Video took me a little longer than I expected but I hope you enjoy it! Gwyndolin is such an interesting character and I love their design so much. Next video will either be on the painted world or a movie. Have a great day! Link to Hawkshaw's video: th-cam.com/video/DCO-fcjYyD8/w-d-xo.html
I adore Gwyndolin's dialogue after you yeet the sun mommy. It was so immersive with the change in lighting/environment and that gripping voice acting. It was amazing on my first play through
Instead of picking one why not both, their both very appealing in their own ways, he’s the moon and she’s the sun, it’s not wrong to like them if you know what I mean😏✨✨
He really is fond of talking about Gwyndolin, now isn't he? If didn't know better, I'd think he had feelings for him. Oh my, pretend you didn't hear that, hahaha 😅
Gwyndolin and Gwynvere have always been some of my favs, and I adore how you talked abiut Gwyndolin in this vid- the grief of his fathers tomb, and thenfound family aspects are so good
Really enjoying this series after i found it through the izalith video. I'd played through sotfs a thousand times but never managed to get through DS1 until last year, and finally beat it a few months ago. Since tnen I can't help but consume all the good content. My interpretation of Gwyndolin is as someone who, after being nothing but shunned and looked on with disgust by his father (so often described as weak and frail, literally born with snakes) I have no doubt that his father was disappointed in him from day one. That kind of treatment didnt embitter him toward his father, but instead do all he can to be a good child, earn his father's approval by any means necessary. He isn't just a follower of that same path, hes a total fanatic. His cult dedicate themselves, he calls you a heretic, he's created an entire world to trick you, and I think that obsession stems from a desire to both do what he thinks his father would approve of, and perhaps bask in this false sun. Do we ever find out what happened to the real Gwynyvere?
Also, one thing that stands out: Gwyndolyn is not a giant. In Dark Souls. WHERE ALMOST EVERY BOSS IS THE SIZE OF A BUILDING, EVEN THE DOG. Gwyn also is human sized, but that speaks volumes about his diminishment and hollowing.
Gwyndolin is my boi. Im not as much a fan of the great chest being that I like pretty boys. I always join darkmoon whenever I do a DS run. When I played DS3 I died to Aldrich the first time because I was too busy WTFing to fight. Sulyvahn and Aldrichs storyline is prolly the most disturbing thing in any game.
I definitely plan on doing coverage on Dark Souls 3 but Dark Souls 2 is a pretty intimidating game for me to think about. It has a lot of interesting things going on but it can be pretty exhausting to play through on scholar of the first sin. I'm more open to the idea of covering Dark Souls 2 now because I might have a method of playing the original version of it which might be pretty interesting to talk about.
If you ever do have the extra money laying around and a ps3 or Xbox 360 you can buy a capture card and soul to scholar on the first sale on there which is just the normal version of the game with the DLC’s. Probably the best version of the game. It’s a dumb idea but if you ever do have extra money, it’s probably the best way to play the game with the DLC’s.
@@jackismemeish AFAIK the maps in the console versions of SOTFS are the same as the base game, so it might not be the best idea in terms of covering what most people who get the game will play.
"it's the only area in the game with a cut scene on entrance" this is so incorrect lol. fire link shrine at the start and return to undead asylum, painted worlds and so much more.
Well no, he said CONNECTED with a cutscene, technically the undead asylum is the tutorial area and painted world is the DLC. So he is correct, Anor Londo is the only area in the actual map CONNECTED by a cutscene.
Cool theory. Unfortunate that ******* had to *** Gwendolyn in DS3, or we could have had an alternative to either the Age of Fire and Dark. By the end of DS3, the moon is nonexistent, eclipsed by the dark sign, the battle of dark and light. Obviously speculation but cool anyways.
Fairly decent video, but a couple things to note: the rings description does not specify who cast out gwyns son. It is not correct to say that it was gwyn, because it is not explicitly stated. While I agree that it was pretty not cool to raise gwyndolin as a daughter because of moon magic, we dont know why he was hidden away, and it could have just as easily been for his protectio Again, your video was alright, but we shouldnt present things as fact, even when its heavily implied, unless its been confirmed.
I tried to frame this as just my viewpoint. I never want anyone to take what these dark souls videos say as total fact because that takes a lot of the fun out of the game! I feel like with what we are shown of Gwyndolin’s isolation, even if he was hidden for protection, it still is pretty sad. Whether to blame Gwyn or not is up to how you interpret what little we get to see of the history and that’s part of why I love this game’s storytelling so much!
@@LavenderRex7705very fair take, and I'm sorry if I came across negatively. It's precisely as you say: the story is very open to interpretation. My comment was moreso intended for viewers that take what you say as fact, without putting their own thought into things. I think you're video was well made, and you make some very fair points, and astute observations, and I should have been more positive.
I don’t think you sounded negative! You pointed out a lot of important stuff that I brushed past and it’s always good to remind others to come to their own conclusions!
The descriptions lie to you depending on whose narrating them. The Sunlight Blade Miracle? Gywn NEVER banned his son or stripped him of his name or god hood. We know it because that miracle was laid on Gywn's Tomb in Anor Londo by the Son himself according to the description.
Gwyn is the most misunderstood and important character in the entire series. The truth behind Gwyn is too big for people. It's right there in the item descriptions and dialogue and it fucking kills me that every fucking year another channel goes up and spouts the exact same crap. People's basal assumptions about Gywn are wrong. There are big hints what i don't want to spoil in the way of white religon, item descriptions that specifically mention Gywn's actual Clan,
I’m not spewing crap, I’m just talking about a game I love. Calm down. Gwyn is a greedy man who destroyed himself and doomed the world with a parasitic flame. I would like to know more about what you mean by Gwyn. There are many ways to interpret Dark Souls and I would not describe different interpretations as “misunderstandings” or “crap”.
The game has a narrative and a story it isn't a fucking picaso painting there is absolutely misinterpretations and misunderstandings. The game is was made the way it is so they would happen.@@LavenderRex7705
He broke his own soul apart to empower other rulers drained himself of nearly all his power and gave it to his own clan and then threw himself into the First Flame after all the other Gods abandoned the world and all of their worshippers to buy it and his family at least another millennia. Help me here how was he greedy. And here's 1 hint of what I am talking about the flower on Gwyns armor that he is always wearing means "burnt sacrifice." Weird how he wore those his entire life.@@LavenderRex7705
@@LavenderRex7705 I imagine hes refering to the Way of the White items descriptions and such. The Chief of this covenant is Lloyd (Gwyns Uncle), not Gwyn. In DS1 they were the responsable for branding the darksign on humans and dead bodies (shown in the intro cinematic) and over Solaire stating that he seeked to be undead by his will, to fullfil his own wish to seek his sun. I have no issues with your interpertpretations besides the misunderstanding of the Nameless King fate, Gwyn wasnt responsible for exile his own son (he went hollow after turning the first lord of Cinder long before this timeline) but Lloyd most probably. Here my logic/interpretations. In the DLC, in the royal garden you cannot see undead burg yet, only Anor Londo great walls, while in the present undeadburg, we can find the remnant of the Nameless King statue. so most likely he was a king of Anor Londo and had his own covenant for some period of the time when Oolacile existed yet. Lloyd looking for ursupating the Throne, made a claim that NK was plotting against their own kind because of his peaceful ways of dealing with old enemies like dragons (Black Dragon wasnt being persecuted), so Lloyd won the Throne by his Coup and ordered to kill NK. In the escape or before this events, Nk managed to pay respects to his father by giving his Miracle and his own ring on the tombstone. and then all Statues and history of him was banished from existence. I could feed my interpretation with ds3 items, but i dont personally like them, since was a lot of unecessary fan service.
Video took me a little longer than I expected but I hope you enjoy it! Gwyndolin is such an interesting character and I love their design so much. Next video will either be on the painted world or a movie. Have a great day!
Link to Hawkshaw's video: th-cam.com/video/DCO-fcjYyD8/w-d-xo.html
I adore Gwyndolin's dialogue after you yeet the sun mommy. It was so immersive with the change in lighting/environment and that gripping voice acting. It was amazing on my first play through
He’s one of the best performances in the franchise. He also played Prince Lothric and is incredible there too.
Instead of picking one why not both, their both very appealing in their own ways, he’s the moon and she’s the sun, it’s not wrong to like them if you know what I mean😏✨✨
He rly do be cute though
Amen!
the femboy
ive really been enjoying this series so far, love your commentary. gwyndolin does have great fashion sense.
One of my favorite sets of armor in the game
say Gwyndolin is cute with your whole chest, like Solaire would want
He really is fond of talking about Gwyndolin, now isn't he? If didn't know better, I'd think he had feelings for him.
Oh my, pretend you didn't hear that, hahaha 😅
GWYN!!! YOUR LASTBORN SON IS SEXY AF!!! AS IN, AS FORETOLD!!!
1:46 I didn't know the chandelier could be destroyed by someting falling on it, only by hitting the chains, well learning something new everyday.
Gwyndolin has good style, but that mask must be HEAVY
A heavy price for immaculate drip.
It's weight is little compared to the burden of running Lordran alone and keeping the illusions up.
Gwyndolin and Gwynvere have always been some of my favs, and I adore how you talked abiut Gwyndolin in this vid- the grief of his fathers tomb, and thenfound family aspects are so good
5:05 awesome transition
Really enjoying this series after i found it through the izalith video. I'd played through sotfs a thousand times but never managed to get through DS1 until last year, and finally beat it a few months ago. Since tnen I can't help but consume all the good content.
My interpretation of Gwyndolin is as someone who, after being nothing but shunned and looked on with disgust by his father (so often described as weak and frail, literally born with snakes) I have no doubt that his father was disappointed in him from day one.
That kind of treatment didnt embitter him toward his father, but instead do all he can to be a good child, earn his father's approval by any means necessary. He isn't just a follower of that same path, hes a total fanatic. His cult dedicate themselves, he calls you a heretic, he's created an entire world to trick you, and I think that obsession stems from a desire to both do what he thinks his father would approve of, and perhaps bask in this false sun.
Do we ever find out what happened to the real Gwynyvere?
It's stated in the item description of the ring of the sun princess that she ends up marrying Flame God Flann
ive been binging this series very underrated channel wonderful editing and pacing and narration KEEP IT UP!!!!
That last statement tho😏 everybody thinks that he is definitely cute brother🥴✨
Great video man really
Thank you! :)
Also, one thing that stands out: Gwyndolyn is not a giant.
In Dark Souls.
WHERE ALMOST EVERY BOSS IS THE SIZE OF A BUILDING, EVEN THE DOG.
Gwyn also is human sized, but that speaks volumes about his diminishment and hollowing.
Gwyndolin is endeed cute
Gwyndolin is my boi. Im not as much a fan of the great chest being that I like pretty boys. I always join darkmoon whenever I do a DS run.
When I played DS3 I died to Aldrich the first time because I was too busy WTFing to fight. Sulyvahn and Aldrichs storyline is prolly the most disturbing thing in any game.
i really enjoyed ur video! Gwyndolin is vv cute :3
You get it.
Man I love these videos. Will you ever make this series for dark souls two and dark souls three
I definitely plan on doing coverage on Dark Souls 3 but Dark Souls 2 is a pretty intimidating game for me to think about. It has a lot of interesting things going on but it can be pretty exhausting to play through on scholar of the first sin. I'm more open to the idea of covering Dark Souls 2 now because I might have a method of playing the original version of it which might be pretty interesting to talk about.
If you ever do have the extra money laying around and a ps3 or Xbox 360 you can buy a capture card and soul to scholar on the first sale on there which is just the normal version of the game with the DLC’s. Probably the best version of the game. It’s a dumb idea but if you ever do have extra money, it’s probably the best way to play the game with the DLC’s.
@@jackismemeish AFAIK the maps in the console versions of SOTFS are the same as the base game, so it might not be the best idea in terms of covering what most people who get the game will play.
So if Gwynevere is an illusion made by Gwyndolin since his sister isn’t there, does that make Gwynevere a trap?
"it's the only area in the game with a cut scene on entrance" this is so incorrect lol. fire link shrine at the start and return to undead asylum, painted worlds and so much more.
Well no, he said CONNECTED with a cutscene, technically the undead asylum is the tutorial area and painted world is the DLC.
So he is correct, Anor Londo is the only area in the actual map CONNECTED by a cutscene.
fun fact
the summon sigil in 2:50 shows a guy with the name "came here to fuck you" in portuguese lmao
Ahh overseas DS community my beloved
Cool theory. Unfortunate that ******* had to *** Gwendolyn in DS3, or we could have had an alternative to either the Age of Fire and Dark. By the end of DS3, the moon is nonexistent, eclipsed by the dark sign, the battle of dark and light. Obviously speculation but cool anyways.
the femboy god of anor londo
Gwyndolin's true source of power.
Fairly decent video, but a couple things to note: the rings description does not specify who cast out gwyns son. It is not correct to say that it was gwyn, because it is not explicitly stated.
While I agree that it was pretty not cool to raise gwyndolin as a daughter because of moon magic, we dont know why he was hidden away, and it could have just as easily been for his protectio
Again, your video was alright, but we shouldnt present things as fact, even when its heavily implied, unless its been confirmed.
I tried to frame this as just my viewpoint. I never want anyone to take what these dark souls videos say as total fact because that takes a lot of the fun out of the game! I feel like with what we are shown of Gwyndolin’s isolation, even if he was hidden for protection, it still is pretty sad. Whether to blame Gwyn or not is up to how you interpret what little we get to see of the history and that’s part of why I love this game’s storytelling so much!
@@LavenderRex7705very fair take, and I'm sorry if I came across negatively. It's precisely as you say: the story is very open to interpretation.
My comment was moreso intended for viewers that take what you say as fact, without putting their own thought into things.
I think you're video was well made, and you make some very fair points, and astute observations, and I should have been more positive.
I don’t think you sounded negative! You pointed out a lot of important stuff that I brushed past and it’s always good to remind others to come to their own conclusions!
I thought it was pretty obvious that Gwyn hid him away because he’s just too gosh darn cute and it was making everybody in Anor Londo act a damn fool.
FREAK!!! 5:38
Brother, you must embark on a playthrough of bloodborne, and give me a nine part forty hour series on the game. Please.
Gwyndolin is my waifu
one of my favourite femboys
Dear god the remaster lightning in anor Londo looks awful.
The descriptions lie to you depending on whose narrating them. The Sunlight Blade Miracle? Gywn NEVER banned his son or stripped him of his name or god hood. We know it because that miracle was laid on Gywn's Tomb in Anor Londo by the Son himself according to the description.
Gwyn is the most misunderstood and important character in the entire series. The truth behind Gwyn is too big for people. It's right there in the item descriptions and dialogue and it fucking kills me that every fucking year another channel goes up and spouts the exact same crap. People's basal assumptions about Gywn are wrong. There are big hints what i don't want to spoil in the way of white religon, item descriptions that specifically mention Gywn's actual Clan,
I’m not spewing crap, I’m just talking about a game I love. Calm down. Gwyn is a greedy man who destroyed himself and doomed the world with a parasitic flame. I would like to know more about what you mean by Gwyn. There are many ways to interpret Dark Souls and I would not describe different interpretations as “misunderstandings” or “crap”.
How did he destroy the world with a flame that existed before he did by killing himself and how is he greedy?@@LavenderRex7705
The game has a narrative and a story it isn't a fucking picaso painting there is absolutely misinterpretations and misunderstandings. The game is was made the way it is so they would happen.@@LavenderRex7705
He broke his own soul apart to empower other rulers drained himself of nearly all his power and gave it to his own clan and then threw himself into the First Flame after all the other Gods abandoned the world and all of their worshippers to buy it and his family at least another millennia. Help me here how was he greedy. And here's 1 hint of what I am talking about the flower on Gwyns armor that he is always wearing means "burnt sacrifice." Weird how he wore those his entire life.@@LavenderRex7705
@@LavenderRex7705 I imagine hes refering to the Way of the White items descriptions and such. The Chief of this covenant is Lloyd (Gwyns Uncle), not Gwyn. In DS1 they were the responsable for branding the darksign on humans and dead bodies (shown in the intro cinematic) and over Solaire stating that he seeked to be undead by his will, to fullfil his own wish to seek his sun. I have no issues with your interpertpretations besides the misunderstanding of the Nameless King fate, Gwyn wasnt responsible for exile his own son (he went hollow after turning the first lord of Cinder long before this timeline) but Lloyd most probably. Here my logic/interpretations. In the DLC, in the royal garden you cannot see undead burg yet, only Anor Londo great walls, while in the present undeadburg, we can find the remnant of the Nameless King statue. so most likely he was a king of Anor Londo and had his own covenant for some period of the time when Oolacile existed yet. Lloyd looking for ursupating the Throne, made a claim that NK was plotting against their own kind because of his peaceful ways of dealing with old enemies like dragons (Black Dragon wasnt being persecuted), so Lloyd won the Throne by his Coup and ordered to kill NK. In the escape or before this events, Nk managed to pay respects to his father by giving his Miracle and his own ring on the tombstone. and then all Statues and history of him was banished from existence. I could feed my interpretation with ds3 items, but i dont personally like them, since was a lot of unecessary fan service.