Good video, very helpful. I hope your channel keeps growing. Just one advice, don't use that blur effect for the background it's not necessary and looks a little amateur, if you want a blurry background you can open your camera's diaphragm.
For some reason, when using Chrome on my MBA M1, it uses way less RAM compared to Safari. Google Docs show a bit of lag when using Safari whereas on Chrome, it's all smooth.
Yes, everything. I'm also looking at the amount of Swap used and it's far lesser when I'm using Chrome. It's really weird since Safari is supposed to be "optimized for MacOS"@@CScott4k
@@CScott4k I did read somewhere that Google Doc and everything related the Google Suite is programmed to run better and more efficient on Chrome, so maybe that's it.
Yeah safari will take more ram on normal usage. Because normally you have video playing tabs. Safari sucks at that. Like if you play 30-40 minutes 4k video continuously on youtube or any other site safari will take almost 3gb memory for that tab only. People think that safari is magic. But it sucks on real world usage.
Thanks. It’s the midnight! And yes, unfortunately the fingerprints are as bad as they say. The skin is the Dbrand skin ‘triple black’. dbrand.com/shop/apple-macbook-air-13.6-skins-2022-m2
Bro I have tried multiple browsers on my windows laptop for a lotta years !! Final verdict there's no place like Chrome uncontested unparalleled performance ❤
Like it feels really dumb. Apple fan boys think safari is jusy magic and usr no ram. That's really not the case. Safari use different process for each tab you open. So if you look closely on your activity monitor there is process for each website you opened on safari. And if you add all those rams up you will wil it uses almost same ram as chrome/other browsers. And also safari can use much more than chrome if you play videos. Try this. Play some videos on different tabs. After playing the videos 10-20 minutes check the ram usage of the tab it would be GBs which is a lot more than most other browsers. Besides chromium browsers are much more snappier if you are switching between many tabs constantly. Don't be a fan boy. Benchmarks rather than believing something you saw on Internet.
Thanks for sharing. And also peaking my interest. I ran the test you described above with the same 4k videos. ( 3 tabs/3 videos each) After 20 mins, 1.4 GB for Safari & 1.2 for Chrome. (With all the different tasks for each added up in Activity Monitor). Although not so big of a difference, I’m not sure this would constitute as a ‘real world usage’ as you described in your other comment. I believe this the first time I’ve ever had multiple streams playing at once. For anyone interested, this was also done a M3 MBP. Again, thanks bringing this up. If I ever make a similar video, I’ll be sure to include it!
@@CScott4k That's what my point was. The RAM usage difference between Safari and Chrome most of the time is negligible when it's not it's not negligible it's Safari that takes much more RAM. You mentioned real-world usage. Yeah, that's what most people's usage looks like. Most people won't play multiple videos at the same time, that's correct but most people will have some video-playing tabs opened that were played for a while and paused but the tab is still there, then also safari will consume this much ram. The RAM usage difference you got is very different from mine. Safari takes a lot more RAM while playing video than arc/edge/chrome. The RAM usage just keeps increasing as go forward in the video. But in most other browsers RAM usage is really constant and doesn't change much unless you change resolution. Once I was doing a recorded video class of my college on my M1 base model. After like two hours of continuous video streaming the RAM usage increased so much that it became noticeably slower and when I checked the activity monitor safari was taking like 7 gigs of RAM. So there was a lot of swap usage. But I never had these issues on other browsers. No matter how much time I stream the RAM usage doesn't increase much. Safari has major flaws when it comes to modern web technology. Many websites just don't properly on safari. If you really want to have a smooth experience in browsing safari is not the right choice. But yeah when it comes to battery safari does better than most browsers. But the difference is not as significant as most people think. I'm not a fan of Chrome. Actually, I don't even use chrome. I'm currently using Arc which suits perfectly for my work as I'm a student and do a lot of stuff regarding web development. The thing that pisses me most is that people think Safari is a magical tool and uses no resources from their computers. Edit: On the current Safari version the problem of the ram increasing infinitely doesn't seem to happen. After a point, the RAM usage doesn't change on Safari either. Still, it is using a lot more RAM than it should.
If I understand the question correctly, you’re wondering if my opinion between the two browsers would be the same for MacOS High Sierra? I would think it would be very similar as although you can upgrade the operating system, you should still be able to upgrade safari and chrome to newer versions.
@@CScott4k Thanks for replying. I'll try to explain: My iMac (27-inch, Mid 2011) SATA Drive crashed two years ago. The technician installed a new 1TB drive, but he told me that its OS was upgraded up to year 2015, and that's the highest my iMac could go. When I go to the App Store, it indicates that there is no update available. In this case, is there anything I can do to keep it safer while using the Internet with Safari; or should I use Chrome instead? Thank you so much.
@@arecme23 Got ya. iI your unable to get regular updates for Safari but you can with chrome, I would go with chrome. The majority of the updates are security patches and it’s better to be safe!
Or why not firefox. I think it would be the better option especially from a data security point. Firefox really cares about data security and doesn’t collect user data. Google on the other hand …
I studied design and while I barely used safari on my university which is the only place I've tried macs, you mac people better keep using safari or firefox. Chrome is the devil and it's practically a monopoly to impose web standards
Also if safari has better battery life and even better benchmark results it should be a no brainier. I knew safaris JS engine was faster, is what bun uses. Not sure if that benchmark didn't show as much difference since the drawing engine might be slower and even out the results of responsiveness.
is it me or Safari eats up more ram and frequently warn me for significant energy consumption , but after installing chrome it is fine......it doesnt uses much battery or power....also i use Dashlane and Grammarly as extension but Safari uses separate apps but chrome extensions are intergrated hence uses less ram and power......
What Mac are you using? It’s always been the opposite for me, with Chrome consuming more Ram and Power. Although, I haven’t used chrome much since making this video. Now that I’m on M3 it might be worth making another video and doing a deeper analysis.
I use a macbook air m2 and I have a similar situation. Safari is literally eating up my RAM. I open similar jobs in Chrome, Safari uses much more RAM. However, both of them do not cause any problems in terms of energy. I've been trying to get used to Safari for about 2 months, but for some reason I can't help but ask myself whether Chrome is better. Do you think Chrome is in a better position for MacOS after M2 compatibility? @@CScott4k
Man your review is goddamn biased !! You're an apple fan , you need to skip all those privacy jargons because apple may prevent tracking by third party websites or apps but what about apple itself?? Have you ever thought about this ? Apple's reputation as a privacy respecting company is just a facade !!
I can’t be a fan of both? I used chrome exclusively for 12 years before I ever started using safari and still use it to this day for certain tasks. I’m glad you have a differing opinion, nor will I attack you for having one. Have a good day!
Compatibility? Safari? Wth u talking about? Only when we are already in ecosystem? That's automatically means bad compatibility. Do u really know what compatibility means when u say safari compatibility is better than chrome?
Safari is a piece of turd. It's infuriating every time I want to go on any normal website and it pops up with a page that can't be displayed for NO apparent reason! Just standard pages as well, nothing even dodgy! There are only so many times I can handle that happening before I lose my shit! Back to Google Chrome for me!
@@myf51 Probably all that dont work with cross-site scripting enabled. Kids those days dont care about complete dossier of them collected by every moms n pops out there. One day he will know how to turn it off and everything will be ok
Well there are very few pages safari has problems with. Had experienced that myself but its rare. For these pages then firefox. No reason to feed google even more data.
Good video, very helpful. I hope your channel keeps growing. Just one advice, don't use that blur effect for the background it's not necessary and looks a little amateur, if you want a blurry background you can open your camera's diaphragm.
Thanks. I appreciate the kind words. Will definitely keep that in mind moving forward!
*camera aperture
For some reason, when using Chrome on my MBA M1, it uses way less RAM compared to Safari. Google Docs show a bit of lag when using Safari whereas on Chrome, it's all smooth.
When your looking at it in your activity monitor, are you adding up all the different Chrome tasks like the Chrome Render Helper & the GPU Helper?
Yes, everything. I'm also looking at the amount of Swap used and it's far lesser when I'm using Chrome. It's really weird since Safari is supposed to be "optimized for MacOS"@@CScott4k
@@CScott4k I did read somewhere that Google Doc and everything related the Google Suite is programmed to run better and more efficient on Chrome, so maybe that's it.
Yeah safari will take more ram on normal usage. Because normally you have video playing tabs. Safari sucks at that. Like if you play 30-40 minutes 4k video continuously on youtube or any other site safari will take almost 3gb memory for that tab only. People think that safari is magic. But it sucks on real world usage.
i personally dont like the ui of safari, also need to use a chromium browser for extension that i use. also chrome works for most websites
Safari’s UI is definitely an acquired taste.
The only thing I miss from safari is the reader mode, others it can’t even compete with chrome.
Reader mode is nice 👌🏼
I’ll just use safari for the simple fact that chrome just eats up your unified memory and can slow things down.
Tons of memory! And it seems like it drains the battery quicker as well!
What skin is on that M2 Macbook? The colour is amazing btw. Are the fingerprints as bad as they claim?
Thanks. It’s the midnight! And yes, unfortunately the fingerprints are as bad as they say. The skin is the Dbrand skin ‘triple black’.
dbrand.com/shop/apple-macbook-air-13.6-skins-2022-m2
Would you get this colour again if you were to face the same decision today? Thank you for putting out great content btw@@CScott4k
@@darrenccw truthfully… if I were buying a new MacBook today, I wouldn’t. I would probably go with the Gray.
@@darrenccw and thanks for the compliment 🙏🏼
It's a pity as Midnight is such a gorgeous colour, I might think twice about it now and opt for the other colours @@CScott4k
Bro I have tried multiple browsers on my windows laptop for a lotta years !! Final verdict there's no place like Chrome uncontested unparalleled performance ❤
Thanks for sharing
honestly chrome is work and safari is about the life
Great video!
Thank you!
Like it feels really dumb. Apple fan boys think safari is jusy magic and usr no ram. That's really not the case. Safari use different process for each tab you open. So if you look closely on your activity monitor there is process for each website you opened on safari. And if you add all those rams up you will wil it uses almost same ram as chrome/other browsers. And also safari can use much more than chrome if you play videos. Try this. Play some videos on different tabs. After playing the videos 10-20 minutes check the ram usage of the tab it would be GBs which is a lot more than most other browsers.
Besides chromium browsers are much more snappier if you are switching between many tabs constantly.
Don't be a fan boy. Benchmarks rather than believing something you saw on Internet.
Thanks for sharing. And also peaking my interest. I ran the test you described above with the same 4k videos. ( 3 tabs/3 videos each) After 20 mins, 1.4 GB for Safari & 1.2 for Chrome. (With all the different tasks for each added up in Activity Monitor). Although not so big of a difference, I’m not sure this would constitute as a ‘real world usage’ as you described in your other comment. I believe this the first time I’ve ever had multiple streams playing at once. For anyone interested, this was also done a M3 MBP. Again, thanks bringing this up. If I ever make a similar video, I’ll be sure to include it!
@@CScott4k That's what my point was. The RAM usage difference between Safari and Chrome most of the time is negligible when it's not it's not negligible it's Safari that takes much more RAM. You mentioned real-world usage. Yeah, that's what most people's usage looks like. Most people won't play multiple videos at the same time, that's correct but most people will have some video-playing tabs opened that were played for a while and paused but the tab is still there, then also safari will consume this much ram. The RAM usage difference you got is very different from mine. Safari takes a lot more RAM while playing video than arc/edge/chrome. The RAM usage just keeps increasing as go forward in the video. But in most other browsers RAM usage is really constant and doesn't change much unless you change resolution. Once I was doing a recorded video class of my college on my M1 base model. After like two hours of continuous video streaming the RAM usage increased so much that it became noticeably slower and when I checked the activity monitor safari was taking like 7 gigs of RAM. So there was a lot of swap usage. But I never had these issues on other browsers. No matter how much time I stream the RAM usage doesn't increase much.
Safari has major flaws when it comes to modern web technology. Many websites just don't properly on safari. If you really want to have a smooth experience in browsing safari is not the right choice.
But yeah when it comes to battery safari does better than most browsers. But the difference is not as significant as most people think.
I'm not a fan of Chrome. Actually, I don't even use chrome. I'm currently using Arc which suits perfectly for my work as I'm a student and do a lot of stuff regarding web development. The thing that pisses me most is that people think Safari is a magical tool and uses no resources from their computers.
Edit: On the current Safari version the problem of the ram increasing infinitely doesn't seem to happen. After a point, the RAM usage doesn't change on Safari either. Still, it is using a lot more RAM than it should.
What if I have a Mac with High Sierra OS that can't be upgraded?
If I understand the question correctly, you’re wondering if my opinion between the two browsers would be the same for MacOS High Sierra? I would think it would be very similar as although you can upgrade the operating system, you should still be able to upgrade safari and chrome to newer versions.
@@CScott4k Thanks for replying. I'll try to explain: My iMac (27-inch, Mid 2011) SATA Drive crashed two years ago. The technician installed a new 1TB drive, but he told me that its OS was upgraded up to year 2015, and that's the highest my iMac could go. When I go to the App Store, it indicates that there is no update available. In this case, is there anything I can do to keep it safer while using the Internet with Safari; or should I use Chrome instead? Thank you so much.
@@arecme23 Got ya. iI your unable to get regular updates for Safari but you can with chrome, I would go with chrome. The majority of the updates are security patches and it’s better to be safe!
@@CScott4k Perfect! I very much appreciate your time and patience. God bless!
Or why not firefox. I think it would be the better option especially from a data security point. Firefox really cares about data security and doesn’t collect user data. Google on the other hand …
I studied design and while I barely used safari on my university which is the only place I've tried macs, you mac people better keep using safari or firefox. Chrome is the devil and it's practically a monopoly to impose web standards
Also if safari has better battery life and even better benchmark results it should be a no brainier. I knew safaris JS engine was faster, is what bun uses. Not sure if that benchmark didn't show as much difference since the drawing engine might be slower and even out the results of responsiveness.
is it me or Safari eats up more ram and frequently warn me for significant energy consumption , but after installing chrome it is fine......it doesnt uses much battery or power....also i use Dashlane and Grammarly as extension but Safari uses separate apps but chrome extensions are intergrated hence uses less ram and power......
What Mac are you using? It’s always been the opposite for me, with Chrome consuming more Ram and Power. Although, I haven’t used chrome much since making this video. Now that I’m on M3 it might be worth making another video and doing a deeper analysis.
I use a macbook air m2 and I have a similar situation. Safari is literally eating up my RAM. I open similar jobs in Chrome, Safari uses much more RAM. However, both of them do not cause any problems in terms of energy. I've been trying to get used to Safari for about 2 months, but for some reason I can't help but ask myself whether Chrome is better. Do you think Chrome is in a better position for MacOS after M2 compatibility?
@@CScott4k
Good video
Thank you! 🙏🏼
You might want to put some more effort in the way that you pronounce effortlessly 😅
😅
Safari is a slow garbage with no good extensions, this browser is a total joke, and tabs are not ergonomic at all
Man your review is goddamn biased !! You're an apple fan , you need to skip all those privacy jargons because apple may prevent tracking by third party websites or apps but what about apple itself?? Have you ever thought about this ? Apple's reputation as a privacy respecting company is just a facade !!
I can’t be a fan of both? I used chrome exclusively for 12 years before I ever started using safari and still use it to this day for certain tasks. I’m glad you have a differing opinion, nor will I attack you for having one. Have a good day!
Compatibility? Safari? Wth u talking about? Only when we are already in ecosystem? That's automatically means bad compatibility. Do u really know what compatibility means when u say safari compatibility is better than chrome?
Go back & listen again 👍🏼
Safari is a piece of turd. It's infuriating every time I want to go on any normal website and it pops up with a page that can't be displayed for NO apparent reason! Just standard pages as well, nothing even dodgy! There are only so many times I can handle that happening before I lose my shit! Back to Google Chrome for me!
That’s unfortunate. Can’t say I’ve ever experienced that.
can you tell me what are the websites that doesn't display ?
@@myf51 tbh there were so many, and I forgot which ones they were other than hip Hop Golden Age. I am now using Brave and I find it much easier!
@@myf51 Probably all that dont work with cross-site scripting enabled. Kids those days dont care about complete dossier of them collected by every moms n pops out there. One day he will know how to turn it off and everything will be ok
Well there are very few pages safari has problems with. Had experienced that myself but its rare. For these pages then firefox. No reason to feed google even more data.
Safari totally suck, don't even bother guys, just use Brave and/or Firefox.