I resent 4kids. The goofy censorship really gave One Piece a bad reputation. I remember reading One Piece at school and another kid saw Gear 4 Luffy and said “WOW! When did the series decide to grow a pair of balls!?”
yep they made the series more goofy than it otherwise could have been, the impression it left on me. A rich guy in a suit has over powered kicks aka Sanji, the stretchy guy is also quite over powered and very goofy aka Luffy, and seems to have a dream. Arlong pirates are very well written for a kids show, Buggy seems like a lot of fun. the show seemed very goofy with key moments thats what 4kids left. how a show is presented can greatly effect how it is perceived. a show can either be bad or good all depending on what is presented. when I actually got back into OP after 4kids made it goofy, I got back into it in 2014, and realized wow it is a very good show that was never given proper moment to shine as bright as it could have.
I actually thought that it was far too goofy and outright stupid when I saw it on 4kids. I'd stopped watching after 3 episodes, and went to Yugio. Later Death Note, Bleach, and Naruto. I'm only getting into it now due to some friends raving about the politics and Haki in One Piece. I have been binge watching it subbed since the Corona virus. From water 7 arch the series blew up to me.
one piece already had it more difficult to become more popular in the west due to the art style, which makes people easily dismiss it as "some kiddy anime" compared to naruto and bleach which looked all "cool and edgy" the 4kids dub is just the nail in the coffin that reinforced people to really dismiss it as an anime for kids for with all the horrible censorship
My best friend shunned One Piece for 15 years thanks to 4kids. He's reading the manga for the first time right now, deep in Water 7, and he curses 4kids with practically every chapter we read now for keeping him away from this godly story.
Probably not. He should be thanking it, he now has a good back catalog to read, and can skip over all the breaks and shit cliffhanger on those breaks to have a better flowing story.
Ace is a playing card and you can't have gambling on a kids show!!!! edit: its a fucking joke, plus how far fetched is it really to think that was 4kids logic behind that decision
Jaison Castelino His underlings would have the initial translations of their names, plus some made up one for Diamante. Trevor, Peeka and Steven Tyler.
If One Piece was released properly in 2000 it would be more popular than Naruto in America. As a fellow Aussie Im not sure how popular One Piece is in Aus
A lot of fans anime don't takes OP serious because of 4kids impression, a lot of people won't give it a chance because it didn't get a good impression like Naruto or Bleach. Back then you knew the show had potential but 4kids made it goofy beyond belief. the impression it leaves is a very goofy show with a rich guy in a suit with over powered kicks aka Sanji. When you put it into proper context. 4kids = super goofy, hiding great potential moments. OP in context = a great series that was never given proper spot in the sun to shine.
@Ngm Mngw Once you move past all the filler episodes, the repeated flashbacks, cringe love stories, and never-ending monologues, then you can finally enjoy the tv show.
I have a special kind of hatred for 4kids... One Piece is my Favorite Anime/Manga, and because of 4Kids, I almost never even watched/read it... I watched part of one episode on CN, and it was so awful that I stopped watching and had a dislike for the show. Thankfully a good friend of mine brought over some subbed episodes on a burned DVD and we marathoned the first 10 in one night, and thus my fandom was born.
same here i only started loving one piece when i watched the sub. Because of 4 kids over censorship and horrible portrayal of the story and characters i always thought the show was trash but then i saw the sub and was like...this show is incredible fuck you 4 kids!
my first impression of it was when I was kid 6-8 years old and I saw the crew go to sky island in Philippines. when I came to US, I started in ep 1 sub and really fell in love with the show after arlong ark.
The reason their dubs had that censorship is because their dubs aired on network television during Saturday mornings, and the shows they aired on channels like Fox and the WB had to go through a filter called Broadcast Standards and Practices. Which dictates what is and isn't allowed to be displayed on TV. When 4Kids has episodes delivered to them, before working on any of them, they have to present the Japanese version of the episode to BSAP for review, and they would get back notes telling them what elements in the episode has to cut out or censored.
Same here dude....I remember watching one piece movie 1 on a totally different channel and in hindi dub.... It was ribtickling good and made me a fan and though it was the one and only Hindi dub ever, the voice artists really caught the essence of the show and I had no problem switching to English sub
And... now Oda outlasted them all and has sold more manga than any other title. Kinda invalidates most “4kids ruined One Piece!” arguments. Longest running shonen, most manga sold by so so much, and still growing exponentially in popularity. The trend that really proves this for the western audience is look at how many English-speaking TH-cam channels cover +75% only One Piece. And many with millions of views for a chapter discussion.
This makes me sad. As someone born and raised in Spain, I clearly dodged a bullet here regarding the infamous 4Kids ordeal. Our 3XL dub was short of brilliant, even though my primary form of One Piece consumption has always been the manga.
Ah, you're Spanish! I actually made mention of how good your dub was in this video. That and the German dub have always been fairly highly praised in my experience. Can I ask if there was ever any stigma surrounding One Piece in the Spanish anime community?
I'm in Texas and was born in Florida. So I can definitely agree that 4kids muffed up all anime. Not just One Piece. I honestly haven't seen an episode of one piece or read a chspterbbut I watch all of your grandline videos and I do love the manga and also the anime.
@@GrandLineReview I actually have never watched the Spanish dub, I am from Catalonia and we had our own dub. The Catalan TV network has always pushed for great anime, more so than the rest of the country I dare say, and has treated it with absolute care. From my experience, One Piece has always been pretty popular - both anime and manga -, no stigma whatsoever surrounding it.
I’m positive that if it weren’t for the damn 4kids dub One Piece would get the recognition and respect that it deserves in the west. So pissed really because One Piece could be even bigger then it already is.
If Funimation had the rights to the series first it easily would've been just as popular as Dragon Ball Z in the west, they even had interest in getting it but 4kids beat them to it.
@@jeremyknight9980 nope. I doubt it. The appeal of dragon ball is the fights, one piece is pretty lack luster in that department compared to dragon ball, Naruto, bleach, and all the shows that blew up in the states. One piece is a slow burn series that will just never appeal the the larger US audience due to how much time you need to commit to it.
@@gilbertoflores7397 While this is partially true, I think you're only thinking about the 1-12 age demographic. One Piece never got a chance to shine in America so we'll never know, but imo it doesn't take very long to get into One Piece, nor does it take a long time to start getting payoffs for the million plot points Oda introduces. I believe the appeal of One Piece lies in the fact that Oda is amazing at writing both short-term stories and long-term plots at the same time. Nobody would read One Piece if we had to wait 500 chapters each time to get a resolution. I'd also argue that your underselling One Piece fights. I'd agree that One Piece fights are probably the weakest part of One Piece, but in comparison to the other series you mentioned the fights are almost just as good, if not better in some cases. I haven't seen Bleach, but I do think Naruto fights are slightly better. I do not think DBZ fights are even remotely as interesting or even epic as One Piece fights. The reason DBZ is popular is because young people love power scaling, and that's basically DBZ in a nutshell. But in general I wouldn't generalize the elements of popularity so hard, nor the characteristics of an audience. If you think that American youths are more prone to enjoying fights than Japanese, Spanish, or German youths, than maybe you're right. But the series pretty much blew up everywhere except for English speaking countries, yet still remains the best-selling manga of all time, so to me your logic kinda falls through. Just my take, though.
@@jeremyknight9980 Funimation wanted One Piece, yes. But 4Kids didn't beat them to it, Toei just simply gave it to them over Funimation because of the massive success 4Kids was getting from Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh as well as bringing in many audiences into the franchises, and they wanted One Piece to gain that same popularity in the West. And 4Kids only got One Piece through a package deal that advertised it as one of the most popular kids franchises in Japan, which got 4Kids into agreeing with the package deal until they started getting episodes that showed it was too violent and inappropriate for them, and they couldn't screen test One Piece before purchasing the licensing since they didn't have proper checks and balances established at the time that would allow them to screen anime before purchasing the licensing.
4 kids introduced me to one piece but I did not fall in love with it... I feel in love in college when I went back and watch it from episode 1 in subtitles up to 500. Now I'm weekly.
Bruuuuh same, I saw the 4kids and wasn’t interested then in college binged all the way to Sabaody (dub) then wanted more so switched to sub, im also weekly (well until the covid hiatus) but I love this show no thanks to 4kids
Wow! I did this same thing! I TH-camd the shit out of the anime during college and binge read the manga. I wanted to give it a chance since the bare bones of the arcs were interesting enough for me to keep watching the horrible travesty that was 4kids. Best decision ever.
Same, I started watching One Piece when it was up to Amazon Lily around 10 years ago when I was 18. I vaguely remember the 4kids version only because Yugi-Oh was the only other anime that 4kids was allowed to touch. Why it wasn't handled by Viz and toonami (which introduced me to Dragonball, naruto and yu yu hakusho) from the beginning, I'll never understand.
@@jakebowen6856 Only the edited for TV version of the One Piece Funi dub has ever called Zoro Zolo and that doesn't count because shortly after the Cartoon Network finally allowed anime to be shown uncut.
AFAIK, he was made aware thanks to masters videotapes with One Piece episodes made by 4Kids sent to TOEI HQ in Japan by mexican TV producer Televisa as per TOEI request (because that HQ mistakenly thought it was Televisa who was doing the butchering and mowing destruction of One Piece in Latin America), since the TOEI subsidiary located in Los Angeles, managed by Kenji Ebato, never informed to the HQ about the content of the deal between that subsidiary and 4Kids. Oda asked the videotapes to be seen by him alongside with TOEI directives. When Oda saw that wasn't a minor latin american issue (that was serious enough nonetheless, by the way), but the biggest/critical one also involving USA (and UK, Australia and every english speaking country in the world, if what's said in this video is true, which made the problem practically global), he threatened to break the agreement between him and TOEI regarding One Piece if no solution was provided immediately and if a new contract wasn't made where Oda established that nothing about One Piece could be marketed or produced by TOEI without his express, written consent.
@@Demonaire Oda doesn’t fuck around. It’s telling that hardass companies like Jump and Toei follow whatever instructions Oda gives for all these years.
@@Eyeshield11721 That also proves something we knew already: Anime is just a big adv media for the Manga nowadays. Oda can impose such conditions to TOEI because other TV programmers would be very happy to produce One Piece, even being minor ones compared with TOEI.
The double edged sword is that now you finally have kids who are young enough that they don’t remember the 4kidz dub, so they have an open mind... but now One Piece is so long that it’s still a challenge to get people to start it.
@@isauldron4337 That's what I did, but the manga is still nearly 1000 chapters. It's a daunting task regardless. Plus, manga honestly doesn't have the ease of access that streaming anime does imo
I‘m so happy I grew up with the german One Piece dub, the only thing that has been censored there were „too bloody“ scenes but overall it was a faithful adaptation. Also the voice acting is/was great and the openings they dubbed are so good that to this day I sometimes listen to them. (Especially the first Opening, it somewhat gained a cult status here :D).
The censorship was okay until they've decided to censor the dub itself o_O The burning of the flag at Enies Lobby ... "Don't they know how sad we get if you destroy our beautiful flag?" "Haha! They'll get a slap on their wrists from the world government!" Or how Nico Olvias Crew just was really really tired instead of DEAD 🤣 ... Hell o_O ... It became hell. Thank the tv gods RTL II stopped dubbing One Piece and the following tv stations kept the voice cast 😁 I still don't love how they stopped dubbing the openings because "licensing".
France honestly had the best start for the series. Their dub which was supervised by Toei has absolutely 0 censorship with the songs kept in Japanese. The show even premiered on Virgin 17, a channel aimed at 15-35 year olds which was perfect and made the show extremely popular there. The Middle East also had a perfect airing on MBC Action which also had no censorship and was subtitled.
Y’know am happy that one piece wasn’t my first anime, cuz if it was it would be ruining my life just by looking at the 4kids so I knew one piece in like 2017 and didn’t know there was a 4kids one and yeah one piece is one of my favourite anime’s and thank gosh I didn’t watch the 4kids version first.
Like you, my first exposure to One Piece was through 4Kids, and if there is ONE thing I am grateful for, it's that I was too young and stupid to realize how bad it was. Because if I wasn't, I might have been one of those people who wrote the series off as an awful kids show. But even with how bad it was, it still managed to make me a fan of the series. Then, years later, I caught an episode of the Funimation Dub, which made me realize I'd never seen the show proper, and one binge session later, I had fallen in love with the series all over again.
Tbh 4kids was my introduction to One Piece and even though it hasn’t aged well, I was still hooked on it from day 1 and strange to say if it wasn’t for 4kids dub I wouldn’t have gotten into One Piece as early as I did so. One piece is my number 1 anime and I’m looking forward to knowing how it ends
You know apart of me lowkey really wanted the 4kids version to go on just to see how they would do Franky and especially Brook since they cut out Laboon. You know Brook's main goal in the story I really wanted to see how they'll butcher that.
In the mid 00's I was into Naruto, Bleach, and Jojo, however I was reluctant to start One Piece since it looked kinda goofy. However I gave it a chance because it had quite a bit of hype on online communities. I was shocked at how amazing One Piece was, and still is to this very day.
Agreed about pacing. Nowadays we don't have filler arcs. One Piece fillers always felt like part of the story. We get pages of the manga stretched into full episodes, not to mention that each episode now has a ridiculously long 5-7 min recap..... They should have added a filler arc after Dressrosa, Zou and Whole Cake...
As a kid i saw 1 episode of One Piece with my 4kids cartoons and I wrote the show off for YEARS!! Then a coworker told me that if i read the manga i would love it and so i gave it a shot. 10 years later and i still anxiously await new manga chapters, i even watch the anime from time to time as the voice actors are amazing and you can never have too much One Piece!
Hey just to expand on the "Zolo" part, I'm french and started reading One Piece in ... 2007 iirc, at the time some character's names had been sort of translated, like usopp who was called "Pipo" (sort of slang word for lying in french), and Sanji was "Sandi". But around volume 60 or something, the Editor of the manga in France (Glenat) decided to change the translation, calling Usopp Usopp and Sanji Sanji (among many many other mistranlations) and re-edited EVERY volume up until that point. I don't see why they couldn't do that in the US (speaking for the books and not the dubs ofc (much more work to re-dub everything), it's better for everyone, the new readers, the readers that caught up with the manga and know the real names, and also for the editor who can expect to sell everything again to some fans.
The current english translator for One Piece has mentioned that Viz (the company that translates the series into English) decided to keep Zolo because it was cheaper just to keep the name, rather than go back and reprint every volume. I don’t know how popular One Piece is in France, but it’s definitely not popular enough in America for it to be worth reprinting everything for a name change.
@@Frosty31415 Yeah I guess I didn't realise that it was so "unpopular" still in the US. One Piece has actually been at the top of the manga sales for some years now
@@Frosty31415 That's stupid considering they originally did translate Zoro's name properly until the 4kids dub came out in the States and they reprinted every volume they had released at that point with the Zolo change.
It took me nearly a whole decade to get back into One Piece after 4kids, I didn’t start the manga till my high school days around 2009-2010. Another decade later it’s one of my favorite manga and one of the manga I reviewed the most on my channel whenever life allowed it.
Well, I as a German was lucky enough to get a just slightly censored version of one piece. They cut things like Nami stabbing her Tatoo, not entirely, but the scene is not as long as it is in the original. And that I find completely fine, because while children can see blood they don't necessarily need to see Nami stabbing her tatoo for 20 seconds to understand that Nami is in desperate need of help from Luffy.
I think 4Kids would have just cut out Brook's backstory entirely. Make him just a non-dead dude who ate the Skeleton-Skeleton Fruit, got lost in the Florian Triangle, and 5 years ago had his shadow stolen by Moria. They would just completely remove any and all references to him being a dead man, the Rumbar Pirates, and Laboon.
12:16 I remember growing up with the german dub of one piece on tv and it being actually quite good, i was obviously not that good at speaking english and would only find my love for the series years later. But oh gosh the intro of the german dub in the first season or so was just phenomenal (to kid me), and to this day pure nostalgia and hype.
This is kind of a soft spot for me, as an Italian viewer. Not only the company that owns the Italian dub is horrendously scummy (they own both OP and Naruto, OP is stuck in Fishaman Island and Naruto never ended, still in the middle of the War Arc), but 4kids reached even over here (after all, most adapters would use english texts as their base, 4kids even worked here if I remember correctly). The story is like the original, it was not changed like the 4kids version and it hit the right demografic for the most part, but they decided to make a few ENORMOUS changes (they were probably obbligated from one of the higher ups): - Luffy... in Italy he is "Monkey D Luffy, known as *RUBBER* "... yep that's his name, Rubber. Every time they read his bounty poster that exact phrase is uttered - How about the infamous Devil Fruits? The fruits that make a faustian pact with its eater, giving them a particular power in exchange for their swimming abilities... they are called "Sea Fruits", which in Italian is the same noun used to talk about Sea food. I can clearly feel the sense of danger. - There are other changes which make the story much more confused that it needs to be, like Sanji's dream being to find the All blue, or as it is called here "Grande Blu" (literally traslated in "Big Blue", but this is not the problem), which is the same name given to the Grand Line, so Sanji literally wants to find the Grand Line... ok When someone more capable took the role to adapt the series it was already too late and these problems needed to stay for continuity's sake. With the films they started taking more liberties, literally fixing the series (seeing as what the movies depict is much further the point the anime adaptation reached here, so they can go on and talk as if they were talking to the dedicated fans who are well aware of the adaptation problems): Luffy is Luffy once more, Devil Fruits came back and they even changed more stuff by translating the Admiral names in their real meaning, making it more clear how they are not their real names and just titles (example: Kizaru in Stampede is called "Scimmia Gialla" , aka "Yellow Monkey") It has gotten better, but no one has any hope for the anime adaptation anymore
Boh alla fine frutti del mare davano l'idea di appartenere a quel mondo, e di esserne parte integrante, o magari sono io che faccio troppi viaggi con la mente, però non mi ha mai tiltato tanto quanto Rubber o altro C'è però da dire che per quanto riguarda le censure sono state ridotte al minimo, eliminando giusto solo scene di troppo nudo (es: bagno ad alabasta) o scene effettivamente un po' pesanti (es spandam che calpesta ripetutamente Robin)
@@lucabertani225 si giusto, infatti ho scritto come non hanno cambiato aspetti della storia in modo particolare come la 4kids. COmunque, la roba dei frutti del mare è abbastanza scandalosa, molto peggio di Luffy e Rubber. Per Rubber alla fine si parla di un nome, sticazzi, magari poteva anche servire per far allineare il labiale; frutti del mare ha diverse implicazioni: 1) dà l'idea che siano collegati al mare, data la preposizioni si suppone ne sia l'origine, di sicuro non dà l'idea di un patto faustiano che impedisce di nuotare e anzi aumenta il collegamento con l'acqua 2) parlando di origine, un nome del genere ha fatto a pensare a me e a tanti altri che questi frutti avessero degli alberi marini o vaccate del genere solo perchè con hanno voluto usare la denominazione "del DIAVOLO", probabilmente per la 4kids con le sue spinte senza riferimenti religiosi ---- For non-italians, Luca pointed out how the italian version did not cerson stuff with only really minor exception (which is true, the story is mainly faithful) and how the "Sea Fruits" (Frutti del mare in italian) change is minor when compared with the "Rubber" change, and here i disagree: the Sea Fruits nomination actually implicates some kind of relation between the 2, and due to the words used it kind of implies that the Sea is actually its origin, making hundreds of children think that these fruits actually came from some sort of underwater tree; most certainly it does not give any idea to the spectator that this object actually makes its eater incapable of swimming
@@nuredingeziqi679 si beh in effetti anch'io avevo sempre pensato a degli alberi, però comunque rispetto alla versione della 4kids la nostra è oro colato ahaha Tra l'altro, per me il problema con one piece era sempre stato l'orario, io non avevo mai visto alcuna puntata se non qualche spezzone di water 7 e Ennies Lobby, e l'ho praticamente scoperto nell'ultimo annetto, neanche This time imma translate myself lol, tho I mostly mentioned some personal stuff I also thought that fruits came from trees, but a reason for me not to get in touch with OP in the first place was the airing time, at which I'd never really be able to see it, recalling only some few things from Water 7 and Ennies Lobby
@@lucabertani225 che fosse meglio della versione 4kids è certo ahahah, almeno avevamo la storia completa, nonostante queste problematiche che tutto sommato sono piccolezze
Well, I'm from Italy and yes, the anime was my first exposure to the series. It was treated extremely well, for the most part, especially when it came to the dub, getting a lot of the heavy hitters from the anime dubbing community from my country - like for example Nami had the same VA as Bulma and Sakura, Chopper had the same VA as Kid Goku and Kid Gohan, and many others. Hell, they even kept the same laughs - I still remember Moria's laugh from the Italian dub, it was so good. The most censorship we had was the same we had on DragonBall, which was; instead of saying "I'm going to kill you" they said "I'm going to destroy you" and the likes; so while the visuals were never changed, some names were. The main thing was: Italy used to be, much more than it is now, a heavy Catholic country, so Devil Fruits became "Sea Fruits" instead. The most remarkable thing though was the name of Luffy; yes, at the beginning of the dub, he was called Rubber. Yeah, the English name Rubber on the Italian show instead of Luffy. Later, I think after Enies Lobby, the dub completely embraced Luffy as its name - well, here they call it Rufy - using the Japanese phonetics - but still. I think with Film Gold and Stampede they actually finally use Luffy. However, I do agree. If it wasn't for that embarrassing dub, I have no doubt OnePiece would be a huge deal in the English spoken countries. But now that the whole series is available on digital - in both Anime and Manga form - I think we're seeing it make a comeback. What will make it or break it though is without a doubt going to be the Netflix show at this point. If that is done well - and since Netflix is naturally targeted at OnePiece's core demographic - that could mean a resurgence in the West. If.
,,my cursed fruit, donut-donut no mi, has the ability to make donuts and change people into them! i can also make donuts so hot they look like magma. Now, I will let ya see it with the help of my friend, Portgas D. Trace, who had fully consented to this!''
I am so glad that I grew up in Germany where we have one of the best one piece dub version. The voices are great and the dubbed openings are amazing. Glad I never had to suffer anything 4kidz
@@madtitanoboa462 I love one One Piece but man the pacing is so awful especially post timeskip. Not to mention the animation until Wano is meh at best.
Ive been converting all of my anime friends into Nakama, and every-single one originally thought it was a kids show. The good word of Oda and the great story of One Piece will take hold. Cause eventually people will come to realize the masterpiece that One Piece is.
I remember watching the 4Kids dub on Cartoon Network also in Australia. I liked the theme song and I liked the pirate theme but even then I felt like something was off with the characters and I switched off. I do recall that the funimation dub did reach Australia later and seeing a few episodes of Skypea arc but at that point I was completely lost how did they get there and what are they doing? And finally thanks to the internet and my adult nostalgia I randomly searched One Piece and watching the original dub and never looked back, moved into the manga as well....and I’m in my 30s now...
I think I’m one of the few people who fell in love with one pice via the 4kids dub. I thought 4kidz Sanji and his lollipop was badass and exclusively ate lolipops like smoking cigarettes ( a fact I realized later), DONT COME FOR ME. I was lucky b/c the first episode I ever watched was from the Drum Island arc where Luffy climbs to Dr. Kureha’s. I was so invested in how he got there and what happened next that, 9 y old me spent hours trying to find the 4kids episodes online. When all I could find was the “obviously” lower quality subbed episodes( how naive I was). I resigned myself to settling for those until I found the English ones. 16 years later I still haven’t found them and I couldn’t be happier. I honestly think One Piece boosted my reading level b/c I had to get faster at reading subtitles so I didn’t have to pause the show every other second.
Ngl, I was hesitant to start One Piece again in 2013 because of the extremely childish nature of the 4kids dub. My cousin was watching it in Japanese and convinced me to start it. Was the first time I started to seriously watch anime and the first time I watched anime subbed.
@@rajatmahore8925 Doubtful. 4kids was during an era where anime was completely brand new to the west. If 4kids didn't pick it up, it wouldnt have gotten dubbed at least for 5 to 10 more years (when funimation picked it up)
German dub is soo good, every voice just works and there are almost no censorship. Also the first opening is different than in any other language which makes it even greater to me.
I remember watching the 4Kids dub of One Piece (CN in New Zealand)...it was something that came on tv that I decided to give a go because anime. One of the few episodes I watched was the episode where Shanks saved Luffy and sacrifices his arm in the process. I loved that bit fondly, it had heart and gave Luffy a reason to respect Shanks and his Straw Hat so much. The other episodes I remember watching were from the Albastas arc. Overall though, I never got into following the series at that time because the 4Kids dub made it feel like such a kid show and the dubbing itself was weak (relative to Ghost in the Shell SAC, NGE, Dragon Ball Z). And then I got into One Piece in 2008 after experiencing Bleach and Naruto for a few years. I devoured the series with the passion of a thousand burning suns consuming the 343 episodes that were out in 10 days and taking a further 2 days to watch all the movies released and catch up to the latest manga chapter (chapter 488). It was glorious, emotional and is one of the most beloved series I have read/watched/experienced. It was also eye-opening in how bad and tragic the 4Kids dub of One Piece was. It wouldn't be an overstatement to say that the 4Kids dub of One Piece really did ruin One Piece to the western audience. If only there were a devil fruit that had the ability to go back in time to rewrite it...
I was new to anime and I kind of remember liking it a lot as a kid on CN, the barati and Arlong arcs got my hype levels all the way to the stratosphere, but little did I know the truth...
Wouldn’t have made a difference to me. When it comes to anime, UK is in the stone age. They had a pretty cool channel back in the early 2000s called CNX which was later called Toonami, which had a lot of anime. But they quickly pulled the plug on that and never spoke about it again. To this day, there’s no anime channels on tv, and the only way to watch anime is to stream it using sites like Crunchyroll or Funimation, which is a crying shame as it chokes out any new generation from growing up with anime here in the UK.
the UK has POP which is a channel that shows a lot of anime made more specifically for kids, Funimation somehow put Dragon Ball Super in there but it makes sense how.
Greatcoolman2 Ohh! I just checked it out. It’s a pretty cool entry point for anime, like Dragon Ball Super and Pokemon Sun and Moon, but it’s mostly filled with pretty weird CG shows during the day and even late at night, like ALVINNN and the Chipmunks or Transformers Cyberverse. Well gotta take the good with the bad, I suppose. I had to get through pretty weird shit like Cubix or Angela Anaconda just to get to DBZ, lol! It’s night just now and finished airing, so I’ll take a proper look at it and make a good judgement on it once it starts back up again in the morning.
I made a comment to my roommate the other day that it was kinda surprising how much attention One Piece was getting (at least in America) right now with the sub being put on Netflix, a Netflix live action series in the works, the dub coming back and other stuff. And they were like??? Its one of the most popular Manga of all time??? HEY LISTEN! You weren’t there for the 4Kids! Dub alright! It bombed in America! Its new found popularity is new to me
Haven’t watched one of your vids in awhile but man...I get a notification from your channel every morning. You’re killing it, man. Love your vids. Gonna binge what I’ve missed soon.
Thankfully my sister's friend introduced into the subs when I was very young back then... so young I didint even know what anime was. I started watching when the Dressrosa arc was the latest.
I might of never came across One Piece if it wasn’t for 4Kids. But, I do wish that I got to watch the original when I was younger though because I know I would of enjoyed it so much more!
I think there’s a weird anomaly in certain countries where comedy manga and anime are less popular/focused on. One of the reasons I say that is here in the UK where I am we never get comedy focused anime’s released on dvd/blu Ray, even the famous ones (although if it has another genre attached to it like action or harem it’ll be more likely to be released).
@@stefannotchev7209 Yeah and considering this was during that time period Ivankov wouldn't slide either, removing him would literally wreck impel down arc, marineford arc and Sanji's horrific 2 year training period.
@@stefannotchev7209 Also I think Domino would survive 4kids censorship a bit....Sadi on the otherhand... she would get exterminated due to her sadistic appearance and her personality doesn't help much either.
The effect of the 4Kids dub truly is mindblowing. One of my first anime experiences was Naruto and I have next to no recollection of One Piece. I thought it was a kiddy show and can only seem to remember a phrase from 4kids opening "ya-yo! ya-yo!" I can't help but wonder if One Piece was one of my first anime experiences. Suffice it to say, I'd be happier. Naruto would go on to let me down in countless ways none of which One Piece has even scratched.
It's funny you know, because here in Europe, or rather in Austria, there were several versions of One Piece running, all of them during the day, so when I found out about the censorship ( especially when I saw Zorro drinking Water & Juice ) I switched to the uncensored one and sticked with it and din't give the other version much of thought
Fun fact: a similar thing happened with One Piece in Italy. I used to hate one piece as a kid, and loved naruto much much more,, i would turn off the TV when one piece was airing and barely bothered with it, and yet around 22 yo i decided to sit the fuck down and watch the subbed one piece from the beginning and Oh My God it blew me away. One Piece is much MUCH more mature than what people give it credit for, and even tho i dont wanna shit on the Shonens of my adolescence (Naruto and KHR mostly) watching One Piece from the start was incredible and even now i suggest to fearful 30 yo friends to give one piece a shot. It's not nearly as edgy, flashy or cool for a teenager as Naruto or hell even DBZ, but has many more resonant themes, amazing characters, an incredibly detailed world and concrete and relatable stories. A coup d'Etat achieved by making the people hate the monarchy by subtile meanings, a travel to a completely different civilization that worships a powerful figure like a God, a government that demolishes an island and chases a little kid to be sure no one discovers how they got to power, a deep root of racism, discrimination and slavery that leads to the rebellion of a suppressed minority, how are those themes for kids exactly?!?
They are for kids, if you not expose kid to this themes in a manner while they are growing and learning, they will be as racist and inhumane as the celestials dragons
i just finished it, actually. all censorship aside, i actually liked their voice acting and their voices are definitely worth imitating. if i could do all of them i would but i can't, especially luffy's. but nevertheless i still liked the way the voices of the strawhats and the villans were portrayed. my favorite villan from this dub would have to be crocodile, but as for the strawhats, that's a pretty tough decision. you've got sanji and his brooklyn accent which in my opinion kinda fits, actually, then there's usopp's voice which is pretty good, next we have luffy's voice. believe me if i were still younger than i actually am i probably would be able to imitate it, but puberty's a thing so what can you do? i mean i might be able to try and replicate his funimation voice but still. next up is nami. all i can say is Kerry Williams did this one justice. after that we've got chopper. the decision to alternate voices between his regular and monster forms was actually a good idea. robin's "texas" accent may have fitted the character for now but i wonder how her voice actress would have delivered her lines later on in the series had 4kids still dubbed one piece(fun fact: Did you know she also did the voice of ash when 4kids had pokemon?) as for zolo, well Marc Driason was a perfect match. i'll have to get used to Chris Sabat now that i'm where funimation started at. it's a shame they didn't bring this cast back when funimation took over. that's all i can say. but the rap song? the rap song was actually pretty fun to sing along to.
Even though 4kids ruined so many anime, I still have a soft spot for them. I grew up with their dubs and I still like certain ones (Kanto league Pokemon). Those chimes that they used in their classic logo bring up lots of great memories when I was just a carefree kid collecting Pokémon and Yu-Gi-Oh! cards. But yea.... their One Piece dub is quite terrible (especially since I had been reading the Monthly Shonen Jump before it premiered on the FoxBox).
It's always funny to me that some people say they couldn't get into One Piece because of the art style, because when I was a kid, I thought all the anime/manga looked the same and got into One Piece BECAUSE of it's cartoony art style. I just remember seeing a promo for it on TV and saw one of my friends reading it in class and thought the art looked cool, and am recently thinking of starting over and re-reading it
Fun Fact: FUNimation actually produced two different versions of the dub! One was aired on Toonami and kept many of the edits 4Kids made for continuity, like Zolo and non-smoking Sanji. (I believe this went up to the end of Thriller Bark before Toonami cancelled it.) The other, exclusive to their DVD releases, was as faithful to the source as it could possibly be, and retains every cigarette, cleavage shot, blood spatter, and (most importantly) the R in Zoro! That's how I experienced One Piece up until the end of Impel Down, and I have never had any regrets.
The 4 kids dub scared me away from this incredible series for 15 plus years man I’m 23 years old and one of the best decisions I ever made was giving it another shot and Diving into all mediums, I can easily say it’s up there with naruto shippuden bleach etc that I actually watched during my teen years (aka most impressionable) love your vids grand line hope you see this!!
Imagine if 4kids had to censor the entirety of Amazon Lily, or every scene with Boa in it. Not to mention Marineford, where people literally fought in a war. Don’t want to spoil but you know what happens if u saw it. They were going to have a hard time with Nami after timeskip too.
@Quilo Sky bro have you ever watched One piece in original Japanese 😂, dont compare them, bcz dub is significantly inferior to the sub, just one word is enough and that is "Sugoii" from luffy, that alone is better than entirety of dub. You either haven't watched it in sub, or are just spitting.
@Quilo Sky bruh, one word, Whitebeard His voice was so utterly bad, Then you have Dragon, Crocodile, Roger, Luffy And so many more. Seriously bro 🤦♂️, if you actually think Dub>Sub than sorry you need some new ears But whatever, its your opinion, i can respect that but sure as hell not agree with that I was gonna continue this, but in the end, You are also a one piece fan, and i can respect that Cheers 🍻
Axel Blaze did you say dbz dub is worse than sub? Have you not heard Chris Sabat's Saiyan pride speech when vegeta was a Majin? That’s one of the best pieces of dub in anime in my opinion. Dbz dub is better than sub because everyone sounds manly whereas everyone in the sub despite being talented, all sound like old ladies
Our own infamous Rock D.Xebec of reality, it left an impact still felt through the one piece fandom and when mentioned it either induces rage or laughs.
They, t-They got rid of Laboon The entire reason why Brook joins Luffy's crew. Part of the reason I fucking love brook so much. And he's edited out Why?
4kids Sanji dub is the OG dub for me and when he didn't sound like a stuffy nosed new jersey man i was very surprised and tbh i stopped watching it until marineford and started reading it lol. Luv u fammo hope you and your loved ones are doing well still in the pandemicnessz
I didn't get into one piece until around punk hazard area. 4Kids really did leave a bad taste to me as a kid. Naruto was my go to in highschool and I graduated in 2009. After a friend of mine just keep digging into me to watch the great awesomeness that is ONE PEICE I've had no regrets I even cosplayed Zorro one summer. Even now I've been trying to get to wife into it. (Just delt with Foxy) Straw Hats for life
I still belive we could have another shot two one piece become more popular and here is why: -Covid 19 -One pice in netflix -One piece in live action -Spanish TH-camrs spekears And i would explain how the spanish youtubers are making a change. Me dicen dai is a very famous spanish talker youtuber that make anime videos. And is makimg first impresions of it. And its calling the attention lf naruto fans because he does a lot of naruto. And in the latinoamerica parts as mexico yous little amount of persons watched the censured version so one piece dosnt have the titile of a funny and not serious our god anime. It yous not that popular. But latetly more spanish youtubers are makin one piece content what is making more people look one piece. With covid 19 a lot of people are in ther homes and with all of these youtubers talking amazing things of one piece and creating polemics are making them give it a tried tho the series now that they have nothing to do and nothing to loss. The live action could bring atention to new fans it is made well and not like death note live action, and being in a livestreem plataform helps more.
I tried to switch to the official release of the one piece manga on the Jump app when RogersBase did... Zolo... I dropped the series till 1 or 2 days ago because I wanted to follow the official release, but it was lower quality than fan translations... I’ll go back to the Official release when they care enough to get character names right.
I resent 4kids. The goofy censorship really gave One Piece a bad reputation. I remember reading One Piece at school and another kid saw Gear 4 Luffy and said “WOW! When did the series decide to grow a pair of balls!?”
@person person Yeah, especially after the fact that all the other balls were censored.
@person person what about Amazon Lily?
yep they made the series more goofy than it otherwise could have been, the impression it left on me. A rich guy in a suit has over powered kicks aka Sanji, the stretchy guy is also quite over powered and very goofy aka Luffy, and seems to have a dream. Arlong pirates are very well written for a kids show, Buggy seems like a lot of fun. the show seemed very goofy with key moments thats what 4kids left. how a show is presented can greatly effect how it is perceived. a show can either be bad or good all depending on what is presented. when I actually got back into OP after 4kids made it goofy, I got back into it in 2014, and realized wow it is a very good show that was never given proper moment to shine as bright as it could have.
I actually thought that it was far too goofy and outright stupid when I saw it on 4kids. I'd stopped watching after 3 episodes, and went to Yugio. Later Death Note, Bleach, and Naruto.
I'm only getting into it now due to some friends raving about the politics and Haki in One Piece. I have been binge watching it subbed since the Corona virus. From water 7 arch the series blew up to me.
There goes the cannon balls
one piece already had it more difficult to become more popular in the west due to the art style, which makes people easily dismiss it as "some kiddy anime" compared to naruto and bleach which looked all "cool and edgy"
the 4kids dub is just the nail in the coffin that reinforced people to really dismiss it as an anime for kids for with all the horrible censorship
It's sad that people don't watch an anime just because of the art style.
bocodamondo good more people reading the manga the better
@@outchidekameuh1645 Why? Anime is a visual medium. If the visuals suck, why waste your time on it?
I thank my friend Stephen for introducing me to one piece
It's way better than Naruto
@@adriannaleong then go read the god damn light novel. Most of the time there's even more details left in
When One Piece eventually ends, Bellemerre will still be trapped in that dungeon
Everyone: Belemere is locked up lets go save her
Strawhats: Nah
Nami: Nah
It goes dark pretty fast, if she was trapped in Arlong Park's dungeon
You see her grave in the 4kids version. It's implied that she died in the dungeon.
Wait belemere is still alive?!?!
Sterling Hill in 4kids arlong didnt kill her he trapper her in a dungeon but in the real one piece she dies
I swear, 4Kids would have had a field day with Franky, World Nobles and post timeskip Nami and Robin XD
he faild already with Morgan XD
What about Marine fort?
Would they removed it from existence.
Also, Ivankov
even pre-timeskip. and with iceberg that Brook and his crew left near twin capes T_T what a sad story.
@@madkoala2130 honestly, it would not be that big of a problem, just change colour of blood and there you go
Yo! His name's ZOLO he's just like a samurai!
AND AN L-A-D-Y NAMI'S NOT SHY
*Vietnam 4 kids flashbacks*
USOPP’S DOIN’ THAT MARKSMAN THING!
AND SANJIS COOKIN, CHOPPER IS DOCTORING
YA-YOOO, YA-YOOO YA-YOOOOOO, UH OOOOHH
My best friend shunned One Piece for 15 years thanks to 4kids. He's reading the manga for the first time right now, deep in Water 7, and he curses 4kids with practically every chapter we read now for keeping him away from this godly story.
Probably not. He should be thanking it, he now has a good back catalog to read, and can skip over all the breaks and shit cliffhanger on those breaks to have a better flowing story.
Brook: I've known that iceburg since it was a tiny icecube!
Bruh it'd be hilarious. Also, that's exactly the same type of humor One Piece have
I have seen this comment before...probably a video related to this but that video was like one year ago
@@aarongallardo3684 yea
The fact that they changed Ace’s name to Portgaz D Trace still confuses me
Ace is a playing card and you can't have gambling on a kids show!!!! edit: its a fucking joke, plus how far fetched is it really to think that was 4kids logic behind that decision
@@sheesh9937 you're not serious, right?
What about the cards of the Doflamingo Pirates? Would Doflamjngos alias be Clown ( not Joker) and would they edit him to be like Buggy? Lol
@@jaisoncastelino351 It would be Puppet Master. How would they deal with Kaido's suicide hobby?
Jaison Castelino His underlings would have the initial translations of their names, plus some made up one for Diamante.
Trevor, Peeka and Steven Tyler.
If One Piece was released properly in 2000 it would be more popular than Naruto in America. As a fellow Aussie Im not sure how popular One Piece is in Aus
Someone needs to make a time machine.
If 4kids didn’t exist it could actually keep up with dragon ball and naruto I guess it’s the King of Japan though
At least One Piece is thriving in Japan :)
A lot of fans anime don't takes OP serious because of 4kids impression, a lot of people won't give it a chance because it didn't get a good impression like Naruto or Bleach. Back then you knew the show had potential but 4kids made it goofy beyond belief. the impression it leaves is a very goofy show with a rich guy in a suit with over powered kicks aka Sanji. When you put it into proper context. 4kids = super goofy, hiding great potential moments. OP in context = a great series that was never given proper spot in the sun to shine.
@Ngm Mngw Once you move past all the filler episodes, the repeated flashbacks, cringe love stories, and never-ending monologues, then you can finally enjoy the tv show.
I have a special kind of hatred for 4kids... One Piece is my Favorite Anime/Manga, and because of 4Kids, I almost never even watched/read it... I watched part of one episode on CN, and it was so awful that I stopped watching and had a dislike for the show. Thankfully a good friend of mine brought over some subbed episodes on a burned DVD and we marathoned the first 10 in one night, and thus my fandom was born.
same here i only started loving one piece when i watched the sub. Because of 4 kids over censorship and horrible portrayal of the story and characters i always thought the show was trash but then i saw the sub and was like...this show is incredible fuck you 4 kids!
my first impression of it was when I was kid 6-8 years old and I saw the crew go to sky island in Philippines. when I came to US, I started in ep 1 sub and really fell in love with the show after arlong ark.
The reason their dubs had that censorship is because their dubs aired on network television during Saturday mornings, and the shows they aired on channels like Fox and the WB had to go through a filter called Broadcast Standards and Practices. Which dictates what is and isn't allowed to be displayed on TV. When 4Kids has episodes delivered to them, before working on any of them, they have to present the Japanese version of the episode to BSAP for review, and they would get back notes telling them what elements in the episode has to cut out or censored.
Same here dude....I remember watching one piece movie 1 on a totally different channel and in hindi dub....
It was ribtickling good and made me a fan and though it was the one and only Hindi dub ever, the voice artists really caught the essence of the show and I had no problem switching to English sub
And... now Oda outlasted them all and has sold more manga than any other title. Kinda invalidates most “4kids ruined One Piece!” arguments. Longest running shonen, most manga sold by so so much, and still growing exponentially in popularity. The trend that really proves this for the western audience is look at how many English-speaking TH-cam channels cover +75% only One Piece. And many with millions of views for a chapter discussion.
This makes me sad. As someone born and raised in Spain, I clearly dodged a bullet here regarding the infamous 4Kids ordeal.
Our 3XL dub was short of brilliant, even though my primary form of One Piece consumption has always been the manga.
Ah, you're Spanish! I actually made mention of how good your dub was in this video. That and the German dub have always been fairly highly praised in my experience. Can I ask if there was ever any stigma surrounding One Piece in the Spanish anime community?
I'm in Texas and was born in Florida. So I can definitely agree that 4kids muffed up all anime. Not just One Piece. I honestly haven't seen an episode of one piece or read a chspterbbut I watch all of your grandline videos and I do love the manga and also the anime.
@@GrandLineReview yes, there is with dragon ball dub which wasn't that good(not as bad as 4kids but still bad)
@@delest_iris also the latin dub, the kamehameha was the dinamic glacial wave
@@GrandLineReview I actually have never watched the Spanish dub, I am from Catalonia and we had our own dub. The Catalan TV network has always pushed for great anime, more so than the rest of the country I dare say, and has treated it with absolute care. From my experience, One Piece has always been pretty popular - both anime and manga -, no stigma whatsoever surrounding it.
From what I noticed the 4kids not only censored but also changed some colours of many characters
Every time I read "Zolo" in the manga, my mind just changes is to Zoro, it's instinctual at this point.
Same here. Not a big deal to me really
Same thing with changing Merry Go to its proper name of Going Merry.
Yeah it bothered me for the first 2 volumes but you get used to changing it
I don’t even notice the L in Zolo anymore. My mind doesn’t change it, it automatically reads it as Zoro
@@mrpizza_5139 Same
and an L-A-D-Y Nami's not shy.
Usopp's doing that marksman thing,
Sanjis Cookin and Choppers Doctoring
Gotta Go, gotta Go, Gotta Go
YA-YO YA-YO
Set sail for One Piece
I’m positive that if it weren’t for the damn 4kids dub One Piece would get the recognition and respect that it deserves in the west. So pissed really because One Piece could be even bigger then it already is.
hopefully it will get it's time to shine even brighter than it could have given how good it is.
If Funimation had the rights to the series first it easily would've been just as popular as Dragon Ball Z in the west, they even had interest in getting it but 4kids beat them to it.
@@jeremyknight9980 nope. I doubt it. The appeal of dragon ball is the fights, one piece is pretty lack luster in that department compared to dragon ball, Naruto, bleach, and all the shows that blew up in the states. One piece is a slow burn series that will just never appeal the the larger US audience due to how much time you need to commit to it.
@@gilbertoflores7397 While this is partially true, I think you're only thinking about the 1-12 age demographic. One Piece never got a chance to shine in America so we'll never know, but imo it doesn't take very long to get into One Piece, nor does it take a long time to start getting payoffs for the million plot points Oda introduces. I believe the appeal of One Piece lies in the fact that Oda is amazing at writing both short-term stories and long-term plots at the same time. Nobody would read One Piece if we had to wait 500 chapters each time to get a resolution.
I'd also argue that your underselling One Piece fights. I'd agree that One Piece fights are probably the weakest part of One Piece, but in comparison to the other series you mentioned the fights are almost just as good, if not better in some cases. I haven't seen Bleach, but I do think Naruto fights are slightly better. I do not think DBZ fights are even remotely as interesting or even epic as One Piece fights. The reason DBZ is popular is because young people love power scaling, and that's basically DBZ in a nutshell.
But in general I wouldn't generalize the elements of popularity so hard, nor the characteristics of an audience. If you think that American youths are more prone to enjoying fights than Japanese, Spanish, or German youths, than maybe you're right. But the series pretty much blew up everywhere except for English speaking countries, yet still remains the best-selling manga of all time, so to me your logic kinda falls through. Just my take, though.
@@jeremyknight9980 Funimation wanted One Piece, yes. But 4Kids didn't beat them to it, Toei just simply gave it to them over Funimation because of the massive success 4Kids was getting from Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh as well as bringing in many audiences into the franchises, and they wanted One Piece to gain that same popularity in the West. And 4Kids only got One Piece through a package deal that advertised it as one of the most popular kids franchises in Japan, which got 4Kids into agreeing with the package deal until they started getting episodes that showed it was too violent and inappropriate for them, and they couldn't screen test One Piece before purchasing the licensing since they didn't have proper checks and balances established at the time that would allow them to screen anime before purchasing the licensing.
Jonathan J. Fourkids the Third is gonna be an NPC in my next D&D campaign.
menno graafmans Make sure it’s spelled in a weird way, like Forkiids or something.
Let us know how that goes and how many people catch on XD
Make him die by a Pirate king
I want to see an alternate timeline where, instead of getting One Piece in a packaged deal, they get Highschool DxD instead.
Lmao
Well they’d be bankrupt long before Highschool DXD would be a thing anyway
NO!!! They already ruined One Piece in this universe. Do NOT taint our goddess Rias with your shitty censors and dubbing, 4Kids!
I'm trying to imagine that..... I got nothing
4 kids introduced me to one piece but I did not fall in love with it... I feel in love in college when I went back and watch it from episode 1 in subtitles up to 500. Now I'm weekly.
Bruuuuh same, I saw the 4kids and wasn’t interested then in college binged all the way to Sabaody (dub) then wanted more so switched to sub, im also weekly (well until the covid hiatus) but I love this show no thanks to 4kids
Wow! I did this same thing! I TH-camd the shit out of the anime during college and binge read the manga. I wanted to give it a chance since the bare bones of the arcs were interesting enough for me to keep watching the horrible travesty that was 4kids. Best decision ever.
Same, I started watching One Piece when it was up to Amazon Lily around 10 years ago when I was 18. I vaguely remember the 4kids version only because Yugi-Oh was the only other anime that 4kids was allowed to touch. Why it wasn't handled by Viz and toonami (which introduced me to Dragonball, naruto and yu yu hakusho) from the beginning, I'll never understand.
2:54: Marines Next Door S.O.H.B.E.P - Spring Operated Hammer Bashes Enemy Pirates
"Zoro being called zolo because of 4 kids is an issue" Allow me to introduce you to the former pirate king! Gold roger
I think you mean **Gord Logel**
That’s the one thing we can’t blame 4kids since the name is copyrighted. The manga also says Zolo
pablo sanchez Even the FUNimation dub says it sometimes. Well. Written out. The Zoro eyecatchers sometimes read Zolo during East blue.
Meanwhile I'm sitting here having grown up with the German dub and Monkey D. Ruffy, Loreno Zorro, and Captain Lysop.
@@jakebowen6856 Only the edited for TV version of the One Piece Funi dub has ever called Zoro Zolo and that doesn't count because shortly after the Cartoon Network finally allowed anime to be shown uncut.
Oda: "Look how they butchered my boy..."
I wonder if hes aware of the fact that 4kids cost OP hundreds of thousands if not millions of potential fans.
One piece could've sold more copies than superman if 4kids hadn't messed up
AFAIK, he was made aware thanks to masters videotapes with One Piece episodes made by 4Kids sent to TOEI HQ in Japan by mexican TV producer Televisa as per TOEI request (because that HQ mistakenly thought it was Televisa who was doing the butchering and mowing destruction of One Piece in Latin America), since the TOEI subsidiary located in Los Angeles, managed by Kenji Ebato, never informed to the HQ about the content of the deal between that subsidiary and 4Kids.
Oda asked the videotapes to be seen by him alongside with TOEI directives. When Oda saw that wasn't a minor latin american issue (that was serious enough nonetheless, by the way), but the biggest/critical one also involving USA (and UK, Australia and every english speaking country in the world, if what's said in this video is true, which made the problem practically global), he threatened to break the agreement between him and TOEI regarding One Piece if no solution was provided immediately and if a new contract wasn't made where Oda established that nothing about One Piece could be marketed or produced by TOEI without his express, written consent.
@@Demonaire Oda doesn’t fuck around. It’s telling that hardass companies like Jump and Toei follow whatever instructions Oda gives for all these years.
@@Eyeshield11721 That also proves something we knew already: Anime is just a big adv media for the Manga nowadays. Oda can impose such conditions to TOEI because other TV programmers would be very happy to produce One Piece, even being minor ones compared with TOEI.
@@domefun3699 not really, most of sales of the manga of one piece come from the manga, it wouldn’t really affect the sales much regardless.
The double edged sword is that now you finally have kids who are young enough that they don’t remember the 4kidz dub, so they have an open mind... but now One Piece is so long that it’s still a challenge to get people to start it.
Well we can always say read the manga!
@@isauldron4337 That's what I did, but the manga is still nearly 1000 chapters. It's a daunting task regardless. Plus, manga honestly doesn't have the ease of access that streaming anime does imo
@@Encyclopedia_Brown97 i know it can be daunting but reading 10 chapters of one piece can take less than 24 minutes approximately
I‘m so happy I grew up with the german One Piece dub, the only thing that has been censored there were „too bloody“ scenes but overall it was a faithful adaptation. Also the voice acting is/was great and the openings they dubbed are so good that to this day I sometimes listen to them. (Especially the first Opening, it somewhat gained a cult status here :D).
"Reichtum, Macht und Ruhm..." Legendär. ❤️
The censorship was okay until they've decided to censor the dub itself o_O The burning of the flag at Enies Lobby ... "Don't they know how sad we get if you destroy our beautiful flag?" "Haha! They'll get a slap on their wrists from the world government!" Or how Nico Olvias Crew just was really really tired instead of DEAD 🤣 ... Hell o_O ... It became hell. Thank the tv gods RTL II stopped dubbing One Piece and the following tv stations kept the voice cast 😁
I still don't love how they stopped dubbing the openings because "licensing".
@@manuwaraa "der Mann der sich dies alles erkämpft hat war Gold Roger" Gänsehaut
The french dub of one piece had 0 censorship. It was even aired on a channel aimed at 15-35 yr olds which was perfect
France honestly had the best start for the series. Their dub which was supervised by Toei has absolutely 0 censorship with the songs kept in Japanese. The show even premiered on Virgin 17, a channel aimed at 15-35 year olds which was perfect and made the show extremely popular there. The Middle East also had a perfect airing on MBC Action which also had no censorship and was subtitled.
Bruh it’s name was Virgin 17?? Lmao
@@randomedgygamer2191 it’s owned the virgin company, richard branson’s one
One piece is so good that they had to nerf it in the west
Gonna start using this point
That's a great point you're making sir😂
underrated comment ever!!😂😂
OP fans should tell this to One Piece haters
The east blue saga? Nah
I wouldn't go that far
"My fortune is yours for the taking but you'll have to find it first, I left everything I own in ONE PIECE."
YO
KAIDO-KAIDO!
one place smdh...they can't even get that right?
I'm glad I live in Asia, we don't get the 4kids experience here
STARGAZER 356 YO ME TOO I LIVE HERE IN ASIA AND I'M GLAD I DIDNT WATCH THE SHIT KNOWN AS 4KIDS.
Well yu gi oh 4kids is hilarious and a travesty you have not watched it
@Gamer Ps0 fair my guy I find it so fucking funny and cringy it's high art at this point hahahaha
Yea i hate 4kids its bullsh*t
Y’know am happy that one piece wasn’t my first anime, cuz if it was it would be ruining my life just by looking at the 4kids so I knew one piece in like 2017 and didn’t know there was a 4kids one and yeah one piece is one of my favourite anime’s and thank gosh I didn’t watch the 4kids version first.
Like you, my first exposure to One Piece was through 4Kids, and if there is ONE thing I am grateful for, it's that I was too young and stupid to realize how bad it was. Because if I wasn't, I might have been one of those people who wrote the series off as an awful kids show. But even with how bad it was, it still managed to make me a fan of the series. Then, years later, I caught an episode of the Funimation Dub, which made me realize I'd never seen the show proper, and one binge session later, I had fallen in love with the series all over again.
i was the exact same way. im fully caught up in anime now and about 400 chapters into manga
Tbh 4kids was my introduction to One Piece and even though it hasn’t aged well, I was still hooked on it from day 1 and strange to say if it wasn’t for 4kids dub I wouldn’t have gotten into One Piece as early as I did so. One piece is my number 1 anime and I’m looking forward to knowing how it ends
That may be but that does’nt mean it deserves respect. One piece has beem taken off Toonami TWICE because people still had that bad first impression.
You know apart of me lowkey really wanted the 4kids version to go on just to see how they would do Franky and especially Brook since they cut out Laboon. You know Brook's main goal in the story I really wanted to see how they'll butcher that.
His name is zolo, he's like a samurai
and an L-A-D-Y Nami's not shy
Usopps doing that marksman thing
Sanjis cooking
Chopper's doctoring
YAYAYOOOOOYAYOOOOO
HOHO
S t H a p i beg you
Set sail for One Piece
Ooooh~ Geico Geico!
In the mid 00's I was into Naruto, Bleach, and Jojo, however I was reluctant to start One Piece since it looked kinda goofy. However I gave it a chance because it had quite a bit of hype on online communities. I was shocked at how amazing One Piece was, and still is to this very day.
Agreed about pacing.
Nowadays we don't have filler arcs. One Piece fillers always felt like part of the story.
We get pages of the manga stretched into full episodes, not to mention that each episode now has a ridiculously long 5-7 min recap.....
They should have added a filler arc after Dressrosa, Zou and Whole Cake...
YO HO HO HE TOOK A BITE OF GUM GUM
4kids dub slaps tho
As a kid i saw 1 episode of One Piece with my 4kids cartoons and I wrote the show off for YEARS!! Then a coworker told me that if i read the manga i would love it and so i gave it a shot. 10 years later and i still anxiously await new manga chapters, i even watch the anime from time to time as the voice actors are amazing and you can never have too much One Piece!
You really got me when you said "no thanks, I'll take the ninjas instead." Too real brother 😆
Hey just to expand on the "Zolo" part, I'm french and started reading One Piece in ... 2007 iirc, at the time some character's names had been sort of translated, like usopp who was called "Pipo" (sort of slang word for lying in french), and Sanji was "Sandi". But around volume 60 or something, the Editor of the manga in France (Glenat) decided to change the translation, calling Usopp Usopp and Sanji Sanji (among many many other mistranlations) and re-edited EVERY volume up until that point. I don't see why they couldn't do that in the US (speaking for the books and not the dubs ofc (much more work to re-dub everything), it's better for everyone, the new readers, the readers that caught up with the manga and know the real names, and also for the editor who can expect to sell everything again to some fans.
I think it has to do more with copy rights. Since a company already holds a right on the name zoro.
The current english translator for One Piece has mentioned that Viz (the company that translates the series into English) decided to keep Zolo because it was cheaper just to keep the name, rather than go back and reprint every volume. I don’t know how popular One Piece is in France, but it’s definitely not popular enough in America for it to be worth reprinting everything for a name change.
@@Frosty31415 Yeah I guess I didn't realise that it was so "unpopular" still in the US. One Piece has actually been at the top of the manga sales for some years now
@@gilbertoflores7397 This is why copy right laws are fucking stupid and founded on brain dead logic.
@@Frosty31415 That's stupid considering they originally did translate Zoro's name properly until the 4kids dub came out in the States and they reprinted every volume they had released at that point with the Zolo change.
It took me nearly a whole decade to get back into One Piece after 4kids, I didn’t start the manga till my high school days around 2009-2010. Another decade later it’s one of my favorite manga and one of the manga I reviewed the most on my channel whenever life allowed it.
Well, I as a German was lucky enough to get a just slightly censored version of one piece.
They cut things like Nami stabbing her Tatoo, not entirely, but the scene is not as long as it is in the original.
And that I find completely fine, because while children can see blood they don't necessarily need to see Nami stabbing her tatoo for 20 seconds to understand that Nami is in desperate need of help from Luffy.
I think 4Kids would have just cut out Brook's backstory entirely. Make him just a non-dead dude who ate the Skeleton-Skeleton Fruit, got lost in the Florian Triangle, and 5 years ago had his shadow stolen by Moria. They would just completely remove any and all references to him being a dead man, the Rumbar Pirates, and Laboon.
12:16
I remember growing up with the german dub of one piece on tv and it being actually quite good, i was obviously not that good at speaking english and would only find my love for the series years later. But oh gosh the intro of the german dub in the first season or so was just phenomenal (to kid me), and to this day pure nostalgia and hype.
Honestly I thought smoker constantly exhaling smoke even without the cigars was really cool. Still do
That’s not smoke it’s steam coming from the steam-steam fruit mmmmmmm steam-steam fruit
It’s not smoke it’s steam you fool
"Subscribe or go to a nice room in a dungeon for the rest of your days." OH I'M UPSET
This is kind of a soft spot for me, as an Italian viewer.
Not only the company that owns the Italian dub is horrendously scummy (they own both OP and Naruto, OP is stuck in Fishaman Island and Naruto never ended, still in the middle of the War Arc), but 4kids reached even over here (after all, most adapters would use english texts as their base, 4kids even worked here if I remember correctly).
The story is like the original, it was not changed like the 4kids version and it hit the right demografic for the most part, but they decided to make a few ENORMOUS changes (they were probably obbligated from one of the higher ups):
- Luffy... in Italy he is "Monkey D Luffy, known as *RUBBER* "... yep that's his name, Rubber. Every time they read his bounty poster that exact phrase is uttered
- How about the infamous Devil Fruits? The fruits that make a faustian pact with its eater, giving them a particular power in exchange for their swimming abilities... they are called "Sea Fruits", which in Italian is the same noun used to talk about Sea food. I can clearly feel the sense of danger.
- There are other changes which make the story much more confused that it needs to be, like Sanji's dream being to find the All blue, or as it is called here "Grande Blu" (literally traslated in "Big Blue", but this is not the problem), which is the same name given to the Grand Line, so Sanji literally wants to find the Grand Line... ok
When someone more capable took the role to adapt the series it was already too late and these problems needed to stay for continuity's sake.
With the films they started taking more liberties, literally fixing the series (seeing as what the movies depict is much further the point the anime adaptation reached here, so they can go on and talk as if they were talking to the dedicated fans who are well aware of the adaptation problems):
Luffy is Luffy once more, Devil Fruits came back and they even changed more stuff by translating the Admiral names in their real meaning, making it more clear how they are not their real names and just titles (example: Kizaru in Stampede is called "Scimmia Gialla" , aka "Yellow Monkey")
It has gotten better, but no one has any hope for the anime adaptation anymore
Boh alla fine frutti del mare davano l'idea di appartenere a quel mondo, e di esserne parte integrante, o magari sono io che faccio troppi viaggi con la mente, però non mi ha mai tiltato tanto quanto Rubber o altro
C'è però da dire che per quanto riguarda le censure sono state ridotte al minimo, eliminando giusto solo scene di troppo nudo (es: bagno ad alabasta) o scene effettivamente un po' pesanti (es spandam che calpesta ripetutamente Robin)
@@lucabertani225 si giusto, infatti ho scritto come non hanno cambiato aspetti della storia in modo particolare come la 4kids. COmunque, la roba dei frutti del mare è abbastanza scandalosa, molto peggio di Luffy e Rubber.
Per Rubber alla fine si parla di un nome, sticazzi, magari poteva anche servire per far allineare il labiale; frutti del mare ha diverse implicazioni:
1) dà l'idea che siano collegati al mare, data la preposizioni si suppone ne sia l'origine, di sicuro non dà l'idea di un patto faustiano che impedisce di nuotare e anzi aumenta il collegamento con l'acqua
2) parlando di origine, un nome del genere ha fatto a pensare a me e a tanti altri che questi frutti avessero degli alberi marini o vaccate del genere solo perchè con hanno voluto usare la denominazione "del DIAVOLO", probabilmente per la 4kids con le sue spinte senza riferimenti religiosi
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For non-italians, Luca pointed out how the italian version did not cerson stuff with only really minor exception (which is true, the story is mainly faithful) and how the "Sea Fruits" (Frutti del mare in italian) change is minor when compared with the "Rubber" change, and here i disagree:
the Sea Fruits nomination actually implicates some kind of relation between the 2, and due to the words used it kind of implies that the Sea is actually its origin, making hundreds of children think that these fruits actually came from some sort of underwater tree; most certainly it does not give any idea to the spectator that this object actually makes its eater incapable of swimming
@@lucabertani225 potevi anche scrivere in inglese eh ahahahah, così chi venisse a leggere non capirebbe nulla
@@nuredingeziqi679 si beh in effetti anch'io avevo sempre pensato a degli alberi, però comunque rispetto alla versione della 4kids la nostra è oro colato ahaha
Tra l'altro, per me il problema con one piece era sempre stato l'orario, io non avevo mai visto alcuna puntata se non qualche spezzone di water 7 e Ennies Lobby, e l'ho praticamente scoperto nell'ultimo annetto, neanche
This time imma translate myself lol, tho I mostly mentioned some personal stuff
I also thought that fruits came from trees, but a reason for me not to get in touch with OP in the first place was the airing time, at which I'd never really be able to see it, recalling only some few things from Water 7 and Ennies Lobby
@@lucabertani225 che fosse meglio della versione 4kids è certo ahahah, almeno avevamo la storia completa, nonostante queste problematiche che tutto sommato sono piccolezze
GrandLine: Talks about how important first impressions are. Me: Flashbacks to every single one of Luffy's abysmal first impressions
Well, I'm from Italy and yes, the anime was my first exposure to the series. It was treated extremely well, for the most part, especially when it came to the dub, getting a lot of the heavy hitters from the anime dubbing community from my country - like for example Nami had the same VA as Bulma and Sakura, Chopper had the same VA as Kid Goku and Kid Gohan, and many others. Hell, they even kept the same laughs - I still remember Moria's laugh from the Italian dub, it was so good. The most censorship we had was the same we had on DragonBall, which was; instead of saying "I'm going to kill you" they said "I'm going to destroy you" and the likes; so while the visuals were never changed, some names were. The main thing was: Italy used to be, much more than it is now, a heavy Catholic country, so Devil Fruits became "Sea Fruits" instead. The most remarkable thing though was the name of Luffy; yes, at the beginning of the dub, he was called Rubber. Yeah, the English name Rubber on the Italian show instead of Luffy. Later, I think after Enies Lobby, the dub completely embraced Luffy as its name - well, here they call it Rufy - using the Japanese phonetics - but still. I think with Film Gold and Stampede they actually finally use Luffy.
However, I do agree. If it wasn't for that embarrassing dub, I have no doubt OnePiece would be a huge deal in the English spoken countries. But now that the whole series is available on digital - in both Anime and Manga form - I think we're seeing it make a comeback.
What will make it or break it though is without a doubt going to be the Netflix show at this point. If that is done well - and since Netflix is naturally targeted at OnePiece's core demographic - that could mean a resurgence in the West. If.
NGL I kinda want the 4Kids dub to continue, it would be beyond hilarious to see their take on stuff like Thriller Bark and Marineford.
thousands of people dying no they are just sleeping
Sakazuki punched Ace so hard he got knocked out forever
,,my cursed fruit, donut-donut no mi, has the ability to make donuts and change people into them! i can also make donuts so hot they look like magma. Now, I will let ya see it with the help of my friend, Portgas D. Trace, who had fully consented to this!''
@@sakiyoshida1788 ayyy similar pfp's
I am so glad that I grew up in Germany where we have one of the best one piece dub version. The voices are great and the dubbed openings are amazing.
Glad I never had to suffer anything 4kidz
Hey GrandLineReview love your content, keep it up❤
To be fair Toei Animation ruined One Piece even without the censorship.
I wished they would take a page out of Toho book. Because My Hero Academia is very good adaptation.
Without it it might not even be apart of the big 3
nope
@@madtitanoboa462 I love one One Piece but man the pacing is so awful especially post timeskip. Not to mention the animation until Wano is meh at best.
@@madtitanoboa462 yep.. its a widely known fact that toei poorly animated the show and ruined it with bad pacing.
That nice room in a dungeon sounds so tempting
Ive been converting all of my anime friends into Nakama, and every-single one originally thought it was a kids show. The good word of Oda and the great story of One Piece will take hold. Cause eventually people will come to realize the masterpiece that One Piece is.
I remember watching the 4Kids dub on Cartoon Network also in Australia. I liked the theme song and I liked the pirate theme but even then I felt like something was off with the characters and I switched off.
I do recall that the funimation dub did reach Australia later and seeing a few episodes of Skypea arc but at that point I was completely lost how did they get there and what are they doing?
And finally thanks to the internet and my adult nostalgia I randomly searched One Piece and watching the original dub and never looked back, moved into the manga as well....and I’m in my 30s now...
I think I’m one of the few people who fell in love with one pice via the 4kids dub.
I thought 4kidz Sanji and his lollipop was badass and exclusively ate lolipops like smoking cigarettes ( a fact I realized later), DONT COME FOR ME.
I was lucky b/c the first episode I ever watched was from the Drum Island arc where Luffy climbs to Dr. Kureha’s. I was so invested in how he got there and what happened next that, 9 y old me spent hours trying to find the 4kids episodes online. When all I could find was the “obviously” lower quality subbed episodes( how naive I was). I resigned myself to settling for those until I found the English ones. 16 years later I still haven’t found them and I couldn’t be happier.
I honestly think One Piece boosted my reading level b/c I had to get faster at reading subtitles so I didn’t have to pause the show every other second.
Ngl, I was hesitant to start One Piece again in 2013 because of the extremely childish nature of the 4kids dub. My cousin was watching it in Japanese and convinced me to start it. Was the first time I started to seriously watch anime and the first time I watched anime subbed.
The dub was awful but without the 4kids dub I wouldn’t have even know about one piece
DREAMIN' yayo yayo!
Ya but if 4kids dub would not have been present then something else would be......
Something better
@@rajatmahore8925 Doubtful. 4kids was during an era where anime was completely brand new to the west. If 4kids didn't pick it up, it wouldnt have gotten dubbed at least for 5 to 10 more years (when funimation picked it up)
@@Xeno455 Better late than terrible.
Then you’d just get the Funimation one
German dub is soo good, every voice just works and there are almost no censorship.
Also the first opening is different than in any other language which makes it even greater to me.
I remember watching the 4Kids dub of One Piece (CN in New Zealand)...it was something that came on tv that I decided to give a go because anime. One of the few episodes I watched was the episode where Shanks saved Luffy and sacrifices his arm in the process. I loved that bit fondly, it had heart and gave Luffy a reason to respect Shanks and his Straw Hat so much. The other episodes I remember watching were from the Albastas arc. Overall though, I never got into following the series at that time because the 4Kids dub made it feel like such a kid show and the dubbing itself was weak (relative to Ghost in the Shell SAC, NGE, Dragon Ball Z). And then I got into One Piece in 2008 after experiencing Bleach and Naruto for a few years. I devoured the series with the passion of a thousand burning suns consuming the 343 episodes that were out in 10 days and taking a further 2 days to watch all the movies released and catch up to the latest manga chapter (chapter 488). It was glorious, emotional and is one of the most beloved series I have read/watched/experienced. It was also eye-opening in how bad and tragic the 4Kids dub of One Piece was. It wouldn't be an overstatement to say that the 4Kids dub of One Piece really did ruin One Piece to the western audience. If only there were a devil fruit that had the ability to go back in time to rewrite it...
I was new to anime and I kind of remember liking it a lot as a kid on CN, the barati and Arlong arcs got my hype levels all the way to the stratosphere, but little did I know the truth...
Wouldn’t have made a difference to me. When it comes to anime, UK is in the stone age. They had a pretty cool channel back in the early 2000s called CNX which was later called Toonami, which had a lot of anime. But they quickly pulled the plug on that and never spoke about it again. To this day, there’s no anime channels on tv, and the only way to watch anime is to stream it using sites like Crunchyroll or Funimation, which is a crying shame as it chokes out any new generation from growing up with anime here in the UK.
the UK has POP which is a channel that shows a lot of anime made more specifically for kids, Funimation somehow put Dragon Ball Super in there but it makes sense how.
You can watch anime on websites on your laptops and phones, a good website would be AnimeKisa.Tv
Greatcoolman2 Ohh! I just checked it out. It’s a pretty cool entry point for anime, like Dragon Ball Super and Pokemon Sun and Moon, but it’s mostly filled with pretty weird CG shows during the day and even late at night, like ALVINNN and the Chipmunks or Transformers Cyberverse. Well gotta take the good with the bad, I suppose. I had to get through pretty weird shit like Cubix or Angela Anaconda just to get to DBZ, lol! It’s night just now and finished airing, so I’ll take a proper look at it and make a good judgement on it once it starts back up again in the morning.
I made a comment to my roommate the other day that it was kinda surprising how much attention One Piece was getting (at least in America) right now with the sub being put on Netflix, a Netflix live action series in the works, the dub coming back and other stuff. And they were like??? Its one of the most popular Manga of all time??? HEY LISTEN! You weren’t there for the 4Kids! Dub alright! It bombed in America! Its new found popularity is new to me
I'm really sad the 4kids dub ended. I really wanted to see the sad story of Brook and the iceberg.
1:14 so he’s the guy that caused all this suffering
If 4kidz were still dubbing the anime,
They would have changed ace’s death to them escaping
Haven’t watched one of your vids in awhile but man...I get a notification from your channel every morning. You’re killing it, man. Love your vids. Gonna binge what I’ve missed soon.
I hope you enjoy! :D
@GrandLineReview, Sorry but I laughed my ass off at your exasperation on how 4KIDS entertainment was made haha.
Thankfully my sister's friend introduced into the subs when I was very young back then... so young I didint even know what anime was.
I started watching when the Dressrosa arc was the latest.
I might of never came across One Piece if it wasn’t for 4Kids. But, I do wish that I got to watch the original when I was younger though because I know I would of enjoyed it so much more!
I think there’s a weird anomaly in certain countries where comedy manga and anime are less popular/focused on. One of the reasons I say that is here in the UK where I am we never get comedy focused anime’s released on dvd/blu Ray, even the famous ones (although if it has another genre attached to it like action or harem it’ll be more likely to be released).
Impel down arc seems like one that they would just completely take out 😂😂
They would have a REALLY hard time censoring domino... hell, they’d probably just erase her
@@stefannotchev7209 Yeah and considering this was during that time period
Ivankov wouldn't slide either, removing him would literally wreck impel down arc, marineford arc and Sanji's horrific 2 year training period.
@@stefannotchev7209 Also I think Domino would survive 4kids censorship a bit....Sadi on the otherhand... she would get exterminated due to her sadistic appearance and her personality doesn't help much either.
The effect of the 4Kids dub truly is mindblowing. One of my first anime experiences was Naruto and I have next to no recollection of One Piece. I thought it was a kiddy show and can only seem to remember a phrase from 4kids opening "ya-yo! ya-yo!" I can't help but wonder if One Piece was one of my first anime experiences. Suffice it to say, I'd be happier. Naruto would go on to let me down in countless ways none of which One Piece has even scratched.
13:20 zoro is said as Zolo due to copy write reasons with the DC character Zorro
That's the most repeated lie that I had seen.
It's funny you know, because here in Europe, or rather in Austria, there were several versions of One Piece running, all of them during the day, so when I found out about the censorship ( especially when I saw Zorro drinking Water & Juice ) I switched to the uncensored one and sticked with it and din't give the other version much of thought
I wonder how they would have handled brook and the whole death thing we know 4kids REALLY doesn't like death
Fun fact: a similar thing happened with One Piece in Italy.
I used to hate one piece as a kid, and loved naruto much much more,, i would turn off the TV when one piece was airing and barely bothered with it, and yet around 22 yo i decided to sit the fuck down and watch the subbed one piece from the beginning and Oh My God it blew me away.
One Piece is much MUCH more mature than what people give it credit for, and even tho i dont wanna shit on the Shonens of my adolescence (Naruto and KHR mostly) watching One Piece from the start was incredible and even now i suggest to fearful 30 yo friends to give one piece a shot.
It's not nearly as edgy, flashy or cool for a teenager as Naruto or hell even DBZ, but has many more resonant themes, amazing characters, an incredibly detailed world and concrete and relatable stories. A coup d'Etat achieved by making the people hate the monarchy by subtile meanings, a travel to a completely different civilization that worships a powerful figure like a God, a government that demolishes an island and chases a little kid to be sure no one discovers how they got to power, a deep root of racism, discrimination and slavery that leads to the rebellion of a suppressed minority, how are those themes for kids exactly?!?
They are for kids, if you not expose kid to this themes in a manner while they are growing and learning, they will be as racist and inhumane as the celestials dragons
Zoro english VA was honestly one of the only few bright spots in the 4kids dub that had Brooklyn Sanji which is one of many negatives
the localization changes to the script was in itself a complete negative, you'd think Perona had hollow'd the shit out of the writers
i just finished it, actually. all censorship aside, i actually liked their voice acting and their voices are definitely worth imitating. if i could do all of them i would but i can't, especially luffy's. but nevertheless i still liked the way the voices of the strawhats and the villans were portrayed. my favorite villan from this dub would have to be crocodile, but as for the strawhats, that's a pretty tough decision. you've got sanji and his brooklyn accent which in my opinion kinda fits, actually, then there's usopp's voice which is pretty good, next we have luffy's voice. believe me if i were still younger than i actually am i probably would be able to imitate it, but puberty's a thing so what can you do? i mean i might be able to try and replicate his funimation voice but still. next up is nami. all i can say is Kerry Williams did this one justice. after that we've got chopper. the decision to alternate voices between his regular and monster forms was actually a good idea. robin's "texas" accent may have fitted the character for now but i wonder how her voice actress would have delivered her lines later on in the series had 4kids still dubbed one piece(fun fact: Did you know she also did the voice of ash when 4kids had pokemon?) as for zolo, well Marc Driason was a perfect match. i'll have to get used to Chris Sabat now that i'm where funimation started at. it's a shame they didn't bring this cast back when funimation took over. that's all i can say. but the rap song? the rap song was actually pretty fun to sing along to.
Yeah it didn’t feel like they COMPLETELY hated the source material
Even though 4kids ruined so many anime, I still have a soft spot for them. I grew up with their dubs and I still like certain ones (Kanto league Pokemon). Those chimes that they used in their classic logo bring up lots of great memories when I was just a carefree kid collecting Pokémon and Yu-Gi-Oh! cards.
But yea.... their One Piece dub is quite terrible (especially since I had been reading the Monthly Shonen Jump before it premiered on the FoxBox).
Can you please do audiobooks? I can’t get enough of your buttery voice.
It wasn’t completely awful, there was some funny dialogue.
And the one piece rap.
No
No there wasn't
@@pokemaster4588 Its called an opinion bruh, chill ya beans.
Funny is not equal to good.
hand me your rubber knife, Ussopp
It's always funny to me that some people say they couldn't get into One Piece because of the art style, because when I was a kid, I thought all the anime/manga looked the same and got into One Piece BECAUSE of it's cartoony art style. I just remember seeing a promo for it on TV and saw one of my friends reading it in class and thought the art looked cool, and am recently thinking of starting over and re-reading it
Fun Fact: FUNimation actually produced two different versions of the dub!
One was aired on Toonami and kept many of the edits 4Kids made for continuity, like Zolo and non-smoking Sanji. (I believe this went up to the end of Thriller Bark before Toonami cancelled it.)
The other, exclusive to their DVD releases, was as faithful to the source as it could possibly be, and retains every cigarette, cleavage shot, blood spatter, and (most importantly) the R in Zoro!
That's how I experienced One Piece up until the end of Impel Down, and I have never had any regrets.
hopefully the latter dub will be aired on netflix... cause if they air the 4kids one, netflix may be a lil off in their thinking.....
The 4 kids dub scared me away from this incredible series for 15 plus years man I’m 23 years old and one of the best decisions I ever made was giving it another shot and Diving into all mediums, I can easily say it’s up there with naruto shippuden bleach etc that I actually watched during my teen years (aka most impressionable) love your vids grand line hope you see this!!
smoker with no cigarettes but still having smoke is kinda cooler the normal smoker imo
Imagine if 4kids had to censor the entirety of Amazon Lily, or every scene with Boa in it.
Not to mention Marineford, where people literally fought in a war. Don’t want to spoil but you know what happens if u saw it.
They were going to have a hard time with Nami after timeskip too.
You mean every girl in post ts imagine how they’d handle rebecca
I'll only thank 4 kids for the opening theme. It was catchy af
Honestly (alright hit me with those death threat comments you rats) I think the One Piece rap is still better than We are. 🤷♂️
bulletproofman323 Despicable.
True
YOOO YA YO YA YO DREAMIN
I recently started watching the series on Netflix and I've been missing that bangin theme song.
Thank god i started one piece last year 😂
Any One piece Dub is bad
Quilo Sky yeah it’s awesome Krillin is Usopp. *Krillin is Usopp*
@Quilo Sky bro have you ever watched One piece in original Japanese 😂, dont compare them, bcz dub is significantly inferior to the sub, just one word is enough and that is "Sugoii" from luffy, that alone is better than entirety of dub. You either haven't watched it in sub, or are just spitting.
@@Nobody11111 just saying facts bruh 🙂
@Quilo Sky bruh, one word, Whitebeard
His voice was so utterly bad, Then you have Dragon, Crocodile, Roger, Luffy
And so many more. Seriously bro 🤦♂️, if you actually think Dub>Sub than sorry you need some new ears
But whatever, its your opinion, i can respect that but sure as hell not agree with that
I was gonna continue this, but in the end, You are also a one piece fan, and i can respect that
Cheers 🍻
Axel Blaze did you say dbz dub is worse than sub? Have you not heard Chris Sabat's Saiyan pride speech when vegeta was a Majin? That’s one of the best pieces of dub in anime in my opinion. Dbz dub is better than sub because everyone sounds manly whereas everyone in the sub despite being talented, all sound like old ladies
WOw didn't know you were Aussie too, couldn't tell by your accent, almost as big and surprising as one of Oda's twists!
can we all give props to the fact that Funimation is doing one hell of a job dubbing the series right now?
Our own infamous Rock D.Xebec of reality, it left an impact still felt through the one piece fandom and when mentioned it either induces rage or laughs.
the opening is a banger tho.
I found that opening extremely cringy although I am 19 now as a kid that would've prob been fire in my ears
Kizaru I didn’t grow up with it but still know all the lyrics.
They, t-They got rid of Laboon
The entire reason why Brook joins Luffy's crew. Part of the reason I fucking love brook so much.
And he's edited out
Why?
NOT FIRST
Lmao nvm I an
Indeed. But still.
You were second bud
4kids is Richard Nixon's head in that one episode of Futurama where he had to edit an extremely violent show.
4kids Sanji dub is the OG dub for me and when he didn't sound like a stuffy nosed new jersey man i was very surprised and tbh i stopped watching it until marineford and started reading it lol.
Luv u fammo hope you and your loved ones are doing well still in the pandemicnessz
I didn't get into one piece until around punk hazard area. 4Kids really did leave a bad taste to me as a kid. Naruto was my go to in highschool and I graduated in 2009. After a friend of mine just keep digging into me to watch the great awesomeness that is ONE PEICE I've had no regrets I even cosplayed Zorro one summer. Even now I've been trying to get to wife into it. (Just delt with Foxy) Straw Hats for life
I still belive we could have another shot two one piece become more popular and here is why:
-Covid 19
-One pice in netflix
-One piece in live action
-Spanish TH-camrs spekears
And i would explain how the spanish youtubers are making a change.
Me dicen dai is a very famous spanish talker youtuber that make anime videos.
And is makimg first impresions of it.
And its calling the attention lf naruto fans because he does a lot of naruto.
And in the latinoamerica parts as mexico yous little amount of persons watched the censured version so one piece dosnt have the titile of a funny and not serious our god anime.
It yous not that popular.
But latetly more spanish youtubers are makin one piece content what is making more people look one piece.
With covid 19 a lot of people are in ther homes and with all of these youtubers talking amazing things of one piece and creating polemics are making them give it a tried tho the series now that they have nothing to do and nothing to loss.
The live action could bring atention to new fans it is made well and not like death note live action, and being in a livestreem plataform helps more.
I tried to switch to the official release of the one piece manga on the Jump app when RogersBase did... Zolo... I dropped the series till 1 or 2 days ago because I wanted to follow the official release, but it was lower quality than fan translations... I’ll go back to the Official release when they care enough to get character names right.
We need the power of Filthy Acts At A Reasonable Price or the cheaper option of Dirty Deeds Done Dirty Cheap or the new lite version of D4C