in July and delivered Mid October 2021.
My 2021 travel assist will soon be obsolete, that's a bit of a joke!!!!!
(Sorry to spam here again but you are the font of all knowledge - ) but .. did VW give a reason/idea why we can't have 3.0 at the same time as 2,4 (and even installed by the dealers while we are at it) ? I mean I'm just wondering what the delay is all about! It clearly exists - you used it!
2.4 cannot be OTA. 3.0 can only be installed after 2.4
And I guess it is easier to get 3.0 via OTA, then to stay at the workshop a day longer.
@@BatteryLife Let's just hope - for customers and VW alike - the 3.0 arrives more efficiently and reliably than 2.1 otherwise it'll be the same 9-month saga all over again! I still think it's WILD they didn't design them to come via , with an option, one's own Wifi connection (which you can set up in the car, but is utterly useless right now)
But what If there is roadconstruction and they force cars to one lane (opposite side) Will Swarm data know the difference? Or Will it use that side it used to be on when learning. Even the american brand do not let everyone ”teach” the car where to drive.
Yes, it will, because of speed and the sensors recognize that the sorrounding is different.
Wonder how travel assist might work on minor Irish roads that have no markings whatsoever, just the grass edges?
That is exactly what it is for
I need travel swarm data on my Model 3, autopilot is a disaster on roads without middle line
But they also improve it with every Update!
4K videos please
No, not worth the investment. More flexible with 1080p.
Thanks!
Nice , nice. Percentage of battery on the dash? 😂
Only took 1,5 years ;)
Im not sure swarmdata Will be usefull in places where few id cars are (i have only seen a few private own id cars where i live)
But i appaude vw for doing the updates. Should have been released a long ago thou.
Non id cars also record data. But it will take some time of course
Kinda Pointless when they cant delivered cars with Lane assist :( they got no parts.
that's way ahead of tesla
Sure mate. "Way ahead". Is Volkswagen already at the point where they can deliver working cars with OTA? Or do they still direct people to dealers for simple software updates?
@@Jeroenneman you don't have to go to the dealer for a software update, these updates are pushed to the car OTA
Wait til she finish speaking! God thats so rude, the interruptions! Makes it impossible to follow
Meanwhile in United States....