The One Piece World is Bigger Than We Thought
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Your math is backwards when it comes to Viola. Dressrosa isn't a minimum of 4000km, it's a maximum of 4000km. Its entirely possible Viola can see a bit beyond the island, she just states she can see everything on the island with her power.
Thanks for pointing that out. Thought the same thing
Beat me too it. 🙆♂️
It would only be this way if she stated that she can‘t see beyond the shore. But yeah this way it is a really sloppy mistake honestly .
Ye I thought that
exactly
Man that colossal titan really puts things into perspective lol. The people of One Piece would look at the Rumbling and be like "lmao that's it?"
Little giants eating dwarves
Luffy would eat them all😭
@@Joyboy553unlimited food supplies 😂😂
Cringe anime tryin to steal are stereotypes of size? It aint gon work. Texas is just to great!
@@Texan_christian1132 I think this is satire but it would be even funnier if it wasn't.
Ah yes, information about fictional pirates administered directly into my TH-cam feed.
Can't wait until it's administered directly into my bloodflow
We don't say "yarghh" We laugh...
HHAHAHAH
@@destiny6080 YOHOHOHOHOHOHOHO!
Whenever he says that i imagine him flicking a syringe
@@destiny6080 ZEHAHAHAHAHAHA!
The fact that the Celestial Dragons are having bridges built that may be 1 million kms long is quite insane, but it explains why the bridges seem to make no progress.
The calculations in this video are totally wrong. Dressrosa is much smaller than Alabasta and Alabasta is much smaller than Australia. Still, the one piece world is definitely bigger than our world. 2 times radius would means 4 times surface area. Which is sufficient.
@@AnimeCriticalWould you mind elaborating on how they're wrong?
@@notherapy4u If you see dressrosa, there are several aerial shots and from that you can tell dressrosa is pretty small. The same aerial shots which were used to calculate alabasta. Plus viola's power, doesn't mean she can only see within dressrosa. So her 4000 miles doesn't mean dressrosa is 4000 miles.
@@AnimeCritical So, as it turns out, someone did the math. By calculating the size of the bridge from Green Bit to Dressrossa based off of Robin's height, they then calculated the size of green bit, and then to Dressrossa.....which turns out to be about 12 miles in diameter. So, if I had to hazard a guess, then you might be right in that it's not 4000 miles.
@@notherapy4u From the Aerial shots, Dressrosa seems around 100-150 miles.
This may also explain some of the One Piece time tables as well. If their planet is that big then their days are likely much longer than ours. That would explain how seemingly so much is always packed into such short time frames in the One Piece world.
Underrated comment here!
honestly you make a very good point. I don't believe anything is ever stated how long days are in the one piece world. It could also explain how they get from island to the next in only one or two days sometimes.
Very good point. We might also question how long is an year in the one piece world. Luffy is 19 right now but in Earth years he might be way older (or younger if the planet rotates super fast around the one piece sun)
They use the 24-hour clock though. It was a huge plot point during Whole Cake.
@@brandontheurer1372 yeah but their 24 hours are longer than our 24 hours, mind you we base hours on earths rotation around its own axis and larger planets rotate slower.
That space arc is gonna hit like premium crack
You'll cowards don't even smoke crack
I called a space arc a few chapters into egghead something was just bugging me it better happen.
@@erueka6 Enel is literally up there right now. How funny would it be if the Uranus is in space, Enel notices it, and does as Enel does and just zaps the everloving shit out of it and makes it malfunction purely because that's what he's done to every new thing he's encountered since entering space? xD
@@kitsunekage12 Isn't Uranus what Imu used to destroy Lulusia. Cause in Vegapunks msg he exposed the existence of the ancient weapons during his apology and from what I understood, the WG stole the mother flame to use as FUEL for the ancient weapon.
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This just makes the whole "the crew was only together for a few weeks/months" even more unbelieveable.
A planet that massive would have significantly longer day & night cycles (which would explain how a massive arc like Dressrossa could take place on a single day).
@@TheRockerX That's literally not true at all. The two biggest planets in our solar system also have the shortest days (Jupiter is just under 10 hours, Saturn is a bit over 10.5 hours).
@@shadowfate05those are Gas planets .....the One Piece is a solid planet so your argument is invalid
@@shadowfate05 that is bullshit saturn and jupiter are gas planets and the one piece is a solid rock planet
@@Supernamek-rh2xv So how does Venus factor in to your calculations? One day there takes 243 Earth days, but it is slightly smaller and less dense than Earth.
“Prove it with fictional facts” is the funnest statement I’ve ever heard
Cringe anime tryin to steal are stereotypes of size? It aint gon work. Texas is just to great!
@Texan_christian do you have autism?
Makes Rayleighs little swim a lot more impressive
Yeah if coby can swim as fast as a turpido then Rayleigh should be higher so high woah oh oh
😂😂😂
Cringe anime tryin to steal are stereotypes of size? It aint gon work. Texas is just to great!
It should be noted that the maximum possible size of a rocky planet (not a gas giant) is about 2.5 times the size of Earth. Planets above 1.6 tend to have large amounts of Hydrogen or Helium in them. After that, physics will cause it to become so dense that it looks more like a neutron star. Jupiter is large enough to contain 1,300 Earths, because it's a gas giant. Needless to say, the actual answer is that Oda doesn't care. He probably just sizes things around 4,000 km because it sounded like a reasonable number at the time, and he just kept the scale as the plot got more and more inflated. OR devil fruits, haki, etc and "it's magic" is the answer.
Physics dont apply lol
considering we have people who can flick snot that explodes, who are made of light, rubber, and everything in between... I think we can chock it up to physics dont exist in OP like they do here in the real world lol
It is also possible the whole planet is artifical given its bizzare size landmasses and weather
@@UpperNileGuyA much better conclusion is that this video is totally whack. Dressrosa is much smaller than Alabasta. It is tiny. And even Alabasta is much smaller than australia.
@@roamingmillennial2200nevermind the fantasy magic powers just think on normal human feats
Koby being able to do that mountain shattering punch
Zoro jumping up and floating in the air anime shounen style with ease, not to mention the weights he trains with
The kinds of body disintegrating blows that characters like Usopp have lived through
Viola saying she can see 4K kilometers then also being able to see all of dressrosa does not indicate that dressrosa is 4K kilometers. Unless GLR misspoke and she couldn’t see the whole island. Also it would make no sense if her max is 4K kilometers to then say it’s at least 4K, implying it could be bigger. Otherwise she would not be able to see the whole island
SO true
That's what I was gonna say. Dressrosa is "AT MOST" 4000 km, not at least.
Also, Oda is really bad with scale.
Indeed, for Arabasta and Wano I get it to be that big. But Dressrossa is Minimun Mayorca size and Maximum Sicely or Sardinia.
Yeah I was so confused like how did you come to that conclusion, surely it means it could be way smaller than 4000 too
@@TyranastraszaThe “proof” was that she couldn’t see Green Bit but this example is complete bullshit.
No islands in sight within 70.000 km and the sunny travels between islands in 1-2 days. At a speed of at least 1500 km/h, Sunny goes VROOOOOOOOOOOM
Ocean currents in One Piece, and *especially* in the Grandline, are wild dog. You've seen the crazy storms they have to go through just to get from one place to another - sometimes they'll just get yeeted to their destination.
Bro Reyligh swims across the grand line. 😂
Since the planet is so big, days should be longer too. That's why they can fit so many things into 1 day
Days seem to be veeery long in One Piece as well. Maybe weeks or months in our world.
@@erickvalverde9444 planet size has nothing to do with the day time, Jupiter day is less than 10 hours
Dressrosa must be AT MOST 4,000 km wide not at least. If she said she couldn't see something on the other side of the island then you could say that it must be at least 4,000 km + the size of the area she can't see.
Yeah I noticed that too
makes 0 sense. 4.000 km and the strawhats are all over the island in day 1
They have fucking superpowers
@@Renz0KNormal citizens ran to the center of the island, when the birdcage was closing in. Dressrosa is nowhere near the same size of Australia.
@Kaisona2017 the bird cage was in the capital city not covering the entire island
Theoretically people living in such planet is out of question because of intense gravity. But at the same time if they managed to flood the entire planet then the ancient kingdom probably has the power to change the gravity of this planet. But even so the gravity would still be much higher than earth and so that's why everyone is strong.
i think gravity is totally out of wack, considering there's sky islands, and also, every island in grandline somehow have their own geomagnetism that in different "frequency" with each other
surface gravity could very well be low. like saturn, much more massive than earth, but its surface gravity is actually basically the same as earth. because it's much less dense.
@@GraveUypo But Saturn is gas, and this planet is solid. The only way for it to have low density would be being hollow.
It hollow.
I definitely don't think Oda intended the world to be THAT big - you would die of old age before you made it from one end of the Grand Line to the other.
Cringe anime tryin to steal are stereotypes of size? It aint gon work. Texas is just to great!
nah 1 million kilometers isn't THAT bad. a plane could cross it in 40 days, a maglev train 70 days, a regular high speed train 105 days, a regular car 10-15 months, and around 20 years to walk through it. you should be able to do it in a lifetime.
@@Merluch At around 5 km walking speed it would take around 23 years but that does not factor in rest, sleep, eating and stuff.
Now to use a sailboard, I am not expert in those but I think they could do around 10km/h??! At least that is what I found with google, under favorable conditions at least. I would say in 12 years if you would constantly sail (you can't do that but let's say you would).
@@Merluch yeah but one piece has shitty sailboats that don't even use modern faster-than-the-wind navigation. it's not that much faster than walking.
@@GraveUypo but in a bigger planet, the winds would be blowing faster tho, which would also make the boats go faster
The giant ladies in elbaf would be bigger and better then the limits of my imagination 💀
Hear me out...
Snu snu
Death by Snu snu
Lots of One Piece fans are about to awaken a giantess fetish
@@greatestcait
“In which case, Gerd should stomp me to death”
-StojDoes
The pre-timeskip journey was roundabout 3 to 5 months, with a sailboat, with plenty of stops inbetween.
And so far the post skip hasn't been much longer now has it
One piece ships be different😂😂😂
@@asgardironman8867 6 weeks from Fishman Island to leaving Wano and half of that was in a 3 weeks (I think) time skip on Wano.
The see current and wind are very strong.
@@BetterAntoineBetterWorld Even then it'd be nowhere near that fast. It took months at the very least to make a decent journey on Earth by sailboat. And that's a straight line without any significant stops.
As an Aussie I love the use of Australia as a unit of measurement
Same a how he also used the UAE
Cringe anime tryin to steal are stereotypes of size? It aint gon work. Texas is just to great!
Now I wanna know how fast the Strawhats had to move across this globe to have gotten halfway around in pre timeskip in under a year.
Maybe it takes longer to go around the sun and the days are longer too..
Wouldn't surprise me if currents are 600kmh in grand line. The sea weather looks wild.
The word “ri” in chinese, more specifically “a thousand li” (千里) can also mean an expression for “a long distance”, not a precise metric of distance.
That expression has been used in the book “the art of war”
4:55 No, no Mr Internet Man. It means that at most the Island is that big, not at least. For all we know she could see all the island and several km of water.
Yes ,I was just about write the same thing
Came here to comment the same thing😂
Yes thank you! I was going crazy here
@@DerpyLaron Especially since the crew walked from the west coast to the north coast in less than a day. It's definitely not the size of Australia.
@@IamMeHere2Seewalked is extreme, from what I remember they never did that
4:43 that's not how it works, the maximum would be 4000km, if the island was 100km wide she would still be able to see everything, what could give us an actual sense of scale is wether or not she can see green bit from the other side of the island
I think the correct answer is “the world is as big as Oda wants it to be at that point in time.” Because if it is that huge then it doesn’t explain how Shanks was able to get to Marineford to stop the war so fast if he was supposedly on the other side of the world.
shanks is one of the strongest and fastest on the planet lmfao
That's a boring answer and leaves no room for speculation and fun fictional pirate math
I like the theory about under sea currents
Because they could move at extreme speeds with the right climate and such
Though honestly, I think Shanks has some kind of way to travel quicker than everyone else because he seems to do a quite easily regardless
The most widely accepted theory is that Shanks likely fast travels using the various under sea currents that are brought up from time to time.
Just because that doesn’t explain how Shanks could do it doesn’t mean it isn’t that huge. Just because we don’t know how shanks did it doesn’t mean that he couldn’t have with the world at this size.
Bruh, in reality these islands are no bigger than 50km across. Individual houses on Dressrosa would be in the order of kilometers at these scales lol
Exactly, everyone would be effin massive too if any of this was true...
But it would still be massive according to Marco
@@septic8102Why would Marco know???? The world hasn’t been mapped and especially not by him. He’s a doctor who’s spent his life in the grandline and still hasn’t been everywhere in all likelihood considering places like Little Garden don’t get visited often. He just said a large number for effect and mfs tried to calc it as hard evidence 😭
True
The math ain't mathing for me
Reverse mountain is small when the strawhats sailed in it. On the map most of the the islands can fit inside reverse mountain river
@@Anonymous25012maybe everyone actually IS effin huge 🤔
I'm very impressed on how fast they traveled around the grand line now! That boat was movin'!
I actually want some one to do the math now, need to find the reddit post to get someone on it. Because of the top of my head, I believe they did the first 1/2 of the Grand Line in 6 months. So 500,000KM. Divide that by 180 days, 2777km per day or 115km per hour. Plus we know they stayed multiple days on most islands, so that figure is even bigger. Dam though that little boat could sail.
Nami's ambition to draw all of this just think about it for a sec. Her dream might be one of the most difficult ones, not only does she need to be God talented in her own skills but to actually be able to do this, to see it all and have the time to draw it all while also nagivate the crew to safety and to their destination. Nami for sure have the hardest job on the crew! And people have the audacity to downplay on her?! Nami is a genius for pulling this off and now she's also gotten stronger and more capable of fighting in battle, she made sure to get stronger in her time skip not just study weather. She used her new weather knowledge to make her climate tact much stronger and with Zeus she might actually be far stronger than given credit for. Girl deserve praise and recognition for what she can do without any DF or super genes like Zoro and Sanji or being cyborg like Franky. This is a normal girl on her own merit, with no fighting experience who mangage to survive the Grand Line/New world just so she can stand alongside Luffy and to achieve her dream. Her intelligens and skills alone is her strengh!
Fictional pirate math is better than real meth
Meth
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I think the person who measured alabasta forgot that the sand river was probably much smaller than 30 miles wide due to the extended drought. It would be a shadow of it's normal self in that raindrop shot.
Makes sense
Then why would oda bring it up being 30miles if it isn't relevant in that time of the story
I thought the 30 mile measurement was for the current size of the sand river post-drought not pre-drought. Wouldn't the drought result in the sand river being smaller than it's initial size. Meaning the original river (pre-drought) was drastically longer than the current 30-mile river (post drought). I'm just confused and struggling to interpret these things. Maybe that's what you said since you mentioned it being a shadow of it's normal self.
@@wolf-zinstinct3655 Vivi said 30 miles, but it was probably the number she was taught. She wouldn't have any idea about current width as she'd been out of the country for a long time and the drought got considerably worse while she was away. Not to mention rivers don't stay consistently the same width and even at the time she was told that number, the place they crossed could be considerably more or less.
@BobsyagodMost sensible comments made.
I think we're overestimating it. By a shitload. The Thousand Sunny is NOT that fast, not if the Coup de Burst is considered quick for only jumping a kilometer.
Listen guys: Oda isn't good at scaling. It's fine. Just stop LITERALLY blowing things out of proportion.
that's less fun though
Why wouldn't it be that fast? We never exactly got a good measurement of speed for any of the ships, the few times we see the Sunny on the open sea they're going in crusing speed since they'll be near the next island soon anyway, the few times we've seen Sunny go fast, it has gone damn fucking fast
@@Aech420 Basic geometry, mate, I don't know what to tell you.
Lol unfortunately this is a very good point haha
He’s not great with time either. Duval’s looks to be months long, but we see maybe a week from Water 7 to Sabaody?
My only issue, in the water 7 arc; they mentioned there are 170 nations in the world government. Do a lot of them just have sub islands then
Enies lobby*
Many islands/countries may not be in the world government. As such, they wouldn’t be included in that 170 nations.
Well they could just be eaither uninhabited islands or not associated with the world government even in real world there's thousands of islands but only 200 countries
Sweden has 267,570 islands.
Twice the size of Jupiter yet circumnavigate-able in just a few months in a sailing ship. Gotta love manga physics
Dam the ships must be super fast
To be fair... The winds are pretty strong, giant tornadoes and shit, and a bigger planet might mean a slower rotation, but I don't know if a faster rotation only applies to gas giants
Its simply not that big😭
@yudasrain4774
Our earth: yeah it's not that big, I can still grow. Don't look at one piece earth size you baka
Now, imagine how big the sunken world is under the sea, these are only the islands, the landmasses will be HUGE 🔥🔥
5:50 No, 千里 in this context just means great distance. You'll often see case of 万里 and 千里 used to denote great distances. For example, the Great Wall of China in Japanese is 万里の長城 but it's definitely not 10,000 ri.
This needs to go up, "thousand" and "myriad" (i.e. ten thousand), when not further qualified, are more often than not just literary superlatives for quantities in East Asian cultures and do _not_ denote actual numbers.
Oda might have pulled a sneaky by making Viola's ability's name literal - as he is wont to with his multiple puns throughout the series - but concrete proof like data books will be needed to establish that. And considering Wano's traditional themes it's even less likely for the range of the arrow messages to be literal.
yeh, it's clearly supposed to just mean, "really f'ing far"
11:53 Imagine how big the Star One piece world Should be Orbiting ☠️
Yeah fr
A red dwarf could actually capture the one piece planet although it has to be very close
Dressrosa is Village level in Size ... Not even a city level..
Average Citizens of Dressrosa were almost able to reach the centre of the island is less than few hours.... Viola can see 4000 thousand or whatever doesn't mean that that Dressrosa is as big as her viewing range... It's just that Dressrosa is within her range..
By your logic Pica will be Mid-sized Country level.. who clearly wasn't that big
This is the ignorant level scaling lol. It is that ridiculous. Days are probably longer as well
One piece download power level scaling hater
Listed bro one piece world bigger than planet earth that's mean don't compare one piece country with planet earth country lol .
@@NeoAstronus We straight up see the entirety of the island when it's encapsulated in the Bird Cage. It's a very small island, barely large enough to hold the city.
The travel speed on water is then insanly fast. I think i read somewhere that pre timeskip were 3 months + some unaccounted days. they sailed roughly 500 000 km in that time. If we say the unaccounted days are a month, then we get an average speed of 173 km/h.
I did an estimation of hours per day based on walking speed in Alabasta and got around 50 hours/day. If i give the strawhats an average sailing speed of 20 km/h, then the world can at most have a circumference of 240 000 km.
If you don't mind me asking, how did you get these results? I am trying to understand where people's math come from so I can do the same on my own. For example, how did you get a rough estimate of 500,000 km of sailing possibly 4 months. Is there a statistic somewhere on the internet that measures the average sailing speed in a set amount of time? Just trying to learn this,
@@wolf-zinstinct3655 grandlinereview said that the whole circumference of the planet was 1 000 000 km and they sailed around half the world in pre timeskip, so ca 500 000 km. The time is based on all the times Oda specifies how much time has passed. If you sum that up you get roughly 90 days + sometime he states several days later. So i just gave them 1 extra month to cover for the several days later. To get the average speed you just do 500 000 km /(120days*24hours/day)
@@JB-yl8dc Thank you for explaining this. I was concerned that I might've been called names by chance. To be honest, measurements (especially distance) is my Achilles heel. Even if I understand it on paper, I struggle to determine its application in real life. I could be walking passed one city block and think that's a kilometer worth of travel. But turns out that's way off. At the very least, I know kilometers can be viewed as going from city to city, so 173kph sounds quite impressive for the average speed of the thousand sunny.
That's just show of how good a navigator Nami really is lmao
1:54 If Ryokugyu was in Alabasta, his Woods-Woods Fruit would turn the desert country into a lush paradise of nature like he did to Wano when he was there.
That depends. Can he grow a rainforest in sand? Or would he have to adapt and grow more cactus or other desert plants?
not really since needs water or the plants die he would be weak there
@@basillah7650 unless he adapts and can grow cactus
He would be dominated by sir crocodile in alabasta 😂
@@basillah7650 So was the polluted land of Udon where Beast Pirates use their industry there. And yet Ryokugyu easily turn it into lush paradise just by walking there.
I can't believe some of these measurements. The mountains in Drum Island are supposed to be around 5km at their peak - If you took these mountains and placed them on their sides I would really doubt you'd need over 760 of them to reach coast to coast.
Same goes for Dressrosa. Am I supposed to believe that the key locations like the castle or Flower Hill is tens, if not hundreds of kilometres wide.
Totto Land makes sense due to it being an archipelago though
Do you guys remember doffy's speech, that the one who wins writes the story or something like that. Which means the joy boy actually won because he is the only one telling about the past through the poneglyphs
Every one of these videos about "the One Piece world is fucking massive!" are 1) Moronic, 2) Based on false information such as claiming that "Oh Alabasta is the size of Egypt at least because it's based on Egypt!" Then ignoring that the story has more than once stated it's only a couple days sailing between islands. Or that Oda stated in the SBS that from the start of Luffy's journey to the timeskip, which involves sailing halfway across the world, was only three months.
Seriously, how many lead paint chips did you eat as a child to hear "I can see this entire island" and "She can see up to 4,000km" and decide "That means the island is 4,000km across!"? I can carry 90lbs under one arm; does that mean everything I carry with one arm is 90lbs?
You misspelled "I hate one piece"
@JimmyHopkins-bw9jb Nope. One of the best series ever. I'm just tired of absolute morons trying to insist the planet is the size of the sun. It's like the idiots in the Bleach fandom who insist the Seireitei is several times the size of Japan
@MurasakiTsukimaru so how big is it? All yall can ever seem to do is call other peoples assessments stupid while not proving your own answer because you know it's a blatant fact this world is mf massive.
You pointed out one mistake he made and flipped shit. So tell me your method used and how big the planet is?
@JimmyHopkins-bw9jb It's the size of earth. Literally nothing ever indicated it wasn't. Notice how it only ever takes a few hours of walking to get anywhere in any island that isn't alabasta. And even Alabasta was traversed in only a couple days on foot. Heck, Doflamingo got from Dressrosa (which we blatantly see is just one city on a small island) to Punk Hazard in just a couple hours by Tarzan-ing off clouds. Or how it's considered noteworthy that they didn't reach Elbaf 2 days after leaving Egghead. Or that they sailed halfway around the world in only 3 months.
Yet yall mouthbreathers out here insisting these sailing ships are reaching hypersonic speeds from light breezes
@MurasakiTsukimaru lmaoooooo oh nah bro actually stupid asf. You goofies repeating "bUt tHey uSe boAts" negates literally nothing. Clown go read toriko they're planet is bigger than Uranus for a FACT and they walk everywhere as well.
Its over 20 million islands on this planet, and they would all fit into just one portion of the grand line. You're actually delusional claiming its earth sized.
The scaling of elbaf alone wipes its ass with this sentiment. You're coming off dumb trying to sound realistic
That also connects with the fact that people living substantially longer in that world
How?
@@Resolution001 its already stated that the avg age of people in one piece is 120-150 years
+ for your answer larger the planet slower the rotation larger the day
+ the planet is huge and has 7 stars (I don't remember correctly) so it would take a larger time for it to complete a revolution don't u think then that the people would live longer to adjust to their planet
Oh so the 1.5 months after the timeskip are longer than we think?
Right@@mandaraut969
@@mandaraut969if days and years are LONGER, why would people live MORE days and years…?
@@josiahbaumgartner7643maybe because one piece humans are biologically different than real humans I mean there’s been way too many cases in the series where characters are surviving attacks that aren’t even possible to survive, it could be because of their worlds power system of haki naturally running through them but comparing op to our world is outrageous they’re basically super humans/alians compared to us
4:45 no, 4000km range means anything within 4000km, it doesn’t mean at least, it means at most, it MUST be equal to or less than 4000km both long and wide
Keep watching.
@@GrandLineReviewmaybe I didn’t pay enough attention but I never saw this specific point addressed…
@@GrandLineReview🗿
@@ZRISH_ Man on the internet tries to meme away a math mistake.
@@GrandLineReview FREE PALESTINE FROM THE JEWS
Size doesn't matter in one piece, they keep changing. Like in empty throne room all gorosei monster form were able to fit comfortably and even imu too.
It's a pretty big throne room + they were likely in their hybrid forms during that scene
While "Ri" IS a real unit that was used in much of East Asian countries, the phrase "SenRi (1,000 Ri)" or even "WanRi (10,000 Ri)" was often used to simply mean "very far".
Senri-gan is never used to mean you can LITERALLY see 1,000 Ri, but that you can see very far.
Additionally, "Wanli Changcheng" is the Chinese name for "The Great Wall".
So to interpret the comment about the messenger arrows as traveling a "great distance" is pretty accurate.
Also, the measurement of "Ri/Li" isn't even consistent across generations and cultures.
The average Japanese Ri/Li is ~10x the length of the Chinese and Korean Ri/Li.
Last bit:
Ri/Li was also used to represent Area sometimes, not just Length. In this context, it would mean an "Area roughly that of a circle with a diameter of ____ Ri".
In the case of Viola's Senrigan, if you were to apply Sen Ri literally, it should be measured with Viola in the center, drawing a circle with a diameter of Sen Ri, putting Dressrosa at a maximum diameter of 500 Ri.
It is strange how the One Piece planet with a massive size like our fellow gas giant Jupiter, with potentially similar levels of crushing gravity, would permit such monstrous growing life forms. We would expect higher gravity to restrict the size compared to our Earth!
Even on earth we had creatures like the the dinosaurs.
Diplodocus, Brachiosaurus etc.
Maybe the One Piece world has a much richer atmosphere allowing for far larger life forms to exist.
@@AnshumanKantiBose That is true. The reason for dinos growing massive had nothing to do with gravity but everything to do with the warmer temperatures and abundance of food and life to eat and grow massive!
Another thing to think about, is how fast the ships have to move.
I mean, think about it outside of the timeskip they have done their journey in the course of months a lot of time is spent on islands
That means to get to some of these islands ships using only sails can traverse areas larger than the Atlantic ocean in the course of hours or days
4:50 No you're wrong. It's not at least 4k it's at most 4k unless she stated that she can't see beyond the island at any point in time, then it'd be exactly 4k, never more. You made a big mistake there friend.
I haven't watched this video yet but I always wanted the one piece world to be a moon of a super planet. This super planet is where the dark continent (hunter x hunter) resides (as well as Toriko's world). Part of the one piece is actually the revelation of this super planet, which connects different shonen anime to a Shonen Universe (Similar to the marvel universe).
This is probably the biggest reach of headcannon I’ve ever seen 💀
@@jjh2472 🤣 you’re not wrong lol
not only is this the biggest reach of a headcanon that ive ever seen, how would you explain the moon of the OP world?
If viola can see everything within a 4000km radius and she can see all of dressrosa then that means dressrosa is anywhere from 0km-4000km. She would be just as capable of seeing a 1km island as a 400 km island. just taking the biggest number possible is wildly disingenuous and bordering on lying.
Also "Senri" means a long distance. Just like how in english we might say something weighs a ton, that doesnt mean it weighs exactly 2000lb. its a common phrase. Thats why it was translated that way, because thats what it mean.
basically when telling story, and author don't want their character to become overpower, they choose to either enlarge the world around them or just make bad guy bigger, which is simple way to do and also to increase the obstacle for the characters
The issue with using island count and travel distance as a metric is that the world was once sunken under water.
It’s very reasonable that the rising global sea levels and Imu’s ancient weapon nuked several old continents into islands, creating many more. The rising seas might also contribute to a larger global surface area (I’m not a geologist, does it work that way…?)
In fact, real world earth officially contains over 600,000 islands. It’s fairly plausible that a sunken world blasted by a superweapon could have more
The sea level doesn't really affect the surface area of the planet. Getting rid of the oceans entirely would be like peeling the paint off of a bowling ball.
Geography is EVERYTHING!
Tekking loll
Geology and cartography is the Real One Piece
This has been my favourite GLR new video in a while.
Apparently the world is so big that we need 1000+ episodes just to scratch the surface of it
The problem with juggling these fictional numbers is that we sometimes see them being physically wrong. Dressrosa is essentially just a city. The gang travels all over the place in a day. It's not thousands of kilometers large. We see it in relation to Ruffy. You cann see the ocean when standing in the middle of the town. We see the ring of mountains surrounding the island, which would need to be taller than mount everest if Dressrosa was thag large (when they are only a few dozen times taller than the Sunny).
In any case, measuring manga panels with the goal of getting a consistent scale is a fool's errant, because that's not what they are drawn to be used for. They are not consistent, they are stylized, they have artistic intent. Measuring the thickness of a river on some depiction of Alabasta to calculate the islands width is the equivalent of measuring rocks in a cartoon to calculate how many kilotons worth of TNT a character's fist generate by blowing them up. It's completely arbitrary because the artist did not draw that image for you to do that.
I agree with you in terms of the utility of asking and answering that question. However the Senri is not arbitrary and not taken from different perspectives and lengths of a manga panel.
Also, with a planet that big, the apparent curvature would be a lot less, which means mountains don't have to be as high for them to be visible from afar and being on a mountain grants you more vision.
But yea, theres still no way for Dressrosa to be that big
Yeah, the point about Dressrosa was wrong, that's been pointed out. We only know it to be less than 1000里 since it was all visible.
But the other islands? I see no flaws in those measurements, and the final calculation wasn't done based on the size of Dressrosa.
Nothing beats the size of Toriko's world. The habitable space was just a small fraction of the world, the rest are hostile environment full of high levelled monsters and food materials.
The Hunter X Hunter world is also similarly massive, but less charted than Toriko's.
and there is world in Naruto, which seems to be smaller than Alabasta xd
@@cpt.flamer7184Alabasta is big but not as big as australia. And dressrosa is pretty small. Nothing close to Alabasta. Dressrosa will be around 100-150kms.
For the really messed-up world scales, you gotta look at cultivation/xianxia settings. Those authors will very happily write "oh yeah the tournament the MC's in has a quadrillion people in the stands because this tournament is very super duper mucho important" or that a character grows to hundreds of thousands of kilometers tall while indoors. Their sense of scale is nonexistent lmao
12:07 if the planet is a quarter the size of the sun can you figure out the mass and gravitational pull of the planet? It actually makes sense that people can punch through walls and have crazy strength given that they walk around in insane gravity every day. Also how do their ships not just sink immediately? Would buoyancy even work the same in crazy gravity or would ships just sink? Is their planet hollow so it doesn’t have crazy gravity. This opens up so many more questions
Nah physics are completely sitting this one out.
Even if we assume people are stronger because of gravity, materials too will have to be stronger. For example a brick will need to he a hundred times stronger to withstand the brick above it, or glass needs to be so much stronger for it not shatter upon itself.
A hollow planet also can't really work because of gravity, so long as there's a core, which planets need in order, and in one pieces case the core needs to be functional to support life then it can't be hollow as it's gravity will pull the crust in.
As for ships they will actually be fine, assuming the gravity in the one piece is indeed like 100x that of here, then both the water and the boat will weigh more by an equal amount, which results in the boat displacing its own weight in water all the same, which does result in it being buoyant all just like here.
if a planet was a quarter of the size of the sun it would not be liveable in any way, the extra weight would make for terrible seasonal storms, because a planet that large cannot form a rocky surface, it would attract too much gas in space turning it into a Jupiter like planet
but who cares its fictional pirate world
See video Magnetic levitation by rotation. You can negate gravity if you spin the planet faster. And The planet did rotate faster than Earth .
By the way, similar spinning can create gravity. It just depend on how you place the magnetic field.
So various magnetic field can create different gravity, weather in different zone.
That can be derived from the size only if we know the density...
Oda is notoriously bad at scaling things. If almost every Island is as big as Australia then why can they travel half the world in a few weeks with a sailing boat? The planets size is not defined and will be als big as it hast to be. It might be a bit bigger than earth but there is no sense in scaling it.
there is also a guy who is made of light, but walks at normal speeds soooo I don't think we can rely on how fast a normal ship would move here on earth to calculate distance
If planet one piece circumference is *1,000,000 km*, it volume would be approximately *15,605* time larger than earth volume which is bizzarre for me because back than I used to think one piece world is 2-3 time larger than earth
4:49? what, no! it just means that dressrosa must be SMALLER than that. it could be 1km wide and it would still work. and you can clearly see from the diorama that it's probably around .. 4km wide.
Your math ain‘t mathing man on the Internet, but it still was a fun video. 😂
That Dressrosa example doesn’t make sense, unless GLR misspoke, as if Viola can only see 4000km and she can see the whole island, it means the island is at best 4000km, but it could be any amount smaller than that
Hate to be that guy but this is exactly why I laugh at any one piece power scaling debate. They never take the absolute scale of the one piece world into account.
Even something like gravity on the one piece planet has to be like 100x that of earth. By using dragon ball z logic everyone born in the one piece planet was born with the ability to withstand 100x gravity making ur average one piece citizen stronger than ur average citizen from like naruto or smth
I don't know the math, so take this with a grain of salt, but it's probably even more extreme than that. In Dragon Ball Z, the Saiyan homeworld had 10x Earth's gravity. But if that wasn't enough, the training Goku did in his spaceship on his way to Planet Namek that skyrocketed his power level over Vegeta and even higher than the Ginyu Force was at 100x gravity. So if you calculate how much higher gravity the One Piece has over Earth, it would mean an average human in One Piece is physically stronger than even Saiyan Elites like Nappa or Vegeta, and possibly could compare to the Ginyu Force.
Only if you apply real world physcis, which really doesn't have a place in powerscaling since stories are never made with such random ideas in mind.
Its almost like powerscaling is something that only meant to be taken seriously withing their own series and trying to compare with different series is something the mangaka never took account and we shouldnt either.
@@SUPERVEGETTO92 exactly 💯💯
@@dkznikolaj7013 I mean if people use that to scale dbz characters and say well this dbz character is stronger than X or well goku is stronger than your favorite mc bc they couldn’t even take 10x gravity then it’s absolutely fair to flip it back onto them when it comes to debating one piece. I agree that real world physics shouldn’t matter in a series discussion period but powerscalers literally count pixels to prove a point I genuinely don’t think that pointing out the scale of the one piece world is an invalid point.
Gravity is gonna be insane with this one 😬💯🔥🔥🔥
4:43 No?? Viola can see a maximum of 4000 Kilometres, so to see the entire island Dressrosa must be at MOST 4000 KMs in diameter, not at least. That's just blatantly wrong.
There is no way OP world is 10 times bigger. Crew sailed across half the planet within 6 months and all with their fights and stays in islands.
Either Oda doesn't know how to measure things or this planet is only slightly larger than earth.
4:48 you mean at most, right ?
Like dressrosa could have a circumference of just 50km and viola statements would still be true , and I really don't think dressrosa is anywhere as big as 400km wide , it's clearly just one contiguous city. Just imagine one densily packed metropolis the size of Australia lol .
Also, if it's really 400km, how large does that make pica??? Like , I know Zoro's strong, but just "I can cut up a monster the size of a city" strong, not "I can cut a monster the size of a country " strong . Like, Enel would be able to see a monster spawning into existence from where he is at the moon .
Yeah, he said some bs there.
bro thinks he got him, and instead called himself an idiot
@@emilyandnugget2058 huh?
The message arrows were obvious sent out from the Flower Capital, which means Wano is likely more like 10,000kms wide, but keep in mind it is also just a small part of the real Wano, most of which is currently underwater.
Assuming that the mass is relative to Earth, the more impressive fact is that the force of gravity is 2.7 times higher so 26.85 m/s². Everyone's got to be denser and better built on this planet
Except this is a fictional world, and Oda's law of universal gravitation says: you can reach the moon with an air balloon. Also featuring: islands above the clouds.
“I live in Australia and I don’t want to be destroyed”😂
Liam is probably not a fan of the mecha genre then. Gundam started the trend of turning Sydney into a crater and it's since become a staple.
@@terencetsang9518 I appreciate consistency 👌🏻
Why is saturn in the thumbnail imu killed him
That’s just his corpse
that's his ball
Noone really dies as long as he isn‘t forgotten
@@marekmintajpl then where is the other one
@@Eternaltus that was just his human form, otherwise he was always a planet. and IMU is a blackhole.
Considering how it took less than a year for the Straw Hats to travel almost the entire Grand Line (not counting the 2 years because they weren't traveling during that time), I would say it's quite small ... Or more likely it's just that Oda isn't really good at keeping track of the time passing in the story
a year would be longer in a bigger world
@@murilofreire4569 No? Not at all. Seasonal years are determined by the planets orbit and tilt which has nothing to do with it's size. Day/Night cycles are determined by the rate of rotation of the planet... which again is independent of the actual size of the world.
@@PlagueSpreader64 but wouldnt it's size in regards to the size of the sun affect the day's leight?
@@murilofreire4569 Not necessarily, a planet's day length depends more on its rotation speed than its size. For example, Jupiter is much larger than Earth but has a much shorter day (~10 hours per rotation).
In truth, there's only two explains (the ones I've mentioned), and the more likely one I do think it's just that Oda doesn't really take travel time into consideration much. But it's just funny to think that if he did calculate the time accurately, it would mean that the One Piece world is really small
@@sora2541 I see. I agree that Oda doesnt take this into account. But, at least in my headcannon I believe the world has longer day lenghts. It Just feels right, considering how fast the story progresses in such short time
If the world is that big, the gravity must be insane there. Everyone must weight tens or even hundreds of tons. We would be crushed by the weight of our body if we ever got hit by Truck-kun and sent to the world of One Piece.
Didn't the Straw hats spend about 3 months in Paradise? That's half the circumference of the planet and they weren't sailing non-stop.
Age of sail boats took 3 years to sail the circumference of the world. A modern sail boat/yacht the size of the Thousand Sunny could do it in 90 days. The current record is 40 days.
The world of One Piece doesn't seem that crazy large in comparison.
this breaks the plot more than explaining things lol... they seemingly go days between islands. when it would be months or years everytime. unless every important island is one tiny area
peop[e forget the log poses exist, they give you the fastest trip to the next island lmfao, its like shortcuts
@@kashuwullguy2334 what. if the world that big, it ain't matter if it a direct straight shot, thats the point.
@@kashuwullguy2334nope that doesn't change anything. Or time is much longer or one piece ships are faster than jets
Grand line has odd currents and weather
Maybe one day is longer there than here?
So the people from the edges of Dressrosa ran about 3900 kilometers in mere minutes on foot into the middle of the "Continent" when Doffy closed his spiderweb ?
I actually never thought of how big the One Piece really is, thanks Liam. Also Chopper bonking Oda over the head with a stick was hilarious.🤣
using kilometers is like saying the Earth is flat when people learned in the future that it is round
Prolonged my OP journey for long enough and I’m now at Punk Hazard. Just wanted to say I appreciate the content, I enjoy the think tanks on what is to come and breakdowns of info I want more of. Being legally blind the dubbed is how I consume the content, so I appreciate your references to the manga sections that differ or add cool little tidbits of info! Lastly, you got the voice for it! Lmao love the calm nature of your voice as you explain topic to topic. Keep up the great work!
Plot Twist: One Piece world is actually *SUPER EARTH!*
That game is dead
@@nmr7203it went from 40k to 90k after update
So we can go to one piece soon
For SUPER EARTTTHHHHHHHH!!!
And No HD2 it’s not dead. Over 100K players online just ysrdy
@@nmr7203 it was dying until recently, the new update is pretty good from what I heard, I plan on playing it again soon.
this just adds more proof to the theory that everyone in one piece is just really small, and the giants and sea kings are actual normal sized humans and fish.
No?
This makes the fact that so much can happen in a single day in OP make so much more sense honestly. Assuming their sun is also much larger than ours, either the OP world is traveling it's orbit much faster than earth or days and years are much much longer there than on earth.
The factor that pulverizes all the information here is the time factor. Luffy sailed from one side of the Redline to the other in less than a year. The year is not only reduced by the time in the East Blue, but also by each island stay; whenever you are on an island, you cannot sail at the same time. Plus Luffy and his crew don't usually sail at night, only when it is necessary.
Nothing against you personally, but it is clear that you are a statement scaler and not a feat scaler.
"How tall are you ?"
"I'm 1,08 luffys tall"
What I need is sleep
Simple answer: Oda put no effort into calculating feasible measurements into the story ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Oda has no sense of scale... but the fact the islands do seem to come out pretty consistently is suss.
The only problem with this, is that the travel speed of the boats, which are wind powered, are not fast enough to cover those distances in the time we are given. For a reference with similar ships in our world it took roughly 8 months of journey to travel about 10.000KM, although that did include stops to resupply. (17th centurary ships)
The scene of sanji kicking football around the world of one piece is really jawdropping now.. (even though its non canon)
those ships gotta be fricken fast
Oda has never been consistent when it comes to scale, but still, speculative videos like this where we try to accurately measure things out are always fun to talk about.
...Without the use of generative AI, thank you very much Liam.
30 miles wide is like the Amazon river in rainy season.
Oden's swords changes it's size according to it's user's haki
It is also stated that oden's swords could also be wielded by momonosuke and hiyori
So Nami has to draw over 20 million islands for her dream to come true? That might take longer than tashigi's dream..
with one hour of work per Map of an island, that would bei more then 2000 Years? So now we know, who is going to get a special operation by Trafalgar Law? :D
The only problem with this is that the strawhats traveled half of the world in a few months while stopping at a few islands…
Tbf Grandline has some crazy strong winds and ocean currents
@@user-a_ce.1238 wouldn’t that be another reason why it would take much longer from red line to red line? Yeah maybe sometimes the currents will speed them up but a lot of time the strong currents will make difficult to sail
This further supports my theory that the giants of One Piece are actually normal human size, and everyone else is just really small.
Really puts the One Piece world into perspective, a super earth probably with a heavy gravity well LOL. Cheers Laim, for been a Mega One Piece fan and providing research and probable things about this amazing I.P.
See, that's really neat. But suddenly every single boat needs to be going at Mach speeds which is problematic to say the least.
Lots of people pointing out that the Dressrosa math is wrong but the Wano math is wrong as well, since the distance traveled by the arrows does not have to be in a straight line, rather just "spreading the message all over the country".
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It is my belief that the One Piece planet is huge for the same reason the Pikmin planet is huge. Or rather that it isn't, and everyone and everything is tiny.